0:00

I love the fact that you two went out and invested

0:02

in better microphones because you knew you're gonna be on

0:04

the podcast. Yeah,

0:07

both of y'all speaking

0:10

of recording, Well, Donald,

0:13

we handled it already. We handled it, We handled it already.

0:15

You're late. Tell Zac was what

0:17

the problem was that you sounded like shit? My

0:21

housekeeper or my kids turned the volume

0:23

all the way up to ten. Oh

0:25

okay, yeah, I'm gonna turn Should I turn mine

0:27

down to dannuld sound

0:30

sounds Donald? If you're gonna blow

0:32

out doing an Oprah voice or just going

0:35

full Donald, back up. Good

0:37

advice right there. Yeah, okay,

0:39

if you're doing one of your classic Donald

0:41

moments that's gonna make you go woozy,

0:45

you might want to just back up from the mic. And

0:47

I'm in no mood to be what

0:52

you're trying to get into a

0:54

day shoon. What you're trying

0:56

to know, let's get into the podcast.

0:59

How are you men? I'm good. I got a little

1:01

headache. I think I think may

1:04

have had one glass of wine too

1:06

many that led to a what's called

1:09

a headache. Really,

1:11

I drink a little bit of beer last night and woke

1:14

up with a little bit of a. It's

1:16

it's gone now. But it was like a little bit of a stuffy

1:18

nose, like a little bit of a

1:21

running nose. When I drink a lot of hops,

1:24

Yes, when that gets it or wheat or whatever

1:26

that is, Yes, I get a little bit of a running nose.

1:28

I've noticed, Like I drink a little bit too much

1:30

wine, I get what's called a headache.

1:33

That's because of the sugar. Though I know I

1:36

need to drink more water when you drink your wine,

1:38

of course you do, but I like it

1:40

makes me happy. By the way, a lot of people

1:42

were saying they do want to play the Bengo

1:44

game. I told you I was wrong. I

1:47

told you so. Um, let's

1:49

get some Bengo cards from that or you know it'll

1:51

be good Joel. If we could get that guy's thing

1:54

and then have it be easily downloadable

1:57

for people. Oh, I could

1:59

probably work on that, Yeah, so they can play along.

2:02

We might need different we need different Yeah,

2:04

we need different Bingo cards. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

2:06

Well, who's gonna do all that manual labor?

2:09

High fans, If you would like to make Bingo cards available

2:13

for free, you would have our never

2:15

ending gratitude. We can't pay you what

2:17

we could our gratitude and our love

2:19

and our respect, and a shout out right

2:22

here on the pot I will shout out right. Not

2:24

not only that, but if you live in

2:26

the United States of America, we will

2:28

ship to you right

2:32

So, just you know, if you're in the mood, if you got

2:34

the time, make yourself a fake Doctor's

2:36

real friends bingo cards so everyone can can

2:39

play along and somehow Joel will figure out a way

2:41

to make them available. Yes, we

2:44

can do that. We can select. We can select

2:46

a winner at random. So just making the card

2:48

does not guarantee you some GTS kombucha. Just

2:51

to clarify, I can pick one of you guys. Joel's

2:53

doing the small print now, Joe, I think it's supposed to say that, like

2:55

fast and low, like defend your card.

3:05

Um. By the way, you are allowed to go to the

3:07

UK. Donald you have to just quarantine alone

3:10

for fourteen days. It's it's it's the

3:12

uh because you know the UK left

3:15

um the EU,

3:18

so you just can't. We're not allowed to go to Europe.

3:21

I got it. Isn't that so embarrassing?

3:24

We're so bad at this that we've been banned

3:26

from Europe. Yeah, that's

3:28

how it goes. Yeah, that's how it goes.

3:31

We didn't exactly nail it. Now we

3:33

missed. We missed by a

3:36

lot. I saw this

3:38

graph. I saw this graph that showed

3:40

the first spike and then it said, uh,

3:42

it was labeled naive. And then it

3:44

showed the second spike, and it goes

3:46

stupid like

3:49

you can call the first spike naive, but the

3:51

second spike is just stupidity. Well,

3:54

you know, and I'm just

3:56

talking about this because it's it's been the

3:58

whole year so far, the

4:00

whole year. But

4:03

fucking put on a mask, guys, all of this

4:06

bullshit about I don't need to wear a mask.

4:08

Like I was watching the news and some dude actually

4:10

said the same thing that they

4:12

said in the beginning. Oh, it's just like

4:14

the flu. If I get it, you know, my

4:17

body could fight the infection. You know, I'm not afraid

4:19

of this thing. He has no idea.

4:23

Now, granted he was coming

4:25

from Arizona and going to Florida,

4:27

the two hotspots in the United States,

4:29

but still, dude, I read

4:32

in Wisconsin they're having a herd immunity

4:34

festival where people that want

4:37

to try and get it. Are all going

4:39

to meet and go to this festival,

4:41

so they think that they can get it

4:44

and create some sort of herd immunity. But

4:46

hasn't heard immunity proven not to work

4:48

with this virus. Some people

4:50

have caught it twice. Yeah, and not in

4:53

and I think in Sweden they did a whole experiment

4:55

where they weren't gonna get it. Didn't work. It

4:57

didn't work, No, and it didn't save them any

4:59

dollars for their economy either. It has

5:01

not been a success. Um,

5:04

how are you Donald? Phase on? How's I? You know

5:06

the picture you posted of your daughter in the zach

5:08

brafftowl really is a beautiful shot.

5:11

It put a tear to my eye because she's such a

5:13

beautiful child and what a glorious towel. Anyway,

5:16

how how are you? How's life over your house?

5:18

How are things different? Man? You know? Are you still

5:21

using the inflatable the kids over

5:23

the inflatable thing he bought from the backyard?

5:25

Yeah, they are. So we started to do a little bit

5:27

of golf. So you know how I saw that

5:29

picture of you and your kids all playing golf. You

5:32

know how I love to play golf, so I took them to the driving

5:34

range, and my daughter's really

5:36

excited about it. She's gung

5:38

ho about hitting balls

5:41

with dad and she you know, she's

5:43

she's picking it up. My

5:45

son, however, would rather play

5:48

video games. I made a mistake

5:50

when I was when I was a

5:52

few years ago. Well, last year I

5:55

introduced Rocco to video

5:57

games. Big

6:00

mistake. Every word out

6:02

of his mouth. Now. Now, granted, his vocabulary

6:04

has grown, uh

6:08

by leaps and bounds, but holy

6:12

cow, man, if I got to hear about, you

6:14

know, uh, Minecraft

6:17

and the Enderman and

6:19

and and Jewels and all

6:21

of that stuff. Minecraft is his favorite.

6:24

Well, no, he has three favorites. Well,

6:27

now four it's Minecraft,

6:31

Zelda, Breath of the Wild. I

6:34

see Joel loves Breath of the Wild. This

6:36

is a child of taste. Yeah, well

6:38

yeah, uh. Star Wars

6:41

uh battle Front, which

6:44

is a first person shooter

6:46

game but in the Star Wars universe, and

6:48

the fourth one it just

6:50

started happening, and it's like some I

6:54

don't I don't remember the name, something like Castle something

6:57

I don't know. Anyway, Hold on

7:00

Rocko.

7:05

We've never gotten a feature from We have one

7:07

feature a while ago from rock Very spend

7:09

a minute Marco's first cameo. I'm

7:13

excited to hear what this lastness. It

7:16

can be Castlevania, that's so violent. Castle

7:20

Crashers. I thought it might be Castle

7:22

Crashers. Yeah, I don't know. Castle

7:24

Crashers. What is this? Four player co op?

7:26

Very like low polygraphics. It's really fun.

7:29

Yes, a living room game. I love it.

7:32

It's a living room game, a game

7:34

that everybody can play, a game you can play in your

7:36

couch. Everybody can play. Yeah, yeah,

7:38

everybody in your house can sit on the couch and

7:40

play a game. The game. Whereas Minecraft,

7:43

you could play it with four players, but that's just tough.

7:46

Or two players, I'm not sure. But uh, And

7:49

I just got an Xbox One, so I

7:51

think I'm gonna try and get into you know, get

7:53

Castle Crashers. If you're into if you

7:55

know what you really you listen, I know, we the

7:57

Switch, Get that dude, and

8:00

get Zelda Breath of the Wilds.

8:02

Well, that's what he's he's playing on Switch.

8:05

That's the one game he plays on Switch, and that

8:08

that game alone is

8:10

worth buying the Switch for. Okay,

8:13

period. Well, I just got Xbox

8:15

because I feel like I've reached the point

8:17

in quarantine where I'm gonna have to start

8:19

doing some new stuff and get the switch. Dude.

8:21

But to get into a video game, get the switch and get

8:23

Zelda. I'm telling you right now, I'm switching. Getzelda

8:26

Breath of the Wild. I just got an Xbox One. I'm

8:28

sure I can find a game to play an Xbox One. Why are you telling

8:30

me to get a whole different system? Because this

8:33

I'm telling you right now, dude, if you want to play a

8:35

game that's gonna occupy your time

8:37

and make your brain, do

8:40

you know thinking stuff? Zelda

8:43

Breath of the Wild? Am I wrong? Guys? Please

8:45

if I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong. You're

8:47

certainly not wrong. It's a great game. There's also

8:49

great games for I will now return

8:53

the Xbox One because I

8:56

cannot think of a game that I might like on

8:59

Xbox one, Sonabox

9:02

one. I could think of game the back Paddle.

9:04

I don't know what type of game or zec is like, what

9:07

do you like in your video video

9:09

games? I don't really play, but when we were making

9:11

the TV show Scrubs, I would

9:14

get into games, and the last game I remember being

9:16

really into was hit Man. The

9:18

first one. The first one, Okay,

9:21

all right, they liked it because for me

9:24

it was, UM, I liked the idea

9:26

of like having to play a character and like go

9:29

undercover and um and

9:31

like you'd feel your heart beating when they were starting to

9:33

figure you out. And I

9:36

really, I really like that. We finished

9:38

that game. I finished that game, that's how. But

9:40

there's another one. There's been a second one, UM

9:43

that apparently is really good that I never played third

9:45

one on the way. There's a third one on the way, so

9:49

I think I might. I don't know what do you call that kind

9:51

of game? That's what I like totally. I

9:53

feel like you might be like an Elder Scrolls or

9:55

like a sky Rim kind of guy. I don't like

9:58

too much wizardy shit. When people get

10:01

the f out of here, when

10:04

people start like GTA might,

10:07

when people start throwing like wizard spells,

10:09

I'm out. I don't like that. I like reality.

