0:00

Holy cow, I got so many things

0:02

to say. I got so many things to say. I'm

0:04

so excited about this episode, Zackly, you

0:06

have no idea. This is a big episode. This

0:08

is a very good episode. By the way, Judy came

0:10

for a good one. Yeah. Not only is

0:12

it a big episode, but this is Listen,

0:15

man, I feel like I didn't

0:17

know what I had when I had it. You

0:19

know what I mean. Carla and Turk,

0:22

Carla and Turk. Oh my gosh, Oh

0:24

my gosh. You want to talk about our good

0:26

relationship on television, and you want

0:28

to talk about a relationship, especially

0:30

at the time that we were filming it. I really

0:32

needed a relationship like that. Granted,

0:35

I found the woman of my dreams. She lives

0:37

in the same house as me. She's downstairs

0:39

right now watching our children. But

0:42

when I think of Turk and Carla,

0:45

i'm I think of Carla

0:47

and you too, Judy, as like an

0:50

ax of mine. Even though it was just work,

0:52

even though we were working together, It's

0:54

like, I have so many fond memories

0:56

and I ruined it and I and I spoiled

0:59

it by the show going off the air,

1:04

and then we were no longer together. And

1:06

I don't see her anymore. So when you see

1:08

Judy now, do you have this get the vapors?

1:11

As as as Bismarck. He said, I

1:13

caught the vapors. Oh my god.

1:15

When I'm watching Scrubs now, I'm like, oh my

1:17

gosh, she's so fine. What was I thinking?

1:20

What did I do? How did I

1:22

let that go? You know? That's okay?

1:24

Carla always knew it. Yeah, And

1:26

when do I have to do to get this guy to see

1:28

what he has? He always

1:31

you, always here and she always said it right.

1:33

Carl always says, like, if holy when

1:35

is he going to love me the way he loves j D. Here's

1:39

some stories about

1:41

show we made about

1:45

nurses. Can I

1:48

said, he's a stories around

1:54

here? Yeah, around

1:56

here. M

2:02

So listen for all of you guys who are listening right

2:05

now, you probably why don't you properly introduce

2:07

your TV A stupendous

2:11

the right word, yes, stupendous, stupendous,

2:14

fantastic, the fantastic, the

2:16

legend that is Judy Ray

2:18

is on Fake Doctors and Real Friends today.

2:20

We're so excited about it. Give it up,

2:23

incredibly introduction. This is where

2:25

we insert thunder. I've had

2:27

a loss of words. You have no idea? How

2:29

how excited I am that you

2:31

are here. I'm excited for you guys. I'm

2:34

excited for the show. You guys got bumped up to two

2:36

shows a week. I can't even catch up. Well,

2:38

we've been having fun. We never thought anyone would

2:40

really listen. We thought it would be maybe our parents.

2:43

Donald's mom doesn't even listen to my mom. I don't think

2:45

she's ever listened to I know she hasn't

2:47

listened. You know how I know she hasn't listened. This is how

2:49

I know she hasn't listened, because I'll be like, mom, and

2:51

I've already said on the podcast, I don't think

2:53

my mom ever listens to the show. Right, I was

2:55

like, Mom, have you listened to the podcast? She's

2:57

like, yeah, I listened to it all the time. And the

3:00

way I know that she hasn't and she hasn't been like, she

3:02

hasn't called me and been like, I listened to your podcast?

3:04

She has no idea. Yeah, isn't that the story

3:07

of the show. There was like congratulations,

3:09

but nobody's watched the show until like twenty

3:11

years later, when now it's like a legend. Television

3:15

folklore where everybody's like, oh my god,

3:18

you don't understand I grew up on your show,

3:20

and the it's like, wow, okay, right when

3:22

you hear that, it's like, well, how come y'all didn't show up

3:24

in the ratings then that well, they did

3:26

in the beginning. I was just looking back. This is

3:28

back in two thousand when there was no streaming competition

3:31

and people actually did watch the show. I mean,

3:33

there were a lot of people watching the show in the beginning,

3:35

especially you know, we we we always

3:37

joked that we barely survived, that we were always moving

3:39

around time slots and everything. But this was still

3:42

like at a time when Joel

3:44

you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think like eleven

3:46

million people or something we're watching these episodes

3:48

when we followed Yeah, when we

3:51

followed Frasier, we were at

3:53

eleven or ten million. But when

3:55

this season two or three, when we started

3:57

following Friends, we at one point

3:59

we had liken million people watching our

4:02

show. I don't know, but it's just so funny. You never get

4:04

no one ever gets numbers like that anymore.

4:06

But back in two thousand one, you could have eleven million

4:08

people watch your TV shows. Well, because there were only

4:10

three television networks right there was ABC,

4:12

NBCCBS and like Fox

4:15

and and Fox and then show Time

4:17

and HBO. There were only a

4:19

certain number of shows that you can watch. And

4:21

now, you know, like we were saying before, people

4:24

are actually coming to us and

4:26

texting us and through social media

4:28

letting us know that we particularly

4:30

in these times, that our show literally

4:34

changed their lives and influence and affected

4:36

the choices that they made um

4:39

for a living. And that's really

4:41

really moving. Yeah, so yeah,

4:44

you're absolutely right. It feels so warm and fuzzy

4:46

inside when you know you read your

4:48

comments and you post a picture of your kids

4:50

and stuff like that, and they're like, that

4:52

doesn't look like Carla.

4:56

Yeah, Donald always gets

4:59

that look like Carla had them kids. That's

5:02

why I always I'm always like wow that the show

5:04

hits so hard and so many

5:06

people that when I post pictures

5:08

of my family or post pictures,

5:11

you know, of us at a

5:13

holiday, and you know, during holiday, the

5:15

first thing that comes up that don't

5:17

look like Carla.

5:20

I was working when I started working in out

5:23

of state, which is right after Scrubs

5:25

where all shows are being shot like in Vancouver

5:28

or Atlanta or Neural is

5:30

it so,

5:34

Judy wait, I was gonna say, Donald, if you don't

5:36

mind, and um, Judy, We've

5:39

we've been asking everyone that comes on the show, all

5:41

the cast members, their their auditions story,

5:43

because I think listeners are

5:46

imagine interested in that. I hope they're interested in that,

5:48

but maybe I don't really know

5:50

yours. I know Donald Sarah's. So I'd

5:52

love to hear your story about how the

5:56

script initially came to you and what your audition

5:58

process was like in New York and was working

6:00

I had done gosh, I don't know I've

6:03

done like this was must have

6:05

been like my seventh pilot audition.

6:07

I've done all about six pilots

6:10

before this that never went that

6:13

never got picked up. So by the time

6:15

I got to this one, I was just like, you know,

6:18

ready for it not to go as well. But it

6:20

was such a good pilot and and Carla

6:22

had these two great monologues in the in

6:24

the pilot one where where I

6:27

go off right and whenere I go off

6:29

on Dr cox Um. And

6:32

I was, you know, I was part of a theater company,

6:34

and I was just so prepared to just nail it

6:36

and walk out and get a and I got you know, you get

6:38

a flee free flight to l A. You

6:40

had to stay in a fancy hotel, but the

6:42

most important thing was to just like work on

6:45

it really hard and go get

6:47

out of the room feeling good. Wait, you weren't

6:49

living in You weren't living in Los Angeles?

6:51

No, No, I was in New York. I was living

6:53

in New York. Was your first audition at

6:56

at thirty rock or something for? Yeah,

6:58

my first edition was at Dirty Rock

7:00

and I did really well. And all

7:02

I just kept getting was these feedback from my manager,

7:05

Gene Fox. You're a manager? Was yes, yes,

7:07

um, not at this, not

7:10

doing this, but you were not at this time.

7:12

But yes, But we did have the same manager back in the

7:14

day yet when we were younger, right, because she

7:16

most mostly represented kids and I always

7:18

played really young and earlier in my career.

7:21

But I remember being really excited to get

7:23

this flight to l A and staying in a fancy

7:25

hotel and all this stuff, and uh and

7:27

uh. I remember somebody giving me a note

7:30

to tell its like, before you start your your

7:32

scene, just take his breath and look

7:34

at everybody in the room

7:36

and then start right.

7:39

So I just that's good advice. Hey,

7:41

and I, and I really did, and I felt and

7:43

they were like, think three other women,

7:46

did you know them? I didn't know anybody.

7:49

I just remember who was the casting director for that. I knew

7:51

the casting director because I auditioned him all the time.

7:54

And and I didn't even know any of the actresses,

7:56

which was strange because all Latina actresses

7:58

don't know each other. And I think I was the only

8:00

one from La who was flown in and

8:03

I felt like I had a really good chance, but I didn't

8:05

attach myself to anything. Um,

8:07

what scenes did you do? Do you remember what scenes

8:09

you did? From the pilot? All the scenes that

8:11

Carla had, which was like the

8:14

one where I go he hits something and the one to Dr

8:16

Cox. I don't remember any of this stuff.

8:20

Don't worry. Don't worry, Donald, I don't remember anything

8:22

either. I watched this episode that

8:24

we're talking about twice, yes, same here,

8:26

because I remember. I what I remember

8:28

it is like in the first season, I had this one

8:30

big, big episode with you where

8:33

we go to see that to the photography exhibit

8:35

that's called my nickname, And I was sure that that's the what we're

8:38

going to talk about today, Like, wait a minute, we're not

8:40

doing my nickname. No, No, we were

8:42

one one time. One day. Judy will get more

8:44

organized and like book people for the times

8:47

they have their big episode. But I think you have a really

8:49

nice arc in this episode. So I do, and that's why I wanted

8:51

it was like, this is really great. I'm excited

8:53

to talk about. We just want to have you on. But

8:55

I but I remember taking

8:57

that moment and looking at all these people. It's

8:59

like in my head, I was like, funk, there's a lot of people

9:02

in here. And I looked at all of them. I was like,

9:04

no pressure, right, and they just fell

9:06

out laughing and build the loudest

9:09

and I felt really relaxed and I just they

9:11

laughed at every single thing I did. And I was like, I'm

9:13

fine. And I walked to

9:15

the elevator and before I got to the elevator,

9:18

the casting and I I wanted to tell

9:20

you something. Hold on a second before they call the other girl,

9:22

and I was like, you're good. I

9:24

was like, oh, oh shit, like

9:28

when you like remember it was

9:30

Brett or Debbie, one of those yeah,

9:33

and she took you aside. She took me aside.

