0:01

Hey, guys, it's Joel and I

0:03

know this isn't what you're usually used to hearing

0:05

when you turn on Fake Doctor's Real Friends,

0:08

but it's Thanksgiving weekend

0:10

and the guys needed a break. Daniel

0:12

needed some rest, Zach needed a break.

0:15

Uh you know, Donald's probably hitting

0:17

that peloton before the Turkey comes. We

0:21

are tired, but

0:23

we also know that you guys have missed

0:25

hearing from us, And to be honest, we don't

0:27

like leaving me without an episode. It doesn't

0:29

leave a good feeling in our stomach. So

0:32

this week I decided to round

0:34

up my four favorite fan calls, can

0:37

dense them into one episode and call it

0:39

fan appreciation. Guys,

0:41

your messages, your beautiful

0:44

artwork. You know, I

0:46

don't know if you guys know this, but you're a part

0:48

of the show. Um. When we pitched to advertisers,

0:51

when we talk to people at large about

0:53

the show, it's first

0:56

Zack Ocdonald's relationship. That's obviously

0:59

the first pillar that everyone

1:01

looks to. It's our guiding light, is

1:03

the love between those two. But the second

1:05

thing we talk about, it's always you guys. It's

1:08

the fun that you bring to the show that our favorite

1:10

fan calls. You know, we look forward to

1:13

those every week, and so this

1:15

week we're gonna honor you, guys, honor the

1:17

fans, the people we are thankful

1:19

for. UM. So

1:21

yeah, I'm really looking forward to this. I picked

1:23

some calls, and the funny

1:26

thing I noticed about the calls is that all

1:28

of them have like special

1:31

guests on. So it's not

1:33

just you know, Bill, who we love, we

1:35

have his first call on here, but you know, also

1:37

Shay, there's something special in those

1:39

episodes that goes beyond just

1:43

our typical episodes. When we have a guest

1:45

on, we're getting other

1:47

stories, we're getting new perspectives. We

1:49

always learn a little something about ourselves.

1:52

And when you add the fan call to that, it's chaos.

1:54

We never know what's going to happen. And it's

1:56

turned out some of our very most

1:59

best, our most memorable

2:01

experiences. So I

2:04

collected them here to share with you. I hope you guys

2:06

enjoy and without further ado five

2:08

six, seven eight, he's

2:15

sorry about show

2:17

we made nar

2:24

story. The

2:40

first fan call I chose came from

2:43

Mark. Now this is all the way back in

2:45

season one, episode three, and

2:47

what I loved about Mark's call was

2:49

that he got into the idea of what guy love

2:52

meant to a lot of straight guys. And

2:54

it's extra fund because Bill is here, and he

2:56

called Mark an evil villain for having

2:58

a cat in his lap. Delightful,

3:01

enjoyed this relic. Bill, we take

3:03

a caller here on on our show, and

3:05

it looks like, by the way, I just thought it was

3:07

a super villain because it is as

3:10

as a as a gentleman. That is a

3:13

cat. For

3:15

you guys listening at home, his

3:17

picture came up on Zoom and he's petting

3:19

a cat, like like the evil genes you

3:24

all are enjoying talking about your show. Well,

3:26

I have bad news, all

3:29

right, Joel, go ahead and introduce him.

3:31

Yes, Hi, Mark, thanks so much for joining

3:33

us. Hi everyone, how are you?

3:35

Can you hear me? Yes, we can here. You

3:38

just find Marks. My first ever Zoom meeting.

3:40

I've never done this. I'm glad it's working. I'm glad

3:42

you're here. Well, Mark, you picked a good

3:44

episode to beyond

3:46

because we have the creator of the whole show,

3:48

Bill Lawrence. So if you have a question

3:51

for any of us, go ahead, Well,

3:53

Hellogan Lawrence, and hello all of you. That's awesome.

3:56

It's so glad, where do you live.

3:58

By the way, I'm

4:00

on the northwest side of Chicago up and uh

4:03

Avandale Old Irving Park area. Shout

4:05

to stand up. We're just talking about Neil Flynn.

4:07

That's where that's the area of the world that he is from, my

4:10

friend, but not

4:12

your specific area. But he's from

4:14

Chicago. But he was not like downstairs right

4:16

now. No, no no, no, no, I mean he could

4:18

be alright ahead, Mark all right. Even

4:21

from the earliest episodes, Scrubs

4:23

wasn't afraid to raise social issues and

4:25

took a clear stance that I thought prioritized

4:28

like well being of people over

4:30

the economics and insurance bureaucracy.

4:33

I felt like this helped a lot of young people, myself

4:35

included, start thinking about the human side of health

4:37

care and healthcare like as a human right

4:39

for the first time and sort of some of those more serious

4:41

issues. So I was just wondering if you guys

4:43

were called any specific moments

4:45

from production episodes or moments on set

4:47

that might have changed your influence to the way

4:50

you guys view the sort of work done by your

4:52

characters, or just sort of the health care system

4:54

as all that. Don And

4:57

and Zach answer this for the show. I

5:00

will tell you I've been thinking

5:02

about this a lot lately, Mark, because the

5:05

real j D and my pal we

5:08

were both kind of screw ups with a lot with very

5:10

little direction as young guys. And I remember

5:12

asking him what the hell he was doing going back

5:14

to pre med, and he talked about

5:17

wanting to be of service, you

5:19

know, and his viewpoint right

5:22

now, you know, not to make this two

5:24

point yet, um. I faced time with him

5:26

every night when he gets off work because he's running

5:28

the COVID command center, he's running the whole i CU for

5:30

this hospital, as we spoke about, and it helps

5:32

him decompress and not take that stuff into his

5:34

family. And he

5:37

as a caregiver cares so much more

5:40

about the humanistic side than any

5:42

any of this other bullshit. And he instilled that upon

5:44

me, and he said we could steal

5:47

all of his stories, but we could

5:49

never have a callousness. He

5:51

said, he was only interested in me stealing

5:54

his stories and his life and his name. If

5:58

the undercurrent of the show was

6:00

that it was about a bunch of people

6:02

flaws and all that cared most

6:04

about helping and taking care of other people. So

6:07

that was part of the series, and I'll we have

6:09

the rest to Donald and Zach. That's cool

6:11

that you asked, because I think about him every day. He's

6:13

out there doing stuff much more important

6:16

of course, and and and and it's it's the perfect

6:18

question for this era, Mark because these

6:21

these these medical professionals and everyone

6:23

who's working in the industry, whether you're a doctor,

6:25

a nurse, or a janitor,

6:28

a medic, everyone who's in this environment

6:30

is uh has as

6:33

as the world is finally seeing in

6:35

the spotlight how heroic these people are.

6:37

And I think I always felt when we were

6:40

making this show that Bill was really

6:42

shining a light on how

6:44

dedicated these these folks were and

6:46

how they had to deal with life and death every single day.

6:48

One thing that released stood out for me when you when

6:51

you asked your question was the I remember

6:53

learning that the nurses really run the show.

6:56

Um. I hadn't spent much time in a hospital when we

6:58

started making Scrubs, and I

7:01

learned that the doctors

7:04

can't do it without the nurses. And

7:06

the nurses are the ones who are on

7:08

the front lines, and the doctors have to be rotating

7:11

and they can't do anything without the help of

7:13

amazing nurses. It wasn't until I

7:15

spent more time in hospitals with my both

7:17

my father and my sister getting sick that I

7:20

really I And this was after Scrubbs, but I remember

7:22

being like, Wow, this is everything we were doing is

7:24

so real. I'm witnessing it on the front lines. That

7:27

we see that doctor like every now and then,

7:29

But man, these nurses and when we have a good

7:31

one, it is such a difference, and and and make

7:34

puts a smile on my sick father's face.

7:36

And when we have one that's a little bit aloof

7:38

it just drives you crazy. And I just

7:40

really, um, it really came home

7:43

to me everything we have been doing on the

7:45

show, how crucial and how important

7:47

of the people on the front lines, particularly in this anecdote

7:50

I'm telling the nursing staff of of hospitals

7:52

were to me. The one thing that really sticks

7:54

out for me is to piggyback on what

7:57

Bill said, is you

7:59

know, for some hospitals, if you don't have

8:01

insurance, you can't

8:03

get treated. And the one thing

8:05

that Scrubs did which I thought was amazing

8:07

was we had a bunch of the doctors

8:10

on the show, we're a bunch of rule breakers.

8:12

Benders, especially when it came to something

8:14

like that, you know what I mean. That was

8:16

always special for me because

8:19

you know, a lot of people don't have great

8:22

insurance, especially right

8:24

now, a lot of people don't have it and any

8:27

insurance at all, and Test any

8:29

insurance at all, thank you, Zach. And Test costs a

8:31

lot of money, you know what I mean. And

8:33

if there are rule breakers and rule benders

8:36

out there that can save lives

8:38

in that way, I'm I'm all for

8:41

that, you know what I mean. And I love that we had

8:43

people on the show like Dr Cox. When Kelsel

8:45

is trying to get this person out of the hospital, Cox

8:48

comes up with so many different ways to get

8:50

to get this guy in bed, and I thought that was just

8:52

amazing. And Mark the we

8:55

obsessed so much about your question. All

8:57

in terms of the character Dr Kelso

9:00

as an episode you guys

9:02

might remember, I remember the song and the

9:04

scenes that because

9:06

the real j D he runs a hospital now and

9:08

he's like and you're forced with having to make these

9:10

decisions for the greater good. And there's

9:12

an episode in which Dr Kelso, you

9:14

know, it has to punt a guy you

9:17

know, from treatment that

9:19

they don't have insurance to have money in an

9:21

effort to still build other stuff

9:23

and to have money to save other people. And

9:26

we made this joke about

9:28

how every time Dr Kelso's

9:30

foot hits the bottom of the stairs when he leaves

9:32

the hospital, he starts whistling as if

9:34

the day doesn't even affect him. And at the end

9:36

of that episode, even he because he

9:38

knew he was directly responsible for his guy

9:40

not getting care, his foot

9:43

hits and he he has a moment you can see it's really

9:45

hard for him to start whistling again. There's a Citizen

9:47

Cope song called Sideways playing,

9:49

and so we just wanted to make sure that

9:52

the people weren't the villains and that the system

9:54

was So yeah, I'm really grateful that you noticed

9:56

that and asked about it. Awesome. Thank you guys for giving

9:58

such a detailed, great sponses. Uh.

10:01

I think it just speaks to how much you guys

10:04

feel for this show and put into this show. It really

10:06

comes across and I think that's why I've been such a big fan for

10:08

so long. So thank you, Thank you, Mark,

10:10

Thanks so much for asking your question. Do you

10:12

want to ask another question? Oh? Sure,

10:15

all right, you get one more. All right.

10:18

So this episode episode three, uh,

10:21

and the show as a whole, I think has a lot of

10:23

moments that exemplify

10:25

really healthy, often sensitive

10:28

male relationships. Both your guys is Turk

10:30

and j D Uh and j D and

10:32

Dr Cox and other ones. And I was

10:34

just wondering if you guys could maybe talk a little bit about

10:37

what was important to you guys to have positive

10:39

sort of emotional moments between rows

10:43

and how that might have affected your real life friendship.

10:45

I think that's a great question. I'm glad you asked

10:47

it with Bill on the show because for me,

10:50

I really felt in a positive way. Granted

10:52

we we joked about it a lot, but I

10:54

thought in a positive way we were showing you

10:57

know, when we were growing up. I mean when Donald. I'm

11:00

Bill's a smidgen older than us, but when Donald and I

11:02

were growing up, you know, anything you did that

11:04

was a motive towards guy,

11:07

you were called gay and it was derogatory

11:09

and it was negative, and it was just an adjective

11:11

in high school and junior high and middle school and

11:13

everything was and I always as

11:15

someone who was it's not no surprise

11:18

I'm similar in a lot of ways to j D. I

11:20

always felt like, but this is who

11:23

who I am. I am a guy who is a

11:25

hugger and who's emotional and where's his heart in

11:27

his sleeve and loves musicals, who happens

11:29

to be a heterosexual. And

11:32

I felt like Bill wrote a character a friendship

11:34

that was like, well, we're gonna show that

11:36

that's okay to men in a way,

11:39

because I I've noticed it in my life, you know

11:41

the fact that Donald and I would hug and stuff.

11:43

You know, I did a Broadway show and and

11:45

Scrubs fans would come to the to the stage

11:48

door and they'd be like, j D, can I have a hug? And

11:50

I would always kind of laugh. It was almost like the

11:52

show was giving a certain

11:54

community of men telling them that it

11:56

was okay too. You're not gonna

11:59

no matter what you're actuality is, who cares. It's

12:01

not gonna be threatened by being like

12:03

g D, just being who you truly are.

12:06

And I I always thought that

12:08

that was was a really positive thing

12:10

that that Bill put out there. Yeah. I

12:12

love that. I love the fact that the two of them

12:14

were so comfortable around each other that

12:16

they could be like brothers and lie

12:18

in the same bed in their underwear and

12:21

it not be a thing for them,

12:23

you know what I mean? I I like that and I

12:26

think that storyline definitely

12:29

transferred into my real life with

12:31

Zach, you know what I mean, Like, I feel

12:33

like my comfortability about

12:35

being around other men, uh

12:38

and and not being afraid to

12:41

be who I am and except

12:43

who they are is all because of Scrubs,

12:46

you know what I mean. I I've played best

12:48

friends in other

12:50

projects, and you know, you play

12:53

the tough guy, etcetera, etcetera.

12:55

But with these guys, none of that stuff

12:57

mattered. What mattered was that they loved each other

12:59

at the to to day, and I

13:01

I cherished the fact that I can have friendships

13:04

with men and I can say to them

13:07

I love you and not be looked

13:09

at as a bad thing. It's

13:11

a weird topic for me because you

13:14

know, j D was based on real j D.

