0:00

They are trying to impeach Biden . Okay

0:02

, first of all , why did

0:04

it take four years ? Just personal opinion

0:06

. Second of all , it seems a

0:08

whole lot like what they tried

0:10

to do to Trump right before he got out of office

0:13

.

0:14

Faith and failures podcast

0:17

.

0:18

Very good stuff . So what do y'all think about the upcoming

0:21

election ? Leave a comment below about what you

0:23

think . Do you think now , some of

0:25

you , you can go down a rabbit hole pretty

0:27

quick . Some of you probably think that 2020

0:29

was stolen . Anybody , anybody

0:32

, brave enough ? There's so many things surrounding

0:34

this and that's the thing . Like people

0:36

in power like to

0:38

keep things confused so that

0:41

us peasants

0:43

can't really figure it out and

0:45

we don't know what's going on . For instance , like there

0:47

should not be a

0:50

person who can be in power , whether

0:52

whatever the government job is that

0:55

has power . There should be

0:57

term limits to make

0:59

sure that power does not stay

1:01

in one person . I mean , even in

1:03

the church the nomination I'm a part of we

1:06

have governing things

1:08

, policies in place to where not

1:11

just one person can stay in

1:13

the position

1:15

of a board member or a deacon for

1:18

that very reason . Like you have your terms , I

1:21

believe they may can get voted back in or they

1:23

may . I think they can't stay , they

1:25

can't do a consecutive turn back to back

1:28

. I mean smaller churches . You know you got who you got , but

1:30

those policies are in place for

1:32

us peasants down here so

1:34

that one person doesn't stay

1:36

and get because man wants

1:38

to have power , man wants

1:41

to have control . That's just the way we're

1:43

wired Like . We want to make ourselves

1:46

like God . That

1:48

was the very beginning . Adam and Eve , that

1:50

was how it all started . That's how the fall

1:52

happened . Was we wanted to

1:55

be like God ? That

1:57

was the temptation put before Adam and Eve , and

1:59

it happened . So I thought that was

2:01

a funny video . So go give

2:03

them a sub . Now let's

2:05

move on to talking

2:07

about Trump . Now you don't

2:10

have to comment below , but

2:12

a lot of people , according to

2:14

stats and his approval rating and things

2:16

like that , trump is still , even

2:18

though they have tried to . And , by the way , hold on . Let

2:20

me back up . So I have

2:22

seen in the last week this

2:24

is when I saw it . It may not have just happened

2:27

, but they are trying to impeach

2:29

Biden . Okay , first

2:31

of all , why did it take four years

2:33

? Just personal opinion . Second

2:35

of all , it seems a whole lot

2:37

like what they tried to do to Trump

2:39

right before he got out of office . So

2:42

I mean , it's kind of calling the

2:44

kettle black a little bit , but I digress

2:46

. So , with that being said

2:48

, I found a cool little video . Now , this guy we've

2:51

I've had him here on the show before his

2:53

videos where he talks about a lot of cool different

2:55

things . He's very . His videos

2:57

grab your attention , so I wanted to look at this

2:59

video . His channel is

3:01

what Do you Mean ? I'll show you up on

3:03

the screen just in a second . But the

3:06

reason I wanted to do something about Trump and I'm not

3:08

going into a deep dive into his life and

3:10

personal , I'm not going to go

3:12

detective on his stuff but

3:15

what I want us to be careful for and

3:17

why I thought this video would be so important and why

3:19

this topic would be be important for

3:21

us as Christians . Somebody asked

3:23

me the other day what do you think about Trump ? I've

3:25

actually got that request , or that question

3:28

, a lot , and so here's my thoughts . He

3:30

is not the second coming , okay , one

3:32

of the and there's kind of like

3:34

this I don't know how to describe it except

3:37

like a fog in the air where

3:39

you either love him or

3:41

you're against America , like

3:43

by . Granted , that's probably

3:45

a part of his tactic . It's genius

3:47

. I'm not saying that he's stupid for doing that

3:49

. It's working . But what I'm saying is

3:51

like , really , out of

3:53

all the people that live in America and

3:55

our citizens , that's the only guy you can come

3:57

up with . Now there's a guy actually

4:00

we're on a live stream . Let's just I'll look him

4:02

up right quick on my little Googles . It

4:05

sounds racist , but I don't know what his name is . Any

4:08

guy running for president ? There

4:11

we go . Vivek Ramaswamy

4:14

Is that ?

4:15

and that is why oh yeah , here we go , and

4:17

that is why , today , I am announcing

4:19

my run Hold on .

