Maggie Nowak (the farmer formerly known as Maggie Krueger) joins Amirah and Will to talk about her experiences participating in Stony Point Center's Farm the Land, Grow the Spirit Summer Institute program and her work now with Southside Community Land Trust in Providence, RI. Their conversation touches on the process of becoming a farmer, arguments they had in 2015 about killing groundhogs, bringing your faith tradition into a non-religious work space, rocks, racial justice, and the holy month of Ramadan...because it's Ramadan.