13:16

Donald was based on doctor. But the truth is with

13:19

these two characters anyways, I always joked

13:21

around that I was kind of wrestling with both sides of myself

13:23

because I

13:25

am I played sports

13:28

and was the high school jockey

13:30

type guy that I was

13:33

afraid of this stuff. And on the other side, I

13:35

do Zach and I share a love of Broadway

13:37

musicals. Robin French,

13:39

go Bill VOI pertitude

13:43

alright whatever and uh the

13:47

watch digression

13:51

we'll sing lame is in later episodes. I

13:55

was always wrestling as a young

13:57

man with you know which

13:59

which lane I it in, and wishing

14:02

that it would be easier just to not

14:04

have to pick a lane. And then these

14:06

guys, look, the truth is whatever

14:09

you create a relationship as a writer, it's

14:11

yours for a second, and then the actors,

14:14

if they're great, they wrestle

14:16

ownership from you. And what starts out is

14:19

eight twenty years, you

14:21

know, quickly in this show became fifty

14:23

fifty mine in theirs and then

14:25

became all theirs in a way that

14:27

I would write moments that weren't supposed to be

14:30

romance moments, you know, like whether

14:32

it was them wanting to hug each other, you

14:35

know at the end, and then when I look in the dailies,

14:37

they're rubbing their faces and heads against like

14:40

that's that's my favor.

14:44

My favorite gift is my favorite gift

14:49

whatever. People people

14:51

are always like, you're using gifts of yourself. I'm

14:53

like, yeah, that one I do because it looks like

14:55

you wanted to smell each other. Dude, that really

14:58

looks like I think one of you ad

15:00

lived in that you smell like an athlete and

15:02

in a way that you're just so happy.

15:05

So my point is I was

15:07

doing it as an intellectual exercise, and these

15:09

guys made it something more. And it's all about their

15:12

You get lucky on a TV show when what

15:14

you're watching feels even more real because

15:17

the undercurrent of it, their intense friendship is

15:19

reel. You know. I also

15:21

like that when we meet people

15:24

nowadays, they're so eager to talk

15:26

about their best friend and how much they love

15:28

their best friend, you know what I mean, And

15:31

that that that makes me feel great. You know, he's

15:33

the brown bear to my vanilla bear, or you

15:35

know what I mean. I honestly think it gave us

15:38

a certain community

15:40

of men who watched the show and we're open

15:42

to it, sort of permission to

15:44

to to be more true to who they

15:47

were as Mark if you want to, if you want

15:49

to indulge my version of googling my own name

15:51

is all occasionally go looking at all these wedding

15:54

videos where the best man sings guy love

15:56

to the groom. They're fantastic

15:58

there's like a thousand of them out there, and

16:00

it always starts with a fake

16:03

set up. He's like, you know, I was trying to think of wet to toast

16:05

and what to blah ba blah, than I thought it's probably better

16:07

to do in song. There it days the facts and

16:09

then the groom. The groom always stands up with a

16:11

microphone too, because they've rehearsed it twenty

16:13

times. And I'm at home by myself, just going

16:16

like this plouding.

16:19

I love it, all right, Mark, thank you for two

16:21

awesome questions. Thanks man, alright,

16:26

Mark, Hey, stay safe, buddy, be

16:28

healthy. We will be right

16:30

back after someone who talks

16:33

to you,

16:41

and we are back. Yeah,

16:44

wasn't that so cute? Oh

16:46

my god, I want to die adorable.

16:49

Um okay, so now

16:51

we're gonna skip all the way ahead to three

16:54

oh five. This was one

16:56

of my favorite kists. Kate

16:58

came on and blew all of y'all away.

17:01

I have literally never received as

17:03

many Twitter notifications,

17:05

Instagram d ms asking about Kate

17:08

and her story. I chose

17:10

Kate because she wrote to me and said that

17:12

she was breastfeeding and that the latching situation

17:15

was as we described on the show,

17:17

and so I thought it would be fun to like maybe trip

17:19

up the guys with, you know, an actual

17:22

breastfeeding mom. But came on and

17:24

blew us all away, and then I had had great conversation

17:26

with Casey oh man. I really enjoyed

17:28

this conversation. So, without further ado,

17:31

here's Kate and

17:33

we're bad

17:42

mom Donald phase on and we just connected

17:45

to boys.

17:49

She's pulling a Sara chalk you. You're muted now,

17:52

very Sarah chalk ESQ. Now

17:55

one step away from dropping your iPad on the

17:58

tub. No, no, no, can't

18:00

hit the microphone on the bottom left. The microphone on the bottom

18:02

left. Hey, you see that red might change your

18:05

yea. Chell

18:08

I warned you in my email that I'm kind of like a real

18:11

life Elliott, and I just knew this would

18:13

happen. I knew this would happen. I'm

18:16

gonna say something. It looked like you

18:18

gave up even before we said I'm

18:24

gonna do fake doctors anymore. I don't even want to do fake

18:26

doctors. I don't want

18:28

to be on the show anyway. It's very hard to get

18:30

on this show. I don't think you give up if your MIC's on

18:32

mute just for a second. I think you re right,

18:35

yoel you you should focus. Yeah,

18:38

you shift through a lot of people

18:40

that want to be on this program. I

18:43

am. I am so prepared. I mean I

18:45

have like a hair band, a mask

18:47

of Martini, a water bottle. This

18:50

isn't, this is this isn't. Let's make a deal.

18:52

You're not going to ke those things. I

18:54

mean, I'm I'm currently hiding from my

18:56

family like you Donald and like I have

18:58

been sitting here like you're not

19:01

going to funk this up. Listen,

19:05

no, listen in all seriousness, Kate, there's

19:07

no wrong answer. All right, if you say anything

19:10

horrible, it'll be amazing.

19:12

People love it. I

19:15

think I think. Okay, so you like to go by Zelinsky.

19:18

Oh well, my my, sometimes when I'm

19:20

ad at myself, I call myself by my maiden name,

19:22

which is Riley. Um.

19:24

So that's why I stuttered, because I usually

19:27

when I'm like Riley.

19:29

You know, that's like very

19:31

ELLIOTTSK, very moving to be very elliotsk.

19:33

That was that was a lot like Elliot. Seriously,

19:37

Yeah, it's it's it's real. It's it's

19:39

not a great way to go through life. Guys. Well,

19:43

welcome to the program. It's called Fake Doctor's

19:45

Real Friends. We have the legendary writer

19:48

and uh and personality.

19:50

What are you besides the writer Shaw, You're a philanthropist.

19:54

You're a writer, You're a philanthropist. You're

19:56

a Twitter superstar. Uh,

20:03

writer, philanthropist, writer, philanthropist.

20:05

First, then Twitter Superstar has only

20:07

fans if you're interested, like you's

20:11

only fans, all right, Donald, have you ever been

20:13

on an only fans? I don't think we're allowed on them. No, I'm

20:16

not allowed on the only fans with I don't think our women.

20:18

I don't think our women would support. Well,

20:20

you're paying money. I wonder. I

20:22

wonder, I really do wonder

20:25

what only fans is like, because it can't

20:27

just be somebody on only fans

20:29

just sitting there naked like this is what I

20:31

do. Well. Isn't it just like I don't

20:33

know Joel's do you know what it is? Isn't it just like a strip

20:36

club but someone's hose a. You gotta go to Joel because

20:38

you can. To me, I've lived with a lot of sex

20:40

workers over the year, camboys, girls

20:42

and such. Let's

20:45

talk about that. Sorry

20:48

wait, sorry,

20:50

you can mute your mic again. Not too.

20:52

Well, you live with sex Joel,

20:57

y'all know nothing about Wow, that sounds

20:59

like a good podcast. Uh yeah,

21:01

one day I'll talk about my college days.

21:04

But yeah, the kids, you know, they

21:07

enjoy it. They love they love the only fans

21:09

and yeah, it's just it's just amateur porn

21:11

essentially. But the cool thing about only fans you're

21:13

paying the sex worker directly

21:16

as opposed to a large company or

21:18

getting it for free. So

21:20

the cam sorry to interrupted the cam

21:22

things they take a giant cut, whereas this goes

21:24

directly to the person and they

21:27

can control how much it charges and all

21:29

of that stuff. So there's some issues with the app that

21:31

I'm not, you know, knowledgeable enough to talk about

21:33

it. But do you think that don

21:36

make like two four millions

21:39

very controversially million,

21:41

not twenty four million? How much did she make

21:45

something like twenty something millions? Because

21:48

she's two millions. Then she said she wasn't

21:50

gonna do anything newde and everyone was like, well, then

21:52

when do we all pay for And then she was like right,

21:55

pretty much pretty much, Hi,

21:58

Kate, joke, sorry,

22:03

go ahead. Were well,

22:05

I don't know if you picked me because of my signs

22:08

or because of my situation

22:10

or we give ne situations and then

22:12

signed because I really got it. Yeah,

22:14

okay, well um Zack,

22:17

I I am so touched

22:19

at how protective you are of

22:22

we nursing mothers who are fans

22:24

of the show, because

22:27

you know, people will tell you even in like which

22:30

like you know, way to go league

22:32

and everything, but they'll tell you, you know, breastfeeding

22:35

is the thing in the world, and it's like, Nope,

22:37

it's hard. It's really hard for a lot

22:40

of us. Not everyone can do it, and we just have to feed

22:42

our babies. And the latch thing is

22:44

real, the open wound nipples

22:46

thing is real, and it's you're

22:49

sobbing at five in the morning trying to give

22:51

your child nourishment. And so I don't

22:53

listen to your podcast while nursing because

22:56

of Donald. But

23:00

I just wanted to ask Joel. I mean

23:02

I listened every week. I'm an enormous fan of the podcast

23:04

in the show. But

23:10

no, no, no, because I want I want the Oprah

23:12

voice Donald, I do. I just don't want

23:14

to have her cake and eat it too, don't.

23:17

She wants the Opra voice. She just doesn't want

23:19

it while she's dealing with that tricky

23:21

latch. Here's what you need, Here's what you

23:23

don't know, okate, Zach was being

23:25

facetious when he talked about

23:28

the latch and everything like that. He

23:30

doesn't care about your nipples. He doesn't

23:32

care I care about kates areolas.

23:34

And let me tell you something. I had so many people

23:36

tell me that that they

23:38

listened while breastfeeding, and I thought it was very

23:41

charming. And of course if I was

23:43

breastfeeding, I would get lost in a good podcast

23:45

too. It's perfect, you

23:47

can't and it's also COVID, so it's not like

23:50

I get an escape by like being like I'm going to go

23:52

to a movie, you know, and sleep in a movie

23:54

theater. There's nothing to do. I'm stuck at home.

23:56

I'm on the couch, I'm nursing, I'm pumping,

23:59

I'm holding my mama's boy,

24:01

baby boy, and so there's not a lot

24:03

to do. But I listened to the podcast in my car

24:05

because I still do my family's grocery shopping.

24:08

And I listened in my car, and I sit

24:10

in the grocery store parking lot with the drive

24:12

through coffee for like ten or fifteen

24:15

extra minutes. And then I get home and I'm like

24:17

the lines were so long because

24:20

I'm just hiding from my So you guys are my escape,

24:23

and that's what I told you. Well, thank you. You

24:25

have a decision to make things because I will

24:27

make a promise to you right now that I won't

24:29

yell anymore, so you can listen while you're breastfeeding.

24:32

No, don't do that. I

24:34

would, I would never. I cannot take

24:36

I would give you that, or I will give you

24:39

the parking lot? Which one? Do you know?

24:42

I Because if I took away the Oprah

24:45

introductions from all future guests, I

24:47

would I would hate myself. I would

24:49

be a lot of people only listen to the showing

24:51

to hear Donald's Opra voice. Kate Zelinsky,

24:54

fuck them. It's all about you, Kate,

24:58

and only you. You can think

25:00

this is the first thing that's been about

25:02

only me since myke Toildler's

25:04

school shut down and my job

25:07

ended with in March, Like this is

25:09

the thing that is, this is the only thing that's been only

25:11

me. Kate, you sound like my wife. Hold

25:13

on, I'm gonna go get her. Don't go get your

25:16

wife. Why are you getting her? Oh? Jesus,

25:19

what is oh? Because I know why? Because

25:21

she's fixing the rant about

25:24

Donald not helping enough. And I

25:27

bet he thinks this is going to be some couples counseling

25:29

if he lets her rants on the show. These

25:32

people didn't tune in for fucking Donald's

25:34

couples counseling. Tuned in for a Scrubs

25:36

podcast. Um, Kate, where

25:38

do you live? I live in Richmond,

25:40

Virginia. Um, but I'm

25:43

currently the reason I have like

25:45

this time to do it. We're currently visiting my

25:47

parents at their um

25:50

lake house in North Carolina. That's

25:52

got to be beautiful a lake house. It's

25:54

wonderful. It's an insane,

25:56

beautiful welcoming house on a beautiful

25:59

lake. It's so used to get away. Okay,

26:01

we're going to jump ahead to fix your life

26:03

real quick. Here's my wife. Uh,

26:09

this is case this is Casey Cobb.

26:11

This is Kate's Zelenski. Ok

26:15

Casey, your hair looks beautiful today. Thanks.

26:18

I got it colored very nice, Kate.

26:21

Kate was just sharing how hard it is to be

26:23

a mom and to have every single one

26:26

of your minutes of your day go

26:28

to taking care of your children and your family.

26:31

And Donald said, let me go get my wife, so

26:34

maybe you can speak to to to how

26:36

you're coping and how you're how you're making

26:38

that work, because I know for a fact Donald

26:40

is necessarily pulling

26:44

his weight. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um

26:48

well, I have to be honest, Kate. Today

26:50

I left and I went and got my hair done for

26:53

you, because you know what, I

26:55

had grays all the way down to my ears,

26:57

and you know what, I knew that

26:59

this the only thing I could do for myself. Granted,

27:03

I came home and there was shit everywhere,

27:06

and the kids

27:09

ate donuts on their lunch break and

27:12

you know, complete shit show, I'm sure,

27:15

but my night. My husband told

27:17

me yesterday I have white trash roots

27:19

because that my hair hasn't been colored since February.

27:21

White trash roots. And I said, Honey, that's so

27:24

lovely of you to tell your nursing

27:26

wife, mother of two, full time everything.

27:29

Oh my god, you're nursing. Oh

27:31

my god, Casey, you told me once

27:33

that you were like, because Kate just told a story about how

27:35

sometimes she listened to the podcast

27:37

and stays extra long in the supermarket parking

27:39

lot, And you told me a story once where you were

27:41

like, I wanted to go with Chick fil

27:43

A, but I chose a Chick fil A like five minutes

27:46

away because I need to bring it

27:49

was. It was literally the day that they

27:51

announced that schools were closing. And we

27:53

are not that schools were closing. They closed, you

27:56

know, in the spring of last year, but then when

27:58

we weren't going back in the ball and

28:01

they they told us and I literally

28:03

just said, I'm going to go pick up Chick fil A for everyone.