4:20

Let's back up and watch this dude

4:22

, why not ? Yeah , Vivek

4:25

, there we go . Yeah , I just found let's

4:27

watch this video . And the reason I want to watch this

4:29

video and what kind of like spaghetti

4:32

in it a little bit is because we're

4:34

going to watch some stuff on Trump . Somebody said to me

4:37

what do you think about Trump ? I said well

4:39

, he's out the second coming . I'm not even 100%

4:41

sure if he is a Christian

4:43

. No , why do I say that ? And then , listen

4:45

, I'm not one to judge somebody else unless there's

4:48

like outright evidence or a lifestyle

4:50

, because the Bible says you will know them by their fruit

4:52

. But what I'm saying is like

4:54

I'm just not . I'm not seeing what other people

4:56

are seeing that are so for him . Now

4:58

, do I think he shook up the government ? I

5:01

think that's why they have been trying to get him so

5:03

much , because whether you have Democrats

5:05

, the liberals , then you have a progressive or

5:07

not the progressive , the center , that's

5:10

like kind of libertarian or whatever . Then you

5:12

have the conservative or it's more

5:14

, you know , republican

5:16

, and then there's this constant fight

5:18

back and forth . But I think that

5:20

there's so much dirt that people have done

5:23

to get things passed that everybody's

5:25

dirty , if that makes sense . So

5:28

we try to pinpoint and try to say , oh , it's

5:30

the Democrats . Or , if you're on the Democrat

5:32

side , oh it's the Republicans . I

5:34

think everybody's boo boo stinks

5:36

and they're scared because

5:38

Trump had how do I say this

5:40

without cursing ? I guess I'll say

5:42

the letter and please don't be offended by

5:44

this . But he had F you money

5:46

, if you know what that means . Like Joe

5:49

Rogan , I've heard , has the same thing . Like

5:51

he doesn't care if he offends you or

5:53

takes you off or makes you upset , because

5:55

he can just say and

5:58

does it affect him ? He could put $100

6:01

million on the table and it wouldn't affect him and

6:03

burn it right in front of everybody and it

6:05

would not . Yeah , exactly

6:07

, cassie said both sides are corrupt , absolutely

6:10

, that's . That's the point I'm getting at . Like we

6:12

we oftentimes try to say Democrat

6:15

or Republican , but this

6:17

guy I can't

6:19

really figure him out , but I like him

6:21

. Like I have never seen

6:23

a candidate . Like I've even watched this guy

6:25

debate and I've never seen a candidate

6:27

debate before , or

6:30

the way he holds himself and talks . This

6:32

guy , like I usually

6:34

don't say who I'm gonna vote for , but I would probably

6:36

if I was to put it out there . I'd probably vote

6:38

for this guy over Trump and let's watch

6:40

his debates Like we'll watch it together . But watch

6:42

his debates and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about . He's

6:44

very honest , but he has

6:47

what Trump does not have . He has , like , charisma

6:49

. Trump has more of a like a

6:51

rhino style , like whatever , I'm gonna

6:53

power through it and you're just gonna have to deal with it

6:55

. You're fired Like . He's got that kind of attitude

6:57

about him which a lot of people like , especially people

6:59

down south . They want rough , they want rough . They want

7:01

somebody who's gonna walk in and take the bull by the

7:03

horns . But this guy's like a little . He

7:06

looks like a little pencil pusher but he

7:08

has a roar about him Like

7:10

it's crazy . Let's watch .

7:11

This is like his little ad thing and that is why

7:13

today I am announcing my run

7:16

for president of the United

7:18

States . She'll get paid for this . She was

7:20

president as a Republican . Thank you , I

7:22

appreciate that . Thank you who actually

7:24

understands that those civil service protections

7:27

protect individuals but they do not protect entire

7:29

divisions , that we forgot all

7:31

of the ways we are really just the same

7:34

as Americans , bound by a

7:36

common set of ideals that set

7:38

this nation into motion in 1776

7:40

.

7:41

Like I'm not doing this as an ad

7:43

for him . I just I wanted y'all to see somebody

7:45

out there may not know who he is . I just wanted to show you what all this fight

7:47

is about .

7:49

And 11 , so right , so and 10 .

7:51

See he's anti woke stuff , like he doesn't play

7:53

that game , like he's not doing the whole , like

7:55

your feelings are hurt , let's patch

7:58

you on the back and let's make you a victim , and then

8:00

let me give you money For

8:02

me , for me , for me . If

8:06

you don't know what woke ism ? Woke ism is the

8:08

promotion of liberal progressive ideology

8:10

and policy , is an expression of sensitivity

8:13

to systematic injustice , of

8:15

systemic excuse me , not systematic systemic injustice

8:17

and prejudice , which is a load of crap

8:20

.

8:20

Yeah , and the way I'll define it in neutral terms

8:22

is it's a worldview that says that there

8:24

are those who are oppressors

8:26

and those who are oppressed in the world

8:28

, generally based on genetically

8:31

inherited attributes , and then

8:33

you mix in a belief about the existential

8:35

calamity posed by climate change . That's

8:38

basically , in short form , what it means

8:40

to be woke . Now I think that , agree or not

8:42

, that's a facially

8:44

neutral definition .

8:46

So anyways , he's a . In

8:49

my personal opinion , he's a very good candidate to

8:51

at least look at . You know what I

8:53

mean . So something to think about when

8:55

you go to vote , because it is coming up . We

8:57

need to address this stuff . We need to , really we

8:59

need to . I don't preach sermons about

9:01

it , but what I tell my leaders is this like

9:04

if they have a class or something , I say don't

9:07

expressly talk about Democrats or

9:09

Republicans . Talk

9:11

about biblical things that are

9:13

wrong in the sight of God and

9:16

that will usually land them on a side of political

9:18

take , but anyways

9:20

. So let's watch this little video

9:22

about Trump , and it's pretty informative

9:25

, and I want you always

9:27

use critical thinking and

9:29

think for yourself . Do not just

9:31

do what everybody else around you is doing . Think

9:33

for yourself . Okay

9:36

, let's watch this .

9:37

Donald Trump's real religious beliefs are probably

9:39

not what you think they are , with polls showing that most

9:42

Americans don't believe that Trump is actually religious

9:44

at all . 33% of Americans still

9:46

believe that Trump is indeed a Protestant

9:48

Christian , and when it comes to what he- .

9:50

So what do you think ? Do you think Trump is a Christian

9:52

? Do you think ? Exactly

9:54

Cassie said vote

9:56

for whoever is closest to the word of God

9:58

. This thing gets a money . Errors Hold on , I'm

10:00

about to fix this in real time . Sorry

10:03

, I just get it on my nerves . It does it every single

10:05

time and I don't know why . Anyway , okay

10:07

, while we're paused for a second , make sure

10:09

that you go over to

10:12

faith and failures . If

10:14

you're not watching on YouTube or

10:17

you are watching on YouTube , go over

10:19

to Facebook , instagram , facebook Instagram Collectively

10:22

. Thank y'all so much . About 3,000

10:24

people follow either the Instagram account

10:26

or they follow YouTube . We just passed

10:28

, I think , 1,400 subscribers , something like that . So

10:31

that's a pretty awesome thing . Thank y'all . Just

10:33

while we're stopped , below any link

10:35

that you use that says Amazon

10:37

. So I'm an Amazon affiliate , which means if you

10:39

buy water , you buy dog

10:41

food , anything like that , you click my link , I get a little

10:44

percentage or a kickback and no extra cost to

10:46

you . Or if you wanna give directly some of y'all

10:48

do that too I greatly appreciate it . There

10:50

is a PayPal link that you could click where you can

10:52

do a one-time or you can do a monthly

10:54

reoccurring donation . This is a

10:56

ministry and I greatly appreciate it . Now

10:59

that that's over , he truly believes

11:01

.

