0:00

And here he is America's favorite

0:02

phase on Donald's Faison. What

0:05

were you guys just talking about? We were

0:07

talking about Oculus, but I don't want to talk about

0:09

it anymore because we already gave them a seven minute

0:11

ad today, did

0:13

we give Okay, we can talk about it a little bit.

0:16

Joelle tried. Joelle

0:18

tried to gain the paint game. Joelle, howd

0:20

it go? It was so

0:22

cool. I really liked

0:25

the star like thing. That

0:27

was great. You can't see stars where I live in Los

0:29

Angeles, but I'm from

0:32

the country. We used to live where the corn

0:34

grows, and I missed stars, and so I just spent

0:36

like twenty minutes and there just stargazing. And

0:38

then I found out you could get like a

0:41

dress bust, you know where they like pin all

0:43

the clothes to it so that you can like design

0:46

clothes with the light in different textures

0:48

they have. So I made pretty dresses for

0:50

like twenty minutes. Oh, I didn't know you

0:52

could make make clothes. I gotta

0:55

try that. Fun as hell. And then yeah,

0:57

walking around in your own like

0:59

design and some of the colors were like flash

1:01

and do like pretty rainbow things. It's

1:03

very if you were a Lisa Frank person.

1:07

Enjoy this app. You can be your own

1:09

Lisa Frank. I don't know who Lisa Frank

1:11

is. Oh my god. Okay. In the

1:14

nineties, Lisa Frank made like trapper

1:16

keepers and binders and folders, but they were all

1:18

like neon tigers and elephants

1:21

and dolphins, and dolphins were huge, just beautiful,

1:23

beautiful stuff. But all the girls in the nineties had

1:25

Lisa Frank binders and such. Oh got

1:27

it? Hey, did you get more Instagram followers

1:29

because I blew up your hot picture that you posted?

1:33

I did? I think maybe a thousand more people,

1:35

maybe a thousand. Yeah, that's

1:37

wow, that's a lot. I was gonna I

1:39

was gonna write something like, you know, only

1:42

slide into your DMS if you mean business.

1:44

But then I said, I'm just gonna not en don't

1:47

don't do that. Don't do that, don't do that. I was worried she'd

1:49

get dick picks, so I didn't. Yeah,

1:52

let me just censor the uh. I

1:54

don't you know what? You know what's interesting?

1:57

Do you go through like all of your emails

1:59

Joe my emails?

2:02

Ye, not your emails, your your DMS. I'm

2:04

sorry when I'll

2:07

scroll through them, because sometimes people have very lovely

2:09

things to say, and they're like, I don't know how to reach you.

2:11

I just want to say, and I'm like, oh my god, that's so nice.

2:13

Thank you. If you're sending me a picture,

2:16

they're all blurred out. I don't know what they

2:18

say. I can't see them. I don't look at them.

2:20

They're probably there's a couple

2:23

I've opened with you and been like, that's a screwed them and I

2:25

don't want it. And you men,

2:29

What is it with men sending dicks? I mean it's

2:31

I mean, it's obviously just the fucking power power

2:33

thing. But I never understood, like, what do they think

2:35

the responses they're going to get from sending a picture

2:38

of their dick? I want to put it in my mouth.

2:41

They're never gonna get that. I mean, if you're the one woman

2:44

in the world or man who's responded

2:46

mm, looks good, then you've ruined it

2:48

for everybody, because people keeping a

2:56

lot of people give me ship for eating popcorn yesterday.

2:59

I'm sorry, everybody. I'm sorry,

3:01

but you

3:04

edited some of it out, Danel, Yeah, I mean I

3:06

had to cut some of it out. Some of it was very explicit.

3:08

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I don't know what happened,

3:11

Daniel. What happened to your webcam? Man? We don't

3:13

need It's just it's not working

3:15

right. I want the audience to know. I just want the audience

3:17

to know the dann a very fancy webcam

3:20

because he's missed her a computer guy, and we can't

3:22

see him because it doesn't work. The woman's stream

3:24

will look better. All it says.

3:27

All it says is image edge webcam.

3:30

Yeah, you're image

3:36

I would tell you if you're out in the market for webcam, don't

3:38

get an imaging edge one.

3:45

Hey Daniel, do you want to plug your stream?

3:47

Since I gave Joelle a shout out for

3:49

for Instagram? What what is your streaming? What's

3:51

your streaming thing? Watch you play

3:54

stream on twitch at twitch dot tv slash

3:56

dj underscore Daniel like my Twitter

3:59

handle my stream on Wednesdays

4:01

and Sunday nights seven pm onward.

4:04

And what game do you play? Yeah?

4:06

What game play? Everything? Playing

4:08

a lot of the new season of Fall. Guys.

4:10

There's a brand new GTA five Heist

4:12

that came out today. I play a lot from that.

4:15

That GTA Heights looks

4:18

fire, looks I

4:21

haven't. I haven't played I haven't played gt

4:23

Granted, I haven't played GTA or Red Dead

4:26

in about a year now since I got home and COVID

4:28

happened. And you know, you can't. You can't

4:30

just immerse yourself in these world

4:33

worlds for hours when you've got

4:35

you know, eight, a seven

4:37

year old and a five year old running round of course. Of course,

4:40

but there used to be a big GTA guy.

4:42

He was addicted making scrubs. You were playing,

4:44

dude, GTA got to well. I wonder

4:47

how they're gonna address it with the

4:49

ps what is it a five now?

4:52

Yeah? And the Xbox what is it an Xbox,

4:55

Xbox series X whatever the

4:57

whatever it is? Right, Yeah, there's

5:00

how many there's so many consoles. But anyway,

5:02

I wonder how they're going to address that because

5:05

the graphics and the fluidity

5:07

of the original were always

5:10

fire anyway, Like you could do everything and anything

5:12

in GTA. You can fly, you can rob

5:14

somebody. They even made it so you could rob banks

5:17

and stuff like that. Like they it gets

5:19

to it. It's it's high level, uh,

5:22

you know, scum and villainy. Villainy.

5:24

However, he's that scum and villainy. Yeah, it's high

5:27

level. How do they

5:29

address that? How do they address that with the

5:31

new consoles? How do they make it? How do you make it

5:33

more realistic than is the question?

5:36

And and can you make it

5:38

virtual? Like what would be

5:40

fire for these games now is

5:43

if what's the thing that they had

5:45

in that movie when a boy

5:47

jumped on a treadmill and could run in any direction

5:51

if you could? Yeah, I

5:55

love them first of all that they

5:57

do. Yeah, they have things like

6:00

like I know, they got the best

6:02

I know you put like wheeled sneakers

6:04

on and you and you walk

6:06

around in this uh

6:09

circle, rig right, Daniel, you know what I'm

6:11

talking about? Yeah, oh absolutely. What's it called?

6:14

I think it's called like an omni omni track. You

6:16

have like a little wasting that goes around you and then it's

6:18

like a treadmill that just moves in any direction.

6:20

They're very cool. That would be

6:22

that would be a really cool but

6:25

yeah, I don't know how you would That

6:27

would be really cool if you could figure out a way to be

6:29

actually jump into the universe like

6:31

in Ready Player one. That's next. Obviously

6:34

we're so far away from that. We're something

6:37

we're that far away from it. I mean, just messing

6:39

around with the oculus too. Now I'm seeing

6:41

we're not far away from it. All right, we should get to the show because

6:43

people don't want to hear another long VR conversation.

6:46

I'm sure it was. It's just so listen

6:48

for all of you out there, I'm just saying, they've

6:50

got the PS fives and the Xbox

6:53

whatever it is. But I'm telling you that oculus.

6:55

Man, all right, it's a very special

6:57

show, you know what. Amazing. First

6:59

of all, it's an amazing show. It's

7:01

I may not know. I did not know how

7:04

emotional I was going to get at the end of this. You

7:06

hit me up and you were like, yo, h it's

7:09

uh, it's it's it's

7:11

My screw Up. Yeah. Should we have

7:13

rating on? And immediately I was

7:15

like, oh, snap, we're already yet the rating

7:18

episode. Well listen, I had thought for

7:20

since we started. Here's the thing about My

7:22

screw Up. It's a lot of people's favorite episodes.

7:24

It's one of the highest ranking episodes

7:26

in terms of like the way

7:29

they write ranked people, fans ranked

7:31

things on TV dot Com. It's ranked

7:33

I read it's tied for highest with an

7:36

episode called My Lunch from season five,

7:39

so it is a lot of people's favorite episode.

7:41

We had planned to have Brandon on, We had planned to have Johnny

7:44

on, but you know, between COVID and the holidays

7:46

and our schedules, everything's all fa cocky. So

7:48

I just said to to Donald,

7:50

why don't we have Josh Raiden on? Because Josh Raiden,

7:53

for those of you don't know, wrote

7:55

the song Winter that plays at the end of the show, and

7:57

that that song launched his entire

7:59

career. It broke him. It

8:01

broke him literally, it broke him.

8:04

It turned him into the

8:06

Josh raiding that Listen, Man, I remember

8:08

going to see Josh. Wait, wait, let's save it. Let's invite him

8:10

in, danil is he here? Save bringing

8:13

in? Let's see what he looks like. Oh,

8:17

funderous applause, Dan, I'm thunderous.

8:20

Applause. Joshu will

8:22

write, Okay,

8:31

okay, someone's had some coffee. Someone's

8:33

had some coffee. He's barking. This is

8:35

my first podcast. We have, we started,

8:37

we'd already begune. We did a whole we did.

8:39

We've been talking about you on the podcast. It's it's

8:42

happening, all right, and we're back

8:44

in everybody. We had

8:46

a very interesting thing we edited out trying

8:48

to educate a professional magician

8:50

how to record himself. Josh,

8:52

why do you call him a magician? Did you just call him

8:54

a magician a musician? How come, Josh,

8:57

you don't know how to record yourself? I

8:59

remember called intelligent. We're

9:03

so happy you're here, everybody. So, if you

9:05

don't know, Joshua Raiding is

9:07

my friend from Northwestern and

9:10

he also he's my friend. He's

9:12

my friend. I introduced him to Donald

9:14

faz one Vegas

9:17

trip. That's all it took, even before Vegas,

9:19

though I met in New

9:21

York. We met in New York, Dude, Jeff Sucker,

9:24

I know we met in New York. Josh,

9:26

you were there that night, back when you had a

9:28

whole other life, man, back before

9:31

you were a musician, back when you were

9:33

dating another girl. Now

9:35

now you're freaking a freaking I'm

9:37

gonna say it. You're a playboy, dog, You're a

9:39

true player. You're a rock star. Man. Do

9:43

you know how hard it is to be single in a pandemic?

9:46

Oh? I not feel for him, dude, he's doing

9:48

this all alone. You can't date. And

9:50

then Joel knows you can't date during during

9:53

COVID and die. So

9:55

yeah, but you could set up so much stuff and when

9:57

COVID's over just played out, you can have

10:00

You got the gift, man, you got the voice,

10:02

and you got the guitar. That is all

10:05

you need. I know, but that should

10:07

be put on layaway and people out

10:09

there. I'll be like, Okay, I will wait until

10:11

two twenty twenty two

10:15

to give up somebody's

10:17

goods. One thing to be like laying foundation,

10:20

Joel. I'm sure is laying some foundation,

10:22

right, Joel, you're flirting too a little bit. I

10:28

got the job done

10:31

well, but I just I

10:33

get the job done well

10:36

anyway. So, Josh, you met Donald

10:38

for the first time our infamous Big night.

10:40

Josh was my great

10:42

friend in New York and then I got Scrubs

10:45

and we went through it all together.

10:47

We went through the life change, right, Josh,

10:50

I watched some pretty hilarious things.

10:52

Yeah, and Donald Donald and I were

10:55

instantly inseparable, and Josh

10:58

was there with us through many an adventure.

11:01

Listen, man, we're going to get your best

11:03

friend become famous. Is a is

11:05

a very interesting thing. And vice

11:08

versa, dude, and vice versa.

11:10

Oh, I mean when I mean when I say famous, I mean

11:12

the kind of famous that we'd walked down the street New York

11:14

and sometimes I would walk like, you

11:16

know, ten feet behind Zach through the

11:18

city just to watch people right after

11:21

they pass him go, oh my god, that was Zach Brath.

11:23

Oh my god's the guy from Scrubs. You know. It was

11:26

so funny to watch people's reactions to

11:28

see I just do that to

11:31

myself in real time. It was cool just

11:33

to piggyback on that, you

11:35

know, Josh, at least I could say

11:38

for myself. I remember going to like the

11:40

hotel cafe or to like

11:43

you know, I guess, yeah, just

11:45

the hotel cafe really and it being

11:47

empty and it just being me, Zach,

11:51

Mandy Moore, and Minka Kelly,

11:53

and that was it in the in the audience

11:56

watching you perform, and you would

11:58

go on after like some other act and some

12:00

other act, and then it would be just you and

12:02

you'd get to do like three songs, and we'd

12:05

wait the whole night for you to go

12:07

up and perform. Dude, and that's you and

12:09

now and then so and then so it

12:12

blew my mind. And I'm gonna

12:14

say this you know, it's great that you know, the music

12:16

was on scrubs and everything like that,

12:18

but there was still struggle after the music

12:20

was on scrubs and people don't really know that shit. You

12:22

know, the song was brought and everything like

12:25

that, but you know, it wasn't like you know, it

12:27

wasn't like an overnight all of a sudden

12:29

instant thing, you know what I mean.

12:32

It's I'm still waiting for that big break.

12:36

Well, Josh, tell everyone, do

12:38

we ever count in? I forgot about

12:41

six seven, eight stories about

12:43

Sure, we made about

12:46

a bunch of nurses stories.

12:55

So gather around here,

12:58

yato around here?

13:05

Did you guys see that Josh Josh

13:07

Rayden kaijacking the five secres. Usually

13:09

the guests wait for permission, but no

13:12

Josh. Longtime listeners,

13:15

Ac tell everyone, actually, Josh is

13:17

one of my few friends. Josh

13:19

and my girlfriend's mom are the only people left

13:21

in my life that's still listen to the podcast. Your

13:23

mom doesn't listen anymore. I don't think my mom.