28:06

I got in the car and I drove forty

28:08

five minutes to Chick Filight and cried out

28:10

the fire away there. M

28:13

hmm. It's so hard because you know what,

28:16

and I'm sure your husband thinks he's helping, but

28:18

he's not about

28:20

the breastfeeding story. We all know he's

28:22

not. I mean, in fact, in

28:24

fact, we're going on our first date, um

28:27

since October thirty one, two thousand nineteen.

28:29

Tonight. Um, we're at my parents lake

28:32

house. They're going to watch the kids, and we're celebrating our anniversary,

28:34

which was last week. It's our first date

28:36

out. So I put on makeup for the first time

28:38

and dad knows how long. And my husband looked at me and he

28:40

was like, are you in a play tonight?

28:43

And I'm like, you know you just you just you

28:46

just haven't seen me in makeup and ant you

28:50

have to like this husband because my husband is an

28:52

e er physician who actually has a Now

28:54

I like him, but I wish he wasn't a making fun

28:57

of your makeup and be making fun of your roots, those

28:59

two things I don't want and see

29:01

and see. I bet he's still made you have sex

29:03

when you came home. Wow that

29:07

Casey. Okay, this is a guest contest.

29:11

I apologize, Kate. I'm sorry.

29:14

Sometimes it's literally just let

29:16

me have three hours on the couch after

29:18

the kids go to bed, to not talk to me,

29:21

not doing anything, Just let me watch my crappy

29:23

TV and you load the dishwasher

29:26

and and don't even talk to me till the

29:28

next moment. And that sexual And

29:31

then Casey and I text about the true crime

29:33

shows we're watching. Donald Donald doesn't

29:35

watch him, so Casey and I are like the two

29:37

women like drinking our white wine, being like, did you see

29:40

this one? It's

29:42

hard? I mean it is, It's true. It's so hard,

29:44

and I don't I wish I knew how to fix it. But

29:47

no, you can't imagine how happy

29:49

my husband is for me. In this moment,

29:51

he like he has my daughter fishing on the dock,

29:54

my mom has my ten week old son. Like

29:56

he was like get your shower, like get you ready,

29:59

like he you know, like he had me go

30:01

shopping for a dress for our date tonight. You like

30:03

sent me to an outdoor mall with my mask.

30:05

Like he is actually exact, Like he is the most

30:07

supportive, incredible guy. I'm liking

30:09

him a little more. You had me at doctor. He

30:12

is an e R doctor with a second specialty in

30:14

hospice and palliative care. And

30:19

I've been through it. I know I've been through it with my

30:21

my dad and my sisters, so I know who they are and

30:23

I and actually yeah, so

30:25

yeah, okay, I like him again. Just tell him not to make fun

30:27

of your fucking roots. You know, you know what, it's just

30:29

kind of like Casey, you understand, like Donald

30:31

says all the time, like you know, it's kind of fun to ship

30:34

talk your husband. You love him more than life itself,

30:36

but it's just so fun to every once in a while be like I

30:39

hate I

30:41

do it more than I probably should. But

30:45

tell him about the time and

30:47

okay I will, But let me tell you one thing. Though

30:49

a lot of the times, even though we blame

30:51

the husband's, a lot of it is the kids, because

30:54

you know what, we do everything without

30:56

even thinking that. There

30:58

have been times that Donald is standing right

31:00

next to me and they're like, Mom,

31:03

I need this, and the other kid is Mom, but

31:05

you didn't do this, and Donald's just sitting

31:07

there zoned out watching TV and it's and I had

31:09

I just recently asked Donald. I just recently

31:11

started saying, guys, you have another parent

31:14

right here. You know you have to redirect

31:16

because you end up doing it all yourself

31:18

because you do it faster, better and it

31:20

gets done. You know, my daughter, at like

31:22

nine in the morning, because she knows how to play

31:25

me now during COVID, will come into my

31:27

bathroom and open the shower curtain

31:29

for like my once a week shower. I get and be like

31:32

can I have chocolate milk? And I'm

31:34

like, what's your dad doing? And She's like watching

31:36

the news exactly exactly

31:40

and I'm like, it's nine am, No you can't. She's

31:42

like why and I was like fine,

31:45

It's just like yeah, I don't care. I give

31:47

up. I'll be during COVID.

31:49

A lot of you moms are are probably

31:51

have to and Shay, I know you feel free to weigh

31:54

in and chase got kids. I know a lot of you parents

31:56

must be like a lot do you go quicker to fuck

31:58

it? Yes, have chocolate milk and mine. That's

32:01

why they had donuts for lunch today.

32:04

I feel I feel no shame about it's ez.

32:07

My daughter's easy. Usually after her nap, watches

32:09

one twenty two minutes like Winnie the Pooh episode,

32:12

and every day she's like, can I have to? And

32:14

I'm like, you know what, Like you've already watched your show.

32:16

She's like why, And I'm like, fine,

32:20

three, have four?

32:22

Your dad's in the run till midnight tonight.

32:24

Have four. I'm nursing.

32:27

It's true, you have you have to find something

32:29

that you like to do or something for you that

32:32

nobody else likes to do, and then

32:34

you get to do it alone and you're on your own. So

32:36

now here's the problem. Now here's a problem. Now I've

32:39

been saying that forever. Maybe you

32:41

just gotta find a hobby. You gotta find something

32:43

that you like to do by yourself. You gotta do you

32:45

gotta find what it is that you want to do. When

32:47

I say that ship. I'm an asshole and

32:50

I don't know what I'm talking about. But now

32:52

she just fit that game to all her

32:54

hobby. What if her hobby is you

32:57

fucking do the ship for a couple

32:59

of hours while I go upstairs and watch fucking

33:01

true crime. That that's my hobby.

33:05

I'm too tired to do anything else.

33:08

I don't, I don't. I regret bringing

33:10

my wife up to this conversation. Now

33:13

it's your fault, that's all. You're the one who man got

33:15

her. My money happens to

33:17

be kind of beneficial to the whole family. I love

33:19

to cook. I love to cook.

33:21

Everything's about cooking. In fact, when

33:23

I am nursing Zach, because I can't listen to

33:25

this podcast because while I'm nursing, because Donald

33:27

so loud, I watch I say

33:30

that too. I tell him I

33:33

watch episodes of The Barefoot Contessa

33:35

because she's soothing. Joel,

33:37

do you love her? I love her? Full

33:40

goals goals. But

33:42

have you only seen Sorry, this is a total non sequitor,

33:45

but have you guys seen my octopus

33:47

teacher? No?

33:49

No, oh my god, you guys

33:52

say I know you

33:54

love good fucking ship. Write

33:57

this down, my octopus Teacher.

33:59

It's on Netflix. Okay, I'll watch that.

34:02

If you're listening to this, don't turn off the podcast,

34:04

but jot down in your brain My Octopus

34:06

Teacher. It's on Netflix. Everybody

34:08

has Netflix, and it is an amazing

34:11

documentary about a

34:13

man who befriends an octopus that I

34:15

love your I love your constant fear

34:18

that when you recommend something people are going to

34:20

be like fuck yeah and like turn off the podcast

34:22

immediately, because I think I'm

34:24

a really good I think I think

34:27

I'm very good. I think I'm very good

34:29

at rolling people and rolling people. I can be like, listen,

34:31

I can convince you have to watch this show. It's

34:33

so amazing. I think I'm pretty decent at getting

34:35

people riled up to try something, but I don't

34:37

want to roll them too far. But they're like, funk this

34:40

podcast. I'm going to watch The Octopus Teacher. Now,

34:44

all right, we gotta move on. Casey. We love you

34:49

looks lovely good colorists,

34:52

colors. Oh my gosh,

34:54

she's so pretty. Yeah, she's very

34:56

pretty donable and how good he has it? Yeah,

35:00

what are you talking about? Well

35:02

that was kind of fix your life, So Dan, let's

35:05

do it. Let's do a up a posthumous posthumous

35:07

how do you say that word? A posthumous

35:11

playing of the Fix Your Life music? Right here?

35:15

Kate. You're welcome, You're welcome,

35:18

You're welcome, Kate. Do you

35:20

have a question? Um for for any of

35:22

us? I know you have to go because you have date night?

35:24

But do you have? But actually, are are the

35:27

other couple that's driving forty five minutes

35:29

from Asheville just told me they're running late, so

35:31

that can be alright.

35:34

I won't take up your time, but you can take up

35:36

mine. Now, go ahead. What's your question? Yes,

35:38

I'm actually really glad that shas here because my

35:41

first question is about cast

35:43

and crew, Zach. It's it's for

35:46

you. Mainly, I've always

35:48

wondered how when an actor is

35:50

a star of a piece, kind

35:52

of like Kevin Costner does all the time,

35:55

and they also direct you

35:57

directed episodes of Scrubs and you

35:59

know other projects that you've been the start of, who

36:02

directs you when you're in the scene.

36:04

And I don't mean like here's your mark, here's

36:06

your site line. I mean like you finish a take

36:09

with Donald and there, and you know, I'm sure you're not

36:11

like uh, Donald, you know a little

36:14

bit less and uh you know Judy,

36:16

Uh you know that what seemed a little whiny

36:18

and mean no note some you

36:20

know, like, so who's behind camera?

36:23

It's a very question, it's very question. Um

36:25

so I'll just use the scrubs example. There'd

36:27

be uh, the writer of the episode. In this case it's

36:29

Mike Schwartz, and he would be sitting

36:31

behind the monitor. Bill of course, would

36:33

come to the very first rehearsal of every

36:35

scene and he would watch it.

36:38

He'd watch my blocking. He he didn't

36:40

care too much about where the where the camera was for

36:42

the specific director and especially when he

36:44

trusted them. But he but he

36:46

was basically blocking them. And most importantly, as

36:48

the showrunner writer, are the jokes playing? And

36:50

when the jokes weren't playing, he'd tweaked them or rewrite

36:53

them. And so he would see and he'd

36:55

go so he could give me a note and he'd

36:57

be like, you know, when you do that line with Donald, you

36:59

gotta have more energy because of X, Y and C, and I go, got

37:01

it, got it, And then he'd go off to go right

37:03

with the writers. The writer of that particular

37:06

episode would stay on set at the monitors,

37:08

so very often I would when the camera's

37:10

on me and I'm directing, I would then obviously

37:12

you can tell if the crews laughing, if I'm if I'm gonna

37:14

scene with Donald and I'm making him laugh, I'm feeling

37:16

good about it. On my weeks,

37:18

we would have playback. We wouldn't always

37:20

have play back because it's a time suck, but on when

37:22

I'm directing, I would have the ability to go

37:24

back and play back to take and go, Okay,

37:26

that was good, let's move on. So I do need to be able to play

37:29

back the video and then I would just check

37:31

in with with whatever writer it was.

37:33

But you know, one thing I got good at was was kind

37:35

of sensing when I did Garden. When I Garden

37:37

set, wish I was here being on camera and directing myself.

37:40

You kind of start to get a sense of like, I

37:43

I know when I'm good, I know when I suck. I know when

37:45

I I felt weird I didn't. I mean, do you just get

37:47

to the point where you can be really honest with

37:49

yourself and know when you're not in your rhythm. But

37:51

you maybe need that writer or that a

37:54

d or someone to be for you to be like

37:56

was that too big? And for them to be like, yeah, that was too big.

37:58

You definitely need a producer type who

38:00

you trust, who's funny, who's a good

38:03

writer, I think, uh, and or

38:05

a first a d assist director or sometimes

38:07

the cinematographer. I've had a great relationship with who's

38:09

who whisper in your ear? Something that really that

38:11

really helps because I've had times

38:13

where I went where I did, like on Alex Sink

38:16

I remember doing like a really funny take and I'm directing.

38:18

I think it's good, but I'm a little secure about it, and I go to the

38:20

I'm excited, sort of like walking back

38:22

to the monitors and no one's there and

38:25

I'm like this, I don't like this feels like tight

38:27

rob walking without without a net because

38:29

I I don't know, I need fucking

38:31

help, you know what I mean. So I

38:33

think that that I much prefer

38:36

it um when I have

38:38

people I trust that I may think that's good. The

38:40

great thing about my favorite thing about acting

38:42

directing is that I can steer the scene

38:45

from within. So if I

38:47

if in my opinion, I want Donald to

38:49

be anged turk Donald to be angrier

38:51

in this moment, I'm gonna fucking come Adam

38:53

harder. I'm gonna be more aggressive with my

38:56

lines because I'm trying to steer him from

38:58

within the scene to get more

39:00

riled up um or

39:02

or or or like when you want funnier lines

39:05

or something like that. The great thing about you

39:07

know, you would do it as an actor too,

39:09

but Bill would have a certain set of jokes

39:12

and then you would have like five

39:14

more and you'd be like, just run him off, and it

39:17

would be great because you would get performances out of

39:19

us where it was like we were giving We trusted

39:21

you enough because we thought you were funny enough.

39:23

Also, your scope and your visual

39:26

was what. We trusted that enough also

39:28

that we were like, yeah, man, whatever you want

39:30

us to say, we're gonna say that. Ship So we

39:33

get to the end of scenes or we get to punch lines

39:35

and stuff like Zach that, and Zach would throw new

39:38

punch lines in and you trusted and

39:40

go with it because of the

39:42

fact you know that you you've

39:45

seen what he's done. And also he was

39:47

just so confident in doing it, so okay when

39:49

you say you know, he's like, he's like, uh,

39:51

this is a note for you. This is the note for you and

39:54

none for me. Even

39:57

if a director does even if the director

39:59

is acting and he does do that, the

40:02

confidence that he's showing in the

40:04

situation makes you more

40:06

trustworthy. Now it's

40:09

not my place because I'm not directing to say to

40:11

the director or to another actor,

40:13

I think you should do it this way. I think you're doing

40:16

it wrong. But because he directed so

40:18

many episodes, we got used to it, and I

40:20

think the first episode it felt a little weird, but

40:22

then after that it was like, dude, whatever

40:25

you want, Zach. So I think that's kind

40:27

of in a testament if I may like to compliment,

40:29

like the kind of examples that you have been for

40:33

positive male relationships

40:35

and mature, you know, open

40:37

men together, but also like there's

40:39

a lot of egos. I I don't

40:42

imagine that that's always the case when suddenly

40:44

your co star and in

40:46

your real life best friend are coming out and they're

40:48

suddenly kind of in this status

40:51

change, you know, and for you to just

40:53

like take a note and not

40:56

just swallow it, but like appreciate

40:58

it and trust with that well.