11:01

the truth isn't what it may appear to be on the surface

11:03

, and in order to understand his actual beliefs

11:06

, we first have to understand his religious

11:08

history . Trump's parents , fred

11:10

and Mary Trump , enrolled Trump in the Sunday

11:12

School in the 1950s , when Trump was just

11:14

a kid .

11:15

Tell me that still don't look like him . I forgot to take your thing

11:17

. Tell me that still don't look like him . A little bit Like

11:19

that looks like Trump , Just a little baby

11:21

face straight up yeah .

11:24

I was born into a family

11:26

where my father was religious . My mother

11:28

was religious . I wouldn't say they were

11:30

going to church every single

11:32

day , but they were believers

11:35

.

11:35

In 1959 , trump was first confirmed at

11:37

first Presbyterian church in Jamaica , queens

11:39

, when he was just 13 years old . But

11:41

Trump's religious views continue to evolve

11:43

as he and his father became captivated by the

11:45

teachings of Norman Vincent Pyl , who

11:47

is the pastor of Marble Collegiate Church in Manhattan

11:50

. Trump started going to Pyl's church in the 1960s

11:52

and still references Pyl as having a remarkable

11:55

impact on him and his life .

11:56

The great Norman Vincent Pyl was my pastor

11:59

. He was the greatest guy .

12:00

If the name Norman Vincent Pyl doesn't sound familiar

12:02

, you may be aware of his 1952

12:04

book , the Power of Positive Thinking , as

12:06

the title later became a common catchphrase

12:09

in our culture . Now , though , pyl was a Christian

12:11

pastor . Many considered him to be a heretic

12:13

, because he taught that you can bring your desires

12:15

into existence with only your thoughts , that

12:17

God is energy that you can harness in your imagination

12:20

, and was reported as which is

12:22

new age nonsense

12:24

.

12:25

Like what is it ? Faith , word

12:27

of faith , movement . So I've

12:30

been really studying this kind of stuff here lately

12:32

. So that may become an episode , but

12:34

it's , if you don't know , I'm at Pentecostal , which

12:36

we believe that God

12:39

gave us spiritual gifts

12:41

and one of those gifts is healing faith

12:43

. James , chapter five , tells us to lay

12:45

hands on the sick and they will recover . So we believe

12:48

that . But with every

12:50

denomination or every form of Christianity

12:52

or any kind of religion , there's extremists

12:55

and the word of faith are like extremists

12:57

, like you have . They have like a very weird doctrine

12:59

and very specific that you won't even know it's there

13:01

until you dive deep into what they believe

13:03

. So pay attention , because these are the people right

13:06

here .

13:06

It's also teaching that Jesus was not the

13:08

only way To add to Pyl's controversial

13:10

views . Pyl undoubtedly taught and

13:12

endorsed some new age and occult beliefs , as

13:15

well as endorsing several new age writers

13:17

. Several Christian teachers in his day also

13:19

criticized Pyl for replacing the heart of the gospel

13:21

message with positive thinking , as well as

13:23

peddling worldly success instead of

13:25

eternal salvation .

13:27

She had never heard of the science

13:29

of positive imaging , nor

13:31

of positive thinking , but

13:33

Jesus Christ had made her a

13:36

positive thinker .

13:37

But as the years went on , trump and Pyl became

13:39

closest . Pyl ordained Trump's first marriage as

13:41

well as his parents' funerals . In Trump's

13:44

book Great Again , trump says that Pyl would instill

13:46

in him a very positive feeling about God . That

13:48

also made him feel positive about himself

13:50

, and that he would literally leave church feeling

13:52

like he could listen to another three sermons . Although

13:55

Pyl died of a stroke in 1993 , the

13:57

roots of Pyl's teachings could be traced in Trump's

13:59

beliefs for many more years to come . But

14:01

in order to understand why this is so crucial

14:04

to understanding Trump's beliefs , we first

14:06

have to turn to Trump's major public conversations

14:08

about God , and the first significant one was

14:10

in 2011 . In 2011

14:13

, trump announced that he was seriously considering

14:15

running for president , and he started to do more

14:17

interviews , including an interview with David

14:19

Brody of the Christian Bible Network . It

14:21

was in this interview that Trump stated his beliefs

14:23

about God , the Bible and going to church

14:25

.

14:26

You were a little bit about God and your views

14:28

on God .

14:29

Well , I believe in God . I am Christian

14:32

, I believe very strongly

14:34

in God . I think that the

14:36

Bible certainly is one of . I

14:38

mean , it is the book , it

14:40

is the thing .

14:41

Do you actively go to church , or is that something

14:43

that it's more just when you can ?

14:45

So just to clarify now I want you

14:48

to think about this . Is wording there Now

14:50

maybe the question was to him do

14:52

you believe in God ? If you are a Christian

14:55

, trying to figure out if somebody else

14:57

is a Christian , asking

14:59

the question do you believe in God

15:01

is a dumb question . Now why

15:03

do I say that ? Because the devil believes

15:06

in God . The Bible tells us that

15:08

only through

15:10

grace , by faith , faith

15:13

in Jesus , jesus Christ , is the

15:15

only way to heaven

15:17

. So asking

15:19

do you believe in God is

15:21

not a smart question to ask . It's not a good

15:24

, prompting question for you to assess

15:26

where someone is spiritually , because

15:28

even the devils tremble

15:31

. We have to know if they have

15:33

accepted Jesus as the Lord and Savior . It's

15:35

a big difference . It's important for you to know , as a Christian

15:37

, what questions to ask so

15:39

that you can be led by the spirit of how

15:41

to respond and where to lead Can right

15:44

?

15:44

well , I go as much as I can , always

15:47

on Christmas , always on Easter

15:49

. That .

15:50

I'm not gonna believe somebody all may do that , that's

15:52

just you're forsaken

15:55

the gathering , that's

15:57

not going to church .

15:58

Always when there's a major occasion and

16:01

during the Sundays I'm a Sunday

16:04

church person I'll go when I can .

16:06

But even though .

16:06

Trump talked about how important his faith . Tell

16:09

me that wasn't a political answer . I only go

16:11

on Easter and Christmas and

16:14

Sundays . I'm a Sunday person .