13:25

Well, she might, but she doesn't mention it. Carrie

13:30

Brothers mentioned I was on Mark Maron's podcast

13:32

He Like Loved You on Mark Marron's podcast. He

13:34

doesn't bring up this podcast anymore. But

13:37

Josh Raydon often listens

13:40

when he's hiking, as I understand it, right, Josh, I

13:42

know Johnny still listens to the podcast. Actually

13:45

cast your podcast for the Well, I've

13:47

told you this, but I'll tell your listeners right

13:49

when the world shut down. I

13:52

live here in la as you guys do, and

13:55

I live up in the hills, and there's all these like

13:57

stone stairs that go through the hills. These secret

13:59

stone stairs that I COVID got me so

14:01

scared that I wanted to get in good

14:05

cardiovascular shape because obviously

14:08

the better shape you're in for a respiratory

14:10

disease of yours.

14:12

So I started running up and down

14:14

these stairs every morning, and the

14:17

podcast was the only thing that got me through. Well,

14:19

that's great. We've had a lot of people say

14:21

they exercised and inspired

14:23

them, and that makes us very happy. I have to see because I didn't

14:26

get to see you guys for so long until we like we

14:28

formed a pod and then I could see you in

14:30

like in our backyards are just our few, you know,

14:32

tightest friends. But it was like I

14:35

went like a good six weeks, seven weeks

14:37

without seeing one single person, you know, just

14:39

sitting in my house by myself and so

14:41

listening to you guys talk, uh, you

14:44

know twice a week was was just

14:47

saved my life. Really, you know, we don't

14:49

never talk about that type of stuff, being

14:52

by yourself for six weeks, Josh, other

14:54

than like, I guess face

14:56

timing and how did

14:58

you how did you cope with that when COVID first

15:01

hit Joe, Well, you have your brother with you, right,

15:03

yeah, Joel, because her brother Josh was totally

15:05

alone. You were do loo basically.

15:08

It's it's interestingly I finished

15:10

my European tour. I was mid

15:13

January to mid February this

15:15

year in a different city in Europe

15:17

every day, like hugging people, shaking hands,

15:19

you know, meeting so many different people every

15:22

day. Right when COVID was kind of like starting,

15:24

but it wasn't a big thing yet, people were like,

15:26

oh, what's this, you know, And

15:28

so I got really sick for the whole month

15:31

of that tour. I had this weird throat infection. So but

15:33

it was before we knew really what it was, and then I

15:35

finally just got over it. But

15:37

it culminated in Italy in mid February,

15:40

you know, which was one of the Hot Spots Wow, which is

15:42

one of the hots Wow. Right

15:44

then, I mean I was like, I had to postpone a show

15:46

in Rome because I lost my voice and anyway,

15:49

So I think I had it, but I don't really know. Everybody

15:52

everybody has that story, right, everybody

15:54

has that I think I had it. I don't have

15:56

that. I don't. I don't think I had it. But Josh, did

15:58

you get the anybody test? Or did it go away in the editor.

16:01

I went into our doctor, as

16:03

you know, we share a doctor, and I got

16:05

the antibody's test, but it was like six months later

16:07

and they were He said, we don't even know if these

16:09

tests are going to give a false positive or pulse

16:12

negative. We don't you know, anybody's

16:14

my only last two or three months, you know. So it

16:17

turns out I didn't have them after all that time. But

16:19

my point I was making was that, right,

16:21

I just finished touring this new album, all

16:24

of it, and I thought to myself, I'm gonna go home

16:26

and sit in my house by myself and write a new album

16:29

and not see anyone for like three months, and

16:31

then it's basically going to turn into a year and a half

16:33

of not seeing anyone, but I did when

16:35

we at least folded you into our pods,

16:38

we can see you, We see you. You're gonna

16:40

come over for Jesus's

16:42

birthday. That's true, and

16:44

neither one of you. You both are freaking

16:47

yahweh is looking down on

16:50

YouTube like, no, you're

16:52

always down for us to celebrate a

16:55

very nice Jewish man's birthday. Yeah.

16:57

Also, Zach friend

17:00

is not Jewish, and it is a huge Christmas

17:02

lover and she's very into so

17:05

we're gonna be very supportive of her first

17:07

Christmas in La. I wanted

17:09

to say that you give up your identity.

17:11

You hate your own people. You two, you hate

17:13

your own people. Josh is skimming

17:16

over the fact that he didn't just get in respiratory

17:18

shape. He got in the sickest shape I've ever

17:21

seen him in. Yeah he he No, he's

17:23

got the sea gutters, dude, He's got the whole thing.

17:28

Oh wait, Joe, she

17:31

s headed, Okay,

17:33

so what is this? I

17:36

just want to know what is a sea gutter? I

17:38

don't want to see it in front of Joel. Joel, can you take

17:41

your headphones off from the go ahead?

17:43

All right? Joel took her headphones off, it's

17:45

they call him cum gutters and it's under

17:47

the whoa whoa, under the abs

17:50

right here, like like

17:52

the v and and theoretically,

17:55

I'm sorry earmums if you're in the car

17:57

with your kids, but it's where the

18:00

semen would would likely gather like a gutter.

18:03

Okay, so all

18:07

right, Joe, well put your head hold on hold

18:09

on No no no no no no no no no no no it

18:11

wasn't. You don't necessarily have to

18:13

Okay, she's a grown ass woman. You don't necessarily

18:16

have to be in shape to have. Yes,

18:18

you do the kind of I

18:20

have talking Brad. I'm telling him, Brad pennon

18:22

fight Club, the vait

18:25

he could catch it in all of it. He could catch

18:27

it there, all of it. No, No, we're

18:30

trading in this podcast. It's all just audio. Right, it's

18:33

just audio. Show us. Yeah, show show

18:35

Josh and show this see

18:38

those look at this ship.

18:42

Yeah you didn't

18:44

know that. Donald, I didn't know that.

18:46

The last time I saw him he was kind of getting into

18:48

dude. He looks like that now, thanks

18:51

thanks to the podcast. What do you got the

18:53

peloton? No, you got the stairs, you got stay,

18:56

you got the stairs. More than that though

18:59

you can't just high. I can get abs like that dog.

19:01

He changed his whole diet. He changes. I don't know.

19:03

I don't know where to where I would put a peloton

19:06

in my house. I'd have to put it outside. I don't think you can do that,

19:08

because then I could buy you in.

19:11

Dog. What you're eating, you're not eating?

19:13

He doesn't. He he doesn't

19:15

smoke weed because it gives him munch. You

19:17

stopped smoking weed? Yeah, I've been

19:20

eating healthy. He's smoking cigarettes.

19:22

Oh, I haven't smoke cigarettes in years. Good

19:25

Josh was a big smoker. And ladies and gentlemen,

19:27

he is proof that a hypnotist can work because

19:29

he went to a hypnotist once and never smoked

19:32

again. Right, Josh, it you

19:34

know I didn't have a drag of a cigarette after

19:36

that for about ten years.

19:39

And then I went through a bad breakup with my ex girlfriend

19:41

and started a little bit again.

19:44

And then No, but the hypnotists work.

19:46

Speaking speaking speaking a bad break

19:49

He probably doesn't want to talk about his break. No but speaking

19:51

a bad breakup. Let's just get into the song now, then,

19:53

Ladies and gentlemen, paperweight, No,

19:55

No, Donald

19:57

and I have Donald

19:59

and I share one of

20:01

our favorite Josh Raids songs. We played it on the show Paperweight.

20:04

That's one of our favorites. I remember, thank you for doing

20:06

that. I listened to that episode. Now

20:08

it's in so many movies, man, Josh's

20:12

music. All right, we gotta go back. We're being bad interviewers here,

20:14

we're jumping around. I got distracted by his sea gutters.

20:16

Now, Josh,

20:20

Josh, tell

20:22

everyone the story. So, Josh, I

20:25

mean, because you just just give everyone of

20:27

a cliff notes version of your trajectory.

20:30

Because you were a screenwriter in You're a

20:32

screenwriter in Manhattan. With with you and I

20:34

were became friendly being

20:36

young aspiring writers in Manhattan.

20:39

And then just give everyone some some

20:41

some bullet points of what happened to you. Well,

20:43

yeah, I was a struggling

20:45

screenwriter. I had I was

20:47

waiting tables and doing you know, catering

20:50

gigs and things like that in New York, like starving

20:53

artists sort of stuff. And

20:57

then I'd go down to the cafe every morning, and you

20:59

know, when I wasn't working some other gig and write

21:02

screenplays. I had written like six features, and

21:04

you and I would give each other notes. I

21:07

remember the first incarnation of Garden

21:10

State when it was called Largest Arc,

21:12

and it was like sixty pages longer

21:14

than what I'd ended up becoming. But I remember

21:16

when you gave that to me after you had read a

21:18

couple of mine, and I was like, I was writing like big

21:21

budget romantic comedies or you know, things

21:24

that might maybe like a Will Ferrell or Ben Stiller.

21:26

At the time, I was like, that would be great if I could get

21:28

guys like that. And

21:31

you gave

21:35

me the Largest Arc to read and to

21:37

give you notes, and I just remember thinking,

21:40

this is like real, this is making me

21:42

feel something. I'm not doing

21:44

it right, and I

21:48

just sort of felt like it sort

21:50

of inspired me too. I

21:52

had never played music in my whole life. I had never grown

21:55

up playing music or taking any instrument

21:57

lessons or anything like that. And

22:00

so I was about to turn thirty years

22:02

old, and I was struggling as an artist,

22:04

and I just thought, maybe

22:07

I'm doing these things for the wrong reasons. I'm trying

22:09

to write these screenplays to sell them, rather than

22:12

like writing what I know, or writing

22:14

what I'm really passionate about, or making

22:17

myself vulnerable in some way with my writing.

22:19

And so I started playing guitar

22:22

and learning a few chords and learned a few

22:24

covers, and then I

22:27

knew enough chords on the guitar

22:29

after learning a couple of Dylan songs that

22:34

I was like, well, I'm a writer. Maybe I'll try

22:36

to write my own song. And I wrote

22:40

this song. Winter was the first song I wrote.

22:42

And I remember we were sitting in You and I were sitting

22:45

in my apartment in the East Village in New York,

22:47

and you saw a guitar in my living room, sitting

22:49

up against the wall, and you were like, I didn't know you

22:51

played guitar. And I was like, well, I don't really play.

22:53

I mean, I'm just kind of learning and learn a few chords

22:55

and a few cover songs. And

22:57

he said, we'll play me something like

23:00

oh. I could never do that at

23:02

the time. I couldn't even open my eyes when

23:05

I was playing the song. I was

23:07

so nervous to play in front of anybody

23:09

anyway. So I made you turn around. I don't

23:11

know if you remember it. I do remember that you

23:14

said, don't look at me. Don't you look at me?

23:17

Wow? And uh, And

23:19

I remember this vividly. I

23:23

played this song Winter, and you turned around

23:25

and your eyes were like a little watery and

23:28

it had affected you. And I was like, wow, that's

23:30

cool. That nothing I've written, you

23:33

know, in terms of screenplays or paintings I painted

23:35

or anything like that. Ever, I'd ever seen

23:37

that kind of response from someone other than

23:39

like my mom, you know, or dad or

23:42

you know. And uh so coming

23:44

from a dear friend, that was really cool.

23:46

And it's sort of I don't

23:49

know. I remember you said to me, I really

23:51

love that song. You should

23:53

probably maybe make a demo of it or

23:55

something, you know. Scrubs and Bills, Bill

23:57

and Christmas. They're always looking for music,

24:00

especially the music that they can afford, because

24:02

at the time it wasn't sinks.

24:06

It wasn't like it as now. You wouldn't turn

24:08

on the TV and hear a Stones song

24:11

or a Beatles song or something like that. They were way

24:13

too expensive. It was pre streaming,

24:15

so people were still making money in the music industry,

24:18

big legends. It was a good time for

24:21

at the time we were making Scrubs was an amazing

24:23

time for singer songwriters

24:26

like Josh because, like he

24:28

said, the big famous songs

24:30

they might splurge a couple of times, as Bill

24:33

did in this show and pay

24:35

for a big song. But in Josh's you

24:37

know, it was a great opening for a singer songwriter

24:39

because they were they were they were moving and beautiful,

24:42

but gettable and affordable. So essentially

24:44

it was the gold rush for people like me. So we

24:46

moved, all these musicians moved from

24:48

New York out to LA where the music supervisors

24:51

and the TV shows and the movies are made. And

24:54

I'd play in this little place called though. Oh sorry, but

24:56

I've skipped over this part

24:58

where the most important actually, because

25:00

it has to do with scrubs. So you said,

25:03

you know, maybe make a demo of that song. So I

25:05

went into carry brothers are their

25:07

best friend, into his bedroom.

25:10

He had a little pro tools rig on an old Mac,

25:13

and I just played it live and

25:16

then recorded a harmony over it. I

25:18

mean, as demo as you can get. It's no mixing,

25:20

no mastering, nothing like no, it's

25:23

one take and sent the demo

25:25

to you. You forwarded it onto Bill Lawrence

25:28

and like, I don't know,

25:30

like two three weeks later, I get a

25:32

call from Bill and he's like, Hey, do you mind if

25:34

I that song works perfectly in this episode?

25:37

Do you mind if we use it? And And I was like, are you kidding? This

25:40

is the first song he the first song you'd ever

25:42

written that was only recorded

25:44

just with a mic and a guitar on pro tools,

25:47

no nothing else except for one pro

25:50

tools back that it was like Carrie didn't have like

25:52

a real studio. This was like a this

25:54

is like a little rig we had. So the recording we hear

25:56

in the show is just you and Carry's

25:58

bedroom, Yeah, on a fifty eight

26:00

mic, Like I mean,

26:03

as basic as you can get,

26:06

well, and then I'll take it from there.

26:08

I just this this section. I remember I

26:10

always was playing music for Bill and he

26:13

flipped out over this. We I had

26:15

no idea this would become such a popular episode,

26:17

but it was obviously, you know, became

26:20

enormous. And then everyone

26:22

started searching for Josh's music. But the

26:24

thing is he didn't have any songs.

26:26

He only had one song, right

26:30

Carry. I remember Carry when it was airing.