9:35

At the elevator. I was like amazing. You would really

9:37

good, And I said I wasn't sure what that meant,

9:39

but I was like and by the time I got to

9:41

the airport, I was like, you got it. That's

9:44

so awesome. Oh my god. So

9:47

on your way back, how much did you drink in

9:51

celebration? I

9:53

was like, They were like, do you want a champagne

9:56

or orange juice? Or I was like, can I

9:58

have them both in one glass? It's

10:01

just like most. I was like, yeah, that's give

10:03

me one of those. And

10:05

I was like, you want to know. IM was like yeah,

10:08

oh man, that's amazing.

10:11

And then so you had to go back to well it

10:13

was just the pilot, so I guess you you weren't planning

10:15

on moving. You just kind of came out for the pilot, then

10:17

came out for it, came out for the pilot, and then you know, by

10:19

the time we got picked up. Okay, so do

10:22

you remember upfront at

10:24

all? I didn't. I

10:26

get hammered, And that's what I'm asking.

10:28

We all did, But that's what I'm asking. Do you remember

10:31

I remember being um on a switch.

10:36

Donald told this story where you're on But it

10:38

was more than a swings, you guys. It was

10:40

for some reason, this bar we were in had a trapeez

10:43

in it. It's really not safe. I want to swing

10:45

and my and my ex husband

10:48

had to take me home. Yes, I

10:50

remember who was the executive,

10:52

tall guy and he

10:54

he had a snot on his

10:56

nose and I was like, you got a booger?

11:01

And you were like and Bill was so impressed.

11:03

It was like you the only person I know who would

11:05

tell, like the head of a network that he has.

11:09

I was like, but what don't you what don't you want

11:11

to know? Yourse? I

11:13

loved it. On one side of that party, Donald's giving

11:15

Jeff Sucker a noogie. On the other side of

11:17

the party, you're telling another executive he has a booger on

11:19

his nose. And Bill had told us

11:22

all like, guys, do not get too drunk

11:24

at this party. Just couldn't be important

11:26

executives here. We got wasted.

11:28

Sarrow was wasted.

11:31

Do you remember her famous phrase, Judy

11:33

At that party, she she walked up, had

11:35

a Cosmopolitan. It's

11:38

so good. I was like she

11:42

was she was walking sideways. I just

11:45

remember she was like on a diagonal.

11:48

I told her. I was like, I like,

11:50

um, martinize, you know what my friend,

11:52

Richard Petros Sally says about Martiniz.

11:55

Martiniz are like one's not enough,

11:57

threes too many? I

12:04

want that on a T shirt. What

12:08

was your first impression of meeting Donald?

12:10

Like, because you knew he was going to be your your love

12:12

interest? And then I did you meet him at

12:14

the table read thing that we did at Bill's house? Did

12:17

I go to the table read? Maybe? Because maybe

12:19

because you flew in? So

12:22

where did you meet Donald? I

12:24

met him on set? That's I told you this story,

12:26

dude, Like, I want to hear it for Judy.

12:29

Sorry that we had that makeout

12:31

scene. We had the makeout scene and

12:34

you had smoked cigarettes right before. Donald's

12:36

already complained that you were smoking. Yes,

12:38

and of course, okay, but since then we

12:40

smoked so many cigarettes together. But

12:43

what I do remember is that we had that makeout

12:45

scene and I was completely I felt

12:48

Donald. This Donald, You what you see is what

12:50

you get. He's the sweetest, kindest,

12:53

relaxed, but very professional guy,

12:55

right and I felt very comfortable with Donald.

12:58

And we had this makeout scene and

13:00

I don't think that I've ever had a

13:03

kissing scene like that before. We're,

13:05

you know, we're just like making out and

13:08

I stuck my tongue at his mouth. Yeah, and

13:10

then he went and then everybody who

13:12

did that a lot, and then

13:15

Donald started with Judy. Didn't Donald start walking around

13:17

bragging everyone like I got but

13:20

the first time. I did it the first

13:22

time, right away, right immediately.

13:24

But but he told like the whole fun and

13:28

then he ruined it for nine years. But the

13:30

whole time, the rest of it, the rest. But because

13:33

I was embarrassed, I was embarrassed. This

13:35

motherfucker goes it goes. Yo,

13:37

you stuck your tongue in my mouth. I

13:42

wasn't supposed to do that. I didn't know.

13:47

So Donald, you in one moment, you

13:49

have this beautiful woman, she's giving

13:51

you first on screen

13:53

kiss, and then you blab

13:56

about it and then you never got tongue again, did you.

13:58

Well, no, she did it a couple of times. Hold

14:00

on, now, yeah you did. I

14:03

could, I could show you the episode because I remember

14:05

one episode we're making out and

14:07

the girl I was dating at the time was like, well,

14:11

this is awkward, and

14:13

it was. And it was like the scene where

14:15

we're supposed to be making out, it is supposed to be a wet,

14:17

sloppery kiss. And stuff like that, and j

14:19

D even says something about that about

14:21

our making out because scripted,

14:24

right, but you know what I did that

14:26

wasn't that girlfriend mature

14:30

slower than than girls

14:32

do. It's just that simple women were sure faster.

14:35

I just remember thinking like I would never brad

14:37

it out, not gonna

14:39

I remember thinking like, that's not gonna end. Well, Donald,

14:43

no, it did. It didn't. Well immediately,

14:45

no, But that was really embarrassed about

14:47

it, because it just it was. It was just

14:51

instinctual. I was like, okay,

14:54

so before Donald, before Donald ruined

14:56

it, it was a good kiss. I imagine it's

14:58

a good kiss. I'm a great oh

15:01

ship Donald up. I did

15:03

suck up

15:06

many years. Like

15:08

I said, I look back at it now, like what was I

15:11

thinking? Dude? What a dummy?

15:13

Listen. The whole crew was

15:15

was like what are you thinking? Yeah, it's

15:19

like that thing in Scrubs where they where they get the opera

15:21

singer who goes mister that

15:28

Kevin Sorbos, that Kevin Sorbo

15:30

story. Have you heard that? Which

15:32

one is that one? You know how they put in parentheses

15:35

the direction that you're supposed to do, and then

15:38

underneath it usually is the line, Yeah,

15:40

the parenthetical, right, and in

15:43

that it said disappointed. That

15:45

was like the last thing underneath

15:47

the line that he has, so like the line was something

15:49

like, this isn't my world, this isn't my

15:51

place. And then in that thing it says

15:54

it says disappointed. So he's supposed to say

15:56

all of this disappointed, and

15:58

he it's trying to

16:00

figure out a way to muster up the disappointment.

16:02

Now this is all folklore, this is all this

16:05

might not be true, and he trying to figure out out a

16:07

way to mustard up. He goes disappointed.

16:17

I love those Hollywood stories where you hear something

16:19

in some actor said you have no idea what's true or

16:21

not, but they're they're funny to hear. I

16:23

know one with Christina Ricci. Apparently she

16:26

was I have no again, I have no idea this is true.

16:28

But I heard the story that she was getting all this direction,

16:30

the director was going into all this elaborate stuff, and

16:32

she looked at him and said, look more happy

16:34

or more sad at

16:36

the end of the day, right, which, when you think about it, it's

16:38

pretty great. It's pretty Let's just just break it all

16:40

down. Do you want it more happy or do you want it more sad?

16:44

That's very Wednesday of her. Yeah, I

16:46

don't want to hear your elaborate Your direction

16:48

is so confusing. Do you want me happy or Saturday?

16:54

But I know the day that's like very Carla and

16:56

Turk, isn't it. It's like, why are you doing?

16:58

You just ruined it for the rest of our relationship.

17:01

Well, you were such a you two had such a great relationship

17:03

on the show, and I think so many people

17:05

were genuinely invested in you too,

17:07

which is just such a testament to how how

17:10

good your chemistry was and of course how good both

17:12

of your performances were, but just so so

17:14

cute also, like just so like

17:17

Carla and Turk together was like that's

17:20

definite relationship goals for me,

17:22

Like if my relationship was like that. But

17:25

you know, it's so much so that it

17:27

kind of is like that when you when you really think

17:29

about it, you know, my wife

17:32

is the boss of this,

17:34

you know what I mean. Carla was the boss,

17:37

you know what I mean all the way up into how

17:39

she made the guy ask her

17:42

out, you know what I mean, She got him to

17:44

the point where he was she offered

17:46

sex to him, and he declined, you

17:48

know what I mean. He declined

17:50

because he was afraid to ruin

17:53

the relationship because he saw where

17:55

it was going, you know what I mean. And that's just so particularly

17:58

in this episode where Carla foks

18:01

up so bad and she goes to Turk,

18:04

where he's exemplary more

18:06

than where Carla talks a lot, and

18:08

she uh, she she's just strong,

18:11

which she falls apart, and she goes to him and

18:13

she sees what he does, you know, he walks

18:15

the walk and she just does what he does at

18:17

the end of the day, you know, and she

18:19

sees, she sees how strong um

18:22

Turk is as well, and she she

18:24

goes by his example. Jude, do

18:26

you think that you um, I mean, I'm sure this has

18:28

come up for you and I hear it all the time that you

18:31

inspired a lot of people to become

18:33

nurses, which must be a pretty incredible

18:35

thing, because I just I when I watched the show,

18:37

especially now back and having some experience

18:39

in hospitals with with sick family members, I'm

18:42

so aware of the power of the nurses

18:44

and how the nurses are running the whole show. And

18:47

to me, when I rewatched this, Carla

18:49

was just just the exemplar of

18:51

of of the most amazing nurse

18:53

there ever was. And I just wonder what your experience

18:56

of of people men and women coming up to you and

18:58

saying you may have inspired them to to go do

19:00

it. I think that's true.