10:12

I started to like that one. Um,

10:14

the Spider Man kid is playing uncharged

10:17

moment no, no, no, uncharted.

10:19

Oh Uncharted. That's a good one, great

10:21

game series. Yeah. Only problem

10:24

it's for the PlayStation, so you can't

10:26

get it on Xbox. Sorry. Also,

10:29

there isn't a Wild West one that's

10:31

kind of a redemption get

10:33

that, yes, yes, get that superword that

10:35

at the second one red Dead Redemption too, So

10:38

just throw it out their Assassin's Creed because

10:41

I don't like that. I don't like those games.

10:43

WHOA, it's

10:46

very similar to Hitmen, very similar video

10:48

game form. It is very similar.

10:51

I just find it. It's weird that I don't.

10:53

I don't. I just don't like the game. I don't know, that's just that's

10:55

totally fun, totally Also, when Cyber

10:58

seventy seven comes out, Zach, I feel like you really

11:00

enjoy that game because you could create every

11:03

aspect and I mean every aspect

11:05

of your character, and then your choices determine

11:08

the storyline. So there's not one linear

11:10

storyline that every player will have. It's entirely

11:12

based on your choices throughout the game. It's

11:14

supposed to be really good. I'm very excited about it. I tried

11:16

to get into GTA don because you were obsessed

11:18

with it while we did Scrubs, but I find it.

11:21

I found it boring after a while. Well,

11:23

then you might not like Red Dead Redemption too. Then if

11:25

that's because it's the same It's kind of the

11:28

same thing as GTAP

11:33

was like going around, darn, we're about to get

11:35

into our first fight. Let's talk about this because

11:37

every game and I'm like, this shit is dope, You're like,

11:40

yeah, right, and then every game that you're like this

11:42

shit is dope, I'm like, that shit sucks. Get

11:45

into No, we probably shouldn't because

11:47

we should segue off video games because there

11:49

might be listeners who are already bored as fun about

11:51

us talking about video games. We can do this later.

11:54

Yeah, okay, I should do a video game podcast.

11:56

Okay. By the way, I saw

11:58

a lot of chatter or about people

12:01

really wanting a Donald Joel star

12:03

Wars podcasts, So I

12:06

think you guys need a side hustle. I'm gonna

12:08

agree with a starting

12:10

Star Wars. You guys can just go off what

12:13

You won't get stopped by me. You won't have

12:15

me going I'm so bored. You guys can

12:17

geek out about Star Wars.

12:19

Forever wants

12:23

to do a Star Wars podcast.

12:25

We're down to be the hosts of it, aren't we. Joel

12:28

absolutely absolutely, especially. I think

12:30

between the two of us, we probably know everybody

12:33

who's either involved in like the creation

12:36

and or talking about I know, like it's one of the

12:38

talking heads from like star Wars

12:40

dot com, and you know, people like that to be

12:42

fun to do like interviews and talk about our favorite characters.

12:44

I can get you Deborah Chow, who directed a bunch

12:47

of the Mandalorians and is directing

12:49

the new oilbi one series. Want I tell

12:51

you, I will sob openly. I'm so obsessed

12:54

with Deborah. Oh my god, get

12:56

you your first mega guest, Debra Chow

12:58

would be our first episode. All right, let me

13:00

bring it to the higher up. We'll discuss.

13:03

I want to cut, and

13:06

I want to and I want to occasionally come on and be

13:08

like this is so boring, you'll

13:13

never We'll never have you on the podcast.

13:16

Do you want to fucking count us in, Donalds,

13:19

Let's fucking start to countess in. But I

13:21

also want to talk about the fact that our

13:24

neighbor in New York City

13:27

when we lived in New York. Yeah, he went

13:29

to Twitter. Amy Tan went to somebody

13:31

hit her up and said is this story true? And she

13:33

was like, I don't know, I don't know. She was like,

13:36

I don't ever recall writing a letter to anyone,

13:39

but I've had several people live

13:42

sublet the place, So can you tell me the year?

13:45

And I'm gonna tell it the year. It would have been summer

13:47

of two thousand and two, right,

13:50

either two thousand and two or two thousand. Well, we came

13:52

out two thousand and one. Yeah, the show came on and

13:54

one, so it would have been summer of summer two thousand and

13:56

two. Summer it was the it was the loft

13:58

and soho and it was one right above

14:01

your loft, miss Tan. And

14:03

we apologize. We were young and we were partying

14:05

and we were loud, and if it wasn't you,

14:08

well we were told it was you, and we definitely got

14:10

a letter that we assumed was from you,

14:13

and then we also got told we

14:16

also got told by whoever

14:18

we rented from that we needed to shut

14:20

the fuck up, yeah,

14:23

and keep it down. And they kept our deposit too.

14:25

I wrote a very angry letter about

14:27

them keeping our deposit. I do remember

14:29

that as well, Yeah, because I was like, this

14:31

is some b s because

14:34

we you know, the place had some problems. We

14:36

loved it, but it had some problems. Yeah,

14:38

Like if you ever rent a place and

14:41

it's got all these problems, but you kind of suck it

14:43

up and you're like, oh whatever, then they try and keep

14:45

your deposit. You're like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa

14:48

this way saying all that. Now I talk about

14:50

the fucking thirty five things. We

14:52

looked and looked at the other way from like

14:55

you know, like air conditioning. Right.

14:57

Oh, it was so high, like the fact that Donald didn't

15:00

have a room and started calling himself

15:02

Benson anyway,

15:06

said to night Stories about

15:08

show. We made a

15:11

lot A bunch of nurses said

15:16

stories. So,

15:21

yeadoo around here, yattoo

15:23

around here. I

15:30

love you. Your beard's looking nice, by the way, it's getting

15:32

full grown in it. There's no gray in

15:34

that thing. There's a lot of gray in it. It's

15:36

just really I don't want to see it. Yeah. If I grow

15:38

a beard now, it's too it's too gray. I don't like it.

15:41

I feel that you have a lot of gray. Yeah, it makes me look

15:43

too old. So I don't really do it anymore. Although I

15:45

was seeing on the interwebs they have this this uh

15:47

die you can put in your beard. Yeah,

15:51

but then like if you put your face on a pillow

15:53

and the pillows white, you gotta die all on the

15:55

pillow. I don't think it comes off. Really

15:59

it comes off hell yeah, man,

16:01

oh you've tried it. No, I just think it

16:03

comes off. Let's make up though.

16:05

I think the die is more is more permanent.

16:08

Okay. Heather Locklear is in this episode.

16:11

Donald, Oh, are you gonna sum it up for us? Yeah?

16:13

I am gonna sum it up for Okay.

16:15

This is a good episode,

16:17

very funny. And uh. Heather

16:20

Locklear is the guest star. I think she does

16:22

two episodes. Yes, and she

16:26

she gets the classic gorgeous

16:28

woman entrance and scrubs where

16:30

she comes in the hallway and slow

16:32

motion with the fan and

16:34

and uh, and she looks marvelous.

16:37

But let's first hear a summary. Let

16:39

me get my stop watch ready. Okay, I'm gonna be honest

16:41

with you, guys. This summary is really quick. Well,

16:44

then you're gonna beat thirty seconds. I guess I'm gonna

16:46

definitely beat thirty seconds this time around. Okay,

16:49

Well, let's you know, don't because this episode had so

16:51

many things in it, but it all boils down to one

16:53

thing. Okay, stop watching. Wait, but one second,

16:55

I don't want you get too cocky with your summaries.

16:58

You have to really have to stop watch ready

17:00

and go all right, see

17:02

this episode it all boils down to one

17:05

thing when you really think about

17:07

it. This episode is all

17:09

about taking chances and the positive things

17:12

that can happen when you exit your

17:14

comfort zone. And it takes Elliott,

17:16

J D, Carla and doctor

17:19

Cox this whole episode to realize

17:21

good things can happen when you step out

17:23

of your comfort zone. That was

17:25

very good. You know, I noticed you slowed down, so

17:28

you were trying to make it fill the thirty seconds,

17:31

right. You know you spoke in a very leisurely

17:33

pace. You were because this time there's

17:35

not because there's not much feeling. The

17:37

only thing you wanted to say was this episode is about taking

17:40

chances. So you were like, go, this

17:43

episode is

17:45

about one thing. I

17:47

got very I got very Bill

17:49

Shatner with it. Huh, this episode

17:53

it's about you

17:56

know, do you remember remember when Um Schattner

17:58

went on SNL and uh, he was playing

18:00

himself at a convention. At a convention

18:03

is like, yes, I have a question in

18:06

an episode three two seven, Um,

18:08

what is the combination to the safe? And

18:10

he goes, look, I just have to say one thing. After

18:13

coming to all these conventions and I

18:15

get all your letters and your fan

18:17

mail life. I just have to say,

18:20

get a life.

18:25

He goes, it was a show, we did it years

18:27

ago. Great. I

18:30

remember that great, great

18:32

episode, and I remember. I wonder he must have

18:34

gotten a lot of backlash from like, dude,

18:37

he is listen, I've I've I've met

18:39

William Shatner quite a few times, and he

18:41

is a lovely man. He is

18:44

very funny and does

18:46

not take the Star Trek

18:49

fandom serious like that seriously

18:51

like that, like he's for real, like on some

18:54

I played this role. I love

18:56

the fact that everybody loves it, but

18:59

that doesn't necessarily define who I am.