26:33

Carry's like, you need a MySpace page, you know,

26:35

so if people search for you or whatever. So

26:38

I didn't. I was even more computer

26:41

or literate back then, although nothing's really changed,

26:43

and so Carry set up my MySpace

26:45

page. It was or a little website,

26:47

which is a picture of me and a link

26:50

where you could just listen to Winter the

26:52

demo. And it was

26:54

really cool because Bill told me afterwards,

26:56

and you told me afterwards that after the show aired,

27:00

Uh, well, you guys were on NBC then before

27:02

you had switched to ABC. So the

27:04

NBC website crashed after

27:07

the episode aired from so many people around

27:09

the world trying to find out where to get that song or

27:11

whose song that wasn't. Oh my

27:13

god, well there goes screenwriting. I'm moving

27:15

to LA and become a musician. Yeah. So

27:18

I got goose bumps when you told me that. Just now that

27:20

was That's such a great story. I mean, yeah,

27:23

and and and it's just like it's like when Susan

27:25

Boyle came out and sang lay miss. You

27:27

know, everyone was like, oh my god,

27:30

but I hear I didn't hear what you said. I didn't.

27:32

I didn't. I don't get this Susan Boyle. Susan

27:35

Boyle was that. I know, I know who she is.

27:37

I just don't understand how well. It was so

27:39

moving, and it was one of those moments where I'm

27:42

very moved, as I'm sure the world is.

27:44

Because these shows are so popular. When someone

27:46

comes out and it's Susan Boyle and you're not expecting

27:48

it, and they have a voice that makes you just

27:52

your jaw drop and you clutch your head like,

27:54

oh my god, where's this woman been. It's

27:56

so moving she can perform like that. And

27:58

I'm just saying it was it reminded

28:00

me of Josh being like, he's he's thirty years

28:03

old. He was he hasn't sold a screen

28:05

play. He was feeling, he was going

28:07

through a bad breakup, and all

28:09

of a sudden his entire life changed

28:12

because he wrote, has had

28:14

the courage to write his very first song, and

28:16

the talent well, and also happened

28:18

to be best friends with a guy who was the star of a TV show

28:20

looking for music. So I mean, it's a combination

28:22

of as most people will tell you in the entertainment

28:25

business is it's a combination of

28:27

of talent and work, but

28:29

also who you know, and of course

28:32

of course but but but but you

28:34

know it, all all those things line up. Of course, access

28:37

is key and and but

28:39

but still, Bill wouldn't have even listened

28:41

to four seconds of my

28:43

friend and shitty song, you know. Well,

28:46

I will also say that even after that episode

28:48

aired and we're talking about. It wasn't like this overnight

28:50

thing where all of a sudden I was like a rock star. It

28:52

was like, man, I remember,

28:54

I mean it

28:56

was brick by brick still,

28:59

I mean sixteen sixteen years later

29:01

and it's still like your music

29:03

industries gets hurt every year,

29:05

but you are able to make

29:08

a living as an artist, and so you are blessed

29:11

as we all are in that way. And in normal

29:13

times, Josh tours all over the world,

29:16

so you should always look where

29:18

what's your website? We'll get your plug in now, Josh,

29:20

what's their website to search for where you tour and

29:22

ship? Well? Uh, Joshua

29:25

raidin dot com and raiding'spelled

29:27

our A d I N. That's correct.

29:30

And then what do you do? Josh? You've been doing this. We're gonna talk

29:32

with the episode. Everyone stop freaking out. Josh,

29:35

what are you're doing? This interesting thing? Now? You're

29:37

doing sort of private home concerts. How

29:39

do people find out about that? On

29:42

my website? You can you can see it. It's just a link.

29:44

That's It's a company called Topeka Live

29:47

that started after when

29:49

this pandemic started. It's just some

29:51

guys I knew that started this

29:53

company to help musicians kind

29:55

of engage with their audiences all over the world

29:58

and play live through these Zoom shows.

30:01

So I've been doing that a lot this year. So

30:03

you can like have at you could have a Zoom part, like if

30:05

your friends all love Josh, you could

30:08

have like a Zoom party and Josh all

30:10

you hire Josh to comply. Or you can even just have

30:12

a salt song with your with your lover. It's

30:14

a bunch of different options, and it's

30:17

it's been very It's I might, I might

30:19

get paperweight for me and Donald Donald?

30:21

Do you want us? You want us put that with me? It's

30:24

pretty cool because the company a portion

30:26

of every zoom, whether it's

30:28

a serenade that's like one song and you get

30:30

like a chat fifteen minutes, or it's like a forty

30:33

five little minute mini concert you get like

30:35

six songs, you request the

30:37

songs whatever we chat. You can do

30:39

like six different windows of zooms

30:41

of people all over the world. If you have how much for you to show

30:43

your sea gutters? Is that? Is there an option

30:45

for that option

30:47

for that maybe just

30:50

for for for Zach and Donald.

30:52

Wait, hold up, do you have only fans Josh?

30:54

Do I have what only fans. I'm

30:57

not sure what that is. Okay, you

30:59

need to get you again with fans. You need to get

31:01

you only fans back right away. I was gonna say,

31:03

but what also

31:06

is cool about this Topeka Live is that a portion

31:08

of every thing that people purchase goes

31:10

to this really cool charity

31:13

that helps families get out of poverty. So

31:15

it's like for everybody, that's really

31:17

awesome. But you need to get an only fans. Yeah, we want everyone's

31:20

everyone wants to see. Only fans will allow

31:22

you to show nudes and let let all

31:24

your fans really enjoy all of you. If

31:27

you gotta show, if you gotta show Sea

31:29

gutters, if you gotta show Sea gutters, get you only

31:31

fans. All right, let's talk. Donald. Are

31:34

you ready with your summary? Josh,

31:37

We're gonna let you sit in because you're a

31:39

VIP guest as we discussed the episode.

31:41

Donald, as you know from being discussed the

31:43

episode, am I allowed to talk? But yeah,

31:46

of course we want your input. Okay,

31:50

Okay, wait, let me get my tire, I stop watch

31:52

recent and go Carlos

31:55

keeping her last name. Turk's mold

31:58

is alive. Doctor Clock's blames

32:00

Jay deep for the death of a patient, and

32:02

Elliott's Bunyan is nightmarish.

32:05

This episode is a lot, so

32:07

it's hard to summarize in thirty seconds. Brendan

32:10

Fraser and Tara Reid are back, and

32:12

all of our character storylines

32:14

blend together and intertwine. Other

32:16

than the obvious, one storyline

32:19

really stood out for me. Who are

32:21

we when we show ourselves to the world?

32:24

Are you your true self? Or do you

32:26

hide behind a persona? It's

32:28

always a pleasant surprise when you get a positive

32:31

reaction from a negative person. Kelso

32:34

storyline really softens you up

32:37

before the big reveal at the end of the show.

32:40

Yeah, that's true. Forty six seconds

32:42

for that one guy making the graph every day of

32:44

how long Donald is one

32:47

guy can lick my my my, But

32:50

but he's not. It's not a negative thing,

32:52

Donald, he just is. He's just doing an artful

32:55

graph of help. Yeah, but the way you're the way you're using

32:57

him to criticize

33:00

me makes me want

33:03

to tell him to eat a Yeah,

33:05

you know that's sometimes or a guy just making

33:07

a graph. All right, listen, it's

33:11

a legendary episode, guys. I

33:13

gotta say in in my eight

33:15

point five years on this show. This

33:17

is the one that people bring up most to me.

33:19

I think, right, Donald, would you say that I

33:22

get this? I get this one a lot in the musical episode,

33:24

It's like it's like the sixth sense? Is

33:27

that the right? Yeah? I think that Bill,

33:29

that Bill has said that was an inspiration. Obviously

33:32

it is the because once you

33:34

see it happen, you

33:36

get it automatically, like you see

33:38

when it all goes down. We are watching it now,

33:40

watching it right, watching it now. Therst

33:42

time you watch it, you don't necessarily

33:45

pick up on it. I have to admit, I don't think i'd never

33:47

gone back. Like Donald and I have said,

33:49

we never we never really We'd occasionally

33:51

watched these when I don't know about you, but I would

33:53

watch them maybe when they aired, and then I eventually stopped,

33:56

and I obviously saw cuts of the ones I directed. I would

33:58

probably seed them all up until nine,

34:00

but I never saw them again. And so

34:03

this one, now watching knowing what you know about

34:05

Ben is really interesting. It's really fun to watch. I reckon

34:07

if you're not watching these as we go back, if

34:10

this would be the one to do it, because once you know

34:12

the Ben reveal, it's fun to watch

34:14

it and knowing what you know it

34:16

really is because when

34:19

it happens, you automatically

34:22

know exactly what JD's talking about.

34:24

First of all, JD's kind of like a

34:27

real cavalier about time too.

34:31

But also I was gonna say that I

34:33

didn't. I had trouble with the fact

34:35

that jds cavalier. Through the rest

34:37

of the episode, he's kind of like joking around

34:40

and meanwhile his

34:42

heroes best friend

34:44

just died and he was at the helm. Yeah,

34:47

yeah, yeah, and it so that was

34:49

that was really interesting to me. I was like, Wow, that's a

34:52

I know they have to throw a misdirect into in

34:54

there somehow. I guess this is the way to do it,

34:57

because if you're a if JD's affected

34:59

by this uh screw

35:01

up, then we know that something

35:03

it's more than just you

35:05

know, we think we'll think, we'll know it's more

35:07

than just the old guy that died. It's it's

35:10

got to be something bigger. It's really masterfully

35:12

done. Directed by Chris Kotch and written by

35:14

Garret Donovan and Neil Goldman. It's

35:17

it's all the writing and direction are

35:20

pretty amazing. So let's go to the top. Yeah,

35:23

this aired, by the way, on February twenty fourth, two

35:25

thousand and four. Wow, just

35:27

if you want to sixteen think about

35:29

think about your life sixteen years ago, sixteen

35:31

years ago. What were you doing in February twenty

35:34

fourth, two thousand and four, listener,

35:37

The divorce was like in effect, like

35:39

I was in a we were we

35:41

were in courtroom times. I was this is like,

35:43

this is like we are doing it now

35:46

this I had moved out by this point. My

35:49

film came out. Garden State came out in

35:51

two thousand and four after

35:53

this, though, Yeah, it was I

35:55

think fall or or

35:58

must have been octobersh or

36:00

maybe the summer was this. This was our biggest

36:02

season two, right, I

36:04

think season two is the highest ranked.

36:07

I don't know, Joel, can you look that up for us?

36:09

What was the highest rank season? I believe I read on

36:12

on scrubs Wiki, by the way, Scrub's wiki.

36:14

You guys know, I always talk about it, but it's

36:16

it's got a lot for this episode. If you're into

36:18

that sort of thing, if you want to do a deep dive on interpretations

36:21

of all the every day of so many moments

36:24

that I don't even know if Bill thought of or Kneel

36:26

and Garrett. But there's like, why is that

36:28

poster behind Ben? It must mean that anyway,

36:32

Mickhead more important than anything. Mickhead has

36:34

his first line, Donald thanks nurses

36:36

Pinoza. Yeah, he doesn't say, that's it, and then

36:38

he walks away. That was his audition. That

36:41

was his audition pretty much. That was like, can you

36:43

deliver this line? Now? We know the characters

36:45

just come back from huff huffing

36:47

paint rehab. Yeah, from paint

36:51

which she'll never do again, which she'll never do

36:53

again. Well, he looks pretty healthy, you

36:55

know, he's just back from huffing paint

36:57

rehab. And then he and

37:00

and he's but he's he's pretty back to being a doctor's

37:02

He looks like he's all right. He says, thanks to Nurse Espinoza.

37:04

Pretty well. Does

37:07

does people know? Do people know that that's Mickhead

37:09

yet? Have people put two and two

37:11

together? Like we know because

37:14

we know Frank and we know that he played Mickhead,

37:16

right, But has the audience put two

37:18

and two together yet? Has the audience said, oh,

37:21

that's the Mickhead character. I don't know, we

37:23

talk about Mickhead. I don't know that they know that that's

37:25

Mickhead, that that's Mickhead. Because when

37:28

I realized that that was Mickhead, and I'm on the

37:30

freaking show. Right when I realized

37:32

that was with Mickhead was when he tried to kill

37:34

his wife's later

37:37

way later, adding

37:40

paint relapse. Something

37:42

must have happened, right, God, huffing

37:44

paint is a joke, bizarre addiction. How

37:48

did that happen? Who was like, I'm gonna spray all

37:50

this paint in this bag, all right,

37:52

We'll put it in this bag, and I'm gonna

37:54

try and breathe all

37:57

of the paint in the bag into my

37:59

motherfucking knows, Yeah, and I'm gonna try.

38:01

I'm gonna breathe and breathe and breathe

38:03

and breathe and breathe. I'm gonna

38:05

see what happens. But it's what motherfucker was

38:07

just sitting there like it's

38:12

one thing to get you high, but to be like, m let me

38:14

go get some fucking blue, right, I need

38:16

more paint? All

38:20

right? So Joel just told us in the chat that

38:22

season two is the highest rated, followed by season

38:24

three. So your wife's not

38:27

taking your name. Now, this happened in your real life

38:29

because your wife didn't take your name. Did

38:31

that upset you, Well, it

38:33

was kind of like a sabotage thing with me. So

38:36

with this, she's telling him way before

38:38

the wedding, so there's like a cushion he

38:41

could He has an opportunity to be like, well, I don't

38:43

want to do this, or he can say you

38:45

know what, he can get over it and I will. You

38:48

know, I'm gonna go turking. We'll go

38:50

through it with my wife.

38:53

We were at the courthouse signing

38:55

the license and I'm

38:57

like, Donald Faison and her name is gonna

39:00

be Casey, and she goes cob oh

39:02

shit. And I was like and I was like,

39:04

no, but this is

39:06

the marriage part. We're going Casey

39:09

Phazon, this is the courthouse, this is the time in

39:11

the place. And they're like, no, we're gonna she

39:13

was like, she was like cop. She's like,

39:15

but what I will do is I'll make

39:17

it so that if

39:20

I do decide to change it, we don't have to go through

39:22

all of this legal legal paperwork and stuff

39:24

like that. It's like once it's like a one sign

39:27

thing, and then she can change her name, like to

39:29

change your last name after the marriage thing.

39:31

It's like this whole big thing. But if you sign,

39:33

if you do a couple of things while you're there, you

39:36

can make it a little bit less

39:39

strenuous to change your last name. So

39:41

she dangled it. She dangled it in

39:43

front of me to keep me from saying, we'll fuck this shit.

39:45

I'm not want to get married in oh shit.

