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315: My Tormented Mentor with John C. McGinley

Released Tuesday, 22nd December 2020
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315: My Tormented Mentor with John C. McGinley

315: My Tormented Mentor with John C. McGinley

Tuesday, 22nd December 2020
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0:00

That y'all watched the Mandalorian. No, we didn't.

0:02

You can't talk about it because we didn't watch it,

0:04

So don't start going off on the Mandalorian. My

0:09

wait, you have a rule about cursing with things

0:11

related to Star Wars. Well, we're not. Joel

0:14

is not here, so we're not necessarily recording you. I'm recording.

0:16

Why aren't you recording? Well, I am

0:18

recording. But if you want, Daniel can

0:20

bleep out the curse. Leave

0:23

the curse, Daniel. But because it's in the same sentence

0:25

as Star Wars, bleep it for him? Got

0:28

it? Is that? Okay? Donald? No

0:31

cut that out. No,

0:36

Yeah, listen, man, I'm telling you you might not want

0:38

to talk about it. So your your Star Wars girlfriend

0:40

gets on the line, because you're gonna probably

0:43

be all excited. I know

0:45

that there's big spoilers though, so don't spoil

0:47

anything. Yeah, they just sent me.

0:49

Lucas Film finally sent me my holiday

0:51

card. I'm excited about that. He wishing

0:55

you a bountiful new year full of laughter,

0:57

new friends, and unexpected adventures.

1:00

Happiest of holidays to you and your family.

1:02

PSL the podcast, Holy

1:04

shit, really they

1:07

love the podcast. There you go,

1:10

probably because you talk about it's like an ad

1:12

for Star Wars every day. Happy Holidays

1:14

from Lucas Film. They are loving the podcast.

1:17

I love it. Yeah, right

1:21

now, now this part is going in the show's

1:24

going in the show. I love it.

1:26

I love Donald. I know that whatever happened

1:28

was so impactful that

1:30

I read someone said, don't even look at Twitter

1:32

trends or yo, don't look don't

1:35

look at anything, or it will ruin everything.

1:39

It will ruin everything here.

1:42

And I cried like a baby. Hold

1:44

on now, hold on you gets hold you well? You cried

1:47

like a baby. Joel. Did you cry like a baby?

1:49

Did you cry like a baby, Joel, Joel,

1:51

did you cry like a baby? Did you cry like a

1:53

baby this morning? Did you cry like a baby?

1:56

Oh my god. Yeah. They

1:58

haven't watched it yet. They haven't watch it yet.

2:01

What else did you have to do? But when

2:03

his greatness on your screen, tell

2:07

them, Joel, tell them Joel. No,

2:09

don't tell us anything, Joel. A lot of people

2:12

won't have seen it. And I

2:15

I mean, I'm sure by the time this airs, if you're

2:17

a fan of the Mandalorian, you'll have watched it. But we

2:19

I haven't watched it yet. We'll watch it tonight. I'm

2:21

just mad that I gotta wait till December of next

2:23

year to see a new episode again. December

2:28

twenty one. Oh my god.

2:30

But it's gonna be so good. But there's

2:32

so much in between, right, there's gonna be so much in between,

2:34

right, Oh, there's so much in between. It's like the

2:36

the I guess the new movie. The movie that's

2:38

coming out is Rogue Squadron Hetty

2:41

Jenkins. Laddy Jenkins is directing it. I'm

2:43

really excited about that. There's I

2:45

guess a new Boba Fette show coming. There's

2:48

a Whet Died Huh

2:55

what No, the actor who played

2:57

Boba Fett in the movie, right, yeah,

3:00

passed away. The original actor who

3:02

played sorry,

3:05

yeah, the actor in

3:07

the original movies right and the Empire

3:10

Strikes Back, and and uh. And he was in

3:12

Return of the Jedi, and he was also in uh

3:14

The Phantom Menace as one of the pilots

3:18

for Queen Amidala, which was no

3:20

way. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's one of the shit.

3:23

Yeah. I just wanted to say

3:25

some good news. We just got Daniel. Can

3:27

you have like a low rumbling

3:29

drum roll like they what are they? What are those large

3:32

orchestral drums? Yeah?

3:34

Yeah, can you have a timpanie um

3:36

thing here? That's like at the end of Star

3:39

Wars Bom bom bom bom bomb into

3:41

two thousand and one, bom bom bom bomb.

3:47

I want to remember bom right,

3:50

but I don't want bum bum bum. I want bubb bubb.

3:53

I got you. You got that going, all right? You?

3:56

Fake Doctor's Real Friends is

3:58

the number one new

4:00

comedy podcast downloaded

4:03

in twenty It's

4:05

the most downloaded new

4:07

comedy podcast of twenty twenty.

4:11

Check that. Thank you, I heart,

4:13

thank you all of our fans. Thank you fans

4:16

for listening. I really did not know that. Thank

4:18

you. Thank you to our very loyal,

4:20

amazing listeners. That is a big milestone

4:23

for us. We had no idea this would happen, that it

4:25

would happen like this. We just wanted to get on the

4:28

on the internet and talk about, you know, our

4:31

friendship and making scrubs.

4:33

We had no idea that there were that many of you out there who

4:35

would would be interested in this, and so thank

4:38

you so much for Thank you, thank and continue,

4:41

please continue. We will continue

4:43

if you continue. Yes, and Joel

4:46

and Daniel. Thank you both for making

4:48

the dream come true. Is our pleasure.

4:51

It's a lot of fun. All right, Let's let the legendary

4:53

Johnny ce in I forgot. I

4:56

felt bad that we didn't have him for My screw

4:58

Up. So I think we're gonna do a little my scho up

5:00

and then we'll do the new one. But we got to talk

5:02

to him about my screw up.

5:08

Thunder is applause, But John, my god,

5:20

there he is. What I

5:23

brought him? Handsome? Hello

5:25

fellas. How good

5:28

of Zachie. I haven't seen you. I get to

5:30

I have some one on one time

5:33

with Donald. We played golf

5:35

a couple of months ago. Yes we do, so

5:37

that was good. But I don't get to see you, Zachie.

5:39

I know I miss you, sir. I miss you a lot,

5:42

and I'm watching these episodes and

5:44

we will do lots of fawning over you. But

5:47

you are such a good actor, and it's so fun

5:49

to revisit these and just see

5:51

what an incredible performance you give

5:54

and continue to give in this show. So

5:56

Johnny, um, well wait till you're settled.

5:58

But I wanted to just say that the fans

6:01

have been clamoring for more Johnny

6:03

c McGinley, it's everything we get is all

6:05

right? Enough of the bullshit? Where is Johnny

6:07

c McGinley give us Johnny c McGinley

6:12

respectfully disagree. I don't ever try

6:14

to step on any fans toes. But uh,

6:17

that with Bill, when Bill came back, and when

6:19

with real Bill

6:22

on there. Uh

6:24

and then of course Josh he the other day

6:26

was just spectacular. Yeah.

6:29

Yeah, we had a lot of great feedback from the Josh

6:31

Frady. Yeah, Josh, Josh came on and

6:33

there we had a good show with Josh.

6:36

He did a sting man. Everyone said

6:38

his voice was so soothing, not not even

6:40

when he was singing. When he's I think Josh puts

6:42

on a little bit of a radio voice,

6:44

you know he was. That's definitely a fucking radio

6:46

voice. Man on

6:49

this dude got on the mica was like, hello,

6:51

my name was Josh Raiding. Yeah, he was seducing

6:54

the world and I'm gonna drop my I'm gonna

6:56

drop my pitch down

6:58

a few out there. Yeah he did do that. The fuck

7:00

I need to be I

7:04

wouldn't know Josh's voice from anything

7:06

other than being

7:09

drunk at four o'clock in the morning. And screaming at

7:11

him how much I love him. So I

7:15

wouldn't I wouldn't know Josh's

7:17

voice, his real speaking voice

7:19

if they hit me over the fucking kid. But you're

7:21

right. He did do that all of a sudden, and we were like okay,

7:24

and we're recording, and he was like, yeah, I just want to

7:26

say that I love being on the radio.

7:28

And it was like he was It was like he was in

7:30

that uh and a guest ire.

7:33

Yeah, yeah,

7:37

it was like he was in that sweaty ball sketch. I

7:39

just want to I just want to put those sweaty balls in my mouth.

7:42

I can't wait to eat your sweaty balls. Yeah,

7:44

I love that. I love that sketch. That

7:46

was such a funny sketch like public they were like a public

7:49

access. Yes, we just wanted to say that

7:52

I loved it. How do you how do you

7:54

like to how do you like to eat your

7:56

sweaty balls? Oh? I love it to just pop

7:58

him in my mouth. I with my mouth real

8:01

wide and I throw those sweaty

8:03

balls in my mouth. Wait.

8:07

We never counted into the song Jenna

8:10

stories about show

8:13

we made about

8:15

a bunch of dots and nurses and jan

8:19

said he's stories never

8:24

so YadA around here, a yadoo

8:27

around here.

8:34

We are we are fortunate and blessed

8:36

to have our co star Johnny

8:38

c McGinley on my plan. Um

8:41

was originally gonna have Johnny on for My screw

8:43

Up, but because of Donald's work

8:45

schedule and COVID and changing everything

8:47

around, it didn't work out because, uh,

8:50

we actually ended up recording at the last minute, and I literally

8:53

called Josh Rayden. I was like, will you be our guest?

8:56

So, Johnny, I just wanted to start

8:58

off and talk about your impressions this

9:00

many years later seeing My screw Up. You

9:03

know what many of the fans think is

9:05

is one of the finest episodes we did

9:07

in nine years, and it's certainly at the center

9:09

of it is your incredible performance,

9:11

and I just wanted to hear your thoughts

9:14

on it watching it this many years later.

9:17

Um, well, I can't. I

9:19

can't start with I mean, I went through the

9:21

episode and the first

9:24

notes and I'll just bang them. I'll just bang them

9:26

out with you and some well

9:28

no, you guys didn't really touch on these,

9:31

uh with Joshi, so these

9:33

will be relatively fresh.

