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SURPRISE: Star Wars with Donald and Joelle

Released Thursday, 31st December 2020
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SURPRISE: Star Wars with Donald and Joelle

SURPRISE: Star Wars with Donald and Joelle

SURPRISE: Star Wars with Donald and Joelle

SURPRISE: Star Wars with Donald and Joelle

Thursday, 31st December 2020
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0:01

Yeah, Hell, I'm

0:04

good. How are you doing? Chilling? You

0:06

know, chilling, chilling? How's

0:09

your Wednesday coming? Listen

0:11

for it's cold. It's officially winter in l

0:13

A. So I'm dealing with that. I've

0:15

layered up with the sweaters, trying

0:17

to stay toasty. But there's also

0:20

a Star Wars Christmas special coming

0:22

and I'm really excited to watch it.

0:25

I have it in my inbox. I have to watch it

0:27

tonight. And Donald I haven't seen the original

0:30

Star Wars Christmas specials. I'm gonna

0:32

watch that too. I mean,

0:34

there's like a six minute conversation

0:37

in Wookie with no subtitles

0:41

Christmas. It's like like

0:43

you're literally sitting there like what. I've

0:49

only heard all of the like fans

0:51

to talk about it for years, and I've heard about

0:53

six minute Wokie conversation. Um,

0:55

I've heard it kind of drags it. It mostly takes place

0:58

among the Wookies, isn't I right? Well, that's

1:00

what celebration originally started as

1:02

it was like from what I

1:04

remember, and I could be wrong, so please don't

1:07

quote me. But originally, like

1:09

Celebration was a Wookie holiday

1:11

and then it turned into the

1:14

New Year type holiday or the Christmas

1:16

type holiday that comes on every

1:19

cycle in the Star Wars universe.

1:22

Got it? Got it? Yeah,

1:24

I'm excited to check it out. I I've heard about

1:26

it for so long. I'm finally gonna take the deep dive.

1:28

As I solidified my Star Wars

1:30

fandom by watching literally everything they've

1:33

put out, including what most

1:35

people think is the worst thing they've ever put out.

1:37

If you can find it. There's other

1:39

shows that are like The e

1:41

Walk Adventures, the

1:44

Battle for Indoor. These are all

1:46

Cannon films too. These are things made by George

1:49

Lucas. There's one thing that's not cannon

1:51

anymore. But there was a

1:53

cartoon that came on Saturday morning

1:55

back in the days, if you can find it where it's

1:57

like about the e Walks also because

2:00

and also it was about our two and three

2:03

p O and all the masters that

2:05

they had before somewhere

2:07

in between where you

2:09

know they were owned by

2:12

other people before Leia and her

2:15

family owned an Anakin. But then that's

2:17

all debunked now because Anakin

2:19

built three PO. But like there's

2:22

this whole story of the two of them

2:24

being you know, transferred

2:28

from one owner to another, sometimes

2:30

by being stolen or

2:33

you know, their adventure with this one

2:35

ends, and so they joined forces with this

2:38

one. And it has nothing to do with the Rebel

2:40

Alliance. It has nothing to do with anything. It just

2:42

has everything to do with the galaxy.

2:45

I don't know if there's before the Empire

2:47

or if the Empire is there, but it's before

2:49

they're owned by the Skywalker family

2:52

and I don't know if it's exists anymore, but

2:54

you can find it somewhere. I'm sure someone

2:57

has it. I'm sure our fans are gonna send us all

3:00

of the links, which we appreciate obviously.

3:02

Uh. This is I'm so excited to do this

3:04

show. Donald. I had no idea that

3:07

existed, and now I feel like maybe all

3:09

of those Clone Wars episodes based off of

3:11

the like little mini Droid missions and things

3:13

were maybe inspired by this early animation

3:15

work. I'm for sure gonna have to go check

3:17

it out. You've been watching The Mandalorian

3:20

though, right every single Friday

3:23

morning it's

3:24

a nine

3:26

am wake up. It like midnight.

3:30

Literally, I'll put the

3:32

kids down at seven and wake

3:34

up at eleven fifty

3:37

nine just to watch it turn

3:39

over. I like the

3:41

difficulty that I have trying to

3:43

get Disney Plus to reload so

3:46

that the Mandalorian episode, the

3:48

newest episode refreshes yourself

3:52

such tourment. When I wake up, it's already there.

3:54

I just click go and we're ready. We're

3:56

in it because I need to watch it like right away.

3:59

And then I watched it three or four times.

4:02

Uh yeah, I can't. I don't have time to watch

4:04

it twice in a row. But I do watch it again.

4:06

When my roommate Andrew comes home, we probably

4:09

a second time for him. And it's great because my parents

4:11

surprised us with a new seventy

4:13

Samsung TV. They bought us a new sound bar.

4:16

So we have just been having the greatest time experiencing

4:18

The Mandalorian the way it should be real, you

4:21

know, on a giant screen with a lot of

4:23

full sound. It's been. It's

4:25

this season has really impressed.

4:27

I like Season one a

4:29

lot. There's so much to love. I mean, of

4:31

course, from the child you

4:34

know, to like the Pedro Pascal reveal type

4:36

of white TV's appearance, and then has

4:38

so many directors of color and women come

4:40

in and put their stamp on Star Wars. All of that

4:42

was a lot of fun. But for me, it's like a Star

4:45

Wars fan, I was like, this doesn't

4:47

really feel connected to the larger universe,

4:49

and I kind of lost in time

4:51

and I just I don't know. And

4:54

then of course Disney was just like, well,

4:56

here you go, here's all the things that you wanted

4:58

to be better. They figured, doubt how to use

5:01

UM. If you don't know, you should absolutely be watching

5:03

the behind the scenes stuff on the Mandalorian.

5:05

They did he basically a season one recap

5:07

with all the creatives. They shoot the Mandalorian

5:09

in this like digital room. I think we've talked

5:12

about it on Big Doctors before, but it's a giant circle

5:14

room. They can put up any background banned

5:16

there in a location. To me, the shooting of that

5:18

in season one was rough, like

5:20

it lacked depth, which I think you really need

5:22

to sell these big outdoor speezes. They

5:25

figured that problem that we have much more textured

5:27

UM settings, which makes the whole

5:30

thing feel more alive to me. And then

5:32

on top of that, they gave us

5:34

not just excellent performances,

5:36

not just great stories in the genre

5:39

of Western and Samurai,

5:41

but they also linked us

5:43

to the larger universe. I know where we are in time

5:45

now, I understand my name villains

5:47

a little bit better. The child more

5:50

goo am I saying his name right? It's

5:54

right, grow

5:57

say it with that hard end. So

6:00

Brogu' is like like

6:02

he's become a full person, Like he's not just a child

6:04

anymore. We have a backstory. It's been

6:06

an amazing season. How are you enjoying season

6:09

two? Well, I

6:11

gotta be honest with you. I think it's

6:13

really good. I think it's way

6:16

better than season one. I think

6:18

this is but I think this is

6:20

how uh Feloni

6:23

is like if you watch all

6:26

of the things that

6:28

he's done. So like start, Let's start with

6:30

Clone Wars. When Clone Wars first

6:33

came out, it came out as a

6:35

w B movie and

6:38

it introduced this character a

6:41

Soca, and everybody

6:44

was like, oh my god, this is so annoying. The

6:46

first season the Clone Wars, it's

6:48

cool, it's good and everything,

6:50

but you know, it doesn't really catch

6:53

pace until the third season, and then it's

6:55

often running. Colony

6:57

learned his lessons and

7:00

and similarly, Yes develops

7:02

understands what the fans wants and brings it to

7:04

us in a way that has value. All of a sudden,

7:06

Clone Wars is fired. Uh

7:09

then it comes Rebels.

7:12

Rebels comes out, and now people are like, Clone

7:14

Wars, it's for teenagers and adults. Man,

7:17

this Rebels thing is for kids. Why

7:19

would I ever want to watch a

7:22

show for kids

7:24

with it? But the end of the season,

7:27

all of a sudden, you're like, oh my god, this

7:29

is like, this is the best Star Wars I've

7:31

seen in a long time. Yes. Absolutely.

7:34

By season three, after they've introduced the Soca

7:36

again first that everybody

7:38

hated when she first was introduced

7:41

in the Warner Brothers movie. By the time they introduce

7:44

her, now everyone's so crazy

7:46

and they're out of their minds. Right. So

7:49

I feel with the Mandalorians

7:53

the first season, it's

7:56

just touching, Okay, what can

7:58

we do? What is what's possible? You

8:01

know? For storytelling. Also, it's

8:04

like, all right, well, what will the audience accept? What won't

8:06

they accept? And we've never had Star Wars

8:08

in this medium before in a thirty minute

8:11

to an hour depending on the episode,

8:13

like in your Face once

8:15

a week for six or eight weeks experience,

8:19

you know, are their giant movies or their

8:21

animated shows. But this is what's

8:23

great about this show. They're

8:26

developing these characters before

8:28

our eyes, and we're

8:31

being blinded by what's

8:33

in the show, you know what I mean, the cameos

8:36

and all of these things. But if you're really watching

8:38

the show, this Dan Jaron

8:41

character is really dynamic. Yeah,

8:43

how it started and how it's going right now,

8:46

He's a completely different man already,

8:48

and we're only sixteen chapters and

8:50

seventeen chapters. You

8:53

know. Justin pointed out the other day that, like if

8:55

you think about the moments that Feloni

8:57

hones in on in Star Wars, the

9:00

typically the Battle of the Fates, and this idea

9:02

that without a fully grown adult

9:04

father, Anakin

9:06

was always going to go the way Yoda initially thought he was

9:08

going to go, right, He didn't have that

9:11

that strong guided teacher, yeah,

9:16

yeah, but he needed a father,

9:21

was yeah, And that's why Luke's guidance

9:24

later like become so important

9:26

to like his head on and him like struggling to

9:28

figure out Like first, you know, he's

9:30

got old Obi Wan, a person

9:32

who's learned their lessons, but then he also has

9:35

what Anakin was never really allowed

9:37

to have, which is a trusted circle of friends.

9:40

Right, Anakin's too busy literally fighting

9:42

a war, battling around it's so interesting

9:44

to me that he Dave

9:47

alone picks up on all of those ideas

9:50

and flips it on his head. And because it's a guy figuring out

9:52

how do I be a dad? Right, it's always

9:54

sons looking for their fathers and

9:57

said, this is a guy who's like, I

10:00

guess I'll just step up into the position of being

10:02

a dad. And it's really sort of thrilling

10:04

and exciting to see that a parental

10:06

figure can be not

10:08

just like an action star, but also

10:10

like we can explore those faults in

10:13

an action space, in an action setting.

10:15

I feel like so oftentimes when we get our heroes,

10:18

you know, if we think about our classic eighties specifically

10:20

heroes are John McLean's and whatnots uh,

10:23

they're like supermato guys who

10:25

sort of are only after like

10:27

a romantic love interest. And

10:30

I like that the greatest love in this is

10:32

between a father and a son, and that it's a father trying

10:34

to figure out how do I be a good dad.