19:02

Well, I don't know what the has I think that people who may have been

19:04

considering a career in medicine, they

19:07

got that extra push from seeing a character

19:09

like Carla and Alma

19:12

and a show like Scrubs. Do

19:14

you know what I mean? And the strength of someone

19:16

like that, and and the true

19:18

power of those of those people

19:21

in that profession, do you know what I mean?

19:23

Where people find, you know, the glory

19:25

in in in the doctors, for

19:27

example, that they

19:29

don't know that you cannot have those doctors without

19:32

the nurses. I remember um having that conversation

19:34

with Bill one time where he wanted to explore

19:37

the idea of Carla wanting to pursue

19:39

a career as a doctor, and I was like,

19:41

uh no, I wasn't

19:44

interested in that, because it's I think Carla

19:46

loves being a nurse, and I love you know, that's

19:48

where her strength and her power, and her

19:51

vanity and her ego live. And I

19:53

think that she's really okay with that, do

19:55

you know what I mean? And uh, and the dynamics

19:57

of the relationships with every with

20:00

her and everyone in the hospital are

20:02

our strongest there, you know what I

20:04

mean? And that there's nothing wrong with that, and that and

20:06

her viewing audience, and for me as a Latina,

20:09

all these Latinas find strength and uh,

20:12

well there's a lot of a huge

20:14

force with people and women,

20:17

uh and women of color in particular, and

20:20

particularly at that time. I wanted to segue

20:24

into this episode. Actually it

20:26

is. And also I just want to point out Joel because she's

20:28

such a good producer. Sent me this

20:31

statement, sent us this. The Annenberg

20:33

Inclusion Initiative at the University of Southern

20:35

California released a study in two thousand nineteen

20:38

that said, quote Latino actors

20:40

represented only three percent of

20:43

lead or co lead roles in top

20:45

performing movies during the last

20:47

twelve years. That this is movies, not TV, but

20:49

it's the same thing. What impression do you

20:51

think Carla left on your community? Which

20:53

I thought was a really smart question that I have

20:55

to give Joel a credit for. I think

20:57

it left a huge impression. I get again,

21:00

I get it all the time. And I think

21:02

people built on it. A lot of roles

21:05

were designed on Carla as a

21:07

result, you know, a lot of strong,

21:09

sassy roles as a result of

21:12

that. Um, but not, I mean,

21:14

you know, you weren't a caricature in any

21:16

sense, not in any sense. Yeah, I thought it's

21:18

a testament to the writing, absolutely obviously,

21:20

And it's and I think it's been challenging to

21:23

find characters and roles

21:25

that have been as strong

21:27

and as memorable since. You know,

21:30

I know it's hard for me to find roles that

21:32

has been as strong and as memorable since and

21:34

and for me to find you, just like you were talking

21:36

and that and that um the podcast

21:39

that I was listening with you guys and Bill, that

21:42

people want like a phase

21:44

on type of character. You know,

21:46

they're built on because that's the power

21:48

and the force of a very well written, very

21:50

well acted show where you're trying to

21:52

just build on the kind of actor

21:55

that you are, but moved past that

21:57

is a real challenge because it's hard to find

22:00

written roles. But yeah, and

22:02

and the discussions and the arguments

22:05

of the debates that you have with the writers to keep

22:07

it real and keep it honest, keep it

22:09

flawed, keep it complicated,

22:11

um, which is all that Bill

22:14

and the writers responded to really honestly,

22:17

you know. And Bill responded to what

22:19

I said, you know, let's keep her a nurse because you know that's

22:22

where the challenges in the hospital environment

22:24

living. And he was really respectful of your input,

22:26

I think, and and all right, Um,

22:28

we're gonna go to commercial because that's what we're supposed

22:30

to do. Donald, I thought we were going to go into

22:33

the episode we're going to. But I'm seeing a

22:35

chat from from the producers. This is

22:37

like the longest do you ever look

22:39

at the chat supposed to talk about

22:41

the show? Though? I know, bro, but listen, Judy

22:44

is entertaining as hell, and we're gonna go.

22:46

I'm not saying it's her fault. Why are you yelling

22:48

at all of us? It feels like them.

22:53

We'll be right back stri

23:01

tea No Judy. Donald. I'm a little worried

23:04

because we're only like eight episodes

23:06

in and Donald has taken to day drinking only

23:09

on only on shoot days only. I

23:11

have a feeling by the time we get to like episode

23:13

twenty, he's gonna be the hammer like and another thing,

23:16

he's gonna be screaming. By episode

23:18

eight, they'll be like, what shure,

23:24

We'll be off and shirt will be off. Do you remember

23:26

that time, Judy, we were all at a bar like,

23:29

No, I won't tell the whole story. I

23:31

won't tell the whole story, but all I know is that Dolly

23:33

got drunk enough so that his shirt was off in the bar,

23:35

and I just was ice bar too. It was an

23:37

ice bar, so it's it's there's

23:40

a room where you go in and it's nothing but ice.

23:42

And I went in that room shirtless and

23:44

drank. No, but you were walking around

23:47

the part. I mean, this was just hilarious now I think about

23:49

it. It was it was our whole cast and crew, and we

23:51

were all partying. I don't know if it was a rap thing

23:53

or whatever, but all of a sudden I look

23:55

over and Donald was drunk enough so that he

23:57

was like having animated discus

24:00

Russians without his shirt on in

24:02

the bar. Exact

24:04

that you remember that, remember,

24:07

because I did some nodi. I did some stupid

24:09

things and my then girlfriend

24:11

now wife showed up to surprise

24:13

me, and I was acting a fool

24:16

at the bar. She

24:18

had evidence. Oh yeah, it's such

24:20

a good story. But I don't know if there were. I

24:22

don't know. If I don't know. You asked Casey if we can have permission

24:24

mable till on a later episode. Yeah, I'll

24:27

ask her. Yeah. But in the meantime, just know that

24:29

Donald got in trouble and also headed shirt

24:31

off. Oh my gosh,

24:33

you bring them at the time Donald got in trouble. That's

24:36

like, that's a lot that happened

24:38

a lot. That's what I'm saying. Every episode

24:41

got trouble and took off clothing.

24:45

Yeah. And when Donald would yeah, he take his clothes

24:47

off, and then if he got to the next level drunk, he'd leave

24:49

angrily and like sometimes you leave angrily

24:51

with no shirt on? Yeah, right, yo,

24:54

dude, that hell, that's

24:56

just donaldis right,

24:59

he wants I told him so Mad. We won't go into

25:01

this story. All of it is says

25:03

that he walked. We live we both

25:05

lived at the time in the Hollywood Hills, and he

25:08

once walked home, walked

25:10

home no shirt on from

25:12

Brea and Melrose up into

25:14

the Hollywood Hills. Like there's there's no sidewalks,

25:16

Like people don't walk where this

25:19

is where Donald walked, and he was power walking

25:22

like arms flying, mad

25:24

naked doesn't naked.

25:27

But I was mad like that, you really mad.

25:30

Yeah, it's a long story. That's a long story.

25:32

Some of these stories we have to censor. Should we get

25:34

into the episode, we should totally get into that. I

25:37

just wanted to say the first thing that I noticed, and is

25:39

that Donald's CPR at

25:42

forty eight seconds is I

25:44

would not bring anyone back to life. But I just want

25:46

to say something. It was a real human being. I'm not allowing,

25:49

you know, I know. I want to tell the

25:51

audience that it's a tricky thing to give

25:53

fake CPR because if you do CPR

25:55

for real, you can kill someone. So when

25:57

you watch horrible TV and movie

26:00

CPR, it sometimes

26:02

looked like this. But I just wanted to say that I thought you did a particularly

26:04

bad job. Thank you, thank you very much.

26:08

Thank you. It

26:12

wasn't the real j D there at the time

26:14

on set to approve the fame, I'm

26:16

sure. But if you look at if you look at fake

26:18

CPR all throughout medical TV shows,

26:21

there's different techniques there. But and

26:23

and you know, some people just like completely bed their

26:25

elbows so none of the pressure goes down on the persons.

26:27

Sternum I don't know what Donald's doing

26:29

here, but I just maybe j D had an emergency,

26:34

maybe he was hungover from that power. Yeah,

26:38

I don't, I don't. I don't know why this

26:40

is a highlight of this podcast

26:43

today. I'm just saying, I'm buddy.

26:45

I'm just saying, next time you do fake CPR and

26:47

one of your projects, you know you can do

26:49

better. I believe in you. Okay, let's

26:52

talk about the Holy Inferiority Complex Batman.

26:54

This is one of some people's favorite you

26:56

know what I wrote down when I saw that

26:59

that man, Robin star

27:02

Ski and Hutch Han

27:05

and Chewy Han and Luke

27:08

Turk and j D. Are

27:11

you're putting us up up there. I'm saying

27:13

we are ultimate, ultimate

27:16

dynamic duo. I want to say that.

27:18

You know, there's certain things that come up

27:20

all the time in Scrubs, fan

27:23

favorite things that they send us gifts

27:26

or they send or I see them on on the interwebs,

27:28

and this episode has a few of them. Actually,

27:31

but bat this Batman Holy Infurity

27:34

Inferiority complex um

27:36

is one of them. I think it's great because

27:38

then they at least you're not

27:40

Alfred and then you're the That's

27:49

my best Adam west impersonation ever. Two.