19:01

You know what I'm saying? Really so, but so

19:04

how are they? I wonder how those megafans are

19:06

with him, because a lot of people who are in

19:08

mega fandom pieces of content

19:11

understandably and rightfully so embrace

19:13

the fan base and and do whatever they

19:16

want. And he embraces it completely. He

19:18

embraces it, and does he come to him He doesn't

19:20

roll his eyes about it, or I don't know that

19:22

he rolls his eyes about it. And I don't know

19:24

how he is with his fans, But

19:27

when you talk to him about it, yeah,

19:29

he's well aware. I was in Star Trek

19:31

and it was a very popular show, and I you

19:33

know, I crushed it. That being

19:36

said, you know he's

19:39

a t J Hooker. By

19:42

the way, we're look what good hosts we are. We're

19:44

circling back to t J Hooker with with

19:46

Shatner and have the Locklan and had their

19:49

lock there. What an odd name for a show, t

19:51

J Hooker. For those of you who don't know, it was not

19:53

about a hooker. It was about

19:55

a cop. A cop. They

19:57

a bunch of cops. They were partners, right.

20:00

I never saw an episode. I think she was on it. I think

20:02

she to This is how dope had a lock leer career.

20:05

Oh my god, back in the day. I think she was on two

20:08

hit shows at one time, and

20:10

I don't know if they were on the same network, but I know she

20:12

was doing two shows at one time

20:15

and both of them were hits, and she

20:17

was ratings gold well. She was on Dynasty,

20:19

right, and she was on melrose Place obviously

20:21

what else, and she was on t J Hooker right.

20:26

I don't know if I see it. It just seemed like if you wanted

20:28

a ratings bump and

20:31

you needed some you needed to

20:33

bring the ratings up. You bring Heather

20:35

Lockleer into the into the fold, and

20:37

she just works wonders on. She

20:40

certainly is a very pretty

20:43

human being. And I think she's also

20:45

very very, very funny and talented.

20:47

Man, it wasn't it was it was she was

20:49

on Spin City, she was on Bill show, Spin City.

20:52

It was also it's like the perfect storm of

20:55

you know, of talent. She's

20:57

very beautiful, she's very

20:59

funny. You

21:02

know she's coming on the program, right, Joel, Yes,

21:04

we have Harry schedules for the

21:07

next episodes. Absolutely, but the next episode

21:09

we're having her on Donald. How fancy is that?

21:12

I love this. I mean I think I don't want to

21:14

I don't want to let the fans down. I mean, you know, you never

21:16

know what can happen in in the in the fast

21:18

pace moving world of podcast booking

21:21

guests. But uh, so far, her, so

21:24

far, we have her. I'm very excited

21:26

about it. She's um, she's um,

21:28

I just wanted to say, And she's she's having such an interesting

21:31

life. We gotta we gotta ask her, we gotta

21:33

we gotta go deep with Heather. Are you gonna go? Are

21:35

we gonna go? Deep. Are we gonna go Are

21:37

we gonna go deep deep deep undercover?

21:39

Like Eddie Murphy and Benley Hill's Cap. Two. No,

21:42

I'm not trying to like ask her personal questions,

21:44

but I mean she's just had some. I could say, ask a personal

21:46

questions. Are we trying to go deep? Deep? Deep?

21:49

She likes Rocker. She was married to Tommy Lee.

21:51

She was married to Richie Sambora.

21:53

Oh. She she had a relationship with Jack

21:55

Wagner, my sister. I

21:58

mean she rest in peace. And did she

22:00

have a crush on Jack Wagner? You know who that is?

22:02

Donald. Yeah, he's a great golfer Jack

22:05

Wagner. No, but he's

22:07

he's an actor. No, I know he's an actor,

22:09

but he's also one of the best celebrity golfers. I

22:11

think he also sings too. I think my sister

22:14

used to love him so much. She used to listen to his

22:16

music. Okay, No, I've got

22:18

her things up here. She's um gosh.

22:20

She's been on so many shows. Her

22:24

first job, it looks like, was on Chips as

22:26

a teenager, Wow and

22:29

t J Hooker Dynasty,

22:34

a show called Going Places, Melrose

22:37

Place, Spins City. She

22:40

was on a show called lax in twenty

22:42

and forty five the melrose

22:45

Place reunion. Geez,

22:48

she works a lot well her, it's

22:50

heavi likelier. Dude, Hey, she was in Uptown Girls.

22:53

Yeah, wow, I mean,

22:55

just to just to show the audience how well we're

22:57

dovetailing all this together. Uptown Girls

23:00

is the movie Donald made when

23:02

we were in New York, when Amy Tan

23:04

got mad at us. That's exactly

23:08

this is. This is turning out to be. Wow,

23:10

it's almost like we planned at all. It's

23:13

it does seem like it's like our fans

23:15

right now, the people listening to this podcast right

23:17

now are like they're making this up, but we're not. Yeah,

23:21

it's as though Donald. So anyway, we're gonna ask her about

23:24

some of that we gotta I mean, I don't. I don't know what. We're

23:26

gonna ask her about everything. We're gonna asking about Chattner's

23:28

about melrose Place. Did

23:31

you ever watch melrose Place? I mean I did not.

23:34

Yeah, it wasn't really aimed at us. I don't think no,

23:37

But um, yeah, Andrew

23:39

Shoe went to my high school. He was a very good

23:42

soccer. Nobody cares, Zach Oh,

23:49

I'm just telling you Andrew Shoe and and you

23:51

know who his sister is, Elizabeth Shoe.

23:54

Yeah, both went to Columbia High School in Maplewood,

23:56

New Jersey. Now let me get this straight.

23:58

Elizabeth Shoe Adventures, Baby Sitting Elizabeth

24:00

Shoe. Yeah,

24:03

she and my wife kind of look alike. Yeah,

24:07

they have the similar hair and similar

24:09

chens too. You

24:11

know who else went to my high school? No, Lauren

24:14

Hill. Lauren Hill

24:17

drumming my pain with his fingers,

24:21

singing in my life with his words,

24:26

killing me softly with his

24:28

song, killing me softly

24:32

with his song, telling

24:35

my whole life with

24:37

his words, killing me

24:40

softly. I love her,

24:42

Miss Education of Lauren Hill so much. With

24:45

his song Oh

24:54

that's that's You wouldn't know that, but that's trip call quest

24:56

right there. No, don't, but

24:58

that was That song

25:01

was off the Fuji's album. And but her solo

25:03

album I loved so much. Yeah

25:06

that that record is one of the best records ever made. I

25:09

think I might agree with you to this day. Um,

25:12

she was at my bar mitzvah and

25:16

um, you know, we play a game at

25:18

bar Mitza was well, at least the kids used to called

25:20

coke and pepsi And it's like a dance floor

25:22

game, like you're on one side and your

25:24

partner's on the other and your coke and your

25:26

partner's pepsi. And if they go coke, all

25:29

the all the kids run over and they sit

25:31

on your on your knee and they go pepsi

25:33

and it's like it's kind of like a musical chairs thing. The last

25:35

person there is kicked off, kicked off, kicked off

25:37

until there's only two left standing. Lauren

25:40

Hill was my coke and pepsi partner at

25:43

my bar mitzphone. And that's

25:46

the extent of the anecdote. Did you guys win?

25:49

I don't think we want no. Well, because

25:51

I invited some jocks to my barmitz phone, I

25:53

think they got really serious about it. And you know

25:55

they were Lauren and I were like the two

25:57

actors, you know, joking around. We weren't

25:59

like really trying to win coke and pepsi

26:02

got it? Would Can you tell me what song

26:04

you walked out to for your bar mitzvah

26:07

and and and how you and and the high stepping

26:09

that you did. So what happened was,

26:12

um I entered my bar mitzvah.

26:14

So what they said, Oh my god, this is so embarrassing.

26:16

I love it though, it's so embarrassing,

26:18

but you know what, no one's listening. Um,

26:21

it's just it's just so.

26:23

The theme was musical theater. Hell

26:27

yeah. So you

26:29

know, for those of you who don't know, back in the day, I don't know if

26:31

kids do this anymore, but back in the day, you're you're a bar Mitzva

26:33

had to have like a theme, and often kids would

26:35

choose their sport because that's what you

26:37

know. My theme is soccer, and like the

26:40

centerpieces would be soccer balls and the cake

26:42

would look like a soccer ball, and it was just you know that kind

26:44

of thing. And uh so my

26:46

theme is musical theater. And um.

26:49

The the company that planned

26:51

the party hired actors

26:54

to dress up as famous characters

26:57

from the music from different musicals.

26:59

Like one guy was dressed as like a cat from

27:01

Cats, when Gal was dressed

27:03

as someone in Sunday in the Park with George with like a

27:05

parasol. Someone was dressed as

27:07

like lame is you know, someone

27:10

on a barricade kind of thing. And

27:12

and then so as I so, as

27:14

I walked into the room, these

27:17

people were standing as centerpieces

27:19

in the middle of the tables frozen as

27:22

robots, and as I walked

27:24

into the room, the band struck

27:26

up Let's hear it for the Boy,

27:29

and then the centerpieces all started moving

27:32

at like robot like robotic figures

27:35

to the rhythm of let's hear it for

27:37

the Boy. And you high stepped

27:40

into the and you high stepped into your botta.

27:42

Yes, let's hear it for the boy,

27:45

and the crowd went wild, and I

27:47

can and all the different

27:49

robotic people moved it

27:52

like robots to let's hear it for the boy.

27:54

Maybe he's no Romeo, but

27:56

he's my love love in one man show. Whoo

28:00

whoa, Let's

28:02

hear it bother boy. I

28:04

remember that, Um, I

28:08

remember that. My friend, my

28:10

friend, Roger Heller, he noticed

28:12

that, Um, the guy playing

28:15

in one of the cats from the music Cats was

28:17

distracted doing his robot dance

28:19

to Let's hear It for the Boy, And so he took

28:21

his spoon and he tied

28:25

the guy's tail. I'm round

28:27

up a bunch a bunch

28:30

silverware. So when

28:32

the poor guy when the number was over, and the guy

28:34

was like taking his bow and got

28:36

down off the table, he was clanking

28:38

solar that

28:41

Roger had tied to his tail like

28:44

like a like a car that had cans tied

28:47

to it. Just married. Oh

28:53

my god, Oh my god, it was so embarrassing.

28:55

That's hilarious. Let's take a break. We'll

28:57

be right back after these fine words.