10:36

It's just it gives me all the warm fuzzies

10:38

of like a classic Disney tale, but it's

10:40

Star Wars, and I just think, like, I'm

10:43

excited that the company is figuring out, how are we going to do

10:45

Star Wars? And it's good and they're able

10:47

to do it by giving the fans what they

10:49

want, you know what I mean, a Soca

10:51

Boba fett, you know what I mean. I'm

10:53

gonna say one thing. I you know,

10:56

the first Bill Burrow episode, Bill, that's

10:58

how I didn't stay his name Bill. Yeah, the

11:01

first Bill Burr episode. I was like, all

11:05

out, he missed it. They

11:08

missed it. They missed it, you know what I mean? You

11:11

know, And I wasn't like, don't

11:13

put him back on the show, but I was like, well, maybe

11:15

let's not, you know, focus just

11:18

on that character. I'm glad. It was

11:20

just like a side mission. I'll just say

11:22

this. So when I heard he was coming back, I was like, I hope

11:24

he you know, what's going to happen? Because

11:27

I remember the last time? What what? How

11:29

did they do this now? And

11:31

it wasn't that he was bad on the show. It wasn't that,

11:34

it just it just didn't feel like it fit

11:36

the tone of the Mandalorian. But

11:39

now that the Mandalorian the world

11:41

has opened up so big. A

11:44

storm trooper tale is very interesting,

11:46

especially after the war. Yeah,

11:50

and it's also a Redemption Tale also, and

11:53

to have Bill Burke come back and redeemed not

11:55

only the first performance where it seemed like he

11:57

didn't really know, he didn't really know Star Wars or

11:59

that he aided Star Wars or whatever it was, but

12:02

he came back and he crushed this man, like he

12:04

freaking really did his thing in

12:07

this episode. At

12:10

the table, it's your favorite standing

12:12

Officer, it's your favorite episode.

12:14

Wow, that's that's It's

12:16

not mine, but it's a really good episode.

12:19

Of all of them, it's my favorite episode. It

12:23

felt the most like a TV episode

12:26

out of all of them. It wasn't look who's

12:28

on the show this week. It wasn't look at

12:30

what we're doing this week, look at all the Easter eggs

12:32

we have in the show, look at what's going on.

12:35

This felt the most like a

12:37

straight up television show. It

12:40

wasn't just look at all of the flips, like

12:42

the thing about the Mandalorian. That's also great is that

12:44

they have a lot of flair going on in that show. There's

12:46

a lot of flair, you know what I mean. It's all

12:48

fans service this year. But that's why this was my

12:51

favorite episode so far, because it didn't

12:53

there was no fan service in it that and

12:55

it was beautifully acted by Bill Burr and

12:58

Pedro Pascal. Taking

13:00

off his helmet was probably I

13:03

felt uncomfortable for him

13:05

and him not being able to make eye contact

13:07

with people because he was so

13:10

used to having the mask on and having

13:13

Oh he just played everything so well and

13:16

Bill Barb with his ptsd s just

13:18

so well. It was amazing episode,

13:21

my favorite so far. Rick did a great job

13:23

directing it. Rick He's

13:25

incredible, and I think because he directed Bill

13:28

Burr's last episode as well. And I what I

13:30

really appreciate is them being like, no, we

13:32

have found a stunning casting crew.

13:35

It was our tone that we're figuring it

13:37

out, you know what I mean? And I think Feloni

13:40

and to John Favro's credit to like

13:42

this is where they truly excel. Is like bringing

13:44

people together that can make great things.

13:47

Well, they figured out that character's tone. If if

13:50

he's a part of the Rangers

13:52

of the Republic, this new show that's coming

13:54

out with him and Karadoon

13:56

and and uh Phinictiontion

13:59

and both, yes, yeah,

14:02

if they're all part of the Rangers of the Republic,

14:04

that's pretty cool too. I'd like to be a part of it. I'm

14:06

just gonna put it out there. I see y'all got a bunch of stuff

14:09

coming out. I didn't hear my name put with any of

14:11

it. Donald's right here, having

14:13

already played a character, ready to go.

14:15

I'm you know, I'm look man, I'm getting in shape.

14:17

I'm working out. I'm doing my thing. I know how to hold

14:19

a blaster. I'm nice with a blaster, like Han

14:22

Solo. I set it in the rhymes, set it out

14:24

there, put it in the street stags. If they have the

14:26

beloved Dad from

14:29

Kim's convenience in there being a

14:31

cop and flying ships and

14:33

like saving our crew from ice

14:35

spiders. I don't see why there's

14:37

not room for Donald fase On here

14:40

to be saving the day and stuff. I

14:44

would listen. I

14:47

would sacrifice m

14:51

a lamb or a goat if

14:53

necessary. I'm gonna put it out there. I

14:56

would do it. I would do it myself. I

14:58

would listen whatever is necessary.

15:01

If I need to burn

15:03

my collection of uh

15:06

Star Wars comics in

15:08

order to be part

15:11

of the Star Wars universe

15:13

again, I will do it. If I need

15:15

to trade in all of

15:17

my Star Wars Black series

15:20

action figures, I will do it

15:22

if I need to never talk

15:25

about Star Wars ever again. Joel,

15:29

I'm sorry. We're about to sign contracts.

15:31

Let's stop that promise. I

15:33

will bring your comics and effigy with you,

15:36

and I will do it till I know I would

15:38

do it. I will do it. I

15:40

will do it. I'm sorry, Joel, I would do it.

15:43

I'll bring you with me, though, I'll bring you with me. I'll

15:45

bring you. It'll be worth it to come on set.

15:47

I'm about that life, you know. I'll just how

15:49

their noses or I don't know, move a spotlight.

15:52

What are we going to do? Bring you with me? You

15:55

willing to do it? Listen. I'm working

15:57

on my skills. I will start working

15:59

with acting coaches. I

16:01

will freaking disguise myself but

16:03

still look like myself. I still gotta look like myself.

16:06

That's the thing. You can't just put me like in a droid

16:08

outfit and be like there, you get it there, all right?

16:10

Just people

16:13

of color, as aliens or robots

16:16

want to be people, That's

16:18

right. I want to be a black man other than Lando

16:20

cal Risson, Apollo Creed

16:23

and freaking uh Sam

16:25

Jackson, the baddest and

16:27

the galaxy. Wanna I want to be one

16:29

of the other ones, one of the other

16:31

black people too, because you know, the galaxy

16:33

is populated with him, and I want to be one

16:36

of them. So steer Star Wars people they

16:39

John Kathy, George

16:43

Disney either fighting,

16:48

who else who? Pixar just create

16:50

a listen you can just see and

16:52

one to whom it may

16:54

concern. I'm

16:58

not begging, but

17:01

I'm I'm pleading, not not telling. Shoot,

17:04

I'm not going to threaten him, no way,

17:06

No, I want to be in the movie. I'm

17:09

asking with all that is in me

17:13

and all that I could possibly be. I

17:18

promise you check the track record. I can

17:20

help carry a show I

17:22

did not. It

17:24

was on Disney too. I've

17:27

been hit movie for Disney as well. Out

17:31

Scraps is a desity show. To go

17:35

with me, Ah

17:38

promise, I will make it the

17:40

best relationship ever in

17:42

the history

17:43

of So he's not gonna

17:45

mess it up. Like he's going to be there on time

17:48

lines memorized in the gym five am,

17:50

like he's ready. I

17:52

will look like what you need me to look

17:55

like. I will ask

17:57

the way you need me to act. I know all

17:59

the land which I know the binary

18:02

code. I know the difference

18:04

between the Battle of t Nab, which

18:06

is the correct way you to say it, and to nab.

18:09

I know the difference. I'm just gonna put it out there.

18:11

Lando said it. I'm picturing

18:14

you. It's liked

18:17

and all and Alderon. I know the

18:19

difference between Alderon and Alderon.

18:21

I see there's comments on your Instagram,

18:24

and I feel like, you know, it's very

18:26

like daddy centered, and I feel

18:29

like if we made you like like a farmer

18:31

with like some kids, but then the

18:33

Empire console like take all your plants,

18:35

and I don't know, we could do we could do Game of Thrones

18:38

level tragic where they're like start to death and you're

18:40

the last one to survive and you're like, it's

18:42

just me and I'm just gonna face the Empire loan

18:45

rate, like just by myself loan gutnment.

18:48

Or I could just be like you know, and a crew,

18:50

you know what I mean, like a high domin

18:53

do you have skills and knowledge and energy

18:56

to bring to this. I'm willing to just be like,

18:58

you know, the dude

19:01

that punches the buttons on the ship and

19:03

said, I am unwilling to do that. I

19:05

don't want you to have a famous person Cameo,

19:08

the whole character, as long as I get to shoot

19:10

blasters and everything like that at

19:13

at the bad guys or the good

19:15

guys. You know what I mean. I'll be Please,

19:17

let Donald be more than just pushing things in

19:19

the back. I mean, if we get that that's all you have to offer,

19:21

obviously we're gonna take it. But like, there's

19:24

so much more you could be doing. I just want

19:26

to be a Star Wars more than anything I've

19:28

ever wanted to be in my life. If I was in Star

19:30

Wars as a live action character,

19:33

I feel like, first of all,

19:35

I feel like everyone would accept it,

19:37

and I don't think everyone would be like, oh, ship Turks

19:39

and fucking Star Wars. I don't think so

19:41

either. That was my fear

19:44

was that I was too famous for Star Wars. But

19:46

I don't think anybody is too famous for Star

19:48

Wars anymore, you know what I mean. At

19:52

one point, I do agree that if you had

19:54

a niche and

19:56

you were in Star Wars, it was distracting.

19:59

Now thing is distracting because

20:01

it's so accessible. So that being

20:03

said, I'll

20:07

sing songs for your Star

20:09

Wars

20:13

for you. Yeah,

20:17

I could be a freaking I could be a freaking musician

20:20

in Star Wars who

20:22

does like gigs at different

20:25

spots. Be a canta

20:27

lounge singer, for sure. I

20:29

could be the guy that's like here and there

20:31

and every now and then gets caught up in missions

20:34

and that's all. Listen, let's

20:36

re do canto bite and make it epic, right,

20:39

Let's have you be in the casino singing

20:41

down. But I not only do like canto

20:43

bite, but I also do like places

20:45

where scum and villainy be like, I'm I

20:49

go with a get pays you know I to go. I'm

20:51

all about the credits, but I also

20:53

have a blast track my side and a pretty

20:55

fast ship. But we're always

20:57

about the music. We're always about

20:59

them. Was like, na san a settee.

21:03

Uh, this is starting sound like guard you to the Galaxy

21:07

time Star Wars, and I don't stand

21:09

it. Fan it's something

21:13

I'm fanness. He's

21:18

that here composing red

21:21

funny that's

21:24

from returning to the Jedi the original songs.

