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Rankings Movers? NFL Players With the Most To Gain or Lose from the NFL Draft (04/17 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Rankings Movers? NFL Players With the Most To Gain or Lose from the NFL Draft (04/17 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Rankings Movers? NFL Players With the Most To Gain or Lose from the NFL Draft (04/17 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Rankings Movers? NFL Players With the Most To Gain or Lose from the NFL Draft (04/17 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Rankings Movers? NFL Players With the Most To Gain or Lose from the NFL Draft (04/17 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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he stays at his feet. He's

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2023 NFL Draft, there weren't too many players who

1:52

were negatively impacted

1:57

by a rookie being brought in.

2:00

in. Now that could be a different story

2:02

this year as we are expecting three stud

2:04

wide receivers to hopefully go in the top

2:06

ten. I think you could obviously look at

2:08

Tyler Algier who was negatively affected last year

2:10

by a running back being brought in. Maybe

2:13

David Montgomery was as well as they

2:15

drafted Jameer Gibbs but will things be

2:18

different this year? We do have some

2:20

pretty high profile offenses, some quarterbacks like

2:22

Josh Allen that need a wide receiver

2:24

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2:26

and bring in Dave and Jamie. I'm

2:29

Adam with Dave Richard and Jamie Eisenberg so we're going

2:31

to talk about players who could be affected the most by

2:33

rookies basically and I think

2:36

the tight end position is interesting. What about Dalton

2:38

Kincaid, Trey McBride, Evan Ingram, what if they draft

2:41

those teams draft a wide receiver in round one?

2:43

What does that mean? Dave, I'm going to kick

2:45

it to you. Give me one player who could

2:47

be most impacted, that does not say most, but

2:49

who could be impacted negatively or

2:51

positively by a rookie being brought

2:54

in on the NFL draft weekend. I

2:56

gave you a list of a lot of players

2:58

who I thought could be negatively impacted and it's

3:00

tough to pick one. I'm going to give you

3:02

a couple of long shots at running back that

3:04

could be negatively impacted and we've

3:07

talked about them. Travis Etienne,

3:09

Rashad White. Etienne's in a contract

3:11

here. The Jaguars have nothing great behind them

3:13

on the depth chart. Bucks have

3:15

nothing great behind Rashad White on the

3:18

depth chart. I would be a little

3:20

scared that both of those teams could

3:22

add a running back that could take

3:24

work away from the studs that we

3:26

love. Is it a bigger concern for

3:28

White than for Etienne as we sit here

3:30

today? I guess,

3:35

but I would understand

3:37

why both of those teams would add a

3:39

running back. Now, I would love

3:41

it if we get through draft weekend and neither of

3:43

them, it's really more of like what's the draft

3:45

capital spent because I would imagine that both of

3:48

those teams would get at least one more running

3:50

back in this graph class. If they do it

3:52

on day three, I'll be

3:54

happy. If it's day two, less

3:57

happy. In fact, the opposite of happy. What

4:00

would that be? Unhappy. There we

4:02

go. Yeah,

4:04

that is the opposite. I'm sorry. I'm

4:07

just trying to remember. Was Tank Bigsby a day

4:09

three pick last year? I

4:11

think he was a day two pick. I think it was

4:13

round three. Yeah, he was round three. I had three.

4:15

Jacksonville would be a little surprising if they added somebody to

4:18

me. Yeah, I

4:20

mean, you can see it on day three. 88th

4:22

overall? 88th overall for Bigsby. Yeah.

4:25

White has not... I thought it was day three. What

4:28

do you want to know? There's a huge difference between round three and

4:30

round four, but there is a difference. But

4:33

White has just not been a good running back. He just doesn't...

4:36

But you keep saying that. It's

4:38

true, though. It's true, though. Except for this

4:40

one thing called stats, which he gets a lot

4:42

of because he gets a ton of opportunities. Todd

4:45

Bull, the donor's meeting was raving about him and

4:47

called him an elite playmaker. I

4:49

think he said there aren't that many guys. But

4:52

you brought this up quite a bit about the run

4:54

defenses that he faced. That

4:56

is true. I didn't read the story. I

4:58

just saw the headline, Pro Football Talk, about

5:01

Rashad White getting the

5:03

Ram system this year and how he feels

5:06

or they feel. I don't know who... I just

5:08

saw it was like that White's going to benefit

5:10

or something like that. I'll try and

5:12

find it after we move on from this. To

5:17

me, that's a depth addition, not a replacement addition.

5:20

And I know that you guys feel the same way, but I

5:23

just don't see either player... And

5:26

I know the Jaguars have said they want to take work off

5:28

of ETN, but

5:30

not significant work. And I don't

5:32

think the Bucks want to take significant work off of Rashad White. These

5:34

are more handcuff-type players that

5:36

we'll be looking at as opposed to

5:39

tandem-like players. This is not going

5:41

to be a Taj-A-Sharp type, Taj-A-Spears-type situation

5:44

of someone who's going to get a

5:46

lot of work or Jaylen Warren is going to

5:48

get a lot of work. These are going to be strictly

5:51

backups that are looking at maybe five touches a

5:53

game. I got PTSD from you

5:55

saying Taj-A-Sharp. From

5:57

your lips to the fantasy gods, you got ears on

5:59

those guys? But if it is a day two or

6:01

a day three pick, then it could

6:03

be something that could turn into a tandem. But

6:05

again, we

6:07

have exhibit A. The Jaguars did this

6:09

last year and it didn't pan out. Not just because

6:12

they spend the draft capital on these players. We still

6:14

have to see how it all works. Right. Sure. It

6:16

may not be. It doesn't mean that they won't try

6:18

again. And it's not a great running

6:20

back class either. So right. I

6:22

don't, I don't see it for Jacksonville. Tampa Bay,

6:25

I do from a depth perspective. I

6:27

mean, Jacksonville bringing back Derners Johnson, I think was kind of their

6:29

indication of this is what they're going to do. They're just going

6:31

to use those guys a little bit more. And

6:35

I also think that if Jacksonville drafts are

6:37

running back, it could be an indictment on

6:39

on tank Bigsby. But but

6:41

but I think they're look they could certainly sprinkle

6:43

someone in. We just want to make sure ETN

6:45

doesn't lose the goal line work. I

6:48

thought like Bigsby going into the NFL draft

6:50

Bigsby in college was so good near the

6:52

goal line and ETN never really had been.

6:54

But Bigsby just wasn't really didn't really do

6:56

anything. I just want to prove their

6:58

offensive line to second. Yeah. Now, here's

7:00

the thing with Rashad white. I'm just going to

7:02

say, you know, look not a scout, right? If

7:05

you think maybe he's better than his numbers, one

7:08

thing he's really good at is avoiding negative plays. I'd

7:10

say his profile. That's the best thing that Rashad white

7:12

does. He's really good at that. He doesn't have a

7:14

lot of carries for zero or negative yards. Maybe

7:17

he maybe he's just been behind a bad offensive

7:19

line in a bad scheme. He is really good

7:22

in the passing game. So I got to give

7:24

him credit for that catches almost every target he

7:26

gets and he does make big plays in the

7:28

passing game. But as a rusher, you

7:31

know last year basic metrics,

7:33

advanced metrics, one of

7:35

the worst. So is that all on

7:37

him? That's the thing about running back. It's usually

7:39

not all one. It's not on the running back,

7:42

but Rashad white just I don't

7:44

want to go through everything, but you know

7:47

explosive plays yards before

7:49

contact after contact rush EPA

7:51

success rate. All

7:53

really really bad for Rashad white and then

7:55

just simply yard. He average 3.6 yards per

7:57

carry. I don't know a good running back.