27:52

I don't think I could ever. Like you

27:54

know, people are like do Neil Diamond. I think

27:56

my Adam west impersonation

27:58

was better than my Neil Diamond. He was

28:00

Robin Your Your mask is

28:02

so funny. I just have it frozen on one seventeen

28:05

and I know that, like we weren't, like we weren't allowed

28:07

to do the exact costume again because it's parody.

28:09

It like has to have a little twist on it. But

28:11

your mask is so funny. It's

28:14

like Marty Gras. It's like a Marty Grab mask. I

28:16

don't know what it was. It was. It's like Marty.

28:19

Because those were the days too whenever we

28:21

have to do like the Scrubs

28:24

fantasies or whatever, where we was like, oh

28:26

are they doing the fantasy And everybody would run

28:28

down from their dressing rooms and come see

28:30

everybody and the costumes

28:33

and the fantasies. And I'd be like, it's like when

28:36

you actually get one Judy, one thing, one

28:38

thing. I hear one thing. I noticed Judy

28:41

at three three? You are you?

28:43

I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. You weren't often

28:46

in the fantasies but but this is

28:48

one because because I don't know why we can

28:50

talk about that, but this was one of the early times

28:52

where you were in there doing that throwing stars thing.

28:55

And I'll tell you because I was also listening

28:57

to when I was listening to the Bill

28:59

podcast, I remember you

29:01

know how you know how Bill always warned us not to

29:03

go and talk to him about including

29:06

or getting it because you would get paise on. And

29:09

I would be terrified of talking

29:11

to him about ship like that. It would be like, you

29:13

know, because uh, he would always

29:15

let me know a sudden your character there

29:18

would be carrying the gravitas

29:20

of the show, and I was like, but um,

29:23

I'm funny, God damn it. I'd

29:27

be worried about It's like, how do I talk to this man

29:29

about the fact that I'm funny and

29:31

I want like a fantasy

29:33

and you know, or I wanted more jokes and

29:36

ship, you know, and those would be like

29:38

and I would literally sometimes be in my

29:41

dressing room like trying

29:43

not to cry because I'm about to confront

29:45

Bill about wanting more another

29:47

joke or wanting this or wanting that, because

29:49

I wouldn't want to be paise on or some ship.

29:52

So what would you do? Would you give yourself a bit of a pep talk kind

29:54

Oh my god, yeah, and I would like cry

29:56

in my room before you know, I'd be pulling

29:58

like an Elliott in my room. Yeah,

30:02

I'd freak out, you know. And

30:04

was he receptive? He was receptive.

30:06

He was receptive, I think. I mean, I have

30:08

no idea what his reasoning was, but but it

30:11

sounds like, just from hearing you recount

30:13

it, that that Carl was

30:15

always the base

30:18

of the reality and

30:20

and the gravitas and the drama. So he

30:22

didn't want her going into being

30:24

too silly. But it's funny

30:26

in this episode. You do have some funny as shit.

30:28

I think I like the ninja stuff.

30:31

That was funny. That was walking

30:33

in with your girlfriend, laughing and everything

30:35

and then getting caught out.

30:40

Yeah, that I was gonna say. I didn't

30:43

recall. To be honest, I don't recall

30:45

a lot of I say this every single podcast.

30:48

I don't recall a lot of scrubs

30:51

when watching it. But I didn't

30:53

recall that you and Elliott had

30:56

such a rocky start. I always thought that you

30:58

guys had a great relation ship.

31:00

But I do you remember when it switched

31:03

to where you guys became Was

31:05

it early on? Because like

31:08

even in this episode, you're totally

31:12

dissing her, you know, You're like, you know, and it's

31:14

and it seems like it's always that way. She puts her foot

31:16

in her mouth and you're like, I gotta get the hell away from

31:18

this person. Uh. Carlo is like,

31:20

I gotta get the hell away. In the beginning, Sarah was pretty

31:22

disrespectful to Carla, you

31:24

know, like she um, you know, so I think

31:26

I would imagine, I mean, obviously I

31:28

want to know your answer, but that my my impression

31:30

was that she was still feeling resentful towards

31:33

towards Elliott, right, I think so. And I

31:35

think it's more like she

31:37

she doesn't get it and she never will,

31:39

you know what I mean. And I think it's j D's

31:42

um impulse always to just like

31:44

smooth things, sober over

31:46

and uh and fix things and

31:49

help other people understand that she's

31:51

really nice, just awkward. She's

31:53

always screwing things up, just like you know, trying

31:55

to help people understand or explain people

31:58

to other people, you know what I mean, And just

32:00

I got no time for this. Do you recall

32:02

when it switched over to Carla

32:04

being that person for Elliott,

32:07

you know what I mean, where Carla was making excuses

32:09

for Oh, this is just the way she is. Did it ever

32:11

switch over to that or was Carla always

32:14

I don't, I mean, I really don't. I

32:17

know, I know that it happened in this episode.

32:19

I don't know, well, in

32:21

this episode, even after you're like, I'm

32:23

sorry I did that, we all know the

32:25

truth, all right, No, nobody

32:28

want to hang out with Elliott exactly, especially

32:31

when she's rocking a neckerchief. Did you see that neckerchief?

32:37

And ka I thought that was really funny

32:39

that moment. It's around five or

32:41

so, when you guys are walking until you're going

32:43

out outfits and she's got her khakis

32:46

and her her little like Scooby

32:48

do what's the character and Scooby

32:50

Doo that has the neckerchief. It was so random.

32:53

Yeah, that was her going out outfit, so

32:58

sanitary. And then she puts her foot

33:00

in her mouth with your friend because

33:04

she has a son. Yes, she has

33:06

a son who's like really young, and she's like,

33:08

wow, way to rob the cradle. I'm

33:11

gonna be I'm gonna be honest with you. I had a lot of

33:13

issues with this episode, Uh,

33:15

as far as stereotypes go, and I know

33:18

this is the episode with Stereo about stereotypes

33:20

and everything like that, but there's just so many

33:22

things that you know, one of the lines Turk says

33:24

in the show is like, you know, all my whole life, people

33:27

always assume that I'm a good athlete, that

33:29

I uh that I that I UH

33:33

was I'm a good athlete. I grew up poor and

33:35

uh I love Sandford and Son. Those

33:38

things are kind of true about me. At

33:42

the end of the day. I'm

33:45

a pretty decent athlete. I

33:47

didn't grow up with a lot of money, and

33:50

I truly love Sanford and Son. But

33:53

it's the obvious exploitation of those things

33:56

and trying to absolutely

33:59

absolutely it's a there's a there's

34:01

a lot of deep things that that we talked

34:03

about in this episode. You know, you you

34:05

touched on it earlier, and that's why I was saying it was

34:07

such a great segue into this episode.

34:10

You know, people of color don't go to hospitals

34:12

or don't go to the doctor, you know what I mean. And it's

34:15

because they don't. My opinion is because

34:17

they don't see themselves when they go.

34:19

They see a bunch of other colors when they

34:21

go, and that can be very scary, you know what

34:23

I mean. We touch on it in this episode,

34:25

but I feel like, yeah, I understand

34:28

why Turk's upset because you know, his

34:30

face is plastered and he's being exploited

34:32

to try and bring a hip new crowd

34:35

into the hospital and everything like that. But there's

34:37

something deeper in that one. I

34:39

didn't know that Sacred Heart was in the inner City.

34:41

I had no idea that it was an inner

34:43

city hospital one this

34:46

whole time, there's so listen

34:51

right in the in the hospital, you know what I mean?

34:53

Uh and uh.

34:55

You know, at the end of the day, this

34:58

was something that really struck with

35:00

me. You know, we talked about we talk about COVID

35:02

now and how you know, people of color

35:04

are are are a very high

35:06

percentage of people that are dying because we

35:09

have so many underlying conditions and stuff

35:11

like that. But a lot of that has to do with being

35:13

afraid to go to the doctor

35:16

or to the hospital because when you go

35:18

there, they're either gonna give you bad news

35:20

or you're gonna die, you know what I mean. And

35:23

I feel like it's so

35:25

prevalent in this you know what I mean. Uh,

35:27

you know, it's we talked about it in

35:29

this episode in a small

35:31

way. But that's what I took away

35:33

from this. I took what I took. My takeaway

35:36

from this was, you know, it's

35:38

more than just being exploited.

35:41

It has everything to do with you

35:44

know, how can we make health care better for

35:46

people of color? But my first

35:48

thing was, wow, I wish we truthfully

35:51

need to figure out this health care system when it

35:53

comes to the stigmatism that

35:56

people of color have when they go to a hospital.

35:58

When I finished the episode, I was, Okay, the lesson

36:00

is nobody wants to be taking advantage of and

36:02

stand up for yourself and everything like that. I

36:05

was like, but there's something deeper in that. Also,

36:07

where the hell did this kid and I

36:09

get this fucking imaginary football from? I

36:11

just started laughing at that too, to

36:13

each other at the end of the show. I always laughing

36:15

at that too. I was like, Sweiti a second, you were stitching

36:17

him up in a in an o R and then all

36:19

of a sudden there's a football was there was on the shelf,

36:22

Like how did this? How did this

36:25

happen? By the way, and that story

36:27

and that story is pretty glossed over too. It's

36:29

like, you got knife, you

36:31

got stabbed, Yeah, you got stabbed in the

36:33

arm. Yeah, let's toss a ball. Let's play

36:35

football, now you

36:38

know what I mean. And that's what I was sitting. I was like, this

36:40

is some stereotypical bullshot. Yeah,

36:44

he got knife in the arm, and you then making

36:46

some joke like I got this from What was your joke?