21:29

I'm doing the words wrong, but it don't matter. Had

21:31

a fan of their

21:35

a song that's funky in return of the Jedi original

21:38

song from returning to the Jedi when you cut

21:40

to the band playing in Jabba's

21:42

Palace is Fire

21:46

and it was like the original song. It's like,

21:48

so I'm shaping up and working

21:50

out what

21:53

Yeah, oh man, I

21:56

want to table this intro to do in

21:58

actual intro. Welcome

22:00

you guys, some of you. If you listen to pick

22:02

doctor youll friends have been waiting for

22:05

for for

22:07

this Star Wars show. We've been waiting

22:09

forever. Obviously, both super

22:11

busy, but it's something we've been wanting to do for

22:13

such a long time, and now we're here and

22:16

we're doing it. It's always great to, you

22:19

know, sit down and discuss

22:21

Star Wars with anyone,

22:23

And I couldn't imagine doing it with anyone

22:26

other than you, my amiga

22:31

from another Madre. Does

22:34

that even make sense? Then my

22:36

friend from another mother, my friend

22:38

from it makes perfect sense, right, my

22:41

amiga from another Madre.

22:44

I'm excited to talk you know, the

22:46

Battle of Galaxies. Yeah,

22:49

I mean I think your fans know you

22:52

voice actual characters in act.

22:55

You are canonically a

22:57

part of the Star Wars universe. But

22:59

you've all for ever. Yes,

23:02

since I was three years old, I've been a friend as

23:04

a matter of fact, one of my first memories ever

23:07

into life period. Forget

23:09

about it just being the Star Wars universe.

23:11

Let's just say into life, one

23:13

of my first memories is walking into a movie

23:15

theater and seeing Our two

23:17

d to scroll across

23:20

the screen because we were obviously late for

23:22

the movie, you know, being on time

23:24

back in the day, we were late for the movie,

23:27

so we walk in with our two.

23:29

We missed the whole opening opening

23:32

shot. I don't even

23:34

recall seeing the freaking Bap bap.

23:37

But I don't even recall seeing that. I just recall seeing

23:39

our two right before he gets shot

23:41

by job. That's like one of my first memories

23:44

ever. So it's

23:47

very interesting that that's it. And it's

23:50

not that Our two is one of my least favorite characters,

23:52

but it's just that my my introduction

23:54

to it all was actually, if

23:56

you really think about it, the Bible

23:59

of the Star Wars Wars universe are two

24:01

and three po hold all the

24:04

information you

24:06

know. You could say what you want to say about the Jedi

24:08

books and everything like that, but all of the

24:10

knowledge that we know so far in

24:12

Star Wars other than the Mandalorian. But

24:15

do you want to talk about Clone Wars. You want to talk about

24:17

all of that stuff in some way, are

24:19

two and three po have touched it

24:21

all and have all of the knowledge of what

24:23

was going on in that time, and so my first

24:26

introduction into it was through

24:28

the Book of Knowledge of Star Wars. That

24:31

is so wild and amazing

24:33

that it's like that's your earliest memory. I think it explains

24:36

a lot about the person you became. I

24:39

have been writing about Star Wars for a long

24:41

time. I did a recap show of Rebels

24:44

when it was on UM. I have

24:46

many videos reacting to a lot of

24:48

this last trilogies trailers,

24:50

which as we know, Disney and Lucas

24:52

aced those trailers, every single one

24:54

of them greater than the last. So entertaining

24:57

my earliest Star Wars memory,

25:00

it has to be going to so like I

25:02

grew up on the Star Wars movies. They were always playing

25:05

in the background. My dad's a big fan. But it wasn't

25:07

until like we went and saw it

25:09

in n I was ten. I

25:12

remember making the long drive into the city.

25:15

Was like, yes, I was. I was a

25:17

babe, a youngling. As they say,

25:21

to see episode four or five or six,

25:23

you're going to see episode one,

25:25

Yes, and there was a kid in it and he was

25:27

gonna fly things. And I knew

25:30

that, like, it was going to be a very emotionally

25:33

intense experience the minute we came in, because

25:35

it was all adults who like had such

25:37

hushed reverence. It was the first screening, the

25:40

day after the midnight screening, and

25:42

I remember we sat down. I

25:44

don't remember much about like opening shots

25:46

and everything, but I do remember, funnily enough,

25:48

when R t D two comes on the screen, the whole audience

25:51

lost their damn minds. And it's the minute

25:53

I become a Star Wars fanatic

25:55

because I love fandoms.

25:58

I love the debates, I love the

26:00

illogical leads we occasionally make

26:02

to try to make things work. I love our

26:05

dedication. I love the fan piction. Fandom

26:07

is what brought me into Star Wars and

26:10

R two D two and the fans interaction to seeing

26:12

the first familiar character that pops

26:14

up in the new trilogy solidified

26:17

that moment for me, and ever since I've been I've

26:19

been a Star Wars fan. It's

26:22

crazy that our two has that effect on people,

26:24

but and and it's only fitting that he's the first

26:27

familiar character that you see in

26:29

the Phantom Menace, even the Obi Wan's

26:31

in it and everything like that. It's not Alec Ginnis

26:33

playing obi Wan Kenobi. It's a reactor.

26:35

It's you and McGregor, and

26:38

you know in the beginning it's not

26:40

the obi Wan Kenobi. We know are

26:42

two D two and three po are?

26:45

You know, it's almost like they're the same person. You

26:47

say it together. Are two D two

26:50

and C three p O are so

26:52

important to this universe that

26:54

it's only fitting that we start this first episode

26:57

talking about them. It's only fitting that first

27:00

introduction to Star Wars

27:03

is through one of them, and

27:05

at the end of it all, it's only fitting that

27:07

our two was the first person. What's

27:09

the first person? I'm talking about it like it's an actual sent

27:11

me in being first droid that

27:13

you see. I think it's totally

27:16

fair that you talked about him as a real person. I know

27:18

you've been to a lot of Star Wars

27:20

premieres and events and things. I was at the Road one

27:22

premiere and he like,

27:25

no, not the Road one premiere. Is at the episode

27:27

nine press junket, he comes out and he's

27:29

rolling around and a bunch

27:31

of like journalists, so These are people who you

27:33

know, are often catered to. They get

27:36

like, you know, they're entertainment journalists,

27:38

so they're talking to the stars around everybody

27:41

nobody cares about, Like, oh my

27:43

gosh, there's like all the actors

27:45

from the movie you know, R T. G. Two rolls in. Everyone's

27:47

like, get out your phones. We're taking self in long

27:50

lines porn. I feel like Star Wars,

27:52

particularly since the opening of

27:54

the Star Wars Disney theme

27:56

park, I just feel like there's

27:58

something authentically human about

28:01

even the droids. There's they've been with us

28:03

since you were three. I don't know a world without

28:05

Star Wars. Sometimes these characters

28:07

are real to because they believe in the line and think, especially when

28:09

we get into like those good debates about them.

28:12

Well, the great thing about them is that they're

28:14

like the teddy bears of this galaxy.

28:16

You can say wookies, you can say e walks,

28:19

you could say all of that stuff, but you didn't

28:21

want to snuggle up with Chewbacca because he was too

28:23

scary, you know what I mean. And so when

28:25

pictures would arrived as a youth, when

28:27

you're a kid, if pictures came and Chewbacca

28:30

was there, I've seen it with my own eyes. My kids obaka.

28:34

You know it's they're not really excited to see

28:36

him, you know what I mean. He's a he's a very

28:38

handsome wookie. However you want to look at it,

28:40

but they're not excited to see him. They know he's a hero,

28:43

but they're not excited to see him. When Darth

28:45

Mader walks and you want to talk about being scared,

28:48

that's not the first thing a kid runs to, you

28:50

know when they see that's the evil character

28:53

in the whole situation. But

28:55

the droid and the

28:57

other droid, the Laurel

29:00

and Hardy, the Abbott

29:03

and Costello, the however

29:05

you want to look at it, the round and

29:08

the long skin, however

29:10

it's looked at, however it's looked that in folklore

29:13

or in mythology, whatever they represent.

29:16

When that comes in as a kid, it

29:18

served a purpose perfectly. That's

29:20

why Droids is so loved, you know what I mean.

29:23

You talked about wanting to take your cell phone

29:25

out the minute are too walked in. It would have

29:27

been the same thing with three po also, because

29:29

those are the characters in Star Wars

29:31

that you feel safe with from the beginning

29:33

of it all and what they represent.

29:35

And it also Are two is the one that helps

29:38

save the day the young. The unsung

29:40

hero is are two. The unsung

29:42

hero is three p O three PO stumbles

29:45

into being a hero accidentally. He

29:47

doesn't know how important he is throughout

29:49

this whole thing. He had no idea

29:52

how important he is, you know. But

29:54

they're the unsung heroes, and they're not gonna

29:56

hurt you. It's against three pos programming,

29:59

you know what I mean. It's

30:01

only right that you run towards these

30:03

these characters. They're the plushies

30:06

of the Star Wars universe. They're

30:08

definitely the little buddies. If you look at like, you

30:11

know, all of your classic Disney stories, there's always

30:13

like some type of pet or animal friend

30:15

running alongside your princesses. Alongside

30:18

our princesses and princes we have droids,

30:21

and especially we don't have trying to get into

30:23

it today. But once we start looking at

30:25

their roles, specifically in the Clone Wars more

30:28

acutely, you start to see how

30:30

the writers and the Star Wars story group

30:32

have really looked at those characters

30:34

the sort of the minorities of that universe and are

30:36

often in the servant too, positions

30:39

often disregarded as not being

30:41

important, to essential or simply tools.

30:44

And yet and yet they

30:46

are not just the history. They are also

30:48

you know, helping our fighters get

30:51

as they're flying their planes fly better,

30:53

they're helping us shoot better. They're secretly

30:56

getting the most important vital information

30:58

to the war outside of enemy

31:00

lines. Like, yeah, droids are everything

31:02

to me. I don't think they get enough respect, uh,

31:04

And I think we have to definitely add

31:06

that to our potential episodes

31:09

is put some respect on droids names, put

31:12

some respect on their names. Because

31:15

even b B eight man like b B eight when

31:18

they roll BB eight out now, and I guarantee

31:20

you you've never seen anybody use a

31:23

bunch of adults go nuts when not

31:25

only is it because b B eight, it's like, wow,

31:27

how does that work? You know what I mean? How does the

31:30

thing well? How does the ball stay on top of the head

31:32

and the underneath and how does its back? That

31:35

stuff is amazing in itself, But there's

31:37

something so amazing about that droid

31:39

when it rolls out. When I don't know BB

31:41

it's a boy or a girl, but when he

31:44

or she rolls out, it's

31:46

magical. Yeah, it's

31:48

magical. So for you,

31:51

I want to scratch his belly. He doesn't have a belly.

31:54

I don't even I even know if

31:56

he feels that. Can I scratch your

31:58

ear? How do we hug and embrace so

32:00

cute? Cannot play with your antenna?

32:03

You know what I mean? It's like what the oh

32:06

man? So, guys, when

32:08

we do the shows, what our plan is.

32:10

Our goal is to bring you guys like a

32:12

ton of really cool people from inside the

32:14

Star Wars universe. So we're talking

32:17

character designers, novel writers,

32:19

graphic artists, people designing merchandise,

32:22

the guys that build the lightsabers, directors.

