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There are some people in the neighborhood that wish,
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you know, why do we need to spend money
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on this and why do we need to do
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all these things? But I think as we've sought
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the common good, it's built a lot
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of trust and it's built a lot of relationships.
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It's not, we didn't do that to try to
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get those, but it's just happened and
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it's been really special and really neat. So
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we're sort of talking about one of my favorite topics today. This
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is your favorite topic? It is definitely
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something you know this, I get
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passionate about. Make a dent where
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you're sent. It's true. And you know, a
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preacher, it has to rhyme. So, you know, and we're calling it
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neighboring. Yeah. And that's the
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thing when you might think about making a dent where you're sent. I
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think a lot of people think I need to go
1:09
on a mission trip and that's often
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right away what goes in their head. And
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that could happen. And God could call you to do that.
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And he does often, but we often don't
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think make a dent where you're sent. Where am I sent?
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People ask me all the time, well, we know where you're sent. You're
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a pastor, you're a missionary. Where
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am I sent? You're sent right where you are
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in your neighborhood. So that's why we're talking about
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neighborhoods. Our mission field is many
1:32
times our neighborhood. And
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so I was convicted as we
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talked about this the last time. And I
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know our guests don't want us to feel
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convicted. They want to inspire us. So we
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have Chris and Elizabeth McKinney back with us
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today. You guys are great
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and you're inspiring because you are
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doing just what Dave said. You
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are impacting and loving your neighbors,
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the people around you. It's not just
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they are a project to lead to Christ
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because. that's as a believers, we
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want to fulfill the great commission, but you're
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there just to love each other. You need
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them and they need you. So listen
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to the last episode. If you didn't, where are
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we going today? Well, you know, one of the
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things you do when you start the book and
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it's called neighborhoods reimagined. Yeah.
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And I, and I wrote down in the
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notes somewhere along the way, as a society,
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we culturally broke up with our neighbors and
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grabbed me because it's true.
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Yeah. How'd we do
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that? What's that mean? I mean, I don't
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think it was intentional. And I don't think
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we purposely as a culture set out to
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stop interacting with our neighbors. But if you
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look now, I think if you were, you
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were to ask anyone, Hey, what does it
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mean to be a good neighbor in most
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neighborhoods across the country? I think most people
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would say, well, like leave your
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neighbors alone. Don't get involved in their business.
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Take your trash out when it's supposed to
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go out, keep your lawn up, keep the
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noise down your barking dog inside. But
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generally that's what it means to be a
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good neighbor. We live in this culture as believers.
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And if we don't realize it, we'll just
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swim in those waters and be like, well, I
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guess I'm being a good neighbor. I'm leaving
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my neighbors alone. But what we
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see in the beatitudes is Jesus inviting
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us to move out of our insulated
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and comfortable lives out
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into people's lives, out into the
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neighborhood. You can't follow
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in the way of Jesus as
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outlined in the beatitudes and stay
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inside. Right. And Jesus didn't, I mean,
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you see him, he is out there. And that's what
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the beatitudes are calling us to do is get out
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there. Yeah. And we sort of started yesterday, you know,
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walking through the beatitudes a little bit. And by the
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way, you know, when I picked up your book, I
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thought I've never seen somebody
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take the beatitudes and apply them to
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neighboring. Yeah. Which makes
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perfect sense when I was like, of course
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it, but you don't read it that way.
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And what you said, you know, it's sort
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of like we want to be comfortable. I'll
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read you the second beatitude because you have
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the false beatitude, which I love. Blessed are those
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who mourn for they. will be comforted, the false
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beatitude, which I love how you do this. Like
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here's what Jesus said, here's what we think it
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means. Blessed are those who numb out,
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for they will be comfortable. That's
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sort of what we do in our neighborhoods. It's like I want to numb
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out. I don't want to be uncomfortable. Uncomfortable
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is walking over and talking to somebody I don't really know very well.
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And yet Jesus calls us to that. So walk
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us through what that would look like in your neighborhood. What
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we learned from the beatitude that
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invites us into lives of mourning
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is that grief is really what
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happens on the inside, on the
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inside of us, when we're sad and we're
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sorrowful about something that's happening. And
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mourning is what happens on the outside, is
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how we express it. And
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we see in the Old
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Testament, there's really built into
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the people of God, a beautifully
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structured culture of mourning.