36:49

Like, I, oh my my injuries from

36:51

this or something like that. Yeah, anyway,

36:54

here, Jim, here's a ball. Yeah, let's

36:56

play catch. Let's play. Let's have a catch in the

36:58

r that wrestling fantasy. It

37:00

was pretty funny. I think I'm

37:03

gonna prob. I'm gonna because

37:06

I'm the intern. I was so excited

37:08

to do that. I like pro wrestling when I was a kid.

37:11

J D. Macho Man Savage.

37:13

I accidentally freeze framed at seven oh six,

37:15

and I think it might be the most unattractive

37:18

shot of me in Scrubs history. It was like

37:20

this wide angle lens and I'm

37:22

all up close to my giant nose

37:25

and uh and your hair like show up.

37:27

You had hair like shown up from the last dragon too.

37:29

By the way, I like my hair like that. I was really

37:32

enjoying it. I mean, the wig extension, whatever

37:34

it is. I I think that they did a good job

37:36

because I wish I could rock hair like that. My

37:39

hair would never do that. It wouldn't

37:41

No, I wouldn't. It wouldn't be so glorious.

37:46

No, you have beautiful curly here on. My

37:48

hair wouldn't be like all straight and ship.

37:50

Judy talking about that bar scene at eight

37:52

oh four. Do you remember shooting that

37:54

and it's the when you when you show

37:57

up and Sarah's drinking alone? Do you remember shooting

37:59

that or and that woman that you worked

38:01

with it? I don't. I'm sorry, I don't know her name. I mean

38:03

you probably don't remember her name either, but she I thought she did

38:05

a good job. No, she was super sweet. And

38:07

I do remember like the whole idea

38:09

of doing that scene. I I

38:12

I just loved the idea of sucking

38:14

up on someone so badly, you know, and

38:17

just being so ah, so

38:20

uncomfortable around someone, uh

38:23

that you would uh hide

38:25

under a table you know, Yeah, hide

38:28

under a table, do you know what I mean? And having

38:30

to like try to find ways

38:32

to just completely avoid them because you screwed

38:35

up so badly and how I'm

38:37

telling Turk, I you

38:39

such a guy and you don't fucking understand

38:41

what's going on. And then j D comes

38:44

and I'm so sorry what I did. And

38:46

they apologized to each other like nothing happened. Do

38:49

you think that that's what? Do you think the commentary

38:52

is there? That like men can communicate

38:54

with each other? I mean what I laughed at that,

38:56

but then I was thinking, like, well, what is what is

38:58

the social commentary there? Just that just that Turk

39:01

and g D have such a close relationship and they know how to communicate.

39:04

I think so. I think they already apologize

39:06

to each other, but they want to say, listen, I hope you got me.

39:09

I'm really sorry for what happened. I didn't mean it. I

39:11

know that you didn't mean it as cool, you know

39:13

what I mean? Just right after and I think

39:15

she realizes, like shit, I really just

39:17

have to go confront her, you

39:20

know where she's trying to avoid it. I think, you

39:22

know, guys, but this, these these guys,

39:25

they're so they're such good friends that

39:27

they're going to they're not going to do that to

39:30

their friendship, you know. And he's and

39:32

and Turkey is looking off and that you know we're

39:34

getting there. She's

39:37

looking at him like, you know, go fund yourself

39:39

and we did that. There's some sound effect on our fist

39:41

bump that's like me,

39:47

you know that their friendship

39:49

isn't and healed and by no means

39:52

of friendship and and Aloma and

39:54

I love that whole and the whole nurse thing with

39:56

like Aloma being in the j

39:59

D see his his

40:01

his fucking evaluations so desperately

40:03

from Cox, I think fits into that story

40:06

so well. He's asking from Aloma

40:08

and mis Dr Cox is there and he's She's like,

40:10

can't you see I'm watching my story.

40:14

I remember that whole my stories think being so hilarious

40:16

during that episode that I do remember, and everybody's

40:19

like voting it all over the place. Aloma was so

40:21

funny. You could just give her anything and she's

40:23

just like one line and

40:25

she's just magical.

40:28

Yeah, she comes in, Um

40:30

what Carla didn't give Elliott

40:33

Laverne gave her. You know who's

40:36

my right? Played so beautiful. It's

40:38

because she just gives her. She goes, why so

40:40

sad marshamallow and then she gives her a little

40:42

hot chocolate, a little Marshmallow did

40:44

Marshmallow stick Marsha? Did

40:47

it? Did? I think it? Did? Ye think

40:49

Carla and Nurse Roberts were friends outside

40:51

of work? Yes? Yeah, absolutely, yeah,

40:55

that story never got told. I want to see and I

40:57

want to see the Nurse Roberts

41:00

Carla Vegas trip. Did

41:04

Alma ever go with us to Vegas? Did she go with

41:06

us to Vegas for the rap? I think so. I think Aloma

41:09

was. I think Aloma was religious and she wasn't.

41:11

She was staying away from that Jesus

41:14

will not be there. I know that. I

41:18

think she would have done at

41:22

the machine the whole time. But do

41:25

you remember that Vegas trip? Yeah?

41:27

We went twice? Do you know that? I

41:29

don't. We went for one

41:32

one time we went for like a birthday, and then

41:34

another time we went for Am

41:37

I wrong? I might be wrong?

41:39

I don't know. Well, we definitely went for to shoot

41:41

the thing with the Blue Man Group, and then we

41:44

stayed and had a party, right, No,

41:46

that was the rap party. Was

41:48

the Rap party and the Blue Man Group thing

41:50

the same trip. No, there

41:53

were two trips to Vegas. There were like three

41:55

or four trips to Vegas. What a

41:57

good deal, great deal? I

42:00

was the last. That's another question. When's the last

42:02

time any of you have been to Vegas. I don't

42:04

think it's wise for me to go to Vegas anymore. Yeah,

42:07

I remember when I went to Vegas, and I think um

42:10

Bill was that. I was like, I've never played poker

42:12

or I've never played routlette. It's come on, come

42:14

on, you can do it. You could do it, you could do it. And I played

42:17

and I beat him, and he got pissed that.

42:21

I remember Bill. Bill Lawrence says one of the best quotes

42:23

about Vegas that I always think about, and he goes, I've

42:25

never had a good second night in Vegas.

42:28

The thing you

42:31

gotta go and get the funk out and get out,

42:34

get out. Donald. I once went to Vegas

42:36

with Donald and many

42:39

I've been to Vegas many times with Donald. But

42:41

once he uh, We're playing black

42:43

jack and he got crushed and

42:46

he went upstairs and went to sleep. It was like

42:48

nine thirty. He was so mad

42:50

that how badly he got beaten black jack

42:52

that he just he said, and I

42:55

don't think you came back out. You went to bed. I

42:57

came out the next day. I

43:00

met you all at the pool. The next day I

43:03

had a good night's sleep. Yeah, I

43:05

wanted to say that that billboard at

43:07

night, that that that that that Kelso

43:09

has made was really up. So

43:12

nowadays that would be a visual effect, But back

43:14

in two thousand one, they made that billboard

43:16

and it was and I remember it was up for a little while,

43:19

right Donald, Yeah, I didn't realize that

43:21

the rainbow flag was behind it though. Well.

43:23

Diversity, yeah, but you know what

43:26

I thought that diversity was the fact that a white

43:28

guy and a black guy could work at the same hospital together.

43:31

Black guy was gay, not that the black guy was. Remember

43:36

I remember that they took down all the posters in

43:38

the hospital, but they left it was up up for

43:40

a while. Yeah, those were hilarious.

43:43

By the way, I wish I was when I was watching

43:45

this episode, I was going, I wish I had one of those

43:47

souvenir. Time to get to e K

43:49

G G would be hanging up in my house. Time

43:52

to get an e KG is my

43:54

favorite one. Oh my gosh.

43:57

I wanted to say that A ten of eight is when you get

43:59

mad at me. We're in a car about the billboard,

44:01

and then I do an homage to the movie Vacation

44:04

where I go rull them up. You remember that. Remember

44:07

remember in the movie Vacation when chevy Chase is

44:09

frantically they end up in a bad neighborhood

44:11

and they're stealing their they're they're tired their hubcaps,

44:14

and there's they hear a gunshot and chevy Chase

44:16

goes roll up the windows.

44:22

So I just recognized my homage to Vacation

44:24

there. And then you also said keep it

44:27

real. You also said keep it real in the scene

44:29

where you come where we apologize

44:31

to it after the fifth pump,

44:33

you said keep it real. That's a bit

44:35

of a bit of an homage too. I would say to

44:38

chevy Chase, no to clueless, oh

44:40

to clueless. Sorry, um ten

44:42

forty one. This is the Sandford and Son thing,

44:45

which is pretty funny. And I laughed

44:47

out loud when you did it, like

44:49

reluctantly you did our You're

44:51

you're sad, like I try and get you into

44:54

the Sandford something and then you sort of do

44:57

it because I can't really help it. Yeah,

45:00

yeah, but it's the it's this, it's

45:02

you had this look on your face is like so reluctant,

45:04

but you can't help it. But I can't help it. Yeah,

45:12

and then it cuts and then it cuts to as

45:15

Slapping dance where we're seeing Yes,

45:20

that's a special moment in Scrubs history with us

45:23

bull dancing and as slapping.

45:25

Bill had referenced you being on the brochure twice

45:27

when he's on this is the moment that happens. Now.

45:31

He said this was a problem that he some people

45:33

got mad about it. I'm sure people get

45:35

mad at everything, but I think this was a real story. I

45:37

think, as I understand, this was

45:39

taken from a real anecdote where a college

45:41

gotten caught putting the same person

45:44

on the short twice. We're gonna

45:46

take a quick break and we'll be right back,

45:55

and we are back, so

45:57

sure we want to jump in before we get started,

45:59

Before get started. This is Tiffany. Hi

46:01

Tiffany, thanks for being here. Hi Tiffany,

46:04

how are you? Oh my god, Oh

46:08

my god. No,

46:10

he's pretty beautiful, super excited.

