0:01

Eagle up in the sky.

0:04

J D and Turk just flew by.

0:07

Take a look, it's in this

0:09

pod. It's story time now,

0:13

you guys, Hello, I'm

0:15

your host today. It's very weird just

0:18

being here by myself in this room,

0:20

but I'm super excited because

0:23

I went on to Twitter and I asked you

0:25

guys, the fans, what

0:27

were your favorite stories from

0:29

the podcast? And you guys hit me up with

0:31

a ton of stuff, so

0:33

many options for me to choose from, and so I

0:36

decided that perhaps one

0:38

story time wasn't gonna be enough.

0:41

We were gonna need multiple because there

0:43

are so many different types of stories. Is

0:45

that you know? The stories we're gonna do today

0:48

are about our beginnings, the

0:50

early times from a lot of our

0:52

guests as they were just breaking into the industry.

0:55

We get a ton of letters from

0:57

you guys who are aspiring actors,

0:59

direct dir's writers, sort of photographers,

1:02

animators, and so I

1:04

kind of wanted to revisit because I remember

1:06

when I first got to l A and I was trying to figure

1:08

out what am I gonna do? How am I

1:10

going to make it out here? It's so expensive,

1:13

I have only my college experience.

1:16

Who will hire me, and it was so hard

1:18

just trying to figure out like how to break

1:21

in. And I think for me,

1:23

hearing the stories of people who had already

1:25

done it is what continuously encouraged

1:28

me to go after my dreams. And

1:31

getting to listen to these guys and Sarah

1:33

Chalk obviously Zack and Donald

1:36

Johnny C Like, there's rich

1:39

stories of just survival,

1:42

of situational comedy,

1:44

of bonding and love. And I think that's what

1:46

we're really going to discover today as we

1:48

go back to some of these really early stories.

1:51

So stay tuned and

1:53

let's hear a couple of stories. Five,

1:55

six, seven, eight, here's

2:02

some stories about

2:04

show we made. Doctor

2:08

Nurses story

2:17

are so

2:26

First up, we have a story from Johnny

2:28

C. This is all the way

2:31

back in season one, episode

2:33

sixteen. Um Johnny

2:35

came and talked to us a lot about

2:38

what happened around nine eleven the

2:40

Macy's Day Parade, the first gathering

2:43

that was allowed in New York City post

2:45

the attacks. Um, and

2:47

he gives us such beautiful,

2:50

wonderful, loving insight

2:53

to how a lot of the emotions

2:55

are played throughout scrubs and why

2:57

downplaying can sometimes be the

3:00

us thing for an actor or a writer to

3:02

do if they want to impact their audience, because

3:04

it feels more authentic and real.

3:06

Something that strikes me about Johnny C every time he's

3:08

on the podcast is how much he cares

3:11

about this art and his craft. If

3:13

you haven't listened to one sixteen in a while, I highly recommend

3:15

you go back. It's an excellent episode.

3:18

There were many stories to pick from,

3:20

but it couldn't resist hearing Zack

3:22

talk about his nephew throwing

3:24

gang signs one more time. So

3:26

stay tuned for john C. Here we go. We

3:29

should start right off because I have some ideas.

3:33

Go ahead, Johnny, go ahead, because

3:36

you have You guys have to grind this. And I'm so

3:38

excited that some things occurred

3:40

to me while I was watching this thing. I

3:43

love when you come on, you know why, because you come

3:45

prepared. You're like you're as prepared

3:47

as Donald and I. You're like, you're wound up. Well

3:50

I am. I think. Look going

3:52

back and watching this, first of all, it's

3:55

hard not to feel

3:57

really proud of it. Yeah,

3:59

and this one I thought deserved

4:01

from backdrop because the one last Week one

4:05

is a spectacular episode. Zach, you're particularly

4:07

great in that episode with Sarah and

4:09

then the monologues with the shrink, let the whole

4:11

ensemble just shine. And

4:14

I busted my ass

4:16

on those monologues because the writing was

4:19

astonished and you noticed there's no cuts. I

4:21

mean, we were clearly all told that they

4:24

yeah, they were, especially since

4:27

Donald knew it. So we were clearly all

4:29

told that there would be no cuts.

4:31

But what I thought was really interesting and maybe

4:34

interesting for people listening is

4:37

a little bit of context. And what I mean

4:39

is because in this episode,

4:41

it's it became clear to me just how jelled

4:44

the ensemble is. Whether it's Kenny

4:46

and Judy, You and me, Zachie,

4:49

Donald and Sarah, the thing is

4:51

just water tight. And the

4:53

reason is because I

4:56

think now, as we discussed already, nine eleven

4:58

had already occurred, were around about the middle

5:00

of December here, and

5:03

so what happened in New

5:05

York, which I'll circle this back, was

5:08

the New York Yankees lost the World Series

5:10

in seven games to the Arizona Diamondbacks.

5:13

And the only reason that's relevant

5:15

is because they lost. There was

5:17

no ticker Tape parade in New York

5:19

City, so we

5:21

were invited to the Thanksgiving parade

5:24

in New York City, and it

5:26

was the first taste of real rock

5:28

star for all of us because we worked till Wednesday

5:31

night until about and

5:34

this was a week or two before this episode,

5:36

and then we were whisked off to

5:39

l a X where we occupied

5:41

the entire front of first

5:43

class. There was only one other person. There

5:46

were only one other that's right, and

5:48

it was a It was a boy band. It was like,

5:50

uh, oh Town or something like that. We shared

5:52

first class. It was the cast of Scrubs

5:55

and Oh Town. I remember. It might as

5:57

well have been a private plane it wasn't, but it was first

6:00

las. It wasn't coach, it was first It wasn't

6:02

business class, it was first class.

6:04

And we were going to New York to participate in

6:06

the Thanksgiving Day parade. Now remember

6:08

there had been no mass gatherings

6:10

allowed in New York since

6:13

that Tuesday morning in September. There's just

6:16

wasn't allowed. The Yankees were supposed to be there, but

6:18

they weren't. So we fly overnight,

6:21

and you guys can chime in, but we fly overnight,

6:23

we go, we're deposited at some chapel

6:26

on the Upper West Side somewhere. We didn't even

6:28

go to the hotel. We just they dropped us

6:30

off at the freaking parade.

6:32

We were like lying on the on the ground in the chapel

6:35

too, And

6:37

we got sideways on the plane.

6:40

Yeah, sideways

6:43

as you do. And

6:46

and then we we got up and Zachie,

6:48

I think you brought your nephew onto

6:50

the float and

6:52

it was a quasi racist kind of

6:54

Pocahona's float um

6:57

and he did, They've gotten, They've

6:59

got and ridden some of those since then, I think, yeah,

7:01

But I absolutely I think our well, here's

7:04

the Scrubs cast and a quasi racist Pocahona's

7:07

float on the upper west side in the staging

7:09

area. And who pulls up behind us

7:11

but the Wiggles in the big red car.

7:14

Now I had gone to Wiggles concerts

7:17

with my son every time

7:19

they're in Los Angeles for the last couple of years.

7:21

I was eating, sleeping, and drinking

7:23

the Wiggles. So I got off the float

7:25

and I went back to the big Red car and introduced

7:27

myself to Murray and Jeff, and I introduced

7:29

myself to everybody, and I became

7:32

friends with the Wiggles, and I am

7:34

to this day. Do you hang out with the Wiggles.

7:36

Still not really, but I did a

7:38

video for them, and I they

7:41

became my friends. There. My memory

7:43

started interrupt one second, Johnny. My memory is

7:45

that my nephew was a very outspoken

7:49

kid and not shy at all. And

7:51

I don't know how old he was, but he was little, and

7:53

we wanted to be like nine, dude, no younger

7:56

and younger younger. Here's a little kid, And

7:58

so Al Roke we're off the flow at one point

8:00

and Al Roker's interviewing us, and he goes, and I'm

8:02

here with the cast of Scrubs and I've got Johnny

8:04

c McGinley and Donald Fazon is going around introducing

8:07

the whole cast and my nephen live

8:09

television. And my nephew goes, what

8:11

about me? And

8:15

Al Roker? It's awkward, and Al Roker

8:18

ignores him and starts so tell us about

8:20

the show. Guy interrupts him

8:22

again, what about me?