9:36

Uh. I thought that

9:38

Krista looked apt. She always looked beautiful,

9:40

but I thought Krista looked I guess she

9:42

was between kids and

9:45

she's just killing her jeans,

9:47

killing it. She just

9:51

looked like a smoke show. Yeah,

9:54

Zachie, the golf club to the nuts. I completely

9:56

forgot about it. And what

9:58

the heck did you did you have on a big steel plate

10:01

or something. I must have had a big cup on, obviously,

10:03

and more than a cup, because you

10:05

can't take that without it, Man's not a way. Because

10:08

but also Tara bliss her heart. She may not

10:10

be the most gifted physical comedian. So

10:12

I'm sure that club was just coming back.

10:15

I don't remember it at all, but I do. I can

10:17

assure you I had a cup on. There's a handful

10:20

of times when I would be doing stunts

10:22

and they'd be like, I think you want to cup for this one, and

10:24

I would be like, I just want to come for all of them, just in

10:26

case. Absolutely. Let's

10:30

that's like they have a thing called a

10:32

it's a girdle that you can put on that's

10:35

from in football. It's almost it's a steel

10:37

from football, but it's called a tortishel tortoiseshell

10:40

and you can put a tortoiseshell girdle on and

10:42

to protect your hips and your lower back,

10:44

and it doesn't read. It's just a thin piece

10:46

of plastic and you just put

10:48

on you put on the tortoishelf. Your

10:50

your your life is going to be better. Yeah,

10:53

I think. I think once you're definitely better.

10:55

Yeah, you never. I don't remember that one at

10:57

all. I don't even know if that was a real club or if

10:59

they gave a foam end to it or not. But yeah,

11:02

she did take a whack to my grind. Also,

11:05

you tearing into the photo is almost

11:07

like something I don't know if you are versed

11:10

enough in Jerry Lewis. And that's not condescending. There's

11:12

some people who don't like Jerry Lewis. He's a really

11:14

great physical comedian. And you try to

11:17

tear into the photo completely

11:19

self generated, and it's completely

11:21

committed, and he totally

11:24

caught me off guard. And so he's

11:27

such a weakling. He can't rip it. I'm

11:30

like doing that. Wait,

11:32

hold on, have you ever tried to rip a Polaroid's right?

11:39

Right, So let's let's give JD some credit. It

11:41

is very difficult to rip a polaroid when

11:44

Brennan says, you've slept with both we have something

11:46

in common. You've slept with both of my sisters.

11:48

We have something in common. That's

11:50

just Bill being devious. Yeah,

11:53

Yeah, the man has a twisted twist.

11:56

And then he circles back to the joke later on

11:58

when he you guys are walking down the whole and

12:00

he says, I find Danny

12:02

to be more of a of a yeah,

12:05

and christ is more brutal. And it

12:08

just makes you so, it makes you you,

12:10

Zach, you can see, it's just making you uncomfortable.

12:12

Well, they really do talk, not like

12:15

Christa and her brother and uh and

12:17

Bill are all close, you know, and they must

12:20

have obviously been the inspo for for some

12:22

of this. And there's definitely times

12:24

where you're like so cringey around them because they

12:26

do not censor themselves. They're a lot like that. I

12:29

thought when when somebody,

12:31

oh, there goes missus

12:33

Carlo butt face, uh maybe

12:36

left. It's just stupid

12:38

joke. It's a stupid joke. But

12:40

because for the fans, if you're listening, if you don't remember,

12:43

Donald's the plan is he's gonna have

12:45

his mole removed and they're gonna graft skin

12:47

from his ass, and

12:49

so everyone starts saying, well, your name's gonna

12:51

be butt face, then my

12:54

name will not be butt face. It's not gonna have Turke

12:56

runs around hospital, but you will not be calling

12:58

me butt face. Is not gonna happened, and

13:00

Elliott goes to town with it. Yeah,

13:03

I thought I thought it was interesting that the writers

13:06

snuck in that Cox had been there

13:08

for sixty straight hours. I guess

13:11

most of us have never worked sixty straight hours,

13:13

and so I thought that was interesting. And I'm sure that must

13:16

have been a gold mine nugget for me back when

13:18

I was breaking this thing down, that when when

13:21

Brendan does that incompetent puppets

13:23

thing with Sarah, it looks effortless.

13:26

The two of them, it's just effortless.

13:30

That was such a great moment for both of them. Yeah,

13:32

and then I mean what really kills it

13:34

though, was hard walking away and him

13:36

falling off the counter like he's still tethered

13:38

to her, you know what I mean? It was the

13:41

two of them. Yeah, they're just

13:43

both really I mean, I think Sarah

13:45

walks on water, but Brendan also, he's

13:49

really good. He's really good. Yeah, he's really

13:51

good, and watching the episode,

13:53

you forget how charming is. Like this man was

13:55

an absolute movie star, you know what I mean,

13:57

like big time movie star, biggest movies,

14:00

some of the biggest movies of all time, and so

14:03

you forget you you know, you

14:05

get caught up in the fact that you're just working with another

14:07

actor, but you forget there's a reason why

14:09

this person has all of

14:11

this stuff behind him, all of this energy

14:14

behind him. And when you watch it on

14:16

screen and it shows you're it's

14:18

always you're always reminded. Like, so watching

14:20

this episode, like right away, it was like, holy shit,

14:24

it's kind of a fine it's kind of a self

14:26

serving, kind of self rewarding

14:28

epiphany when you see it and

14:31

then you get to realize it. You think, oh, Brendan

14:33

so handsome and he's so talented, blah blah blah blah.

14:35

And then he just knocks off up

14:37

a dumb puppet show with Sarah

14:40

all right in the middle of the day the shooting. It's

14:42

a fourteen hour day and they just they crush

14:44

it. Right, Johnny, do you did

14:47

you have the experience watching this knowing

14:49

the reveal at the end in a new way because neither

14:52

Donald nor I had had seen it, you

14:54

know, since we made it, really and

14:56

it was kind of fun to see all the little easter

14:59

egg hidden mull when um, you

15:01

know, knowing the reveal

15:03

that you wouldn't know if it was your first time. But

15:08

what really struck me was

15:11

the how seamless

15:13

the ensemble is. Everybody

15:16

is. This is season three, it's

15:18

the middle of the season and the

15:21

writers are cooking. I guess Garrett

15:23

and Neil wrote it, Yes, and

15:25

yeah they did, and and Chris

15:27

Kotch is in really good form

15:29

directing this thing, and he knows to let

15:31

the horses run and

15:34

every everybody, Judy and Donald

15:36

and Zachie kind of lifting

15:38

the whole first act, kind of carrying the first

15:40

act, you know. The pass out through the bushes

15:43

is it's fantastic. It's

15:45

great. And it looks like you. He looks

15:48

like he scared the living shit out of you when he jumps

15:50

on that car. I think he did. I

15:52

think I think there was the giant

15:54

pad back there and I just fucking leaped

15:57

into the air backwards onto it. It It was awesome.

16:00

Just establishes a ton of things. It doesn't look

16:02

like your acting. It looks like someone scared

16:04

the piss out of you. And that

16:06

that's I called setting the table. That sets

16:09

the table, and that largely

16:11

tells us a ton about your relationship with him.

16:14

Um. I

16:17

was struck by how great, uh the

16:19

whole the ensemble, isn't it? And I

16:22

heard Donald talking about that scene with Kenny

16:24

in the closet and he's

16:26

just he's

16:30

money, Vince

16:32

Vaughan Ley, He's just money.

16:35

And you know he has to affect

16:37

this crazy almost caricature

16:39

sometimes and then when he wants to shift

16:42

down into it. You can see that he ran

16:44

the Shakespeare Festival down in Louisville.

16:46

You know he was freaking, you know he

16:48

was. There's nothing, there's nothing

16:51

non veteran about him. And it's that Chris,

16:53

that Chris Cootch let him have a no look

16:56

at the end of that scene

16:58

where Judy thanks him or or whatever.

17:00

The button is on the scene and he

17:03

just doesn't know look exit and it's

17:05

so clean and he doesn't have to look back

17:07

to to accept her gratitude

17:10

or anything. He's done. He said what he means

17:12

to say. Now he's leaving and

17:15

it's just really clean. It's a special

17:17

moment too. Because you know, like you said, I think

17:20

Ken even articulated this when he was on the show, particularly

17:22

he was talking about season one. He felt that he didn't really

17:25

like it. He felt he was too cartoonish and he

17:27

and he wished he'd been directed to be smaller.

17:30

I you know, we think he's hilarious

17:33

and all of it's perfect, but when you do, when

17:35

when Kelso does get a moment like this

17:37

finally in season three where it's just can

17:40

being able to drop in and be a real, completely

17:43

empathetic human being, uh,

17:46

you really get a glimpse of the level of actor

17:49

that he is. It's a it's

17:51

a it's like sure, you

17:53

know, I was watching TV the other

17:55

night and Ken was on Deep Star Trek

17:57

Generation Next Generation and

18:00

he's working with Will Wheaton on

18:03

the show, and it's a it's a younger Ken

18:05

Jenkins. It's not you know Ken Jenkins when he

18:07

was doing Scrubs and after it's a

18:09

much younger Ken Jenkins. And

18:12

I remember thinking, holy, you

18:14

know, he's still he had he had

18:16

he had the chops back then. To

18:18

do Star Trek isn't no easy feat,

18:20

you know what I mean, if everybody could, you

18:22

know, Star Trek in some ways is like Shakespeare.

18:24

You gotta talk science and sound convincing.

18:27

In a lot of ways. Ken was able

18:29

to do it no problem. It's

18:31

an easy thing. You watch movies like

18:33

Courage on the Fire and he's in scenes with Denzel

18:36

Washington and you're like, holy shit, Ken

18:38

freaking this is something he's been doing

18:40

this forever. I can't express it enough.