8:00

does that. So no,

8:03

just to go back to the, I found the

8:05

story. Um, it was in regards to something he

8:07

told the team's website and

8:09

it was about Liam Cohen's offense coming from

8:11

the Rams. And this

8:14

is what he said. If you're a guy in this league, you want

8:16

to be a guy that is scattered for and respected. I've

8:18

seen that in people just leaving me out. I saw that

8:20

and wanted to make the most and make people fear me,

8:23

make people respect me and say when I come in the

8:25

game is not just 13, 14, meaning

8:27

Evans and Godwin. Number one, you have to worry about

8:29

too. Now your

8:32

point about his running is

8:34

clearly valid. His playmaking, which I

8:36

think is what Todd bowl is talking about. He's

8:39

one of the better pass catching backs in the

8:41

league. Yeah, for sure. And so that is huge

8:43

for us, which is why I think, you know,

8:45

you're looking at him if he

8:48

does not get significant competition, which again, depending

8:50

on the level of draft

8:52

capital they spend on the running back, like he's going to be

8:54

one of my favorite round two picks. I

8:56

love that we're spending all this time on two

8:58

guys that might not get much serious competition, but

9:01

there are other running backs. I've got six,

9:04

seven, eight. There might be eight

9:07

other running back. There

9:09

are eight other running backs that aren't

9:11

as sexy as those two names who

9:13

could get some competition. Probably more

9:15

seriously, we'll get more competition. Yeah. What's going

9:17

on in Jacksonville and Tampa. But it's more

9:19

fun to talk about. That's why I brought

9:22

it up. I like it. I'm just saying

9:24

that if they, if the bucks surprisingly draft

9:26

the running back in the second or third

9:28

round, let's say, right. Like

9:30

they could get for exactly for that

9:32

offense. I'm not going to rule out that guy

9:35

being the best rusher on the team. Well,

9:38

I couldn't see a scenario where somebody's

9:40

going to out rush Travis ETN on

9:43

Jacksonville. Let's say bring in a rookie. Like

9:45

would you be scared if estimate

9:47

went to Jackson? Oh, he's like my,

9:50

well, look, I don't like big slow guys. So

9:53

no, that's the way it would. There's not

9:55

the example. You would not make you scared

9:57

to take Travis ETN and I agree. No,

9:59

but But he would theoretically take work away,

10:01

but we said the exact same thing about Bigsby

10:03

last year. We just have to wait and see.

10:07

I don't think I got a chance to say this

10:09

when we talked about running backs on Monday, but Estimé,

10:11

Christopher Paso mentioned he ran a 4-7-1 forties or something

10:13

like that. He did run a

10:15

better 40 at his pro day. It was in

10:17

the four lives. So does everybody. Yeah, but he

10:19

ran a 4-10. I shaved off two tenths of

10:21

a second on my progress. Jamie,

10:24

was there someone you wanted to spotlight as a player

10:26

that's got a lot at stake? Negatively?

10:29

It doesn't matter. Oh, no,

10:31

possibly. I mean, my favorite one is obviously Kyle Murray. You look

10:34

at what he could get, whether

10:36

it's they stay at 4 or they trade

10:38

down. I saw a one

10:40

mock trade of I think

10:43

it was the

10:45

Giants moving up to 4, and the

10:48

Cardinals going to 6 and still getting neighbors

10:51

or Adunze. I forget which mock draft it was. Yeah,

10:55

they're in such a prime position to help Kyle Murray. It's

10:59

going to suck because the drafts that we've done

11:01

now, where his ADP is, which is where it'll

11:03

probably rise to, he'll be I

11:05

think just outside the top five quarterbacks if he does

11:07

get Marvin Harrison, for example. Yeah, he could easily get

11:10

back into being one of the elite fantasy quarterbacks based on

11:12

how he runs and what the weapons they can

11:14

put around him. I hope

11:16

they put two guys around, to be honest, from

11:18

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11:20

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going, no. No way. I'm saying

13:46

yes. Yes, he's coming off a

13:48

torn ACL. Yes, he's not a good quarterback. I don't think he

13:50

is. But

13:53

specifically, if Malik neighbors,

13:55

if the Giants draft neighbors, they've

13:58

never, they've never. never had a really

14:01

good wide receiver in Daniel Jones' time.

14:04

And here's just the point I would make. Why

14:07

are you crapping on Sterling Sharp? Sonny Shepard. I

14:09

wouldn't crap on Sterling Sharp. Shepard's fine.

14:12

But neighbors is a different beast. The Giants have never

14:14

been a good YAC team. In

14:17

the five years that Jones has been in the

14:19

league, the highest they've finished YAC per catch was

14:21

20th. They've only had one year where they've been

14:23

higher than 26th. I'm sure Daniel

14:25

Jones has something to do with that, but the receivers do as

14:27

well. Jones is a guy that

14:29

can take the ball and go. But

14:34

Jones two years ago was number

14:37

13 per game, but basically

14:39

tied for 12th per game with

14:41

Jared Goff two years ago. And

14:44

last year, if you just look at his four,

14:46

he only played four healthy games. He

14:49

had pretty very similar yardage,

14:52

passing and rushing to what he did in 2022.

14:56

Jones had career low touchdown rate,

14:58

career high interception rate. It

15:01

was horrible. Even for him, he was horrible. But

15:04

give him a good receiver and

15:06

can he rush for let's say 600 yards? That's

15:10

a question mark coming off 20th sale, but he's been over 700 on pace for

15:12

over the last two years. So

15:16

in his healthy games. So that's okay. I

15:18

actually think you've got a sleeper there in Daniel

15:20

Jones if the Giants can finally give him a

15:23

good wide receiver. There you

15:25

go. And

15:27

if the Giants don't draft a quarterback. They

15:29

will draft a quarterback at some point. It's

15:32

just, will it be a day one quarterback who's

15:34

going to walk in as a starter or will

15:36

it be more of a, he does. It looks

15:38

like someone says he sucks. Move on. He

15:41

does. I am not good, but he

15:43

runs. He runs. And

15:45

I would say like Deshaun Watson, for example, played

15:47

poorly last year as a passer. He was not,

15:49

he was not a good quarterback last year. He

15:52

still was not bad from a fantasy standpoint because

15:54

he had this high rushing floor. Jones runs even

15:56

more than Deshaun Watson. So I just want

15:58

everybody to point that, just put that out there. Malik neighbors

16:00

could make Jones relevant. I don't know if

16:02

Adunze can, because Jones can't

16:05

really throw downfield, but Nathan

16:07

can. Yes, he can. Are

16:09

you encouraged with the moves the Giants have

16:11

made to bulk up their offensive line? Because

16:14

I think that that's another, I think that's

16:16

a hidden factor for Jones, because I think, I

16:18

say this all the time, there are a ton

16:20

of quarterbacks in this league, when they're pressured, they

16:22

wilt. He wilts really, really

16:25

quickly when the offensive line doesn't do

16:27

a good job, and he's had a

16:29

terrible offensive line, but they've added one,

16:31

two, three, four veterans, five veterans, to

16:34

at least provide depth. If

16:37

that offensive line's okay, maybe Jones has a chance,

16:39

and you add a receiver with him. To be

16:41

a top 12 quarterback, though, that would surprise me.

16:45

It'd be low end, but, I

16:47

don't know, can you answer your point about-

16:49

He'd be a decent, bye-week replacement quarterback. To

16:52

be your point of view, like three weeks.

16:54

He only had Andrew Thomas for one game

16:56

last year, and

16:58

that's one of the best left tackles in football. Jones is the

17:00

guy, Jones is the kind of guy, if he's gonna be a

17:03

top 12 quarterback, and you scoff out there, he did it two

17:05

years ago. He was basically

17:07

tied for 12 per game. There were

17:09

people drafting him as a number one

17:11

quarterback last year. Exactly, he needs everything

17:13

to be perfect. He cannot survive a

17:15

less than ideal situation, but if

17:17

he has a decent line, and the reason why

17:19

I say neighbors are not Odundze Davis, I don't

17:22

trust Jones to make Odundze good, whereas

17:24

I know Jones can throw a five year completion,

17:26

and neighbors is the kind of guy that can

17:28

make that into something. All

17:30

right, some news items here. Let's talk

17:32

about the Chiefs. So Rishi

17:35

Rice was allegedly driving 119 miles per hour. I

17:39

don't even know if that's allegedly, I think they probably know that

17:41

for a fact. This is becoming

17:43

a pretty big deal, pretty bad situation.