16:16

Yeah all right Close to him . Some people were skeptical

16:18

, given his controversial past of owning casinos

16:21

, multiple affairs , being married three

16:23

times , among other controversies

16:25

that he was involved in up until that point . However

16:27

, as Trump ran for president in 2015 , people

16:30

considered the fact that he could indeed be

16:32

a changed man , as he would talk more

16:34

and more about the Bible at his rallies .

16:36

My second favorite book of all

16:38

time . What's my first favorite book ? The

16:41

Bible .

16:42

Now think about this If you're running for an

16:44

office , you're going to

16:47

cater to the

16:49

people that are most likely to

16:52

vote for you . It's called politics . Now

16:55

, I'm not trying to judge whether he is or isn't

16:57

a follower of Jesus , but

17:00

someone can talk with their mouth all

17:02

they want . I wanna see the fruit . You

17:04

know what I mean . You go into the clubs . You're doing

17:06

all that I mean . If you're living a life of

17:08

debauchery and sin and

17:10

you still go to church on Sundays , who

17:13

do you think your real master is ?

17:14

Trump continued to talk about his faith , a lot

17:16

of Christians started to see Trump in a more favorable

17:18

light . Go .

17:20

Trump . He represents the godly

17:22

people of the United States of America .

17:24

Do you think he's always acting like a good Christian ?

17:26

Absolutely . How can you build

17:29

that kind of empire if you're not praying

17:31

to God for good things every day ?

17:33

The way that he talked about the Bible made a lot of .

17:35

That's false . I've seen a lot

17:37

of rich people that have no clue who God is

17:39

. Being rich has

17:42

nothing to do with whether you know to God

17:44

or not , and this is the problem right

17:46

here . People like this on

17:48

this video that are like now

17:50

some call them Trump Tards . That's like , that's mean

17:52

. I think the guy is good

17:54

for the government . I think he would be good as president

17:56

again , but also

17:59

, if we're talking not presidential

18:01

, just as a person like

18:04

he is , that's like said

18:06

okay , think about this . Now this is getting serious

18:08

. Biden said in

18:10

a speech that transgender

18:13

people are the backbone

18:15

of the United States . That

18:17

was his comment . That is of the same

18:19

measure of this woman saying

18:21

that Trump represents Christian people in America

18:24

. Because he doesn't . I'm

18:26

going to go on . Yeah , I'm getting quiet .

18:28

A lot of Christians happy believe in that Trump

18:31

was in fact a genuine Christian , and

18:33

they were excited to have a president who not only

18:35

loved the Bible but unashamedly talked

18:37

about it .

18:38

Most importantly , I brought

18:40

my Bible . You know , it's first Presbyterian

18:43

church Jamaica and this was

18:45

written by my mother with my name

18:47

, with my address , with everything . In

18:49

case I lost it , somebody would return it

18:51

In Iowa . It just came out on number

18:53

one at 29 , substantially

18:56

ahead of anyone else . I'm happy about that . You

18:58

know why . That's the reason .

19:00

That's the reason , but not everyone

19:02

was happy with this , as several cometers

19:04

complained that his Bible looked like it hadn't been

19:07

open more than a few times in 70 years

19:09

and that he was just using the Bible as a prop

19:11

in order to get more votes .

19:13

Thank you . Now , I'm not saying that's

19:15

what he was doing , but I mean , in reality , in

19:17

the end it all ends up being propaganda , like

19:20

who's going to vote

19:22

for me ? I'm going to cater

19:24

to what they like . I'm going to try to

19:26

say things they like . I

19:28

mean that's a part of the political

19:31

game , that's a part of trying

19:33

to get voted in the office . You start doing things

19:35

and that's how so much dirt

19:37

is in the

19:39

political parties is because

19:42

you do things for certain people , so certain

19:44

bills get passed that you want to get passed . They may

19:46

be good , but apparently you can tag things

19:48

on the end of them and it's like what kind

19:51

of system is this ? It's one

19:53

that you can just pander to

19:55

a certain group of people and

19:57

make them think that you're going to be

19:59

what they want . Now

20:02

I'm not saying Trump is doing that , but in

20:04

2024 , we're voting again . You need

20:06

to think about these things so that

20:08

you can be a responsible voter .

20:10

In addition , the skepticism of Trump's love for

20:12

the Bible only increased after Trump

20:14

was asked what his favorite Bible verse was , and

20:17

many interpreted his response as

20:19

an attempt at dodging the question . You mentioned the

20:21

Bible . You've been talking about how it's your favorite

20:23

book and you said , I think last night in Iowa

20:25

. Some people are surprised that you say that .

20:27

I'm wondering what one or two of your most

20:29

favorite Bible verses are , and

20:31

why .

20:31

I wouldn't want to get into it because to me that's very

20:33

personal . You know , when I talk about the Bible it's very

20:36

personal , so I don't want to get in .

20:38

Okay , I'm sorry for stopping it so much , but

20:40

if somebody loves something and they can't

20:42

talk about it like they're like , oh no , that's personal

20:44

, but they want to say it on a stage in front

20:46

of thousands all the time , but then you ask

20:48

specifics and they can't get very specific

20:51

, they probably don't know

20:53

what they're talking about . Now

20:55

I'm very gracious in this

20:57

area because I'm a pastor of a church and

20:59

I am terrible at remembering

21:02

what or where verses

21:04

are found in the Bible . I can quote them , but

21:06

I can't remember if it's like Matthew , chapter 10

21:08

, verses five through nine , or if it's Matthew , chapter

21:11

three , verses nine through 10 . You

21:13

know it , to me it's so confusing it's

21:15

very hard for me to remember that . But I can

21:18

quote description , like for

21:20

instance , in the chat right now in

21:22

the comment section , if you're watching this later , but

21:25

down in the bottom , what your favorite verse

21:27

is Like . You don't have to quote where it's

21:29

from . But your favorite verse For

21:31

me it was when , and I

21:33

know the story , so this is how you know . I actually

21:35

read it when it says Jesus whipped

21:38

. It's the shortest verse

21:40

in the Bible and also to

21:42

me it is a reminder

21:44

that Jesus felt things to . So

21:46

when I'm down , when I'm hurting , when

21:49

I am grieving , when I am in

21:51

sorrow , I can remember that

21:54

Jesus once felt

21:56

that way too , and so that's

21:58

why that's my favorite verse . So let me know what yours

22:00

is , we'll move on .