32:25

We're also gonna try to bring you guys talent,

32:28

so you know, some of Donald's friends who

32:30

have been these lifelong, like hardcore

32:33

Star Wars fans. I'll bring in some of my friends

32:35

who are writers for like star Wars dot

32:37

Com or have written some of the novels, and we'll

32:39

be doing interviews with them. But we also want

32:41

to include you, guys, because we love the fans.

32:43

We love talking to the fans. I've already told you the fandom

32:46

is why I got in. Donald, actual

32:48

member of the Star Wars canon universe,

32:51

loves the fans loves talking to you guys. So we're gonna

32:53

let you guys send us questions, will

32:55

be interacting with you. And so for today,

32:57

since it's just me and Donald here talking about Star Wars,

33:00

if you wanted to let you guys get a chance to know

33:02

us as fans. So I put together some

33:04

questions, Thald and I I like your I

33:06

like your questions. This is something

33:08

that could be like every cast

33:11

that we do, podcasts that we do cast

33:14

so pretentious, just could be something

33:16

like every cast that we know everything,

33:18

every podcast that we do. Okay,

33:21

top ten, straight up something. Let

33:23

me go, and we've got We've got

33:25

our editor justin in the wings. He's gonna be here

33:28

helping us. You know, batchag. You

33:30

know, I forget a lot of things. Uh, full

33:33

disclosure. He's my brother. He's gonna be helping me keep

33:36

it in the family. I'm here to knock her. I'm

33:38

gonna knock her down a peg or two every time he

33:41

does. All

33:44

right, let's go. So our very first question,

33:47

which I think is vital and of most importance

33:49

too many fans, is how would you

33:51

rank your core nine Star Wars films?

33:54

All right, here we go. Your number

33:56

one, my number one. You go first.

33:58

It's Empire Strikes, Empire strikes back

34:01

from me as well. It can be nothing else.

34:03

It's Irvin Kirschner. He killed it. All

34:05

of the greatest drama, the best of

34:07

the romances. You get the

34:10

introduction of the greatest

34:12

uh, the greatest Star Wars character

34:14

ever. Lando cal Risson is interesting

34:17

in the Empire Strikes. A black

34:19

man enters with swagger,

34:23

but not only swagger. That dude enters

34:25

and he owns a city.

34:30

He does, and it's a Cloud City. It's a gorgeous city.

34:33

Okay, it's not a slum. It's not New York the seventies.

34:35

It's it's bright and shiny. It's gorgeous

34:38

sunlight. He got it on debt.

34:40

He even got security. Dude,

34:42

your view is ridiculous

34:45

in Cloud City until the Empire comes

34:47

in and then everything goes to crap. But before

34:49

that, three sixty windows, y'all,

34:52

sunlight in every room. It's gorgeous.

34:54

Also, you know, we're gutting animals and

34:56

living inside them. It's got literally everything you can want

34:59

from a movie. It's perfect. The

35:01

fact that Han solo to save Luke Skywalker's

35:03

life slices open his

35:06

dead ton Ton and

35:09

stuffs his best friend inside

35:12

of it. It's also a great testament

35:14

of friendship in this movie. This

35:17

young rogue

35:19

who cares about no one but himself,

35:23

willing to sacrifice his life

35:26

multiple times for

35:28

his friends. And I'm not even talking

35:30

about the hero of the story. I'm

35:32

talking about the freaking sidekick

35:34

kind of bro bro bro, and we get

35:37

the best romance line ever, I

35:39

love you, I know, and out

35:42

like a badass. Oh god,

35:44

Literally every moment of it, it's just sheer like

35:46

excitement and joy. It's

35:49

so good. The only way that moment

35:51

could have been better is if Han Solo goes

35:53

I know, and then out of nowhere kicks

35:56

butt, like just out of it. He's

35:59

like and

36:01

destroys the Empire right

36:03

then and there. That's the only way that Lan could like

36:06

he was toying with Vader, No, that would have sucked.

36:08

He just turns up James Bond like ready

36:12

to go. Yeah, this

36:15

sacrifice was perfect

36:18

and it's wonderful. It's the best reveal

36:20

ever in the history of cinema, ever, truly,

36:23

just real, real quick. Empire easily

36:25

has the best poster of

36:28

all of the movies. It's

36:30

easily the best hands that I just wanna, you

36:32

know, give a shout out to Roger Castle on that one,

36:35

because it's also different from

36:37

all the other ones, and it's got that classic field.

36:39

It's one of those things where it appeals

36:41

to you in a way that as soon as you see

36:43

it, you're like, oh, I'm locked in. I'm ready to see what

36:45

this ass to tell me. You know what that poster

36:48

reminds me of because of Han Solo dipping

36:50

Princess Leia and it gone with

36:52

the wind. That's

36:53

what it's

36:56

meant to Actually, it was inspired by that.

36:58

He meant to have Han Solo simple

37:00

Clark Gable, Absolutely, that

37:03

is amazing, wonderful.

37:05

Okay, let's move on to our number

37:07

choose, which I think is where we're going to start

37:09

to diverge a bit. So my number

37:12

two from the Core nine it's

37:15

the Last Jedi, which I know we diverge.

37:17

Holy On. We have very different

37:19

opinions about these movies.

37:22

But for me, Donald, okay,

37:24

viewers, how do I describe? It's like a freshm

37:27

new teacher. It's a teacher who loves you and wants better

37:29

for you. It doesn't understand the choices that

37:31

you've made. Like I want to give you an egg.

37:37

I disagree all hardly every reason. One of my

37:39

favorite characters, Admiral She

37:42

is beauty, she is grace. She

37:44

would punch you in the face. I love everything

37:46

about her, from her lilac hair to the fact that

37:48

she wears gorgeous gowns with

37:50

which to direct her navy. She's

37:53

iconic. While I'm not a huge fan

37:55

of many of the romances in here, I

37:58

think our development in too

38:00

a lot of the city structures is exactly

38:02

what the Star Wars universe has needed. It takes absolute

38:05

cues from what was being done in the Clone Wars animated

38:07

series, which a lot of those elements I felt

38:09

needed to be put into the cinematic universe in order

38:12

to bring fans into a new world. And

38:14

Ryan did that. He took us onto the city

38:16

streets. He showed us what the Jedi mean to the

38:18

normal people, to the average stable boy.

38:21

He showed us why

38:23

a lot of these past tropes

38:26

were very male centered films,

38:28

which listen, I love many of

38:30

the Star Wars zones where there are so many dudes

38:32

and so few women, and showing

38:34

what female leadership can do and how it can

38:37

change the course of a war. He showed that

38:39

Leia had Jedi powers.

38:41

Okay, she was one with the Force. I don't

38:43

like Lea with the lightsaber. I don't think

38:45

that's how she would use her Force powers. But I

38:47

do like Laya being able to access and

38:50

tap into the Force and we get it for the first time in

38:52

the Last Jedi. For me, there's so

38:54

much to enjoy, and the Red Room fight,

38:56

which again I will go toe to tell. I know a lot of people

38:58

don't like the choreography of that fight scene, but

39:00

for me, it's all about cinema and art. It

39:02

looks like an oil painting. I would watch it a

39:04

thousand times over. You can think millions

39:07

of songs to it. Would just light up

39:09

your heart with joy and fire. I

39:11

love this movie so

39:13

good. That's you're right.

39:15

That is where we disagree, because I do not

39:18

agree that it is the number two movie

39:20

in the Star

39:22

Wars rankings. In

39:25

my opinion, it's a new hope, I think

39:27

because of what it not only as

39:30

far as how it changed how

39:32

people looked at sci fi

39:34

and how it could be fantasy and

39:36

not hokey fantasy. It also

39:39

changed how people

39:42

looked at blockbusters and what a

39:44

blockbuster was and and how people

39:46

looked at movie making and what

39:48

was possible, and it opened

39:50

up everybody's eyes to something completely

39:53

different. Before a New Hope happened,

39:56

sci fi movies were looked at as

39:59

genre flick that sucked, and you

40:01

know, there was a really tiny audience

40:04

for people to go see it. I think the biggest one

40:06

was like two thousand and one.

40:08

I think that was the biggest blockbuster

40:11

as far as sci fi movies go. And

40:13

then years

40:16

later, here comes a new

40:18

hope, star Wars. Here comes Star Wars, and

40:20

it broke all box office records one

40:23

two. It introduced us to the characters

40:26

that set this whole thing off that

40:28

you know, we all love. It's probably

40:30

the only one in

40:33

this whole thing that I

40:35

could honestly say, the Empire

40:37

Strikes Back is better than you know, uh,

40:40

it's the only one I can honestly say that about

40:43

all the other ones. If you put a New Hope against

40:45

it, I can show you why a New Hope is

40:47

better than each and

40:49

every one of those. Whether it be nostalgia,

40:52

whether it be storytelling, you

40:55

know that that's a perfect Once upon a time,

40:57

there was a farm boy who remp

41:00

to big adventures and

41:02

he got his wish and at the end of it all,

41:05

he saved the day and lived happily

41:07

ever after. That could have been Star Wars right there

41:09

at the end of the movie. It could have been that's

41:11

it and that's all you need, and

41:13

everybody would have walked away like that was one of the

41:16

best movies I've ever seen. Oh my god, listen,

41:19

from technological advancements

41:21

to break out performances that

41:23

defined careers to aerial

41:26

battles we hadn't seen in films for

41:29

like decades at this point, Like it brought

41:31

back a lot of core cinema values

41:34

that I think we're getting lost, particularly as we look at

41:36

the studio system that was degrading in the seventies.

41:39

Like there's so much to love.

41:41

Every department was on point, even though

41:44

if you watch some of the documentaries about making

41:46

of Star Wars, no one thought it was gonna work except

41:48

George. It was just George and his love

41:51

of this idea he had and pushing

41:53

for it to make it work, and he did it. It was great,

41:55

And that's why it's my number three choice that we're

41:57

not too far off Star Wars and New Hope

41:59

is it'sn't just an excellent film. You

42:02

can watch it a million times and still get

42:04

so much to value and love out of it. I mean

42:06

when you look at it now. Also cinematography

42:08

wise, it's beautiful. I mean,

42:10

of course he's gone in and he's changed a couple of things,

42:12

but just angles and the

42:15

wipes and the dissolves

42:17

and the you know, everything you

42:20

get lost in it, and it's it's it's

42:23

the way he captured you know, the

42:26

coming of age story in

42:28

a galaxy far far away

42:30

is incredible and that has to be that

42:33

has to be commended. And I have to give

42:35

it my number two. You give it your number three.

42:37

My number three, however, is Return of

42:39

the Jedi. Return of the Jedi is

42:42

uh wow.