41:01

And also I would say that he was rooting for me. I mean,

41:03

he's my best friend and he was stoked for me. He was

41:05

the opposite of an ego because he was

41:07

like, this is so cool you're directing. You know. That was the fine

41:09

and Johnny c two, I should say, and I meant the whole

41:12

cast. I never everyone. I've

41:14

been asked this before and I think I've answered

41:16

it, but I'll say again. When I started directing

41:18

the show, there wasn't a single They

41:21

were all rooting for me. They

41:23

were all excited for me. Bill of course

41:25

was a competitive motherfucker. But the rap

41:28

because he was a little like, Okay, here's

41:30

the hardest episode we've ever made, but which I

41:32

won't mention the zip line episode? You did

41:35

you already? No, I didn't mention it. I didn't mention

41:37

it. Now on my Twitter feed no matter what I

41:39

right, people like, oh, is this the episode about the zip line?

41:41

All right? Buck you guys. But

41:44

no, everyone was rooting for me and everyone was supportive,

41:46

and uh, I loved it. I loved it so much

41:48

because, um, you know, Donald and I

41:50

can make each other laugh so so quickly

41:52

and easily. So when he's doing his when he

41:54

if he's got a big joke and I'm cracking up, and

41:57

then we're in the zone together and do another

41:59

take and and say this, and then he's willing

42:01

to try it. You know. It's it's it's so much fun.

42:03

It's it was amazing. It Also

42:05

it also feels like, uh, Scorsese

42:08

and de Niro or Scorsese and

42:10

Pacino, you know what I mean. It's like not

42:13

that we're on that level, or we are. Donald

42:15

will tell us, tell us, but

42:20

it's like, you know, Scorsese

42:22

puts his friends in the movie. He's not putting them in

42:24

the movie to make them fall flat on their face, you

42:27

know what I mean. And so when Zach is giving

42:29

you direction and everything when we're

42:31

shooting, he's not doing it because

42:33

he wants to get through today. He wants you to shine

42:35

just like everyone else. He wants everything to

42:37

be perfect, you know. And so where

42:40

there are people that come into a situation

42:42

like this and they're just like, let's just get the lines

42:44

right and everybody and we can move on. I just want to tell

42:46

my story, and that's it where Zach is

42:49

wants to tell his story, but he's also

42:51

open to you expressing yourself

42:53

in the piece. Yeah, great question,

42:55

Kate, you have another one, since we like you so much. Oh,

42:58

you're so You're so nice. Actually, I would like

43:00

to tell you just why I actually reached out

43:02

to Joel if I could, because

43:05

I just think it's crazy, um, because

43:07

I don't believe out in signs unless they

43:09

work out for me. But

43:12

I right, um, but there's

43:14

not enough time in the day. Uh.

43:16

I was doing one of my hiding from my family

43:18

errands listening to the latest episode,

43:21

and the errand I happened to be doing was I

43:23

was returning some scrubs to

43:25

a store that my husband had ordered

43:27

online that were comically large on

43:30

him because you know, we're all trying to order

43:32

online and it sucks. We have no idea, like

43:34

you know. And so I was listening

43:36

to your podcast returning scrubs

43:39

and when I walked into the Uniform

43:41

City store that sells the scrubs, the

43:43

song Everywhere by Michelle Branch your

43:48

anthem, and it was like, listen,

43:51

we were gonna. I thought I had her on the hook.

43:54

We were we were Twitter d M. I said, would

43:56

you come on the show? She goes sure, and I go, would

43:58

you play Everywhere? Live? On was sticking?

44:00

She's like the dots

44:02

came up and then they went away, and I was like, that's

44:05

like when you're off fishing and the fish gets read.

44:10

I haven't cast again. I feel like I can on

44:13

read. Yo left

44:15

you on Red, isn't it left you on red? Same

44:17

ship, red spelled the same way.

44:19

Dog. At

44:22

least I can at least I can brag them. Michelle

44:24

Branch left me on Red. That's true, that's

44:26

true, and I love you about it. And it was like right

44:29

like Zach, it was right at the like because yeah,

44:31

you know the key change, like the huge key change. And I

44:33

was like, oh god, this is a sign. So I like

44:35

asked Joel if it was a sign, and she

44:38

got back to me. I was like, I guess so, because I never

44:40

do things like this, I'm like, I never win a raffle,

44:43

I never win in anything. No one picks me, like

44:45

and as I can't believe, I'm actually you're gonna

44:47

win. Can we give her some free ship?

44:49

No? No, I don't know. I don't

44:52

know. I don't know, are

44:55

you no? Because

44:58

she blamed me for the king

45:00

of her kid,

45:03

I purposely never heard. I

45:05

heard you say that ship you said, and I know

45:08

breastfeed while listening motherfucking

45:11

loud. You even said because

45:13

Donald's too motherfucking loud. I heard you.

45:15

You said it to my wife. You even said to my wife.

45:18

You even said it to my wife. Can you got

45:21

bold and you said it to my wife. You

45:23

ain't getting ship dlinsky, you

45:26

get jack ship. You ain't too loud

45:29

now, good day, you're

45:31

getting too loud now, Ariolas

45:33

all over the world are pun You're

45:36

actually making me like you're making my milk

45:38

let. I'm gonna stay like, oh, my god,

45:41

word because I'm so sweaty and upset. Now,

45:43

my god, I don't know if

45:45

you're allowed to say that the

45:49

jack You guys told people to wipe

45:51

their balloon knots with your yes,

45:54

yes, reverably, Donald's

45:56

not fine. Say

45:59

whatever I'm on about my own breast milk.

46:09

Did you see, cadies, Cardi

46:12

bees nipples? What

46:14

do you mean in the video? No, Cardi

46:16

Bee just had a nipples slip. Did you guys see this on

46:18

Instant? About it? But

46:20

I did not view it. I did

46:22

appreciate in the WAP video the

46:25

fountains with us spring and

46:27

in our house a big thing that

46:29

we sing to our ten month old or ten

46:31

ten week old. Excuse me, Honestly,

46:36

I feel like a horrible human being. But

46:38

instead of the hook the way it is in the song,

46:40

we sing there's some babies in this house.

46:46

And now my daughter has started, she'll be

46:48

like doing plato and she'll be like, there's some

46:50

mamas in this house. Oh

46:53

my, do

46:58

you takes can be? Yeah?

47:00

Would you like some? I love

47:03

Okay, let's send her some GT kombucha.

47:05

I love it and I love I love

47:07

the like the plainest most like

47:10

you know, like the ginger that you know. I love

47:13

love. I've been drinking this um this

47:15

one right here, pet, you

47:18

got this one done? Oh yeah,

47:20

that's my jam. I finished

47:22

my martini. Okay, we

47:25

will send you some GTS kombucha, and

47:27

we will send you some GTS aqua

47:29

key for for being such

47:31

a wonderful guest. We gotta go,

47:33

though, I think right, we gotta

47:36

go because we have Chase Serran, who's not getting nearly

47:38

enough attention on this fucking episode. No, this

47:40

is great for me if

47:44

she has been replaced by Ariola talk,

47:46

I don't like that. You've

47:49

been a great guest, Kate. We're gonna send you a whole bunch

47:51

of g TS kombucha and and

47:53

and and have a good date. Night. For God's sake,

47:55

have a good date night. Thank you, thank

47:57

you. Some babies in

48:00

this house. There's some babies. There's

48:02

some babies in the South. Give it up

48:04

for Kates

48:09

in this house. Babies in this

48:11

house. Okay, okay,

48:14

by Kates Alinsky, and

48:24

we're back, Ladies and gentlemen. That

48:26

was Kate, and she was incredible.

48:29

Our next guest caused quite

48:32

the stir when she chose to read Zach

48:34

for Filth and turned out to be hilarious.

48:37

I believe, and listeners feel free

48:39

to correct me if I'm wrong. That nor Con

48:41

is to this day our

48:44

longest fan call of all time,

48:47

and it's because she had so many creations, three

48:49

incredible questions, a wonderful fix

48:51

of your life. She was hilarious.

48:54

She cracked Bill up, which I

48:56

can attest to not easy to do. We

48:58

loved her and we were so full to have her,

49:01

even though she was in India and we could not send

49:03

her a mug. I'm sorry, Nor but you

49:05

are a living icon and we're absolutely

49:07

going to have to have you back on the show

49:10

soon, so I won't take up too much more time.

49:12

Let's get into North and we're

49:14

back,

49:20

and we're bad we're

49:22

back. Oh

49:31

my god,

49:35

I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry

49:38

to Nor do

49:40

you get that all the time? Do you get that all the time?

49:44

Nor? Hi? How are you? Hi?

49:49

Do you get that all the time? Nor? No,

49:51

no one does that? And the one we're jogging.

49:54

I have no earbuds left.

50:00

I don't think I've ever been introduced like this ever

50:02

in my entire life. Nor

50:05

it's very you ever seen? Have you ever seen?

50:07

Have you ever seen? Star Trek to the Wrath

50:10

of con I'm

50:12

not a Star Trek fan. Yes,

50:14

thank you, thank you. I've got a Star Trek

50:16

fan. I don't got a Star Wars. I'm sorry, I'm

50:19

sorry.

50:23

Ladies and North

50:25

County, Oh

50:29

god, oh my god. I can't believe this. Nor

50:32

it's so nice to meet you. Welcome to the program.

50:34

We have a very special episode because we have a surprise

50:37

guest. Bill Lawrence, the creator of the whole darn

50:39

thing, is here so you can ask us anything.

50:42

I have so much to ask you, but before I

50:44

get into that, I just want to I

50:48

have been watching you guys for so

50:50

long. I have I think watched

50:52

the series start to finish over

50:54

thirty times since two

50:58

thousand four. No that's

51:01

that's almost that's almost thirty times more

51:03

than Donald send him. So,

51:11

um, it's it's my happy place. It's

51:13

my husband's cheat called

51:16

to my mood. So like, if I'm in a bad mood,

51:18

like you know, I'm on my period

51:20

and you know, usually you need to give women chocolate

51:22

and wine. No, you just need to put on an episode

51:24

of Scrubs. And I'm like, I

51:28

hate it that he has, like he knows this

51:30

Achilles deal of mine. I hate it so much.

51:33

But he also uses it very

51:36

very much ridiculous.

51:39

I wish Donald wishes he could

51:41

put on Scrubs to calm down. His wife would listen.

51:47

She don't even have to be on a pair. My wife just don't like

51:49

me. Man. I'm now I'm

51:53

just convinced she's guessing today,

51:55

I'm guessing today hasn't been the best quarantine

51:57

day the past ever,

51:59

since school went back, it's

52:01

been well, I'm

52:04

sure there's a lot of I'm sure there's a lot of parents out

52:06

there that can relate Donald. Who are who

52:09

can empathize with you? You should

52:11

know nor Donald pointed out while you were waiting

52:13

that my wife is essentially playing herself

52:15

on the show. So so

52:18

so for me, I don't think. I don't I don't think. I don't think

52:20

popping on maybe exacted. Yeah,

52:22

I don't think popping on that. Yeah.

52:27

Well, and that's

52:29

how she's in your life. You just hit

52:31

the jackpot, my friend. You

52:33

know you would think that, and yet it's also very very

52:36

scary then,

52:38

you know what? You know what I always think, Bill, I think

52:40

that, and you've said a version of this, but

52:42

I think it's kind of I

52:45

mean, this is maybe stupid to say, but

52:47

the universe kind of gives you who you

52:49

need. And you and Donald both have

52:52

very tough christal

52:54

I'll give it capital t um

52:57

wives, but they because you guys have big

52:59

personality, they keep you in check

53:02

and sometimes that's very hard. But

53:04

some wallflower who's gonna let you do

53:06

whatever you want is not gonna work for

53:08

for six months with you guys. I

53:11

thought you were saying that Donald I should be able

53:13

to trade wives and have it be cool with them. I thought that's

53:15

where you're going, that's

53:18

something you guys can work out, because

53:23

I don't think it would be cool with Kristina. I think it'd be

53:25

cool with Krista, but not for me, just for her

53:27

she's so in love with Donald it's so upsetting. Case

53:30

it will be all right when a case you'd be like, what we get

53:32

a pool? Yeah,

53:37

case you'd be like, case you'd be like,

53:39

I'll make out a bill for a pool. Listen, I gotta

53:41

tell you that Kristen. Kristen

53:43

does this thing that's so awkward where we're

53:45

a hug. We're in front of Bill and we're

53:47

hugging, and you know, I

53:50

give a standard hey, good to see you hug,

53:52

and she's like, and Bill standing right there, and she'll be like, don't,

53:55

don't, don't, don't let it go. So

53:59

it's so awkward, and she's doing it just

54:01

to funk with Bill. And I'm sitting there with like a red

54:03

face, Crystal.

54:07

I don't like it. I don't like it. Nor

54:09

where are you going from. I'm calling from

54:11

India,

54:16

friend, all the way from India. Baby.

54:20

This podcast is truly global.

54:22

Donald, Hey,

54:25

did you get able to get a mug?

54:29

No? I actually haven't gone around to ordering

54:31

it yet. Also, stuff is not coming

54:33

in from the US right now. They're taking forever

54:36

to reach us, so I'm just waiting

54:38

for ship to get up. I have to say, I have to

54:40

say on the merge front, this is a slight diggression.

54:43

When MacDonald and I started this podcast, Um,

54:45

the people I heard said to us, and we were, Donald

54:48

and I don't know podcast that much. I've listened to a few. He's

54:50

listening to none. And we said, um,

54:52

they said, just you know, podcast listeners

54:55

really like you know, some basic merge

54:57

a T shirt or a mug because

54:59

you're you're build a community and it's sort of

55:01

a club and people like that stuff. And so

55:03

Donald and I said, okay, well we'll make merch. That's cool.