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The Israelites know how to
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express on the outside what's happening on
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the inside, whether it's tearing
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their garments or shaving their heads
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at time or wearing sackcloth and
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ashes. I mean,
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they kind of hold up their picket
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signs and say, no, this is not
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right, that this is the way things
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are. I'm not okay with this. And
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for us as Westerners, a
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lot of times our grief is more
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quiet and we don't always know
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how to bring to the outside what's
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happening on the inside. And
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I think as we see the
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brokenness of our neighborhoods and
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that we're insulated and isolated
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and we're lonely and we're
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over scheduled and we're depressed
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and we know that our
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neighbors are experiencing those things
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because we're experiencing those
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things. And so when
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Jesus invites us into lives
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which mourn, we lament, we
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say, I'm not okay with this.
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I'm not okay with the fact that
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there's this brokenness. in my
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neighborhood. Yeah, and a really great way
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to do that is to pray a
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prayer of lament, to take a walk
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in your neighborhood, and you
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identify something that is not right. It
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could be as simple as, we are
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also independent and isolated. Nobody
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knows each other in this neighborhood. And
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then you identify something that's true about God,
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but God, I know that you've created us
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for relationships and you have the power to
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connect us. You could do that. And then
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you ask him to do that. You say, God, would
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you please work in this neighborhood? Show me what
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you want me to do. Help me find some
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neighbors and we could start gathering people so that
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people don't feel so alone. And
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that's kind of a structured prayer of lament
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that will help you mourn. And the promise
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there is that you will
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receive comfort. Jesus will comfort you
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in that. And we don't
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have to look for comfort in other things. We
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don't have to numb out and not feel the
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weight of some of the sad things about our
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neighborhood, but that Jesus can stir that within us.
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And you see Jesus doing this in his life
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as well. He mourned. He didn't numb out.
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He didn't isolate from the hard things of this
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world. He was right there and
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he let that out. And so he's inviting
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us to follow in his footsteps. Yeah,
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I haven't really thought through that, especially in
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the Old Testament, as they're wearing
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sackcloth, they're putting ashes on their
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head, they're tearing their garments. I
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can imagine if we saw someone do that in
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our neighborhood, what are their kids thinking? But
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they're saying, oh, he's mourning.
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They're showing us and
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it's okay. And even
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a necessary and good thing to do. And
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I'm thinking the other thing that you said, I thought,
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oh man, what an easy way
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to start this whole idea of
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neighboring is walking and
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praying. Yeah. You know, like I'm
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thinking, oh, I could walk my call to sack, Dave, 10
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times, you know, but I do walk
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the neighborhood a lot and just start
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praying. We did that when
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we started our church in our neighborhood at
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a high school. We started walking
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around. the high school, we started
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walking around the football field, we put
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stakes in the ground begging God that
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people would come to know Jesus, that
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the students at the school would come
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to know Jesus. And I
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think there was a revival. That
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prayer piece is essential as we
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start looking to our neighbors and loving
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them. And walking grounds you
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to the place you live. So
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when you're walking, you're cul-de-sac ten
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times. You're saying, this is
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my place. I live here. God, I
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want you to be at work. It's
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taking back territory. I like that.
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Yeah. And we've recently started
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doing some guided prayer walks with our podcast.
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Because sometimes if you don't know your neighbors, it's like,
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well, what do I pray? Even? And
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so we've started releasing these 15 minute
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guided prayer walks where you put us in
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your headphones and we just kind of walk
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you through prayers to pray, some different literatures.
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Some of them are themed like we just
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did one on new beginnings and just praying
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for your neighbors and for new beginnings. But
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I think prayer walking and praying is
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a great place to start. I'm guessing they
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have no idea, but you are praying for
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them probably by name. Well,
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you know their names. Yes. Yeah.
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When we switched over to make neighboring our
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full time focus and we wrote our first
9:14
book, Place for a Purpose, our
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neighbors, they were
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a part of that whole transition. I mean, they
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had seen our neighborhood go from being
9:23
completely isolated to having
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an actual social fabric where
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we were interconnected and needed each
9:30
other and where people know
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each other's names. Yeah,
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it was kind of a transition. But
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our neighbors also know they're not our
9:39
projects. They know who we are. They
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know we need them as much or more than
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they need us. Do they know that
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we have ultimate motives that
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they would know Christ? Yes, they know that.