42:44

Um. That was closure

42:47

for me when I was a kid. That

42:50

was it. That was the That was all

42:52

I needed. You know, I knew Luke

42:54

Skywalker did it. He redeemed his father,

42:57

He helped redeem his father. Not

42:59

only did he can goold Darth Vader, but he

43:01

conquered Darth Vaders master, you

43:03

know. And the one

43:05

thing I loved about it more

43:08

than anything was the

43:10

space battle. You

43:12

got a taste of it in the Empire strikes

43:15

back when the Millennium Falcon is going through

43:17

the asteroid field and everything like that. But

43:19

now we're watching, like when the Rebel Alliance

43:22

jumps into hyperspace for the

43:24

first time in front of everybody, and you just

43:26

see boom boom boom boom

43:28

boom boom. As a

43:30

kid, that was the dopest

43:32

thing I had ever seen in my life. Right,

43:35

and then when they cut, not only that, the introduction

43:38

into it all like you knew there,

43:41

okay, we're about to get into something completely

43:44

different. When the music changed, done

43:48

done, done, done, done, done, dune

43:51

done, and you see

43:53

the Millennium falk woop in with

43:55

the red with the A wings and the and

43:57

the X wings and they're dipping through

44:00

all of the capital ships of

44:02

the Rebel Alliance, you know, Home one, and

44:04

they're passing the core vetts and

44:06

everything, and they're about to jump Admiral

44:09

when we're in position and they're about

44:11

to jump into hyperspace. That

44:14

right there alone better the like

44:16

if you look back at if you look back at

44:18

all of this stuff, like everything, it's

44:22

a it's a great way to look at how

44:24

like how far industrial light and magic had

44:26

come. Also, yeah, in the

44:28

first one. You know that

44:30

in the first movie everything is really slow.

44:33

In the second movie, it's just

44:36

so fast pace. There's they tell

44:38

so much story in such little time. It's

44:40

so fast paced. In Return of the

44:42

Jedi, now they've set

44:45

like they've gotten all of this knowledge and they've

44:47

thrown it up there and they're just sitting back and watching

44:50

it just like unfold on its own.

44:52

By the time they get to Return of the Jedi, the

44:54

special effects are telling the story beautifully,

44:57

you know what I mean. It's like it's helping move

44:59

the story along perfectly. And now

45:01

you're not looking for all of the

45:03

things that don't make sense. You're caught

45:05

up. It's like I always say this about time travel movies.

45:07

You know what I mean, Time travel movies suck.

45:10

If I have to think about if I have

45:12

to think about theory, you missed the time

45:15

travel movie. For me, I don't want to think about any

45:17

of that stuff. I want to right,

45:20

I want to get caught up in the adventure of it all, you

45:22

know what I mean. I want to be I want to be in the

45:24

fantasy of it all, because really that's

45:26

what it is. And by the time they got to

45:28

Return of the Jedi, which is why it's my

45:30

third favorite. Um

45:32

bum. It's like sailing. You just

45:35

ride in the wind and it's taking you there. You

45:37

know what I mean. It's that's TV when I

45:39

go sailing. Oh

45:42

man. So Return to the Jedi is my number four.

45:45

Like what I really like about Return of the Jedi. It's

45:47

for me again, going back to loving

45:50

fandoms as a whole. Return

45:52

of the Jedi establishes what a trilogy

45:55

looks like like. It's how all modern

45:57

trilogies must go back to Return of the

45:59

Jedi and look at that art. What

46:01

does that hero's final journey look like?

46:03

It is an ending piece for one

46:05

of the greatest trilogies of all time. Right, We

46:08

also get one of the most iconic costumes

46:10

in Star Wars universe. It's the latest costume.

46:12

Feel how you do about it, It's iconic.

46:15

It's still slays at all of the cons It's

46:17

amazing and beautiful and like, it's

46:20

awesome. It really showed you the

46:24

entirety of Princess Leia

46:26

too, though, you know what I mean. Not only a

46:28

great thinker, not only was she a

46:30

great leader, Not only was she a

46:33

great mind and motivator

46:35

of men and women,

46:38

but she could also freaking

46:40

seduce the most

46:43

vile gangsters

46:45

in the galaxy. Not only

46:47

was she a tactical

46:50

genius on the

46:52

battlefield, she was a

46:54

tactical genius

46:56

of the male species.

46:59

As it is if you think about the Corey

47:01

Three, Luke plays like the

47:03

night Right. He's a hero who's honorable but

47:06

pure good, chaotic. Then

47:08

you have Han who's the road like

47:11

Rapscallion, who's out here shooting

47:13

people and he's not sure what side he's gonna land.

47:16

Leah is a spy and it's awesome,

47:18

and she uses literally her chains

47:21

oppression to suffocate her oppressor.

47:24

It's so good. And then later on Indur

47:26

she's got the gun and she's running around the woods

47:28

like taking people out like it is stunning

47:31

to watch. Lee is like arc and development

47:33

and the fact that she gets to be a real authentic

47:36

person. And again, if we look at a lot of early sci

47:38

fi women are often strictly

47:40

just the sex objects, Leah had a

47:42

full rounded, whole personality and it's what made

47:44

a lot of women endeared to the Star

47:47

Wars legacy. This movie also has a redemption

47:49

of Lando, who comes back and decides

47:51

like on second thought, I'll actually be

47:53

a good person and say, my friends,

47:57

you know, Lando redeemed himself. I think when

47:59

he rescued Chewbacca

48:01

and Princess Laya from Cloud City.

48:03

I have this argument all the time, and I

48:05

think Billy D. Williams would agree

48:08

with this. What was he supposed

48:10

to do? And that's

48:12

the situation, you know what I mean when you really

48:15

think about it. This is totally jumping off topic.

48:17

But in that situation, what was he supposed

48:19

to do? Was he how and

48:24

then gets choked and then get killed right

48:27

there? And there,

48:29

here's the thing, here's the thing. Han

48:31

Solo lands Lando

48:34

has been instructed get him inside.

48:36

We're gonna catch his button. We got him.

48:39

He's like, all right, fine,

48:43

He's already seen the

48:45

Superstar Destroyer because

48:48

that's what Vada is rolling around and in this movie,

48:50

at this point, he's

48:53

seen the fleet of Star Destroyers

48:55

at a company, the Superstar

48:58

Destroyer. He knows about the Death

49:00

Star. He knows what the Death Star was.

49:04

Not only that, he knows Boba

49:06

Fett. He's met Boba

49:08

Fett before. He knows

49:10

Han Solo and Boba Fett got beef

49:12

from back in the day. He's

49:15

caught off, He's imagine hanging

49:17

out and out of nowhere here comes Boba Fett and

49:19

here comes Darth Vader, two of the baddest

49:22

villains ever. Ever, what's

49:25

he supposed to do? Say

49:27

to Han Solo, Yo, get

49:30

out of here. Vader and Boba Fetta

49:32

here and they're gonna kill you as soon as you walk

49:34

into that door, as soon as as

49:37

soon as right as soon as the fucking lifts

49:39

off. Ot to know. He's

49:45

choked out. And then he is bombarded

49:47

with green lasers from the Star Destroyers

49:51

and is destroyed very much

49:53

like Jeddah.

49:55

Without one laser, it's just a

49:57

bombardment. So what was he supposed

49:59

to too? So the redemption for me

50:02

was when he was like, I'm gonna try and save Han Solo.

50:04

Not only am I going to do that, I'm going to risk

50:06

my life. So yeah, and it starts

50:08

in the Empire strikes back, But you're absolutely right. By

50:10

the time returning to Jedi comes at

50:12

the end of that whole job of sequence, Lando

50:16

Calrissi and not only has redeemed himself by

50:18

saving his pal from back in the day,

50:21

but he is now a general. Look at him, he's a

50:23

general in the Rebel Alliance because of it, and

50:26

that goes on to lead the rebels against

50:29

the Empire and the Battle of Indoor and

50:31

it's amazing, and it's one of the best battles

50:34

in the series. Not my favorite, but one of

50:36

the best. There's a better space battle in the

50:38

series than that space battle. I don't

50:40

even know if it's a space battle. Really, it's more of

50:42

a comedy sequence. But we'll get into that,

50:44

because that's that's not my

50:46

next one, but we'll get into that. So which is okay? Okay?

50:49

So that was my number four? Was the Return of the

50:51

Jedi. What's yours? My number four

50:53

is The Force Awakens. Believe it or not. I

50:56

like how we're just one behind. That's my number

50:58

five, you know. I think The Force

51:00

Awakens was the best reintroduction

51:04

into Star Wars. So it was it

51:06

thirty years later? Mm hmm. There

51:09

were a lot of people who

51:11

hadn't seen the

51:13

Clone Wars, who hadn't watched the Clone Wars. There

51:15

were a lot of people who hadn't watched

51:18

the trilogies, whether it be

51:21

the prequels

51:23

or the originals. It

51:26

needed an introduction and it needed

51:28

to be something new. And we needed

51:30

to follow a different type of character,

51:33

and but it's still needed to

51:36

feel like Star Wars, and we needed

51:38

to still be reminded of Star Wars

51:40

from the past. You know, you can't

51:42

remake Star Trek

51:45

and not have the Enterprise

51:47

in it, no matter what it is, you know what I mean, It has

51:49

to be some star Fleet has

51:51

to be introduced in some way. So

51:53

in some way these heroes

51:55

of the past from the original

51:58

trilogy needed to be reintroduced.

52:00

If not, they needed to not be there, and

52:03

they chose to put them in the movie. The

52:05

only way that works is if they're long gone, like they're

52:07

dead and gone in their fossils and these

52:09

people, you know, it's like the

52:12

Egyptians. That's the only way it works if

52:14

you don't have the original trilogy

52:16

characters in The Force Awakens,

52:19

and that's to take place so far in the future

52:21

that none of this matters anymore, right, yeah,

52:24

or you touch into the

52:26

nostalgia what we all grew

52:28

up on. And so The Force Awakens is that for

52:31

me, and it rekindles a storyline

52:33

that body wonders about. And

52:36

that's what happened after

52:38

Happily ever after um

52:41

and in some places, and Mrs.

52:43

I think this is where I think a lot of the flaws

52:46

in Star Wars start to appear. In

52:48

my opinion, From this point on, I'll

52:50

have a bunch of not negative

52:52

things to say, but things where I'm like, m I

52:55

don't understand why. Yeah,

52:58

and see your point. I agree that we needed

53:00

new things in the series and to me, not enough

53:03

movie. To me, it feels like a very

53:05

safe movie, which, to be fair, I don't

53:07

know what else Disney was supposed to do going back

53:09

to your Land with it. I don't know what else they were supposed to do. It's

53:12

a huge franchise, obviously, as you and I sit

53:14

here talking and debating our opinion,

53:16

fans are fervent and and have very

53:18

strong feelings about it. It was their

53:20

first for a into this universe.

53:23

It's a scary space to be I don't envy

53:25

them that position at all, But to me,

53:28

it was just it felt too much like all

53:30

the things I had seen happened before,

53:32

and that bothered me a little bit. But I

53:35

did like a lot of the chemistry between some of the new characters.