55:05

You know, we were never in a rock band. That'll

55:08

be fun for us. So it's taking a long

55:10

time to get it up. It's and and uh. And

55:12

on the podcast we've joked about all these funny merch

55:14

ideas. We put up a mug

55:17

and a mask and they were

55:19

gone within like three hours. And

55:22

Donald like, now, I've been texting

55:24

like we need to take the shilling more seriously

55:26

because people are not sucking around with fucking

55:28

merch. They want their merch. Donald, there is

55:31

a lot you guys can do much wise.

55:33

And I was just like sure, if

55:35

I knew this was going to happen, I get like

55:38

you know the show, whether faces on it or

55:40

something printed before like I got on this call, but

55:42

like you

55:45

look great. You look when

55:49

I got when I got the mail, and I was

55:51

like, oh shoot, I need to start looking like a human being

55:53

again. It's

55:59

almost one o'clock at night. Nor just

56:01

texting me that the only merch she wants is a

56:03

five six seven eight Bill Lawrence thing,

56:05

which I think is very nice to

56:08

have said. Hey, by the way, I

56:10

promise we promised Nora a coffee mug.

56:12

That she doesn't have to order a coffee mug. Zact that we're

56:14

gonna send her. Stop.

56:17

You're a guest anybody, if anybody

56:19

would like a coffee mug. All you gotta do

56:22

is you don't have to pay for him.

56:24

All you gotta do what I'm not supposed to know. He's

56:27

right, listen, if you're from here on out, from

56:29

here on out, Bill

56:32

Lawrence. Bill Lawrence brought up a great

56:34

incentive for making it onto the show.

56:37

Yeah mug, I think mug

56:40

again, And I'm loving that it's starting with

56:42

me. So I'm going to be expecting that Joel,

56:45

I see Joel sign not forgiving where

56:47

a mug, but trying, trying trying

56:49

to get a mug to India. I

56:52

see you out holding her head, like, how the funk am

56:54

I getting to India right now? By

56:56

the way, by the way, I think it should

56:58

be a rule no matter where you're calling from, it you don't

57:00

get that mug within a week. Then you get a second

57:02

mug and it

57:07

what wait what

57:13

your name is? And you know it doesn't work.

57:15

It's not gonna work. When Daniel and freaking

57:17

Joel and I hold on, no, no, no, and

57:19

then and then it used to finish my

57:22

finished, the finished the mug, Zach and

57:26

then I'll give you like a five or a six or

57:28

seven eight mug. No no, no no, no,

57:30

no, no, no no no turn

57:32

it off? What

57:35

Dan? No? Then

57:38

we're bad? Can right? He thinks he can

57:40

take control over the show. Dan,

57:42

I'm gonna need the ability. I'm gonna need the ability

57:44

to be able to mute Bill.

57:52

Wait, are we sharing your

57:54

name correct? Nor? Yes, you're saying it alright?

57:57

Nor what do you

57:59

do? What do what she

58:01

does there? What do you do there? In Indian Orth she collects

58:03

mugs from fake doctors.

58:09

Well that's a bit of a loaded question, but like the short

58:11

version of that is I have been a wedding plan of

58:14

eight years. Uh. And I just recently,

58:16

as like about four weeks ago,

58:19

stepped out of my company gave the whole thing to my

58:21

partner because I am going to be a sustainable

58:24

farmer. Oh that's oh

58:26

my god. It's

58:29

like the documentary did you watch The Biggest Little

58:31

Farm? Yes? We uh

58:33

so my husband and I have always

58:35

wanted to retire on a farm

58:38

and do that whole thing. Uh. And

58:40

then this, this whole COVID situation has

58:42

just kind of been like why are we waiting?

58:46

You know? Good for you? What

58:48

are you going for you? What are you gonna

58:51

what are you going to? What crop are you going to farm?

58:53

We're actually going to do a perma culture,

58:55

which is kind of an ecosystem

58:58

of like different kinds things together.

59:01

And we're also going to live on the

59:03

farm away from the city so that I don't have to deal.

59:06

Um. So, yeah, no,

59:11

I missed. I missed. If you said that you've seen

59:13

this documentary The Biggest Little Farm,

59:15

Yes we have. I love that documentary

59:17

so much And if you if you're listening and you haven't seen it,

59:19

please check it out. It's it's about a

59:21

couple that that does a version

59:24

of what Nora is saying, where they create a

59:26

sustainable farm and it's so moving

59:28

and amazing and I really loved

59:30

it. Yeah, And it was just I think and

59:33

my husband and I were in quarantine

59:35

together with like his family and everything, and

59:37

we were just you know, and Bombay is a very loud

59:40

city and during

59:42

like the whole thing was so quiet, and it it was like

59:45

we were just like, oh my god, this is amazing. Why don't

59:47

we have this for our whole lives? And that's

59:49

when the conversation started, like, you know, do you really want to

59:51

wait ten years and then start and

59:53

you wanted to do it now? And I was like why

59:55

not? Oh well, I wish you the

59:57

best of luck. Would be so awesome. Build

1:00:00

you think you and Kristen might also um start

1:00:02

a sustainable farm. Yeah, necessarily

1:00:05

think that's in the cards for us. But

1:00:09

man, man, man, do I think that's super

1:00:11

with the with the sustainable farm still, but like

1:00:13

a luxury four seasons resort is that part

1:00:15

of it? Yeah? Bill, you can. You can build a four

1:00:17

seasons resort on the farms. Part of

1:00:20

that's

1:00:23

really cool. That is so cool.

1:00:25

Nor go ahead if you have a question we were ready

1:00:27

to answer. So I have a few so

1:00:30

you can stop me whenever you guys have gone on. Well

1:00:32

the way we get ahead, Okay,

1:00:35

so I'm gonna start with Bill just because he's

1:00:37

the bans beIN operation. Well,

1:00:40

no, thank you, thank you so much for

1:00:42

enjoying my podcast. It's really cool. I

1:00:45

enjoy your podcast.

1:00:50

Like I totally, I totally

1:00:52

imagine that. I totally imagine that in season

1:00:54

three of this podcast, Donald and I are guests. You

1:00:58

guys, he is long. Would you guys tell me

1:01:01

you can come on whatever you want,

1:01:05

you know, let me know what's going on, what's here? So,

1:01:09

so if we were to pick up the show today,

1:01:11

um X number of years after it

1:01:13

has gone off yet, and we had to pick up

1:01:16

from where the boys are today and

1:01:18

the whole class is today, But where do you

1:01:20

see the show going. Do you think that they will

1:01:22

still be at Sacred Heart or do you think

1:01:24

that j D and Turf would go into private practice

1:01:26

together? Where do you see like the whole show

1:01:29

going? Like, just because there was so much

1:01:31

towards the end of season eight, I don't consider season

1:01:33

nine in actual season. So just letting all of that whatever,

1:01:40

whatever, whatever, that was

1:01:43

there was only one Nor, there was only one

1:01:45

main difference with the season nine recalling

1:01:52

major differences. Hold up you or

1:01:54

both you and Bill were gone,

1:01:57

so the magic was gone, the magic

1:01:59

dreamed. I'm

1:02:01

answering Nor's question because I want to hear Donald Zack's

1:02:03

answer to this. So No, we were talking a

1:02:06

lot because everybody always asked Donald,

1:02:08

Zack and me if we're ever going to reboot the show, and

1:02:10

Uh, what's really interesting is we've always had opportunities,

1:02:13

but everybody on this show a works

1:02:16

constantly because they're also super talented

1:02:18

and be We see each other

1:02:21

on our own because we love each other, so you

1:02:23

know, we we haven't always been driven to do

1:02:25

even for me getting to come on this show on Zack

1:02:27

and Donald's podcast, Yes it's Theirs. For

1:02:30

me, is such a co opportunity to see

1:02:32

two guys I love so. Uh.

1:02:35

Only recently we've been starting talking about

1:02:37

that and thinking about what it would be and with the

1:02:39

writers, here's the question for you guys.

1:02:42

I think that we think Zach and j D

1:02:44

and Turk would always be close, and we

1:02:46

think that they would always be of service and that those

1:02:48

two were doctors for life. But the

1:02:50

one thing that we always got caught up on is

1:02:53

when you watch the finale of season eight and Zack's

1:02:55

voice j D's voice over says, uh

1:02:58

and who's to say that all these things wouldn't

1:03:00

come true just this once? You

1:03:03

know? And then as writers we fight. Does that mean

1:03:05

that they all came true? Or does that mean

1:03:07

that j D is hoping they

1:03:09

came true? So that's where we always start. What do

1:03:11

you guys think? Because we always started to go like,

1:03:13

if we rebooted this, does that mean that j D and Donald's

1:03:16

kids ultimately are going to end up together and

1:03:18

married like they do in the show. Does that

1:03:20

mean that those things actually happened? You

1:03:22

know? You know? So?

1:03:25

Uh so I would because to me, that's

1:03:27

the trap. Do you think, Zach, do you think that those

1:03:29

things that we were showing in the finale were real? Or

1:03:31

do you think they were your dreams? Um,

1:03:34

that's a question I've never been asked, and I'm

1:03:36

semi embarrassed to admit that it gave me goose

1:03:38

bumps on my arm.

1:03:41

But I don't hold anything back from your

1:03:43

listeners. Um. I've never been

1:03:45

asked that question, Bill, and it's a great question.

1:03:47

And I as as as as you

1:03:49

were talking about it, I I kind

1:03:52

of answered it automatically and said, no,

1:03:54

that was j D's fantasy of how

1:03:56

great life could be. And

1:03:58

then I started thinking, And then I started

1:04:00

thinking, like, if you brought it back, it might

1:04:03

be interesting to show that things

1:04:05

had not gone that way at all. And

1:04:07

in fact, he's um,

1:04:10

they've all been separated, and they were

1:04:13

you know, you know, on this podcast

1:04:15

a lot we talked about how we're all

1:04:17

living life and and COVID aside,

1:04:20

happy people and doing the best that we can,

1:04:23

but we always talk about how we missed the

1:04:25

community of this wonderful thing that happened

1:04:27

to us for for nearly a decade. And

1:04:30

it made me think that it might be

1:04:32

interesting that the characters aren't

1:04:34

together. They don't have that special bond

1:04:37

and there is some reason that has to

1:04:39

bring them together, and and and joy

1:04:41

and and community come out of bringing

1:04:43

them back together. It's

1:04:45

always what se messed us up, broke you go Downald.

1:04:48

I I agree with you, Zach. I think I think

1:04:50

you're right. I think I think that's a better

1:04:52

story. Johnny loves Chatti didn't go that long, you

1:04:54

know what I mean? That happy ending

1:04:57

of of the kids being

1:05:00

the next generation

1:05:03

of Turk and j D. But it's

1:05:06

a love it's the love story that you

1:05:08

know, Turke and j D's love story is a

1:05:10

great love story, But this is the actual

1:05:13

love story where you know their

1:05:16

children are together.

1:05:18

I think that's too happy they where

1:05:20

do they hate each other? That

1:05:24

I think? I know? See? No, that's the problem

1:05:27

is that I feel like, you know, people

1:05:29

wanted when j D says, who's

1:05:32

to say my fantasies couldn't come true? Justice once

1:05:34

that you want to believe that that next Christmas

1:05:36

they were all together, you know, and that they stayed

1:05:38

friends. And I think people

1:05:41

would be really not happy

1:05:43

in a in a bad way if we came up on a world

1:05:45

that they were no longer in each other's lives. So I think that's

1:05:47

the immediately.

1:05:52

No,

1:05:52

No, let

1:05:56

me clarify what I think that I'm saying.

1:05:58

J D and Turk are still tight. Their

1:06:00

kids just don't get along, you know what I mean? Well,

1:06:04

I was I was saying that we can be tight but

1:06:06

separated, you know, um, And

1:06:08

I think that Bill, you know this,

1:06:11

Bill, you know this better than anything. The audience

1:06:13

will often say something

1:06:15

two things at once. I remember

1:06:17

when I when we screen tested Garden State, they

1:06:19

were at the very end. We had a focus

1:06:21

group about twenty people. No,

1:06:25

you weren't at this one, and they said, uh um,

1:06:28

they said, how many of you this was random strangers?

1:06:30

And they said, how many of you feel

1:06:33

like the ending was a little too

1:06:35

pad? But you know, the two lovers get together in

1:06:38

the airport, and I would say, like seventy

1:06:41

of the hands went up, and they said, okay,

1:06:43

um, honey, how many of you want them to be together?

1:06:46

Every single hand went up. So

1:06:48

as the writer, you're trying and writer director, you're

1:06:50

trying to balance like you obviously

1:06:53

want to you want to make the audience happy,

1:06:56

but you you also want to subvert what

1:06:58

they think they want a little bit. Do you don't mean?

1:07:00

Bill, you can speak to that, because well, look,

1:07:02

I'm as proud of the writing and directing

1:07:04

I did on Garden State as I am with my podcast.

1:07:10

Do you want to know? I want to know, I want to know there are another

1:07:12

funny story just just while I'm on the subject.

1:07:14

So this is the story that's

1:07:17

a total tangent. But in that same

1:07:19

test screening, Now, when when you when you test

1:07:21

screen a movie in your director you have to go because you have

1:07:23

to see where the audience is laughing, where they're board all

1:07:25

everything like that. Now, you would never invite

1:07:28

an actor who's in the movie to the test screen because

1:07:30

there's gonna be a focus group actor and you never know

1:07:32

what they're gonna say. They might say they don't like that actor.

1:07:34

You would never subject an actor to that. But as

1:07:36

a writer director, you have to be there. So there's

1:07:38

a focus group in the front row of the movie theater, twenty

1:07:40

people lined up. I'm six rows

1:07:42

back with my baseball hat down. I don't want

1:07:45

to spoil the sampling and have them know that

1:07:47

I'm there. And a girl raises

1:07:49

her hand and the moderator calls on

1:07:51

on her and she goes, look, kudos

1:07:54

to Zach Braff for pulling this off.

1:07:56

I just don't find him attractive.

1:08:06

And I'm sitting there. I'm sitting

1:08:08

there like fighting my fist, like this is

1:08:11

the most All the producers are in

1:08:13

the in the road with me. They all look over at

1:08:15

me like, oh, ship, how did that feel? And I'm

1:08:17

like, not great? That

1:08:20

that right? There is a hater. That's

1:08:22

all that is. Look,

1:08:27

look she started the ship off with kudos

1:08:30

to Zach Braff pulling this off meeting.