18:43

I've said it from the beginning. He's like the MVP

18:45

of our crew man because he takes he

18:47

takes the hate. He's the character that

18:50

everybody loves to hate. He's just an

18:52

MVP. Like whenever the hospital

18:54

is against the whole the whole cast,

18:56

it's usually Ken's character. It's usually Kelso's

18:59

character who pulls everybody back in to

19:01

figure shit out, you know what I mean. You would think it

19:03

would be Cox or you would think it

19:05

would be the go to mentor,

19:07

But whenever the hospital's kicking our ass

19:10

and not Ken, he's the one that usually

19:13

turns us around. All

19:15

right, Well, let's segue Johnny to the to

19:17

the end, because we want to spend a lot

19:19

of time on the next episode. So let's

19:21

talk about this. First of all, your performance.

19:25

I joined millions of people in saying, this

19:27

is a very very fine performance

19:29

you give in this episode, and um,

19:32

you know some of everyone's I posted

19:34

this on Twitter the

19:37

other day. I said, we're going to be discussing this moment,

19:39

and it was a still of you and me in the moment you

19:41

have the realization. And the overwhelming

19:44

response was like, I'm not ready to cry. I'm

19:46

not ready to cry. I can't deal with it this

19:48

many years later, I'm still gonna sob So

19:52

just talk about in particular that

19:54

that funeral scene. I mean you just that

19:57

moment gives me goose bumps even describing

19:59

it. But and when when I when I say, where

20:01

do you think we are? And you have this realization? Well

20:05

I was. I heard Donald the other day talking

20:07

about going through his divorce,

20:09

and I was shoved

20:12

deep in a divorce and I

20:14

was feeling horribly inadequate

20:17

as a dad to a special needs child,

20:20

and I was going to the shrink whenever

20:22

I wasn't on the set, I was working

20:24

with Barry, and I was trying

20:27

to wade myself.

20:29

I was trying to chart a course through what

20:32

was really confusing to me as a I'll

20:34

make it up A forty year old man who

20:37

was I've

20:40

never been more had

20:42

my chops finer as an actor, and

20:45

then off the set, I felt like

20:47

a complete and utter failure,

20:50

and I was trying to reconcile

20:52

that every single waking second.

20:55

And so when I got

20:57

to do this scene, a

21:00

lot of the inadequacies

21:03

that were profoundly right

21:05

in the front of my skull were

21:08

resonating. And so when you

21:10

guys touched me, I couldn't.

21:13

I couldn't keep it together, I

21:15

wrote, I wrote down in my notebook that there

21:17

that my tribe is scattered, and it's

21:20

from a poem that I found at

21:22

that time. It's in my notebook Um with

21:26

Covid Layers by Stanley Konans.

21:28

I'll read it to you. And this was what was going

21:30

through my head, or I was trying to keep this in my head.

21:33

And then all of all I could think about was

21:37

what forty years of trying

21:39

to do the right thing and let up to when feeling

21:41

like an abject failure as

21:43

a father and a husband, and

21:47

coming back to this house every night solo

21:49

and the whole thing, it

21:52

felt like the floor dropped out. In season three

21:54

and that Billy wrote this for

21:57

Cox's arc dealt

22:01

more with loss, and the loss that I

22:03

was trying to reconcile was,

22:06

what do you what's this adding

22:09

up to? If I couldn't be

22:12

everything whatever I perceived as possible

22:15

to a two or three

22:17

year old with special needs and a

22:20

failed marriage. And so I

22:23

came across this thing the layers, as

22:25

I'm always searching for ways that resonate

22:28

for me. And it's a guy named

22:30

Stanley Kunitz, and he goes, I've walked through many

22:32

lives, some of them my own, and I

22:35

am not who I was, though some

22:37

principle of being abides, from

22:39

which I struggle not to stray. When

22:41

I look behind, as I'm compelled to look before

22:43

I can gather strength to proceed on my journey,

22:46

I see the milestones dwindling toward the

22:48

horizon, and the slow fires trailing from

22:51

the abandoned campsites, over

22:53

which scavenger angels wheel on heavy

22:55

wings. Oh, I have made a tribe

22:58

out of my true affections, and my

23:00

tribe is scattered. How

23:02

shall the heart be reconciled to its feast

23:05

of losses? In a rising wind?

23:07

The manic dust of my friends, those

23:09

who fell along the way bitterly

23:11

stings my fades. Yet I

23:14

turn, I turn, exalting somewhat

23:16

with my will intact to go wherever

23:19

I need to go. And every stone

23:21

of the road presses to me. In

23:23

my darkest night, when the moon's covered and

23:25

I roamed through the wreckage, a

23:28

nimbus clouded voice directed

23:30

me live in the layers, not

23:32

on the litter. And though I lack the

23:34

art to decipher it, no doubt the next chapter

23:36

of my book of transformations is already

23:38

written. And I am not done with

23:40

my changes. And that's what I brought to

23:42

that funeral, and it

23:45

resonates to me for me to

23:47

this day. And because

23:49

I couldn't organize what I

23:52

couldn't organize what was going on in the shrink's

23:55

office every day away from the set, and

23:57

so I needed to lean into Cunan

24:00

his piece. And then you guys were unbelievably

24:02

supportive. And ah,

24:06

we had Olympia Tococcus as a master teacher

24:08

at NYU, and one of her the whole

24:10

things about weeping in front

24:12

of the class, which is all actors want to do.

24:15

She used to say that in Vegas terms,

24:18

when you go to Vegas, there's a shoe which is

24:20

about eight decks of cards and they're

24:22

all shuffled. And she always

24:24

told us to keep a few in the shoe. And

24:27

I tried. I tried, but

24:29

I couldn't keep it together. It's

24:32

tough. That's that's a very hard you know.

24:34

There are some actors who can do that, and God

24:36

bless them, and that's why they win awards and the

24:39

freaking Academy Awards and stuff. But once

24:41

I get to the point where I release, it's

24:44

coming out. It's coming. It's not stopping. I'm

24:46

sorry. I wish I could stop it. I wish I

24:48

could pull it back in and then regenerate

24:51

that energy again. But once it starts,

24:53

it's like keeping let's

24:55

roll, just keep rolling and start all over,

24:58

or however we need to get this because I'm going to I

25:01

can't stop crying. I have such a hard time at that. You

25:03

know what, It's really powerful, Johnny, when the camera pushes

25:05

in on you and you're crying and

25:09

you allow JD

25:11

to put his hand on his shoulder. I thought that

25:13

was very moving because that's all that's all you're going

25:15

to allow, and that's all JD, you

25:19

know, reads the moment, and that's all It's appropriate

25:21

obviously, and then the camera pushes

25:23

in on you and your crying, but you also see your jaw,

25:25

your classic Johnny c jaw moving, and

25:29

I was thinking that, like Cox

25:33

is is just

25:35

going to be as still in stoic as

25:37

he can, but he as

25:39

he usually is, but he can't control the

25:42

fact that these tears are just going to start streaming down

25:44

his face. And so my interpretation

25:46

was the muscles in your face were like it

25:48

was everything he could do to try and fight

25:51

the emotion, but he but

25:53

he was losing that battle and they were just going to fly

25:55

down his face. I could hear Olympia

25:57

saying keep a few in the shoe, and yeah, I

25:59

was battling. And I love

26:01

when we can see actors battle against shit. But yeah,

26:04

I will also tell you, in all fairness, when

26:06

when I think Christoph first and then and

26:09

then you touched me, there

26:11

was no Cox there that I was craving human

26:15

engagement. That wasn't Cox, that was

26:17

I was McKinley. I was like somebody

26:20

fucking yeah,

26:23

And none of that was written. We just kind of, like I think we

26:25

both Kristy and I um figured

26:29

out what we would do in that situation,

26:31

you know, It's a powerful

26:33

thing that Jordan, the way Jordan is. You know,

26:35

she's selfless in in

26:38

this situation where you

26:40

know, she lost her brother, but

26:43

she understands that Cox

26:46

is hurting way more than she is. You know,

26:48

she might be hurting just as much as he is, but

26:50

she's willing to sacrifice that

26:53

pain and push that pain down. Now we're

26:55

kind of jumping into the next episode, but she's

26:57

willing to sacrifice that pain and push

27:00

it down, bury it

27:03

to support her fragile husband

27:05

and that or fragile boyfriend. And I

27:07

thought that was I thought that was really

27:10

powerful. I thought that was very, very,

27:12

very very We

27:14

didn't we don't ever see that of Jordan, you

27:16

know. And and well,

27:18

I think, you know, if you think, if you take the inspiration,

27:22

Jordan is like Christa in in a lot of ways.

27:25

Well, I was gonna say, you know, it took a while for Christa

27:27

to warm up too, Like no, but I'm

27:29

saying I'll tell you Christa has a lot in

27:31

common with Jordan. She's obviously written for and she

27:33

can be very tough and hardened.

27:36

But then when you get to know where and

27:38

the moment calls for it, you will not find a

27:40

more loyal, loving, care the supported person.

27:44

I've had some dark moments in my life and

27:46

that woman has always been there

27:48

for me and said come over and we're gonna

27:50

have wine and we're gonna talk, and

27:53

she and so, you

27:56

know, just like the just like

27:58

Christa, I think Jordan New

28:01

in this particular moment, even though it's my brother,

28:03

I'm it isn't hitting me like it's hitting my

28:05

person I love, So forget my needs.

28:08

I'm going to take care of this man selfless.

28:11

I was. I'm

28:14

very comfortable in post. I had a post

28:16

production company in the Brill Building for almost fifteen

28:18

years, and as you guys know, I used to go

28:20

the editing department was

28:23

right in the hospital where we're shooting, and

28:25

I used to go down there with Rick Blue and John

28:27

Michelle and I watched stuff because

28:29

if I didn't have anything to do, I want to

28:31

pastor them. And so I saw the moment where

28:34

Zachie goes, where do you think you are? And

28:36

then it's a two shot and Cox

28:39

turns towards the lens and he figures it out

28:41

and John Michelle had cut off and way

28:44

too quick before he realized where he was.