17:47

This is separate, I know, I'm not saying

17:49

that this guy's replacing Rishi Rice, but Andy

17:51

Reid was talking about Kedarius Tony, and he

17:53

called Kedarius Tony one of the most talented

17:55

players on the team. So, you

17:57

know, Reid is kind of an optimist. But

18:00

we know Tony is talented. But

18:03

anyway, this is another team, Jamie, that could

18:05

be in the market for a wide receiver with

18:08

all this Rashid Rice, with a bad offseason

18:10

for Rashid Rice. How do you evaluate that

18:12

situation? I would

18:14

think they're still in the market for a wide receiver if Rashid

18:17

Rice never got behind the wheel of the park. Yeah. It's

18:20

not like Marquis Brown at 30 is the answer for them,

18:23

or 28, whatever, however old he is, is

18:25

the answer for them long term as their

18:28

potential number one or number two receiver, however

18:30

they view Brown and or Rice. So they

18:32

have to plan for life after Travis Kelsey.

18:34

They have to plan for life after Marquis

18:36

Brown. They haven't had a legit

18:40

number one receiver since Tyree Kill was traded two

18:42

years ago, because Rice is still young and Juju

18:44

was not the answer. So I

18:47

think they're still trying to rebuild the receiving

18:49

course. So I wouldn't necessarily look at this

18:51

as an indictment on they're expecting

18:53

Rice to be suspended for x amount of games.

18:56

They're expecting Rice to miss any significant time.

18:58

I don't think that's how it should

19:00

be viewed. So for people that are

19:02

selling Rice in dynasty leagues, make

19:04

sure you're getting good value in return, because you still play

19:06

the majority of the season. I don't know

19:08

how much the NFL is going to look at this and say we're going

19:10

to let the legal process play out, or they're just going to say code

19:13

of conduct and suspend them for a couple of

19:15

games. So thankfully,

19:18

nobody was, as far as I know, correct

19:20

if wrong, injured in the accidents,

19:22

or nobody died in that.

19:25

It was not no major injuries. They

19:27

are being sued for minor injuries both

19:29

of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is

19:31

clearly something to not scoff at, but

19:34

by all accounts in terms of how the

19:37

league will discipline Rice and

19:39

what that means for the Chiefs in the NFL draft, I

19:41

just don't think that should be an

19:43

indictment on where Rice stands on the team

19:45

or how should he be viewed in fantasy

19:48

long term, short term. Did

19:50

you see the trade that went down in our dynasty

19:52

league? It

19:54

was a Rice and a pick for two picks, right?

19:56

OK, so it was pick. 101,

20:01

Superflex, Superflex Dynasty, 101 and 206 for Rishi

20:03

Rice and 103. So

20:10

he moved down from 101 to 103. He

20:13

got Rishi Rice. He gave up, picked 206. Interesting.

20:21

Yeah. Did the team that gave

20:23

up the 101, are they set at

20:25

quarterback? I, because this is

20:27

a brand new dynasty league, right? So he

20:29

might've just had a bad first year. Yeah.

20:31

I think so. That was a breakfast club,

20:33

right? That was Tim. He

20:35

has to a Tyler,

20:40

Jared Stidham, Derek

20:43

Carr, Bailey Zappi. He is to a

20:45

Kyler and Carr. I guess

20:47

he, maybe he's okay taking, you know,

20:50

may McCarthy if they, or

20:52

Daniels, obviously, if he slips that far. And

20:55

he also had like, after one of the top three

20:58

receivers, seven, I don't, I don't, I

21:00

don't think I hate it. He, he

21:02

tanks. He lost every game last year when Owen 14,

21:04

he could definitely win the league this year. He's

21:08

going to have a good team. Okay.

21:10

He has how many first round picks? Oh,

21:13

I don't know. Yeah. He has a lot of first round picks and

21:16

he has a chance Spears, lamb, Metcalf,

21:18

Pitts, McClaren, Rishi Rice, Devontae Smith, and

21:20

he's probably going to have Marvin Harrison

21:23

or something like that too. Uh,

21:25

okay. Anywho, let's, uh,

21:27

let's move on here. Another chief's note that

21:29

that former rugby player, Louis Reese, Zamit is

21:31

going to start out as a running back

21:33

for the chiefs. Now, more important news items.

21:35

T Higgins expects to play this year for

21:37

the Bengals. Hopefully fences mended

21:40

there. Uh, Brandon Ayuk unfollowed

21:42

the 49ers on social media. He has

21:44

one year left on his contract and

21:47

then he'll be a free agent unless they come

21:49

to terms on an agreement. Maybe there'll be a

21:51

draft night trade. We shall see Kevin

21:53

Stefanski said there's no timetable for Nick

21:55

Chubb's return. Devontae Adams says

21:58

he wants to be in. Las

22:00

Vegas he likes Antonio Pierce he said he wants to stay

22:02

with the Raiders Pukin Akua said he

22:04

threw up in Cooper cups bushes during

22:06

offseason training I guess they were doing some

22:09

training every day every day threw up

22:11

on the lawn or the bushes and

22:14

yeah Pukin

22:16

Akua sir low-hagging fruit but I was gonna

22:18

make that joke but that I was like

22:20

I probably should have made it I don't

22:22

think I would have invited you

22:24

guys back if you guys puked twice

22:27

once I would have been like okay it's a fluke if

22:29

you start doing that twice I think you're done well after

22:31

you clogged Nando's toilet did

22:33

you invite you back yes

22:35

I have been back but I haven't used that toilet again

22:37

I did with

22:40

urine and toilet paper okay

22:42

it was Tim Tim

22:44

has three picks in the first one well

22:46

let's see Daniel Jones is expected to be

22:48

ready for training camp as he recovers from

22:51

a torn ACL then I think Daniel Jones

22:53

could be a sleeper if the Giants draft

22:55

get out what

22:59

else Justin Jefferson did not report

23:01

to voluntary workouts Cortland Sutton also

23:03

did not report to voluntary workouts

23:05

and neither did CD lamb the

23:07

Cowboys things is not like

23:09

the other the Cowboys signed Royce Freeman

23:11

the Eagles signed Devonta Smith to a

23:14

three-year extension Tennessee offensive coordinator

23:16

Nick Holt said that Taj a

23:18

Spears and Tony Pollard are interchangeable

23:21

yay that's

23:23

what we want we want ambiguous back

23:26

fields where you never know who's gonna

23:28

do what from week to week but

23:30

that's kind of what I thought would

23:32

Miami edge Jalen Phillips expects to be

23:34

ready for week one he's their best

23:36

pass rusher and he's recovering from a

23:38

torn Achilles Colts

23:40

the Colts signed the defensive tackle their own

23:42

defensive tackle re-sign him or no game an

23:45

extension two years 46 dollars his

23:47

name is different hold up hold up up Jamie

23:49

who are you taking first a Titans running

23:51

back or the rookie running back to the

23:53

Cowboys draft depends

23:57

is Jonathan Brooks healthy for a week one Okay,

24:00

what about the rookie running back that

24:02

the Chargers draft or a Titans running

24:04

back? Titans running

24:06

back. Dave,

24:09

which tight end did the Eagles sign? CJ

24:16

Hamuzo! Seattle

24:20

side at offensive line mid-lake in Tomlinson. And here

24:22

are some of the players who have been... I

24:24

thought that it should have been Hamuzu. Some

24:28

players who have been invited to the NFL

24:30

draft. Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, and Drake May.

24:33

Also, Brian Thomas has been invited. Darius

24:36

Robinson was a surprising name on the

24:38

invitation list. Not that anybody knows

24:40

who he is if you play fantasy, but

24:43

Pass rusher, Missouri. Wasn't sure

24:45

he was going to be a first-round pick. My guess is he will be

24:47

if he's not. These are the guys who are going, right? Going.

24:50

Right. So not invitations because they invite a lot of

24:52

people. Okay,

24:54

so I thought it was

24:57

invited. Did they invite J.J. McCarthy? I

25:00

would guess yes. He's the one.