1:08:33

This ship is fired, dude, this ship

1:08:35

is fire. But he's

1:08:38

an ugly dude. Bullshit, dude.

1:08:40

You know it's funny though. This is I'm just thinking this out

1:08:42

loud in real time. But this is

1:08:45

before like social media went crazy,

1:08:48

and this was sort of a live

1:08:50

anonymous troll because she hasn't

1:08:52

know I'm in the room and she's

1:08:54

anonymously trolling me to

1:08:56

the moderator, but I have to be

1:08:59

there because I'm the direct toward the movie. How

1:09:01

do you whatever, How do you guys fix that

1:09:03

in the movie? How do you fix it? Bake

1:09:06

green screen? Those

1:09:13

got more questions? Sorry. First

1:09:16

of all, I want to say, you're such a fucking dick egg

1:09:20

and be and

1:09:23

be. We spent a hundred grand and lessened

1:09:25

my nose. We

1:09:29

brought my We brought my nose. I thought

1:09:31

it was the green screen map. Yeah, we we we we

1:09:33

we We shot some angles where my nose looked

1:09:35

too big and that we wanted

1:09:38

to please that one fucking woman. All right,

1:09:40

sorry, nor Nor, I'm sorry, no

1:09:42

problem, Okay, Zach. My next

1:09:44

questions for you, m Finally, so

1:09:48

you've done a lot of like platforms and and

1:09:50

a lot of like funny falls throughout

1:09:53

the life time of the show. Which is your favorite

1:09:55

to shoot and which is the one

1:09:58

that you thought came out best on screen? That's

1:10:00

a good question. That's a good question. I'm

1:10:02

gonna cheat a little, nor Um okay,

1:10:05

And I mean, can I can

1:10:07

the scooter one in the Wizard of Oz? Count Bill,

1:10:09

I'll let you judge. Yes, yes, just

1:10:12

just don't say the string

1:10:14

line one where you end up in the garbage

1:10:16

stuff. You've said it like twenty times on this podcast.

1:10:20

You know why? Nor? Because

1:10:23

that I don't know if you know this, but Zack

1:10:25

directed that one. Do you

1:10:27

know this? You

1:10:30

don't even want the Wizard of the religiously

1:10:34

and I know? Nor? Oh

1:10:39

my god, Nor are you very funny? First of all?

1:10:41

And I love the fact that you're you're such an avid

1:10:44

listener that you're like, please don't say the one where

1:10:46

you zip line because I've heard it. Not. By

1:10:49

the way, We're gonna be so funny when we get deeper into

1:10:51

this series, because we're only on season

1:10:54

two and she's one point

1:10:56

five and people are already like, please don't tell

1:10:58

that story. I

1:11:00

can't wait for that episode. Anyway,

1:11:04

anyway, nor I do love that episode, but I

1:11:06

have to say the funniest it's

1:11:08

tactically not a pratfall, I guess, but probably

1:11:11

the funniest in Scrubs history. It's

1:11:13

what Bill always called our most expensive joke

1:11:15

and the history of Scrubs is when

1:11:17

the scooter goes into the

1:11:20

endless puddle in the Wizard of Oz episode

1:11:23

where I where I clearly run into Julian

1:11:25

the underground manate see who doesn't

1:11:27

exchange pleasantries? Um

1:11:30

because um, it involved

1:11:33

digging two very deep holes. They

1:11:35

were very expensive to build because the city demanded

1:11:37

they'd be built to code for safety,

1:11:40

because you can't just throw people in a hole

1:11:42

that could collapse. And

1:11:45

um and as a director of the episode,

1:11:48

uh, we came up with the idea that it

1:11:50

would be a one er, which means we

1:11:52

did this elaborate thing where the stunt man is

1:11:55

riding the scooter with his with his helmet

1:11:57

on into the first puddle. Um.

1:11:59

The camera keeps panning. They weren't really

1:12:01

connected underground obviously, but

1:12:03

it pans to the second pile where I was

1:12:06

hiding out underwater. Um

1:12:09

and and and and then one of the one of

1:12:11

the crew members with a hammer as

1:12:13

hard as he could banged on the asphalt

1:12:15

so I could hear it underground, which

1:12:17

meant to pop up um because

1:12:20

the camera was on me. And

1:12:22

uh. It was very elaborate, and I

1:12:24

still think one of the funniest gags we

1:12:27

did on Scrubs. Bill, you might want to talk

1:12:29

about it. You know why that gag is so funny

1:12:31

though, because manatees seemed like the

1:12:33

happiest creatures in the ocean, and

1:12:36

the fact that the

1:12:38

fact that he wouldn't return pleasantries

1:12:40

is one of the funniest. He

1:12:44

was rude. Wait,

1:12:50

but Bill, talk about that from the writer's room, because there's

1:12:52

no way when you guys thought of that, you could have possibly

1:12:55

thought it was going to come out as funny as it did. Because

1:12:57

I think when

1:12:59

we thought of it, the most fun was Randall Winston,

1:13:02

who's been on the show and is

1:13:04

you know, it's the closest thing I have to a life partner

1:13:06

besides my wife. He is the line producer

1:13:08

in charge of the budget, and he came to us with the first

1:13:10

estimates of how much that joke cost. Yes,

1:13:13

yes, look at you and uh he

1:13:16

uh came to us the first estimates of how

1:13:18

much that joke cost, and he said

1:13:20

he said it to me in a way that he obviously felt

1:13:23

so unfortunately we won't do it. And in my head

1:13:25

I was like, yeah, it feels like we should still

1:13:27

go for it, you know. And

1:13:31

that was only that was only a product

1:13:33

of youth, because now

1:13:35

I think I would look at it and go, oh man,

1:13:38

we could have I guess, I don't know, purchased

1:13:40

a small home to give to somebody to

1:13:42

live in for the price of a joke, you know.

1:13:45

But that's that's movie and TV production, is

1:13:47

Zach. I want to give you props because Nora asked

1:13:50

one of my favorite falls of all time,

1:13:52

I ran and we saw it when I was searching for this episode.

1:13:55

Do you remember what you did when you were singing

1:13:57

a song you made up, going I'm feeling so

1:13:59

good today. You know at that he'll

1:14:01

feel good, but nobody it's all So

1:14:05

My favorite is that Zack decided

1:14:08

to click his heels and because

1:14:10

that's very hard to do, and then fall flat on

1:14:12

his face and get back up. And

1:14:14

I've never seen that was in a wonder as well, and

1:14:16

it looks so incredibly painful and so

1:14:19

well done. I would vote for that as well. I want

1:14:21

you listeners to know that I will do I would do anything

1:14:23

to make you guys laugh. I I still

1:14:25

go to the chiropractor as often as I can just

1:14:28

because of all those years. Thank

1:14:30

you. So I I do it all for my fans.

1:14:33

Nor you gotta bring you gotta bring a question Donald's way

1:14:35

now, Oh sorry, don't. I'm

1:14:37

gonna be honest with you. My favorite pratfall

1:14:41

is the one from the episode that Zack

1:14:43

directed. I hate to take because

1:14:45

of what the dude does. It's a stunt man

1:14:47

that does it, but after he hits

1:14:49

the wall and how he shakes like a

1:14:52

fish in the air is one of the

1:14:54

funniest things I've ever I remember

1:14:56

when he did it and laughed. I was there

1:14:58

the night that happened. I remember laughing

1:15:01

when it happened, and then seeing it on

1:15:03

camera and laughing it again at

1:15:05

it again. So that's that directed?

1:15:08

That did you direct? That one's out, by

1:15:12

the way, I do have to simultaneously give

1:15:14

a shout out to to the many stuff man that that

1:15:16

the several stuff man that did it over the years,

1:15:18

because there were certain things I I definitely

1:15:20

couldn't do or wasn't allowed to do and

1:15:24

um, and these guys were hilarious and Donald

1:15:26

Donald was right. I was not allowed to zip

1:15:29

line into the wall and line but

1:15:31

you didn't line zip

1:15:34

line. I wasn't allowed to nail the wall. What you also

1:15:36

weren't allowed to drive an

1:15:39

actual scooter that had to be weighted

1:15:41

down with lead so that you would stay

1:15:43

underwater in the first puddle while we

1:15:45

went over to the next puddle and you came up. Think

1:15:47

about that that stuntman had to hold his breath for

1:15:49

the whole shot, for that whole shot, Yeah, because

1:15:52

he had to go under with the scooter and stay under

1:15:55

No, well, technically, Bill, we panned off of him

1:15:57

and then he could. Yeah, but not right away, Zach, not right

1:15:59

away. But I have to say

1:16:01

not to toot my own director horn. But

1:16:03

how many directors are directing from underwater

1:16:06

in a puddle where you can only here with a hammer

1:16:08

on asphalts? Alright?

1:16:12

Alright, nor um um we

1:16:14

have should we give her one more? I

1:16:18

have one? I have one more question. This

1:16:20

one is predominant because I've always wondered

1:16:22

this at what Like I said, of what up so many

1:16:24

times and I wanted to get perspective on this Do

1:16:27

you wish that your character had

1:16:29

a longer run as a single on

1:16:31

the show instead of getting into a committed

1:16:33

relationship right off the bat. Yes,

1:16:38

yes, yes, yes, I felt for

1:16:41

you so much. Yes, you

1:16:43

know, I love it. I love it. Donald has

1:16:45

tiptoed around it. And Nora is just like, come

1:16:47

on, buddy, Beyond is

1:16:52

a beautiful woman and the connection

1:16:55

that she and I have, the chemistry that

1:16:57

she and I have is by

1:16:59

far the best chemistry I've ever had

1:17:01

with any female on on

1:17:03

screen, by far. I can.

1:17:06

I can go down the list, and nobody

1:17:09

has ever been on the level that

1:17:12

Judy and I were on Uh, Comma,

1:17:15

Comma comma. I

1:17:18

do, however, wish that

1:17:21

Turk was a single four A little bit by

1:17:24

the way, and to at

1:17:26

least season one and two. Act

1:17:30

No, I believe it was a product of youth. And

1:17:33

I'll say all the same caveats because Judy is so

1:17:35

good on the show and so funny and talented.

1:17:37

But I remember, and I might be making

1:17:39

this up in my head, but I remember as

1:17:42

writers telling Judy early

1:17:44

on that Turk and Carla we're gonna

1:17:46

be together for the run of the show, and her

1:17:48

being like Oh, that's gonna be cool to have a steady

1:17:51

relationship, to be the ones that ground it, to

1:17:54

explore what that means, to meet, get married,

1:17:56

stay together, have children, to follow that whole arc.

1:17:58

And Donald, who was a young at the time, I do remember

1:18:01

kind of telling you that, and you're being like really

1:18:10

as Amy Smart walks by like morning, Donald,

1:18:18

Um, all right, now, now, now you know we

1:18:20

have this new segment since you're an avid fan

1:18:22

of the podcast, where and

1:18:24

Bill is going to join us for the first time for a

1:18:27

new segment called fix your

1:18:29

Life. Nor it's time

1:18:32

to fix your life? Alright?

1:18:37

Nor how can we fix your life? Big or small? We're gonna

1:18:39

do it right now. You don't need to pay for a therapist.

1:18:41

You don't need to pay for a handy man. We got it, Okay.

1:18:45

Mike cap sutterly scratches me

1:18:47

a lot for no reason, especially at night, especial

1:18:49

if I haven't fallen asleep by his bedtime. How

1:18:51

they get him stop doing that? Okay, I

1:18:53

can tell you this one real quick. All

1:18:58

right, this is this is this

1:19:00

is been a great episode to fix your life.

1:19:02

They're welcome or no, someone

1:19:06

is not a cat person and as allergic

1:19:08

to cats, just getting rid of the cat um

1:19:12

nor. I don't know too much about cats. I gotta

1:19:14

be honest. I'm more of a dog person, and

1:19:17

i've I've I've raised a coup on puppies now,

1:19:19

so I have some experience with puppies. I

1:19:21

do know. Have you tried

1:19:24

now with with puppies. There's a canned air

1:19:26

thing that they hate. If

1:19:28

you do that canned air noise, They're like, I

1:19:31

will never do what you what I just did again

1:19:33

if you just promise not to make that can so

1:19:35

I would try canned air. Another

1:19:37

thing is a water gun. Um you can

1:19:40

sometimes, I don't. Most most pets

1:19:42

do not like getting blasted with a water gun to

1:19:44

the face. Also, there's uh, I

1:19:46

mean, we've we've made jokes about everything on Scrubs.

1:19:49

But there's also this one episode that we did

1:19:51

in which Zach goes down a zip line and

1:19:54

I think he directed that one. That no

1:20:00

easy to take because now

1:20:05

I'm going to be really in my head about about

1:20:08

mentioning that episode. I

1:20:10

mean, I love it. I

1:20:13

love it. My only thing is that I just

1:20:15

didn't want you to say that that was your best Okay.

1:20:22

I truly believe that if you want to make it so

1:20:24

the cat stop scratching you. You

1:20:27

gotta get rid of that cat. Donald

1:20:33

is joking on behalf of pet lovers everywhere.

1:20:36

You're going to keep that cat and you're going to tame

1:20:38

him. You're going to tame him and yeah,

1:20:41

he's awesome. So trying to try

1:20:43

the pet corrector and or a water gun

1:20:46

and uh, and I guarantee you that

1:20:48

we have just fixed your life.

1:20:51

You're welcome, you guys, You're welcome. Alright,

1:20:54

You're it's been an extraordinarily long segment

1:20:57

because you've been so darn charming. We thank you

1:20:59

come on the show. Nor come back

1:21:02

and report on your life. I think

1:21:04

what you're doing is so cool and interesting

1:21:06

and um, I bet you these

1:21:08

guys would love to hear it. And if you

1:21:10

do, it is free mugs for your whole family. And

1:21:13

thank oh my god, thank you. I

1:21:16

have fifty nine people in my family.