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But the ulterior motives
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of trying to bait
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and switch and try to get them to
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come up to our church when
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they're not spiritually interested? No, because
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they've seen us bear with and
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hang in there over the long
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haul, even when they're not spiritually
10:10
interested. Yeah, and I'm sure have
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you found situations in your neighborhood
10:14
where somebody's going through something hard,
10:16
right? And you show up. Oh,
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yeah. I mean, as you build relationships with
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people, hard things are going to
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come up. And if there is a
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level of relationship and trust, you sometimes
10:27
are invited into that. And what a
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sacred and incredible opportunity
10:31
to walk alongside someone. You know,
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we had a neighbor who was
10:35
going in for surgery. Elizabeth
10:38
was talking to her and offered to
10:40
drive her there and bring her
10:42
back. And Elizabeth said, Hey, could we bring you
10:44
a meal? And she said, that
10:47
would be incredible. And that no one
10:49
had ever done that for her. She doesn't
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really go to church a whole lot. I
10:53
mean, the meal train, we're used to that,
10:56
right? It's life. It's part of it. But
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that was not something that she had experienced.
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And it just, again, reminded us again of
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like, man, these things
11:04
that we take for granted in the church
11:07
are things that we need to bring into
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our neighborhoods and see God use them to
11:11
bless people and to reach out
11:13
and serve. That's really sweet.
11:15
Yeah, it's interesting to think, and I know
11:17
we know this, but I don't think we
11:20
often do it when somebody's going through either
11:22
a mountaintop and they had a great
11:24
thing going on or in a valley and
11:27
a Christian neighbor shows up and
11:30
doesn't do anything but celebrate or
11:33
walk beside them. That is
11:35
preaching the gospel because they expect you to show
11:37
up and say, well, if you'd done this right,
11:39
you know, you wouldn't be under judgment. Right. You
11:42
know, which is what we're known for rather than just being
11:44
a good friend, a good neighbor. Sometimes
11:46
you have neighbors who start
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expressing more of a spiritual interest when they're
11:51
going through those valleys. And
11:55
what I maybe wasn't prepared for is
11:57
that then at times when they
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come out of the valley. Valley, the spiritual interest
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can wane. And I've had
12:03
to just learn just how
12:06
important it is to still show
12:08
up and not pull back. If
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they pull back spiritually, they're not
12:13
rejecting you. Right. And
12:15
to not give up hope. But I can
12:17
keep praying because we have the snapshot, but
12:19
God has the whole picture. And if
12:21
you pull back when they pull back, it
12:24
says to them, you were really a project. Exactly.
12:26
You weren't a friend. I wasn't interested in your
12:28
entire life. And so that's
12:30
why, yeah, we talk about those ultimate motives.
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You value every single step in the process
12:36
and you match their spiritual pace. If
12:38
they're kind of getting more spiritually interested,
12:40
like a running partner, you speed up
12:42
with them. But if they're slowing down,
12:44
you don't run out ahead of them.
12:46
You slow down with them. And sometimes
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you crawl. And if they're crawling or
12:50
barely taking a step, you barely take
12:52
a step with them. Chris,
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as you were talking about the beatitudes
12:56
and what Jesus said and how this
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applies to neighboring. One of the things
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that you were saying, you like when
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Jesus said, blessed are you who hunger
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and thirst after righteousness. Why does that
13:07
connect with you? That was one
13:09
that, again, I just never really understood
13:12
until, you know, I
13:14
took a deeper look because what I thought on the
13:16
surface was that Jesus was saying,
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blessed are you who hunger and thirst for
13:20
the righteousness of God. Like when you're justified,
13:22
you receive the righteousness of Christ. And I
13:25
was like, okay, I just don't understand what
13:27
that means. But really what I think Jesus
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is saying here is it's a more of
13:31
an old Testament righteousness, which is
13:33
more of putting things right. So, so
13:35
pushing back against the effects of the
13:38
fall in this broken world, you think about,
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you know, there weren't a lot of Kings
13:42
that did this in Israel's day, but Hezekiah
13:44
was described as a righteous King because he
13:46
did all of these things. He followed God's
13:49
law. He set up storehouses of food and
13:51
took care of the poor and the widowed.
13:53
And so then I was like, Oh, okay.