22:01

I don't want to get into it . It's a me plot

22:03

too that you think about or cite .

22:05

The Bible means a lot to me , but I don't want to get into

22:07

specifics .

22:09

Even to cite a verse that you like no , I don't want to do it . It's

22:11

a good politic . Political answer Is that ?

22:13

an old .

22:13

Testament guy or a new Testament .

22:15

Really Well . I

22:17

think it's just an incredible . The

22:19

whole Bible is an incredible joke

22:21

, very much so they always hold

22:23

up the art of the deal . I say my second favorite book of

22:25

all time .

22:26

This topic was brought up again in another interview

22:28

, in which Trump did seem to point to a specific

22:31

verse that he found the most impactful . However

22:33

, the verse that he quoted seemed to be a

22:35

verse that didn't actually exist

22:37

.

22:38

You talked about yet the art of

22:40

the deal , great book , the Bible , even

22:42

better .

22:43

Why is that ? For you ? There's so many things

22:45

, like you know . You take whatever you want

22:47

to say , there's so many things that you could learn

22:49

from it . Proverbs , the chapter never

22:51

bend to envy . I've had that thing all of

22:53

my life where people are

22:55

bending to envy and

22:57

they're just . It's actually . It's an

22:59

incredible book . So many things you can

23:01

learn from the Bible and you can lead your life

23:04

and I'm not just talking in terms of religion , I'm

23:06

talking in terms of leading a life , even

23:08

beyond a religion . There's so

23:10

many brilliant things in the Bible .

23:13

Following this interview , many were quick to point out

23:15

that there was no chapter in Proverbs

23:17

with the verse on bending and need to envy

23:19

. But the question of Trump's favorite Bible verse was

23:21

a question that people didn't seem to want to let go

23:23

of as , once again , Trump

23:25

was asked this question and gave yet a

23:27

different answer . Is is there a favorite

23:30

Bible verse ?

23:31

or Bible story that has informed

23:33

your thinking or your character through life , sir .

23:36

Well , I think many . I mean , you know , when we get

23:38

into the Bible , I think many , so

23:40

many , and it's helping

23:42

people to hold up an eye for an eye you can almost say that

23:44

that's not a particularly nice thing . But you know , if you

23:46

look at what's happening to our country

23:48

I mean when you see what's going on with our country

23:50

, how people are taking advantage of

23:52

us and how they scoff at us

23:55

and laugh at us and they laugh at our face and

23:57

they're taking our jobs , they're taking our

23:59

money , they're taking our , you know

24:01

, they're taking the health of our country and

24:03

we have to be very firm and we have to

24:05

be very strong and we can learn a lot

24:07

from the Bible , that I can tell you .

24:09

So this time , trump did indeed quote the Bible correctly

24:11

. However , in the New Testament , christ

24:13

commanded us not to embrace an eye for

24:15

an eye , contrary to Trump's appeal to the

24:18

verse .

24:19

Maybe he's not as perfect on the Bible

24:21

, but I did go to Sunday school for many years

24:23

. I want to tell you .

24:24

But despite Trump's biblical mistakes , many Christians were

24:26

still pleased with the positive things that Trump

24:28

said about the Bible and faith , even though it seemed

24:30

as though he wasn't the most well versed on specific

24:33

passages .

24:34

Now , that's true . So , and , by the way , cassie

24:36

said Ephesians 2 , 19 . Listen to that . Oh

24:39

, look that Ephesians 2 , 19, . See

24:41

what it is . While looking that

24:43

up , somebody else posted your Ephesians 2

24:45

, 19 . Consequently , you

24:47

are no longer foreigners and

24:49

strangers of fellow

24:51

citizens with God , people and

24:54

God's people , also members of his household . I'm

24:56

going to read 22 , built on the foundation

24:58

of the apostles and the prophets , with Christ Jesus

25:00

himself as a chief cornerstone . Boom

25:03

, boom . I like it . I

25:05

like it . Yeah , god brought us in , made

25:08

his family , so yeah

25:10

, and I'm not trying to pounce on Trump with

25:12

all this stuff but what I'm saying is is

25:14

that , like how he

25:17

said that ? You know he did say something about

25:19

the Bible . You know somebody

25:22

as influential as Trump

25:24

, even though he may not be well versed

25:26

or nobody's talking about , or maybe even

25:28

be . He may not even be real with what

25:30

he's saying and he doesn't really care . He's just saying it because of

25:32

votes . You know , I think God can

25:34

use anything and I think it's very

25:36

, very possible that some people that maybe

25:39

valued Trump in a different way , that was

25:41

not Christian , was not biblical , heard

25:43

him say some things like that and maybe it got them curious

25:46

. I believe God can use things like that and

25:48

I hope that he has through

25:50

all of this . But anyways , let's

25:53

go .

25:53

Two Corinthians right . Two Corinthians

25:55

317, . That's the all ball

25:58

game .

25:58

But just as people started to brush that aside , trump

26:00

answered a question that would no doubt be

26:02

one of the things that was most responsible for people

26:05

believing that he was not , in fact , the true

26:07

Christian . In July of 2015 , trump

26:09

was asked if he ever asked God for forgiveness

26:11

, which , of course , is foundational to the Christian

26:13

faith , and here was his response

26:15

. I just got one more because you used the word Christian

26:18

.

26:18

Have you ever asked God for forgiveness ? That's

26:21

a tough question . I don't think in terms

26:23

of . I'm a religious person Shockingly

26:26

, because people are so shocked when

26:28

they find this out I'm Protestant

26:31

, I'm Presbyterian and

26:33

I go to church and I love God and I love

26:35

my church and Norman Vincent Peale

26:37

. The great Norman Vincent Peale was my pastor

26:39

, the power of positive thinking . Everybody's

26:42

heard of Norman Vincent Peale . He was so great . He

26:44

would give a sermon you never wanted to leave

26:46

. Sometimes we have sermons and everyone

26:49

said , well , we think about leaving a little early , right even though

26:51

we're Christian .