46:13

Guys, Joel, what did you want to say? Bef

46:15

we want to get all this, what did you want to say? So

46:17

this is a surprise for Tiffany's husband,

46:19

so he does not know that he's

46:21

about to come on to talk to you guys. Why

46:26

that's really nice. That's really nice

46:28

of you too, So, Tiffany, he has no clue

46:30

that he's going to speak to the three of us. No,

46:32

he has absolutely no idea. Our

46:35

anniversary is on Friday, nine years when nine years

46:37

married? This year, best anniversary

46:39

present ever? Anything? Goodness

46:43

again? So what are you? Are you also

46:45

in your closet? Yes? Phase on style

46:48

right, no doubt, and Judy

46:51

rays style is j is in her closet?

46:54

Now, Tiffany, what are you gonna tell him? Are you going to

46:56

say that you guys get on his zoom? Are

46:58

you gonna be like yo, get your ass? Has it right

47:00

now? Get him the closet now, don't

47:02

don't that he'll be disappointed if he finds out it's us

47:04

and his wife's lowing into the closet. Yeah,

47:06

he has, He has no idea. I had to come up with

47:08

a very elaborate ruse to try to work

47:11

all this out. I'm a horrible liar. So he either

47:13

thinks I'm having some kind of breakdown or hiding

47:16

something from him. So with the big reveal is going to

47:18

be fabulous. So what's the plan? How do we best

47:20

review? How do you do this? I don't

47:22

know, he thinks I'm in the closet right now on an important

47:24

work phone call, and so I was going to go out there and say

47:27

I need tech support. I can't um,

47:29

I can't log into the call. Do it

47:31

go, do it go, do it right now? Are

47:33

you ready? Are you ready? Gosh?

47:35

Okay, I might cry, guys, and I'm an ugly crier,

47:38

you know, just fair warning. Looks like I got hit in the face

47:40

with a suck marble, So don't worry. Nobody's gonna

47:42

be a's gonna virtually

47:44

hug you. And we're fake doctor, so we're

47:47

used to. So we're kind of used to. Yeah,

47:49

we see lots of fake emotion. Yeah. Nice,

47:51

Okay, I'm gonna be back. This is exciting.

47:54

Good work, Joel, good producing, Joel.

47:56

This is this is this really added a little little

47:59

spice. I'm nervous, are you

48:01

guys nervous? I don't want him

48:03

to be disappointed. What if he's like, oh, I thought Donald's

48:05

drunk. He doesn't feel any Yeah, Donald

48:07

seem drunk. Hold on, guys, I've

48:10

got a nice little buzz going. Oh god,

48:13

I'm really to be quiet. I'm

48:15

really stressed out. These are just my my coworkers

48:18

that are from from the call. Hi, Hi,

48:24

your co workers? Oh my god, can

48:26

you help us with this? I mean, I'm sorry,

48:29

can you help us with this? They

48:32

like, happy anniversary?

48:35

This, this is for you, This

48:37

is for you. Yes, come sit down, Come

48:40

sit down for don

48:43

join us. Leave your

48:45

cheese to sound. Do

48:48

you know what two days

48:50

is? It's your

48:52

anniversary? Oh

48:54

my god, they're crying. Anniversary. You

48:57

guys can hug Oh

49:01

now they're hugging you guys and they're hugging,

49:05

trying. This is so beautiful.

49:08

He seems to be crying. How did you

49:15

um? This

49:17

is how? This is how I went down. Your

49:20

wife called Disney Studios and

49:22

was like, I need a favor and

49:25

Disney Studios provided that's

49:27

not true at all. That's not true your amazing

49:29

wife podcast

49:32

and uh and and we're we the three of

49:34

us, Donald face On, Judy Rays and

49:36

I Zach Braff are your

49:39

anniversary present. You can thank I Heart

49:41

Radio, you can thank Joel,

49:44

and you can thank Dan and Tiffany Rodriguez,

49:46

Donald, Tiffanye and More's most

49:49

importantly, you thank your wife.

49:53

Do you want to do you all want to hug hu

49:57

again? Oh my god, Oh

49:59

my God, you want to This

50:01

is so exciting. Joel's

50:04

crying everybody, I'm not.

50:07

I'm not crying. Well, you will be when

50:09

I cry. I'm not gonna cry. Well anyway, Hire

50:12

that you like our little TV show, and we just

50:14

wanted to say, have the anniversary, and if you wanted to

50:16

ask us anything or anything,

50:19

We're here to answer questions. It could be about

50:21

the show, so it could be about your life whatever you want.

50:25

Feel like, I feel like Turk when you met Lando, I

50:32

mean, Chris Man,

50:36

don't do it. Don came in the Lando. You

50:40

know, here's a little, here's a little, here's

50:42

a little trivia. I

50:45

was doing, uh like a celebration.

50:47

So Star Wars has a celebration every

50:49

uh year, right, And I was

50:51

doing a celebration one of the celebrations because

50:53

I voiced one of the

50:55

characters on a Star Wars television

50:58

show. And somebody

51:00

told me that Billy d Williams was next

51:02

door and that I should go say hi to

51:05

him. And I got really excited. I

51:07

was like, oh, snap, Billy, do you want to

51:09

say hi to me? Okay, let me go and say hi. So

51:11

I walked into the room and you

51:13

know, there's a bunch of people in line and they're waiting to

51:15

say hi to Billy D and take picture with him.

51:17

And I walked into and got

51:20

out in and he

51:22

jumps and then he looked over at

51:24

me and he's like the lines over

51:26

there, Oh

51:31

my god, Oh my god, you must have been crushed.

51:33

He's like, you broke my heart. It broke my

51:36

heart in your mind, my heart in your

51:38

mind. You thought he was going to be like, do come

51:44

over? Oh

51:46

my god.

51:50

Any So, if you have any questions

51:52

that you want to ask, don't be don't

51:54

be shy. Tell us

51:57

your favorite guest star. I guess,

52:00

favorite guest star, favorite guest star. Do

52:02

you want to go first? As since you're our favorite

52:04

guest ever I

52:07

had I could tell you the first most shocking

52:09

guest star because I don't know.

52:11

I'm like um lack. I don't necessarily get

52:13

star struck. But I remember the

52:15

first time I remember we had Ericastrada,

52:18

Yes, and he

52:21

was on the You guys remember Eric Ostrada

52:23

from Chips. For those of

52:25

you out there who don't who don't remember the show

52:27

Chips, Uh, there was a actor

52:30

on the show by the name of Ericastrada who was America's

52:32

heart throb back in the day. Yes,

52:35

and he wasn't supposed to be the story guy

52:37

who was supposed to be the show who knows that nobody

52:39

remembers his name? Remember,

52:42

now that's a character's named. Erica Strada is actual

52:45

name of the dude who played punch too. Well,

52:47

can you tell us his name please? I feeltrict

52:51

for myself too, But nonetheless, one

52:53

I came into hair and makeup and and

52:55

there was Erica Strata getting his and

52:58

he was just doing like a you know, like

53:00

a real quick guest appearance. And I saw

53:02

him. I was like, by

53:04

just standing in the same room with this guy, couldn't

53:06

even speak, And now I have a big giant

53:09

I did. I remember Wayne Brady

53:11

had a talk show at that

53:13

time, and I told him that

53:15

story and he gave me a giant poster

53:19

of eric Estrada that I still have in my garage

53:21

of Eric Estrada hot pants. Yeah,

53:23

I remember. I remember that eric a Strata

53:26

were really tight, tight motorcycle

53:28

pants. They all did the

53:31

Wilcox Larry

53:33

Willox, Larry Wilcox,

53:35

Yes, the apologies, Lets

53:38

all right, you're not you didn't didn't have his name, but we want

53:40

to make sure we get it out there to respect all members

53:42

of the Screen Actors Guild. Donald,

53:44

Who is your favorite guest star? Billy

53:47

d Williams. Obviously, I really

53:49

enjoyed when Colin Farrell

53:51

came on the show. Colin

53:54

Farrell. I love that scene. All

53:56

of us men and women almost made up with him. Yeah,

53:59

Sarah really early was excited to make

54:01

out with him. And then of course Brendan

54:03

Frasier man like oh

54:05

and also and also Ryan Reynolds. Uh,

54:07

you're supposed to pick one if

54:10

I have to. If I have to pick one, the exercise

54:12

was to pick one, not just kissing off famous

54:14

people. Oh

54:17

well, then for me it

54:19

would have to be, uh, Billy D Williams.

54:22

For me, it was John Ridder, hands down,

54:26

Because John Ridder when I was a kid. You'll hear me

54:28

say this over and over again. I my intro

54:30

to physical comedy was Three's Company. I just

54:33

thought that was the funniest ship

54:35

I had ever seen in my life. And John

54:37

Ridder doing physical comedy

54:40

was just he could

54:42

fall over a couch like like no one, and

54:45

I just thought he was a master. And then so when

54:47

he came on to play my father, I

54:49

was just gushing. I was just I loved him

54:51

so much. And in fact, he was supposed

54:54

to come back for the second time.

54:56

Literally he was gonna shoot Monday,

54:58

and I believe he died um

55:01

that weekend, the weekend of the week the he

55:04

died the if not the night before. No,

55:06

yeah, he was supposed to come in and he passed

55:08

away after they rapped or

55:10

while they were making the show that he

55:12

was on at the time, and he was gonna come and do our

55:14

show the next day. And and it's

55:16

really amazing how quickly Tom Kavanaugh,

55:18

who was not scheduled to be on the show, showed

55:21

up to be on uh the episode,

55:24

and how they changed around and making that so

55:27

that John Ritter's character had passed

55:29

away on the show as well, if they had to frantically

55:31

rewrite it. But that that's mine. I

55:33

mean, I'm literally getting goosebumps as I tell this story.