29:06

Let's get into the episode, all right. Heather Lockleyer

29:08

comes in. Now. I don't know if you

29:10

know this, Donald, or if our listeners know this, but

29:13

I find that not everyone knows this. This is a

29:15

real thing that the pharmacutic. Absolutely

29:17

they send out. They're often beautiful

29:20

women, so I assume handsome men as

29:23

well, but more often than not, they're beautiful

29:25

women. And their job is

29:27

to convince doctors to

29:30

prescribe their drug and

29:33

they'll they'll they still do tons

29:35

of shady stuff. I think some of it's been attempted

29:37

to be curbs because it was out of control. I

29:40

knew girls in my high school that would do this right

29:42

out of high school, like their first job or right out of

29:44

college. Their first job was going to

29:46

do this. And you got and if you're ever in a doctor's

29:48

office and you see someone come in and they're

29:50

all kind of dolled up and they're pulling a little

29:53

rollie bag, that's often a pharmaceutical rep

29:56

and you'll be frustrated when you see them go in the office

29:58

before you and you're like, oh, I've been waiting here and

30:00

now I have to wait for her to go schmooze

30:03

the doctor. And they always have. That's why

30:05

the doctor always has all this swag that we joke

30:07

about in the episode and the teachers, but that's

30:09

the least of it. They keep track

30:11

of how much the doctor is prescribing

30:14

the drug, and if you prescribe it a

30:16

certain amount, they like can win vacations

30:19

and trips, and they take them

30:21

to lunch and they buy them expensive just

30:23

like this dinner that's in this episode, and

30:25

they'll they'll they schmooze the nurses

30:27

too, so they're like, Oh, I brought sushi,

30:30

I brought cupcakes, and it's

30:32

all this like it's like payola. It's

30:34

like this super shady aspect of the

30:37

pharmaceutical world. Not that there needs to

30:39

be more shady aspects, but it's

30:41

it's something that really really happens, and it's

30:44

really really fucked up, I think because

30:46

they're basically like incentivizing

30:49

the doctors to prescribe their drug

30:52

or recommend it. Yeah, right. Well,

30:55

in this episode, this drug that she's pushing

30:57

actually works very well. The only problem

31:00

that Cox has with it is that they've

31:02

marked it up so high. It's sort of like EpiPens.

31:05

Repie pens work great everybody.

31:07

If you have allergies to anything

31:10

and you can and you go into anaphylactic shock

31:13

because of your allergies or because I said allergies,

31:16

an EpiPen uh can

31:18

help save your life. The problem

31:21

with EpiPens are they're so expensive,

31:24

and even the generic

31:26

brand is so expensive and

31:29

very hard to come by. Yeah, I mean,

31:31

of course that and the marking up of drugs

31:33

is a whole other thing. You

31:35

can That's why people drive across the border to go to

31:37

Canada where they don't mark the drugs up like

31:39

that. And and I mean they have like literally have

31:41

bus trips where they'll

31:44

where a bunch of seniors will get on

31:46

a bus and go to Canada

31:48

to buy their drugs for a more affordable price

31:51

and then come back to this country. But let's

31:53

not go around a giant tangent like that, because we

31:55

can make a whole podcast about how fucked up that shit is.

31:58

But but anyway, this episode is about

32:00

a pharmaceutical rep coming to bribe everyone

32:03

with pens and swag and free

32:05

steaks

32:08

and sexiness and of course sexiness, which is

32:10

something that is a part of it. I

32:12

mean, I imagine in my brain

32:15

some of this has been curbed. But back in the day, it

32:17

was all about like flirting. I mean, all the girls

32:20

that I knew that did this were attractive

32:22

women, and they would say, yeah, a part

32:24

of it is like, you know, gentle

32:27

flirting to get the doctors to

32:29

to prescribe their drug. And then they would

32:31

have this girl once showed me. She's like, you're gonna believe

32:34

the data we have on these on these doctors, like

32:36

what they're prescribing, how many times they prescribe

32:38

our drug when they didn't prescribe our drug?

32:41

And uh, and they get they do all this sort

32:43

of shady stuff, like they

32:45

put them certain doctors on retainer, Oh, you're

32:48

a consultant with our pharmaceutical

32:50

company, which is basically just fucking

32:52

shady Paola, to make sure they're prescribing

32:55

it. And when it's not a when

32:57

it's not an addictive drug, it's like, okay,

32:59

that's one of the of shity. Now cut to it. When it's an opioid,

33:01

and they're fucking prescribing oxyconton

33:04

and making everyone addicts. I highly

33:06

recommend this book called Dope Sick if

33:08

you want to read about this. It's about

33:11

how the pharmaco industry, particularly Purdue

33:13

Pharma, got in basically

33:17

turning in so many people into opioid

33:19

addicts because of the overprescription

33:22

of oxyconton. And I just finished this book and

33:24

it's amazing, and I think Michael Keaton is gonna

33:26

make it into a many

33:28

series. But don't wait for that. Read the book

33:31

Dope Sick. The episode

33:33

starts off with people getting hurt. This kid's

33:35

gotten hurt, got hurt, and you watched him get

33:37

hurt one video. Yes, I

33:40

gotta be honest with you. I watched a lot of

33:42

crazy shit because I enjoy watching

33:44

people get hurt. But then it turns, it

33:46

turns, you know sometimes like sometimes it's

33:49

like, wow, that was funny. He fell and hurt

33:51

himself, he busted his ass. But then the

33:53

things that you can see on the internet on like Instagram,

33:56

now some of these things you're like, I don't want to watch

33:58

that, you know what I mean? This is harmless.

34:01

Him crushing his nuts on a rail, do

34:03

you do you WinCE when you watch someone get

34:06

their nuts hurt? I feel a pain in my

34:08

in my and my and my genitals whenever

34:10

I see anyone get hurt. It's like a It's

34:12

a quick pain. I don't know if women understand

34:14

this, And not to say that it doesn't hurt

34:17

when they hurt their groins, but but men

34:19

have a physical just

34:21

reaction when you see someone hurt

34:24

their nuts where you you kind I kind

34:26

of grab mine if I'm alone and I'm

34:28

allowed to, and just make sure that they're okay.

34:31

No, I I have this happens to me if

34:33

I see anyone get hurt. Ever, dude,

34:35

ever, if anyone I'm talking particularly

34:37

a testicle moment like this. Yeah, ten,

34:39

this episode, he's he lands on a

34:42

on a railing skateboarding and he

34:44

lands on the railing on his nuts. It

34:46

depends on how to watch. It depends

34:48

on how unsuspected it is, you

34:51

know what I mean, Like we knew watching

34:53

this that the kid's gonna crush his nuts, So I didn't

34:55

necessarily flinch as hard as if

34:58

I were watching something and out of nowhere somebody

35:00

gets pummeled in the in the in the balls.

35:03

That's when I'm like, oh my god, and

35:05

I and I flint and I feel that sharp

35:08

pain in my test. He's from it. Yeah,

35:11

yeah, I I I crushed. I clutched my balls

35:13

when I saw this kid fall over and over and over again.

35:15

I thought that she was hilarious. Now when

35:18

she walks in and does her his slow motion sexy

35:20

walk in, Um, they cut you

35:22

cut to a fantasy and it's me and Deontay

35:25

Gordon, who's Donald standing, who's often

35:27

in the background, UM is next

35:29

to me, and he's wearing Pooka shells. Did you notice

35:32

that? I did? I do remember when Deonta used

35:34

to wear Pooka shells. No, but that's

35:36

hilarious. I mean, I haven't seen someone were Pooka

35:38

shells since I was a child, and I didn't really notice that

35:40

Deontay was walking around the scrub stet we're wearing Pooka

35:43

shells. This was also twenty years ago, but

35:45

but still, Pooka shells were not in in two

35:47

thousand and two. I'm

35:49

sure they were because they were. I

35:52

think it's like a choker too. It's not

35:54

like unless it's

35:57

like you know, you know, like the women had this style. How

36:00

a few years ago where they're all wearing the tight chokers

36:02

around their neck. Yeah, what was the purpose of that?

36:04

Can we what was? What was? Chokers

36:06

look awesome? There's no no, they

36:09

look awesome all the time in Victorian

36:11

times when they were hitting in the eighties and the nineties.

36:14

Now, chokers, I don't nice. It

36:16

just looks weird to have a black ribbon

36:19

around your neck. Are you ready to husband

36:21

fell off? Take them off? Well,

36:24

they're gone again, jewel Right, the fad was strong

36:26

for a couple of years. Now I feel like it's gone again. Yeah.

36:28

The punk princesses are They're colder on strong.

36:31

I love them. Rock on girls.

36:34

Uh yeah, not cea On like Vogue anymore or

36:36

anything like that though. No. And I would say Pooka

36:38

Shells, yes, early two thousands because

36:40

the OC was around and those had

36:43

Oh maybe Deonte was inspired

36:46

by the OC. Deonta's

36:48

from California. Deontay

36:50

went to school in OC

36:53

type of high school.

36:56

Yeah, man, so he wanted to be and then he went

36:58

to I think Deontay went to like UC Hanna

37:00

Barbara or something like that, one of the party schools.

37:02

You see one of those you see

37:05

party schools. Well, all I know is it's a very

37:07

funny site watching Deontay wearing

37:09

a puka shell choker. Yeah,

37:12

hilarious. And then the corpse sitting

37:14

up because of how hot Heather Locklear

37:17

is. That is funny, and she rubs his she rubs

37:19

his head through the body bag and

37:22

then I give a little like that's a gift. I see

37:24

a lot. Is that moment where where

37:27

she like blows a kiss and I do a little

37:30

I do a little like kiss to her? Is that a that

37:32

a that? Yeah, I'm gonna send you that gift

37:34

after we get off the podcast. Right, it's

37:36

a funny one. But yeah, so Deontay

37:39

and puka shells his face is really funny too.

37:41

Yeah, if you if you guys are watching this, go to go

37:44

around uh two h six

37:46

and you'll see this moment. It's really

37:48

really funny. And then threesome talk.