25:04

He didn't. He was invited. Okay. And

25:09

Tom Brady says he's not opposed to a late-season

25:11

return. So

25:14

there you go. He wants to pull a

25:16

flacko? Maybe. Hey,

25:19

Gardner, the owner's coming down to pull. Yeah.

25:24

Players who could be affected by the NFL draft.

25:26

All right. Jamie talked about Kyler Murray. That's

25:30

a lot of passing games here, obviously. Can

25:33

I ask separately before we get into your list?

25:35

And this is actually going to include players on

25:37

both of your lists. But the tight

25:39

ends. You got

25:41

Trey McBride, Dalton Kincaid,

25:43

and Evan Ingram. They're top

25:46

six, top seven tight ends in

25:48

most rankings. And these are

25:50

three teams that could be drafting a wide receiver in the

25:52

first round. Jamie, are you concerned

25:54

about any of those guys? Do you think you could be moving

25:56

them down? That would be McBride, Kincaid,

25:58

and... Ingram? No?

26:03

I think first off what we talked about first or second on

26:06

the team and targets I think all three of these guys will

26:08

fall into that No matter

26:10

what happens Jacksonville

26:13

maybe if they were to trade up outside

26:16

of the into the top ten and get one of

26:18

the top three guys then maybe that changes things because

26:20

then you have Kirk and a high-profile rookie not that

26:22

taking one at 16 or 17 where there is Is

26:27

a non high-profile rookie, but I

26:29

think Ingram's established himself as a go-to guy for Trevor

26:31

Lawrence and Doug Peterson's offense We've talked about this for

26:33

years. He's a tight end friendly coach In

26:36

terms of the other two, you know

26:38

McBride was exceptional last year from

26:41

his time as the lead guy once

26:44

Zach Hertz was Let go

26:46

week six on and in

26:48

terms of Kincaid. I Just

26:50

think that this is going to be a huge year for

26:52

him as he's one of these year two tight ends that

26:54

that take a huge leap forward, so barring

26:58

Buffalo completely overhauling the

27:00

receiving core And I think

27:02

we'll probably take a trade at this point I don't see

27:04

them going away from Kincaid

27:06

as a top two option on the team Dave

27:09

do you think that these three tight ends

27:11

are in jeopardy here with a first round

27:14

wide receiver being added? Yes

27:16

with Kincaid the least and McBride

27:19

the most and I love what McBride did

27:21

last year at the end of the year

27:23

He was awesome But I don't I think

27:25

the guy who's gonna get a ton of

27:27

targets in Arizona would be Marvin Harrison if

27:30

he were to go There and then in

27:32

Jacksonville, it's just it's hard to see Evan

27:34

Ingram getting as many catches even

27:37

without an addition to the receiving core

27:39

but Jacksonville's got to do something and

27:41

I would imagine that they would add somebody Who

27:44

can stretch the field on the perimeter and do the

27:46

things that Calvin Ridley couldn't quite do consistently enough last

27:48

year? On the

27:50

first 11 games of the season before

27:52

Christian Kirk got hurt Ingram was

27:54

on pace for 127

27:57

targets in the last six games

27:59

after the injury, he was

28:01

on pace for 173 targets. So that is 46 more targets. Now I do

28:03

want to

28:09

look at, I didn't look, but I want to look

28:11

at Trevor Lawrence's past attempts. That may have gone up

28:13

because actually looking at the game log, Zay Jones was

28:16

stepping in and getting eight or more

28:18

targets. He only played in four of those

28:20

six games, but he was getting eight or more targets in

28:23

all of the games he played. So you

28:25

know that was a target replacement for Kirk. So it

28:28

may have just been that Lawrence

28:30

was throwing more, but I

28:32

did want to point that out. Like the numbers

28:34

really spiked for Ingram once Christian

28:37

Kirk got hurt. Sure,

28:39

middle of the field got more

28:41

open without Kirk

28:43

there. How about this, replacing

28:45

Ridley. Now he was third on the

28:48

team, Ridley was actually third on the team in

28:50

targets before Kirk's injury, but he

28:52

was by far number

28:54

one on the team throughout the season

28:56

in red zone and end zone targets.

28:58

Nobody else had more than like 10

29:00

red zone targets. Calvin Ridley

29:02

had, he had 24 end

29:07

zone targets, 26 red zone targets. So

29:09

that's a lot of targets

29:11

in that area of the field that need to be replaced.

29:14

That was the go-to guy for Lawrence there. And

29:17

then yeah, so yeah, I just want to press

29:19

you on McBride Jamie because he had no target

29:21

competition really. I mean,

29:24

Greg Dorch was second on the team in targets

29:26

in that last stretch with Kyler and McBride. So

29:29

they bring in Harrison. You still think it was

29:31

also before before Kyler came back to. Yeah, I

29:33

would specifically looked at the Kyler, the eight

29:35

games with Kyler and McBride and Dorch was

29:37

second on the team in targets. McBride had

29:39

like a 25% target share. They draft

29:41

Marvin Harrison. You think he can still be an

29:44

elite tight end? Yeah. Okay.

29:48

Who else would you like to talk about? You want to talk about the Colts Jamie?

29:52

Yeah, I mean, you know, you see them either in

29:54

the market for a wide receiver or Brock Bowers, especially

29:56

where they're picking. They're in the right range for it,

29:58

whether it's one of the top. three guys flipping,

30:00

probably O'Dunze, but

30:03

wouldn't be surprising if they reached for a wide

30:05

receiver, traded down and still got one or again

30:07

took powers. The

30:12

two-sided part of this would be how much is Michael

30:14

Pittman impacted by one of those guys and how much

30:16

is the benefit for Anthony Richardson? I think you can

30:18

make the case for both clearly. Richardson,

30:21

any additional playmakers that

30:23

can be added is just a boost for him because of

30:26

what he should be able to do as a runner and

30:28

then what he will continue to enhance his production as a

30:30

passer. I

30:33

don't think Pittman will be significantly downgraded,

30:36

but he

30:38

needs the target volume. I think given

30:40

the quarterback situation, again,

30:43

Richardson I think surprised us as a passer,

30:45

but as we've talked about time and time

30:47

again, is he going to be

30:49

the type of quarterback that elevates his receivers at least

30:51

at this point in his career? You

30:55

got to be a little bit worried for Pittman's situation

30:57

if Bowers or

31:00

high profile receiver ends up there. Now if

31:02

they pass on that, then Pittman's in a

31:04

great spot, but it would be

31:06

a little bit of a concern if they do go out and get somebody in

31:09

that range. All

31:11

right. Also on Jamie's list, Justin

31:13

Herbert. I'll ask both of you guys. I think Dave,

31:16

you had Herbert as well. Obviously,

31:19

they've got the fifth pick, so it's not hard

31:22

to envision a scenario where Justin Herbert gets some

31:24

help early, but how

31:26

high do you think you could see ranking

31:29

him if they take – I'll just give

31:31

him neighbors or a d'unze to

31:33

the Chargers. Dave, where do you think that puts

31:36

Justin Herbert? I think you're the high – I

31:38

think it puts him at 11th. You're high on

31:40

him to be – higher on him to begin

31:42

with, then. Because I'm expecting the Chargers to grab

31:44

a receiver early in this draft. If they don't,

31:47

he's going further south. Okay. For

31:50

obvious reasons. How

31:53

about you, Jamie? He's outside

31:55

the top 12 for me now. I

31:57

believe my 12th quarterback is Purdy, so

31:59

– If he gets one of those guys, you know, you

32:01

want to put Herbert

32:03

ahead of Purdy, that's fine. Right now, Herbert is

32:05

15th for me, so he's behind too. He's got

32:07

cousins actually because I think cousins' weapons are better.