55:36

Just and I and I had him.

55:38

I have a framed wall on my on my my

55:40

house of all these framed family pictures, and um

55:43

Donald's on there a few times, of course, and

55:45

there was literally one of the most prominent

55:48

pictures was a picture of me and John

55:50

Ritter, just because he was just so

55:52

important to me and I I loved

55:54

him a lot. I remember when he said my name

55:56

the first time and it caught me. It kind of caught me

55:58

off guard, you know what I mean? I was, holy cow,

56:01

John ridden knows my name? You know what I mean? I as

56:04

you did, Zach. I also grew up on Three's

56:06

Company, and uh yeah,

56:10

that that's a that's a you know what. As

56:12

much as I love Billy D. Williams, meeting

56:15

John Ritter was and Michael J. Fox

56:17

also were highlights for me. Yeah,

56:20

all right, how about another question? Because

56:22

now that it looks like your face has has settled

56:24

in a little bit, you're not stunned as much anymore,

56:28

you know, your eyes aren't.

56:32

I another

56:35

I don't know if I have another question, Tiffany. Do you

56:37

have any question? Tiffany? How about you? Um,

56:41

would you guys ever consider doing a live

56:43

taping so that we could go and see

56:46

you? And yeah, after obviously

56:48

after all the COVID nineteam stuff,

56:51

but well, you know, you know, well go

56:53

ahead, you're gonna say, yeah, Donald, Donald

56:55

want to do that. We just don't know when

56:58

all of this is going to go away on.

57:00

I mean, I don't know where you guys are. Were

57:02

in Los Angeles right now, and

57:05

we have strict policies in

57:07

Los Angeles, as we should we you know, we have a

57:09

lot of COVID patients here and

57:11

so I don't know, well even COVID

57:14

aside, there's no plans to do anything like

57:16

that. And in fact, you know, Scrubs was shot like

57:18

a film, not in from an audience.

57:20

Although as you recall, we did that, um

57:22

that one sitcom spoof where

57:24

we did it in front of a live audience. Yeah,

57:27

that was he knows the title you are good. Um.

57:30

That was a lot of fun, you know, because I never Donald had

57:32

done sidcomes before. I had never done a sitcom.

57:35

H No, I

57:38

mean I've done I did a pilot and

57:40

I did a guest and I had done theater.

57:42

But but there was it was really fun doing

57:44

that that. Do you guys remember that.

57:46

I just remember

57:48

thinking like, oh, now I see the allure

57:50

of doing this to come. It's such a high, Like the audience

57:52

is so amped up, it's like cold,

57:55

and they've got a lot of sugar and uh

57:57

and they they just laugh at whatever you do. And

58:00

and we obviously it was a well written

58:02

episode so it was genuinely funny. But

58:04

I remember really thinking like, oh, that could be fun

58:06

to do. Are you guys in the medical

58:09

industry at all? I'm just curious because

58:11

you're such enormous fans. No,

58:15

I was military for I was arming for a little bit. But

58:17

where do you guys live, Northern California,

58:20

Patterson. It's right up to five on the other side of the

58:22

Bay Area. So you guys are

58:24

in the Bay Area, we can be over in like the five

58:26

and a half hours if you guys can make us generally

58:29

anytime, anytime. What's

58:32

cooking? What you are cooking tonight? Tacos? Wednesday?

58:38

Wednesday? Over here? As really,

58:41

guys, let's head up there. We'll drive in separate

58:43

cars and we'll sit in your backyard. We

58:47

will maintain safe distancing, I promise

58:49

you. Oh my god, Well, thank you so

58:51

much for what a great surprise and uh

58:54

and our pleasure and

58:56

happy anniversary, Happy anniversary,

58:58

Tiffany, you are a good wife. I gotta say

59:00

it was a good surprise. Yeah, I'm never going

59:03

to have to buy anything ever again. I'm just gonna I'm

59:05

just gonna take a picture of that, and you know,

59:07

just like that's it every year. Remember,

59:10

take the picture. Now, let's take the picture and let

59:12

me get let me get fresh

59:16

Y, make

59:19

sure you get Joel too. And

59:21

that's how we'll always remember them. That's

59:23

how we'll always remember them. Accidentally

59:26

did airplane. I should have hurt him though, he's

59:28

like, he

59:31

screams, oh

59:34

my god, wow, this guy's You were just totally

59:36

awesome. And thank you for doing this. Where we're watching

59:39

watching the show, listening to the podcast. It's

59:41

just awesome right now. Thank you. We're

59:43

having so much fun doing it, and it means a lot to us

59:45

that that you're loving listening. And uh and

59:47

please stay safe up there and enjoy Taco

59:50

Wednesday. Be healthy

59:53

than you. Bye.

59:55

Yeah, you technically are supposed to hang

59:57

up, but you don't have

59:59

to. Can be together forever. I like

1:00:04

it. I like it, Judy, let's do that. You're

1:00:06

rocking the curly hair. No, no, but really

1:00:08

hang up now because we got the rest of the shop. Donald

1:00:13

get Rodriguez

1:00:16

is getting the funk out. No. I

1:00:19

love you, Thank you, thank you so much,

1:00:21

guys, thank you, Joel,

1:00:24

Josh. That was great. Joel, Joel.

1:00:26

I don't know how a caller can I mean, you really

1:00:28

brought it up. Did you do that? I don't know

1:00:31

how anyone's ever going to compete with that, Joey. You

1:00:33

know, I wanted to really quickly give some tips. If you guys want

1:00:35

to write in a letter, make sure your subject line

1:00:37

is just really expressive. That's going to pop out.

1:00:39

It's like, we have thousands and thousands of letters

1:00:42

for people wanting to call in, and so just

1:00:44

you know whatever, you can put your question in there, if

1:00:46

you have a good one, if you have a good story, we'll

1:00:48

probably wait till we surprise someone. So don't

1:00:51

try to set that up just yet. You know you're

1:00:53

no words top that bitches, Well,

1:00:58

listen, we should we should remind be well if

1:01:00

you do all, even though Joel's say she's getting

1:01:02

thousands of them, if you do want to ask a question,

1:01:04

you go to you write an email to scrubs

1:01:07

I heart at gmail dot com.

1:01:10

Find a way to stand out and

1:01:12

and it'll all be up to Joel's

1:01:14

eyeballs who gets to come

1:01:17

on. Don't blame

1:01:19

me if you call in, and if you try to call

1:01:21

in or you send an email and you don't get a response,

1:01:24

it's not my fault. You blame Joel. You're

1:01:26

not gonna believe this. But Donald's not the one sifting

1:01:28

through the thousands of emails. Yeah, you blame Joel,

1:01:31

You blame Joe. Well, it's fall. You

1:01:33

gotta put some face in your face, your boy. Fall

1:01:36

of banana in the tail pipe. You're not gonna fall for now.

1:01:38

Banana in the tail tipe. Wait

1:01:41

a minute, no banana no tail pipe?

1:01:43

What alright?

1:01:49

So I was gonna say something. I

1:01:51

was going to say something. Notes.

1:01:53

I'm so impressed. I always have notes from

1:01:56

I always have no time good. I didn't know that you were always

1:01:58

rocking notes. I just thought you were making drinks. They're in the

1:02:00

cloud. Boy, go

1:02:05

ahead, Dr Kelso coast t Turk

1:02:09

and this doctor Turk he calls him Dr Turk

1:02:12

now right, and not Turkleton.

1:02:14

So does this mess

1:02:17

up the lore that

1:02:19

Kelso doesn't know Turk's last

1:02:22

name is Turkleton and he's just calling

1:02:24

him Dr Turk like he would call uh

1:02:27

doctor Dorry and doctor He would therefore be

1:02:29

calling doctor dorryan Dr John. Or

1:02:33

that they decide somewhere down the

1:02:35

line, This is a good Bill Lawrence question.

1:02:37

That they decide somewhere down the line that

1:02:40

Kelso just forgot Turk's name altogether. Okay,

1:02:43

we'll ask Bill that here, Joel um, what

1:02:46

was what was the intention? I imagine that someone

1:02:48

just missed it, and uh I decided it would

1:02:50

be funny later on if if Kelso

1:02:52

had no idea what your name and thought your name was Turk Turkleton,

1:02:54

which is very funny. That's That's one

1:02:57

of the funniest. That's one.

1:02:59

That's another thing that I've really loved. I've been

1:03:02

uh spewing about

1:03:04

this, uh

1:03:07

Judy because I

1:03:09

really feel like our relationship is

1:03:11

the one. I mean, yeah, they follow uh

1:03:15

j d and Elliott throughout the show,

1:03:17

but our relationship from the gate, from

1:03:20

the beginning of the show too season

1:03:24

eight is is you

1:03:26

know, you watch it grow, and

1:03:30

by season three, when we finally get

1:03:33

into the wedding and all of that stuff, I

1:03:35

really felt like it was earned by the

1:03:37

time we got there, you know what I mean, like we

1:03:40

had been through so many that the characters

1:03:42

had been through so many things, and

1:03:44

so you know, when I look back

1:03:46

at all of this stuff, when I look back at me singing Mrs

1:03:49

Jones and you know, me hiding

1:03:51

in your in your closet at your mom's

1:03:53

house, and then when you finally decide to move

1:03:55

in, and you know, there's a breakup between

1:03:58

Turk and Carl and all of that stuff before

1:04:00

they get married. I feel like it's really

1:04:02

earned. And I don't necessarily remember

1:04:05

how the episode of us getting married

1:04:07

turns out, but I just remember it feeling so

1:04:09

epic when we were shooting it, you know what I mean, because

1:04:12

all of this stuff that we had been through and

1:04:14

the first few seasons were

1:04:16

coming to a head at at that point,

1:04:18

and I just felt like our romance

1:04:21

on the show was just you know, I said

1:04:23

it to Bill. I think I thought it was perfect. You didn't.