8:26

And finally Al feels bad enough

8:28

that he's like, oh, I'm sorry, young man,

8:30

you're right, and what's your name? And then he introduces

8:33

himself. But I was like, it was my first throwing

8:35

gang signs to like he

8:38

didn't he didn't, he didn't know any like real

8:40

gang signs, but he had seen on TV how

8:42

how how rappers and whomever throw gang

8:45

signs. So we're on the float and he's like throwing

8:47

these like almost gang

8:49

signs. When I when

8:51

I spoke to Al Roker after

8:54

after he cut, I said, how

8:56

how is this for a turnout? And he said,

8:58

this will be the largest and out in the history of the Macy's

9:01

Thanksgiving Day parade. And I said, well, give me an estimate,

9:03

and he said, they'll be about three and a half million people here.

9:05

And so every time we went through an intersection,

9:08

and I'll wrap the story up in a minute, but every time

9:10

we went down an intersection, you

9:12

could see it was a hundred to two

9:15

hundred people deep at every intersection.

9:17

I've never seen that many people. I never

9:20

will in my life. Yeah, it was that

9:22

was. I remember being like, wow, there are so many

9:24

people here, and we were on the float

9:27

and every You're right, every time we passed

9:29

an intersection it looked like it went

9:32

so deep into the intersection.

9:34

I remember thinking, how are all of these people?

9:36

It was like sardines too, like

9:39

they were packed together because nobody

9:41

had been allowed nobody had been allowed to

9:43

gather since that Tuesday. And the

9:46

other thing I remember is that my nephew was was

9:48

on the float and he I thought, oh, this will be fun

9:50

for him. He was he was bored in thirty seconds,

9:52

right, and I was like, oh funk, I gotta take care of

9:54

this kid for a whole parade. Yeah, we had

9:56

to. It's all the way from Uptown, all the way

9:58

to Macy and he's thrown to stay gang signs

10:01

for a while. And then he got bored of that. And then

10:03

there was like an upstairs in the float. I don't know if

10:05

it was like it was like in Pocahona's

10:07

head or something. Well know, it was a multi tiered

10:09

ship that yeah,

10:11

but even like in the in the in the non

10:14

outside area, there was some spot he found

10:16

and then he went up there and he found bubble wrap and I

10:18

was like, okay, fucking bubble wrap will entertain him

10:20

for a little while. Then he got over the but he

10:22

was stopping on the bubble wrap and I was like,

10:25

this is I'm never having kids, this is like the worst.

10:29

What about my My only point

10:31

bringing this up and I'll

10:33

circle it back, was that. And also

10:36

remember a couple of weeks earlier,

10:38

actually about a month earlier, we had been

10:40

picked up for the back nine, and

10:42

we ran around the hospital with their HUDs cut off,

10:45

and so that meant you had paychecks

10:47

until May the first week

10:50

of right or so, because in TV you only

10:52

get paid for episodes produced, and

10:54

so they just you know, it just let's explain to

10:57

people who don't know the show was

10:59

was picked up for the first thirteen episodes,

11:02

and they kind of see how you do in the ratings, and

11:04

then if you do well enough in the ratings, you get

11:06

the rest of the order, which which is in

11:09

in in in business talk is called the back nine,

11:11

meaning you get the get nine more episodes.

11:14

And we have been given that news about a month

11:16

earlier, and we ran around the hospital like we've

11:18

won the Stanley Cuppers, I remember. And

11:22

my only point in this is that between getting

11:24

picked up and now about fifteen or

11:26

sixteen episodes into it, and I can see

11:28

it in this episode as well discuss

11:32

but the ensemble is water tight, whether

11:34

it meant going on a trip together or getting

11:36

picked up, people are starting to vibe

11:39

off each other. And it's as clear

11:41

as day when I was watching it. It's just what

11:43

Donald and Sarah are doing as

11:46

you guys know. I think the camera is an X ray machine

11:48

and it sees through all the bullshit and

11:51

what they're doing together, there's zero

11:53

bullshit. And what Zak is doing at the

11:55

end with Sarah in that in that

11:58

on that cot, there's no bullshit.

12:01

It's it's just tight and

12:03

right. And I just got a chill. It just

12:05

it really got me. You gave me a chill

12:07

too, because I gotta tell I didn't remember in

12:10

that scene with Sarah what happened. I didn't know if it

12:12

was going to turn romantic. I didn't know if I cried.

12:14

I couldn't remember. And I

12:17

was actually moved by the two of

12:19

us because nothing happens like I

12:21

agree, I agree like

12:23

like you, like would happen in real life. You

12:25

know, in the movies, we'd kiss. In the movies,

12:28

I break down and cry, but in real life

12:30

two friends might just sit there in silence for

12:32

a minute. And I just thought that was beautifully done.

12:34

I think it's the real privilege of friendship

12:36

when nothing does happen so

12:39

that I don't have to demonstrate to you anything

12:42

and you don't have to demonstrate anything to me,

12:44

And real friendship is when stuff is allowed,

12:47

and it's a tricky verb to settle,

12:50

and you guys let it settle in front of the lens

12:52

and as well discussed Will mackenzie.

12:54

He just let the scene play and the two actors.

12:57

It's really lovely and on a prime time

13:00

comedy, it's spectacular. It's

13:02

spectacular. Now

13:04

we've been greased by the presence of many stars

13:07

one scot Folly, Heather

13:09

Graham has been on the show. No shortage

13:12

of a list celebrities. But there's

13:14

something extra special when Terror Reid showed

13:16

up, and that's because she went to high school

13:19

with Donald. So we got to hear about Donald's

13:21

first encounter with Moonshine,

13:24

a shootout at his first apartment in l

13:26

a and what happens when you fall asleep

13:28

on the set of Clueless. Here's Terry

13:30

Read telling us all of Donald's juicy

13:33

gossip. I believe

13:35

that, I believe. Yeah, I

13:37

remember three things in my life that

13:39

are very important in my life and you're

13:42

part of two of them. Right before you go into

13:44

this, because this is gonna be juicy, that's a tease

13:46

for the audience. We're gonna say a quick break and we'll

13:48

be right back with the terror

13:50

read

14:00

two things in my life, two things in my life

14:02

that are really big moments in my life and important

14:05

moments in my life, and Tara is a part

14:07

of it. My first time ever falling asleep

14:09

on set was on the Clueless set,

14:12

right, fell asleep and we were doing the party

14:14

scene, show the movie the

14:16

movie, And to fall asleep

14:18

on a set you gotta be really brave.

14:21

But maybe I wasn't in Clueless. I

14:23

know you weren't in Clueless, but you showed up at the party

14:25

scene. Yes, yes, yes,

14:28

yes, yes, remember up.

14:32

So I'm sleeping on a freaking like

14:34

a chair and we're shooting the movie

14:37

and somebody said should wake up?

14:39

And I opened my eyes and Tara

14:42

standing in front of me, standing over me, and

14:44

I'm like, what the funk are you doing here? And I

14:47

was like, holy shit, right and and

14:50

it was a big moment for me because it takes it. You

14:52

gotta have trust to fall asleep on a set, first of all,

14:54

because people will fun with you

14:56

one too. It was a big

14:58

moment because it was it was my big break and it

15:01

was a huge movie and I knew at this

15:03

point, I didn't know it was gonna be huge,

15:05

But I knew that I was in Los Angeles and I made

15:07

it, and my one friend that had made it in

15:09

Los Angeles is waking me up

15:12

on set, and I was like, holy ship, this is serendipitous.