28:46

And you got to you got you've

28:48

got to stay on Cox until he does

28:51

that dopey smile acknowledging that he knows

28:53

where he is. And it's an I said, even if

28:56

it's an ad of two seconds, take it, take

28:58

it somewhere else, take it away somewhere and

29:00

you could argue over two and a half seconds like

29:03

the Magna Carter because the

29:05

show was so tight. And to

29:07

his eternal credit, he

29:09

stays on Cox and Jackie until

29:11

Cox realizes and he does

29:13

that kind of smile that

29:16

this is not a kid's birthday party. This is, in

29:18

fact a funeral. And that's what changed

29:20

the whole episode for me, that John

29:22

Michelle stayed on him long enough so we could see

29:24

this guy arrived at a conclusion

29:28

and instead of just banging that

29:30

big crane shot, which is what we go to next,

29:33

and we got to see this guy arrived

29:35

at what's going on.

29:38

And when John Michelle did that, it changed the whole

29:40

thing to me. It's also a nice cut that shows that Ben's

29:42

no longer there. That's really gratifying. Yeah,

29:44

I mean, that's the that's the you know, those

29:46

two moments combined are the holy shit moment

29:49

that big reveal you know we

29:52

were, I know you were talking about it.

29:54

It struck me so different, man. It's like

29:56

there's so many hints and so many clues

29:58

that he's not there. One

30:00

being the camera Johnny, did you know the camera

30:02

one? I didn't really know the camera one until I read it on the web.

30:06

No, what's the camera one? So he says, you

30:08

say, you still messing around with that stupid

30:11

cameras all the time, And he goes, I'll be taking

30:13

pictures till the day I die. And

30:15

the moment he shows the moment

30:17

he shows up as a hallucination. He no longer

30:19

has a camera with him anymore. Totally

30:22

missed it till you just told me. I did I have to

30:24

say? I had to say. I read it online. I didn't get

30:26

it myself. But it's great, all

30:29

right, Why don't we segue Donald's

30:32

as good podcast host? Should we take a break?

30:34

Probably, Dan, let's take a break, and when we come back,

30:36

we'll hum

30:39

the new one, which is um the episode

30:41

is called My Tormented mentor

30:43

will be right back after these fine words

30:48

formember

30:56

back when we well listen, do we not deliver?

30:59

You guys said we want more? John C McGinley,

31:01

and here he is. We delivered, and

31:04

we're going to talk about a great episode

31:06

that continues Cox's

31:08

recovering from losing his best friend, my

31:11

tormented mentor, which introduces

31:13

a new character named doctor Grace Miller played

31:15

by Bellamy Young. She's

31:18

she gets the gorgeous woman

31:20

scrubs intro, only to

31:22

reveal that she's sort of the female

31:24

equivalent tough ass talking

31:27

doctor Cox type. Do you

31:29

want me to do the recap or would you rather I do?

31:31

I was just just trying to get

31:33

a Bellamy shout out in that, and you

31:35

know, because usually what happens is I do a recap

31:38

and then we start talking about the I'm sorry,

31:40

Donald, I got excited to introduce Bellamy

31:42

Young, but let me get my stop Watch out. I

31:46

too, am a Bellamy Young fan. I

31:48

only drove a scandal. I

31:50

only do this stop Watch thing for the guy

31:52

who makes the graph. That's the really only reason

31:55

I keep doing. All

31:59

Right, we're ready on your marks, gets that go.

32:01

Cox is having a hard time getting ober Ben's

32:04

death. JD wants to be the shoulder

32:06

Cox needs to lean on. There's a new

32:08

boss in the r and all the Scalpel

32:10

jockeys don't know how to act around her.

32:14

All the women in the hospital are frustrated and

32:16

fed up with the lack of respect they received

32:18

from their male counterparts. It's a conversation

32:21

that's been on the table for decades and

32:23

still needs to be addressed. After all

32:25

these years, equality in the workplace still

32:28

hasn't come to fruition. This

32:30

is one of those issues that will be addressed

32:32

until the matter is settled. And

32:35

I'm all for that, Amen,

32:37

Donald, thirty five seconds, graph

32:39

guy. It's fascinating that

32:41

we're having these conversations

32:44

back when we were doing this in two thousand and four,

32:48

And of course they've become so much more

32:51

in the public discourse now with the Me Too

32:53

movement. But here we are in

32:56

two thousand and four. They're having

32:59

to put out a sort of a suggestion box type

33:01

thing where if you're feeling like you're being

33:04

sexually harassed you can report people.

33:06

Um, and the two main people uh

33:09

in the room are Kelso and the Todd

33:11

Yes, well, we knew that Todd would be in there,

33:14

yeah, And we kind of knew that Kelso would

33:16

be in there, yeah, you know, but we didn't know that

33:18

Cox was going to be in there. Now Cox is in

33:20

there for calling me girls names. It's not nearly as egregious

33:22

as the ship that the Todds is

33:28

on. You, Zach Well,

33:31

I thought it was pretty funny that, Um, I

33:33

mean, they decided to make Todd so

33:36

fucking stupid. He's washing the

33:39

dude. Not only is he one he can't

33:41

spell, we learned it. Todd is a dummy. He can't

33:43

spell. No, he's washing his hands. He's a

33:45

surgeon. He's washing his hands with gloves on. Right,

33:48

But I think right, but I think he's right. What

33:50

a moron? Not only that he goes to the sexual

33:52

harassment meeting with an I Love Vagina

33:54

t shirt? What

33:57

kind of moron is that? The great got

33:59

it? I got a circle back. I can't remember if you guys

34:01

told the story or if our creator. That's

34:04

how I'm gonna refer to Billy from that one, as if

34:06

our creator told the story. But

34:09

when we first started early

34:12

on, Billy gathered everybody in what is

34:14

the cafeteria where

34:16

we should is the biggest room in the hospital, the whole

34:18

cast and crew, and I'll make it

34:20

up to one hundred and ten people or so, and

34:23

he did his no asshole policy

34:26

speech, and what he meant was, you don't

34:28

have to come to work and be

34:31

on pins and needles, but you have to come

34:33

to work and treat each other with respect. And

34:35

Billy, who does not like confrontation

34:37

and is not mister tough guy,

34:40

when he laid that down, he meant

34:42

it. And so if you come to work and you're

34:44

an asshole, and this circles right back into

34:46

the sexual harassment, but he wasn't just talking

34:49

about sexual harassment. That if

34:51

you can't be nice to each other, you will

34:53

be fired. And subsequently a couple of people

34:55

were for breaking the no asshole

34:57

policy. And I've brought that with to

35:00

a couple of different things that I've produced

35:02

since I bring the casting crew

35:04

around. I'm sure not as elegant and graceful

35:07

as Billy doing it, but if you

35:09

can't be nice, and Billy knew one

35:11

thing we didn't that we were going to be there for quite

35:13

a while as far as years go, and

35:16

he introduced the no asshole policy, and

35:19

I've stolen it on everything I do. Everything

35:21

I produced, I tell the casting crew there's

35:24

a no asshole policy here. You can do

35:26

whatever you want, but be nice or I'm gonna

35:28

fire you. Yeah, that's great, you

35:30

know, I just can't put his money where

35:32

his mouth was. I don't understand how you can

35:34

go to work and just be an asshole. Like,

35:37

there's a lot of pricks out there. There's a lot of

35:39

assholes out there, you know. Whenever I started, whenever

35:41

you start a new job, I

35:43

had a friend who would always be like, who's the asshole?

35:46

Like you'd have to find out who they are? So

35:48

let me ask a question. And if I'm wrong, I'm

35:50

wrong, but I want to ask this question. If

35:53

somebody's being an asshole, right,

35:58

is it just you're fired? Or

36:01

if somebody's being an asshole, at what point

36:04

does it become all right? I can't

36:06

take this anymore. You

36:09

are going to be escorted out of here. Seems

36:12

really nearly fired people. You have to they have to

36:14

be doing something that is affecting the

36:16

workplace, and in this obviously

36:19

in this case of sexual harassment,

36:22

but it could be um, you

36:24

know, just being a hard especially on

36:26

a movie set, someone who's just bringing a toxic

36:28

energy and and and making everyone

36:30

not do their their best. Um.

36:33

There are lots of times when characters

36:36

get written off of shows and it's

36:38

for no other reason that everyone was like fuck

36:40

this. But I think, by the way,

36:42

this is not exclusive to actors, because yeah,

36:47

I'm about to say somebody people were not actors.

36:49

Yo. No, I don't think any of the more

36:52

actors. But I'm saying I was using

36:54

the story of the times

36:57

that when you hear

36:59

like creative differences, that often means

37:01

the person these were an asshole. Right.

37:05

I always dot admit they just saw differently

37:07

than the director saw it. But yeah, I get it.

37:10

Well. I mean sometimes that you

37:13

know a lot of times when it's like date date

37:16

conflicts, it's like no conflicts,

37:21

The dates didn't conflict. The person was like, I gotta

37:23

tell you, I thought Laverne had a couple of a

37:25

couple of one liners here to drop me. The

37:27

Hilton sisters thing, yes when she goes

37:29

other way around, sugar, and then when

37:32

she when she drops mister Roberts

37:34

flex to wear my proceeds. Yeah,

37:36

and she does it so dead, so

37:39

dead. So if LaVerne's story is

37:41

true, and we don't really know, um,

37:45

mister and missus Hilton named

37:47

their two daughters after LaVerne's

37:49

breath. Now, I'm not sure how that would

37:52

have transpired, but

37:55

she just yeah,

37:58

she's very funny. Also tell Uni

38:01

maybe maybe

38:03

left no whack back to anybody's unibrow, But

38:05

that made me left, he said, my waxers in the

38:07

Bahamas? What was

38:09

I supposed to do? Get another

38:12

one that came out of nowhere?

38:14

I mean, why does Todd just randomly have a unibrow?