53:37

I like that they had the straight up balls to

53:40

kill Han Solo that took guts. Okay,

53:42

I never ever thought we would lose

53:44

Han Solo that way in a movie,

53:47

and yet it speaks so true to who that character

53:49

is, someone who isn't sure he cares,

53:51

but it's at the right moment, always willing

53:53

to sacrifice. That felt honestly, it's

53:56

it's so much of I'm not sure

53:58

I like that, but this worked really well. It's

54:00

the way from me. It tears me straight down the

54:02

middle. I like ray Fin

54:04

and Poe together. I liked Kilo

54:07

and his crazy anger. I

54:09

liked the saber fight in the forest.

54:12

I love Mosquinada, and just this idea

54:14

of someone who is not all

54:17

like Yoda. She's out here running Cantina. She's not trying

54:19

to raise no baby. She's just like here, sword,

54:21

go do your best. There's like

54:23

something about all of that energy that was great.

54:26

But then you know, Leah

54:28

walks past Chewy, and I'm confused

54:30

again. There's a bunch of there's a bunch

54:32

of things that do not make

54:34

sense. Right.

54:37

Well, Leah walking past Chewy at

54:39

the end of the movie does not make sense. She's

54:42

not now. Granted she's seen them already

54:44

before, but Han Solo just died

54:47

just now, all

54:49

of this could have made sense if

54:52

later on stories connected

54:55

and this is These are reasons why I have problems

54:58

with your number two movie being

55:01

the last Jedi serious.

55:04

Anyway, let's move on. I digress.

55:06

So your fifth is The

55:08

Force Awakens. My

55:11

fifth is Revenge of

55:13

the Sith. Oh another divergence.

55:16

Okay,

55:16

why I

55:18

feel like That's when George Lucas finally figured

55:21

out. Okay, I

55:23

have all of this capability now, and

55:26

with this capability comes great

55:28

responsibility. How

55:31

can I make this the most

55:33

epic of because I'm not gonna do this again.

55:36

I'm never gonna do this again. He was very

55:39

clear about that. But when this is done,

55:42

I want everybody to be like wow.

55:44

Visually, it's one of the best things I've ever seen.

55:47

I am satisfied on why Darth Vader

55:50

became a sixth Lord. It

55:53

seemed like nonsense in the beginning.

55:55

What is this journey that we're going on?

55:58

How is this? I know how the journey ends,

56:01

but how are we gonna get to this ending with

56:03

everything that he set forward? You

56:06

know what I mean? Is it gonna

56:08

be jealousy? Because you

56:10

know, is there a twist coming? Is

56:13

Luke Skywalker not really Anakin

56:15

Skywalker's kid is Luke

56:17

Skywalker really Obi Like all

56:20

of these things are coming into play, you know

56:22

what I mean. Like, by the time

56:24

you get to Revenge of the Sip, you're like, Okay,

56:26

we now see how powerful Anakin is.

56:30

We see how powerful Obi

56:32

Wan Kenobi is as well, and

56:35

Anakin is just a little bit more powerful

56:37

than that. Anakin is so powerful that he defeats

56:41

the Ultimate sets Lord and Dooku. You

56:43

know what I mean when you look at Anakin

56:45

at this point in your mind,

56:47

if you go and watch this movie as a Star

56:50

Wars fan and you know the Lord, this

56:52

is what the Emperor's like. If I get

56:54

this kid, it's a rap for everybody.

56:57

I don't care if he wears a mask. I don't care

56:59

if they see it's face. I don't care if they look

57:01

at him and they're like, he's the most handsome kid on the planet

57:03

when they see him his ability

57:06

and what he's done in the Clone Wars.

57:08

If I have this kid by my side, it's

57:10

a wrap for everybody. No one can

57:13

stop me. No one can stop

57:15

me. I can even be like, yo, you know

57:17

what, Anakin, you pretend like

57:19

you rule the galaxy

57:21

I'll sit back just as the Emperor

57:24

as he does always, and I'll let you do

57:26

that. Yeah, yeah, but

57:29

I don't know as he does always,

57:32

events take place to where Okay, now

57:34

the Emperor has to be a little bit more. Okay,

57:36

now I need to have target. But he

57:40

puts people out there and protects himself.

57:42

That's how when we get to episode

57:44

nine, he's able to just reamergs

57:47

like he's always in the background, allowing

57:49

other people to take charge

57:51

and be the focal point for

57:54

him. That

57:56

that was our that was our long list. Yes,

57:59

we're probably never got to talk about it again. So

58:01

that's why it took so long. There's

58:04

so much to explore in Star Wars. Will be looking

58:06

more specifically at certain things, specific

58:08

fights, a particular lightsaber.

58:11

We're gonna go really into the finite details of

58:13

specific items and stories and

58:15

characters. We should also tell the films.

58:17

Feel free to send in your core

58:20

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58:22

or on our twitters flooded,

58:25

flooded, let us know that you're listening, let us

58:27

know your opinions on your nine,

58:29

your favorite nine in your order. If

58:32

any of you say the Rids of Skywalker first,

58:35

you don't qualify. I'm just joking, King,

58:38

I'm just joking. I'm just

58:41

we We love all fans and all fandoms,

58:43

and if you like something we don't like, it's not a judgment

58:46

against you. You can like whatever part of

58:48

Star Wars you like. You can't like that ship

58:50

I don't enjoy. That's okay, you know,

58:52

we we just ship. Don't you

58:55

enjoy. Listen, we'll get into it later.

58:57

I don't. I don't started

58:59

out. Let's start. You

59:02

know, the ben Kenobi

59:05

situation. It doesn't store my Louis

59:07

with other people's. I

59:09

I just Kylo and Ray and

59:11

then the Force wheeling who

59:14

cares over it

59:17

very quickly. You know how I wanted it to go.

59:19

I wanted it to be John Boyega

59:21

and Ray and everything everybody

59:23

did. And Kylo gets jealous

59:26

because John Boyega, the defected

59:29

Stormtrooper, gets the prize that he

59:31

wants a girl with the powers and

59:35

he can't take it, and that just fuels

59:38

and fuels and fuels his rage

59:41

because they have such connections. There were a

59:43

diet in the Force. They've

59:45

got powers together, but this

59:48

one freaking Stormtrooper keeps

59:50

getting in the way. You

59:52

know, as a queer Lady Poe and Finn was

59:55

absolutely end game and you know, whatever happened,

59:57

but it's you know, it's it's n they

1:00:00

you know, d in the Rose of Skywalkome by giving

1:00:02

you a kiss from two women at the end of the

1:00:04

movie. But Poet Finn would have been a great

1:00:06

that would have been awesome. Oh God,

1:00:09

if they're the way, they would

1:00:11

have just leaned into it a little bit,

1:00:13

Yeah, just a little bit,

1:00:16

John freaking Oscar.

1:00:19

They leaned into it in the press, junkets.

1:00:21

Why could you just lean into it in

1:00:24

the movie? They wanted it,

1:00:26

They tried, They lobbied those boys

1:00:28

and everything they could to make our dreams come true.

1:00:30

And you know what, that's why we have fan fiction. Okay,

1:00:33

you can send your favorite and

1:00:35

Finn fan fiction to me. I am Joel

1:00:38

Monique. On Instagram there's an underscore

1:00:40

between those things. Or on Twitter,

1:00:42

it's just Joel Monique. It's j O E L

1:00:45

L E M O N I q U E. That'll

1:00:47

where can the folks find you on the socials? Well,

1:00:49

I don't want you to send me your favorite Poe and

1:00:52

anything. I

1:00:55

don't want your porn. Don't send me a porn.

1:00:58

All the graphic photos, paintings.

1:01:02

Oh my god, never let sleep. You should

1:01:04

have done here

1:01:06

we go, we go.

1:01:11

Oh, you can find me a Donald underscore

1:01:14

aison on Instagram

1:01:16

and on Twitter, Donald

1:01:19

Underscore Phason just

1:01:22

put it out there. Perfect. Okay,

1:01:24

let's give us some of these questions. Who is your

1:01:26

favorite Batty in the Star Wars universe? Data

1:01:31

is pretty great. I have an affinity

1:01:33

for the Night Sisters. They are

1:01:36

deep cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah, They're

1:01:39

like the female version of

1:01:41

Malls people. They are witches

1:01:43

who use the force, and that's all you really

1:01:45

need to know. Are they the female version

1:01:48

of Malls people? Or did they enslave Malls

1:01:51

people? Are most people like they're because

1:01:53

they're the leaders of that planet, that

1:01:57

group, and the men are

1:01:59

some thing else. If I do recall in

1:02:01

the Clone Wars when we

1:02:04

meet a Savage

1:02:06

he is a bloodline of Mall

1:02:09

But isn't necessary like I don't

1:02:11

know, I don't know, but

1:02:14

it's a little bit not clear. Fans,

1:02:16

if you guys want to call in on this, this

1:02:18

is something that I well, I do welcome. We can have

1:02:20

this conversation all day and every

1:02:22

day. What is the

1:02:25

association between the Night

1:02:27

Sisters of Datha Mere and

1:02:30

what's malls uh zob

1:02:33

rock right, yeah, right,

1:02:36

So he's definitely different

1:02:39

from dartha Mere Night Sister.

1:02:41

So, fans, if you want to get involved, it'd

1:02:43

be great if we could reach out to the owners of the

1:02:45

Star Wars, but they ain't down with this like

1:02:47

that yet, so we gotta get we

1:02:50

gotta get them involved in a way to get them involved,

1:02:52

to get the fans involved. And so fans, you

1:02:55

know, if you know anything on this, because

1:02:57

I don't feel like going up on the Wikipedia

1:03:00

Wikipedia. Yeah, you

1:03:02

can right in get involved, be involved.

1:03:04

So you said the Night Sisters, that's your favorite.

1:03:07

Yeah, they're great. Our next question is favorite

1:03:09

lightsaber duel Empire Strikes

1:03:11

Back. Oh oh, it's a good

1:03:13

one. Oh man, I think my

1:03:16

favorite listen Grievous

1:03:19

Fighting Obi one is so

1:03:22

much fun. It's just a fun battle to watch.

1:03:24

It's not necessarily technically the greatest, it's not necessarily

1:03:27

the most important battle that we see,

1:03:29

but damn it. They're flying on lizards,

1:03:31

leaping down and they're twirling

1:03:34

and then they're on a train and it's just it's

1:03:36

a fun battle to watch. My favorite

1:03:38

is the darkest battle of them all, and that's the Empire

1:03:41

strikes back. I think that's out of all of them.

1:03:43

That's the scariest lightsaber fight

1:03:46

in the Star Wars juniverse.

1:03:49

I can go dark cuts two and say that

1:03:51

the mall Obi one final battle in

1:03:53

Rebels is pretty

1:03:55

spectacular. It's fast, it's

1:03:57

fast, but it's the first and maybe the only

1:04:00

see redeweal we see that's done in the style of

1:04:02

the Samurai, and that alone makes it

1:04:04

pretty dope. Right on. But if you haven't

1:04:06

seen the Clone Wars, or if you haven't seen Rebels,

1:04:09

I'm gonna say the scariest

1:04:11

fight I've ever seen in my life, as you use, we're

1:04:14

seeing Vader taunt Luke

1:04:16

Skywalker in the underbellies

1:04:19

of Cloud City. Yes, yeah,

1:04:21

it was. It was. It still gives me excited

1:04:23

today. And it's like bones hilling. What

1:04:26

was your favorite series outside of the films,

1:04:28

And that can be TV, comic books, novels,

1:04:30

video games. It's

1:04:33

the one that's on now, The Mandalorian. Such a great

1:04:36

obviously minus Clone Wars. Oh

1:04:38

wow, you wow. Do you know what? I like

1:04:41

the Clone Wars too? I take that cheese.