39:47

She's like, no, no no, no, no, no, wait, before we

39:49

before you get all upset in all puffy

39:52

chest, here is

39:54

what I'm going to do for you. There's

39:56

a possibility that i'll change it later. I'll

39:59

make it so that it's not a problem for me to do that.

40:01

Okay, Well, you know, h

40:05

I complicated,

40:08

right, No, I like that old tradition. I understand

40:10

why women are more of a more over it like why

40:12

you don't own me? Why am I taking your fucking name?

40:14

But I think that there's

40:18

I guess there's. It's one old school tradition I

40:20

really liked. But it's not it's

40:22

not up to the man anymore. It's

40:25

very calm. I have

40:27

quite a few friends, as you know, I spend a lot

40:29

of time in Sweden over the last twelve

40:32

thirteen years. And yeah, for sure, from

40:35

I know a lot of Swedish

40:37

guys. There are friends of mine that got married and

40:40

took their wives names. Wow, we heard them

40:42

correctly, don't yea. So

40:45

I'm just gonna start calling me Donald cop Donald

40:48

Cop. By the way, I'm gonna call you Donald

40:50

Cob from now on. Already

40:53

already got already got a white person's last name.

40:55

I don't need another white person. I

40:58

feel like another

41:00

white person's last name name.

41:04

Are you fucking kidding me? What about That's

41:07

that sounds African to you? What about Frankie

41:09

Fair? That just means we came from the same plantation,

41:11

Joshua Raydon Come on now, come

41:14

on now, I don't know. On now, they

41:17

don't notice y'all don't know Wait hard on now, how

41:19

come they ain't no black Washington. How come

41:21

they no white Washington's? How come they know

41:23

white Jefferson's. You know a white Jefferson?

41:26

You know a white person with the last name Jefferson. I don't know

41:28

a white person with the last name Washington, white person. I

41:30

know? Why is that? Why

41:33

is that? I

41:36

don't know? Pason could have been like

41:38

a made up I didn't I hear what

41:40

you're saying. I know, I know what you're saying about

41:42

slaves taking their master's names.

41:44

There's a phase on North Carolina.

41:46

Where do you think my ancestors

41:49

parked when they got when they got taken

41:51

from Africa. I didn't know that. I didn't know. There's

41:53

a raid in Poland, and I think that's where possibly

41:56

my name comes from. It is very possible

41:58

that you are that one of your Radinsky

42:02

or Radinovich, you know something. I always

42:04

imagine my name was longer like Braftberg

42:06

or Brafowitz or but

42:09

you could probably there probably is a

42:11

town or something like that. There is somewhere

42:13

where your name originated.

42:16

And it's not necessarily a person.

42:18

It's like the right, am I correct

42:20

me if I'm right? It sounds like about right. No, Like

42:22

all my grandparents have unfortunately passed

42:24

away, so I don't really have a

42:28

great resource to find out where my relatives

42:30

are from. But I think it's probably

42:33

Polish German, like I I imagine,

42:35

like you know, somebody like you know, I'm

42:38

making up a name, but somebody like Jason York

42:41

was from York in England

42:44

back in the day, and when having

42:46

to describe himself, I'm Jason from

42:49

York and then he became Jason York, you

42:51

know what I mean, Like, I imagine that's how the shit probably

42:53

happened. So all right, well we learned

42:55

that JD has a Piniona helmet. And not

42:57

only does he have a Pinona helmet, he had

43:00

his own SpongeBob SquarePants costume,

43:02

which he says was a gift from

43:05

me to me. Yes, yes,

43:08

can I Why does JD have? How

43:11

many times has JD been hitting the head? He

43:16

is a helmet that's specifically for pinata

43:20

parties, Yeah, because he that

43:22

one. There was that one time or several

43:24

or maybe twice and he's like, you

43:27

know what, I gotta get my bona helmet.

43:31

So so here's an interesting

43:33

Ben is back. He's not treating He's

43:36

not treating his cancer. As

43:39

we told you last time Brendan

43:43

was on. He was actually he is a

43:45

super big photographer

43:48

and had all sorts of really cool cameras and this

43:50

one for those camera geeks out there,

43:52

He's got a polaroid back on a on

43:54

a Holga, which is something I hadn't even ever

43:57

seen before. I had to google that it was a real thing.

43:59

But Holga

44:01

is a very cheap plastic camera that people

44:03

love because if you put film in it,

44:05

it takes really cool interesting

44:07

it has a plastic lens. It's really cheap. And

44:10

then he put a polaroid back on it, which

44:12

you alaber. Yeah,

44:15

I get the moments because people know I love cameras

44:17

and they're not that expensive. It's a great gift. Yeah,

44:19

I didn't have any money, and I know you're like cameras. Yeah,

44:22

I got like forty holgas. If you want one, I'll give you one back

44:24

for Hank. It's kidding. And

44:26

then so the polaroid back is is it?

44:28

I don't know. I've never seen it, and then I googled. Yeah, but they

44:30

don't even make that film anymore unfortunately

44:33

anywhere. That's just a moment for the camera geeks.

44:36

And anyway, my point is is that

44:38

later on Ben says

44:40

I'll take pictures until the day I die.

44:43

Wow, And then the second

44:46

he first appears and as a hallucination, he

44:48

no longer has the camera ever again at all at

44:50

all. Wow. I didn't

44:52

until you said that. I didn't even I didn't put

44:55

that together. I got

44:57

that from Scrubs wiki. I have to there's a few

45:00

things that were cool that I didn't even know,

45:02

and that that was one of them. This is some sixth cent

45:04

shit, I'm telling you, man. Yeah, well, the obvious thing is

45:06

that no one, no one sees Ben other

45:09

than Cox because once he's

45:11

dead, And

45:14

when you go back and watch, it's really clever. How how

45:16

Chris Cotch directed all of that. It's very

45:19

very well done. There's a whole interaction with Sarah where

45:21

he's pretending to be a public mass. Amazing physical

45:24

comedy by both him and Sarah. And

45:26

then when she walks away and he's still holding

45:28

onto the string, imaginary string

45:30

and he falls off of the counter amazing

45:33

physical comedy by Brendan Fraser. Yeah.

45:35

Brendan was so good in this episode, so

45:37

good, so good. He's just so freaking

45:39

charming. That guy he is, he

45:41

is and and and I'm gonna I'm

45:43

gonna be honest with you. The doctor

45:46

Kelso storyline is so important

45:48

for this episode. It's so important because

45:52

it's the hard, this hard character

45:55

who softens at the end, right, And

45:58

when he softens, that's

46:00

when we as an

46:02

audience also are

46:05

let in on the big reveal

46:07

that Ben's Ben's dead and he's been

46:09

dead for a while, and

46:11

that I personally feel

46:13

like I don't think that would be

46:16

as impactful if

46:18

you don't see a journey throughout

46:21

the show, because there is no journey throughout

46:23

the show in this other you know what I mean,

46:25

there's no journey. Ben's there in the beginning and

46:27

he's dead. There's no journey for Cox Cox.

46:29

There's nothing for Cox really to accept other

46:32

than the fact that his that his best friend's dead and everything.

46:34

There's no journey for him. There's no journey

46:36

for jd. There's no journey for anyway.

46:38

The only person that has a journey in this is

46:40

Kelso and his Kelso, and Kelso's

46:43

journey is so important that

46:45

it's it has to land at the end

46:48

for Ben's death to

46:51

be even

46:53

more impactful. You know what I mean? I

46:55

do is it the first time Kelso's shown any

46:57

heart at all? Because there's a moment in the closet

46:59

where Judy says it's been a hard week.

47:02

Now. The audience first time through assumes

47:04

that's solely because she's arguing with you about stuff.

47:08

They don't realize that she's also processing this death.

47:11

And then then we know Kelso also is processing

47:13

this friends with Ben, but you

47:15

know he shows he I mean to

47:18

me it was the first time he showed real humanity

47:20

at all. Right, And it's

47:22

so important for this, for

47:24

this moment to land at the end, because now

47:27

he softened everybody up, He's

47:29

given everybody the he's he's

47:31

made it, so everybody is a relaxed Oh, this

47:34

is a great ending for scrubs

47:37

where I feel fuzzy inside. And

47:39

so then when you get punched in the gut that

47:42

we're at the we're at a funeral at the end,

47:44

and Josh's song starts to play,

47:48

it's even more impactful. But it's

47:50

because of Ken's storyline. It's because

47:52

of Kelso's storyline and how

47:54

well he plays it at the

47:56

end, the end, the closet with Carla,

47:59

it's so so I wanted to mention that Randall

48:01

Winston's credit comes up at the exact

48:04

moment that Leonard

48:06

the security guard is mentioned. Wow,

48:10

so someone cleverly timed it. So just

48:12

as we're talking about Leonard the security guard and

48:14

his afro and his hook hand, Randall's

48:17

credit comes up. Because have you ever done

48:19

that? What timed it? So

48:21

when your name comes up a specific no

48:24

usually key or music

48:28

key or a you know whatever, a music

48:30

note or whatever, whatever well I'm going in style

48:33

was the first time a first feature I directed

48:35

that had the full hundred piece orchestra

48:37

score. So I think when my card

48:39

comes at the end, directed by I made

48:42

sure that there was a hundred

48:44

piece orchestra flourish because

48:48

like in some movies. In some movies, like

48:50

you'll see like in Eddie Murphy movies

48:52

are great for it, Like the beginning of The Golden Child,

48:54

there's all of this montage stuff and then when Eddie

48:56

Murphy shows up, you see Eddie Murphy,

48:58

like he turns to camera just like a sitcom

49:01

damn Near and he had the big smile on

49:03

his face, and it's like Eddie Murphy the Golden

49:05

Ship, you know what I mean. Like I wonder. I

49:07

wonder, like even even when directors

49:10

or well music people, when they

49:12

when their title card comes up, do

49:14

they put a little spruce in it? Maybe,

49:17

you know, maybe subliminate. The credits

49:19

are added so much later after you've locked

49:21

and and there's and there's a there's an

49:24

order that everyone has to go and just per contracts,

49:27

So it would be pretty tricky to do it

49:29

after the fact unless you planned on doing it.

49:31

I don't mean I don't mean to imply that they cut

49:33

this to Randall's picture. I

49:36

just mean it probably was close, and then

49:38

it was kind of like, you know, if we fledget a few seconds,

49:40

it'll because in the beginning of scrubs, for

49:42

those of you never I mean, I don't think we've ever discussed

49:45

this. They have to do all these opening credits

49:47

because you know, I mean, that's that's just part of

49:49

the rules, the contracts, the guild rules

49:52

and everything, and they

49:55

can be distracting. So there's times

49:57

when they'll pause them for a few seconds

49:59

if a joke is playing out to not upstage

50:01

the joke, and then they'll bring them back

50:03

in and it's just very subtle. The audience

50:05

wouldn't really notice it. So I'm just saying they

50:07

may have fudged it a little bit, so it timed out perfectly.

50:10

As he's mentioned, Carla

50:12

hates Turk's mole his tickle button.

50:15

Yeah, I imagine

50:17

that's a lot of people's first reaction.

50:19

I remember one time I was at my

50:22

best friend's house we were kids, and

50:25

her dad kept looking at me like really

50:27

weird, like staring really hard at my face,

50:31

and I kept looking back at him like,

50:33

hey, is everything okay? And he

50:36

kept staring so hard, and

50:39

finally he was like, I'm sorry, man, but what the

50:42

fuck is that on your face? Oh?

50:45

My god? And I was like what

50:48

He was like, what the fuck is that on

50:50

your face? You got some shit on your face? What

50:55

a dick? He thought was food or something. He

50:58

thought I had like doo doo oh

51:01

on my lip. It

51:03

feels a little bad. I want to hug a baby

51:05

dude, who live donald? I

51:08

laughed so hard at that moment.

51:10

Oh, really, you weren't upset. I would have been upset.

51:12

No, I

51:14

was old enough. I was like sixteen. It

51:16

was that embarrassed. Later it was like,

51:19

it was like, dude, what do you You've

51:21

known me my whole life and you don't

51:23

You've never noticed this before. He's known me before

51:25

puberty. He knew me before everything,

51:28

and he never noticed that I had a mole off.

51:30

It's embarrassing, though, though, don't you think, like, were

51:32

you always awkward around that guy? From then on, I would

51:34

feel so like cringey. No, not at

51:36

all. Man. When I arrived in Northwestern, I had just done Manhattan

51:39

Murder Mystery one scene. As

51:41

I think I mentioned before, I was Woody Allen.

51:44

Yeah, I was their son, and

51:47

this kid I was always a good friend of mine.

51:50

I really liked him. And we were walking

51:53

and he's and we start talking about manhatt murder

51:55

mystery, and he said, supposedly that kid

51:57

who plays the son goes to school here, and

52:01

I kind of chuckled, and he went, I didn't really

52:03

think he was that good though, And

52:05

it was clear he hadn't seen the movie. Dude. I

52:08

thought he was doing a bit, but he

52:10

wasn't, and it

52:12

told we weren't really able to ever recover. Yeah,

52:15

but it was. It was clearly, dude,

52:17

he hadn't seen the movie though. No, I think he'd seen

52:19

the movie. There's no way he'd seen the movie and

52:21

not recognized you, though I don't.

52:24

I just don't. Maybe I didn't have the same haircut

52:26

and he just didn't put two. Dude, I'm telling you. It was so

52:28

cringing and awkward that our friendship

52:30

died a quick death. Oh, dude, that's

52:32

nothing. I remember sitting in a movie theater freaking

52:35

behind two ladies watching Wait and

52:37

Exhale, and there throughout the movie talking about

52:40

how much they love the movie. Oh, this is such

52:42

a great movie. I'm quiet behind them,

52:44

just enjoying the ride with them and everything

52:46

like that, laughing when they're laughing, and then

52:48

I come on screen and my scene's

52:50

over and they go, yeah, I don't like him.

52:53

Though the movie's good, he

52:56

is not. And I remember being like, oh,

53:00

and that's when you just fade right back, and that's

53:02

like real time trolling, real time

53:04

trolling, right in my face. It happened in my Oh

53:06

my god. All right. On that note, we're gonna go to break

53:09

and we come back. We're gonna have a guest who, hopefully

53:11

we'll have questions for Josh Raiding, will

53:13

be right back after these fine ones,

53:21

and we're bae. Bring

53:24

him in, Donald, I mean, bring him in, Daniel,

53:26

no problem, Josh, you're excited. It's

53:28

your first guest caller on

53:32

the Scrubs Rewatch program. Lena

53:35

is joining Lena. Lena. Ladies

53:38

and gentlemen, give it up for Lena. Lena,

53:42

Lena, Lena. Everybody

53:46

rad that's the Joshua Radon Lena.