38:16

There's no other reference to it. It's just it's just that's

38:20

writers climbing the wall in season three,

38:24

I love, I would love. I'm thinking that would be the funniest

38:26

thing to be in the writer's room, be like, all right, who's going to be in charge

38:29

of writing the Todd jokes for this episode?

38:32

So you know, uh, do you

38:34

know that the writer's

38:36

rooms there were two before the strike,

38:38

there was seven in each room and Bill

38:40

with leapfrog back and forth as each

38:43

episode was written. It was the psychiatric

38:45

ward of the hospital. Yeah. Yeah,

38:48

imagine the energy that was steward

38:50

in those rooms. Absolutely. Um.

38:53

How about when when Donald goes to

38:55

Todd hot chick at twelve o'clock

38:58

and he looks at and he

39:00

looks up, what

39:02

a moron is a hot cheek on the ceiling?

39:05

Right, He's a moron? So

39:08

the janitor and Ted we learn um,

39:10

Yes, this is a joke

39:12

that not a lot of people paid attention to. Not

39:15

a lot of people paid attention to this joke, because

39:17

this joke should have been running for it. Ever,

39:20

this is a joke that could have gone on and on

39:22

and on and on and on. We learned that the janitor

39:25

and Ted frequent a Korean

39:27

singles night at a Korean church, and

39:31

the janitor brings the

39:33

date to the work the next day. I mean,

39:36

are we supposed to infer that she's

39:38

left over? And also

39:40

it turns out that he's multi lingual.

39:43

Yeah, yes, they both are. They both

39:46

are they well,

39:48

they both know enough conversational Korean

39:50

Johnny to hit on on Korean single women.

39:53

It's it's not unusual, but for

39:56

some reason, I guess because I don't

39:58

get to watch them all. But when every time

40:01

Sam opens his mouth and off freaking episodes,

40:03

I'm dying when he dumps that

40:05

fucking cookie.

40:09

Yeah, never

40:13

have been such a great spin off of all the

40:15

secondary characters, like custodians,

40:18

great legal custodians. But I mean like going

40:20

into the lives of you know, I

40:23

don't know, you know, how these days

40:25

a show will do something like a totally different

40:27

episode. You know, there was an episode of Master

40:30

of None that was went off and

40:32

started following people that had never been in the show before,

40:34

and then at the end it had it had a purpose, and it

40:36

was really cool. If we were making this show

40:38

today, you could do a whole episode where was like we

40:41

just follow Sam and like it's like he's

40:43

not even in the hostel. He has like he has like a

40:45

week off. I just want to follow a week

40:47

of Ted's Like, I

40:52

gotta tell you. I've told you this before, but

40:55

you dancing is the biggest

40:57

gift to the writer's room in the history of

40:59

the world. They use it with everything. It's

41:02

it's we need, we need, we need a

41:04

special moment Donald dance. It

41:06

was good though it was gold. I'd forgotten. You

41:08

know, your other one gets so much attention.

41:10

I didn't remember this moment. I didn't

41:12

either. I didn't remember it either. Now

41:15

are you singing MC hammer?

41:18

Yes? But is hammer

41:20

playing on the boombox? Or is it you playing hammer

41:23

on the boombox? No, it's it's it's

41:25

it's not hammer on the It's

41:27

not hammer. She calls me hammer because

41:29

of my dancing. Oh, but I say a rap

41:32

going, or you're just rapping something? What are you? Are

41:34

you rapping? I forgot. I think there's a rap going. I think

41:36

there's music. I only ask because on scrubs Wiki

41:38

it says um that it's

41:41

here comes the Hammer originally by

41:43

Hammer, performed by Donald Fazon.

41:48

That's not true. It's not true. No,

41:50

that wasn't me rapping. That wasn't that

41:52

wass Wicky? Well, what's what's

41:54

his name? Trevor, Yeah, Trevor, Yeah,

41:56

Trevor, get it together, Trevor. Actually,

41:58

let's try Trevor here, Daniel and Joel,

42:01

Trevor, do you know that that's sorry,

42:04

we've we've discovered a mistake on scrubs.

42:06

Wicky. You can you can try and defend

42:08

it right now if you want to, Trevor. Yeah, Trevor, How

42:10

would you let such a horrible

42:12

mistake get through on scrubs? Wicki, that is

42:15

not Donald rapping as MC hammer. Are

42:17

you saying all African Americans sound alike?

42:19

Trevor, trev

42:24

trev you don't have to answer

42:26

that. You don't have to

42:28

answer that. You

42:31

walk away from that one, because you're in trouble if

42:33

you answer that one. All right, he's

42:35

been he's been disciplined. There's no way

42:37

to answer that. Hey, there's Zach, Donald, Joel

42:40

and Daniel. It's the Internet. It's

42:42

littered with misinformation. Apologies

42:45

about the error on the wiki. I fixed

42:47

the edit that Donald was the one rapping.

42:49

I think I was just mesmerized by his dancing. Johnny,

42:52

Is that a Star Wars pinball machine in your

42:54

back round? It is absolutely?

42:57

Oh my god, Donald, did you know that in Indiana? John

43:00

One? Oh my god, Donald, did you know that? Yeah?

43:02

He showed it to me. Okay, how

43:05

is the golf game, Johnny? Was?

43:07

Was it fun to swing the

43:10

axe with Donald? I

43:12

like to play by myself because I like to play

43:14

against the course and see how close I can get to par.

43:17

That's kind of the way I play golf because I don't bet and

43:20

I don't drink on the golf course. And so

43:22

a kindred spirit is Donald, who

43:25

obviously is a much better athlete than I am. He has better

43:27

feet, he has better hands, he has a better swing,

43:30

and to be able to be with him for an hour

43:32

and a half was spectacular.

43:34

Was amazing. Man. It was such a good time, and

43:36

I wish I can get back there. It's just that for

43:39

some reason. Now every Thursday

43:42

or Wednesday, I'm fucking

43:44

working. It seems like I don't know how that

43:48

great conflict but nowhere.

43:51

I love that you invite him to a nice course, because

43:53

this guy is often playing not

43:55

the nicest courses, and he loves golf so

43:58

much, so if you anytime, you can bring him to one

44:00

of those swanky places as as his

44:02

his joy. I want to

44:04

join, man, I want to join, but we are in a pandemic

44:07

right now, and my wife ain't let me spend no money.

44:10

I will say that when when you and

44:13

Sarah are talking about the conflict

44:16

between a female doctor or an Afrian

44:18

American doctor and then doctor Rhodes

44:20

watched me. Yeah,

44:25

I don't remember the stuff, and so what I

44:27

remember it smacks me. It's great that

44:29

I do remember that. I remembered that when

44:31

I did remember, Wait, who wrote this? This

44:34

was no Gabby? Gabby

44:37

wrote it. Gabby got skills? Yes

44:39

she does, yeah he on did you hear

44:41

on the show? No, we

44:44

had Gabby on the show. She didn't watch

44:46

the episode. She

44:48

missed the memo that now I got something to listen to

44:50

tomorrow morning. She missed a memo that you

44:53

supposed to watch the episode before she came

44:55

on. So she came on. She came, but she came

44:57

on the show and she was like, I love the podcast. It's

45:00

such a great podcast. But she had

45:02

never listened to whatever. Yeah, I

45:10

remember this. M the two guest

45:12

ladies who were playing Jordan's friends,

45:16

they were very nice. But here's

45:18

the conundrum. I sound like you. Here's

45:21

the conundrum. Am

45:23

Beth David's who played one of them, had

45:25

a horrible cold, like like

45:28

should have been in bed cold, and

45:31

they had to mount me in that vampire

45:34

fantasy, and I remember

45:36

thinking like this is I'm so gonna get

45:38

fight. Like obviously normally when you see someone who super

45:40

sick and they're like sorry, I'm saying you're like go away, go

45:42

away, don't come near me. I had to like make

45:45

out with this woman, and so she's like mounting

45:47

me with her I should

45:50

be in bed cold and chopping

45:52

on my neck and I remember thinking like, ops,

46:00

know, well,

46:02

this was back in the day before you could get

46:04

knocked on your ass from shit like. So she goes

46:06

on to either she goes

46:09

on to either have already done or will

46:11

do Schindler's List. I think

46:13

she had already done. Yeah, she

46:15

had done it already. Yeah. What years?

46:18

Uh is that? Daniel? Can you get that first?

46:20

Real quick? What years should she spectacular

46:23

Shindler's list? Um, Yeah, she's

46:25

got a big career. She's been in lots of things. Ninety

46:29

three. Oh yeah, so that was long time.

46:31

And who is who is the other young woman?

46:33

Who is? I have scrubs? WICKI

46:35

open, I can tell you Ulie Julie

46:38

Warner, oh white? And she

46:40

she played with Michael J. Fox in Doc

46:42

Hollywood. I think, yeah, so anyway

46:45

possible. They were they were great, and

46:47

they were great and did a fun job. But

46:49

my memory is that she had to both pros.

46:52

Yeah, yeah, she had to be a real trooper

46:55

because she just had to do it. And

46:57

I had to pray to yeah

47:00

way that. Um, I didn't get sick, all

47:02

right, Yeah, you're right, Doc Hollywood. Absolutely?

47:06

Um did you laugh when I hide

47:08

in the cabinet amongst the stuffed animals?

47:10

Like et always

47:18

funny, always funny? Um,

47:20

I like young Bob kelso doing

47:26

was worth worth? And and

47:28

then and then Todd listening to Annie of

47:30

all father, Yeah decided

47:34

he was listening to Annie. Well, I think they were trying to

47:36

sit. I don't know what were they trying to say? His

47:38

father it is hard that his father was, that

47:40

his father was hard on him so that when he came

47:42

out of it, he goes, it was a hard knock

47:45

life. Yeah, but no, but

47:47

his father was like supposed to be like

47:49

Todd. But then but Todd's not listening. Todd's

47:51

listening to the Annie soundtrack, So I don't know, I don't really

47:53

understand the fantasy. But his dad's

47:55

not like Todd. His dad's drinking beer and

47:57

all of that stuff. His

48:00

dad's like it seemed like his dad was an abusive dad.