15:14

This is this has to be this

15:16

is this has to be uh, this

15:18

has to be fat. And she's

15:21

going to give me some of that big Lebowski juice,

15:24

some of that juice, some of that, some of that, some of

15:26

that, some of that. Can I tell him? Can I

15:28

tell him the story about being in your apartment

15:31

when with the gun shooting? Oh

15:33

God,

15:36

So I go over to me, like

15:38

Donald, let me go to his house. And it's just

15:40

me and Hammer hanging out. It's more than just

15:43

me and you. It's me, you and some

15:45

of the casts from the Mickey Mouse Club. Like

15:47

I don't know how it turned out to be this. We were

15:49

hanging out with like Chase Hampton and Damon

15:51

from the Mickey Mouse Club and it was like those

15:55

two and a couple of other people and were

15:57

at my house in Hollywood and I had just moved

16:00

all famous actors at the time. I

16:02

just moved to Los Angeles. Let her tell

16:04

the story, don't hijack it, all right, go ahead, Tara. So

16:07

we go to his house and we're hanging out and we're

16:09

all having fun, and then all of a sudden

16:12

and Nora in

16:15

front of his house and and Don

16:17

was like duck. We're

16:20

all laying on the ground like like

16:22

it was the scariest we've ever seen. And

16:24

all of a sudden he knew what to do. He's like duck, lay in the

16:26

ground. And then all of a sudden, after the shots,

16:29

he's crawling like towards the window

16:31

to peek through because we didn't know it

16:33

was right in front of his building. So we're

16:35

peeking through if they're gone or not, you know. And and

16:38

we after that we laid on the floor and

16:40

all of us laughed so hard because we couldn't

16:42

believe what just happened. They

16:45

were still alive, all right.

16:47

She left a couple of parts out tower.

16:50

So we're hanging out and somebody goes, yo,

16:52

this is a really dangerous neighborhood. I'm like, get

16:54

the funk out of here. This is not a dangerous neighborhood. I'm

16:56

from a dangerous neighborhood. This isn't a dangerous

16:58

I'm from Hell's kitchen. I'm from right up

17:00

from Hell's kitchen. Everybody

17:04

get down. So we get on the ground. And now I'm

17:06

on the ground and I'm looking at Tara, and

17:08

Tara's bawling, crying, and I'm like, oh god,

17:10

oh God, oh god, Tarver brought

17:14

over to my house. She's probably got shot or

17:16

some ship like that. She's gonna die. That

17:19

everything calms down, we all get up and we're

17:21

looking around and I'm like, yeah, that was

17:23

the funniest ever. I just said

17:26

that this wasn't a scary neighborhood, that this was

17:28

Hell's kitchen, and out of nowhere, and

17:30

then right as I said, out of nowhere, once again,

17:32

retaliation comes more.

17:36

Oh it was crazy, but we jumped to the ground

17:38

again, right, And now I'm laughing. I'm

17:41

laughing so hard, right,

17:43

I'm stoned out of my mind and I'm freaking

17:46

laughing at gunshots outside my window.

17:48

Dude, Uh yeah, laughing so

17:50

hard that this the story doesn't

17:53

have uh climactic ending

17:55

other than the fact that we survived. The

17:58

climactic ending is that you survived to drive

18:01

by and you didn't get tar red killed, and

18:03

I didn't. I got it to get tied wasn't

18:05

there a story you told me once Donald where you

18:08

you went over Terra's house and had

18:10

the moonshine for the first time. Yes.

18:14

Story. So we were in high school

18:17

and it was Tara's Tara was sixteen.

18:19

It was her sweet six team, and I guess I was

18:21

a senior, and She's like, Yo, come

18:23

to my house in Jersey. I'm throwing a

18:25

party and all my friends from Jersey

18:27

gonna be there. And like I said,

18:30

Tara and I were close in high school,

18:32

so there was like me, her and then well

18:35

it was Jamal

18:37

it was It wasn't Terence Howard. It was Jamal. Yeah,

18:41

my buddy Jamal and one other person.

18:43

We go over to Terra's house and so we

18:46

get there and Tara was like, dude, you're not gonna

18:48

believe this, but I got a keg and I was like, you gotta fucking

18:50

keg. She was like, I gotta alright.

18:53

Feels like it's just like the classic Jersey

18:56

I grew up in Jersey too, obviously. It's like it's

18:58

like membering teen Wolf when he that goes through all the

19:00

trouble to get the keg and

19:04

then yeah, and then he puts in the room and there's all those

19:06

kegs. Yeah anyway, yeah, I

19:08

get there. I get there and I'm like, holy ship, she got a

19:11

keg. Right. She taps

19:13

the keg and we're all drinking it. Right,

19:15

We're all drinking, and she

19:17

goes, yo, you want to try something different, and I was

19:19

like, in my mind, I'm like, oh God, this is where it all

19:21

goes bad to go. I want to try to drink

19:24

something different. I was like, yeah, sure. She goes coming me. She

19:26

takes me in the kitchen and then the kitchen there's this big

19:29

vat and she's like, it's moonshine. What

19:32

She's like, it's moonshine My dad made this. And

19:35

I was like, get the funk out of here. She was like yeah, And

19:37

so I look at him. It's like clear with like celery.

19:39

It looked like floating. I

19:42

was like, okay, I'll try

19:45

it. And I try it and

19:47

I sip and I'm telling you, I'm tell you something right

19:50

now. After I sipped, I don't remember

19:52

much of what happened to the rest

19:54

of the time. I remember

19:57

Taras showing us. I remember you doing your

20:00

a school cheerleading stuff in front

20:02

of all of us to show us that I remember

20:04

that. I remember falling asleep on the floor,

20:07

uh, and waking up the next morning

20:09

and taking the bus or trying one of those things

20:11

back to Manhattan. But it

20:14

was my first time and and my only time ever

20:16

trying first. It

20:21

got me. It got All I know is I don't remember much.

20:23

I just remember falling asleep on the floor. It's

20:25

like those things. It's like when you watch movies and

20:27

it's like, you know, it shows you

20:29

moments in a person's life as they're

20:31

watching it flash before their eyes and it blacks

20:34

out, and then it comes back and it's something different, and

20:36

then it blacks out and then it comes back and it's something different.

20:38

I have two memories. One of them is Tarry doing

20:41

going like rah rah, and

20:45

then the other and then the other one

20:48

is passing out on the floor, looking over

20:50

and seeing everybody on the floor knocked out and then

20:52

just passing out. Yeah. This is called a

20:55

young teenage boy tries moonshine for

20:57

the first time. Great

21:00

it was. It was one

21:02

of my most memorable moments. Tara Reid has

21:04

a few of them. One more time

21:06

for the Fact List, Terry read, sometimes

21:11

when we don't have guests the guys, as

21:13

you know as a loyal listener,

21:16

I have just moments that

21:18

are beyond the pale, moments

21:21

that really illuminate who they are as individuals,

21:25

what makes their friendship click, what

21:27

makes them shine as individuals. And

21:29

we got a great request to

21:32

see we listen

21:34

to Donald and Zach talking about

21:37

their encounters with Mariah Carey. To

21:39

be honest, I totally forgot about

21:42

this story. I'm so glad someone suggested

21:44

it. I just

21:46

listen, just listen, It's great. Yeah,

21:50

what what song would you put on to cry? If

21:52

I if I had to put on a song? Oh? Man, you

21:54

want to know what song? It is the score from

21:56

Bamby. It's about your people to the

21:58

Prince of Egypt. Whitney

22:01

Houston and Mariah carry There

22:03

can be miracles if

22:06

you believe the hope

22:09

is from It's hard

22:11

to kill. Come on now, who

22:14

knows what miracles you

22:21

when you believe somehow

22:24

you will Joe, Well, you're about to cry

22:26

right now. I think this is full

22:29

talent show. It's the most beautiful song maybe

22:31

I've heard. Yeah, listen, man, it's

22:33

about first of all the songs about when

22:37

Pharaoh's chasing the Jewish

22:39

people out of Egypt. It's

22:41

about that is it's about the story of Moses.

22:45

It goes all the way through, it goes all

22:47

the way through. It's

22:50

him going all the way through to him coming down from

22:53

the mountain with the tin commandments. Uh

22:56

in in the ark. Oh

22:58

no, he has him in his hands. I think at this at the commandment

23:02

remember from the what was it? The is

23:04

it? The history of Earth? These commandments?

23:17

But the song is amazing,

23:19

man, And you know it's you know,

23:21

so that's when you would put on that's

23:24

that song. It's if you ever need to

23:26

cry, whether it be, it's

23:28

just such a hopeful song, you know what I mean. We've

23:31

spent this whole, this whole

23:34

I know we're jumping off topic and everything like

23:36

that. We've spent this whole time. You know. Amanda

23:38

clutes Is, you know, has delivered

23:42

a lot of hope to people in this world,

23:44

you know what I mean. Her faith and her belief

23:47

really helped a lot of people when

23:50

Nick was sick. And you

23:53

know, for some reason, when when you have

23:55

all of that faith and you have all of that

23:58

love, it overwhelms you. Man. And

24:00

so listening to a song like

24:02

that, listening to there

24:04

can be me every cos when you

24:07

believe, it just overflow.