1:04:25

You didn't necessarily need to watch

1:04:27

the show to understand that

1:04:29

Turk and Carla were they

1:04:33

were strengthened the foundation a

1:04:36

part of that like in essence,

1:04:39

kind of like the way the episode

1:04:41

ends, Um, it's kind of like the

1:04:44

reason you belong in this place, and the way they

1:04:47

these people together like a family. It's

1:04:49

kind of like, you know, they're like that

1:04:51

parental force, the place that you belong,

1:04:53

the reason that you feel like you go there,

1:04:56

you know what I mean, like meant to be.

1:04:59

You know, this fight, the funk

1:05:01

ups and the breakups and the ups

1:05:04

and the downs. They're funny

1:05:06

together. They understand

1:05:08

each other. He's um silly

1:05:11

um, where she's a little

1:05:13

too serious because you can't have them

1:05:15

both be silly at the same time, you

1:05:18

know what I mean. She's she's got she grounds

1:05:20

she grounds him, Yeah, she grounds him and

1:05:22

she grounds like a lot of other people, you know what

1:05:24

I mean. Where she begs to be light

1:05:27

when she's not. You know, she has to like

1:05:29

loosen up sometimes, you know

1:05:31

what I mean, where she teaches people

1:05:34

about the place that they're in. You

1:05:36

know, where she where she has to be taken out

1:05:38

of there sometimes, kind of like Cox has

1:05:40

to be taken out of there sometimes, you

1:05:42

know what I mean. So it's

1:05:44

they pull each other

1:05:46

out of where they are and they bring each other to where

1:05:48

they have to be speaking of what I mean very

1:05:51

much, and you know what I mean. Remember

1:05:54

somebody asking me, you know, well,

1:05:56

what do you have in common with your wife? I

1:05:58

was like, well, I don't have that much in common with my wife,

1:06:00

to be honest with you. We do love

1:06:02

each other passionately and stuff like that. That's the

1:06:04

one thing we do have in common, but we're not necessarily

1:06:08

the same people, and I think that's very much

1:06:10

the same with Chris, Turk and

1:06:12

Carla. I think that the

1:06:15

two of them, they might be both

1:06:17

from the inner I don't even know that Turk is from the

1:06:19

Inner City. I know Carlos from the Inner City. But

1:06:22

Turk, in this episode, we discovered

1:06:24

that he was always the

1:06:27

black dude in the situation, you know what I mean, even

1:06:29

in the science fair where

1:06:31

they give him the blue ribbon

1:06:34

even though he didn't compete in the science fair,

1:06:36

and also at college because they

1:06:38

weren't a lot of black kids at the college, they put them into

1:06:40

brochure twice. But anyway, my point

1:06:42

is their personalities aren't

1:06:45

necessarily the same, but they complement each

1:06:47

other so well. Yeah, that

1:06:49

is like you and Casey. I mean, it's funny you

1:06:51

say that because you guys are so perfect together,

1:06:53

but yeah, Yang is the perfect

1:06:55

We're completely different, and I think that, Yeah,

1:06:59

I think that's what worked about Carla and Turk. Carla

1:07:01

is so serious and Turks such a

1:07:04

fucking goofball, But you put them together

1:07:06

and you get like a perfect couple. I

1:07:08

want to just touch on the scene with Johnny

1:07:10

c brates me at eighteen in

1:07:13

the conference room, I thought Johnny's performance there

1:07:15

was really really good. Uh. And it's

1:07:17

a really powerful scene. It's it's it

1:07:19

was an early moment in Scrubs where he's just laying

1:07:21

all out there. There's no score that's sort of forcing your

1:07:23

your your your emotions. It was just like

1:07:25

him just laying into me. I thought that way.

1:07:28

I thought he was really good there. I thought he was

1:07:30

great in it. And and I you know, I watched

1:07:32

it twice, the episode, and

1:07:34

I remember when I first when

1:07:38

what I do remember about the episode

1:07:40

and having seen when I saw it initially, it was

1:07:42

like it's just so hard on him,

1:07:45

you know. But I'm a parent now, and

1:07:48

uh, and I know my husband who's like coach

1:07:51

is sucker is hard like that, and

1:07:53

he's hard like that on my daughter. And

1:07:55

I get it, do you know what I mean? It

1:07:57

was like ship, I get it. You

1:08:00

know. It's like a person who wants

1:08:03

approval can be um

1:08:05

so satisfied with being liked

1:08:07

and everybody being okay with you

1:08:10

know, thinking that you're good or or being

1:08:14

approved by everyone around you, instead

1:08:16

of knowing that there the job

1:08:18

that they're doing is a good job, or

1:08:20

you knowing that what you did was well

1:08:22

done, instead of people liking you

1:08:25

or liking what you did, you know, and that's

1:08:27

a really hard place to be when you have to look

1:08:29

at yourself. You know what I'm saying.

1:08:31

I'm watching it was like ship that was so

1:08:34

good, which Johnny C is

1:08:36

Like, no one's harder on Johnny C than Johnny

1:08:38

Z. You know what I mean. Yeah,

1:08:41

he really brought it. I mean I just I thought,

1:08:43

you know, it's a pretty big speech he had and

1:08:45

he just I don't know, I got goose bumps when I was watching

1:08:47

it. But he's relentless like that. There's

1:08:49

a funny moment in when Elliott

1:08:52

offers to give your friend valium. I'm like, a doctor's

1:08:54

allowed to do that? Like your friend is upset

1:08:56

because her son got stabbed, and don't

1:08:58

worry, we're gonna set you up with a I am in an ivy

1:09:00

drip. I was like, what that's a thing that, I

1:09:03

mean, it's if it's not, it should

1:09:05

be because I would need it if my kid

1:09:07

got stabbed. I'm gonna tell you that right now. I just didn't

1:09:09

know. I didn't know if you're

1:09:12

I just didn't know if doctors are allowed to like just

1:09:14

start throwing around value for people that are upset.

1:09:16

Well, what the stuff this out? Now? That's like nothing,

1:09:19

So I'll give you two zan accent and O. He's

1:09:25

like, I'm worried. I'm worried about you. I'm gonna set you up in a

1:09:27

room with a valume and a drip. I was like, really,

1:09:29

go Elliott and in an inner

1:09:32

city hospital with people like pouring out

1:09:34

the doors. But that's

1:09:36

what's messed up. It's an inner city hospital

1:09:39

that's so heavily, that's so

1:09:41

heavily relies on insurance.

1:09:44

It was twenty years ago. Phase On just

1:09:46

saying this ship is still prevalent. This is

1:09:49

still real today. I'm just

1:09:51

keeping one. It

1:09:53

maybe the very first occurrence

1:09:55

of the sad scrubs queue.

1:10:00

Buh buh uh

1:10:06

uh. That's

1:10:08

the first time I heard it. Okay, doo

1:10:11

doo doo doo, dude. But those of your

1:10:13

excuse who don't know, this scrubs que

1:10:16

will go on for a really long time until

1:10:19

finally we started

1:10:21

making fun of it so much. Yeah

1:10:23

that j D starts commenting on the sad screw

1:10:25

right, and it gets taken out of the show

1:10:28

because of that. I think what happened was season

1:10:30

does it get taken out. I don't know. I

1:10:32

think the composer. The composer made like a

1:10:34

handful of cues, and then these guys

1:10:36

just used the same cues over and over again. There's

1:10:38

not that many, you know, when we don't use music, there's

1:10:40

not that many scrubs cues. It's like bound bown

1:10:45

that was that would

1:10:47

be like a sting when something funny happened, to just go bound

1:10:51

after something. Robert said, Mash

1:10:53

said, but nine but

1:10:56

nine and a half down, that's

1:10:59

the janitor nine but nine and a half Donald,

1:11:01

I thought that was that's the episode

1:11:04

where I have to look at the Janners. I I catch

1:11:06

a look at the janitor's penis and I and

1:11:09

I noticed that there's a mole on it and

1:11:11

I and then I have to inspect

1:11:13

it and I go it's benign, and he goes benign.

1:11:15

But nine and a half I thought that was the

1:11:18

Tide that said, that's

1:11:21

hilarious all. Like

1:11:25

I said, I don't remember this show I was on, and I don't

1:11:28

remember much about it. Well, that's the show, guys,

1:11:30

that's the episode pretty much. Judy,

1:11:33

will you will you come do this more? Because

1:11:35

I think you we really like having you on. I hope

1:11:38

I can speak for my co host Donald thing. I would love

1:11:40

it if you came back anytime,

1:11:44

and we will make that happen. And Judy, Um,

1:11:46

since you are one of

1:11:48

my favorite guests to ever be

1:11:50

on our little podcast, and also

1:11:52

because you have a beautiful voice, I thought you could be

1:11:54

the first one to ever count us in

1:11:56

to our our theme song that ends

1:11:59

the show. Donald's prefers

1:12:01

to go five six seven eight. Um, I

1:12:04

don't know how you feel you can count in any way you so

1:12:06

choose. It's five six seven eight, Okay,

1:12:09

yeah, Donald, however

1:12:11

you want to do it, it's all right with it, like six

1:12:14

seven eight. That's

1:12:16

pretty good. That'll work, That could work.

1:12:18

Yeah, okay, but let's do it for real now, Okay,

1:12:21

here we go. That was pretty good. Okay, but I want

1:12:23

to just yeah, Judy, Yes, we

1:12:25

love you. Thank you for coming on the podcast. Count

1:12:27

us into our theme song by six

1:12:30

seven stories about

1:12:33

show we made about

1:12:36

a bunch of nurses and stories

1:12:46

around here, yea around

1:12:49

here, mm

1:12:54

hmm.