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So Jesus is calling me to hunger and
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thirst like I would after a good meal.
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or when I'm really thirsty to do
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good things in my neighborhood,
14:04
to do good deeds. And be
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satisfied by them. Because if you think about
14:08
it, there are so many things that
14:10
we turn to in our culture, in
14:12
our lives to satisfy it, right? There's
14:15
success, there's money, vacations, and we all
14:17
know they always leave us wanting. But
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I think even that God has designed
14:21
us, even our bodies, to experience kind
14:23
of the dopamine when we even do
14:26
good things. God has hardwired us to
14:28
do good things. He wants
14:30
to call us to do those good things.
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Even if they're, you know, we talk about
14:34
removing the word just from your neighboring vocabulary.
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It's not just a wave, just a smile,
14:38
just a little fish fry. Those are
14:40
significant ways that you can hunger and
14:42
thirst for righteousness. And Jesus promises that,
14:45
you know, now in part we'll be
14:47
satisfied and one day we'll be fully
14:49
satisfied by doing those things for the
14:51
rest of eternity. There are mommy bombs.
14:53
That's right. Like I
14:55
said, we're wanna be foodies and there's this
14:57
thing in food called umami. It's the savory
15:00
flavor. What's it called? It's the thick flavor.
15:02
So you have like sweetness, you know, tart,
15:04
or sweet, bitter. Salty. Salty.
15:08
So umami is the savory. And
15:10
so foods like mushrooms, cheeses,
15:12
some of the meats, truffles, black
15:14
garlic, bring this savory flavor to
15:17
your dishes and you can have
15:19
what they call umami bombs. When
15:22
you do, let's say like a
15:24
mushroom risotto with Parmesan cheese and
15:26
black truffles, they all come together
15:28
in this synergy. It's eight
15:30
times the flavor. Eight times the flavor.
15:32
This makes me hungry. Really? And
15:35
so I think when we pair our
15:37
good deeds with the good news, there
15:40
is a umami kind of
15:42
synergy there where if we're showing up and
15:44
we're serving, we're helping, we're seeking the common
15:46
good of the neighborhood, then when we start
15:48
talking about our faith in Jesus, those
15:51
things pair together and it's a
15:53
kingdom explosion potentially, right? I like
15:55
that word picture. Right? Everybody
15:58
usually has a neighbor. They don't. like. Yeah. It's just
16:01
a hard neighbor and hopefully we're
16:03
not that neighbor. If you don't have
16:05
one, it's probably you but I think
16:07
I've heard this before. I mean, there is one
16:10
neighbor. She was
16:12
just dreaming every time she's
16:14
like talking for an hour. You know, I've
16:16
got kids and I like and I think
16:19
I've shared this. This is so embarrassing. She'd
16:21
come over all the time but I saw her come
16:24
over. I just dropped to the floor. Drop to the
16:26
floor. She's down. Get down. Because there's some windows at
16:28
the top and so I'm laying on the floor. I'm
16:30
hiding. You know, it's good of neighbors. I
16:32
love it. So like
16:34
embarrassed to say that. Okay. What about
16:36
if people feel like that? I don't
16:39
like they just bug me or they
16:41
drain me or they're just mean. You
16:43
can have four daughters like we had
16:45
three boys. They're in the neighbor's yard
16:47
and you know, we're probably
16:49
the annoying neighbor. So what do you
16:51
do when that happens? Years ago,
16:53
I remember Jane who was a
16:55
mentor for me. She would say
16:57
if your yes isn't out of
17:00
love, it's out of compulsion and
17:02
so I try to have my
17:04
yes be out of love
17:07
and not out of compulsion. So
17:09
if I have my groceries which
17:12
I often do and I
17:14
have kids I need to get inside, I don't
17:18
feel like I have to out
17:20
of compulsion engage in
17:22
some long conversation. I can say hey,
17:25
I gotta get inside. Let's touch base later.
17:27
So there's there's that
17:29
piece. I think when you're talking about
17:31
neighbors that we don't
17:33
like and this is where
17:36
we name names. No, we changed all.