53:50

Hi, Hi, Lena, Welcome to the program.

53:52

That's Donald, Phazon, Joel, Monique,

53:55

Joshua, Raydon, Daniel's and

53:57

a broken camera. Lena. If you're ever in the market

53:59

for a webcam. Do not buy the Imaging Edge

54:02

webcam. It doesn't work. Apparently

54:04

the Imaging Edge webcam is

54:06

really expensive. Yeah, but it doesn't

54:09

Ever if I would, if I had the time, I would go

54:11

on Amazon and give it one star. Well,

54:13

my webcam was about forty nine dollars

54:16

and it's doing great. Well, maybe I do send good.

54:19

Yeah, you look great. Do

54:22

you notice how Lena we're able to see you.

54:25

Yeah, Daniel's webcam didn't come with that

54:27

feature. Oh

54:30

and hear that, Daniel. Yeah,

54:33

you guys need merch webcams. Yeah,

54:36

you have every merch thing that is known to

54:38

man. We're gonna sell fake

54:42

Doctor's Real Friends webcams, but they're not coming

54:44

with them, not gonna We're not going

54:46

to source them from Imaging EdgeCAM

54:48

Edge web I I'm still trying to get my hands

54:50

on the onesie, so I have to wait on the webcam when

54:54

restock to Joel, do you know I'm

54:56

working on that. But I'll give you guys an update.

54:59

No idea we had. We we kind

55:01

of thought it would be funny. We thought we

55:03

ordered six hundred because we were like, there's

55:06

a lot of people listening to this all over the world. Maybe

55:08

maybe we'll sell six hundred eventually, and

55:11

and that won't be too many to order. And they

55:13

were gone in twenty four hours, all

55:15

of them. Yes, I can't even get one for my

55:17

for my for my family, my

55:19

wife. The seame of it is, we have

55:21

a PJA day coming up at work? And where

55:25

do you work? Where do you work? I'm a

55:27

nurse. Oh shit, it

55:29

got real. It just got

55:32

interesting. Where where you

55:34

working at? Yeah? So I'm working

55:37

for the largest healthcare

55:40

organization in western Pennsylvania, So anyone

55:42

from Pittsburgh will know exactly who I'm talking

55:45

about. That's where I work.

55:47

Oh, so you're going to be one of the first to get the vaccine.

55:50

So I'm in home care. So

55:52

the vaccine will go to the acute care staff

55:54

first in the hospital. That started yesterday

55:57

and actually my organization was the first

56:00

to give it, and then home

56:02

care will be the second round. Okay,

56:04

so February, I

56:07

hope, sooner than that. They're sitting by the end of January.

56:10

Okay. Yeah, when

56:12

you stay at home care, do you mean you care for people

56:14

in their homes? Correct, So we take

56:16

care of people who either came out

56:18

of the hospital. So are COVID patients who come

56:20

out of the hospital. Really they're really deconditioned,

56:23

so they really take more therapy than nurses.

56:26

But what's also happening is

56:28

that we are so understaffed

56:30

in the hospitals, understaffed. In home care, we're

56:32

running out of beds, so unfortunately,

56:35

they're having to send patients home from the hospital

56:37

faster than they should. So in

56:40

home care, we're now taking care of people with central

56:42

lines, chess tubes, chemo,

56:45

and so we've become an extension of acute

56:48

care. And so we're taking care of people trying to keep

56:50

them out of the hospital so that hospital beds are

56:52

open for the patients who really

56:54

need it. So you're providing care at

56:56

how in the home? Yeah,

56:58

how do you? How do you staff

57:02

a team

57:04

large enough to take care of

57:06

all of the people that you're sourcing now

57:09

out of the hospital because

57:13

they're running out, Well, they have to

57:16

stretch it some way. How are you stretching it right

57:18

now? So it's funny that you ask that, Donald,

57:20

And if I really figure out the

57:23

right way to do it, I'm going to write a book and I'm

57:26

going to be a trillionaire. And then

57:28

I won't have to be a nurse anymore. But here's

57:30

what we're doing. So I'm a supervisor. I actually

57:33

am in the office money through Friday, making

57:35

sure that the nurses get the ppe they need,

57:37

that all of the patients who need to be covered are covered.

57:39

If we have to prioritize. I'm the one who's

57:41

picking who gets seen and who doesn't get

57:44

seen. So I'm also coordinating

57:46

with the hospitals to say, no, we're not taking anymore.

57:49

You need to find another home care. It's not a safe

57:51

discharge. You need to keep them. So

57:54

then on the weekends, I'm going out and seeing patients.

57:56

So we're all just doing the best that we can. And it's

57:58

scary because our pacient list is growing

58:01

and our staff list is shrinking. Yeah,

58:04

I was seeing something today in LA that

58:06

there there there are people that are waiting

58:08

in ambulances because there's just there's

58:10

no beds and LA

58:14

is running out of ICU beds, so they had people.

58:16

There was something I read, I think it was on Deadline

58:19

about how they're literally just the ambulances

58:21

are pulling up and just holding people because they just

58:23

think there's a backlog. What

58:25

are you guys doing there. So

58:28

I'm in Pittsburgh and we locked

58:30

down Saturday morning. We went back on lockdown,

58:33

and they were saying, don't have

58:35

a stroke or a heart attack in Pittsburgh because

58:38

there's no ICU beds left, and that's

58:40

a really scary thought. So in home care,

58:42

what we are doing to help is if

58:45

we can keep them out of the hospital, we are so if that

58:47

means that we get telehealth, or we get a social worker,

58:49

or we get family involved, we're trying

58:52

to critically think and keep them out of the hospital. But

58:54

at the same time, I went about

58:56

three weeks ago, patient

58:58

was discharged from the hospittle Friday

59:00

night. I went in Saturday morning, and I sent

59:02

them right back to the hospital. So it's just

59:05

knowing what can I handle in

59:07

the home, what do I need to send back to the hospital.

59:09

It's getting the doctors on the phone and trying to

59:12

think and talk and figure out what we can

59:14

do. Because in home care, you're you're in the

59:16

living room. There's no X rays, there's

59:18

no blood work, there's no doctor

59:20

that I can grab and say, hey, what do you think? It's just

59:22

a nurse standing in a living room. So we're

59:25

doing the best we can with the resources we have.

59:27

Our health system is huge. They have their

59:29

own insurance, they have their own long term care

59:31

facilities. So we're trying to think out, can we

59:34

just get this patient on telehealth and open them,

59:36

open up a nurse for another visit. Is this

59:38

somebody who just needs to go back to the hospital as much

59:40

as I hate to do that, So we're just

59:42

doing the best we can. We're critically thinking trying

59:45

to get the patients who can stay out of the hospital

59:47

what they need, and then get the patients who

59:50

need to be in the hospital into the hospital. Thank

59:52

you so much for what you're doing. And

59:55

if you could, let's say

59:57

you're in a position like you are right now, where

59:59

you you speak to thousands and thousands

1:00:01

and thousands of people across the world, what

1:00:06

would you tell them in

1:00:08

terms of from

1:00:10

your point of view, what's

1:00:12

the best thing they could be doing to keep themselves healthy.

1:00:17

Oh my gosh, I might actually start crying right now

1:00:19

because an opportunity

1:00:21

that every nurse wishes they could have right now.

1:00:24

Wear your masks, even if you think

1:00:26

it's stupid and it doesn't work, What

1:00:29

if there's a one percent chance

1:00:32

that you could protect your parents or

1:00:34

your children or the neighbor. If there's

1:00:36

a one percent chance that we are all right and

1:00:38

you should wear your mask, then why risk it?

1:00:40

So wear the mask. Only go

1:00:42

out when you have to. If you do have to go out, be

1:00:45

really smart about it, Like I said, use that critical

1:00:47

thinking and say, okay, what can I outsource

1:00:49

what? What? Maybe I can ask my neighbors

1:00:52

what they need and just one person can make

1:00:54

the trip the healthiest of us. I

1:00:57

understand it's Christmas. I understand it, Tonic,

1:01:00

I understand it's eed. I understand that

1:01:02

all of these beautiful holidays

1:01:04

are happening and that you want to be with your families. But this

1:01:07

is It's not a normal year. And

1:01:09

the best gift that you can give to the

1:01:11

world right now, including your own family,

1:01:14

is to stay home if you can.

1:01:17

And if you can't be smart

1:01:20

about it, be really smart and

1:01:22

really think it through. And if you don't believe it,

1:01:25

but there's a one percent chance we're

1:01:27

all right, then why risk it?

1:01:29

Yeah? Beautifully said? Beautifully

1:01:32

said, and right from from someone on

1:01:34

the front lines. I mean, you guys all hear

1:01:36

me and Donald talk about it, because we lost a friend

1:01:38

and Josh lost a friend as well. But

1:01:41

but I think people are just

1:01:43

used to hearing it now and they roll their eyes. So to hear

1:01:46

it from from a nurse who is on the

1:01:48

front lines and seeing it day in and day

1:01:50

out, I really appreciate that. All

1:01:53

right, any questions, I feel silly to segue

1:01:55

to this because you have a question. We anything

1:01:58

scrubs related anything, Josh. Yeah,

1:02:01

So if I have the opportunity for too, I'm

1:02:03

gonna ask a scrubs question and then I'm gonna ask a non

1:02:05

scrubs questions. Okay, Oh,

1:02:08

that's okay, Josh. Josh is just happy to be

1:02:10

here. He's happy to be eavesdropping.

1:02:13

Wait, if you know any nice women I found

1:02:15

like a Jewish mother, if you know any nice women

1:02:18

in the LA area. He's wonderful,

1:02:21

he paints, he sings,

1:02:25

Pittsburg. I'm available. Oh

1:02:27

Josh, you got a beautiful nurse right

1:02:29

here for you. But I don't think I was crazy,

1:02:32

though, Yeah, I was a crazy

1:02:34

And also I just don't think Pittsburgh is going to be where

1:02:36

Josh plants his roots. But listen, and

1:02:38

I understand, but

1:02:41

I don't. I'd be lucky to have you.

1:02:44

Thank you. He's also a charmer Lena

1:02:46

and nurses. Being with

1:02:48

the nurse is one of those things that you hope you never

1:02:50

need, but then if you suddenly do, you're

1:02:52

so glad they're there. I would I

1:02:54

think that's great to be with a nurse because you can because

1:02:57

I'm always like, what's this thing? What is

1:02:59

this? Is this? Am I gonna die from this? Josh

1:03:02

and I am the same doctor and we am and

1:03:04

he's retiring actually, But the thing I loved

1:03:06

about him is like, if I howked up a lugie, I could

1:03:08

send him a text of it and I'd be like joining

1:03:10

antibiotics and he'd be like, yes, and

1:03:13

that's gross. Yep. I

1:03:15

get pictures you can't imagine, you

1:03:17

know, some people worry about like, oh, there's going to

1:03:19

be a dick pick. I can't like about to say,

1:03:22

gettures pops

1:03:24

up on my phone? What I get texted? Oh

1:03:26

my god, we

1:03:29

were talking about Joel getting lots of

1:03:31

inappropriate pictures. All right, what's your question? Go ahead? Oh

1:03:34

my god? Are you talking about online dating Joel?

1:03:37

Yeah, I've gotten Yeah,

1:03:44

I would like to discuss this. Okay, let's

1:03:46

be let's be respectful and tactful. She's a

1:03:49

she's a classy woman. Absolutely,

1:03:51

which apple you want? Is it the

1:03:53

tender that you're getting? All these in I

1:03:56

tried to do it right, and I went like from

1:03:58

match dot com, I pay the money

1:04:00

and everything, and you

1:04:03

you upload pictures, you describe yourself,

1:04:05

and you put this nice little narrative like, listen,

1:04:07

I'm very busy. If you need a lot

1:04:09

of attention, don't bother to talk to me.

1:04:12

This is what I'm looking for. And then

1:04:14

just the DM start

1:04:17

and there will be things out

1:04:19

of like I had one that just said, I

1:04:21

bet you taste great scary

1:04:25

screechy violins on that cow.

1:04:29

I don't know if I could. I don't know if I could do that. I

1:04:31

don't know if I met I think, don't you when you hear

1:04:33

tales about how gross fucking

1:04:35

men are, don't you? Aren't you? Just like I'm

1:04:39

just always so, I mean, I know about this, but we

1:04:41

men don't get sent I don't get

1:04:43

I don't I don't want and and and please

1:04:45

don't start, Please don't don't want to hear these But

1:04:47

when I hear these tales, I don't. I just can't

1:04:50

believe how fucking gross men

1:04:52

back dick picks aren't even the

1:04:54

most shocking. That's not the

1:04:56

it's the stuff they say to you.

1:05:00

I don't get any of that stuff. Like I go

1:05:02

through my dms like looking for the

1:05:04

ship, like let you see. No,

1:05:07

I don't want to dick pick. I want to see what my

1:05:09

fans are saying to me. So sometimes i'll scroll through

1:05:11

it and it'll be some of the stuff I'm

1:05:13

like, oh god, that's heart

1:05:16

wrenching. Oh my god, I shouldn't have opened

1:05:18

this. Why did I open this? And then some

1:05:20

of it, it's like some of it's like yo,

1:05:22

man, fuck you man, Yo, your

1:05:24

your your podcast is shit. Man. All y'all do

1:05:26

is talk about shit on the right and

1:05:28

on you for you like you shit on the left. Y'all

1:05:31

know you know you need to be newscast

1:05:34

train right.

1:05:36

I'll get I get a lot of that with the

1:05:38

red siren emoji. I'll

1:05:40

tell you to make a nurse blush. You

1:05:43

have to you gotta really, you gotta really put

1:05:45

it out there. And some of the messages I've gotten have

1:05:47

made me blush. I have yet to get one

1:05:49

of those messages. I'm very happy that I've yet

1:05:51

to get one of those messages. I'm just having yet to get

1:05:53

one of those messages. The real question

1:05:56

is, well, not there's many questions I have about

1:05:58

this, but when you're asking how

1:06:00

crazy men are, which is totally true, it's

1:06:03

it's insane. But I

1:06:05

have female friends that have told me things

1:06:07

like that before, have stories like that, and all

1:06:10

these inappropriate messages, and you're like,

1:06:12

my first thought was, okay, so you're a

1:06:14

guy who goes on a match

1:06:17

dot com and sends these inappropriate pictures

1:06:19

or messages wherever, Like, is there

1:06:22

are you sending those to like one hundred women hoping

1:06:24

it one time it works? There's it

1:06:27

has to be this. It has to be that. It's

1:06:30

like fishing. They're they're hoping that they can't one.