32:12

I'm worried about Herbert. You know, it's

32:14

not just the receiving corps, it's the system he's in,

32:16

you know. And what we've seen from at least

32:19

Harbaugh's quarterbacks, college

32:22

and pro, is he doesn't

32:25

ask them to be difference

32:28

makers like we love. You know,

32:30

they can be, certainly. You know, Colin Kaepernick did

32:32

it with legs. I

32:34

think from the standpoint of Herbert, like right

32:37

now, this receiving corps is awful, is arguably

32:39

the worst in the NFL. And a rookie,

32:44

will that dramatically change things? I hope so.

32:47

But I'm still going to be cautiously optimistic as

32:49

opposed to fully optimistic. So he'll be a borderline

32:52

number one quarterback for me. He will not be

32:54

a top 10 guy. Like if you tell me

32:56

Kyler right now doesn't get

32:58

anybody, and Herbert does, I'll still take Kyler over

33:00

Herbert. Wow.

33:06

Jamie, what did you want to say about the Bills

33:08

passing game? And Dave too, I think you have Josh

33:10

Allen as a potential loser if they don't add a

33:12

top-wide receiver. But I guess I would say, you

33:15

know, what wide receiver

33:17

would the Bills have to draft for

33:20

you to feel confident in Allen as your number

33:22

one quarterback? I

33:26

mean, I'd go crazy if they made a big move

33:28

up to get one of the top three guys. And

33:31

so, I mean, he can't

33:33

go higher than one in that case. So what

33:35

happens if they keep their pick

33:37

in round one and they get one of

33:39

Brian Thomas, if he's there, Adanai Mitchell, Xavier

33:41

Worthy? Do you give Josh Allen the benefit

33:44

of the doubt, given that his receiving court

33:46

kind of has taken this step

33:49

back? I kind of want

33:51

to. I think he's earned it. Not only

33:53

is he like just, he's got

33:55

one of the strongest arms in the league, his

33:57

accuracy has gotten better and you know he's going

33:59

to. to bring it running the ball and scoring

34:01

a bunch of touchdowns on the ground. And

34:04

so I think I'm still going to keep them

34:06

at number one, as long as Buffalo does something

34:09

with one of their first two picks, they add another

34:11

wide receiver that can help stretch the field

34:13

a little bit. I think that's what they need is

34:16

a field stretcher because Kincaid, he can stretch.

34:18

He's a matchup nightmare at tight end, but

34:20

he's not like a big playmaker. He doesn't

34:22

have the same type of speed a receiver

34:25

would have. Curtis Samuel has been a short

34:27

area target for awhile. Khalil Shakir is a

34:29

good receiver, not a speedster. They

34:31

need to add some speed. They need somebody that

34:34

Alan can target on passes of 20 plus area

34:36

yards. It's a matter

34:38

of just how much we are going to

34:40

bank on what his rushing production was last

34:42

year by comparison to previous years, because the

34:44

yardage was relatively the same, but

34:47

his touchdowns doubled, you know, to go from seven, eight, which

34:49

is kind of where he lived to 15 is

34:52

that sustainable. And as Sean McDermott has said

34:54

time and time again, that's

34:56

not something that they want to put on his plate. They just

34:58

don't take it off of his plate, you know, and so it's,

35:00

it's hard to expect him to

35:02

rush less when there's the

35:05

lack of receivers who are available

35:07

to him on his own team right now.

35:09

So a lot

35:12

of what he did last year was not

35:14

because of Stefan Diggs. The threat of Stefan

35:16

Diggs is clearly important, but a lot of

35:18

what his production was, was not necessarily Diggs.

35:20

Now can he get by with Shakir

35:22

and Curtis Samuel is fast. I know Dave's point in

35:25

terms of, you know, down the field, that's not Curtis

35:27

Samuel is necessarily Forte or at

35:29

least the type of receiver I think Dave was

35:31

talking about, but Samuel and Shakir and Kincaid and

35:33

Knox and James Cook, like that's not the group

35:35

that you look at. And I can't sit here

35:37

and say that Justin Herbert has a terrible receiving

35:39

court and say, Josh Allen's is great because

35:41

it's not. But it

35:45

certainly would be a surprise if they're

35:47

not drafting a wide receiver. I think

35:49

that's what the sports books have it as, you

35:51

know, the first position. That

35:54

the bills will take. That's the

35:56

most logical odds. So we'll

35:59

see. Um, it

36:01

is, it is going to be telling when we come

36:03

out of the NFL draft, what our rankings look like

36:05

at that position across the board, because

36:08

Jalen hurts. Who's I think the

36:11

consensus number two quarterback, his receiving court

36:14

is as good as any in the league. The

36:16

third quarterback in Mahomes or the

36:18

Mark Jackson, one coming off an MVP season that you

36:20

know what he does with his legs and his receiving

36:22

cores for the most part, the same, if

36:25

not better with a healthy Mark Andrews and

36:27

Mahomes got a weapon, assuming received rice is

36:29

not suspended, you know, so the knocks that

36:31

we had on Mahomes, you know,

36:33

his, his situation got better. So

36:36

is Alan the smart choice to go first? And

36:39

I struggle with it. I really do because of

36:41

the guys that he has available to him. On

36:44

one hand, it reminds you of Mahomes two years ago,

36:47

right? Where he loses Tyree kill

36:49

and he becomes QB three or four in ADP. He

36:52

was behind Herbert and he ended up having an

36:54

amazing year. Um, but

36:58

with Alan just looking at the games with Joe

37:00

Brady, he was

37:02

only on pace for 4,143 passing yards. It's

37:06

really not a lot for him. 24

37:08

touchdown passes, 17, 19. He

37:12

was on base for 19 rushing. So, so you say there's

37:15

no way he can do that, but then you also have

37:17

to say, well, if he doesn't do that, some

37:19

of those are going to become passing touchdowns. And

37:22

in that stretch, he was Josh Allen

37:24

with Joe Brady last seven games of

37:26

the regular season was the number two

37:28

quarterback per game, only Lamar Jackson average

37:30

more, uh, Lamar, uh, Josh

37:32

Allen was just under 26.9 points per game

37:34

and six point for passing

37:36

touchdown leagues, which is really good. So, and

37:39

that was with Stefan Diggs really not

37:41

contributing that much. Right. Um,

37:44

all right. We got to take another break here.

37:46

We'll talk about the jets passing game. We'll talk

37:49

about guys like Zamir white

37:51

and Joel running

37:54

backs, Aaron Jones,

37:56

George pick George pickens, you know, he's

37:58

on everybody's breakout list right now. But

38:00

what you know how much capital

38:02

with the skewers invest in wide receiver in

38:04

the draft They're pretty good at plucking wide

38:06

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39:20

Jamie this was on your list of players who could be

39:22

impacted by the draft. What do you think? What do you

39:24

think of this situation who's got the most to gain or

39:26

lose? Roger segane and garett

39:28

wilson to lose. I mean, you know, they're in another

39:30

prime position to add a prominent wide receiver Or

39:33

bowers, you know, and if they go that

39:36

route then what does that mean for their

39:38

top? Pass catcher and their

39:40

aging quarterback coming off an achilles injury And

39:42

so this is another quarterback that has top

39:44

15 if not top 12 potential Offensive

39:47

line was significantly upgraded if he's healthy,

39:50

you know, he was being drafted last year his adp was at

39:52

the top 12 quarterback so You

39:54

give him garett wilson, which we know has

39:56

breakout potential and you give him another prime

40:01

pass catcher that could be potential

40:04

superstar that only enhances the

40:06

upside of what Rogers will be, who will be drafted

40:08

as number two quarterback, but I would take my chances

40:10

with him over Daniel Jones, no offense, if that's the

40:13

case. And

40:15

then the downgrade that we may have to give to

40:17

Garrett Wilson, you know, so I'm probably not

40:19

going to run away from Garrett Wilson. It's

40:22

hard to necessarily expect him to,

40:24

you know, fall significantly. But

40:27

if it is another receiver there, you know, we dealt

40:30

with this a little bit in the spring

40:33

of for the early part of the spring of

40:36

is Devontae Adams going to the Jets? You know,

40:39

is that wish going to be granted to Aaron

40:41

Rodgers and potentially Adams if that's what he wanted

40:43

as we're coming to find out? Apparently

40:45

he doesn't. So you

40:47

know, it could be a downgrade for where

40:49

Wilson's being drafted, not necessarily where he'll be

40:51

ranked, but probably not going to take

40:53

him as a borderline first round pick if there's somebody else there.