17:39
We mentioned that but
17:43
in the last chapter counting the
17:46
cost, we really dive into the
17:49
the beatitude that invites us into lives
17:52
of flourishing through persecution
17:55
and in that beatitude, we were
17:57
really reminded Sometimes I forget
17:59
when I. Read passages about having enemy
18:01
is like why not has enemy is
18:03
There's no one in our neighborhood that
18:06
I really hate, but at the same
18:08
time. There are unseen
18:10
enemy is in our neighborhoods and
18:12
their their spiritual activity that happens,
18:15
Band Aids and in the wings.
18:17
There's a couple in particular who
18:19
I think of who they're a
18:21
little adversarial, And. They're
18:23
kind of hostile in a
18:25
sense. I think they know
18:27
where believers and I try
18:30
to remember. That they're
18:32
not my enemy. Yeah, they're
18:34
not. And also I think
18:36
of Paul, who. Was
18:39
initially a persecutor and then he
18:41
became the persecuted when guide changed
18:43
his life and I think okay.
18:46
This. Neighbor is gonna snobby and snippy
18:48
and they get going on the
18:50
facebook page and they're just kind
18:52
as you know. think they're a
18:54
hot shot. That
18:56
person guide to get a hold of
18:58
their life too. Flick got a hold
19:00
of my my ass. I don't know
19:02
the full story there so that helps
19:04
me remember I don't wanna fly under
19:06
the radar, I don't wanna hide my
19:09
face. But. I can love
19:11
am I can pray for them to the says
19:13
love your enemies Pray for those who persecute. You
19:15
view good to those they are first
19:17
to keep you hoof. And it
19:19
might not be this persecutes. I
19:21
mean we talk about our lives
19:23
do need to be informed by.
19:25
The persecution that some of our brothers
19:28
and sisters. Face. Around the
19:30
world. but it could also be
19:32
a marginalization or to i'm even
19:34
our kids trying to live out
19:36
their face in middle school. Yeah,
19:38
there's some marginalization when you kind
19:40
of stand up for your faith.
19:42
Or. speak out about christ
19:44
that's real and i think jesus
19:46
it makes it clear to were
19:48
persecuted are marginalized not because were
19:50
jerks or because of her politics
19:52
or because of our strong opinions
19:54
it's because of him he and
19:56
his because of righteousness so he
19:59
if we're experience seeing kind of
20:01
marginalization and it's not because we're
20:03
talking about our faith and it's
20:05
probably not persecution in the
20:07
sense that Jesus is talking about it. And so
20:09
I think that's also an important thing to remember.
20:11
Have you guys experienced some of that? I mean,
20:13
I'm guessing in your neighborhood, you're sort of known
20:16
as, I don't know, you tell me. Party
20:19
people. Party people. Is that what it is?
20:22
Yeah. Yeah. You've developed
20:24
a reputation, which is awesome. That is awesome. Yeah.
20:27
It looks different for everyone. Yeah. You're
20:29
the party people with a purpose. Yeah. Place
20:32
of purpose. Yes. Does that ever
20:34
become your next book? Party people with a
20:36
purpose. So many P's. So many P's. I
20:39
love that. Party with a purpose. If
20:41
you don't write it, we will. Is
20:46
there any negative to that? Are there people
20:48
like, yeah, they're the, they're that couple.
20:50
There are some people in the neighborhood that
20:52
wish, you know, why do we need to
20:54
spend money on this? And why do we
20:56
need to do all these things? But I
20:58
think generally overall, people appreciate the work we
21:00
do to try to help. You know, we're
21:02
not doing it all on our own. We
21:05
are inviting the whole neighborhood to participate in
21:07
pulling off these events and doing
21:09
things. And I think as we've sought the
21:11
common good, it's built a lot of trust
21:13
and it's built a lot of relationships. It's
21:15
not, we didn't do that to try to
21:17
get those, but it's just happened and
21:20
it's been really special and really neat. One
21:22
of my favorite events that we ever did was
21:24
an Arbor Day party, which Chris initially told me
21:27
I would have as much luck getting people to
21:29
my Arbor Day party. I was going to say,
21:31
what? Yeah. He was
21:33
like, this is like inviting people to an encyclopedia.