1:06:32

But I'm saying, like, if it's let's

1:06:35

say it's one out of five hundred, woman actually

1:06:37

responds like are you won? You won? We

1:06:40

spoke about this earlier, that one women woman

1:06:42

is ruining for every other woman every

1:06:47

especially if it happens like in the first week

1:06:49

or the first you know a couple of times

1:06:51

you try it where you're like, here's a dick pick and

1:06:54

you get the response like, wow,

1:06:57

I can't I know if that would have happened

1:06:59

to any they'd be like, I'm doing

1:07:01

this for the rest of the night. You

1:07:03

watched that that last Amy Schumer

1:07:06

stand up special. But she had a great She

1:07:09

had great advice for women who get

1:07:11

dick pics. And she said, if you get a dick pic,

1:07:14

send back a picture of a bigger

1:07:16

dick. When

1:07:20

he when he responds, what's

1:07:22

this, you just go, oh, sorry, I just

1:07:24

thought we were sending pictures of cool dicks.

1:07:28

I don't think. I don't think. When

1:07:31

you get a text, you have time

1:07:34

to think of the response. You don't have to be really

1:07:36

clever, really fast. So

1:07:38

it gives you the opportunity with to come up

1:07:40

with something great. So I had a guy, and feel

1:07:42

free to censor this if you'd like to. But

1:07:45

I don't say his name. We don't want a sense or anything.

1:07:47

I don't I don't remember his name, one of

1:07:49

a thousand who. I opened

1:07:51

it up and it said when's the last time you got

1:07:53

ben over and made come hard?

1:07:56

Oh? And it was all misspelled, which is super

1:07:58

hot. And so I respond

1:08:00

to ask your brother. I think he wrote down the date.

1:08:03

Wow, Okay, it

1:08:05

gives you time, like I got it. I to

1:08:07

have some coffee, think about it. How do I

1:08:10

want to respond to that? All right? As fun

1:08:12

as that is, Lena, I don't know that you shouldn't. I

1:08:14

mean, if I wouldn't engage, not

1:08:16

to be paternal. I don't think you should engage

1:08:19

because they can be scared. Okay, Oh yeah,

1:08:21

I was about to say, you gotta I'm gonna say, Lena,

1:08:23

you're such a You're a nurse, You're a very

1:08:26

beautiful woman. I feel like, Joel, we

1:08:28

could if you want, we could put your well, I don't

1:08:30

know if that's going to encourage it. I'm trying to if you're in the Pittsburgh

1:08:33

area, how can what do we do?

1:08:35

We can put your Instagram on our show notes or something

1:08:37

you can that's gonna

1:08:42

I'm trying to help everybody calm down, isn't We're

1:08:44

not We're not even that fixed your life yet. We haven't

1:08:46

even gotten The show is gonna be so fucking

1:08:48

long. But I just wanted to say, Lena,

1:08:51

I don't want to encourage that behavior, but gosh, I wish

1:08:54

I could set you up with someone. Oh no, that's fine.

1:08:56

I'm so busy right now. Okay, you're

1:08:58

busy business. What's your question? Can handling

1:09:00

COVID man have

1:09:03

some romance. Everyone's got time

1:09:05

for the a little bit of romance. All right,

1:09:07

go ahead, Lena, Sorry, what's your question? So

1:09:10

my question is for Zack and Donald.

1:09:13

So let's say that somebody says,

1:09:15

I want to make a movie about the

1:09:18

making of Scrubs, how it came

1:09:20

to fruition, behind the scenes. What

1:09:22

young actors now are playing

1:09:25

YouTube in your mid twenties. Oh

1:09:27

wow, good question, great question.

1:09:31

Well, I would play myself, obviously, I

1:09:33

mean black,

1:09:35

don't crack, you know. Yeah, so I

1:09:38

think Ben Platt would play me.

1:09:40

Oh that's

1:09:42

a good answer because I like so it would

1:09:45

be me and Ben Platt pretty much. Yea and

1:09:47

more musical episodes two. Ben Platt has

1:09:49

a beautiful voice, so I would sound even better when

1:09:51

I sang and

1:09:54

and I think he does. I

1:09:57

saw him and Jeremon Hanson and he and

1:09:59

obviously he's playing a a

1:10:01

very different character. But but there were a lot of JDI

1:10:03

isms that I liked and saw

1:10:06

and respected. I think he's very talented.

1:10:10

Donald's come out a kid, the

1:10:12

kid from Stranger Things. Man, that's my dude.

1:10:14

Okay, Yeah, although he's a teenager,

1:10:17

you need to be he's getting he's getting he's

1:10:19

almost eighteen. Man, boy got

1:10:21

mustache and everything. Now he's growing up. Okay,

1:10:24

he's getting taught. There you go. There is your scrubs

1:10:26

behind the scenes movie cast right there. All

1:10:29

right, what's your next question? You said you had another one.

1:10:32

Yeah, so I'm actually working on my doctorate

1:10:34

and nursing. Sorry, Joel, this is not

1:10:36

the question I told you, but I promise it's pc. Okay,

1:10:39

you were on your doctor and nursing. That's so awesome. Do

1:10:41

not apologize to me. And you don't have to

1:10:43

love. You don't have to censor yourself. You know we

1:10:45

liked anything inappropriate. I'm

1:10:49

my doctorate project is

1:10:51

on decreasing the stress in our

1:10:53

frontline managers, so the managers

1:10:55

who are between the patient care staff and

1:10:58

the executive managements. So these

1:11:00

are our frontline managers. So

1:11:03

my question for all of you, especially

1:11:06

right now, is what are you

1:11:08

guys doing to decrease your

1:11:10

stress? Drinking lots

1:11:12

of pino noir, going

1:11:16

outside. I like going. I broke my toe.

1:11:18

I was if you listen to podcast,

1:11:20

you know I was cycling a lot. The peloton was

1:11:22

a great source of leaving stress

1:11:25

for me. I broke my toe. So I'm a little

1:11:27

on time out with exercise cardio.

1:11:29

But I've been going to the dog park. We have a big

1:11:32

dog park near us, and I love I get

1:11:34

endorphins when I go and watch my dogs

1:11:36

print around the dog park, and

1:11:41

I don't know those are and those

1:11:43

are my first ones that come to mind. What about you,

1:11:45

Josh, We know that you're you're hiking.

1:11:48

Hiking. Yeah, I like walking around

1:11:50

in nature as much as I can and

1:11:53

reading and you know, just just

1:11:57

getting through it, basically getting through it. Lost

1:12:00

Donald, What happened to Donald? It's

1:12:02

like your question dropped out, Daniel

1:12:05

will deal with that. Joel, Joel, what is your answer

1:12:08

to the question? It was like

1:12:11

doing Christmas things. It's like,

1:12:13

which sounds crazy, but like you have

1:12:15

to go all over the place, and like

1:12:18

it was like researching with a friend and then

1:12:20

like calling shops to see how we could do it

1:12:22

safely and is

1:12:24

like in the spirit of giving back, And it

1:12:26

was like it was a great way to like both

1:12:28

like physically get myself out of the house because I

1:12:32

you know, I'm an anxious person. I have ah

1:12:34

D and it like going outside

1:12:36

a pre pandemic. Well, like I have

1:12:39

social anxiety post

1:12:42

pandemic, being inside so much now it's like just

1:12:44

going to my friend's house is like four or five times

1:12:47

much higher. I'm so anxious. So

1:12:50

having like a goal something to do, a

1:12:52

partner that I know has been safe throughout

1:12:54

this whole thing to go do it with it's

1:12:56

been like the greatest dress reliever. And

1:12:58

then now I get to send people packages

1:13:01

and they were going to open them on Zoom, and there's a

1:13:03

whole like giving back like aspect

1:13:05

of it that I'm just really excited to participate

1:13:07

in. So Christmas season for the wind,

1:13:10

I agree that, you know, there

1:13:12

is I am having a lot of fun buying presents for people

1:13:15

and and and then we took a lot. We

1:13:17

had a lot of joy in decorating the house

1:13:19

and getting I've never done a real full

1:13:21

out Christmas because I'm Jewish,

1:13:24

or at least I'm not. I'm secular, but you know, we

1:13:26

just never did it. And yeah, congrats on your Christmas

1:13:28

tree. Yeah we went all out. We went

1:13:31

all out, and uh, it's it's

1:13:33

fun. I'm having that is, you know, decorating

1:13:35

the house and making it all super cozy

1:13:37

has been has been a source of joy

1:13:40

how's it going with Donald there, Daniel? He

1:13:43

has not responded, well, Daniel, what do

1:13:45

you do to distress? What do I

1:13:47

do to destress? You know, I am

1:13:50

a big fan of electronic music. I

1:13:52

really like biking, riding my bicycle,

1:13:55

and so there are times

1:13:57

usually after work, usually laid

1:14:00

at night, I would say around ten pm. I have a very

1:14:02

flat neighborhood, and

1:14:04

so it's also very quiet at night,

1:14:06

not a lot of cars. So I'll throw it in

1:14:08

my helmet, throw on some headphones, turn the light

1:14:10

onto my bike, and I will just

1:14:12

do laps around my neighborhood, blasting

1:14:15

drum and bass in my ears and just

1:14:18

going as hard

1:14:20

as possible and letting the music

1:14:22

just like plow through me like

1:14:24

I'm in an action film. I always feel like I'm being

1:14:26

chased by like the bad guys in the Matrix. Whenever

1:14:28

I'm like biking around my neighborhood just listening

1:14:31

to super super fast electronic music.

1:14:33

I come home. I'm exhausted, I've sweat

1:14:35

dripping all over me, and I just feel, you

1:14:37

know, alive and released

1:14:40

and just like loose and it's it

1:14:42

feels great. It feels great. I

1:14:44

would think that that would I mean, that sounds awesome,

1:14:46

but I would think that would amp you all up. You'd come home

1:14:48

like all like, there's

1:14:51

definitely a degree. It's also

1:14:53

I really try to do that when I am

1:14:55

really trying to get rid of stress. So I'm

1:14:58

already kind of tensed up and ready to go and

1:15:01

working it out. Yes, gets my heart rate

1:15:03

going, but also it just helps me release that stress.

1:15:05

So while there's still like a worked up heart rate and

1:15:07

stuff, there's a much more turned down

1:15:10

mental state that's like, Okay,

1:15:12

we are released from this, we are done,

1:15:14

and now we can just move on

1:15:16

with the night and go take a hot shower and

1:15:19

you know, have a glass of something and go to bed.

1:15:22

Yeah, how about you, Lena, what do you do?

1:15:25

You? Cut? You? I mean you you're writing

1:15:27

this dissertation, right, is

1:15:29

that what it is? So

1:15:32

when you're a nurse, you're it's called

1:15:34

a scholarly project and it actually

1:15:37

lasts the entire five semesters

1:15:40

of doctor at school. So I've just completed

1:15:43

my first semester. So all I've had

1:15:45

to do at this point is just come up with the idea

1:15:48

and turn that in and say

1:15:51

this is the background of why this is a

1:15:53

problem in nursing. I haven't got to the actual

1:15:55

like getting it approved or putting

1:15:57

together the actual study design,

1:16:00

and I think and then actually having the

1:16:02

experiment I think will be the really stressful part.

1:16:04

But so for now, the

1:16:07

stressful part is So I'm a I'm a mom, I'm

1:16:10

a full time doctorate student, and i'm a single

1:16:12

mom of I'm sorry, I'm a nurse.

1:16:14

I'm a doctorate student, and i'm a single mom

1:16:16

of two active teenage girls.

1:16:19

A lot on your plate. So I'm

1:16:21

busy, and so you

1:16:24

know, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry to interrupt you, Daniel,

1:16:26

he's waiting to be let back in Donald. There

1:16:28

we go, Oh, there he is, right,

1:16:38

Stop talking about him, Stop talking about him. Hearing you

1:16:42

what happened? Not

1:16:45

a good signal in that closet. Yeah,

1:16:48

I can't tell you what I

1:16:50

do to relieve stress. That's

1:16:55

all that's

1:17:01

my business. She's a nurse, and it's

1:17:03

very healthy, right,

1:17:06

but it's normal. It's normal, right, it's

1:17:09

normal. Right, it's normal though, right, it

1:17:11

is normal, Lena is

1:17:13

not It is probably abnormal

1:17:16

for a forty six year old man to have the

1:17:18

libido of a sixteen year old, right,

1:17:21

No, no, yeah, she's shaking

1:17:23

her head. You're normal, that's

1:17:25

a normal. Yeah,

1:17:28

that's what I

1:17:31

told you. I told you and my wife

1:17:33

that shit. But nobody wanted to listen to me, Lena.

1:17:36

Nobody wanted to listen to me. Everybody

1:17:38

is like, no, there's something wrong with you. There's

1:17:40

something wrong with you, and there's something wrong with

1:17:43

your insides, and you need to see therapy.

1:17:45

You need to see therapy. You need to go talk

1:17:47

to somebody about your freaking

1:17:50

libido. Well, maybe Lena can.

1:17:53

Maybe Lena can give you a note for Casey

1:17:55

that says this is perfect prescription

1:18:00

to Yeah, all

1:18:03

right, let me go get a hold on No

1:18:05

no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no no no, come

1:18:07

on. All right, let's talk about fix

1:18:09

your life. I don't know if we can fix your life, but if

1:18:11

there's any way we can, you missed donald. She's

1:18:13

got two teenage daughters in addition and

1:18:16

as a single mom in addition to being a

1:18:18

nurse. So she's got a lot of doctor student.

1:18:21

Yeah, kin, a doctor, you got a lot

1:18:23

on your plate there, right, How can we fix your So

1:18:29

this is I just want

1:18:31

your advice. This is what I

1:18:33

really need from you guys, because you are artists

1:18:36

and you understand what this is like. Being

1:18:39

a nurse was never my dream. I actually

1:18:41

went to college from musical theater and then

1:18:44

got pregnant, had to get a real job

1:18:46

with health insurance, went to nursing

1:18:49

school, probably because of scrubs.