37:51

Carla is very into

37:53

a threesome if it's with Heather Locklear,

37:56

right, but she's kind of

37:58

talking smack because he doesn't know

38:00

that you're gonna go and try and she says,

38:02

she's like, oh you know, yeah, that's with someone

38:04

like her, I'll do it. And then she doesn't know that you're

38:06

like you when you go try and you

38:09

gotta try and chat Heather up right.

38:11

The new title sequences back, and I saw

38:14

on wiki scrubs wiki that it's

38:16

the last time it's ever seen, So

38:18

for those of you who love it and

38:20

uh and liked it, this is the last

38:22

episode it's ever seen, and then it's retired

38:25

forever. I thought

38:27

that there's another change to the

38:29

title at some point where it just goes Superman, I'm

38:33

no Superman. Yeah. Eventually, what happens

38:35

every every season, they kept cutting the amount

38:37

of show back to put in more

38:39

advertiser time, and so

38:42

then it became like, well, we don't have time for all

38:44

of this whole title sequence. So then it was just like I'm

38:46

no Superman and that was

38:48

it. Yeah. Yeah,

38:50

Actually, another thing I read on scrubs wiki, interestingly

38:53

was that this episode when it first aired was

38:55

a supersized one, so it was ten minutes

38:57

longer. Remember that NBC at the time was doing

39:00

some supersized episodes, right, so

39:02

they still do that. Well, there's ten minutes

39:04

of the show that aren't on the one I

39:06

watched that that we're on when it aired,

39:08

so god knows what those ten minutes were, Oh,

39:11

so there's show missing. Yeah,

39:13

well, I mean I watched it on iTunes. You

39:15

watched on Hulu. Yeah, well

39:17

it was. If it was I think it was twenty four minutes or something.

39:20

But but there's a thirty four minute

39:22

version of this episode somewhere. I

39:24

wonder if that's on the DVDs or not. Probably

39:27

that I don't know. Um. I like when I

39:29

try and hit on her at three thirty three,

39:31

I'm like, she goes, I'm Julie, I go, were you

39:33

named after a jewel? He

39:39

he's so bad at hitting on women,

39:41

this guy. Yeah, well he's you

39:43

know, he's a

39:45

nerds. Yeah, he's he's he's

39:47

this is the it's so charming

39:49

though, you know, no friend nerd. He does get some

39:52

pretty amazing women. Yeah, he's so charming.

39:54

He's charming. He's a charming he's charming,

39:56

and he's a doctor and he's goofy

40:00

um, I'd like yeah,

40:04

but again, in the spirit of flirting, she's like, come

40:07

grab a pen and they're like all right

40:09

above her breast. Yeah, you know, it's all

40:11

about like, you know, one by one, she's

40:13

worked, she works Kelso, she works, doctor

40:15

Cox, she's working, she works.

40:17

You with the steak that you eat makes

40:20

you sick works? Yeah? Oh man, have

40:23

you ever had a turf and

40:25

turf night? We go steak night? We used to go steak

40:27

night all the time. It's just a really we still

40:29

legitimately go stag night, but now I'm a pesketarian.

40:33

Had steak night. This is where steak Knight

40:35

kind of started. This is where we learned turk loves

40:38

steak. Yes, you really love steak,

40:40

turf and turf. Turf and turf.

40:43

Do you know until this episode, I had no idea what surf

40:45

and turf mint? Yeah,

40:47

that's when you have a lobster with you? Or does it

40:49

any fish or just lobster? I believe it's any

40:52

any fish, anything in the sea.

40:54

Yeah. And then does that mean it could be any

40:56

food that eats grass? Good

41:00

question. I assumed it was always a steak.

41:03

You know, I grew up kosher, so I never had a

41:05

lobster and and and stuff like that,

41:07

the shellfish until I was like fourteen

41:10

fifteen years old. Do you want

41:12

to tell them that story? Which

41:15

one after you for

41:19

a girl? Well,

41:21

my father made us kosher when we were

41:23

kids, and after my bar mitzvah,

41:25

after I successfully

41:28

became a man in the eyes of the Jewish

41:30

faith. My dad. I said to

41:32

my father like, well, if I'm a man,

41:35

I really don't want to be kosher

41:38

anymore, and I'd like to make that decision for myself.

41:41

And he was kind of his mind was kind of blown,

41:43

like I Jedi mind tricked them, and he was like

41:46

okay, and I was I couldn't believe

41:48

it worked. Uh. And then

41:51

from that moment on, I was no longer

41:53

kosher. But he said, outside

41:55

of the house, because like I would say, there

41:58

was no way you were bringing like a lobster home for supermarket.

42:02

No no. If I just sit down

42:04

the table and started being like a baky double cheeseburger, no

42:08

no, no no. But his rule was

42:12

outside of the house, you can eat whatever you want. Also,

42:14

my parents had gotten divorced and my mom

42:16

was now, um, you know, living with my stepfather

42:19

and they weren't kosher. So it was a confusing

42:21

time for for us as kids, like come

42:24

on, guys, you guys got to get on a unified front

42:26

here, like what the hell are we allowed to eat? You

42:28

know? And uh. And so that's

42:30

kind of part of it too, you know. So

42:32

we never we never had any kind of shellfish

42:35

or any pork or any dairy

42:37

mixed with meat. And

42:40

then it was such a bizarre rule

42:42

like if you, let's say you had meat for dinner,

42:44

you would have to wait an hour till

42:47

you could have ice cream. Why

42:50

that's part of being the kosher rules?

42:53

Like, is there is there a specific reason

42:55

on why that's Well, back in the day, it was.

42:57

It was theory about health and eating

42:59

things that wouldn't make you sick, you

43:01

know, back in like biblical

43:03

times. But now it's just tradition,

43:06

so you know, you know, I always

43:08

was like sitting there being like, oh my god, how long has it

43:10

been? Forty five minutes? Do

43:12

you think, Gosh, do you think God is going to

43:14

be pissed if I have the ice cream? Like fifteen early?

43:18

But you know, it's just like any like

43:20

that when you were a kid to your parents. No,

43:22

I mean, are you kidding me? I was afraid of my dad. I wasn't

43:24

saying anything like that, but I mean I in my

43:27

mind, I was thinking like this is crazy, even

43:29

as a kid, like this is crazy.

43:31

God does not care about this. That's

43:34

how I felt. That's how I felt. Donald

43:37

right, so good, Um, so

43:39

let's go back to I'd like to double her Atandra.

43:43

Yeah, Todd, Yeah, I'd

43:45

like to double her Ontandra. That might

43:47

be I should use that shit to

43:49

this day. It's a double Auntandra. I'd

43:52

like to double her Ontra. It's not as good

43:54

as um. Are you going to turn everything into sexual

43:56

innuendo?

44:02

Um? Yeah. The Todd is pretty funny

44:04

in this episode, although it's a little creepy that he's planning

44:06

to hide out and watch you have sex with Judy.

44:09

No, he was in the break room. He was in the room sleeping

44:11

already. He wasn't hiding out,

44:13

he was already in there. Oh, I was under the impression

44:16

that he was. He was like, he was like he

44:18

figured out that you guys were gonna have sex,

44:21

and so he was like hanging out on the top punk. No,

44:23

no, no, no, he went into that. He

44:25

went in there right to be

44:29

the Todd and do whatever the Todd. That's a good

44:31

ask, rob question, how come how come

44:33

the Todd is always in

44:35

the break room when something something's

44:38

about to when something something's about

44:40

to jump off? The Todd does take a lot of

44:42

naps. I have to say he does. Right

44:45

there. There's an episode where Todd says, sometimes

44:47

when I'm banging this mattress, I'm thinking about

44:49

banging that one, the one underneath.

44:51

So we know that Todd likes to hump

44:54

the mattresses in the break room, right,

44:56

Um, so I think we should ask Rob

44:58

why is Todd always in the break room

45:01

alone? Well, between all the surgical

45:03

enhancements and rejuvenations,

45:05

the Todd needs a little cat nap to

45:07

cut down on recovery time between operating

45:10

sessions. I've been told I'm

45:12

a bit of a sleep humper, though, sometimes

45:14

when I'm banging the top mattress, I'm

45:17

thinking about banging the bottom one. Thank

45:19

you, Thank you Rob, Thank you Rob. And

45:21

just to give Rob a plug. If

45:24

you guys want, you can hire them on Cameo,

45:26

go on that that app and you

45:29

can you can have you can hire Rob

45:31

to say anything pretty

45:33

much yeah within reason right,

45:36

And you can send your friends a

45:38

Rob video of him saying funny stuff.

45:41

These are great ideas for birthday

45:44

presence. If you have friends that are die

45:47

hard Scrubs fan and fans and

45:50

love the Todd, here's

45:52

a way for you to get the Todd to

45:54

deliver some sort of five

45:57

and a funny anecdote.

46:00

And you know, I haven't really been on the cameo too

46:02

much, but I like the idea of hiring

46:04

um people. I like to say funny

46:06

things. Yeah, Donald and

46:09

I are not on there, but we want you to put all

46:11

of your scrubs love in to Rob

46:13

get robbed to say funny things. I think I might

46:16

hire Rob just to send you a message. Donald,

46:19

Okay, yeah, it's sure. Yeah, I mean it's gonna

46:21

be maybe with you. I should hire a

46:23

basketball player because they have a lot of sports

46:25

athletes on there, and I and I could get

46:27

you one. If you could get anyone to send me a

46:29

message, I would love a message from Tracy Morgan.

46:32

I don't know if he's I bet he's not a camy. He's got a zillion

46:34

dollars now, especially dudes. As a settlement, I'm

46:37

Brian. If you could get Tracy Morgan to

46:39

hit me up as Brian Fellows, you did it once

46:41

in your life, you had Tracy

46:44

Morgan went to Oh that's

46:46

right, I did, because you know I'm a huge

46:48

Tracy Morgan, right, And you know how much

46:50

I love Brian Fellow. I'm Brian

46:53

Fellows, right. And it

46:55

was just after I think one

46:57

of the best, uh, Tracy Morgan

46:59

said, Day Night Lives is when Brittany

47:03

Spears hosted I

47:05

made no sense, but it was feel funny. But

47:07

he's so funny on that episode anyway,

47:10

Rob Mascio's on cameo, guys, we're

47:13

going to break. I

47:21

love how Rob seems to write out

47:24

his thing, like I thought he was just gonna, like, le

47:27

just answer it, but it seems very prepared,

47:29

and he writes them out and us

47:32

the line. He puts his time, and he runs

47:34

his line, runs his line. Their

47:37

guests here, Daniel, Yes, they are Yeah,

47:40

let him in, Yeah, already Yeah,

47:42

bringing the guests, Ladies and gentlemen.