24:09

You just overflow with hope

24:11

and joy and and it just works,

24:13

you know what I mean. That's beautiful And now I

24:15

got listen to it. I've never seen the movie. I've never heard the

24:17

song. I'm sorry, did you get the opportunity to check it out?

24:20

There's a lot of really good voiceover

24:23

performances it

24:28

was, but that song. First

24:30

of all, it was Mariah Carey and Whitney

24:33

Houston singing it. And I don't know if you were big

24:35

Mariah Carry or Whitney Houston fans. I'm

24:37

first of all, I think those are you know,

24:40

of my lifetime two of the uh,

24:43

the true versions of what a diva is

24:45

as far as being able to sing. Had a Mariah

24:48

Carey interaction once, so did

24:50

I was one of the best nights of my life. What was yours? Well,

24:52

mine wasn't like we've made out or anything. Your sound

24:55

Now we didn't make a no no, no, no, no no no imagine

24:57

yet it was totally awesome. No, we didn't make

25:00

I met her and Derek Jeter in the same night.

25:03

Wow, I

25:06

was peeing on a Mariah carry music video

25:09

called up on the roof. But you

25:11

can go watch on YouTube and

25:14

uh, and you mean rooftop? No,

25:17

it's called Oh was it is the song

25:19

up on the rooftop? I thought it was up on the roof. I

25:21

think it might be. Joel. Can you double check with her?

25:25

What's the one with her and Mob Deep? Well,

25:27

she doesn't have two songs, one called up on the roof and on

25:30

the roof top. It's either one I think it's roof,

25:32

one called the roof, yeah, with mob Deep

25:35

right, No, this is called

25:37

up on the mob Deep beat. I'm telling you it's

25:39

the Mob Deep beat. Told

25:44

you now, Joel, does she have one called up

25:46

on the roof? I will read

25:48

that too, because I remember that I had

25:50

to lug all this stuff up to the roof. It's

25:56

just the roof, all right. Well listen, I elevator

26:00

broke in this building in Brooklyn and all the p a s

26:02

had to lug all the gear up to the roof, and

26:05

I was like to help her up. Her next song is called

26:07

lobby Anyway,

26:16

I got you you being a

26:18

good dad? Could you have some really good dad jokes?

26:20

That I

26:24

am going to be a great dad, but not because of my jokes.

26:26

Just because I'm hilarious. Listen.

26:29

Before the elevator broke, I got in with Mariah

26:31

and her whole posse and I was just the p A

26:33

and I had a baseball hat and I looked away, like, you know, I

26:36

thought you were finding I was fresh out of Yeah.

26:39

I just thought you don't look at the star. I just look away.

26:42

And she was like, I like your baseball hat. It was

26:44

my favorite baseball hat. And I was like, oh,

26:46

thank you, thank you, like not making eye contact, like

26:48

bobbing my head, and she

26:50

was like, I might want to wear that in the video. And

26:53

I was like, oh okay, and she's

26:55

like to kind of borrow it, and I was like, oh yeah,

26:58

so her like ento, she took my baseball hat

27:01

and it had like a red circle on it, and

27:03

they came back to me and they were like, hey, we

27:06

want to darken the red circle with sharpie.

27:08

Is that okay? And I was like, oh, it's

27:10

kind of my favorite hat. But I don't want to let down

27:13

Mariah, let down the whole team. You know.

27:15

I just lugged everything up to the roof. I want the video

27:17

to be good, you know, this is what I was thinking.

27:20

And they're like, we'll give you forty dollars if

27:22

you'll let us darken the red circle with sharpie.

27:25

And I was like, I didn't have any money. I was

27:27

probably making a hundred bucks to be the p

27:30

A. I was like, gonna, you know, increase my salary

27:32

substantially. So I was like, yeah, for

27:34

forty bucks, y'all can just go to nuts on it with a sharpie

27:36

and I'll just have a great story. So

27:39

that's what happened. And I don't even I watched

27:41

the video in twenty years,

27:43

but she's on the roof. I know

27:45

she's on the roof at any and if

27:48

at any point, I gotta see if at any

27:50

point, anyone, anyone, anyone who's curious,

27:52

just go watch the video and see if she's ever

27:54

wearing a black baseball cap, because that's mine.

27:58

I got forty bucks extra.

28:02

That was a hard shoot, Okay,

28:05

So by far, this was our most requested

28:08

story. It is the Jeff

28:11

Sucker noggie story from

28:13

the upfronts right after they shot

28:16

the pilot, where they go back

28:18

and remember the time that Tonald

28:21

gave a nuggie to the president of the production

28:24

company. Uh, not a great

28:26

look. Not a great look. But a

28:28

funny story that to this day, to

28:31

this day, it's

28:33

quoted in this lovely friendship

28:35

that we all get to be a part of because of Fake

28:38

Doctor's real friends. But what

28:40

I discovered upon re listening is there's also

28:42

like these really beautiful gems.

28:45

For example, I really like when Zex starts talking

28:47

about going back to the hotel room to rewatch

28:50

the pilot, which is of course such

28:52

a nerdy thing to do, but it's so sweet and innocent.

28:54

It's just look at this thing we made, and look, it's

28:57

here, and it's ours, and people are excited

28:59

to watch it. And I think if you're an artist,

29:01

in a person who creates anything

29:03

that they're going to share, whether that's you know, a

29:06

beautiful cake, you're a fun

29:08

T shirt or you know whatever, that's

29:11

the best part is like getting to give it to other

29:13

people and seeing their reactions. Um,

29:16

and of course celebrating with people who made it with

29:18

you. So please enjoy this early

29:21

story of early fame from

29:23

Zack and Donald. Donald.

29:26

You pointed out something very wise, and

29:29

that is that you know, when you do a pilot,

29:31

you shoot the pilot and then you have no

29:34

idea if the show is gonna get picked up, And

29:36

there's often a lot of time between when

29:38

you shot the pilot and then let's say

29:41

the network says, Okay, we're gonna make it a series,

29:43

and then you go and you you go to a thing

29:45

called the upfronts, which is when your show

29:48

is selected. You go to a huge party

29:50

in New York City where they announced

29:52

where the network is going to announce all of the

29:54

new shows. And this is a

29:56

very thrilling thing for a young actor, absolutely

29:59

and all. So when Scrubs

30:02

got picked up, it was considered

30:04

one of the better pilots of that

30:07

time. And so when we went to Upfront,

30:09

I remember all of the heat that we had

30:12

behind us at Upfront, Like even the

30:14

party for all of the upfront

30:16

shows was kind of themed towards

30:19

us, you know what I mean. And you

30:22

know, you get there and you and you and you meet

30:24

a bunch of executives for

30:26

the first time, and you don't really know

30:28

who they are, because nobody really knows executives

30:31

until you're on the network and somebody

30:33

tells you, Okay, that's my boss and that's

30:36

his boss, and that

30:38

reminds me of a wonderful story about you because

30:41

we were we were so first we go to the party

30:43

and it's this amazing party and it's you know, we were

30:45

just wide out. We couldn't believe we were here. I

30:48

mean, I was waiting tables a few months ago

30:50

and and uh, here

30:52

we are in New York at this giant party and you

30:55

have to you take pictures with a lot of people, and you know,

30:57

you're getting treated like a celebrity and you're

30:59

not only even knows who you are really yet,

31:01

at least especially in my case. And um,

31:04

and then then we go to this party and

31:06

there were celebrities at the party. I remember Kevin

31:08

Nelon, who I was a huge fan

31:11

of from SNL as an example. He was I

31:13

think literally might have been one of the first celebrities

31:15

I ever met, was Kevin Neilan at

31:17

this party, and I remember thinking like, oh my god, we're hanging

31:20

out with with celebrities, Like we've made

31:22

it. Yeah, you know. Sean

31:24

Hayes was another person who was a big champion,

31:27

like he loved the show, and it was really

31:30

awesome to have the dude from Will and Grace,

31:32

who at this point was really

31:34

famous on television. That show was snug

31:37

And do you remember any other stars that were at that party.