40:56

What do you do with Breece Hall

40:58

if they draft Bowers? Because Breece Hall

41:00

was so great for fantasy managers last year

41:02

because of the added receptions that he got.

41:05

And Bowers, I mean, this is just this is a stat

41:07

that I found while I was studying him. He

41:10

had 99 of his 175 career

41:12

catches at Georgia were on passes of

41:14

five or fewer areaards. He

41:16

had an eight dot under seven last

41:18

year for Georgia, a ton

41:20

of short targets, and he's effective on

41:23

those plays. And I can't help

41:25

but think that any team that gets Brock Bowers is going to use

41:27

them that way. Those short targets

41:29

are the tight ends. We talk about it

41:31

all the time. When that position gets an

41:33

uptick in targets, the running backs frequently take

41:35

a hit. And that makes me

41:37

a little nervous. I kind of don't want Brock

41:39

Bowers to go to the Jets. I want him

41:41

to go to Indy or Cincinnati.

41:44

Like those are the teams where yeah, he'll

41:46

take away from somebody, but at least it

41:48

won't necessarily impact the running backs in a

41:50

major way. I

41:53

don't necessarily disagree with what the reception

41:55

total could look like. I still think

41:57

he's a 40 to 50 catch guy no matter who is on the team. the

42:00

team just because I think that's in his profile. But

42:03

I also think in terms of Bree Saul, what will benefit

42:05

him is a more scoring opportunities

42:07

because of a better offense, mostly with a better quarterback, but

42:09

the offensive line upgrades are just going to help him as

42:12

a rusher across the board. That's true. I

42:14

don't, I don't really worry about Bree Saul, no

42:16

matter who they are. So even more efficient as

42:18

a runner, but fewer targets. Potentially. Yeah.

42:20

Like 70 catches, I don't think is realistic,

42:23

but I don't think it's realistic anyway, no matter who they

42:25

are. Just because again, I think he'll be more successful running

42:27

the ball and Rogers will make this offense better. So

42:30

it won't have to be a lot of panic and dump

42:32

off passes. Um, but

42:34

I also do think that what we see

42:36

from him as, as a rusher is potentially

42:38

astronomical. I don't know how

42:40

you guys feel about it, but we're obviously going to

42:42

be having these conversations a lot after

42:44

rounds one, two, and three specifically of

42:46

the NFL draft, but you

42:49

know, do you, I guess

42:51

I've always kind of felt like if you're a

42:53

great wide receiver, you're

42:55

not going to be affected by pretty

42:58

much anything except maybe a quarterback

43:00

change. You know, I remember

43:03

I, I feel like

43:06

I, there were people,

43:08

maybe me downgrading Antonio

43:10

Brown a little bit because we had these

43:12

big hopes for Martavis Bryant one year or

43:15

maybe you're just miss Schuster. Right.

43:18

Like, and it never really

43:20

affected Antonio Brown. You know,

43:23

I'm not that Garrett Wilson is that, but

43:26

for Garrett Wilson to be really affected

43:28

by a rookie wide

43:30

receiver, I think that rookie wide receiver would have to be pretty

43:32

good. You know, if it's one of the

43:34

big three, okay, then yeah. If it's a force

43:36

guy, I don't know if it's Bowers, I'm

43:38

thinking I'd, I'd compare that really to like a

43:41

Monra Saint Brown and Sam LaPorta obviously had no

43:43

effect on Saint Brown. I feel

43:45

like the more likely scenario is that if those

43:47

guys are good, the biggest impact would just be

43:49

boosting the quarterback rather than hurting the wide receiver.

43:52

Yeah, it's totally fair. And I guess

43:54

I'll just sort of clarify

43:58

what it said. I'm

44:00

not downgrading Garrett Wilson to

44:03

end of round one to round three.

44:06

It would be from pick, let's

44:08

say, 11 to 14,

44:11

where you're nitpicking with those guys. And

44:14

it's not one size fits all, right? There's no hard

44:16

and fast rule here. DK Metcalf is

44:18

a guy. I'm just looking now at his target

44:20

per route run rate. Last

44:22

three seasons, 26%, 24.4%, 21.9%.

44:27

It's a huge drop. And

44:29

they've never ever had a number three guy at

44:31

any position that's done anything significant. Like in the

44:33

last 10 years, I feel like in Seattle, I

44:35

could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

44:38

They really haven't had a number three target. They

44:41

did last year. So even though JSN didn't have a

44:43

big year, would you guys say it's fair to say

44:45

he negatively impacted DK Metcalf? Yeah,

44:50

I think that's part of it. I

44:52

think Geno Smith taking a step back

44:54

is part of it. I think defense

44:56

is adjusting to the offense without Dave

44:58

Canales there as part of it. So

45:01

there's a lot of things that we're at play. The

45:04

target share was way down. Metcalf missed

45:06

one game. You always have to consider

45:08

that, but just the targets in general

45:10

were lower for Metcalf. Okay,

45:14

let's go to some of the players Dave wanted to talk about

45:17

here. Who are the running backs that you think have

45:19

a lot to gain? I guess you were really taking it from

45:22

a lot to lose standpoint. Who are the running backs that have

45:24

a lot to lose? Let's start

45:26

with a lot of running backs who have been

45:28

in our lives as fantasy managers for a long

45:30

time and are potentially nearing the end of their

45:32

careers. They're all on teams where

45:35

the depth behind them isn't necessarily good. And

45:37

in the case of many of them, they're

45:39

in contract years. I'm talking about Aaron Jones,

45:42

who just signed in Minnesota, James Connor in

45:44

Arizona, Nick Chubb, Cleveland,

45:46

Joe Mixon now in Houston. I

45:49

think you can add Gus Edwards to that list too. These

45:51

are guys that are going to be impactful

45:54

for the next season, theoretically, on

45:56

their teams, but NFL

45:58

teams tend to get ahead. and

46:00

draft a year ahead especially after

46:02

round one and they won't

46:04

surprise me of each of those teams and obviously

46:06

the charges is obvious maybe the browns

46:08

is too. That they are

46:11

gonna go and add to

46:13

the running back room the other this draft

46:15

and it's not an awesome running back draft

46:17

class we've said that. But it's it's

46:20

almost like there's enough running backs where i there's

46:22

one or two things that are flaws

46:24

about them but they can still play

46:26

in the league. And so i expect a

46:29

lot of these running backs to get in the situations

46:31

this year where they're gonna act

46:33

as one be type of players and

46:35

have the chance to evolve into one a

46:37

type players by twenty twenty five. Okay

46:42

do you think with aaron

46:44

jones specifically i don't

46:46

think we expect him to be like a

46:48

eighteen carrie guy to begin with. So

46:51

does he have maybe a little bit less

46:53

to lose just because he's he's

46:56

already gonna be a tandem guy but

46:58

hopefully make his hey with some some

47:00

pass catching aaron jones. I

47:03

hope so that's something that they can do

47:05

i think the vikings should feel really good

47:07

about that they just signed him they know

47:09

what he's capable of doing. They've been playing

47:11

against them for how many years now when

47:13

seeing green bay yeah i don't unless

47:16

it's jonathan brooks which would be a

47:18

surprise given all the needs. The vikings

47:20

have i think

47:23

that aaron jones will still have you

47:25

know the driver's seat to begin the season but

47:28

if they go and they add jaylen right for

47:30

example who's kind of like a. You

47:33

know a lesser zone run type running back

47:35

compared to brooks but he's got speed that's

47:37

a guy who a good training camp gets the

47:40

offense he can be a factor early i mean

47:42

a coaching staff will find time for players like

47:45

that on sundays. All

47:47

right wide receivers let's

47:49

let's start with george pickens here

47:52

jamie and steers take a second

47:54

round wide receiver does this affect

47:57

your pickens breakout hype. No,

48:02

I mean, it's almost like your

48:04

argument with Garrett Wilson, like the second receiver

48:06

right now in Pittsburgh, if I'm not mistaken,

48:08

is Van Jefferson. Like

48:11

it's not exactly the most solidified spot.