48:02

No, his dad was talking. Wasn't his dad saying

48:04

something about women? And which would be like that's where he got

48:06

it from. But then Todd's like, Dad, I'm listening

48:09

to Annie. Yeah, I guess

48:11

I don't understand. Also, Zachie, when you carry

48:14

I love when actors have a preoccupation, in other

48:16

word, something that's happening outside of frame for

48:18

the character. And so when you bring

48:20

in you're a canary

48:23

in the coal mine here, or I'm sorry, you're you're

48:25

the cat who ate the canary. When you come

48:27

in and you you're going you know, you're

48:29

already reported Cox for sexual but

48:33

you don't tell him. And then Ted comes

48:35

in and pays it off. It's you

48:38

look like you have the secrets

48:40

to some unbelievably

48:43

crazy thing and it's great.

48:45

It's and the lens just devows that

48:47

stuff. Oh man, Yeah, I wondered. I was

48:49

like, why is he running off so fast? Why is he doing

48:52

this? And

48:54

then Ted comes up and explains it. How

48:56

about the fact that Todd is actually proud

48:59

of his sexual harassment compliments?

49:01

Yeah, yeah, says she says forty

49:04

seven or whatever the number. Yes, um,

49:07

and Judy goes the term melons

49:10

is just as bad as sweater meat.

49:15

Sweater meat as as

49:17

usual. I don't want to get in trouble

49:20

for uh not

49:23

for separating. But Judy looks

49:25

absolutely spectacular always,

49:28

not that she doesn't always, Okay, I want to get that,

49:30

but she looks absolutely She's

49:33

a knockout. She's a knockout or

49:35

Judy Yes, I love the

49:37

fact that she's put in charge of the sexual harassment

49:39

meetings and can't get anybody to show up to the to the

49:42

meetings. I love it. Well. The only I think she got

49:44

everyone that was in the box right, She got

49:46

she gets everyone in a button right, and

49:48

then she has to explain to them why

49:51

they're there. And I don't. I don't

49:53

get the Todd one. I do get the kin one. I do

49:55

get the kind one. He's from another era. But

49:58

Tom should be out on his ass, dude, I'm sorry,

50:00

Well, that dude should be out on his ass. Todd

50:03

would be so fired in twenty twenty. Oh my

50:05

god. We used to have these big meetings

50:07

and Johnny mentioned the no asshole policy meetings,

50:09

but we would also have a sexual

50:11

harassment meaning right,

50:14

and they were really hilarious,

50:17

not because of the material, which everyone you know,

50:20

was digesting, but the questions that we could ask,

50:22

many by Donald, which were very funny. Those

50:25

are the least effective seminars in

50:27

the history of seminars. Yeah,

50:29

but it did. It did well

50:32

until you have somebody ask a question that's

50:35

like, oh boy, here we go, you know

50:37

what I mean, Like it was there. There were there were

50:39

a couple of questions where it was you know, there were a couple

50:41

of questions that involved dogs, coup,

50:44

you know what I mean. It was. I can't put it.

50:46

I can't put a whole room full of comedy writers

50:48

in all of us in a room and be like, all right, you're

50:50

gonna gonna but it was good. The person who

50:52

led it, I remember, was a funny person too, and so

50:55

it was. It went

50:57

fast, all right. The guest is here? Should

50:59

we take break? Yes, stud that We'll

51:01

be right back with a fancy beautiful

51:04

guest. You

51:11

okay, welcome back, and

51:14

um here comes Emily. Ladies

51:16

and gentlemen, please give it up for

51:19

the one, the only, the

51:21

only, Emily. Emily.

51:29

Hi, there you are. Oh good, you're

51:31

lying down, Hire,

51:33

lying down, Hi, Emily. Welcome to the program. We

51:36

have Johnny c McGinley with us today. Hello,

51:39

Amma, that's amazing. Hi. We're

51:41

very we're very happy you're joining us on

51:44

the on the podcast. I don't know if you heard this, Johnny.

51:46

We may have mentioned it before you came on, but we've

51:49

just been told we are the most downloaded

51:52

new comedy podcast on

51:58

Daniel thunder supplause and then maybe

52:00

a timpany sort of finished to that.

52:03

Don't yeah, like like the end of Star

52:05

Wars. Don't don't don't, don't, don't,

52:07

don't don't do. Emily,

52:10

Welcome to the program. Where are you calling from? I'm

52:13

calling from Shanghai, China. Oh

52:18

what time is It's

52:21

six am China. This

52:24

is this is our first call from

52:26

from China. Uh, it's my first call

52:28

from China as well. Um, I'm in Shanghai right

52:31

now. We just moved here on

52:33

We left on Wednesday from the States, and

52:36

I guess today is Saturday. I'm not sure

52:38

it's Saturday here, right? Yes, that was quarantine.

52:42

Did you guys have to quarantine and all that stuff? Are you quarantine?

52:45

Right? Yeah? I'm quarantining right

52:47

now in a hotel. Um. Yeah,

52:50

it was a totally reason for your life move

52:52

to Shanghai. My

52:54

husband's career. They were coming

52:56

here for a couple of years. Do you feel

52:58

about that? Are you do you already resent

53:01

him and hate him? Or are you excited? No,

53:05

I'm actually a little worried that I'm going to embarrass him

53:07

in some way. So that's what I'm mostly

53:09

concerned about, is that I'm going to be because

53:12

I'm the streets. Well

53:14

he's at work, and I'm gonna be like arguing with

53:16

vendors and you know, just being a crazy

53:18

American in Shanghai. Oh

53:21

that sounds like a fun adventure. Did you learn the language

53:23

at all or are you gonna learn the language? No,

53:25

it was kind of it wasn't. We weren't sure if

53:27

it was going to all come together. So, you know, I've been

53:30

working and raising kids and unable

53:32

to really put in the time to study, but I did learn.

53:34

I'm sorry, Dubuchi, you're

53:37

going to be a yeah, yeah,

53:40

get some basics down. I'm sorry, I'm sorry

53:42

I don't speak Chinese. Um, I'm

53:44

sorry you speak English idea.

53:48

So sorry, Yeah, So

53:51

I'm gonna spend I can't work while I'm here,

53:53

so I'm going to spend, you know, however much time

53:55

trying to get fluent. So that'll be great, that'll

53:58

be fun. Well, yeah, get one of those um apps.

54:00

They have really helpful apps.

54:03

We we we advertise one, don't you advertise?

54:05

We advertise one? Yeah, Joel, what's

54:07

the one we everised? Right? Babbel? Yeah, yeah,

54:09

we advertise babbel. Get yourself, get yourself, get

54:12

yourself some babble o get myself. So

54:14

all right, do you have a question for us?

54:17

Emily? You have you have Daniel

54:19

here, Donald, the legendary Johnny

54:21

c anything, go ahead, Yeah, so Donald,

54:24

my question is actually for you. And yeah,

54:26

finally you know something on this podcast

54:28

for like, however, many episodes

54:31

and they don't ever ask me anything. They always

54:33

ask zac about Garden State through that and

54:35

then and then when then they start asking about

54:37

kids and family and they don't want to ask

54:40

me. They want my wife to come on the show and come

54:42

up. I hope

54:44

this is something that I can answer, and that's something that

54:46

I have to go get my wife for it. Let's go, Emily, that's better

54:48

be about the dagab Yeah. If it's about

54:50

If it's about Star Wars, I got you. If

54:54

it's about Star Wars in China, I got

54:56

you. All right, go ahead, Emily. My

54:59

son's right over there. He's got a million Star Wars questions

55:01

that I cannot answer, even though I'm a huge fan. Okay,

55:04

so, um, my question is Donald.

55:06

So I've been listening to the podcast obviously for since

55:08

you guys. You guys started and sometimes

55:11

you guys burst into song, which I love. Um,

55:14

but I've noticed that you Donald, whenever

55:16

you start singing something, you start singing

55:18

it exactly at the right pitch that

55:21

the song was written in and so and

55:23

that you yeah, and

55:26

so I was and that's what I wanted to ask

55:28

was do you have perfect pitch? Or I

55:31

do? Now? Am take something

55:33

right now? I do now? I

55:35

do? HALLA asked

55:37

me any any artists

55:39

out there who needs like a cover of your

55:41

song or you just want to do a collab with me? You

55:44

heard it from M I got perfect pitch. I got you you

55:46

need, you need, you need, you need a Nate Dog,

55:49

you need a you need something like that. I could say,

55:51

I I got you know, I got I got a little bit of something

55:53

like that. I can't, I can't. I can't ever be the late

55:55

great Nate Dog. You can't ever you

55:58

can't ever ever ever ever placed

56:00

a late great Nate Dog. But I could sing a little

56:02

something on your wrap hooks. Um Donald

56:05

is self deprecating at times, but has

56:07

the most incredible voice. And also

56:09

he can seamlessly find the harmony too.

56:12

He always find the harmony, don't

56:15

you know? And that lends that lends to that theory,

56:17

right, because most people can't do that.

56:20

They can't just come in right on the right note.

56:22

I think a lot of people, I mean, especially

56:25

if you can hear the music, yeah it's

56:27

easy. But if you can't hear the music, you

56:30

know, hey, yeah, I don't

56:32

know I don't know. I appreciate

56:35

you saying that. I'm gonna want to sing a little something for Emily

56:37

in Shanghai. Do you want to sing like something for Christmas?

56:39

Like sleigh bells? R? Absolutely?

56:45

Oh, the weather outside is frightful

56:48

with the fire is so delightful.

56:51

And since there's no place to go, let

56:53

it snow, Let it snow, Let it snow. That's

56:56

all I know. To the song man. We finally kiss good

56:58

night beautiful. Donald

57:01

and I did a rendition

57:03

of Baby It's Cold Outside years

57:05

ago. That was a huge hit,

57:08

although now you can't only say that

57:10

song anymore unless you change the lyrics. What's

57:13

in this drink? That's probably what

57:17

about bring Me your afro Comb? That

57:19

was funny though in our song it's a fucking brush.