47:45

Give it up for Devin.

47:50

How are you man? I'm doing well?

47:52

What about yourself? We're chilling, you know, making

47:54

it happen like everybody else trying chilling, chilling

47:57

like a villain. Donald, Don't you say that. I

47:59

don't ever say chilling like a villain, You fucking

48:02

tool. Devin. Do you see how I'm addressed?

48:05

Do you see how I'm how I'm talking to Well, you

48:07

made the dumbest remark and said, do you say chilling

48:09

like a villain? Donald? What says

48:11

chilling like a villain, Devin. Do you follow sports

48:14

in basketball in particular at all? I do,

48:16

yes? And who's your favorite team?

48:18

I'm a Dallas Mavericks fan. Oh see, you're

48:20

lucky man, You've won a ring. You guys

48:23

stole Pussencis from us? Are you calling

48:25

out? Are you? Are you coming from Dallas right now? Are you hitting

48:27

us up from Dallas right now? I'm not. Actually, I'm one

48:29

of those weird Dallas Mavericks fans. I'm

48:32

originally from Pennsylvania and I'm in Virginia

48:34

now. I became a Dallas Mavericks fan because

48:37

Dirk I lost a bet in junior

48:39

high school and so I had to take German as

48:42

my foreign language and I

48:44

ended up sticking with it and I majored in

48:46

it in college. But my dad wasn't a

48:48

big basketball fan. He was a big baseball

48:51

guy, and so I kind of had free rein to

48:53

pick my team. And I always loved

48:55

picking, you know, underdogs in the

48:57

The MAVs kind of had you know, pretty

49:00

good squads leading up to that championship

49:02

team, but nothing fully came together

49:06

up until twenty eleven, and

49:08

so I, you know, picked Dirk and I

49:11

Mark Cuban seems like a pretty cool guy.

49:13

UM hard to like a lot of what he's doing.

49:15

I like Markuban. Yeah, I don't know what anything

49:18

about sports, but I like Mark Cuban. Um,

49:20

Devin, do you have a question for us um

49:23

about anything? He does nothing about Scrubs,

49:25

It could be about anything. Yeah. Absolutely,

49:27

I prepared a couple. I'm lucky

49:30

enough to know John Putch,

49:32

who directed a couple episodes

49:34

I think starting at the tail end of season five.

49:37

Yeah. Great. He grew up in the same

49:39

town I did, and frequent in the restaurant

49:41

my mom owned. Um. He actually

49:43

filmed one of his movies partially

49:46

in that restaurant, and I got to be an extra, so

49:48

I got to meet him through that. UM

49:50

and I know you both have talked a lot

49:52

about what different directors

49:55

brought, especially in the early couple of

49:57

episodes. So for someone

49:59

like John, you know where

50:02

end of season five, you guys, I think it

50:04

had already done one hundred and twenties

50:06

episodes, give or take. What

50:10

was it like, you know, coming in as a new director.

50:12

How and and you know, Zach you

50:14

kind of you got to direct your own couple

50:16

of episodes for a show.

50:18

That kind of had its voice, it

50:20

had its style. How did you

50:23

balance that with your own personal styles?

50:27

That's a good question. Someone like that is in a

50:29

tough place because they're coming into a machine

50:31

five seasons in that's so well

50:33

oiled. You know, we really all we crank

50:36

them out. You know, by the time you come to five seasons,

50:38

everybody knows what they're doing, everybody knows

50:40

their characters, and a director

50:43

that's coming in brand new, they just

50:45

got to make sure that they that they go with

50:47

the flow that you still want to A director

50:49

like John would still want to come in and add

50:52

his own spin and add his own flair and come up

50:54

with cool shots and have suggestions,

50:56

but you don't want them coming in and trying to change

50:59

the style at all and going in and doing something

51:01

out of the norm. But someone like him would

51:03

really have to know the show, really have watched a lot of episodes.

51:06

A lot of times what they'll do is come and hang out on

51:08

the set and watch somebody else direct, so

51:10

they just kind of not only gives you a chance to meet everyone

51:12

and kind of shoot the shit a bit, but also you

51:15

get the sense of like everyone's vibe,

51:17

like, oh I see that Johnny c doesn't like

51:19

to do more than that many takes. I'm gonna just make

51:21

a mental note of that. And oh, I see

51:23

that Donald never knows his lines.

51:25

Okay, good, let me memorize that. So

51:27

you kind of kind of come to the set and get

51:29

the feel of everything. So then when you

51:31

when you when you're all of a sudden, because like I said

51:34

before, it's such a bizarre job to be like, hey,

51:36

everyone, nice to meet you. I know you guys

51:38

have been working together for five years. I'm

51:40

the boss this week. You know. It's such a weird,

51:43

a weird way to create stuff,

51:45

but it is kind of how it works. A

51:48

little trivia for you. Do you know who John Punch? His

51:50

mother is John Punch. His

51:53

mother is Jean Stapleton, who

51:55

was Edith Bunker on the classic

51:57

show All in the Family Nose

52:00

What a day? And

52:02

you knew who you? I

52:05

can't hit that note. And

52:07

girls Hoover

52:12

again, Herbert Hoover again,

52:15

did no no more about everybody

52:18

pulled his way, g r

52:20

old Lasal worked great, Sorry,

52:30

sorry for your ears. She was a fantastic

52:32

actress and um and John

52:34

Punches mother A little bit of trivia

52:37

for you I'll say this, When John came in, it

52:39

felt like he was already. He really

52:41

blended in very well with us. Yeah, and

52:43

I think that's why he came back for He was also

52:46

very fast. Yeah, that was

52:48

another thing he was. He was he totally

52:50

like he got the show and he got us.

52:52

Also, Zach, have you

52:54

have you guys ever worked together

52:57

other than we text sometimes and

52:59

we shoot the shit. He listens to the podcast, So,

53:01

Hi John, thank you for listening. Um,

53:04

and we'll have him on. I told him we'll have him on when the when

53:06

the time comes, I would love to have if

53:08

if we really keep this thing going for five. He's

53:10

directed so much television as well.

53:13

We had Michael Spillern who's directed quite

53:15

a bit of television. John Punch is another person

53:17

who is you know, yeah,

53:19

who who is a well seasoned

53:22

director. Yeah. I don't know what he's directing now,

53:24

I'll look it up. Well, nobody's directing anything

53:26

right now. Well, I'm saying pre quarantizzle.

53:30

He's doing something. I think it was American

53:32

Housewife. I believe. Oh great, Yeah,

53:34

Dietrich bad love that guy. You have

53:36

another question for us? Yeah, absolutely,

53:38

So. I think Scrubs

53:41

means a lot to me because it was one of the first times

53:43

I saw a show reflect

53:45

a part of me that isn't just

53:50

very outward facing. I grew up

53:52

and I had epilepsy, and there's an episode

53:54

where doctor Cox treats a patient who

53:56

has epilepsy, and I

53:58

believe that the seat is she doesn't want

54:01

to take her medicine or isn't taking

54:03

her medicine because she she struggles with letting

54:05

the epilepsy defying

54:08

her and prevent her from being

54:10

a normal teenage girl. And I

54:12

was younger than her when I was dealing a lot with

54:14

it. But it was the first time I really

54:16

remember seeing a part of myself

54:18

on a TV show and feeling like, wow, that's you

54:21

know, very core to my identity. So

54:24

for for both of you, when was the first time, you

54:26

know, either of you saw yourself

54:28

reflected in that way? If ever, good

54:32

question you go first? Donald, you

54:35

mean you mean in television shows when we were growing up?

54:37

Or is that what you mean? Yeah, I mean it could

54:39

be growing up, it could have you know, been a while,

54:41

and it could be more present day. Whatever.

54:44

Well I was, I looked at it. I looked at Okay, so

54:46

I look at it a little bit different. I didn't see myself

54:48

and a lot of and a lot of television

54:51

growing up, mainly because there weren't

54:53

a lot of African American people on television, you know what

54:55

I mean. So

54:58

seeing somebody who was like

55:01

me was very hard to come by. You

55:03

know. People said I looked like Todd Bridges

55:05

when I was a kid, but I had nothing in common

55:08

really with what Willis and Arnold

55:10

went through in different

55:12

strokes. It wasn't until a

55:14

different world came out and I was in

55:17

I was. I guess it was my freshman

55:20

year in high school and Dwayne

55:22

Wayne, Dwayne Wayne

55:25

came on television, played by Kadem Hardison,

55:27

and he was the one that had the flip up glasses and

55:29

they were so in love with Denise from The Cosby

55:32

Show, Lisa Bonnet. He was so in love with

55:34

that character, and I

55:36

felt like, that's who I

55:38

I'm that guy. That's he had a bunch of energy.

55:41

He was really charismatic, and

55:43

girls looked at him not necessarily

55:45

as the hot guy, they looked at him as the

55:49

friend. And

55:51

I was drawn to Dwayne

55:54

Wayne so much so that I bought the glasses.