31:39

I remember. I just remember because I was such an SNL

31:41

fan as a kid that I was so geeked out that

31:43

that Kevin Nealon was there. I think there may have been some other older

31:46

SNL faces, but it

31:48

was it was all the a. It was like a

31:51

NBC rich at any anyone

31:53

who was on NBC at that time was

31:56

at at the party. Now we

31:58

proceeded, understandably to get

32:00

quite intoxicated at this party. I

32:03

remember Bill Lawrence saying, like, all right, guys, just so you

32:05

know, like don't like, you know, there's be a lot of

32:07

executives at this party, Like I understand your

32:09

New York your life's just changed, but like,

32:11

don't get ship faced to

32:14

all of us, all of us, all

32:17

of us. Sarah Chuck's

32:19

famous line, I mean, you guys ever heard of a Cosmopolitan?

32:23

Yeah, Sara, Sarah

32:25

stumbled up to a sideways and she's

32:27

like, have you guys ever heard of a Cosmopolitan?

32:31

They're great? And

32:33

then I remember cut for some reason at this bar.

32:36

Wasn't there like a trappiece like a

32:38

trapeze, but not a trapeze? What do you call that thing

32:40

where you swing on a trapeezels,

32:44

way too dangerous to bid a real trapeeze, but was

32:46

there. It was something like that. It was a bar

32:48

in the middle. It was like a bar. I think

32:50

he was on in the middle of the bar. It was in the meat

32:52

Paggy Street. I think it was called Park or something anyway,

32:55

and she was on. I remember her being on

32:57

the bar and flipping over and just showing

33:00

everybody, you know, what she

33:02

had on underneath that dress she

33:04

wore that day because

33:07

she was and I remember her husband at the time being like,

33:09

that's it, We're going home, to go home, let's

33:11

go. My favorite part of the night is Donald

33:14

was giving everyone noogies and

33:16

well, all right, let's let's go. Let me tell

33:18

the story and then you can clarify. Let me tell the Let's

33:21

start from the beginning, though, Let's start from the

33:23

very beginning. Okay. So Scott

33:26

Sassa was the dude that I thought was in charge

33:28

of all of NBC at the

33:30

time. I think he was higher up than

33:33

than Jeff Zucker, who we're going to talk

33:35

about. Jeff Zucker was the I believe,

33:37

the president of NBC who

33:40

is now actually now the president of CNN, but

33:43

at the time he was the president of NBC. He

33:45

had just come from whatever the Today

33:47

Show at the time, and then he gone

33:50

on to be the head

33:52

of NBC. And I didn't know this,

33:54

so Donald didn't know who he was. You're gonna ruin my story.

33:57

Donald didn't know who he was. I thought he was Scott

33:59

Sasson's that says it. And Donald was going

34:01

around giving everyone noggies. And I look

34:03

over and Donald has Jeff Zucker, the

34:05

president of the network, in a full

34:08

headlock, and he's giving him a

34:10

drunken noggie on his bald head.

34:13

And I hear Jeff Zucker, go, please

34:16

Donald, No, that's

34:23

okay. Entire friendship. Whenever

34:25

Donald like tells me a cringe e story that makes

34:28

me want to run away, I just tell him about

34:30

please Donald, no, Jeff Zucker. You

34:32

know, at this point, I'm giving everybody love because

34:34

I'm so excited that we're on the

34:36

network. It's going down, and I look over

34:39

and I see Jeff Zucker in

34:41

my mind, Scott Sass's assistant standing

34:44

over by the bar, uh, you

34:47

know, by himself, or he might

34:49

even have been with somebody, and I'm like, hey, you come

34:51

over here. I got nuggies to give out, and he's

34:53

like, he's like no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no. And

34:56

I point at him again and I'm like and I get a little

34:58

bit more, you know, grow about

35:00

it, and I'm like, no, you get over

35:02

here right now. And he's like no, no,

35:05

no, no no no. And so I marched

35:07

over to him, drunk as Kim. I've

35:10

seen you march when Donald marches his arms

35:12

swing and I walk

35:14

up to him and I grabbed him and I put him in the headlock, and

35:16

I'm like, don't you ever tell

35:18

me no? And I'm grabbing him and I'm giving

35:21

Jeff Zucker a nuggie. And I remember Bill

35:24

Lawrence like a few days later

35:26

being like, dude, Donald, I

35:29

just have to ask you if this actually

35:31

happened, but did you give

35:34

Jeff Zucker a noogie? I was like, I gave

35:36

so many people nuggies. I gave so many I

35:38

can't recall who who was. And

35:42

he was like, well, apparently you gave the head of

35:44

NBC a

35:46

noogie. And he's

35:49

not really happy about it. But he wasn't genuinely

35:51

piste off, was he. No. I don't think he was

35:53

genuinely piste off, but he stayed away from me here. I

35:56

remember remember he did come to

35:58

visit the set of the hospital and and he kind

36:00

of stayed away from you because he was, um,

36:03

yeah, that's very funny. Well what

36:05

else do you so? So then I remember that night ended

36:08

where we were in I wasn't there. You

36:10

were, this was you and Neelon, I wasn't

36:12

there. Almost almost

36:14

everybody ended up back in

36:16

Bill and Christa's hotel room, and

36:19

we it's kind of it's sweet

36:21

slash embarrassing. We were so geeked out. We were like, let's

36:23

watch our pilot. So we were like it

36:25

was like a whole bunch of people and Kevin Kneelin,

36:27

who I was a super fan of, and we

36:30

just were watching the show and I don't know, it's a sweet moment.

36:32

I remember being like just

36:34

thinking like I can't believe this is happening. But

36:37

then the funny thing is you have a long time

36:39

before you start shooting. So we made the show. It got

36:42

picked up. My mom freaked out that I was like that

36:44

I quit my waiting tables job. She was like, but what so

36:47

long we are you gonna do? And I was like, I, Mom,

36:49

I I I can live off

36:52

this pilot money for a long I was living so frugally

36:54

with no money that I was like, I can live off this pilot

36:57

money for a long time, so I'm

36:59

gonna write. And in that time is when I really

37:01

finally sat down and put Garden State

37:03

together and at my dining room table and

37:06

kind of look was like, this is a sign I

37:08

need to I have this time that the universe

37:11

gave me and I don't need to wait tables, and I'm gonna

37:13

sit down and like put this script together. That's

37:15

awesome. So this last

37:17

story is one I just wanted

37:19

to put in there for myself. Getting

37:22

to meet Sarah Chalk on the show has been an

37:24

incredible experience. She's everything

37:26

you hope she might be. She's kind and

37:29

truly so so funny, um

37:32

and generous, a very generous soul.

37:34

And you only need to know her for about five minutes

37:36

before you can see that. And

37:39

there's something really great about this trio

37:41

of Donald, Zach and Sarah. Their energy,

37:44

the way they lately poked fun

37:46

of each other, the way they pump

37:48

each other up to though, like there's not a lot of

37:50

tearing down in this friend group, and every

37:53

time we have them together. I just sort of want to

37:55

bask in the glow of their delicious conversation.

37:57

They are. They're kind of,

38:00

I think, the friends everybody wants to be and

38:02

or have, And so I wanted to stick this on

38:04

the end because, man, listening

38:07

to these guys talk about their early struggles

38:09

but also their early accomplishments,

38:11

but also how they stayed grounded, it's

38:14

a really fun journey. So here's

38:16

they're talking a little bit about the dressing

38:18

room situation at Scrubs

38:21

and Sacred Heart. So I hope you guys enjoy

38:23

it. We miss you.

38:28

We were taught. We've been talking about how we never see

38:30

you and we miss your face. I

38:33

miss you guys too. We got the band back together

38:36

on zoom. No, look at this, the band's back together.

38:38

Band is back together. We can't

38:40

do our handshake virtually Donald and make

38:43

zact jealous. He doesn't like jealous.