26:52

He didn't answer the question . If he's just 210

26:55

, that's what she said . If he's just 210

26:57

, hold on now , let's look . Let's look . We're

26:59

on a live stream here . We're just hanging out , let's do this . I

27:01

already finished my message for tomorrow , so , but

27:04

we are his workmanship . Created in Christ

27:06

Jesus , for God works

27:08

or sorry , for good works , which

27:11

God can read , which God prepared

27:13

beforehand that we should

27:15

walk in them . Cool , I

27:18

like it . It's a good one too . Shout out to Ephesians

27:20

oh my , I was trying to activate my

27:22

credit card . I tried to make no purchase

27:24

, all right .

27:26

The Norman Vincent Peale Frank would

27:28

give a sermon . I'm

27:31

telling you I still remember his sermons

27:34

. It was unbelievable and what he would do is

27:36

he'd bring real life situations , modern

27:38

day situations , into the sermon and

27:41

you could listen to him all day long when

27:43

you left the church . It would disappoint

27:46

that it was over . He was the greatest guy and

27:48

then you know he passed away , but he was great

27:50

. He wrote the power of positive thinking

27:52

, which is great .

27:53

So at this point it seemed as if Trump was merely

27:55

dodging the questions . The host repeated

27:57

the questions to him once again . What have

27:59

you ever asked God for forgiveness

28:02

?

28:03

See , now think about it . If someone

28:05

actually knew God , why

28:07

would they run from a question like

28:10

have you ever asked God for forgiveness

28:12

? That doesn't make a . I'm just think critically

28:14

. Think logically here . Follow just

28:17

listen to what's being said , how it's being

28:19

done , and don't look at who you're listening

28:21

to , because that can manipulate how you

28:23

receive it . Just think about it .

28:25

Not sure I have . I just go and try and do

28:27

a better job from there . I don't think so . I

28:30

think if I do something

28:32

wrong , I think I just try and make it right

28:34

. I don't bring God

28:36

into that picture , I don't Now

28:38

when I take you know what ?

28:40

Now listen , he just said hold on

28:42

, just run a bit . He won't answer the question . And

28:45

then he says I don't

28:48

bring God into the picture

28:50

. Now think about this If someone

28:52

knows God and has a relationship with

28:55

the Father and has asked

28:58

Jesus to cover them in their blood , and

29:01

you don't bring God into things , just

29:03

say it , think about it , think so .

29:05

I think if I do something

29:07

wrong , I think I just try and make it right

29:09

. I don't bring God

29:11

into that picture . I don't Now

29:13

when I take , you know , when we go in church

29:16

and when I drink my little

29:18

wine which is about the only wine I drink and have

29:20

my little cracker . I guess that's a form

29:22

of asking for forgiveness and I do

29:24

that as- .

29:25

No , actually the Bible tells us that

29:27

before we take communion

29:29

we should ask for forgiveness , to

29:31

examine ourselves before

29:34

death fall on us . Like taking

29:37

communion is serious . It

29:39

means something and that's

29:42

not asking God for forgiveness at all

29:44

.

29:44

As often as possible because I feel cleansed

29:46

, okay . But you know , to

29:48

me that's important , I do that , but

29:50

in terms of officially , I see , I couldn't

29:52

say absolutely and everybody . I don't

29:54

think in terms of that . I think in terms of

29:56

let's go on and let's make

29:59

it right . So let's- .

30:00

Trump's response generated quite a bit of backlash

30:03

, which is why , in 2016 , trump was

30:05

offered a chance to change or even clarify

30:07

his answer to that question .

30:09

When you said that you've never asked God for forgiveness

30:12

. Do you regret making

30:14

that remark ?

30:14

No , I have great relationship with God

30:17

. I have great relationship with

30:19

the evangelicals , In fact

30:21

, nationwide . I'm up by a lot

30:23

. I'm leading everybody .