57:22

Yeah, that's so. The song. The lyric was she

57:24

says, Hey, lend me your comb, and

57:27

in the song I said, hey, lend me your afro comb,

57:29

and he goes, it's a fucking brush. If

57:34

you've never seen it, you gotta go check it out. It was pretty

57:36

funny. Donald. That was our first like, we

57:38

just thought it would be a silly thing to do, and it went so

57:41

viral, and I remember we went to Hawaii and we

57:43

were watching the YouTube count. You

57:45

were like, oh my god, look what's happening.

57:47

It was like it was everywhere. Yeah. Um,

57:51

all right, Emily, do you have another

57:53

question? I do, and and

57:55

Donald. I'm sorry this is a parenting question, but I think

57:58

you could probably answer kick he's not

58:00

allowed on this one. Yeah, Johnny, I'm

58:03

gonna go get her now just because you didn't know, just

58:07

because you did that, I'm going to get her. No, don't go

58:09

get her, don't go get her, don't go get her. I'm gonna do

58:11

it. Man. You I have a feeling

58:14

your fucking whole thing about getting Casey is going to

58:16

fucking take a quick hit of the blunt. And we got

58:18

Emily, I'm from smoking

58:20

weed. I'm going to get safe hold on Okay,

58:23

Jesus christ A right, sorry, oh

58:26

my god. You

58:28

can commence with your question, yeah, Emily, and begin

58:30

your question. Okay. Well, actually first

58:33

I want to show you this. So in China,

58:35

milk comes in a sack. Okay,

58:39

okay, is thought

58:41

that was cool? Okay, Um, what's

58:43

your question? Um?

58:46

Yeah, So my question was, Um, I have an eight

58:48

year old and a five year old and a

58:51

pretty soon to be born year old. And

58:54

it's just a big age difference between eight and

58:56

a newborn. And I just wanted to ask

58:59

how you manage how do you foster a relationship

59:01

between your older kids and your

59:04

very young kids? And how you yeah,

59:07

yeah, she wants to know how

59:09

you foster old relationship between your young kids

59:11

and your old kids. That's Casey Donald's

59:14

wife. Hi, it broke, Yeah,

59:16

it broke. I've been I've been doing this looks like a sound Oh

59:18

my god, it broke. He broke his headphones.

59:20

You send my

59:22

voice broke it word your loud

59:25

voice. Probably voice broke my headphones.

59:27

That's so funny. Oh my god, I forgot Casey.

59:30

You're a And say, how did Johnny ce? Casey?

59:34

We're good. He looked beautiful.

59:36

Normally are our go to parenting question? And

59:38

we also have Johnny here who has a young children,

59:41

but you go first. How do you foster relationship between

59:43

an older child and a younger child?

59:45

How do you how do you have them all be copacetic?

59:48

You know what? Our situation was kind of crazy.

59:51

Um, you know, Donald has older

59:53

kids and we have our little ones. And

59:56

Donald booked a job and

59:58

on the East Coast and a

1:00:01

week before he left, the kid the older

1:00:03

kids said, we're moving in. And

1:00:06

then Donald said, so the older kids are going to

1:00:08

move in, and I'm gonna move to New York. So,

1:00:12

um, we kind of just got thrown into

1:00:14

it and and it

1:00:16

was sink or swim, and thankfully we all swam.

1:00:19

But um, you know what

1:00:21

I just did. Very this is just

1:00:24

my own thing. I grew up in a divorced family.

1:00:27

Until this day, no one

1:00:29

has ever said a negative thing about the other.

1:00:33

And so I'm a firm believer in not

1:00:36

talking negatively, whether it's you

1:00:39

know, someone's lazy or this or anything

1:00:41

in front of my kids. So yeah,

1:00:44

so that they just they they only see

1:00:46

a positiveness from

1:00:49

having a big brother and a big sister.

1:00:51

And um, because we really didn't we

1:00:54

it was rough. It was rough at first.

1:00:56

It was rough at first, and it came from a broken relationship

1:00:58

too, whereas uh, my ex

1:01:01

wife and I we weren't. We didn't get along, and

1:01:03

uh, God rest her soul, she passed

1:01:06

away, and with her passing,

1:01:08

with her passing away, it opened

1:01:11

up the relationship for myself

1:01:14

and my older kids. And uh,

1:01:18

you know, uh, this is always a difficult

1:01:20

thing for me to talk about. But yeah,

1:01:22

because we didn't we didn't have a relationship. We didn't

1:01:25

have a relationship with them at all, and not

1:01:27

we had a bit of a relationship, but it wasn't

1:01:30

you know, Casey didn't really know my daughter or

1:01:33

my youngest son before we had

1:01:35

kids. And and so you

1:01:38

know, the fact that she was able to do

1:01:41

what she did and take care

1:01:43

of my responsibilities when I was

1:01:45

out of town, you know, helped

1:01:47

out tremendously. Uh. And I feel

1:01:49

like I feel like now and I could be wrong, honey,

1:01:52

and if I'm wrong, you can totally correct me. But

1:01:54

I feel like we were a well oiled machine now

1:01:56

because of it, and we all you

1:01:59

know, right, I think I think a lot

1:02:01

that helped us was that he was out

1:02:03

of the equation. So we were

1:02:05

forced and I mean that in

1:02:07

a possitive way, like we were forced to all

1:02:10

develop our own relationship on

1:02:12

our own without him overcompensating

1:02:16

on this and overcompensating all that and

1:02:18

worrying about are you did you check

1:02:20

with them or did you hug them or did they

1:02:22

check with you? And you

1:02:24

know, so all that, you

1:02:27

know, crap was out the window.

1:02:29

It was more like, hey, I'm

1:02:32

in charge and we're all in this together.

1:02:35

Let's let's do it. But I have to say

1:02:37

where I don't are these are your kids the

1:02:40

youngest or the oldest. So

1:02:44

sorry, I wasn't think these are all home

1:02:46

hours. But yeah, my son

1:02:49

is just my husband has a ten year

1:02:51

age gap between him and his brother, and they

1:02:53

don't you know, they have a good relationship, but

1:02:55

it's not close. And I'm just worried

1:02:57

that my son is who is going to be nine, is

1:03:00

going to not have a close of a relationship

1:03:02

with his youngest sibling. Yeah. Well,

1:03:05

well I personally, video

1:03:08

games is something I can't I cannot stand.

1:03:11

It was the one I just can't stand it. I

1:03:13

think they wrought my kids brains any

1:03:16

kid, and I just am not for it. His son,

1:03:18

the oldest one, is a huge gamer,

1:03:22

and I had to We fought so much

1:03:24

about it, but it was the one thing that that

1:03:27

my seven year old and the eighteen

1:03:30

year old could connect on that that

1:03:32

you know, that's a good point. And eighteen year old

1:03:34

doesn't want to hang out with a seven year old, but when you're

1:03:37

frying your brain together, it doesn't

1:03:39

matter. Yeah,

1:03:43

find something, just that one thing whether you

1:03:45

like it or not, and just let them go

1:03:48

to town on it really and

1:03:51

yeah, I need to be more of a cool mom like that. You're

1:03:53

right, but but limit it because

1:03:55

it was hard. Yeah. Um.

1:03:59

And then the daughter just if it's

1:04:01

girls, you know, it was all about

1:04:04

dancing. So they just

1:04:06

taught each other to dance. And you know, my

1:04:09

daughter looks up to her big sister like

1:04:12

she's the queen. So it was. So

1:04:15

it sounds like your answer is fine, things that they

1:04:17

can find in common, because obviously

1:04:20

they will be able to find things that they like in common.

1:04:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love

1:04:25

that. Thank you, nice to see

1:04:27

you. Thanks for letting

1:04:29

me come back on Zach bullshitan

1:04:34

liar man. First

1:04:37

thing I said to Donald, He was like, babe, can you

1:04:39

come up real quick? I said, oh god? What He was

1:04:41

like, oh, there's family stuff on. I was like,

1:04:43

is Zach pissed? And

1:04:46

you were don't lie, don't lie. I love

1:04:48

it when you come on. I just think that occasionally

1:04:51

he can answer a parenting question without needing

1:04:53

to call a friend. Well, this is a glimpse

1:04:55

inside our marriage. Guys. There's

1:04:59

no occasionally where he can answer

1:05:01

a parenting question. Oh my God, you're

1:05:06

not funny at all. Get out. I would watch

1:05:08

this reality show. All right, Donald,

1:05:10

it's time for Shanghai's favorite

1:05:13

segment of the show. It's

1:05:15

time to fix

1:05:18

your life? All

1:05:22

right, Emily, you have some very

1:05:24

wise minds here. How can we help you in any

1:05:26

way fix your life? Do I need

1:05:28

to go get Casey again? Oh? Okay,

1:05:31

No, no, I think this. I think you're I think you're capable

1:05:34

here. Okay. So yeah,

1:05:37

so I'm more of an introvert, and now

1:05:39

obviously I'm somewhere where I don't have any support

1:05:42

socially or anything like that. So I'm gonna have to make an

1:05:44

effort and like make friends and stuff. I know,

1:05:47

y'all seem like extroverts to me at

1:05:49

least. So do you have any tips

1:05:51

on how to go out and make

1:05:54

this city my home? Yeah? It's

1:05:56

really sigur it out. Get an only

1:05:58

fans page. It's the god

1:06:06

you'll have. Okay, Casey, Well

1:06:08

listen, Johnny. Actually

1:06:11

I think you could be good this because

1:06:14

when you go on location, you're you constantly

1:06:16

are forced to start a new existence

1:06:19

and figure out your way around you any tidbits

1:06:22

when you get to a new place, what do

1:06:24

you do when when you settle in for a

1:06:26

location. Donald, you just recently did

1:06:28

it with Jersey City as well. Have two

1:06:30

answers. I have two answers. First, I wanted to

1:06:32

revisit Emily's first question, and

1:06:35

I have. The way I do it around here

1:06:38

with the children is if you can make them feel

1:06:40

equally valued. And the way you work

1:06:42

backwards for making a child feel equally

1:06:44

valued is if you can say out

1:06:47

loud, I love you the most because,

1:06:50

and then there's an ellipsis, and for each

1:06:52

child if you can tell them why you love

1:06:54

them the most, and it's

1:06:56

an individuated package. So I love

1:06:59

you the most because you make me

1:07:01

laugh at night, you get best snuggles on

1:07:03

the planet. And then for the five

1:07:05

year old, I love you the most for

1:07:07

an entirely different reason because you're the greatest

1:07:09

storyteller and no one else can

1:07:12

touch some of the tales that you sell. And

1:07:14

for the baby, even though he or she can't

1:07:16

understand you, I love you the most

1:07:18

because and that, and then

1:07:20

people start to feel equally valued.