48:13

So I can't imagine Russell

48:16

Wilson looking at his profile where these

48:18

type of guys, whether it's DK Metcalf,

48:20

you know, I'm not going to put Tyler Lock in

48:23

this category, but big physical wide receivers that have the

48:25

opportunity to make plays down the field. Metcalf,

48:29

Sutton, and now Pickens, I think this is going

48:31

to be his go-to guy. So they're

48:34

definitely adding to his receiving corps. It's the same thing in

48:36

Buffalo, we know is adding to his receiving corps. Arizona is

48:38

adding to his receiving corps. When they do it, we just

48:41

don't necessarily have the full scope of the

48:43

chargers are adding to the receiving corps. You know, like

48:46

they're not coming out of the draft without somebody or

48:48

two bodies, you know, and Pittsburgh is coming out of

48:50

this with a receiver, you know. So the things that

48:52

really are going to change Garrett Wilson and George

48:56

Pickens and help Josh

48:58

Allen dramatically is the surprise trade, the AJ

49:00

Brown draft night trade that we didn't see

49:02

coming. You know, those are the things are going

49:04

to really dramatically sway, I think,

49:06

what happens, you know. So, you

49:09

know, Harrison's going to hopefully go to

49:12

Cardinals or chargers, you know, neighbors, maybe one of

49:14

those two teams as well, you know, there's going

49:16

to be a potential surprise trade up into the

49:18

top 10, or maybe Chicago surprises us at nine

49:20

and takes one of those guys, you

49:22

know, those are the things I think that you look at

49:24

really when it comes to adding to the Jets,

49:27

adding to the Colts, adding to the Steelers,

49:31

like those are expected moves. So

49:34

I don't think it's necessarily a huge downgrade,

49:36

again, unless they trade up and do something crazy, which

49:38

I don't think Pittsburgh is going to do. So

49:42

you say day two pick? No, I'm

49:44

not worried about it. Let me make it day one then. But

49:47

let's say it's not one of the top three guys

49:49

for Pittsburgh. Let's say it's anyone

49:51

else, Brian Thomas on down for Pittsburgh

49:54

in day one. Yeah,

49:56

I'm not worried, you know, I mean, if it's

49:59

Mitchell, if it's W. The you know if it's any

50:01

those guys that are expected to be you know back and

50:03

of the first round type of guys. Know.

50:05

I'm not worried about because. You. Mention

50:07

the brand and I you took off his

50:10

took the Forty Niners off of this accounts.

50:12

What does he was? The Steelers give up

50:14

their first and the Niners our we have

50:16

resigned. As good as that is that when

50:18

my point you any to any draft day

50:21

trades have established players than yes Mike Tomlin

50:23

in the doppelganger of their on the Same

50:25

theme. then we have issues for George Pickens

50:27

but if it's rookie. Even.

50:30

Even second tier round one

50:32

rookie. I'm. Not worried about pick. It's at

50:35

least not for this year. Maybe long term yes, but not for

50:37

this, You know, I would bet the

50:39

Steelers are looking for one of the precise

50:41

road runners in the stressed. And

50:43

someone that can be a good sort.

50:45

an intermediate weapon for us to lean

50:47

on. So. Mcconkey Pierce

50:49

all Roman Wilson. Ah,

50:52

Those with going to be the top three

50:54

guys, but there's others that to go into

50:56

Pittsburgh, and there's a pretty good track record

50:59

of the Steelers drafting receivers outside of round

51:01

one. Who. Turn out to be really

51:03

helpful for fantasy. Is. As we

51:05

can get every scenario today. Dave

51:07

so I want to talk about

51:09

the fiery devices and. Huge

51:12

quarterback. and yes, from hims yeah, basically.

51:15

Caleb Williams. Okay,

51:17

so they're not going to a Caleb Williams.

51:20

I think the coaching staff loves Drake May.

51:22

There's an obvious connection between Josh Mccown and

51:24

Drake. May Mccown coached May in North Carolina

51:26

when he was in high school. And

51:29

they've obviously stayed in touch. I think

51:31

it's I think almost any quarterback that

51:34

they could take. If. They trade

51:36

up into the top four. Would. Be fine,

51:38

I don't. I don't think the value would

51:40

go down for Jefferson. Addison. Hopkinson.

51:43

Even. If it's Jj Mccarthy, How Mccarthy's

51:45

back Quarterback? As. If it's May,

51:47

there are some flaws with May. I still think

51:49

you'd be able. To rip it enough

51:51

times from week to week to get

51:54

numbers for those pass catchers if it's.

51:56

Panics. Or bone x.

51:59

I'd be a little. bit more nervous. I'd worry about

52:01

the upside for those guys. You

52:04

said that Vikings like Drake May. I just want to take

52:06

a second here. I don't –

52:09

I think Dan Schneier is

52:11

related to Drake May. I mean, every time

52:13

I'm on Twitter, he is retweeting some clip of

52:15

Drake May. I'm going to go through Dan's last

52:17

10 tweets and let's see if there are three

52:19

or more that are about Drake

52:21

May. Here's one about – Drake

52:23

Schneier. Drake He's

52:31

promoting a Drake May

52:33

profile on his Giants

52:35

podcast. That's one. He's

52:37

crapping on Dave Gettleman. That's the other thing he likes to do

52:39

a lot. I think

52:41

I'm only seeing There's two.

52:43

Every current elite NFL quarterback has

52:46

elite arm talent with

52:48

very few draft prospects on him. Drake May

52:50

is one of them. He loves Drake May.

52:53

I think I'm only seeing two here. Have

52:57

you done a profile of Drake May with him yet, Dave? Did you do

52:59

that on 55? Yes. A

53:02

fusive phrase from Schneier. I

53:04

don't really – Yeah, and I get it.

53:06

He's got a strong arm. He

53:08

can make anticipatory throws. He's

53:11

probably the best anticipatory thrower

53:14

in the draft class. That means he can

53:16

throw to a spot before the receiver gets

53:18

there. It's exactly what Kevin O'Connell would want

53:20

from his quarterback. Cousins did it a ton.

53:23

It's just a matter of – he was late

53:25

a lot of times on throws. I think it

53:27

has to do with footwork issues, mechanical issues. He

53:29

was sped up when he was pressured. These are

53:31

things that a lot of quarterbacks can get better

53:33

at. He's a good

53:35

athlete. He's got a big strong arm.

53:38

Been playing quarterback his whole life. He

53:40

knows what he's doing when he's out

53:42

there. He's rather fearless and I think that

53:44

he can throw with accuracy as well. I

53:46

get where Dan's coming from. I'm

53:48

just letting you all know, he wants the Giants

53:51

to take Drake May. If the Giants don't take

53:53

Malik neighbors or Marvin Harrison, if they don't take

53:55

Harrison or neighbors, I'm done with the Giants. I

53:57

Will have a new team next fall. After

54:00

back, you're done with the Giants. If.

54:03

It's Not Kayla Williams Are Jaded Daniels?

54:05

Yes. Ah,

54:07

By a buyer is Williams Daniels

54:09

Harrison Neighbors. Those are the only

54:11

four players I will accept to

54:13

be on the Giants. Now.

54:16

What if they're all off the board? that when they don't is

54:18

not really their fault. Then. I'm

54:20

all be a giant said but you're going to says you're

54:22

going to be a dried spare no matter what. So what's

54:24

your what's your top six there's for with letter. For.

54:27

Is designed specifically or just in general.

54:30

Because. I don't really want this of yeah I

54:32

don't know that I want them to take jokes

54:34

that you know because then he'd have to play

54:37

right tackle. I guess I would

54:39

say I didn't say. And.

54:41

Bowers. So

54:44

for pass catchers into quarter. Yeah,

54:46

so Drake made their. Their.

54:49

They know I. Treat me.