30:25

That had nothing to do with a question

30:27

, like it literally had

30:29

. Again , he's a . This is what

30:31

I'm saying . Like people are

30:33

following this guy , christian

30:35

people , christian people are following this

30:37

guy . Now , I'm not saying if you follow him , you're not a Christian

30:39

. It's not what I'm saying . What I'm saying is

30:41

, as a Christian , we

30:44

have to be on guard with just following

30:46

anybody that says that they are a Christian

30:48

. This is why people end up in churches

30:51

they don't need to be a part of , because they're following

30:53

people that say they are

30:55

a messenger , say that they are sent by

30:57

God or say that they have a prophecy over your life

30:59

. If they don't measure up with

31:01

the scripture , they are not of

31:04

God . Now , whether

31:06

the point we're not putting on the

31:08

balance here of whether Trump is good

31:10

for the country or not , I think he's

31:12

very good . He shakes things up . He don't care what

31:14

people have to say . He's not scared

31:17

of them , which is very good . That means he won't end

31:19

up in somebody's pocket and just be

31:21

a little puppet on strings . That's awesome , that's

31:23

perfect . But people

31:25

have asked me this specific question what

31:28

do you think about Trump and the way I

31:30

look at things in my life is I look

31:32

at them according to the

31:34

word . Is this going to be something

31:36

that I do personally ? Because , as a Christian

31:38

, I should be measuring everything up to

31:41

the word of God . I should be measuring everything

31:44

up and asking what

31:46

does the word of God say ? What

31:48

does God tell

31:50

me to ? How does he tell me to

31:52

act ? Respond See Matthew

31:55

21 and 23, . Let's look that up

31:57

right now . Matthew

31:59

21, . Right , no

32:01

, matthew . What Matthew seven ? Okay

32:03

, let's look at that . Let's read some scripture . I

32:06

love looking up scripture , especially one

32:08

that other people like 21

32:10

through 23 . This is not everyone who says

32:13

to me hey , hey , hey , you

32:15

must have picked that one out because of the topic . Okay

32:17

, so this is perfect for our topic

32:19

. I'm pretty sure it doesn't show

32:21

a picture , but I'm pretty sure it says V and

32:24

F . That's probably one of my board members and

32:26

not everyone who says to me Lord , lord , will

32:28

enter the kingdom of heaven . Now

32:30

, if you're a Christian , are you claimed to be a Christian

32:32

? Just because you call God

32:34

Lord does not make you a Christian . Your

32:37

fruit is directly connected

32:39

to the root . So if you're not

32:41

living a life that is holy and righteous

32:43

before God , covered and saturated in

32:45

his spirit and in his excuse

32:48

me and in his righteousness , then

32:50

you're not of God . I know that's harsh

32:53

, but that's the facts . I think

32:55

that the world is gonna be . The

32:57

world is not gonna be as empty as we think . When the rapture

32:59

happens , when God , when Jesus , comes back

33:01

in the clouds , I think there's gonna be people that

33:03

are gonna show up business as usual

33:06

to the church house on Sunday and

33:08

wonder why in the world everybody's still

33:10

there , because it's not gonna be as much as we think . Hey

33:12

, methuselah , by the way , make sure

33:15

you go check out on the YouTube channel and

33:17

the Facebook and Instagram . The

33:20

guy who's commenting . His name is Vernon and

33:22

we talked about creation . Very good episodes , all

33:24

right . So not everyone who says me Lord , lord , we'll enter the kingdom

33:27

of heaven , but he who does the

33:29

will of my Father , who is

33:31

in heaven , will enter . Many

33:33

will say to me on that day Lord , lord

33:35

, did we not ? This is pretty

33:37

crazy to me . This is what

33:40

shocks me , because this is pastors

33:42

, teachers , people that call themselves prophets

33:44

or apostles , whatever this falls underneath

33:47

. They fall underneath this scripture right

33:49

here . Many will say to me on

33:51

that day Lord , lord , did

33:53

we not prophesy in your name and

33:56

in your name , cast out demons and , in

33:58

your name , perform many miracles

34:00

, but he's still gonna say depart from me , I

34:03

never knew you . We , as

34:06

people who say that we are believers , should

34:09

make sure that we are doing

34:12

the will of the Father

34:14

, because one day , when your number

34:16

is called , you're gonna stand before him and

34:18

one day you'll have to answer

34:20

Whoops , sorry . One

34:23

day you will have to answer for

34:25

everything that you've done , and this is I

34:27

tell my churches all the time . I feel it so strong in

34:29

my heart is that people

34:32

like this I'm not bashing on

34:34

Trump , but I want you to think about this we're

34:36

in the Bible Belt . People go to church over

34:38

here because that's how they were raised , because they think

34:40

they're supposed to be going to church and

34:43

there's no relationship with God , and so they think because

34:45

they come to church , they hear a good word , they've lift their

34:47

hands a little bit and they think they're good , but yet

34:49

throughout the week , they just live a normal life that

34:51

has nothing to do with God . How in

34:53

the world can you think , how in the world

34:55

can we think that we

34:57

know God when God is never involved

35:00

in anything that we do , except on a Sunday morning

35:02

, or because you think you're a part of a certain denomination

35:04

, or whenever you want to slap on there like you

35:07

have to understand that there is a relationship

35:09

that has to be bearing

35:12

fruit in your life , that you know God

35:14

For . As a little sermon , let's just go on before

35:16

I get deeper in this .

35:18

But I like to be good . I don't like to have to

35:20

ask for forgiveness and I am good . I

35:22

don't do a lot of things at a band . I try

35:24

and do nothing . That's bad .

35:26

Now , of course , seeking forgiveness is out the foundation

35:28

of Christianity . The interviewer tries to

35:30

ask Trump whether or not he at least sought forgiveness

35:33

for their affairs and other things that he's done in

35:35

the past .

35:36

The life you have now . When

35:38

you say that you try to do good , that sounds

35:40

very different from decades of tabloid

35:43

media coverage in New York , in which

35:45

some of your wilder escapades were not

35:47

.

35:48

I'm talking about over the last number of years

35:50

. I mean , I'm bleeding a very good

35:52

life , I try to lead a good life and

35:55

I have and , frankly , the reason

35:57

I'm doing so well in Iowa and leading the polls

35:59

, including the CNN poll where I'm 33

36:02

to 20 in Iowa . And

36:04

, by the way , one of the things that I didn't like that Ted

36:06

Cruz did , Liza , he said oh he's doing so well in

36:08

the poll , and as he went on , he changed the topic

36:10

of the conversation .

36:11

But even though he changed the topic , what many were

36:13

still wondering was how his faith has

36:15

changed since his early 20s , and the answer

36:17

to this question became far more clear around

36:20

the year 2020 . In 2020 , we got

36:22

another insight into Trump's beliefs . As

36:24

one of his spiritual advisors and the senior pastor

36:26

of New Destiny Christian Center , paula White became

36:29

more notable . Like Trump , white has also

36:31

had her fair share of businesses gone wrong and has

36:33

also been buried three times , but her

36:35

past isn't what made her so controversial

36:37

. The controversy around White began to come

36:39

to light after she made a public prayer for Trump

36:42

during the 2020 election cycle .

36:44

I hear a sound of an abundance of rain . I

36:46

hear a sound of victory . The

36:48

Lord says it is done . The

36:51

Lord says it is done Now

36:53

. Angels have even dispatched from Africa

36:55

right now . Africa right now .

36:57

Wheels on the bus go round . I think that's what the

36:59

beat she was singing Like . This is

37:01

nonsense , complete nonsense

37:03

. She's just doing something to do something .

37:06

Africa right now , from Africa right now , they're

37:08

coming here . They're coming here .

37:10

However , what a lot of people didn't know was that

37:12

Trump and White go back to 2002

37:14

, and Trump even appeared on her TV

37:16

show in 2008 . White claims that

37:18

over the years they remain close friends and have

37:20

had several private Bible studies together as

37:22

well . After Trump took office , he elected

37:24

her as a spiritual advisor .

37:26

Word to the wise men never have private Bible

37:28

studies with another woman by yourself .

37:30

Kaiser and she held several prayer circles for

37:32

him . But given what we know about Trump's past , white's

37:35

teachings might look a little familiar

37:37

. White also teaches the power of positive

37:39

thinking , as well as what's commonly known as

37:41

the prosperity gospel , which is similar roots

37:44

to the teachings of Trump's former pastor , norman

37:46

Vincent Peele . So it's no wonder why

37:48

Trump has been known to be associated with several

37:50

of those identified as prosperity teachers

37:52

, who emphasize the power yes , I

37:54

just learned the term prophylide , which is

37:57

like prophesied but lying , and

37:59

I love it .