1:07:23

You're not going to be able to manipulate how they

1:07:25

feel and treat each other. That's

1:07:29

when they become individuals. Your

1:07:31

husband who has a ten year gap between his brother.

1:07:34

That's not the parent. The parents had nothing to do

1:07:36

with that. They're they're individuals. They get to feel

1:07:38

that way. But you can foster an environment

1:07:40

where people feel equally valued.

1:07:43

And that's huge if you could

1:07:45

just foster that. It's huge

1:07:47

in a tangible way, not in some

1:07:50

granola way, in a tangible way, and

1:07:52

as far as pandemic

1:07:54

notwithstanding. When I get to a new location, to

1:07:57

Zach's question, I'm a foodie

1:07:59

and I find a really nice,

1:08:02

nice grocery store, whether it's a mom

1:08:04

pod joint or or a Whole Foods,

1:08:06

and um, that's that's where I

1:08:08

start. I start. I don't talk to anybody anyway,

1:08:10

but I barely

1:08:13

talk to myself, and so a

1:08:16

grocery stores is where I start. I would think

1:08:18

you're gonna I think you're gonna have a leg up

1:08:20

because of the children. So I imagine the children

1:08:23

will be in a in a blore,

1:08:25

some sort of program for maybe are

1:08:27

there going to be in some school for ex pats.

1:08:30

I'm assuming yeah, yeah, so that

1:08:32

you're right. You're right, I'm gonna have to be friends

1:08:34

with all the other moms. That's yeah, No, I think it's a good

1:08:36

starting point for you to like. The school seems

1:08:38

like it will be a good a good hub

1:08:41

for you to get a quint and you know, and

1:08:43

they can give you the lowdown like, oh this is this

1:08:45

is a great place to take the kids, or this is

1:08:47

a great restaurant for you and your husband, all

1:08:49

that stuff. Donald, go ahead. I would I would don't

1:08:51

mention those restaurants in homebook. And again please yeah,

1:08:58

man, I'm trying

1:09:00

to listen. Man, you need to go to this one

1:09:03

restaurant in Hoboken. I can't really, I

1:09:05

spoke too much weed to remember the name I

1:09:07

got name or Johnny's

1:09:10

you in China? Right you in China in

1:09:12

a spot You in Shanghai, right a

1:09:15

spot on Malcolm

1:09:18

X Boulevard in China. Um,

1:09:24

you know, I usually start at the gym.

1:09:26

I'm gonna be honest with you. That's

1:09:29

the easiest way to make

1:09:31

friends, to be if you really want to make friends,

1:09:33

go to the gym. Somebody's gonna say something eventually.

1:09:36

They can't help it. Somebody's gonna be like, how

1:09:38

much a bench? Eventually. When I first moved

1:09:40

to I didn't know that the that

1:09:43

the Gold's Gym Hollywood

1:09:46

was considered a really gay

1:09:49

jim Um and I started

1:09:51

going there and everyone was so helpful

1:09:53

to me, and I just so awful

1:09:56

or awesome to you. They were so helpful. They remember

1:09:58

coming home to my girlfriend and being like, God, everyone

1:10:01

at this gym, they're all

1:10:03

healthy. Want one guy was like teaching me how to squat.

1:10:10

So, yeah, you can make lots of friends at

1:10:12

the gym. That's

1:10:18

exactly what I'm looking for. You're welcome, Thank

1:10:21

you, welcome. Yeah, we did it. I

1:10:23

mean, I don't know if you're going to get better

1:10:25

advice. I'm gonna be honest with you. You can search

1:10:28

all of Shanghai. Yeah,

1:10:31

I think we fixed your life. And and Emily,

1:10:33

thank you for coming on. We really appreciate you coming

1:10:35

on. Yeah. Thanks, and good

1:10:37

luck, good luck in the Shanghai. Thank you.

1:10:40

Thank well. He's safe. Be happy.

1:10:43

I'm kind of nervous for her, just all of a sudden,

1:10:45

being in Shanghai with all these kids, and she's

1:10:48

got to just start for scratch that that sounds intimidating.

1:10:51

Yeah, it seems like she's on our own too. It seems

1:10:53

like her husband has his way and knows what he's going

1:10:55

to be doing, but she's kind of in

1:10:58

the dark side of it. I think it sounds

1:11:00

like an amazing adventure, especially since the

1:11:03

Chinese have done such a better job with COVID,

1:11:05

and I think it's going to be

1:11:07

incredible. She was a bit cryptic about

1:11:10

what her husband was doing. I felt like he might

1:11:12

be a CI agent. Yeah, and I

1:11:14

say absolutely, Yeah, something sketchy was

1:11:16

going on with the husband because he She was

1:11:18

like, it's a job and it was last minute

1:11:20

and yeah, now we live here.

1:11:23

Yeah, and I

1:11:25

think a spy was transferred. God, Johnny, can

1:11:27

I tell you that when when Krista has this

1:11:29

super clean moment at the end of the

1:11:33

episode when she simply says I

1:11:35

missed Ben without any historyonics,

1:11:38

no, no trying to squeeze

1:11:40

the towel out, just she just

1:11:43

states it as a fact and she almost

1:11:45

throws it away and it is fantastic.

1:11:48

Yeah, Johnny, I was going to say something about

1:11:50

that because I thought she was gonna go

1:11:53

into a whole spiel

1:11:55

about it, and I was like, and when

1:11:57

she didn't do it, I was like, oh, thank god, Oh

1:12:00

wow, thank god. You know what I

1:12:02

mean, very simple, yeah,

1:12:05

yeah, oh thank god. And so when

1:12:08

that happened. That was a very powerful moment

1:12:10

for me also, you know, uh, and

1:12:12

and and it really you

1:12:15

know, my wife was just on the show, you

1:12:17

guys know how I am. I'm very all about

1:12:20

me and everything like that, and it was clear,

1:12:22

and it was so I was so happy for doctor

1:12:25

Cox also because now he's healing,

1:12:27

you know what I mean. The minute that he realized,

1:12:30

Okay, I'm hurting, but I'm not even

1:12:32

thinking about the woman

1:12:35

in my life who was related to this this

1:12:37

man, I'm not even thinking about her. And

1:12:39

I'm and and and I'm giving her

1:12:41

a hard time too, Like you have all

1:12:44

your friends here, get them the fuck out of here.

1:12:46

I'm having a hard time with all of this, you

1:12:48

know what I mean. And then when he realizes, oh,

1:12:51

she's hurting and that's why they're still

1:12:53

here. He can now heal,

1:12:56

and now he can help her heal, you know. Yeah,

1:12:59

And Bill puts this genius button at

1:13:01

the end of it. She says,

1:13:04

we have a chemical peel tomorrow. They

1:13:07

leave, and Chris, it just goes, no, we have a

1:13:09

chemical peel tomorrow. And it's

1:13:11

the loveliest button and she just again

1:13:14

she just plays it right down the

1:13:16

little it's a fact they can't leave. Yeah,

1:13:19

yeah, yeah, the chemical peel Tomorrow. We're not going

1:13:21

to cancel our chemical peel. I

1:13:26

thought it was the best non precious button

1:13:29

ever. Um, all right, I think we did

1:13:31

it, guys. I think that episode. I think we

1:13:33

successfully recapped the episode for

1:13:35

everybody. Johnny, it is so good to see you always.

1:13:38

I miss you. I'm jealous of

1:13:40

your biceps that I'm looking at right now. Dude,

1:13:43

you are in such great shape still.

1:13:45

Man, are you eating food or

1:13:47

are you like, are you like eating

1:13:50

anything that has salt or sugar in

1:13:52

it by any chance? Like the

1:13:54

body needs that. I know, not a lot of it, but

1:13:56

the body needs it. That's what you tell yourself

1:13:58

when you eat your donuts my right,

1:14:02

when I mean my Dunkin donuts. You absolutely

1:14:04

right, That's what I tell myself. Yeah, remember

1:14:08

the beginning of the podcast, you I

1:14:11

didn't. I just

1:14:15

saw. I gave it back because it was it

1:14:17

was the size. It was huge.

1:14:20

It was an industrial size donut making

1:14:22

for making. It was for like if you wanted to start

1:14:24

a donut company. Yes, it was like the size

1:14:27

of his dining room table. Yes, it's the funniest.

1:14:29

God, my mife was

1:14:31

like we're taking it back all right, everybody. Thank

1:14:33

you to our listeners for making us

1:14:36

the most downloaded new comedy

1:14:38

podcast of twenty twenty. We really yeah,

1:14:41

ship and uh and

1:14:43

Johnny, it's so great to always see you and we love

1:14:45

you. And now Donald will lead us

1:14:47

all in song. Here's

1:14:50

some stories about

1:14:52

a show we made or

1:14:54

do you want me to go into the goings

1:15:00

box six? Yeah, it ain't stories about

1:15:03

sure we made about

1:15:06

a bunch of docs and nurses and the

1:15:08

janitor who loved me. I said, he's

1:15:10

the stories never you all

1:15:13

should know. So

1:15:15

gada around you. Here are gathera

1:15:18

around you. Here are free

1:15:20

while shows at the time.

1:15:23

Mm hmmm

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