1:04:43

It's that's tough. I

1:04:45

like the Mandalorian. I like the Clone Wars. I liked

1:04:48

Rebels, I liked Resistance. I like them

1:04:50

all. Listen, they

1:04:52

all have a little something. They're all special.

1:04:54

But Clone Waris gave us Asoka, and

1:04:57

Asoka was my way into

1:05:00

loving Star Wars on a personal level. It

1:05:02

made it very personal to me when people are like, we don't

1:05:04

make a Solas, like, I will fight you. You know what

1:05:06

I'm gonna say, I'm gonna change mind

1:05:08

to the Clone Wars. Also because I'm watching the Mandalorian

1:05:11

in hopes that Ahsoka shows up. So

1:05:13

yeah, Donald,

1:05:16

that's what I like to hear. Oh my gosh,

1:05:18

but that beings that Mandalorian is great. Uh.

1:05:21

If you can go to any planet in the

1:05:23

Star Wars Solar System space,

1:05:25

where would you go for a vacation? Vacation?

1:05:29

Yeah, they

1:05:31

blew it up? Which one? They blew up a lot

1:05:33

of stuff. Well, they blew it up in Rogue one. They're

1:05:36

buddy. It's gorgeous, white sand

1:05:39

beaches, palm

1:05:41

trees. You're luxuriating

1:05:44

on vacation. I see. I would love

1:05:46

to be there. It just seems like it's water as far

1:05:48

as the eye can see. The dation.

1:05:50

The sea life is probably delicious.

1:05:53

You know what? I mean it's probably decadent, you

1:05:56

know what I mean. You're probably getting pearls and all

1:05:58

of that stuff to leave it, know what I mean?

1:06:00

Swimming with swimming with aquatic

1:06:03

like mermaids and stuff like that. You know that,

1:06:05

you know they messed up the ecosystem

1:06:07

when they started building all of that stuff.

1:06:09

I don't care. Yeah, I

1:06:12

don't care. Oh

1:06:14

man, I am a nerd on vacation.

1:06:16

I want to learn some things. And

1:06:18

I'm also a person who like if

1:06:20

Disney was like, what Star Wars movie should we

1:06:22

make tomorrow? Like anything with the dark side?

1:06:25

Please give me a dark side of this

1:06:28

is what I love. I want to go to Mustafar.

1:06:31

You want to You don't want to survive the vacation.

1:06:33

You just want to be like the

1:06:35

last thing I want to see on the erupting

1:06:38

hills of Mustafar. Listen,

1:06:40

It's like going to frands of visiting the catacombs.

1:06:43

You can go underground and see the

1:06:45

Sith Temple. You can see the spot where

1:06:47

Vader was born. Like it's a historically

1:06:50

like rich space, and I just feel it would

1:06:52

be really cool to go butt The door gets

1:06:54

open like maybe two inches

1:06:57

before you're like, no, no, I'm good. I'm good.

1:07:03

That's no way.

1:07:08

Okay, guys, I think I really do think it would be

1:07:10

great, But I hear you. Our next question

1:07:12

in a battle royal bracket, which

1:07:15

droid makes it to the end. So, if all the droids

1:07:18

from Star Wars are duking it out, who's

1:07:20

superior in fight style? I'm

1:07:24

gonna go k to s O. He's

1:07:26

got the height and the reach on all

1:07:29

of them. Are two can fly

1:07:33

projected arm up and slammed him to the guy.

1:07:36

What ha happened to the last droid that tried

1:07:38

to grab our two? He

1:07:41

got set on fire, turned to Bacon.

1:07:43

I didn't know metal could turn to bacon. I

1:07:46

didn't know metal could crisp like

1:07:48

bacon. Apparently

1:07:51

Are two got that sauce, and when

1:07:53

he praised that sauce on you

1:07:56

and sets it on fire, Metal turns

1:07:58

to Bacon. I'd really like to see in our

1:08:00

two versus Chopper fight. I feel

1:08:02

like that is where my big money is coming

1:08:05

in. And I'm gonna be honest, I'm putting my money

1:08:07

on Chopper. I love mart two down,

1:08:09

but Chopper is a murder bot. He kills frequently

1:08:12

and without remorse, and I just feel

1:08:14

like he would take everybody down.

1:08:16

I really do think you be Chopper and Kso in the final

1:08:18

battle and keep us would watch I leving

1:08:21

coming and just self destructed everything every

1:08:24

time, every time? Right?

1:08:28

Oh, a pretty tope

1:08:30

robot, don't He is designed to assassinate

1:08:33

All of the droids that we've named are

1:08:35

pretty dope, doesn't. I mean, even

1:08:37

the one through solo. Yeah?

1:08:39

Yeah, it L three, L three three

1:08:41

seven even she even out three

1:08:44

man like L three is the falcon, you

1:08:46

know what I mean? Like that's true,

1:08:48

and it makes so much sense to why the ship

1:08:50

is so temperamental and why do you know what I mean?

1:08:52

And the nav computer all of

1:08:54

these things. Man, And she's voiced by

1:08:56

the baddest Phoebe waller Bridge, so you

1:08:58

know, I get I get it. It It would be

1:09:01

it would be a showdown for the centuries.

1:09:03

Disney. That's an idea you can have for free. Break

1:09:05

it up, all of the troys and let's watch it

1:09:07

go down. If you could choose a squadron

1:09:10

of pilots, I'm gonna say, for Max,

1:09:13

which pilots from the Star Wars universe would you choose?

1:09:16

Well wed g Entillies, Yeah,

1:09:18

of course, po Dameron. Okay,

1:09:21

I mean nobody's I'd never heard of light speed

1:09:23

skipping in my life until po Dameron. So

1:09:25

you know what, that is absolutely fair on

1:09:28

Solo Okay, Anakin

1:09:30

Skywalker, Okay, that's a good

1:09:33

list. That's great. I would say Harrah, you

1:09:35

know, because she survived all of the battle.

1:09:39

I would say Harro. But I don't

1:09:41

know, man, she always has a crew.

1:09:43

I don't know, man, I don't know, man. I

1:09:46

want to I want to throw her in there. So

1:09:49

difficult because I want to throw Lando in there.

1:09:51

Also, like this is all for you

1:09:53

can't do or like, let's do that's

1:09:56

not even a squadron when you really think, I

1:10:00

don't know

1:10:03

too many Donalds.

1:10:06

Okay, so let's take

1:10:08

Poe out. Okay,

1:10:11

well do wedge Anakin

1:10:13

Haarrah?

1:10:17

It's well,

1:10:21

I mean, because how do you not say Han solo

1:10:24

and how do you not say Lando Calrissian and

1:10:26

how do you not say Chewbacca like the three of them should

1:10:28

all be and nine Nub also

1:10:31

like those four flying

1:10:34

a piece of junk

1:10:37

pretty much more Lando

1:10:40

and nine Nub when they're going in

1:10:42

the belly of a death Star in a

1:10:44

transport, not even in a freaking

1:10:47

fighter in a transport. Yeah,

1:10:51

I don't know, man, that's a tough one. This is gonna take forever.

1:10:54

Okay, I'll give you, I'll give you.

1:10:55

You're gonna question them all watch

1:10:58

Yeah, sure

1:11:00

again. She sho my main. She's my bottom

1:11:02

and I love her and keep her close to

1:11:04

be Rod and

1:11:07

Ro. Holdo is the best pilot in the galaxy.

1:11:10

Do hold she went

1:11:13

to my speed into a into a hard

1:11:15

destroyed. It's hard to Christoph flee. It's

1:11:18

hard to miss a flee. Hey,

1:11:20

y'all are hilarious. Be if

1:11:23

you again read the books.

1:11:26

Okay, you're alienating a whole

1:11:29

bunch of people, right, I don't care.

1:11:31

It's my squadron. There are few people

1:11:33

that have read The Princess of alder On. Whatever

1:11:36

the name of the which you should absolutely

1:11:38

pick up. It's a masterpiece of

1:11:40

a book and informs you on one of the

1:11:42

greatest characters in Star Wars and introduces

1:11:45

you to one of my favorite characters, Holdo,

1:11:47

who was part of my squadron. Thing, who is the best

1:11:49

pilot in the galaxy best.

1:11:52

I said, she's coming into my bottom,

1:11:55

my main, and I love her. I'm gonna take po

1:11:57

sure, because he's funny, and I feel like he holiday

1:12:00

would have good conversations. He's a

1:12:02

good distracter. I like it a lot. I'm

1:12:04

gonna take Luke Loo's good

1:12:06

with the Fourtin knows he's doing. And

1:12:09

I'm also gonna take Hara, Yeah, because

1:12:12

she's gonna keep all these bitches in line. Do you think all

1:12:14

of them are better than Anakin? No?

1:12:16

But who do I want in my school? I don't Anakin in

1:12:18

anything. Okay, he's self centered.

1:12:21

He's like gonna, He's not gonna listen

1:12:23

to anybody's order. He's like MJ in

1:12:25

the fight. He's like MJ's If

1:12:29

you're gonna look at this in like basketball terms,

1:12:31

he's the m J of it all.

1:12:33

In Lucas Kobe, sure, but

1:12:36

I want people who are team players in

1:12:38

my squadron. I want to I

1:12:41

want to win the

1:12:44

second I don't want to win. I

1:12:47

feel like y'all miss the one. I feel like you'all miss the one.

1:12:50

To someone who learned from both

1:12:52

Anakin, Skywalker and Luke

1:12:55

and Ahsoka are two D

1:12:57

two, He's got to be one of the best. Absolutely,

1:13:00

he gotta be. If not the best, he's gotta

1:13:02

be one of the best. Well, you know what. Here's

1:13:05

the thing that you can always say about are two. He

1:13:07

can get you to the door, he never gets

1:13:09

you in you know what I mean? Are

1:13:11

two got looked to the point to

1:13:13

where he could line up and fire

1:13:16

that shot, but then would happened. Artwo

1:13:18

gets blasted and Luke has to do go the

1:13:20

rest of the way without his droid.

1:13:23

I think that's why they compliment each other because in Clone Wars,

1:13:25

Mace Windew and Anakin

1:13:27

are trapped under debris when they're getting hunted

1:13:29

down by Boba Fett. He

1:13:32

bounces out, yeah, and and it's

1:13:34

say, I'm just saying a pinch. I'm not saying he's

1:13:36

my top, but I'm saying he's gonna be in there because

1:13:38

he can. There's been a number of times

1:13:40

where Anakin has been unconscious behind

1:13:43

that behind that wheel and

1:13:47

no doubt, no doubt. Uh. And

1:13:50

same thing with Luke, you know, autopilot to get

1:13:52

to Daga, but all of that stuff. Um

1:13:54

also another moment

1:13:57

are two gets This is why ar two so dope. He'll get

1:13:59

you to the door. This is the most literal

1:14:01

sense of it all. In Return of the Jedi,

1:14:04

he gets to the door of the Shield generator

1:14:06

and what happens, he gets blasted. Now

1:14:09

it's up to them to figure it out.