38:47

I never whenever people do those like epically

38:49

long handshakes, I I

38:52

frowned, but only because I I've never been involved

38:54

with one and I couldn't possibly remember it, So

38:56

maybe I'm just jealous. I have a very long

38:58

one with Sarah Chalk, and I have a very long

39:00

one with Breck and Meyer. Those are the

39:02

only two handshakes that I have in my life

39:05

where I'm like, Jesus is a longass hand shake.

39:07

Could you and Sarah get right back into it without

39:09

fault right now? You think, get

39:12

a girl running,

39:17

man, you get it. So

39:20

we were talking to the last episode about your your

39:23

epic. We were talking about

39:25

your your epic. Um I

39:27

told you so dance and how long it was? Oh

39:30

my god, that's so funny. People send

39:33

me that at different moments in my

39:35

life over social media. That was one of those

39:37

fun times on scrubs. Like, what a unique job when

39:39

you get to do this where Bill was just like the

39:42

line in the script that I told you so, and he said

39:44

instead of saying that, just make up like a song

39:47

and a dance. And I told you so a song and

39:49

dance. And so you know, it's

39:51

not frequently you have to do that on the job.

39:53

So it's fun. Well, do

39:55

you remember getting down into the splits, Yeah,

39:59

it's hard to get out of him. Remember getting down into

40:01

it and being like, and I'm stuff. I

40:05

was gonna say that. There's some video I think on one of the Gabriels

40:08

where people can watch on usually if you're if you're interested,

40:10

we're Sarry just kept going and going

40:12

and going with her. I Told you So dance and

40:15

they only could put a short piece

40:17

of it in the show, but it like it went

40:19

on for like a full minute. I think, oh

40:22

yeah, they didn't cut so I just kept going and then

40:24

um brought in some French and

40:27

German like I told you

40:29

So in German, which is yah to kept Kazakh

40:31

because obviously, after being tortured going to German

40:33

school twice a week for my entire upbringing,

40:36

anytime I can, you know, feel that it's

40:38

actually it's only

40:41

been useful in scrubs. That's the only time I've ever used

40:43

my German. Really would go to

40:45

international upfronts and stuff like that.

40:47

It was always when you do press, you must

40:49

be very popular with the French and German

40:52

press, I would think. Because Sarah is

40:54

fully trilingual, not

40:56

anymore. I was as a kid. French. I still

40:59

I I can speak, but after my grandmother died, we

41:01

don't really speak German anymore. So I've lost

41:03

so much of it. But I but

41:06

French I still has because

41:08

that was, you know, all day, everyday

41:10

school was in French, like math, science, pe

41:13

everything. I'm so jealous of people. I wish

41:15

multiple language. I wish I could speak multiple

41:17

languages. Men like I tried to get

41:20

the Rosetta stone and failed

41:23

at it, you know what I mean? But I failed at it.

41:25

No, you didn't fail at it. You just didn't commit

41:28

donald. That's that that that you know what,

41:30

that's a better way to look at it. That's a that's a that's

41:33

a better way to look at it. But you know, I probably

41:35

could have been grade at basketball if I dedicated

41:37

a lot of time to it. I mean, I'm not saying

41:40

I would have been like had natural super

41:42

skills, but I always think of it like like, you

41:44

know, it's what you dedicate time

41:46

and focus and energy to. You know what, You're

41:49

absolutely right, because I know a lot of people

41:51

who didn't play sports growing up

41:53

and put a lot of energy into sports

41:56

when they got older, meaning like

41:58

tennis or go all for something like

42:01

that, and now they are very

42:03

good at those sports, right I imagine. I

42:05

just I just want to clarify for yourself, for

42:08

your own psyche, that you could probably be

42:10

You could easily become bilingual if

42:12

you cared enough to if you dedicated

42:14

the hours you dedicate to animation. To

42:16

learn a language, I probably, I

42:19

probably would be fluent. What language would

42:21

you choose? What language? I could choose a

42:23

language that's interesting. I

42:25

would choose Spanish because, um, here

42:28

we are living in California, and it

42:31

feels like makes the most sense

42:34

to be able to speak with so many Spanish speakers

42:36

that are here. Yeah, Spanish is a

42:38

good one. Uh wow,

42:41

as probably a good one. Now

42:44

French is a good one. But if I could,

42:47

I would want to choose something that's like out

42:49

of the ordinary. Hebrew, I

42:52

would I would love to learn. That

42:55

would be great. Actually, oh my god, you speaking

42:57

Hebrew in Israel would be one of the one of the most

42:59

amazing things. Can you just do it? Please, We'll

43:02

do it together. We'll do it together. That

43:05

would be great. I mean, well,

43:07

Sarah, we were talking about just sports

43:10

stuff like that, learning sports and stuff. I

43:12

thought you wanted to say something. Go ahead, Oh

43:14

no, I just want to say two things. Um.

43:16

One that yes, Donald, pick

43:19

a language and absolutely master it. In terms

43:21

of languages, I kind of cheated because I was a kid, and

43:23

I feel as a kid, it's like it's just insert.

43:25

It's like a gift into your brain. It's so easy, and

43:27

as an adult and so much harder. But but

43:30

sports, I'm I'm living proof that

43:32

what Zach just said is not true about

43:35

you could play basketball and become

43:37

really good. I devoted so

43:39

much time in my youth to basketball. It's all

43:41

I wanted, and I wanted it's so bad. And I tried

43:43

out for the basketball team in grade five, grade

43:45

six, grade seven, I was at our neighbor's

43:47

hoop in the pouring rain in Canada, practicing

43:50

every day. And then try outs for

43:53

grade seven basketball came and I was like, this is my

43:55

year. The basketball came from across the court,

43:57

hit me square in the face and started

43:59

a serious of like crazy nose plays but lasted for

44:01

months until I got my nose cautter eyes. But anyways, um,

44:04

I kept trying out for the team, and I kept practicing,

44:06

and I take like camps and I would

44:08

I would try so hard. And finally, in grade ten,

44:12

and I was still the shortest kid in the class, I grew and I was

44:14

like really like eighteen or something,

44:17

so I uh, I finally

44:19

made the team. And Blake,

44:21

who you both met, who's my brother in law, was

44:24

two years older and was my coach and makes

44:26

fun of me till this day. And I made the team,

44:28

but I spent the whole time on the bench. But

44:30

I was like, I didn't care because I had a jersey

44:33

and I was on the team, and I was getting on the bus

44:35

with all of my buddies to go to the game, and that's all

44:37

I wanted. And we had a really good team. And they would

44:39

put me on the center forward as like a joke when we

44:41

were beating the other team, like seventy to four, and

44:45

I'd be like jumping, trying, like and

44:48

it was all effort, no skill, so trying so

44:50

hard and just yeah,

44:53

well, you know what, you made the team.

44:56

So all of that practice paid off

44:59

and you got to run up and down a couple of for

45:01

a couple of minutes during every game that

45:03

year. I'm sure I don't think a lot of people

45:06

say, and I'm including myself

45:08

on this, like oh I suck at that, Oh I suck

45:10

at that. Oh I can't cook, Oh I can't drive

45:12

a motorcycle. Oh I can't play basketball, And

45:14

it's like, no, well, maybe you're not amazing

45:17

at it, but you never dedicated any fucking

45:19

time to trying. Right, Well, there is

45:21

that, there is there is

45:23

that. There is that. Like I say all

45:25

the time, I can't write. And

45:28

I'm gonna be honest with you. I can imagine

45:31

so much, and I can and I

45:33

can and I can come up with so many

45:35

stories. You know what I've never done, No, you

45:37

know what, I've never practiced trying to

45:40

write it into trying

45:42

to write it down. I've always worked well,

45:45

I've got this idea and somebody's like, oh,

45:47

you should write it down, and I'm like, oh, no, I'm

45:49

not a writer. How would I ever know

45:52

if I don't sit down and I put the

45:54

pen to pad. Of course, just to just imagine

45:56

something you love, like in your case, would be animation

45:58

or basketball, or of imagine

46:01

all those hours you had been in a writing

46:03

class, right, you know you'd

46:05

probably be a amazing writer, right or

46:08

or or or practicing, not just sitting in a class.