55:57

You did you were? I would wear

55:59

the flip up. Now, remember I went to the professional

56:01

children's school. So there's me and

56:04

maybe three other black kids in the four other

56:06

black kids in the school or in my

56:08

in the upper school at the time, in the high

56:10

school at the time, and so a

56:13

wearing I

56:15

would wear the glasses. And I'm sure these guys were

56:17

like, this motherfucker came up in here with the

56:19

fucking Dwayne Wayne. It's

56:21

a funnier story if they're all if you're all four of

56:23

you're walking around. Yeah. Anyway,

56:26

So Dwayne Wayne Kadeem Hardison

56:28

when he showed up, he had such an

56:30

impact on my life because

56:33

I felt like I was looking at myself that

56:35

he was. At one point, he was one of my favorite

56:38

actors in the world. So if he was in a movie

56:40

like White Men Can't Jump, Vampire

56:43

in Brooklyn School Days,

56:45

the list goes on. He was in quite a

56:47

few things when I was younger, I

56:49

would gravitate towards his

56:52

character as the best character's character

56:54

in those projects. I

56:57

was really joining to Anthony Michael Hall. I was just thinking,

56:59

you know, everything he played when he was young

57:02

was how I felt. I felt like the sort of nerdy

57:04

kid who you know, who could

57:06

make people laughed and was you

57:08

know, I made friends by being a class clown,

57:11

you know, and so

57:13

a lot of the parts, whether it was you

57:16

know, Weird Science or sixteen

57:19

Candles or Breakfast Club, I

57:21

really related to him in those movies. I

57:24

really wanted to be Ferres Bueller more than anything.

57:26

Like when I saw Ferres Bueller's Day Off, I was like, man,

57:30

I wish I was that cool, Like I wanted to be Ferres

57:33

and John Cusack in Say Anything,

57:35

I wanted to be him. All of those movies

57:37

are big parts of my our big parts

57:39

of my youth. Yeah you say anything,

57:42

Freaking sixteen Candles,

57:45

Weird Science, you

57:48

know, the list goes on. All those

57:50

John Hughes movies were huge

57:53

for me. The only problem I had with them was

57:55

that there were no black people in it, right,

57:58

you know what I mean? But those

58:00

movies, like you know a

58:03

lot of the music that a lot of the songs, I

58:05

didn't even know all of the words to the songs, but I

58:07

knew, you know, when Lloyd did

58:09

you should uh was what was the

58:11

song that he did? Uh? Stop

58:14

wait a minute, I knew

58:16

you Yeah, is that what that is? You should?

58:18

Let me. No, No, that's a little. That's

58:20

a Mario. These just stamp

58:22

fantas. Just ain't words that I'm

58:25

spending. I knew that he sampled

58:28

ah, Papa,

58:32

I know this must

58:36

be true, right, much

58:39

is true? And he goes baa

58:42

baa, She's

58:44

fun. But I

58:48

want you and I mean

58:50

and nobody knew what that ship

58:52

was from. But because of my love of all of these

58:55

John Hughes movies and stuff, I knew where

58:57

they sampled you.

59:01

Huh, it's called you. It's from two thousand

59:03

and six. Another

59:06

one another? Do

59:16

you have another one? Do you have another? One? Another?

59:18

One? Another one? Do have

59:21

another one? Um? So,

59:24

Zach got a lot of flak for having

59:26

not seen Remember the Titans up until a

59:28

couple of weeks ago. So I've

59:31

been thinking a lot about

59:34

some of Zach's philmography. Donald, I know

59:36

you have some kids. Have you seen Chicken

59:38

Little? Yes? Okay,

59:41

I went from one Little? Did you really

59:43

did? A lot of people will be surprised,

59:45

Devon. They don't know that I'm the voice of Chicken Little.

59:48

There's a Here's a thing, Here's a thing, Devin. You

59:51

can name pretty much any movie Zach's been

59:53

in I've seen it. That's not true. Okay,

59:58

what's the one you did with Michael Weston? And uh?

1:00:01

The last kiss? You like that one? No, there's another one

1:00:03

that you two did together way before you were ever um

1:00:06

um getting to know you? Who was

1:00:08

the other? Who was the Yeah,

1:00:11

she was in that I've seen that movie. Uh.

1:00:13

He also he also did a movie

1:00:16

called The Broken Hearts Club. Yep, broken

1:00:18

Heart seen that movie? Seen that movie? Uh?

1:00:21

He also did. Uh like we

1:00:23

could go down his whole resume. I promise

1:00:25

you, I've seen everything.

1:00:27

I didn't read Garden State, but I'm

1:00:29

not a strong reader. I did read. I did,

1:00:32

I did? Uh? I did? Did

1:00:34

you see Going in Style? What?

1:00:39

Yes, I've seen. You didn't watch. I've

1:00:41

watched. I've now watched Going in Style. I

1:00:43

did not see it in the theaters though. Oh that's fucked

1:00:45

up, dude, No it's not. It's the truth. Though. I'm

1:00:47

my first big studio movie I directed, and you didn't go see.

1:00:50

You know your first big movie you directed was

1:00:52

Garden State. No, I'm saying my first. It was my first

1:00:54

and only so far studio movie. I've

1:00:56

directed it, and I directed these three living

1:00:58

legends. You couldn't fucking find the time to go to the theater.

1:01:02

See, this is what I'm talking about, Devin.

1:01:04

You just started some fucking beef. I've

1:01:06

seen the movie though, because

1:01:08

you fucking rented it. I mean, if you're if you're my

1:01:10

best friend, you're stalking taking the kids. Do

1:01:13

you want me to start naming my movie? Is it?

1:01:15

What movies? You?

1:01:17

Shut the fuck up with this crap, dude,

1:01:20

nobody wants to hear. I'm blowing out the mic.

1:01:22

That's how loud I'm getting right now. Let me turn it down a little

1:01:24

bit. Do you want to start this shit? Do

1:01:26

you really want to start this ship? Do you want

1:01:28

to start this shit about how I've not seen going

1:01:31

in style in theaters. I can name movie

1:01:33

after movie after movie that I've been in

1:01:35

that you've never seen in your life. I've

1:01:37

seen them. I saw Juice in the theater.

1:01:40

No you did it, Yes, you did it. You

1:01:42

did not see Juice in the theater. I did.

1:01:44

I did, although it's cheating. It was in a screening room at

1:01:47

the driarback of Film Center. I was an intern there

1:01:49

and they invited me to see Juice, and

1:01:51

I quite like, you're

1:01:55

full of shit, dude, I know you're

1:01:57

full of shit. I was in high school. I was a

1:02:00

freshman. I was ninth grade when

1:02:02

Juice came out. Oh no, I'm

1:02:04

sorry. I'm sorry. I shut the fuck

1:02:07

up. No, but can I defend myself? I

1:02:09

was thinking. I was thinking of Fresh?

1:02:11

Are you in Fresh? I'm not in Fresh? Oh?

1:02:13

Fresh is good?

1:02:17

Have you guys seen Fresh? It's a very underrated

1:02:20

movie, dude, Fresh? It is very good. Direct

1:02:22

as Yak, who also directed Remember

1:02:24

the Titans. You never seen that, Joel? Have you

1:02:27

seen Fresh? Yeah? Very

1:02:29

good. I want our listeners to go. Directed

1:02:31

by bo As Jakin, who also directed

1:02:34

Remember the Titans? Now? Is that bo as his

1:02:36

first film? I think it may have been. I

1:02:38

think Price Above Rubies was his first. It's

1:02:40

one of those. It's either that one of I think one

1:02:42

of those. He's really a talented guy.

1:02:45

He's very talented. What has he made lately?

1:02:47

Has he made anything lately? That He's written a

1:02:49

lot of the Hostels, he wrote a lot of

1:02:51

The Dusk Till Dawns? Like he he's

1:02:53

changed up a little bit. He's more. He switched

1:02:55

it up a little bit. He's more comic book. Uh got

1:02:58

it? Horror now well, Devin, thank

1:03:00

you for starting this fight. Um, we've got a

1:03:02

good right. I know you

1:03:04

had good intentions and you were trying to make me. You were trying

1:03:06

to tell me under the bus, you know what. I know what you were trying

1:03:09

to do, but you fucked up, Devin, Devin,

1:03:11

I was I was going to send you a message

1:03:14

from from one of those guys, but now you don't

1:03:16

get over. I don't

1:03:18

even know what their names are, but you were gonna get one from

1:03:20

from No GTS kombucha for

1:03:22

you. No No Gts he's been,

1:03:24

he's been ba all right by thank you for coming on my

1:03:31

Um Donald, you know want I laugh at this whole bit

1:03:33

with you giving Judy a bus bass? Did I say

1:03:35

bass? That

1:03:39

was very funny? Did I say not

1:03:41

just a nurse? Right? I

1:03:43

love I love the fact that that's where

1:03:45

Turkey is. He's that invested in

1:03:48

his relationship that he's like, I

1:03:50

know, my girlfriend

1:03:52

could be doing so much better than she is right

1:03:54

now, and if I'm in the way, I want to

1:03:56

get out of the way and help her achieve

1:03:59

whatever it is that she wants to achieve. And

1:04:03

you know, being Turk, he just says

1:04:05

it wrong. I don't want you. I want

1:04:07

you to feel like more than just the nurds, just the

1:04:09

nurse. Did I say just a nurse?

1:04:11

Well, he means as well, he means well, but he keeps

1:04:13

putting his foot in his mouth and she's like, you

1:04:15

know, and she's saying, I love my job. I

1:04:17

love what I do. Why why are people making

1:04:19

it? I'm sure a lot of nurses, I would

1:04:21

imagine, feel this, like it's

1:04:23

such an honor to be a nurse. It's so hard to become

1:04:26

a nurse. And someone's like saying, you

1:04:28

know, it's something with the attitude if you're just a nurse. They're like,

1:04:31

what, how fucking dare you? Do you see? You know, see

1:04:33

Carlos like, do you see the pride that I have in what I

1:04:35

do? Right? And uh? And and I really

1:04:37

like that. I thought she was she was really good

1:04:39

in this episode. Oh she crushed it. Well she you

1:04:41

know, Judy crushes every episode. Uh.

1:04:45

Elliot acknowledges j D's staring

1:04:48

off into space. Yeah, she does.

1:04:50

This episode. There's a funny moment where she says, uh,

1:04:52

you're always starting off to space and I start to stay and then

1:04:54

I go, I don't stare off into space like this, and then

1:04:56

I go right into starry off into space. That was fea.