1:14:11

So like are two to our two never

1:14:13

really solves the problem, but he

1:14:15

gets you there. Uh,

1:14:17

and that's why he's so special. Guys

1:14:21

would be in here squadron, I really want

1:14:23

to know. It's one of those questions where we could go on

1:14:25

literally forever, but we do have a time

1:14:27

amount of time we can spend together today.

1:14:30

So what ship would you be flying in

1:14:32

your squadron? Doesn't have to be a Starfighter,

1:14:34

can it be? Any ship? Could be any ship you

1:14:36

desire. Oh, shoot, well,

1:14:39

the Falcon, some type, some

1:14:41

type of y t M. I'm

1:14:43

gonna fly the Ghost because I only want to do spy missions,

1:14:46

right, some type of Karelian something.

1:14:50

Yeah, I'm definitely gonna go the Ghost because

1:14:53

good at getting in and out of places quietly, and

1:14:55

I would mostly take quiet spy missions.

1:14:57

I'm not a fighter. If you could switch words robes

1:15:00

with any character, who would

1:15:02

you switch with if I could wear their gear?

1:15:05

Yeah, Con

1:15:07

Solo got the dope's gear. Everybody's

1:15:11

no man dud war trench

1:15:14

coat in the forest. I

1:15:18

didn't think it's over because I think count Evil

1:15:21

as he is has a pretty sharp woardrobe. Right. Yeah,

1:15:23

he was a rich he was he was account

1:15:26

he was account his account and he

1:15:28

was he was flying everywhere he went. But

1:15:30

then I remember Patney has hell of gowns,

1:15:32

and I was like, well, obviously I'm taking

1:15:34

Padney's worddrobe everything she wears

1:15:37

his decadent and the gorgeous she had

1:15:39

that fly stuff. She was

1:15:41

like, she was like the cover of g Q

1:15:44

for the Galaxy, whatever

1:15:47

the ladies go to for their fashion. In

1:15:50

Star Wars, she was the point I'll

1:15:52

put it this way now, Boo was the

1:15:54

point of Yeah, that was the

1:15:56

focal point of fashion. If you ask

1:15:58

me, yes, to be wrong, but

1:16:01

you look at you talk at the chance the

1:16:03

Chancellor which flies can be also

1:16:06

and his sip garb. So

1:16:08

they also had the best looking starships too. In

1:16:10

my opinion that in One starfid

1:16:13

slick slick. Yeah,

1:16:18

her shuttle slick slick,

1:16:21

absolutely chrome. She

1:16:24

glides in. She's making a statement everywhere

1:16:26

she goes for your history. But she is the

1:16:28

Queen Victoria who made

1:16:31

everybody wear white dresses after she War one.

1:16:33

Is that level? Is that level is influential?

1:16:36

Our final question? And I think probably

1:16:39

the most important the question I think Star

1:16:41

Wars fans have been asking themselves from

1:16:43

get go, if you could pick anyone

1:16:46

to be your Jedi master, who

1:16:49

would you choose. There's the easiest one out of all

1:16:51

of them. I want Mace

1:16:53

Windu to be my master because he knew

1:16:55

everything. He's predicted it all everybody.

1:16:59

He told everybody what was going

1:17:01

on. I said, I sent a

1:17:03

freaking I sent the plot by the

1:17:06

by the sith to to to

1:17:08

to freaking trick the Jedi. Nobody

1:17:10

listened. Anakin's

1:17:13

bad. I don't trust him. I don't know he even said

1:17:15

I don't trust him.

1:17:17

Oh man. I want the dude that knew the

1:17:20

truth. I want the guy to knew it all

1:17:22

and who and who had the purple lightsaber.

1:17:25

I want the baddest m

1:17:27

effort in the galaxy with the light

1:17:29

sable to be mine master.

1:17:32

I want to slip on a shake

1:17:35

after I eat a tasty burger.

1:17:38

I'm second of all of these

1:17:40

ming snakes on the plane.

1:17:45

I just wanted to be trained by Samuel L. Jackson.

1:17:48

Ohod oh, because

1:17:51

I'm a kid for

1:17:54

Star Wars. Oh

1:17:59

man. It hard to argue with that choice.

1:18:01

I think if you would ask me, like fifteen

1:18:03

years ago, I would have said the same thing because he

1:18:06

was the only black like Jedi Master,

1:18:08

and I was really I was vibing with that and I

1:18:10

want a black teacher and that would have been awesome. I

1:18:12

would still pick him today, but you picked him so

1:18:14

too. Diversify

1:18:17

our list here, I'm

1:18:19

gonna say, I want Pocoon.

1:18:21

Pocoon, Well, yeah,

1:18:25

exactly. Not only is Master, he's

1:18:27

gotten the coolest like head space,

1:18:29

where like for me, like you

1:18:31

know, you saw both Fett and he was great, but he

1:18:33

was already iconic by the time I come around.

1:18:36

When I was sitting in watching the new trilogy,

1:18:38

it was probably who how was that guy? Because

1:18:40

the back looks so cool? Is that? And

1:18:43

then throughout the Clone War series we

1:18:45

just see him be like really cool and calm and

1:18:47

level head and he's the kind of teacher who like lay's

1:18:49

back in the cut and it's like, yeah, a gesture

1:18:52

footing, Okay, I see you, you're

1:18:54

good. Maybe try dodging that out and got

1:18:56

him in the face. What did we talk about? Like, he's

1:18:58

just not too and time. I feel like with

1:19:00

a lot of the Jedi Masters, they're like just always

1:19:02

on you like that. I can't learn like that. It's

1:19:04

very difficult for me. I I think Pocoon

1:19:07

would be a great master, patient, loving,

1:19:10

supportive. Yeah, you nailed

1:19:12

it, like that actually would be a great

1:19:14

master because he I don't know whose master, who

1:19:16

he really was. I don't know if we ever got

1:19:19

into that in the Clone Wars,

1:19:21

but he definitely was

1:19:23

Asoka's master for of

1:19:26

stint, whether it be a year or whatever.

1:19:28

She was definitely rolling with him for a

1:19:31

bit and taught the art of detective

1:19:33

work and everything in the underbellies

1:19:36

of Corussant, you know what I mean. Like,

1:19:39

and he was always an ally for you

1:19:41

know what. Yeah, I don't know if I would go Plocon,

1:19:44

but if I could be trained by a Jedi, Asoka

1:19:47

would be a Jedi. I'd like to be trained because

1:19:50

he has those white sabers and is out there teaching kids

1:19:53

on their own. Yes, I don't got

1:19:55

to just learn the ways of the Jedi. I can learn

1:19:57

the ways of the force, you know what I mean.

1:20:00

If we're going forest spenders, I would like to

1:20:02

learn from bind you. Although I imagine that would be

1:20:04

a lot of sleeping and waiting. Not

1:20:07

only that, that would be a lot of riddles where you're like, dude,

1:20:09

just say to stuff already, what are we talking

1:20:11

about? What do you mean? I

1:20:14

am the focus of the sky, but

1:20:16

yet I am sleek and ben

1:20:18

Do just say it? Please? If

1:20:21

you went dark side, who would you? Who would

1:20:23

be your master? Because mine would be assage manentress

1:20:25

for sure, nobody. I

1:20:27

would never want to be trained by a dark side because

1:20:30

they kill you or you have to kill them. Yeah, it's too much

1:20:32

torture. Man, you don't come

1:20:35

You don't come out of that looking the same, you know what I

1:20:37

mean?

1:20:40

Just corrupt the spirit. Look at it. One got cut

1:20:42

in half, One got burnt to a crisp.

1:20:45

Not one got electrocuted to a crisp.

1:20:47

It was very painful. One got a scar on

1:20:50

his face so long that you can't even believe

1:20:52

it, but it looks cool. And one

1:20:54

is the clone of an evil sith

1:20:57

lord. And it was took so much

1:20:59

for the clone to make it in life that

1:21:01

it stretched him and elongated

1:21:04

him and his you know, made

1:21:07

his face a little weird. You

1:21:09

know what I mean? It doesn't listen.

1:21:12

I don't disagree with you that the

1:21:14

sit are corrupted. Visually, it

1:21:16

becomes visible to everyone. You can

1:21:18

see the evil rolling off them. Uh

1:21:20

and yeah, I think the rule too is cool and I

1:21:22

love that guys, and the Sage Ventries is

1:21:24

amazing. So if option I

1:21:26

would go with the Sage. If you pick cloakundo

1:21:29

you you're also gonna have a tragic background because

1:21:31

you got to see him die in Order sixty six.

1:21:33

If you live, yeah, you guys gotta

1:21:35

do. It depends on where you dropped me in the universe.

1:21:39

They all died in order sixty six, so it's

1:21:41

like most of them. Listen,

1:21:44

windows got thrown out a window. He

1:21:46

may have been told to say he survived and stuff

1:21:48

like that, but he ain't been back yet. You

1:21:50

know, you guys chose the Soca though too, so

1:21:53

you could you know, still be learning stuff from her

1:21:55

right right as of right now Asoka

1:21:58

is the right choice is you

1:22:01

want to get out? She knew the most and

1:22:04

did try to have her thrown out of the Jedi. He

1:22:06

was like, yo, I don't trust this girl. She probably murdered

1:22:09

that person. Oh man, no, he

1:22:11

did well, Yoda did too. They just they all

1:22:14

was really hard on her. That was Yoda.

1:22:17

They all were. They all were like, they all

1:22:19

were very hard on her. They

1:22:21

all were hard on her except for

1:22:23

Anakin and Plokum. Yeah.

1:22:27

Okay, that's our show, guys, that

1:22:30

is the pilot for this

1:22:32

series. I'm so excited that we're

1:22:34

finally making this happen. I cannot

1:22:36

wait to bring you great conversations with the people

1:22:39

behind the scenes, people in front of the camera,

1:22:41

and the people who just love Star Wars. Obviously,

1:22:44

I think by now you know we just love

1:22:46

Star Wars. Yes, So listen. If you guys

1:22:48

have questions that you want to to ask us

1:22:50

and you want us to answer, or if

1:22:53

you want us to reach out to you know when

1:22:55

we do have our guests on, start

1:22:58

getting your questions ready. Now. We'll let

1:23:00

you know who's coming on in advance so you can

1:23:02

get it going and we'll have great

1:23:05

dialogues and great adventures

1:23:07

through this podcast. So please come and

1:23:09

chat. Get your sip on. When

1:23:11

I say, get your sip on, get you some Jawa juice,

1:23:14

get you some blue milk, do what you gotta

1:23:16

do. Sit down with us in this canteena

1:23:19

and chat it out. Yes, I

1:23:21

loving it. Thanks for joining us, guys. We'll

1:23:23

see you next week. Bybe

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