1:21:19

Just I understand. I understand

1:21:22

Nor Nor. In a year and

1:21:24

a half, when the mug that Joel is gonna put

1:21:26

in the mail tomorrow, I

1:21:35

hope your mugat

1:21:38

that mug is gonna arrive with like seventeen

1:21:40

thousand absentee ballots in the exactly

1:21:44

one year from now. Because

1:21:50

it's a little trick, all right. I just want

1:21:52

to say, do you want to thank you so much? If there was

1:21:54

no COVID, I would see you on the mouth because I love

1:21:56

you so much. Things this happened, you

1:21:59

will getting probably, thank

1:22:01

you, thank you, Thank God.

1:22:04

I love you guys so much. And give

1:22:08

it up for Nor. What

1:22:16

a great movie. By the way, that's

1:22:18

the that's the best. Uh. That

1:22:20

is the best guest

1:22:23

at least in the ones I've been on here for that I gotten

1:22:25

to be a part of. And they're all so awesome that it

1:22:27

was amazing. Let's take a break. We'll be right back

1:22:29

after these fine words you

1:22:41

guys. I don't think Donald's ever had

1:22:43

as much fun as he did. Opening

1:22:45

Norse segment, we just con con

1:22:49

I get it. It's a fun line to say, did

1:22:52

you do you guys know that Zach directed

1:22:54

the episode with the zip line his new information

1:22:57

kid, I justest Nor,

1:23:00

You're seriously the greatest. Uh.

1:23:03

Coming up next, we have a

1:23:06

fan who actually did not come

1:23:08

to me through our email address. Funny

1:23:11

enough, she came to me through Twitter

1:23:14

with a picture of her I'm

1:23:16

no Superman tattoo I

1:23:18

knew instantly I had to have this

1:23:20

person on the pod. Her

1:23:23

name is Katie. She had a

1:23:26

super oh my gosh, gooey, lovey

1:23:29

romantic question about her

1:23:31

future wife that just melted

1:23:34

my heart. But also she was just so

1:23:36

genuinely gracious and like excited

1:23:38

to be on the show. And plus

1:23:41

she did our plugs for us so much better

1:23:43

than we ever could. So I

1:23:46

put Katie at the end of this show so we could

1:23:48

hear her plugs one more time and just appreciate

1:23:51

this love e, gooey, gorgeous

1:23:53

like message of thanks right before

1:23:55

our holiday weekend. So enjoy,

1:23:58

guys. Oh and

1:24:00

we're back, and we're

1:24:03

back with what is

1:24:05

your Name? It's Katie. Katie

1:24:10

is on the line. She

1:24:12

is going to a

1:24:16

little bit of introducing introduction for Katie

1:24:19

before we get started. A while ago, you guys

1:24:21

were really into the song I ran down

1:24:23

the ramp viral sensation and he

1:24:26

made a video where you guys were

1:24:29

with j D running down the brand your

1:24:31

video. And

1:24:37

she also has a scrubs tattoo.

1:24:41

Let me see. Let's see the tattoo. You want to see

1:24:43

it, Okay, if it's

1:24:45

sharable, I don't know what it is. It is. It's

1:24:47

on my rib cage. But I will keep it PG. I

1:24:50

promise, let me just see. I gotta flip

1:24:52

this. Okay, okay, there's

1:24:54

nothing's gonna be shown. I promise Katy

1:24:57

is not flashing us viewers. Oh

1:25:00

oh wow, it says I'm no sa in

1:25:02

the Scrubs fonts. So cool.

1:25:05

That is really cool. That's very cool. So

1:25:07

I was hoping for my face. But hey, you

1:25:09

know, um, Katie,

1:25:12

you are the perfect guest because not only does it seem

1:25:14

like you are a big Scrubs fan, I am also

1:25:16

seeing lots of Star Wars

1:25:19

memorability happening in your room, so

1:25:21

Donald will be able to dial into

1:25:23

that. Yeah, huge, huge Star Wars

1:25:25

fan. Are you a Mandalorian fan? Yeah?

1:25:29

Are you excited? Manian fan?

1:25:31

Know right? You gotta be select some weirdo from

1:25:33

like Jariar do to not

1:25:35

Yeah? Yeah

1:25:42

no, no, no, done,

1:25:51

done? Thank you? Let

1:25:54

him go. Let him know he just

1:25:56

made the baby on latch again. Uh,

1:25:58

Katie, tell us where you're calling from. I

1:26:01

am from Windsor, Ontario, Canada, which

1:26:03

is a small little city right across from

1:26:05

Detroit, Michigan. Right it's it's it's

1:26:07

near Vancouver. Right, Oh god,

1:26:10

no, no Winds

1:26:13

not Whistler windsor you're from windsor

1:26:15

wow, it's is it named after windsor

1:26:18

where the windsor castle is? I think so we have

1:26:20

a lot of like Southwestern Ontario has a lot of

1:26:22

European inspired names, like we have a Paris

1:26:25

London windsor uh

1:26:27

like all kinds of So if you can't go to Europe, just

1:26:29

come to southwestern Ontario. It's not even close

1:26:31

to the same thing. Are

1:26:33

there are the towns just named that? Or is there any sort

1:26:36

of monument castoly

1:26:38

kind of things? I think they're just named

1:26:40

that. To be honest, would

1:26:42

you say that you live in the middle of bumble fuck? It's

1:26:45

not quite bumble fuck, but it had has

1:26:47

been called the butthole of Canada just because if

1:26:49

you look at the map, the very

1:26:52

very very bottom, that's us, Like

1:26:54

we are the southernmost city. We're actually we're

1:26:56

a lot more south than like a lot of the

1:26:58

northern United States. I never understood

1:27:01

that analogy where you call something that's

1:27:03

so far south the butt hole, because

1:27:05

the butt hole isn't the furthest thing south

1:27:08

on your body. If it is, if you're if you're sitting,

1:27:10

or if you're in the fetal position. Even

1:27:13

if you're sitting, your feet are still the furthest

1:27:15

thing south if you're

1:27:17

in yoga, if that yoga position I got happy

1:27:20

baby, Well then

1:27:22

yes, then yes Katie.

1:27:26

Now you you are a good editor because

1:27:28

you made a very funny video about

1:27:31

she cut She cut Katie by

1:27:33

the way, how how do people find that video if they want to watch

1:27:35

it? It's on my Twitter at

1:27:37

Katie Rizzia. It's pinned right to the top. And

1:27:40

Katie's last name is felt r I z

1:27:42

e A. Um. She cut Donald

1:27:44

and I love the Ramp song and she

1:27:47

cut images of scrub Is, particularly

1:27:49

us running down the hospital exterior ramp

1:27:52

to the song masterfully. Are you My question

1:27:54

is are you interested? You seem like a

1:27:57

young person. Are you studying filmmaking or you

1:27:59

just naturally good that kind of stuff? I

1:28:01

didn't. I never really studied it. I just I always

1:28:03

kind of liked the creative aspect of

1:28:05

things, making photos like I do kind of photography on

1:28:07

the side. I've always loved video editing. Um,

1:28:10

I never really pursued a career in it, but I do

1:28:12

it on the side for fun. Like all the time. Well

1:28:15

you're good at it because you certainly made us laugh and

1:28:17

uh, and we appreciate it. What what do you

1:28:19

want to do? What are you pursuing? Uh? My

1:28:22

career, I suppose is I'm a office administrator.

1:28:25

Um so I work at a local college. I run the

1:28:27

health insurance and run the food bank I run.

1:28:29

I'm pretty much like the first space that

1:28:32

they see when they walk in and I'm like hello, and I just

1:28:34

do my best to solve pretty much any problem they

1:28:36

have, whether it has anything to do with me or not. I

1:28:40

love you what

1:28:46

you do and solve problems. Man,

1:28:48

the world needs more. UK. He prefers

1:28:51

to be for you. He

1:28:53

prefers to be off television. Scott, Yeah,

1:28:55

please call him TV listen.

1:28:59

I have a really quick question, um, Scott

1:29:01

Foley, what do you like? What kind of TV

1:29:05

s? Sorry? What

1:29:07

kind of water do you drink? Where

1:29:09

you don't age in twenty years? Oh

1:29:12

god, this is what we just talked about. Katie. I

1:29:15

know, why don't people write that on my way

1:29:18

here? The amount of gray happening. It's

1:29:20

a gray beard, dude, It's not a

1:29:22

gray face. By the way, Katie, Katie

1:29:24

weren't on the beginning of this. So I have to tell you that this

1:29:27

this podcast began with Donald and I posted

1:29:29

this video today and they said about Donald, Wow,

1:29:32

he doesn't age. Wow, Zach,

1:29:34

look at his wrinkles. And now you're

1:29:36

talking about Mr Foley saying what kind

1:29:38

of water does he drink? Because he doesn't

1:29:40

age. The man's older than me

1:29:42

but looks like he could be my son. That's

1:29:45

a very kind of you, Katie and Za

1:29:48

very kind of both of you. Uh what

1:29:51

the kind of water doesn't matter, Katie, just drink a lot

1:29:53

of it. Yeah, And do you use lotion?

1:29:55

Scott to use facial lotion? This

1:29:58

is embarrassing. So last night I'm putting on some I cream

1:30:00

before I get to bed, and I say to my wife, Hey, do

1:30:03

a lot of dudes do this? And without

1:30:06

hesitation, she was like, no other dude does this?

1:30:09

They do you got a moisturize,

1:30:11

That's what I'm told. By the way, my girlfriend she's always

1:30:13

putting lotion on me. She's pro definitely

1:30:17

doesn't want you looking on It feels nice, though, I kind

1:30:19

of don't do lotion because I know she's gonna come round

1:30:21

after she does hers with the excess, like oh

1:30:24

that must be great. I get the excess.

1:30:26

Do you get the smack in the face to like the type?

1:30:29

Yeah? Because you know when you need to put facial lotion on

1:30:31

and then you have extra right now, some people like me, I

1:30:33

just put it on my on my my, my

1:30:35

back for some reason, the smaller back, right,

1:30:38

It's my instinct. But my girlfriend comes

1:30:40

around with her extra and and and gives

1:30:42

it to my face. It's nice, Katy. Let's get out

1:30:44

of here. This is getting weird, Katie.

1:30:47

Do you even have a question for for

1:30:49

TV? Scott Folly or or clueless?

1:30:52

Is Donald? Phase on her eye? Why? I gotta

1:30:54

be clueless? Is Donald? I don't know your most famous

1:30:56

film? I just went with it. Well, I remember the Titans.

1:30:59

Never remember the Titans. Okay, do you have a question

1:31:01

for remember the Titans? Is Donald? No? No,

1:31:04

no, no, the guy Denzel Washington's

1:31:07

co star. Remember you have a question for

1:31:09

Denzel Washington's best friend and co

1:31:11

star? I

1:31:14

like that. I like that. I like that. Yeah,

1:31:17

I mean like obviously several questions. Um before

1:31:19

I have to first of all say thank you to Cole Lattisa

1:31:21

on Twitter because he's the one who tagged me in

1:31:24

Joel's tweet looking for me for my tattoo,

1:31:26

So if he didn't tag me, I might have never seen

1:31:28

it, and I prot him here right on, you're

1:31:30

here, thank you, thank you. So first question

1:31:33

kind of lighthearted. Um, this has been my question since

1:31:35

the very beginning, but um, it's

1:31:37

about So It's actually also kind of timely because

1:31:39

you guys just watched this episode not too long

1:31:41

ago. So if you guys woke up one morning

1:31:44

and you see an article from the news that

1:31:46

says Bill Lawrence has just released never

1:31:49

before seen footage of Nurse

1:31:51

Roberts is above ground pool party, what

1:31:54

do you guys believe in your heart

1:31:56

is going to be on that footage. I

1:32:00

think I think they're exing their faces

1:32:02

off. I think Nurse Roberts.

1:32:08

I think Nurse Roberts has some m

1:32:11

D m A and everyone is just fucking

1:32:14

grinding on each other. Oh my gosh,

1:32:18

that is an epic above ground pool party.

1:32:20

That is an epic of I

1:32:24

think that only happens on the in ground pool party.

1:32:28

I don't know, but that's a great question because we

1:32:30

know we know this fact. They were always off

1:32:32

the hook. They were crazy, ship went down

1:32:34

at these things. People like some fights,

1:32:37

people got choked out. Yeah, you know what I

1:32:39

mean. People hooked up. We know, people hooked up, people

1:32:42

hooked up. Yeah, yeah,

1:32:44

I don't know. I don't what do I think would be in Oh

1:32:47

wow, I'm sure. Wow, I'll

1:32:49

tell you what. That's a great question. If you know, we

1:32:51

got don't know, I get tagged and a lot of fan art

1:32:53

on Instagram. And if you're an artist and you want

1:32:55

to do a doodle, do what you

1:32:58

imagine is happening at

1:33:00

Nurse Roberts is above ground poolpo Oh

1:33:02

my god, this is gonna be so gnarly. People are gonna

1:33:04

put the gnarliest things you've ever seen in your life,

1:33:06

go crazy, and then we'll we'll put some on our

1:33:09

stories. Although Joel has to

1:33:11

freaking cypher through all of this. Man,

1:33:13

No, no, no, no, no, they're gonna they're gonna know, they're

1:33:15

gonna tag us on Instagram, so they'll show up

1:33:17

in our feed and then

1:33:19

yeah, and then well, you know, don't, don't don't

1:33:22

have the pleasure. Yeah, don't. Well, actually, I'm

1:33:24

not gonna give you any restrictions. Go nuts, what is

1:33:26

happening? And Robert, you

1:33:31

know, Instagram will give you restrictions. Let's

1:33:33

put it down. Instagram will give you restrictions. Well, yeah,

1:33:35

I mean, don't don't have like cocks flying and everything.

1:33:38

If they are, have them be hidden behind Wait

1:33:40

wait wait wait wait what I'm

1:33:43

saying like, be be crazy. But if

1:33:45

they if someone goes and draws like penises

1:33:47

flying, we'll have to like blur it. Probably you can't

1:33:49

put that in our story or

1:33:52

not. Remember mama being two p G

1:33:55

not at at

1:33:58

all. You're on not being PG

1:34:00

at all. Dude. Someone went and put

1:34:03

Donald, me and Johnny sees heads on a

1:34:05

on a on a gay porn still and

1:34:08

um, it's hilarious. I sent it to Donald

1:34:10

and Johnny c um word

1:34:17

everybody else it's

1:34:19

not because it's but

1:34:23

Johnny wrote something so back like oh my god.