1:18:51

I'm not gonna lie the times

1:18:53

up and uh now

1:18:56

I'm I'm a mom and I'm a nurse. And so

1:19:00

I did a lot of community theater, and then

1:19:02

that wasn't an option anymore because I was too

1:19:04

busy. So what I did was

1:19:06

I sat down and wrote a book. I

1:19:09

wrote a fiction. I sort of just wrote

1:19:11

my own fantasy world that I

1:19:13

got to escape into since I couldn't be an actress

1:19:15

anymore. And I felt

1:19:18

really good about it. I was really passionate about it. I was

1:19:20

very excited. And then eighteen

1:19:23

rejections later from

1:19:26

agents, I had

1:19:28

somebody who said, I'll take a look at it,

1:19:30

but you have to cut out roughly forty

1:19:32

thousand words. So

1:19:35

I said, I don't. I don't want to do that.

1:19:37

I have all these people who have read

1:19:39

it, they love it. I've read it, I've edited

1:19:41

it. I don't want to take any more out of it. I'm

1:19:43

going to self publish, right So

1:19:46

I got the website, I got

1:19:48

the TikTok, I got seventy

1:19:51

five hundred followers on TikTok,

1:19:53

I put a little teaser about the book. Everyone

1:19:55

seemed excited, and

1:19:58

then I really started looking at self published,

1:20:00

and I thought, if I really want

1:20:02

to do this, I need to get a kickstarter, but I

1:20:05

don't have the time. I

1:20:07

don't We're gonna be your grit kickstarter

1:20:09

because we're gonna look your website,

1:20:12

what's the name of the book,

1:20:14

and how do people find out about the book? So

1:20:18

I guess my question was do I go for it

1:20:20

or do I shelve it? But it sounds like you're saying just

1:20:22

go for it. This is a place where dreams

1:20:25

come truly. We shit,

1:20:27

we tip pig, we pick up, we go

1:20:30

to the store, we go to Staples, we

1:20:32

get white boards, we get

1:20:34

erasable markers, okay, and

1:20:37

we take those markers to set

1:20:39

board and and we write

1:20:42

down our dreams

1:20:44

and goals. Why do you have like a why

1:20:46

do you sound like a preachro something? I like it

1:20:48

because I'm trying to get Lena there.

1:20:51

She needs to get up off her

1:20:53

ass, go to the white bull

1:20:55

and pick up erase

1:20:57

a pin to the b and

1:21:00

right down to wants to self

1:21:03

publish our own book. Write it down,

1:21:06

all right, reverend, Reverend, Reverend,

1:21:08

there's so many babies on latching right now, so many

1:21:10

babies aren't eating right now. But I'm super

1:21:12

excited. All right, Well, Donald's right. We

1:21:15

we really believe that you can manifest. We're

1:21:17

big believers in manifesting from the white board.

1:21:19

It sounds like it's already on your white board and

1:21:21

you're about to get the biggest plug you you

1:21:23

could ever get. Which is so

1:21:25

funny you say that, Zack, because the way that I

1:21:27

got on this podcast is that I'm a

1:21:29

witch and I wrote a spell

1:21:32

and I did a spell to get on this podcast.

1:21:38

That a big That was a big right angle

1:21:40

turn. By the way, much

1:21:42

like much like this episode, there's a reveal at

1:21:44

the end of the Caller, She's a witch.

1:21:47

I didn't want to ruin Joel's big,

1:21:50

big twist, but yeah, I'm a witch, and

1:21:52

that's how I got myself on here. And so just like

1:21:54

you said, Zach, I wanted to manifest this happening.

1:21:57

Are you serious? Are you really a witch? Because some people really

1:21:59

are and really, which so that's my alt right

1:22:02

behind me with your whiteboard

1:22:04

right above it. Okay, so

1:22:07

I'm not I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to. I'm

1:22:09

not trying to make jokes or anything like. No, don't make jokes

1:22:11

because I'm not religion. How do you how do you

1:22:13

practice and science

1:22:15

at the same time. How are you able to do?

1:22:18

Donald? That's such a good question,

1:22:20

very good question. Donal. Weed must

1:22:22

be wearing off. It's such a good

1:22:24

question. So no, the weed is kicking

1:22:26

it. You thought that you thought I took a break because

1:22:29

the computer went down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I need

1:22:31

to go smoke some reeds. So yeah, something

1:22:33

tells me you dropped out of the zoom it right right

1:22:35

around the time when you needed a fucking it. I dropped

1:22:37

out right around four twenty. That's dropped

1:22:40

out. Yeah all right, So Lena, we can't

1:22:42

go down a giant witchcraft world. But Donald,

1:22:44

that's a great question. How do you reconcile spells

1:22:47

and science? So

1:22:49

the human body is made up of energy and

1:22:51

electricity, so is everything around us.

1:22:54

And if you go all the way back to

1:22:56

the pagan belief, back back, back back

1:22:59

back, their belief was very

1:23:01

much about manipulating the energy that is around

1:23:03

us, that all the energy is. We're all connected,

1:23:06

all of us, and they

1:23:08

believed in honoring that. So if

1:23:10

you very quickly, to make this super

1:23:13

super quick, if you look at the rivers

1:23:15

of chi that are drawn

1:23:17

out by the Chinese back

1:23:20

back back back, it actually lines up

1:23:23

with the nervous system. So

1:23:25

way way back before we even had science,

1:23:27

people knew that there was something greater

1:23:30

than all of us, that we were all connected, that

1:23:32

by caring for the earth, we were caring for ourselves.

1:23:34

For caring for each other, we're caring for ourselves.

1:23:37

And so I think there

1:23:39

is a room for Western medicine

1:23:41

and Eastern medicine. If you

1:23:44

want to manifest something in your life, ZAC you

1:23:46

actually save us a lot on the podcast. You

1:23:49

have more magical thinking than you probably realize.

1:23:52

But if you want to manifest things, you're manipulating

1:23:54

the energy around you and you're creating it to happen.

1:23:56

However, if somebody in front of you goes

1:23:59

into respiratory, just dress and drops. You

1:24:01

don't want to burn incense. You want to

1:24:03

care for them. And that's that we were lucky

1:24:06

that we were able to understand

1:24:08

Western medicine but still hold on the Eastern

1:24:10

medicine. So I do believe that there

1:24:13

is a place for both things.

1:24:15

But I do think that when it comes to things

1:24:17

like creating what you want in

1:24:19

life, that there is a way to honor that and

1:24:21

honor the things around you. And I think that my

1:24:23

job is a nurse honors all

1:24:26

of the people out in this world. It cares

1:24:28

for life, and because of that, I

1:24:30

get a lot of abundance back in return.

1:24:32

I'm very lucky in that sense. But

1:24:35

I do think that there's room for everything. I

1:24:37

think that all of us can be in harmony, and

1:24:39

that includes Western and Eastern, so that

1:24:41

includes magical thinking as well as

1:24:43

science. If that makes

1:24:45

sense. Yeah, I mean sorry,

1:24:48

it was really quick. It wasn't It

1:24:51

makes a lot of sense. It's like,

1:24:54

you know, it's believing in

1:24:56

religion and also believing that science

1:24:59

it can exist with religion as well, and I

1:25:01

totally get it, absolutely absolutely

1:25:03

so. If you're sitting at the bedside of somebody who's

1:25:06

dying, of course you're going to pray for them, but

1:25:08

you're also going to want the doctor to do everything they

1:25:10

can to try and keep that person alive. And

1:25:12

that's where I really try to honor both things.

1:25:16

Well, we hear that, We hear you, and we respect

1:25:18

you, and we respect all religions and

1:25:21

belief systems. So wait, so tell

1:25:24

everyone how to do you do you

1:25:26

got a cat? I just want to know. Do you have a cat? I

1:25:28

do? Is it a black cat? No?

1:25:34

You are right? And its name is Sebastian?

1:25:38

All right? And the interest of and the interest of

1:25:40

episode line? Alright, how

1:25:42

do we how do we are out of time of Lena? But

1:25:44

tell us how to find your book? Tell everyone how to find your books.

1:25:46

Yeah, so if you want to find

1:25:48

my TikTok, I'm all nurse all

1:25:51

the time. All my information is on there.

1:25:53

And my website is uh Lena

1:25:56

l E n A NASSERI and a z

1:25:59

as in zebra a r ei

1:26:01

dot com and you can find all the information on

1:26:03

there. And I guess I'm gonna make a kickstarter, so

1:26:05

watch for it. What's the title of the book.

1:26:07

But what's the title of the bight Shift. It's about

1:26:09

a night shift nurse who becomes a vampire

1:26:13

night shift. That's well, you

1:26:15

know, you know how we do because we got a little story that

1:26:17

we like to talk about about a doctor who becomes

1:26:19

a vampire. And his name is

1:26:21

doctor Acula. Nice

1:26:24

Donald, you like it. There's a lot of sex in the book. It's

1:26:26

very sexy. There's a lot of what sex,

1:26:28

sex sex Donald

1:26:31

could use it. Wait, hold on, I'm sorry, Lena,

1:26:34

I think you have me confused for someone else. Oh

1:26:37

sorry, apologize I I

1:26:40

I can't

1:26:42

even continue this with a straight face. All

1:26:44

right, I'm very interesting. You've been an awesome

1:26:47

guest. Thank you for being a frontline

1:26:49

worker and for all that you're doing, and and

1:26:52

please stay safe, and thank you for coming

1:26:54

on. You're an awesome guest. Thank you, thank you, very

1:26:57

thank you to

1:27:00

be Well, let's

1:27:06

take a break. We'll be right back after these fine

1:27:08

words. There

1:27:15

were so many chapters to that call. That

1:27:17

was a big that was that was truly. I

1:27:20

mean, she's Joel. Did you know she

1:27:22

was going to drop the witch bomb at the end? Hell?

1:27:24

Yeah, Why do you think I picked her? I was, sister,

1:27:27

let's do it? You were? You were? You were probably

1:27:30

like, what's she gonna start talking about the witches? Which

1:27:32

I was worried. I wasn't gonna get in there. Well,

1:27:35

she had a lot to say, and she's very interesting. But

1:27:37

I thought that Donald thought

1:27:40

that she was kidding. And that's why I was like,

1:27:42

oh wait, I didn't think she's kidding because she's like she

1:27:44

has all her witch gear behind her. I

1:27:46

didn't think she was of

1:27:49

like frontline work and nursing

1:27:51

and dating. And then all of a sudden she's

1:27:53

so also, yeah, I'm a witch. And so

1:27:56

your book is about the book is a

1:27:58

sexy book about a nurse vampire.

1:28:01

I mean that woman in America.

1:28:03

I'll doorly Lena, thank you. Yeah,

1:28:06

yeah, you should go on that

1:28:08

pitch that pitch thing. What's the pitch thing on

1:28:10

Twitter? Joel pitch

1:28:12

thing on Twitter? Do you know what I'm talking about? I thought you

1:28:14

might know about it. It's like when writers pitch their ideas

1:28:17

and they they like. It's

1:28:19

like they

1:28:22

they put out like a byeline or not a

1:28:24

byline. They put out like a one sentence thing about

1:28:26

what the plot of their thing is, and then they hope

1:28:28

that publishers or agents respond

1:28:31

to them. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes, they do. It's

1:28:33

called a Twitter pitch. It's sometimes thrown by different

1:28:36

publishing companies. Is according to Google, sometimes

1:28:39

just sort of ramped up where people are like, hey, just go

1:28:41

for it. I guess agents do it sometimes too,

1:28:43

but it's sort of it's called like pitch mod or

1:28:45

something. I don't know. There's like there's days where

1:28:47

it's like, hey, everybody gets pitch mod and I'll be

1:28:49

pitching my new book and anyway,

1:28:52

I digress. So, Donald,

1:28:55

what's up? Brother? We should we

1:28:58

have a surprise for everybody, and that is that

1:29:00

when we're done with our show, Joshua

1:29:02

Rayden is gonna sing and perform

1:29:05

Winter Live for all of you, which

1:29:08

is a pretty nice treat, Donald, don't you think you

1:29:10

know? I

1:29:13

was hoping for a concert the whole

1:29:16

episode. I thought that's what we were going to do. I didn't realize

1:29:18

we were gonna, you know, talk about the show. And I

1:29:21

think Lena was going to be that interesting, to be honest

1:29:23

with you, But you know, okay, she

1:29:25

she spoke my language, obviously. Yeah.

1:29:29

I think it's

1:29:31

only right that if we have josh

1:29:34

on the show, of course, that

1:29:36

we ask him. He could say, he could decline,

1:29:38

he could say no, I wouldn't have had him on. I just want

1:29:41

to go through a couple more things I love in the show. Before Josh

1:29:43

sings gay Chicken along. Gay

1:29:45

Chicken was funny, you and I used to actually play

1:29:47

gay Chicken. Yeah. I uh, that's

1:29:50

a that's a tough one to win, you know what I mean?

1:29:52

That always wins that one. Well, I'm

1:29:54

willing, I'm willing to kiss you, because you're willing

1:29:56

to make out. If you're willing to make out, if you're

1:29:58

willing to make out, then you're always the winner. I

1:30:01

wanted to say. Leonard

1:30:03

playing playing gin and

1:30:05

smoking a cigarette in the hospital using

1:30:07

his claw hand I thought was funny.

1:30:10

I think it's hilarious that JD slept

1:30:12

with both Sullivan sisters. Right,

1:30:15

I've had sex with both Sullivan

1:30:17

sisters, I laughed. I mean shower

1:30:19

shorts. Did you think that shower shorts was in

1:30:21

this episode? I didn't. I didn't know it

1:30:23

was in there. And also this went

1:30:26

on into a different

1:30:28

television show, didn't It didn't. It's become your

1:30:31

Arrested Development character. Didn't your Arrested

1:30:33

No no no, Because in Arrested Development

1:30:35

they have a running seam where never nude

1:30:38

David Cross is a never nude. He's never naked.

1:30:40

He wears Jeane shorts underneath all his clothes.