46:11

It's like you said, I would

46:13

learn how to write. That doesn't necessarily mean I'd

46:15

be a great writer. I might not be great at it,

46:18

but I would be able to understand structure

46:20

and I would understand you know, how

46:23

to tell us. You would still get

46:25

way better. You would get way better even if

46:27

no matter where you're starting it, will you become of the greatest

46:30

writers of all time. No, but if you but you'd be,

46:32

you'd I guarantee you, with practice

46:34

you'd be you'd be pretty darn good.

46:37

I feel like, you know, you get you get put in a box

46:39

as a kid of the things you can and can't

46:42

do so early. And you know, for me,

46:44

that was singing. I was in grade five and Mrs

46:46

McKinnon was like, chalk girls, just mouth

46:49

the words for this performance to my sister

46:51

and I when we were singing Christmas carols in a mall

46:53

for like some school, not a fancy choir, like a school

46:55

choir. And I feel like it was like that

46:58

moment where I love nothing more than

47:00

musical theater and was

47:02

doing musical theater after school, and

47:04

it just completely shut

47:07

me down and put me in this box of like, oh, that's something

47:09

that I can't do, so I stopped working at it and

47:11

learning and trying. And

47:13

who knows where you would have gotten if you

47:15

would have kept going, You could have been at

47:17

epine. Well

47:21

you think it's you think. I remember a kid

47:23

I went to school with could not really sing

47:25

that well. He could barely hold a tune, you

47:28

know what I mean. But he could play

47:30

the piano really really well right

47:32

when he graduated. He's gone

47:35

on now to write

47:37

songs. He performs all the time.

47:39

He's an amazing artist,

47:43

you know what I mean. But I remember

47:45

when he couldn't sing. He could sing his ass

47:47

off, now, you know what I mean. My

47:49

little brother, Allow me day when he was in a band

47:52

called Imagine. When he auditioned for the band

47:54

Imagine, he uh, he

47:57

sang show tunes because that's all he knew. I

47:59

think it's all edition was something like, you know, the song

48:02

of Peter I Won't Grow Up

48:05

Mad. No. I

48:08

think that was his audition for the band,

48:11

and they were like, well, the kid can the kid can

48:13

hold a tune. Let's see if we can work with him. Now,

48:15

my little brother, he has music that he

48:17

works on all the time and he tries to get it

48:19

out and he's you know, he's doing his

48:22

thing as a musician, and he's a very

48:24

good singer and he sings, if you ask me, he sings

48:26

better than a lot of his motherfucker's out right now. But that's

48:28

just how do we how do we hear his music?

48:32

Yeah, we'll we'll shout him out at your old hommy

48:34

day. Why oh oh

48:40

l A M I d E. I think

48:42

that's it, I, you know, to be honest

48:44

with you, I wasn't expecting to shout him out like that, but

48:47

I think that's his handle on Instagram. Uh,

48:52

we'll fix it if it's not. Anyway, he

48:55

worked really hard to get where he was, so I

48:57

understand. I understand the premise.

48:59

That doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna be the

49:02

greatest. I'm just saying. I'm just

49:04

saying. An epiphany I had in my own

49:06

life, you know, in my in my twenties,

49:09

was you know, stop saying you suck

49:11

at X, Y and Z and not. It's not that

49:13

you don't, but it's because you haven't dedicated any

49:15

interest. And it comes at any time, and it becomes

49:18

it comes with interest. So the things that we're all

49:20

interested in in our own lives, our

49:22

own hobbies and things outside of being

49:24

an actor, will dedicate countless

49:26

hours too. For me, one of my hobbies

49:29

is photography. I will be online

49:31

looking at cameras and playing with new cameras,

49:34

you know, for endless hours. Now I

49:36

could be dedicating at time to something else

49:38

and get quite good at that thing. So it's

49:40

just foolish just say like, oh I suck

49:43

at that. You might, but it's it's not because you you

49:45

you it's in your bones. It's because you didn't

49:47

dedicate any commitment to time. That's

49:49

all I'm right, age and

49:52

and and that also goes for learning lines also,

49:55

yes, just putt yeah.

49:57

Donald always used to say, and always does

49:59

say, oh I can't to learn lines. That's bullshit. You were sucking

50:01

high watching basketball. That was That

50:04

was honest. That's the honest to goodness

50:06

truth. And when I stopped doing all

50:08

of that, I found that learning lines

50:10

was actually very easy to do. When

50:13

you just look, if you can't learn

50:15

it in two hours, there's something wrong, you

50:17

know what I mean? You should really think about

50:20

finding other exercises to do when

50:22

it comes to line learning. That is, it's just a matter

50:24

of practice for me. I

50:27

miss you guys too, and

50:29

you guys have been keeping me entertained and happy.

50:32

Are you really listening because we had to prove that.

50:34

I don't know if you heard the episode with Randall, but he tried to

50:36

act like he was listening and then he said three to one

50:38

and he got out in three.

50:41

No, I've been listening. I've I haven't heard

50:43

all of them. I've heard a bunch of them, and it's making me

50:46

so happy. And I can't believe how much you guys

50:48

remember. And it's so fun to just, especially

50:50

in a time like this, like go back into

50:53

that go back into that headspace.

50:55

And we had I just we had so much fun. We had

50:57

so many fucking laughs and I, um,

51:00

yeah, all of it. Like Donald

51:02

singing Stafford and Son. The other day, Um,

51:06

you know what it is, Well,

51:08

you know what it is. I was hanging out with Paul Rudd

51:10

and Alicia Silverstone and Breck and Meyer doing

51:12

a Clueless reunion like a year and a half ago

51:15

or something like that, right, And Paul said

51:17

something that was very very interesting.

51:22

He was like, we have history together,

51:24

you know what I mean. So because we have

51:27

history together, it's so easy to

51:29

fall back into where

51:32

we were when we were working

51:35

on scrubs, right he was he was saying

51:38

clueless. He was like, we had such a great

51:40

time and it was such a big opportunity

51:43

for all of us, and it turned into something so big

51:46

that when we see each other you

51:48

can't help but reminiscent feel

51:50

all of those great feelings that you had when

51:52

ship jumped off, right. I think

51:55

also, you know, when we did the show, we

51:58

didn't have all these years of knowing

52:01

just how special it really was. I

52:03

mean, we've all done plenty of

52:05

jobs since and continue to work

52:07

and will till till our dying day.

52:09

But I think when I watched these episodes

52:11

back and I talk

52:14

to you guys, and it's great seeing everyone now we're doing

52:16

the show. We see you, sorry, we saw Johnny. See we see

52:18

people that we don't see all the time. It's

52:21

it's even bring back more nostalgia for me because I'm

52:23

going, Wow, what a what a unique

52:25

time this was to not only do something for so

52:27

long, but to create this wonderful

52:29

bond with these with these people, and um,

52:31

it's you know a lot of jobs as

52:34

an actor that you do. They're fun and everyone's

52:36

cool and and it works or it doesn't, but

52:38

it isn't such a special thing where where

52:40

you have these lifelong bonds with people. It's

52:42

so true, is it was? It was? It was our

52:44

twenties right like it was our twenties. It was such a formative

52:47

time, I think too, in our lives and then

52:50

for it to be on such a

52:52

special show and yeah, like you guys are saying, like, you

52:54

know, we realize being adults, like how

52:57

fucking rare that is and to have you

52:59

know, I mean, we would we would spend it

53:02

was like you guys were talking about with Randall. It's like we

53:04

would spend sixteen twenty hours shooting.

53:06

We would go over time that people don't never do

53:08

anymore, and then we would go with the whole crew to

53:10

the Money Tree, you know on

53:12

a Friday night. We would have wine

53:15

and cheese Fridays. I mean we've literally just spent

53:18

like over hundred

53:20

hours together. And then you know, and

53:22

then are still hanging out or would hang out on the weekends,

53:24

and I mean really all lunch together.

53:26

I mean, I don't know if you guys now nowadays

53:29

on sets people are like later, but

53:34

we used to every single day for nine for

53:36

eight years, Um, have

53:38

lunch together. Yeah,

53:41

it's so, it's so um, it's

53:44

so rare. I was working on a job like a year ago, and

53:46

I just I was new there and I just grabbed

53:48

my train, went down and sat with the crew and a

53:50

couple of guys that I'd worked with years and years ago, and

53:53

somebody said like, oh, actually,

53:55

you just go to the trail. And I was like, oh, that's not how That's

53:57

not how I grew up. That's not what I enjoyed.