38:00

Hold on , dang . Why

38:02

can't I not get this thing to act right ? It

38:04

cuts it off , ba-doop , ba-doop . Anyways

38:06

, here's part of it . I don't know what to do with this . I

38:09

have to fix this . Anyways , yeah , pat

38:11

Robertson , also Kenneth Copeland

38:13

, run Our word of positive

38:15

thinking .

38:16

At this point , it seems as if Trump's theology has

38:18

grown from the teachings of Peele and has continued

38:20

to develop further in the teachings of White

38:22

. But the question that seems to matter the most is not

38:24

necessarily what Did ?

38:25

the girl likes to dance or something , because

38:28

she keeps singing and moving .

38:29

Trump believed in the past , but what Trump

38:32

believes today . Many claim that Trump was initially

38:34

a baby Christian when he took office , but has now

38:36

solidified his faith in Christ . Of course

38:38

, until recently , this was just speculation

38:40

, but during a Q&A in July of 2023

38:43

, trump was asked directly how his

38:45

faith has grown since he first decided

38:47

to run for president .

38:48

My question is how

38:50

has your faith grown since you

38:53

decided in 2015 to

38:55

run for president , and who

38:57

has met or viewed your faith journey

38:59

?

38:59

Great question . Such a great question . You know I've

39:02

seen so much heartache and

39:04

turmoil . I was a developer and I

39:06

did other things and you know I had a wonderful

39:08

. I had a wonderful life before all this stuff . I

39:10

didn't know what a grand jury was . I didn't know what

39:13

a subpoena , what is a subpoena . I

39:15

had a wonderful life . I'm

39:17

so glad they were asking me the other day a little different

39:19

question Are you glad you did ? It Was so

39:22

. You had a great life and you're glad you did it . I

39:24

couldn't be more glad . I am so happy

39:26

I did it because I've made America great

39:28

. We can do it again . Right now we don't even

39:31

know it . Okay , you have not a

39:33

great template , but I'm glad

39:35

you didn't know because of this , Steve and

39:37

Joe .

39:37

Now , once again , Trump's response comes across

39:40

as if he's dodging the question . We're almost a

39:42

minute into his response and haven't gotten the direct

39:44

answer , but let's hear how he finishes

39:47

his answer to this question .

39:48

I mean I know so many people and

39:51

they feel so good about themselves

39:53

and their family and they base it on religion

39:55

. I had never had that

39:57

kind of an experience where I got to know so

39:59

many . And Franklin Graham

40:01

and Paul White , I mean I know so many

40:03

people that are so incredible religious

40:06

people and not just Christians , not

40:08

just evangelicals . You know

40:10

, when I look at the Catholic faith , you

40:12

take a look at what the FBI you know

40:15

, but look at what the FBI is doing in

40:17

Catholics . They made them like the enemy

40:19

They've made them .

40:20

It's horrible . This is the most recent explanation

40:22

that we've gotten from Trump at the time of this recording

40:25

and , as you just heard , trump never

40:27

answered the question directly . So we may

40:29

not have all of our questions answered , but here's

40:31

what we do know we don't have any

40:33

of our questions answered . First

40:36

off , one thing that we know for sure is that only

40:38

God knows Trump's heart and what he truly

40:40

believes . But , going off of all of

40:42

the public data that we have , trump seems to embrace

40:44

views that could be considered religious , but not

40:47

necessarily Christian . In essence , as

40:49

stated earlier , at the core of Christianity

40:51

is forgiveness . We can't fully believe our trust

40:53

in ourselves , for a sense , if I do something

40:56

wrong .

40:56

I think I just try and make it right . I

40:58

don't bring God into that picture

41:00

.

41:00

Instead , we have to believe in trust in Christ

41:02

for a sense , and , as a result , our

41:05

sins are forgiven . So without forgiveness

41:07

, we can't claim to be Christian in any meaningful

41:09

sense of the word . Trump's apparent lack of seeking

41:11

forgiveness from God may stem from the teachings of

41:13

Pil , whose some believe tried to do away

41:15

with the negativity of sin and who apparently

41:18

also taught that Jesus wasn't the only way to

41:20

heaven . The issue with that belief is that

41:22

it doesn't seem to account for the problem . Biblically

41:24

speaking , the problem that all of us have is that

41:27

our sins separates us from God , and

41:29

in order to live in the presence of this perfect God

41:31

, we too must be perfect , but we're

41:33

not perfect because we've all fallen short

41:35

of his perfect righteousness . This

41:37

is why we need Jesus , because Jesus

41:39

lived the perfect life that we should have lived and

41:42

then died the death that we should have died , and

41:44

then , in his perfect mercy , he offered

41:46

us the life that he lived in place of our

41:48

own . So that way , when we stand before God , our

41:50

salvation can be judged based off of the life that

41:52

he lived , rather than the life that we

41:54

lived . That's why Christians believe that Jesus

41:57

is the only way and why we're no longer talking

41:59

about Christianity once we remove forgiveness

42:01

from the picture . Now , as I say that perhaps

42:03

Trump does believe in the full gospel message

42:06

and his need for forgiveness , although I couldn't

42:08

find any public record of him saying

42:10

so and also perhaps his views have changed

42:12

since the beginning of his presidency , although , when

42:14

given the opportunity , he hasn't clarified

42:17

this as to be the case . But at any rate

42:19

, as far as we can tell , it seems that Trump's

42:21

actual beliefs , whatever they may be , are

42:23

still missing the core tenet of Christianity

42:25

a need for a savior , and without a savior

42:27

, of course , we can't be saved

42:29

. Thanks , Now , if you've made it this far in the video , make

42:32

sure you hit the like button , so that way we could make yeah

42:34

, make sure so you can see at the bottom of the screen , right

42:36

there , right here , I think you can see my mouse .

42:38

Yeah , what do you mean ? Go over there , give that guy a

42:41

subscription on YouTube . Very

42:43

good channel , he's biblically sound . I

42:45

don't know , it's in-depth theology , but so

42:49

when I found that video , I was like this is exactly

42:51

exactly what

42:53

I was talking about , See you next

42:56

time .