1:30:42

Josh Raiden loves that show, and

1:30:44

I was lucky enough to be on that show as a

1:30:46

fellow never nude. So

1:30:48

yes, I guess that's that's wise that

1:30:50

you're saying there is overlap and that both JD

1:30:53

and my character and Arrested Development do

1:30:55

not shower fully nude. We're

1:30:57

a fucking never nude. That

1:31:00

it was hilarious. Portion DROSSI goes,

1:31:02

you're a fucking never nude. Yeah,

1:31:05

it was so funny. I got to be a never

1:31:07

nude and shower

1:31:09

shorts for the man who has nothing to hide but

1:31:12

still wants to That

1:31:18

is one of the funniest jokes. And

1:31:20

it's got a wallet. It's got a shower short

1:31:22

that had me rolling the shower shorts

1:31:24

with the with the wallet that zips back

1:31:27

and when he pulls it and it zips

1:31:29

back, and where does it smack him? That's what I want to know. As

1:31:34

no in the ass, I do a little jump. Okay,

1:31:40

you and

1:31:42

your male talking. Your male talking is

1:31:45

hilarious. Dude, your mole, your mold, what

1:31:47

does it say? It says

1:31:51

that you know that's my voice. And I actually did

1:31:53

the puppet for that too, for the mole. As we operated

1:31:56

the puppet, I operated the puppet

1:31:58

for the mold. The mold was my bow and

1:32:01

my hand in the mold.

1:32:03

Well, the mall was very funny. I don't know why

1:32:05

the mall wasn't a recurring character that

1:32:07

I would have thought the moll would have come back, but I guess

1:32:10

not. I don't know why Bill

1:32:12

didn't ever bring the mall back, but that was great.

1:32:15

Elliot's Bunyan at the end, when

1:32:17

the doctor sees and

1:32:19

the nurse passes out, you

1:32:25

know whenever these whenever a nurse is

1:32:27

like a not a normal one of the regular

1:32:29

like background nurses, and you just know

1:32:31

she's going to be a stunt woman because I was like, oh, I don't

1:32:33

recognize that woman. And then all of a sudden she took a big

1:32:35

fall when she fainted it and I was like, oh, she must

1:32:38

have been a stunt woman. That was funny. That

1:32:40

was very funny. She must have been a stunt woman because it was

1:32:42

a perfect fall too. Yeah,

1:32:44

And then the word was piance. We should

1:32:46

talk about this the whole show before

1:32:49

Ted the lawyer

1:32:52

has lost one of his band

1:32:54

members, is threatening

1:32:56

to quit, and the show opens up even

1:32:58

with it, You'll always be a worthless

1:33:00

peon. You're nothing more than

1:33:03

a worthless peon and

1:33:05

then he turns to you know, after Ted

1:33:07

hangs up, the phony turns to Kelso. When he goes, doctor

1:33:10

Kelso, my band, the Worthless

1:33:12

Peons has just lost a member. I

1:33:17

think this must be the moment that we learned the name

1:33:19

of the band the word yea, it is because

1:33:22

they are all worthless peons. I mean that's

1:33:24

how they all work at the hospital and feel

1:33:26

like their their peons to everybody. Yeah.

1:33:29

And then also Carla

1:33:31

talking about how she's a

1:33:34

candy bar. The Espinoza

1:33:36

is a candy bar, and then

1:33:39

Ted asks her does

1:33:41

the Espinoza have nugata in

1:33:43

the middle. Yeah, that was funny. I thought I

1:33:46

thought he was doing that like as a sexual thing,

1:33:48

like trying to be like trying

1:33:50

to flirt. No, he just likes No,

1:33:53

I think he's trying to flirt. I think it's a flirty flirt.

1:33:55

Let's let's get to the cemetery where it all goes

1:33:57

down. Eighteen forty nine is

1:34:00

when we see the first shot of the cemetery.

1:34:03

And you know, this has been like the most common

1:34:05

meme that's ever been sent to me. Though, where do

1:34:07

you think we are? A moment that happens at nineteen

1:34:10

thirty five. I

1:34:12

got goose bumps. I have to say when when

1:34:14

it happened, even though I knew it was coming. It's

1:34:17

just a really cool sixth

1:34:19

cents reveal. Yeah,

1:34:21

and well acted by John C. McGinley. Also

1:34:24

yes, and the whole episode

1:34:26

well yeah, Zach, absolutely

1:34:30

absolutely, you know what, I know you need

1:34:32

it so absolutely I don't need it. It's

1:34:34

not about me. Johnny's incredible in this episode, and

1:34:36

especially at the end when he's crying, it's very moving.

1:34:39

He's very good at it. And and watching

1:34:42

them all sit Jordan, Danny

1:34:45

and Johnny's sitting watching

1:34:48

the funeral

1:34:51

as he's you know, lowered into the

1:34:53

ground and everything like that, I

1:34:56

was wondering, who's going to be the one to know, because

1:34:59

you forget these things, Who's the one Like

1:35:01

I was wondering, does Danny lean on Jordan?

1:35:03

Is Jordan's gonna lean on Cox's Cox? You

1:35:06

know? How does this? How does

1:35:08

this end? Because there needs to be a moment

1:35:10

that you know, this

1:35:12

family can you know, grieve together

1:35:15

because we're not really you don't really

1:35:17

see it, you just see you know. And this is a very

1:35:19

strong and stone Wall fan

1:35:21

like, these guys are very mean to each other,

1:35:23

and I was like, where's the break? Who's

1:35:26

gonna break? And when Jordan grabs Cox,

1:35:29

that's the first one. But then when JD puts his

1:35:31

hand on Cox and he's willing

1:35:34

to accept, he's willing, and

1:35:36

he's willing to receive the

1:35:39

love from well, he's gonna receive it from Jordan,

1:35:41

but to receive it from his from his colleague,

1:35:44

from his work buddy. Very

1:35:46

powerful moment. Yeah, it's very moving. And Jordan's

1:35:49

character isn't someone who's going to emote, and sob

1:35:52

and Johnny sees you think isn't either, but

1:35:55

he just finally lets go and

1:35:58

she looks over at him, and it's very moving.

1:36:00

It's beautifully done. I'm so we're very

1:36:03

blessed and lucky to have the

1:36:05

Josh here who's going to sing live for you and

1:36:08

Josh, are you ready? Is everything tuned? Is

1:36:10

the capo set? I

1:36:12

know all the lingo Well, I just want to stay one

1:36:15

last thing before we get into the raiding situation.

1:36:17

Josh Man, I didn't get to finish this earlier.

1:36:19

I remember watching you in Hotel

1:36:22

Cafe me many

1:36:25

more, Mega, Kelly

1:36:27

and Zach Braft the only people in

1:36:30

the place us and the bartender

1:36:33

and you and the sound guy.

1:36:35

That's it flash cut

1:36:37

to you at the Troopadore the first time you

1:36:39

played at the Trooperdoor Fire.

1:36:42

One of the best moments of my life to this

1:36:45

day. To be able to say, to be

1:36:47

able to say, I knew you

1:36:50

when this was freaking a

1:36:52

whimsical idea and

1:36:55

now look at you now. It's it's always

1:36:57

it always makes me smile

1:37:00

to walk into an auditorium

1:37:02

and hear you perform, and then not only that, to

1:37:04

watch the people listening to you, like

1:37:07

I've seen a thugged out dude, like

1:37:09

somebody that looks like the dude that was on the skateboard

1:37:12

with the with the with the ocean

1:37:14

spray, seen somebody like that at

1:37:16

your concert doing exactly what he's

1:37:19

doing to the Stevie Nick song, singing

1:37:21

and along to the Fleetwood Max song. I've

1:37:23

seen that, I've seen I've seen you touch people

1:37:25

like that, and it's just so powerful to see. So without

1:37:28

any further doo, y'all, I've said enough. Joshua.

1:37:30

All right, here's josh Raiden with with

1:37:32

Winter, the first song he ever wrote.

1:37:47

I should know who

1:37:50

I am. I know I

1:37:54

mark the record stand

1:37:57

somehow cannot

1:38:00

under your

1:38:04

name is the splenter inside

1:38:06

me while I'm wait.

1:38:15

I remember the sound of

1:38:20

your November Downtown,

1:38:26

and I remember the truth I

1:38:31

worn December will you. But

1:38:35

I don't have to make

1:38:37

this mistake, and

1:38:41

I don't have to stay

1:38:43

this way. If

1:38:45

only I've made the

1:38:49

walk, that's all and

1:38:52

cleared by now. Your

1:38:55

voice, it's all

1:38:57

I hear somehow calling

1:39:02

out winter. Your

1:39:05

voice is the splenter inside

1:39:08

me while I waited,

1:39:17

and I remember the sound

1:39:22

if your November Downtown.

1:39:28

I remember the truth. I

1:39:33

want December with you. But

1:39:36

I don't have to make

1:39:39

this mistake, and

1:39:42

I don't have to stay

1:39:44

this way. If

1:39:47

only I wad I

1:39:52

could have lost myself in

1:39:55

rough blue waters

1:39:59

in your eyes, and

1:40:01

I miss you still. I

1:40:08

remember the sound off

1:40:12

your November Downtown.

1:40:18

I remember the truth. I

1:40:23

warm December with you. But

1:40:26

I don't have to

1:40:28

make this mistake, and

1:40:32

I don't have to stay

1:40:35

this way. If

1:40:38

only I wait, m

1:40:48

YEA wow

1:40:57

you want with That's

1:41:01

so beautiful, Josh, Thank

1:41:03

you. When I hear that song, I go, I can't believe

1:41:06

I know the guy who who wrote and sings

1:41:08

that. It's just such beautiful poetry.

1:41:11

Thank you so much. It's very kind and

1:41:14

thank you for starting my

1:41:17

career. Well I I

1:41:19

if it wasn't me, it would have been somebody else.

1:41:22

Well, you never know.

1:41:25

Josh. Remind people how if they want

1:41:28

to do this this thing, they can

1:41:30

book you uh to play

1:41:32

to my website Joshua Rayden dot

1:41:34

com R A D I N and

1:41:36

you'll see it right there. It's very simple. I change the

1:41:38

website so it's very simple. It's it's top Joshua

1:41:41

raidin dot Topeka Live. You'll see the link. You'll see

1:41:43

all the options and which the

1:41:45

money goes to. But you can have Josh

1:41:47

play for your loved ones, maybe even maybe

1:41:50

even you know this

1:41:52

as a holiday gift for someone and

1:41:55

back when the world reopens and concerts everything

1:41:57

again, make sure to go see Josh play

1:41:59

live. Travels all over the world.

1:42:02

It's very popular in Europe, right

1:42:05

Josh. Josh is like Bruce Springsteen

1:42:07

and Sweden not very popular of

1:42:10

Sweden. No, I have a small

1:42:12

cult following coup of people who know

1:42:14

my songs from medical shows. But that's very

1:42:17

no. And and Josh, that's that's

1:42:19

that you're you're exactly You're You're you're what are

1:42:21

you being here just being dismissive of yourself. You're

1:42:23

being self deprecating, Josh

1:42:26

Donald, you're still here with us? Well

1:42:29

I'm here though. Can we can we just have Donald

1:42:31

admit to everyone that I did not mess

1:42:33

up my own song? Okay? Fine? Is

1:42:35

that? Is that what you're waiting for? He

1:42:37

came on the podcast? So look all right, So here's

1:42:40

the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Remind

1:42:42

you were you did mind

1:42:44

listeners? What was said? I said that he

1:42:46

blew. He messed up his own song. It

1:42:48

didn't mess up his own song. You

1:42:51

messed it up by not singing

1:42:53

the whole song straight through,

1:42:55

like you forgot some words here. I

1:42:57

didn't forget anyone. This is the thing. But

1:43:00

I will say this the stairs. Well

1:43:02

say that has happened. And I know

1:43:06

you've been talking all day. Moment,

1:43:09

Okay, go ahead, let him have his moment. I'm running

1:43:11

the stairs. When the podcast started listening

1:43:13

to this thing, and all of a sudden, you start talking

1:43:15

about me and how you asked me to play your your

1:43:18

in Casey's first dance at your wedding, and you asked for one

1:43:20

of my songs, and it was you

1:43:22

asked for the song Paperweight, which at the time,

1:43:26

I went for about eight years or

1:43:28

something without playing that song live. It was too

1:43:30

painful. I wrote it with my ex and when we split up,

1:43:32

I just decided I didn't want to play anymore. Now I play it,

1:43:34

it's been whatever, it's been time you would has

1:43:36

played it together yet? No, No, we

1:43:38

haven't seen. We haven't hung out in years

1:43:40

and years. I would love to see that. Oh we should get

1:43:42

that on the show. That would be dope,

1:43:44

but I would for

1:43:46

sure either way. What I'm saying is, you

1:43:48

asked me to play a song of mine called they Bring Me

1:43:50

to You, and so I did. But the live

1:43:52

version of that song is a different version than

1:43:54

the recording. Oh, I know, because you have a female

1:43:57

singing with you and it's just so much different

1:43:59

production. But when you solo acoustic

1:44:01

life, So you have to remember, I'm running

1:44:04

the stairs listening to your podcast and I hear

1:44:06

you do your Oprah voice of like that

1:44:08

he fucked up his own song,

1:44:11

and I'm like, I spit out my water.

1:44:13

I started laughing. So and

1:44:16

then of course I texted you right afterwards.

1:44:18

I'm like, what are you talking about it? Right

1:44:20

away you were like, first of all, I did not fuck up. I

1:44:22

just want the audience to know that. Donald asked Josh

1:44:24

to sing him and his wife's first song

1:44:26

in his wedding and then made

1:44:29

fun of him on front of thousands of people

1:44:31

because he didn't like the version. Josh sang,

1:44:33

it's me, it's

1:44:35

me, all right, we've gone two hours,

1:44:38

don't know. We don't entertain you. I know, right,

1:44:40

I just but ye that being

1:44:42

said, But I do love and

1:44:45

I love you too, that being said

1:44:47

though. Man. At my wedding, when

1:44:49

we were sitting up in Zach's

1:44:51

house getting ready myself,

1:44:54

Josh and Zach, Josh

1:44:57

sits down and he starts drumming on the guitar and

1:45:00

uh just start singing. And

1:45:03

he writes a song at my wedding.

1:45:06

And I then hear the song maybe

1:45:08

like a year later on a plane ride

1:45:10

to New York, and I remember hitting him

1:45:12

up and being like, dude, that song you wrote at my wedding

1:45:16

is playing on the plane and it's the one

1:45:19

where it's like it's a wedding, it's a freaking

1:45:21

love song, man. And I can't remember

1:45:22

I remember, but it's like

1:45:24

if you go something like, I'll find

1:45:29

you something. Come on I

1:45:31