21:35
And I was like, no,
21:38
I love trees. We
21:41
had moved into a neighborhood, our
21:43
neighborhood where we still live that was
21:45
new and it was treeless. And
21:48
we had three spindly little sticks
21:50
and he would call me a
21:52
pacing lioness. I would just march
21:54
through our little living room thinking,
21:56
how can I get trees? And
21:59
so. I set out
22:01
to do an Arbor Day party
22:03
and we partnered with the Missouri
22:05
Department of Conservation and
22:08
you can order trees in bundles
22:10
for pennies. And so we
22:12
had neighbors. Little bare root
22:14
sapling, little guys. So we planted as
22:17
a neighborhood 345 trees in our neighborhood. Come
22:22
on. And we had tree bingo and
22:25
tree planting. Tree planting. Yeah.
22:27
Oh yeah. All the kind of
22:30
Earth Day references, but it was super fun.
22:32
And so I think our neighbors could see,
22:34
wow, they care about
22:37
some of the same thing. They care about trees. Yeah.
22:41
They care about our neighborhood in a sense of
22:44
even increasing our property values.
22:46
Like one of the reasons
22:48
why we were able to
22:51
plan so many block parties was
22:53
because our homeowners association, the former
22:56
president had lived in a neighborhood
22:59
where they had seen their property
23:01
values go way up when they
23:03
started having some of these social events.
23:05
And so it was important
23:07
for our neighbors to see that we
23:10
care about things that not
23:12
just what we would consider spiritual. Okay.
23:14
So what's your application, Dave?
23:17
I mean, my first thought was be inconvenient.
23:22
And what I mean by that is often to love my
23:24
neighbor and literally in our cul-de-sac
23:26
or down the street, it's
23:28
usually inconvenient. It isn't something
23:31
that's not, I mean, it could be natural. I walk out
23:33
to the mailbox. They're there. What do I
23:35
normally do? Go back to the garage and go in
23:37
the house. So you're embracing the inconvenience. Yeah. And
23:40
walk across for us a couple of steps and
23:42
say, Hey, Dean, what's happening? I mean, the
23:44
other day I've shared this last summer, I
23:46
was mowing the yard and Dean
23:48
was standing out there and we'd had him, him and
23:50
Nancy in a Bible study. And that
23:52
interest sort of waned and it's been like
23:55
a decade and he's sort of standing watching
23:57
me mow and
23:59
everything in me. Like I should turn off the
24:01
mower and talk to d Any sort of look
24:03
at me than I am I going to get
24:05
this done. I want to get done by this
24:07
time as I have a i'm coming back to
24:10
him and he started to walk. When I turn
24:12
off the more. Hey. What's
24:14
up and we are the spirit of
24:16
conversation while real interest. Around
24:18
submit seen on Tv about religion. He
24:21
knows I'm a pastor guy. certain. Handy
24:23
for he wasn't interested. Yeah anyway it
24:25
well enough it took me fifteen more
24:27
minutes while to do. The yards in
24:29
a would have a by and zoc
24:31
the dean but his started something cousin.
24:33
A week later he meets his mailbox.
24:35
He says I have a bible. Did.
24:38
You get me a bible that's so cool
24:40
of I've I have I can understand or
24:42
the royal ways you can read it. they're
24:44
better. M I T is on a real
24:47
journey young but they're still part. I'm his
24:49
legs. Ah this is what does it is
24:51
still my hundred. So for me it's like
24:53
to the intermediate things like the time. And.
24:56
Love your neighbor wherever you. Atlanta,
24:58
Have our new neighbors over. We travel a
25:00
lot, zoo or not. always home. that's very
25:02
young couple. This and sign of the haven't
25:05
lived shared lawns and they have a one
25:07
year old so I'd love to have them
25:09
over. We've taken them food bets. I feel
25:11
like were always so busy and. Yeah,
25:14
I wanted to. the I would just say
25:16
this Mckinney's you Guys inspires me Undies does.
25:18
But our listeners our say this to our
25:21
listeners. their pride think I'm. I.
25:23
Want to be the party with a purpose people? Analyzers
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to see. A
25:29
lot of as we don't know really and
25:31
I'm didn't know Bobby and Bar but you
25:33
guys have created a it's almost like an
25:35
adventure. To live in
25:37
your neighborhood as I don't is live there. How
25:40
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is what you were hoping. It gives you a vision,
26:02
but also gives you a strategy. It isn't just
26:05
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It's like, how? Well, here's some really easy
26:10
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26:25
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26:28
for all you're doing. Thank you guys. Thank you.
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The party with the purpose. I'm
26:47
Shelby Abbott. You've been listening to David
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