1:34:26

Johnny wrote back something like, oh my god, Zachie,

1:34:28

what have you done? And I started to think.

1:34:30

I started to think that he thought that I made it

1:34:33

right, like like I always

1:34:35

sitting at home on my photoshop. All

1:34:44

right, Katie, do you have another question? Yeah?

1:34:46

And I hope it's okay you all. I just thought of this earlier

1:34:48

and that's not the one we talked about. Okay,

1:34:51

Okay, So I this one is a little bit more

1:34:54

I guess serious, not really serious. Um. Most

1:34:57

shows and like a lot of TV shows, most often comedies,

1:34:59

they tend to like run beyond

1:35:01

their course, so to speak, and Scrubs up

1:35:03

eight seasons was like perfect, it

1:35:06

didn't go too long. So I'm just wondering

1:35:08

what the feel on set was for you

1:35:10

guys, Like how did you find out that season

1:35:13

eight was ending? Like how did they tell you?

1:35:15

And like how did that feel filming the

1:35:17

last of it? Knowing this is it? Like

1:35:19

this is the end? Well, you know. The crazy

1:35:22

thing is we never really other than season two

1:35:24

and three, we never really knew what our

1:35:27

fate was at the end of every season. It

1:35:29

wasn't until around you know, right

1:35:31

before upfronts where they announced

1:35:33

all of the new fall shows, that we found

1:35:36

out we were coming back for most of the uh

1:35:39

time while we were making Scrubs and

1:35:42

if you recall, season eight isn't

1:35:45

I don't know if you know this, but season eight isn't

1:35:47

even on the original network that

1:35:49

Scrubs was on. So every year

1:35:51

felt like, well, this could be it. I

1:35:53

hope I get to see you next fall, you know what I mean? Or

1:35:55

I go bige to see you in the summer. When

1:35:58

it was announced that it was finally over,

1:36:00

that season eight was going to be the last

1:36:03

episode of Scrubs

1:36:06

as we knew it, that was kind of it was kind

1:36:08

of like one of those things where you I

1:36:10

didn't believe it until, you

1:36:12

know what I mean, until it was over, and then there was this long

1:36:14

pause in between, and then we went and did the The

1:36:17

Interns Show. But for

1:36:19

the longest time, I honestly believed

1:36:22

that, yeah, sure, this is the

1:36:24

last season, but we'll be back next season, you

1:36:26

know what I mean. And so I you

1:36:28

know, a lot of people talk about how uh

1:36:31

emotional they were when we were making

1:36:34

the season final, the series finale.

1:36:37

I don't know if you remember, Zach, I wasn't necessarily

1:36:39

that emotional. Everybody else was really emotional.

1:36:41

I still thought we'd be back next season, and believe

1:36:43

it or not, I was so wrong, but you

1:36:46

know, so in doing it, I didn't. I wasn't

1:36:48

as emotional as everybody else was. Sarah

1:36:50

was very emotional. I remember that. I was

1:36:52

very emotional, but I I feel like

1:36:55

I wanted a new chapter of my

1:36:58

life. I was so blessed. I mean, I

1:37:01

was so clear how lucky we were. I was so

1:37:03

blessed for the opportunity and and for

1:37:05

how the show changed our life, and

1:37:08

for the incredible support we have from

1:37:10

this most loyal and amazing fan

1:37:12

base. But I think I and

1:37:16

Bill would probably say it was time to

1:37:18

like try something new. And Scott

1:37:20

can speak to this because he's done very long runs on

1:37:22

shows, and you kind of go like,

1:37:25

this is amazing, and I'm so clear, I'm lucky.

1:37:28

Yeah, I do want my life to have other

1:37:30

chapters. For me, I wanted to have

1:37:33

a family, and and it's very hard. It was hard

1:37:35

for me to maintain relationships and

1:37:37

build not just romantic relationships but friendships

1:37:40

because of the time I spent um in

1:37:43

the abandoned hospital, and I I

1:37:45

wanted to sort of take that to a

1:37:47

new chapter. I wanted to make more movies and

1:37:50

and and do more filmmaking. So I

1:37:52

felt so grateful and I was so sad, But at

1:37:54

the time I felt like I

1:37:57

want, I wanted something new to to start.

1:38:00

You must have I was gonna

1:38:02

I was gonna ask you, Scott, because Scandal ran a really

1:38:04

long time, Felicity had a really nice run,

1:38:06

the unit had a really nice run, like, all

1:38:08

of these shows that you were on, you've experienced,

1:38:11

uh ending for a lot of shows. Have all

1:38:14

of them gone out on first the terms that

1:38:17

you guys wanted it to go out on, and

1:38:19

second, how are you feeling when you got

1:38:21

to that point. I don't think any

1:38:23

of them have gone out on the terms that you

1:38:26

want them to go out on. You know, television is the

1:38:29

kind of business the television is is is you

1:38:31

wanted to run forever? Right? Paycheck?

1:38:34

Good group of people, um, And you

1:38:37

know, I think I think everyone from the actors

1:38:40

to the writers to the crew is like, oh wow,

1:38:42

that's I gotta go look for a job now, which

1:38:44

is never fun. Um. But I

1:38:47

think there is a

1:38:50

certain feeling when you've done a

1:38:52

hundred plus episodes of a TV show

1:38:55

that runs through everybody's head. And I think

1:38:57

everybody has some similar

1:39:01

feeling, which is this has been

1:39:03

great. If this keeps going, is this all

1:39:06

I'm going to do? And that's not necessarily

1:39:08

a bad thing, but I want to try something

1:39:10

else. But there is also

1:39:12

like I'm not done with it yet, you know, like

1:39:16

because ultimately it's not us. With the

1:39:18

exception scandal, Shonda Rhymes was

1:39:20

the person who said, the

1:39:22

show is done. I don't want to write anymore. The

1:39:25

show has had a great arc

1:39:27

and the characters I've told the stories I

1:39:29

want to tell, and that's it. I think had

1:39:32

the network had their way, the show would have gone on for another

1:39:34

ten years because it was doing so well. Um

1:39:37

but but it's always Katie.

1:39:39

It's always um sad.

1:39:41

And you know, these are people that you you get

1:39:44

to know really well. And you guys can speak to this

1:39:46

as well. You become really close there your

1:39:48

family, You see them more than you do

1:39:50

your friends. All my friends know that. When I'm on a

1:39:52

TV show, I disappear for nine

1:39:54

months and it's you know, it's

1:39:57

kind of who I am and what you gotta do with It's

1:39:59

an amazing um uh, you're so lucky to

1:40:01

have it happen, but you do sacrifice

1:40:03

a bunch of things, um like I can. That's

1:40:06

coming as a guy who doesn't have children yet

1:40:08

like these guys too. I mean, Donald had to go on

1:40:10

his last show and be in Jersey

1:40:13

City with his family in Los Angeles

1:40:15

and being hard from his kids for that long, and that

1:40:17

was really really really hard on on everybody

1:40:20

except for his wife. Yeah, she was

1:40:22

so happy. I was gone. She was cranking.

1:40:25

Don't stop believing. I

1:40:29

came back home and my wife was like, oh, no, that's

1:40:31

not how we do that. Like I did one thing,

1:40:33

She's like, no, that's not how we do things here. That's

1:40:36

brutal. Yeah, brutal. It happens

1:40:38

to me too. Who do you what do you think you're doing? This is how we

1:40:40

do it. Now. I had to go through the

1:40:43

crash course of how to live in my own house.

1:40:45

It was, oh, that's not

1:40:47

how we do think that. My mom is

1:40:49

a as a psychologist and has

1:40:51

done a lot of marriage counseling, and she said, one of the most

1:40:53

common things couples fight

1:40:55

about is how to load the dishwasher. What

1:40:59

right, I don't have that problem. I don't

1:41:02

that problem because you don't do it. I

1:41:04

thought the dishwashing she

1:41:07

was just giving. She was an examing

1:41:10

example of like thing that couples argue

1:41:12

about, and then a big one. You're not supposed

1:41:14

to tell you. That's exactly right, Scott.

1:41:16

You're not supposed to tell anybody how to do If

1:41:19

you tell me how to do it, I'll stop doing it. Right, I'm not gonna

1:41:21

I'm gonna keep going, right,

1:41:25

Oh no, that's not how you put the trash can in the trash

1:41:27

the trash bag in the trash can. All right, didn't you

1:41:30

do the ship? Then you got it? That's what

1:41:32

I thought. You got it. You got it. Cut

1:41:34

to Donald being like, yes, we heard hold

1:41:38

over the corners. All

1:41:41

right, Katie, it's time for Canada's

1:41:43

favorite segment. It's

1:41:45

time to wait, hold

1:41:47

on, let's do it again, Katie, It's

1:41:50

time to fix your

1:41:56

Sorry if the baby was latching. Uh, Katie,

1:42:00

We we really really have are transforming

1:42:02

the world with this second. We're transforming

1:42:05

every little corner. Oprah

1:42:07

doesn't have shit on us. Why because

1:42:10

we are really helping way more than she ever did

1:42:12

on her little show. Well, I

1:42:15

want to know. I want to know that Joel

1:42:17

just looked away and rolled their eyes. That

1:42:20

was that? Was that? That? That is not my

1:42:22

opinion of it either. So

1:42:25

please don't I love that you guys think that Oprah

1:42:27

is listening and writing your names on a list of people

1:42:30

that not hang out with. Listen. You have

1:42:35

both Donald and you are like listen, Oprah. In case

1:42:37

you're listening, that is not me. Sorry, listen,

1:42:40

Joel, you gotta let him think he's Opra because then we might

1:42:42

all get a car. Yes. Oh,

1:42:45

by the way, we are going to give a special treat out

1:42:47

today, I think Joel. Right, yes, okay,

1:42:50

we'll save that from the end. Um, all

1:42:52

right, Katie, go ahead, it's

1:42:57

better than that. All right, Katie, go

1:42:59

ahead with or questioned. Okay,

1:43:01

so I did think of something. I was racking

1:43:03

my brain because I mean, I don't want to sound

1:43:05

like an asshole. But I'm very blessed. My life's

1:43:08

pretty great right now. But I do welcome

1:43:10

Katie just

1:43:14

fixed. That's the shortest

1:43:16

segment we ever did. Good work. Uh

1:43:19

No, it's a rare opportunity for

1:43:21

you guys to fix my future life

1:43:23

because um, I'm getting married

1:43:25

next year, thank

1:43:29

you. And it actually it's in California,

1:43:31

so you guys can all come through. We'll be there.

1:43:33

You invite me, Invite me as

1:43:36

long as the bouze is free. Invite me. You

1:43:39

are all invited. You can carry me down

1:43:41

the aisle. I don't want to do all that I didn't

1:43:45

want. I don't want to be I don't I don't

1:43:47

want to do manual labor, the flower girl,

1:43:50

throw the flowers. I just want to be there. I

1:43:53

just want to be there. I want to be there, have a

1:43:55

drink and leave. Okay, that's fine, we

1:43:58

can do that. So

1:44:00

my question to you guys, and like all all

1:44:02

of you would just be how like what

1:44:04

would your advice be to me? To just

1:44:07

be like the best possible partner

1:44:09

I can be to my fiance. Um,

1:44:11

she is the most amazing person

1:44:14

ever. She's my best friend. She's

1:44:16

so beautiful and I just want to make her

1:44:18

happy forever. Oh God, I

1:44:20

will say, I'm gonna say

1:44:23

one thing and one thing only, alright,

1:44:25

But a taf patience

1:44:30

is so important. That is

1:44:33

the most important thing you can have.

1:44:35

My wife has the most patience

1:44:38

out of anybody I've ever met in

1:44:40

my life, because if I had to deal with someone like

1:44:42

me, I would freaking

1:44:45

not I leave

1:44:47

me. I would leave me if I had to deal

1:44:49

with me. And so my wife is

1:44:52

one of the most patient people on the planet

1:44:54

and loves me unconditionally. And

1:44:56

if you got that in you, there's

1:44:59

nothing that can be done. Well,

1:45:02

I shouldn't say that, there's very little that

1:45:04

could be done to ruin your relationship.

1:45:07

My wife's tolerance of my bullshit

1:45:09

is what keeps our relationship a fluid all

1:45:14

right, Scott Fully, you are married with children

1:45:16

in a successful relationship. What's your advice,

1:45:19

Oh, man, Uh, I

1:45:22

think patience is a good one. I would I would

1:45:25

urge you to listen to

1:45:28

not just what they're saying,

1:45:31

but how your fiance is saying it

1:45:34

and why they're saying it. You know why. I

1:45:36

found, uh, through uh

1:45:39

much trial and error that when

1:45:42

my wife is telling

1:45:45

me something or angry at something or or frustrated

1:45:48

about something, uh, listening

1:45:51

to that and not it's the hardest thing

1:45:53

for me. Not trying to fix

1:45:55

it, um, which a lot

1:45:57

of men try to do. And you don't seem to have that problem,

1:46:00

I don't think, um. But

1:46:04

but just listening

1:46:06

and um and not

1:46:08

try to fix whatever

1:46:11

the problem might be is

1:46:13

sometimes the best way to go because

1:46:16

a lot of the times my wife doesn't want me to fix it, or it's

1:46:18

it's not fixable. Um, it's

1:46:21

just a matter of being there

1:46:23

for someone. UM. I'm

1:46:26

not married. But one thing I

1:46:28

think really helps me when I'm communicating

1:46:31

in relationships, and this goes

1:46:33

for not just from any relationship, not just romantic

1:46:36

relationships, is being able to admit when you're

1:46:38

wrong. I think people automatically

1:46:40

as human beings. We shift into defend

1:46:43

what you did at all costs, and

1:46:46

there's so much power in being

1:46:48

able to take responsibility and truly

1:46:51

listening to the person and it might not be,

1:46:53

uh, what you intended, it may not have

1:46:56

been what you thought you said, but

1:46:58

whatever it is that had them because

1:47:00

of the way they experienced it, you

1:47:02

can go. There's so much power I

1:47:05

have found being able to go, Okay, I'm

1:47:07

just giving you a random example that is certainly

1:47:09

not what I intended, and I'm very

1:47:12

sorry that that that made you feel that way, and

1:47:14