1:04:59

That's but yeah,

1:05:02

I mean I don't how does

1:05:04

how does one get away with daydreaming

1:05:07

in front of someone when they're

1:05:09

talking like you're doing well, it's exaggerated for this

1:05:11

show, but you know we were all doing that. How many

1:05:13

times are you talking to someone you see them staring off and

1:05:16

then you go hello, like you kind of wave your hand in front

1:05:18

of their face, like I mean, I do it to my wife

1:05:20

all the time, where my wife is talking to me and I'm just

1:05:22

not there, yeah, and she'll be like, did you hear what I

1:05:24

said? I'd be like yeah. She'd be like, repeat what I said, and not just

1:05:26

repeat what the last thing I remember her saying, right,

1:05:29

but you were still zoned out. I was not

1:05:31

there listening. I laughed at low when Kelsel

1:05:33

goes it's not because I got the

1:05:35

name Johnny tattooed on my butt. He's an

1:05:37

old sailor buddy, And if you knew what we went

1:05:39

through, you'd understand. Yeah,

1:05:44

we should talk about the bungee jumping thing,

1:05:46

which we've mentioned on this podcast before,

1:05:48

but two things I noticed this time that

1:05:50

you can clearly see that Sarah and I are

1:05:53

safety lined to the bridge and aren't going

1:05:55

anywhere from this bungee jump. If

1:05:58

you pause it, you'll see that there's a style line

1:06:01

that ties us to the bridge, so we're

1:06:03

not going to accidentally fall off. And

1:06:05

then you can also see my mic right

1:06:07

right under my collar. There's a big

1:06:10

there's a there's a big puffy thing that's

1:06:12

my microphone. So there's two a little annoying

1:06:14

wicky scrubs wiki things. Yeah

1:06:16

and um, and so we didn't do this jump,

1:06:19

and the two stunt people who did it met

1:06:22

this day and then got

1:06:24

married. They fell in love in

1:06:26

this moment when they jumped off the bridge

1:06:28

together and are no longer married

1:06:30

now. And now now we learned the sad part

1:06:32

of the story that they got divorced, but

1:06:34

you know, it is pretty romantic that they met this way

1:06:36

at least married for a little while. Yeah.

1:06:39

Absolutely, you know, I

1:06:41

just to go back a little bit. I really thought that

1:06:43

was really great of Elliott.

1:06:46

You know, she's always being rescued in these

1:06:48

shows by you. You're always you know

1:06:50

what I mean, And this is the one time where

1:06:53

you're I told you so backfires

1:06:56

on you, and and and yes,

1:06:58

she definitely, you know,

1:07:02

rases you a little bit for it, but

1:07:04

in the end she's such a good friend. She's

1:07:06

like, you know, we all

1:07:08

need to take It's just like I was saying from

1:07:10

the beginning when I did the when I did

1:07:13

the recap. We all need to take chances,

1:07:15

is what Eliot's saying. And here's one

1:07:18

that here's one that's perfect for us.

1:07:20

This is going to scare the shit out of you. We're going to jump

1:07:22

off of a bridge together, but I'll be there

1:07:24

with you. I think

1:07:26

that's I think it's an important life lesson that the show

1:07:28

tells people is the importance of not just

1:07:31

sitting on the stands, of getting on the court,

1:07:33

as they say, and participating and playing big.

1:07:35

And these are a lot of life lessons my father

1:07:38

used to give me about being brave

1:07:40

and making bold choices and swinging

1:07:43

for the fences and asking the question you're

1:07:45

positive someone's going to say no too, But like just

1:07:47

going for putting yourself out there over and

1:07:49

over and over again, and and reaping the rewards

1:07:52

when when you very

1:07:54

often get

1:07:56

good results from it. Yeah, and Jade's

1:07:58

not of that, you know, when we've start off.

1:08:00

J JD is a let's wait and see type

1:08:03

of person. And it's

1:08:07

true, you know, let's

1:08:09

wait and see only gets you to seeing

1:08:12

what happens. It doesn't necessarily make

1:08:14

it so that you're in control of anything that happens.

1:08:18

And certainly not Nothing exciting and new is

1:08:20

going to happen that way, Nothing that's going to change your life.

1:08:22

It's gonna You can't just sit back and wait for life

1:08:24

to happen to you. You have to

1:08:27

seize the day. Car car Bay dim as they

1:08:29

as they say in Dead Poets Society,

1:08:32

seize the day,

1:08:34

Oh captain, my captain, um um.

1:08:37

I wanted to point out lastly that I

1:08:40

was surprised to know this far in it's very

1:08:43

clear that Cox is still pining for

1:08:45

Carlo. You

1:08:48

think, so, oh yeah, dude, he doesn't

1:08:50

go with Heather Lockleer's character, even

1:08:52

though Heather Lockleer is literally hitting

1:08:55

on him and he's single and she's single,

1:08:57

and she's sitting provocatively on the front of

1:08:59

his car, and he doesn't go with her,

1:09:02

and then uh, and then you see

1:09:04

him kind of staring at Judy

1:09:06

and being like, you

1:09:09

know, I think it's pretty clear to

1:09:11

me, and my interpretation was that he's still sort

1:09:13

of pining over her, and when

1:09:16

she talks about her love

1:09:18

for you, he then he

1:09:21

then has a second thought about

1:09:23

it. I don't think so. I think I disagree.

1:09:25

I think he I'm

1:09:28

sure there's still feelings for Carla.

1:09:30

Cox still has feelings for Carla, but I

1:09:32

think he's put them aside, because

1:09:35

even at the dinner when she's like, I love the

1:09:37

fact that I'm at this dinner

1:09:39

right now. My boyfriend's trying

1:09:41

to eat his weight and meat. He's

1:09:43

bought his best friend with him this,

1:09:45

you know, and doctor Cox wants

1:09:48

something that's not on the menu, wants to eat

1:09:50

something that's not on the menu, something like that, and

1:09:52

she's talking about Heather, and then he turns around and he's

1:09:54

like what he's

1:09:57

because he wasn't paying attention. He was staring

1:09:59

at have a Lockleyer's character. No,

1:10:02

I that wasn't my interpretation. My interpretation

1:10:04

is that he's Uh. He goes and

1:10:06

has a heart to heart with her. In when

1:10:08

you're lying on the bed because your stomach hurts

1:10:10

in the hospital, they have like

1:10:12

a bit of a heart to heart and you're talking about how much

1:10:15

you you she's talking about how much

1:10:17

she loves you, and then he yeah, but look he

1:10:19

looks sad for a minute, like like if

1:10:22

you look at twenty two thirty seven, he's got this sad

1:10:24

look on his face that to me reads

1:10:27

I really need to let this go. This woman's

1:10:29

in love with Turk. I don't know why

1:10:31

I'm still pining for her. Fuck

1:10:34

it, I'm gonna go meet Heather at the bar and maybe

1:10:36

have a one night stand. Who knows, but but

1:10:39

I have to start moving on. I didn't see

1:10:41

it as that. I saw it as a friend

1:10:43

who and not we could dead this after this.

1:10:45

But I saw it as a friend who listened

1:10:48

to what was said. Turk

1:10:51

went ahead and try to get her involved

1:10:53

in a program that would grant

1:10:56

her more power at the hospital,

1:10:58

and Cox is like, dude, why don't you fucking

1:11:01

take your boyfriend up on that Offer's that's

1:11:03

a you'd crush that shit. You'd be

1:11:06

really good at it, And she's

1:11:08

like, of course, i'd be good at it. I know i'd

1:11:10

be good at it. I'm you know, I

1:11:13

take pride in my job, and

1:11:16

the time that

1:11:19

would be needed for me to crush all

1:11:21

of this would be time away from Turk and

1:11:23

I don't want to. I don't want time away from Turk. Well, it's

1:11:25

up for interpretation. And if you're listening

1:11:27

to this, um, you

1:11:29

probably have your own opinion. Or if you don't remember, you

1:11:31

can go back and check it out. That's

1:11:34

it. Thank you for listening. Everybody, don't

1:11:36

forget to get the ring tones, because everybody needs

1:11:39

a ring tone. Everyone needs Donald going mmmmm

1:11:42

as your notification. That right

1:11:44

there is what I'm talking

1:11:46

about. Yes, another

1:11:48

one, That's what I'm talking about. That's

1:11:51

that's what I'm talking about. Another

1:11:53

one. We could just Donald and I could just make

1:11:56

up notification ideas

1:11:58

for people's phones all day long. We should put

1:12:00

this out there. Do you want That's what

1:12:02

I'm talking about As a ring tone? I

1:12:04

can. That's what I'm talking about. And you know what

1:12:07

I mean. As imagine

1:12:09

your phone going, you know what I mean. You know what I

1:12:11

mean. You know what I mean. We're just gonna keep putting ring

1:12:13

tones, you know, or imagine your phone going.

1:12:16

That's what I'm talking about. That's

1:12:18

what I'm talking about. That's

1:12:20

what I'm talking about. Okay, how could

1:12:22

that not get annoying? Yeah, annoying

1:12:25

in a good way. Um, thank you everybody

1:12:27

for listening. Uh, we love you, We

1:12:29

appreciate you. You can try

1:12:31

and ask a question by emailing Joelle

1:12:34

at scrubs iHeart at

1:12:36

gmail dot com. Joel

1:12:39

is very popular on there. I imagine Joelle,

1:12:42

people try and try and bribe

1:12:44

you, like the pharmaceutical reps. They say, let

1:12:46

me buy you sushi. Had three proposals,

1:12:49

so it's very popping.

1:12:51

Oh yeah, your first time you had

1:12:53

sushi. Speaking of sushi, I had sushi

1:12:55

two nights ago.

1:12:56

As

1:13:00

y'all. Don't y'all like warm sushi. It

1:13:02

doesn't come No, it doesn't come warm,

1:13:04

Daniel, you agree with this. I

1:13:06

mean, I'll say this. I'm very lucky. I I

1:13:09

should probably. I live very close to

1:13:11

a sugarfish, so I'm more or less

1:13:13

walking distanced. So you could just get that box. Get

1:13:15

that box, that box, all

1:13:18

right, guys, We love you. Be

1:13:20

safe, wear a mask, be kind,

1:13:23

Donald count send me

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count us out, Donald count

1:13:28

us out. Stories

1:13:31

about show we made about

1:13:34

a bunch of dots and nurses. And I

1:13:38

said, he's a stories. So

1:13:44

get around you here are yea

1:13:46

around here?

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