54:00

I um and uh it

54:02

was. Yeah. I don't know if you guys remember,

54:04

but Carrie Bennett are amazing

54:07

costume designer who hanous

54:10

scrubs. I definitely remember Carrie

54:12

Bennett. I think, oh my god, she was so great. So she

54:14

she she she'd say to me, you know, after

54:16

lunch, she was like, Sarah, um,

54:19

I don't say this, but we're running out of scrubs,

54:21

in of your scrubs, and and

54:24

we we we we just need to We're gonna give you

54:26

this art smock as a as

54:28

a Giant did and you've

54:30

got to wear it to the lunch tin. And I was like,

54:32

you're kidding me, right, Carrie, And she's like, no, no, just

54:34

like wear it and then it will protect the scrubs,

54:37

these beautiful baby blue scrubs from the chili

54:39

stain. And uh so I

54:41

did, and it was kind of humiliating, and

54:43

I was super proud. I came back from

54:45

lunch and I'm like, Carrie, and then I had

54:48

taken a quick disco nap in my dressing

54:50

room and I fell asleep on

54:52

a sharpie And so these baby

54:56

blue scrubs that were like pristine on the front

54:58

had like a sharpie stain the size of a grape

55:00

fruit on the butt. Sarah, is it okay

55:02

to tell everyone, um that

55:05

you're not necessarily the tidiest

55:08

person? Oh

55:10

my god, I forgot about that. Your

55:12

dressing room. Oh how

55:16

did you find anything? And never?

55:18

You've never seen anything like it? People, Oh,

55:23

come along, Well,

55:26

I don't know, do you guys? Remember I moved dressing rooms because

55:28

I was between your two dressing rooms at the right

55:30

end of the hallway. And then in whatever

55:32

season that Heather Graham came on, she was

55:35

coming for eight episodes, and they

55:38

made her a really nice dressing room. They brought in like new

55:40

carpeting and they painted. They brought in this cute little

55:42

couch and it was smaller than it

55:44

was so pretty, And so when she left

55:46

they let me have it. So I ended up switching over

55:49

the Heather's dressing up. They

55:51

fixed up a dressing room because he Their Graham

55:53

was coming, and then when she left, you were like, can I have

55:55

it? And they were like sure, like, it's so funked up. After

55:57

all this time, you didn't get that dressing room, but that you

56:00

moved across the hall. That's right, you moved to the other

56:03

side. Oh but okay, yes

56:05

I did. And And as more

56:07

proof that I've been listening to your podcast, Johnny

56:09

C. I was laughing so hard. He was like, it

56:12

was like, remember how

56:14

we each got fifteen hundred dollars from Disney every

56:17

year to improve our dressing rooms. I was like, hell

56:19

no, I

56:22

remember just going there. Remember I remember going

56:24

into Donald didn't have much to core and

56:27

he would just like like whatever, whatever

56:29

the latest video game system and the controllers

56:31

everywhere, and then and then

56:34

Sarah looked like exploded.

56:39

There was just like shit everywhere.

56:42

Kind of was a teenager. I mean when I look fact

56:44

of those episodes, we were babies, like yeah,

56:46

but you were you weren't a teenager kid.

56:51

And then your your dressing room

56:53

looked like fucking you would walk in and it would smell

56:55

good, you had freaking art on the wall

56:58

and ship like that. I was there. I

57:00

was there my whole life. I thought it had to be a little bit nice.

57:02

But I want everyone to realize these

57:04

are still hospital rooms. Okay, these are

57:06

small hospital rooms that basically

57:09

just had some I keya furniture and a fresh

57:11

coat of paint, but still have changed

57:14

your ship up a little bit more than just I keya

57:16

furniture. Like they

57:19

were like, Zach, here's your room, and you were like, no, we

57:21

gotta fix it. Hold on now, hold hold on. Where

57:23

did you get this? Where did you get this furniture from Kia?

57:26

No? No, no, no, We're gonna have to get pottery barn. Like

57:28

you. It

57:31

was not as nice as pottery barn. It

57:34

was. I think it was all rental ship. So every

57:36

year they bring you in like how about this couch and

57:38

be like no, And then you

57:41

go to the differenttal house and be like how about this one.

57:43

It was just like I'm

57:45

learning so much. I never got the

57:47

fite hunter Johnny so had

57:50

someone. I never had someone say how about this couch? I

57:52

was just whatever coach was in there till I took Heather Glam's

57:54

right. I mean, in my defense, I was there the most

57:57

hours of the day, so I did.

57:59

I did like I'm gonna need to nap, so

58:02

I'm gonna I do remember saying. I do

58:04

remember going up to somebody and being like, listen,

58:06

I don't want to be a pain in the ass or anything like that.

58:09

But my couch is made

58:11

out of like, uh, it's

58:13

like Dan Durry or whatever this ship

58:15

is, and it's really hard on my face

58:18

and it's really hot. Is there a way we could

58:20

find something that's a little bit more cooler? Uh?

58:23

And and not cooler like uh,

58:26

like aesthetically cooler, but

58:28

cooler like keeps your body cool cooler.

58:32

I don't want you to be a pain in the ass, but is there any way

58:34

this could happen? And I remember them being like him,

58:37

let me talk to somebody about this.

58:39

We'll see you're talking. Maybe

58:45

Zack's like, they would be like, here's a couch. When you think

58:47

of this couch? No, okay, what about this?

58:50

You should have been like, you should be like Heather Graham

58:53

would like me to have a nicer couch. Okay,

58:59

guys, that's the show. So I hope you enjoyed

59:01

taking this trip down memory lane. UM,

59:05

go to my Twitter and recommend

59:07

more stories that you enjoy. We've

59:09

already had great suggestions for just categories.

59:12

Someone wanted to see all of the first

59:15

times that people like the

59:17

question We ask everybody when they first come on the show,

59:19

is when did you first get involved in scrubs?

59:21

So maybe I'll do a compilation of that.

59:24

I've gotten a request for all of Donald's

59:26

wraps. I might try to do that. There's

59:28

a ton of options in here. I already

59:30

know I want to do one of just the youths.

59:34

You know. Obviously we're gonna put Zack's

59:36

bar Mitzvah story and the time

59:39

maybe he found that special massager

59:42

Um. Donald has great

59:44

stories from you know, being

59:46

a kid dancing in front of the Fame

59:48

School. So let me know which stories

59:50

you guys want to hear, and I'll try to make

59:52

a couple of compilations. I know you miss our

59:55

two week drops. Of course, Back and Donald

59:57

are very very busy working hard to bring you.

1:00:00

They're great content that listen. I've

1:00:02

heard some behind the scenes things. I can't talk about

1:00:04

it here, but you guys are gonna

1:00:06

love what's coming down the pipeline, so it's totally

1:00:09

worth it. I'm just gonna have to dig deep

1:00:11

and work really hard to keep trying to entertain

1:00:13

you. Re illuminate some of the things

1:00:15

we have forgotten. Like I said, I forgot

1:00:17

some of these stories existed, so it's been a fun journey

1:00:20

for me. If you guys have suggestions, you can

1:00:22

hit me up on Twitter or Instagram,

1:00:24

DM me, whatever, and I'll

1:00:26

try to put something together you guys like. Until

1:00:28

then, please, you know, hang out with us,

1:00:31

join us Sex Tuesday. We've got another great show

1:00:33

for you. I really started to bring it to you. And of

1:00:35

course, as always, thank

1:00:38

you so much for listening. Thank you for just being

1:00:40

here and being a light in our lives. Thank you for

1:00:42

everyone show up to the live show. We

1:00:44

have another one in the work, so get ready for

1:00:47

that. I think that's

1:00:49

everything. Okay, have a great

1:00:51

weekend. I love you guys. By You're

1:00:58

so sorry. By sure,

1:01:01

we made about

1:01:03

a bunch of docs and nurses and a

1:01:05

janitor who loved me. Here I said, he's

1:01:07

the stories natural should

1:01:10

know. So gather

1:01:13

around you. Here are gather

1:01:15

around you, here are expected for watch

1:01:18

your winds and then