54:52

With. Z caviar that I know for

54:54

a fact that I don't know what

54:56

I'm talking about. Eyes. So

54:58

I'm just a fan. Like all of you straight

55:00

may reminds me a little bit of team is

55:02

William A. James Winston. Where.

55:05

I feel like he made a lot of mistakes

55:07

in college. A lot of interceptions. I don't see

55:09

that with May, but you see mistakes and everybody

55:12

kind of excuse them putting me. Too

55:14

many negative, too many negatives. I think with

55:17

Drake make it scares me a little bit.

55:19

All things they have talked about the use

55:21

was his games. Yes he makes amazing throws.

55:23

also has his head scratching moments. sure and

55:26

coaches think that they can fix. That said,

55:28

I remember that was one of those at

55:30

about Winston arc a good coach or fix

55:32

that. Well. Sometimes they don't

55:34

get a good coaches if they borders.

55:38

Of. And just this upcoming season. I'd

55:40

be kind of optimistic about may with him. Them.

55:42

the end table being able the to coach from apple

55:45

a bit because he did it which are salads. The.

55:47

Problem is that I think of the Giants have

55:49

another terrible season. There's going to be

55:51

a big coaching change. Their. element

55:54

order your body now i'll a andrew in the

55:56

chest as l a adams as to his

55:58

line and then jordan says Azer still owes

56:00

us three lines that

56:03

I did not shape it to my head the draft-a-thon

56:06

night. All right, some

56:09

emails here. This is from Josh.

56:11

Our email address is fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. That

56:13

is the letter

56:16

I, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Dear

56:18

Sergey, Matthew, Alexander, and

56:21

Carter. Oh,

56:24

those are Florida Panthers. What

56:27

a big weekend we have coming up

56:29

here. Knicks, Panthers, let's go. Knicks,

56:33

Panthers. Josh may have

56:35

discovered a new handcuff strategy

56:37

for people in multiple leagues

56:39

that I have called reverse

56:41

handcuffing. Typically, handcuffs are used

56:43

to minimize risk. In the event that your

56:45

starter is injured, you have a suitable replacement.

56:48

In contrast, reverse handcuffs give you

56:50

more risk but increase your upside.

56:52

In reverse handcuffing, you pick the

56:54

backup of a player who you

56:57

roster in a different league. And

57:01

I'll just say this says a lot more, but you're

57:03

handcuffing a team in a different fantasy

57:06

league. So that's interesting.

57:09

So I drafted Christian McCaffrey in one

57:12

league, and in another league I draft

57:14

Elijah Mitchell. And if

57:16

McCaffrey goes down, I'm toast in that league, but

57:18

I've got Elijah Mitchell in the other league. Yeah,

57:21

last year he did that. I

57:24

might go seven and seven in both leagues.

57:26

No, last year he had a team with

57:28

Nick Chubb and Elijah Mitchell, and he had

57:30

another team with Christian McCaffrey and Jerome

57:32

Ford. So the

57:34

Chubb-Mitchell team stunk, but he

57:36

had McCaffrey and Jerome Ford in the other one. Now,

57:39

I wonder, did he draft Jerome Ford, or did

57:41

he just happen to pick up Jerome Ford? That's

57:45

a good question. I don't

57:48

know the answer to that. See,

57:50

I mean, look, it's obviously when you play in multiple

57:52

leagues, you know, we all do. I would

57:55

say the majority of our audience probably does, but… It's

58:00

just minimizing your misery.

58:02

You know, it's like, you

58:04

know, in the league where you drafted McCaffrey first, you

58:06

have probably the expectation that you're going to have a

58:08

very good fantasy team because you have the best player

58:11

in fantasy. And then if he

58:13

goes down, okay, your season

58:15

may be stunk, sunk, as Dave

58:17

said, you have two seven and seven teams,

58:19

but the other league, okay, now you have a chance to be

58:21

awesome. It's

58:24

just, it's, I think we're speaking to a small

58:26

audience here of people that may import that. Next

58:29

email is from Bad Books. So he

58:31

sees these NFL teams signing punt returners, kick

58:33

returners, really, kick returners because of the new

58:35

rules. What are

58:38

ideal league scoring changes, in your opinions,

58:40

to make this fun

58:42

and somewhat fair versus just leaving it

58:44

as DST points, which I feel could

58:46

swing weeks too far on one

58:49

side of DST randomness? You

58:52

could do return yardage for players. And

58:55

then that changes how you may draft certain players that are going

58:57

to be more involved in the return game. So...

59:00

Do you have a suggestion on what that would look like? I

59:03

mean, you're giving a point for every 10

59:05

yards, every 10 kick return yards and touchdowns

59:07

for kick returns only to those specific players,

59:09

you know, so let's just say the Dolphins

59:11

decide to make Devon H. and a kick

59:14

returner. And then that just makes

59:16

them that much more valuable. Again,

59:19

I wish Heath was on the show,

59:21

I believe the first year of the Yolo Dynasty League,

59:24

he had similar scoring for special

59:26

teams returns. So punt returns also factor

59:28

in. And I know

59:30

I drafted Tyree Kill probably around earlier than

59:33

he was going to go because of that, which

59:35

worked out great. This was his rookie season. So

59:38

you know, you start to do your research on who's going to be the

59:40

kick and punt return guys. And if we're getting

59:43

yardage for that, that may enhance the value of some of the

59:45

veterans that are going to be involved in those particular moves. I'd

59:48

be a little more

59:51

conservative on the yardage that you'd give to

59:53

kick and punt returners, especially now with the

59:55

new rules, the kick returners are going to

59:57

get Anywhere from 10. Twenty

1:00:00

yards. Every single time they they get

1:00:02

one of those kicks. And. If

1:00:04

they break one of the house it's six

1:00:06

points for the touchdown and it's gonna be

1:00:08

like seven. Eight points on your scoring. For.

1:00:11

The yardage on top of it, which is just

1:00:13

like how it is for a long touchdown Catch

1:00:15

her a long touchdown run. It

1:00:17

is that something that I think could. Could.

1:00:20

Change how. Your. Weeks

1:00:22

go to. It's it's all that and I assume

1:00:24

that let's let's take it away on let's take

1:00:26

it away from the the big name guys. Let's

1:00:29

say it's Quarter or Patterson, for example, who's probably

1:00:31

only going to be a returner for the majority

1:00:33

of his production seasons. A So with Arthur Smith

1:00:35

as well. I mean, at let's let's outwards taken

1:00:37

five carries every weekend, I'm going a croquet. So

1:00:40

let's let's let's say it's five carries or five

1:00:42

touches every weekend. So he's getting let's say, three

1:00:44

points on his office touches. but he's getting seven

1:00:46

or eight points per game on his special teams.

1:00:48

such as that makes of what. Can.

1:00:51

I give you guys. To. Players of

1:00:53

them looking at his. Return. Yardage leaders

1:00:55

Last year there were two players who had:

1:00:57

if you're giving us kick return yardage it

1:00:59

throw it out. Because. It's gonna be

1:01:01

a completely different play this year, Yeah, but I

1:01:03

feel like if there is, he can only increase

1:01:06

for these guys. By. To see

1:01:08

shown Nixon and Xavier Gibson of

1:01:10

the Packers and Jets respectively. They

1:01:12

both had more than eight hundred.

1:01:16

A between eight nine hundred combined.

1:01:19

Keith uptick in punt return yards. I

1:01:22

was last year. I.

1:01:25

You. Know they they scored only one touchdown.

1:01:27

But. You. Know get interrupted almost

1:01:29

nine hundred yards. it's not Nelson there and

1:01:32

then if you think it's only gonna go

1:01:34

up because it gonna be more returns this

1:01:36

year. You. Could it be talking about these

1:01:38

guys over a thousand yards? By. The

1:01:41

Us to southeast of them be pretty hard to come by

1:01:43

so. I would say if you're

1:01:45

in a league that has scoring like Jamie

1:01:47

suggests, it's not wrong to do scoring like

1:01:49

that. Ah, be sure you're ready to draft accordingly

1:01:51

someone else and that we will be in. You

1:01:54

don't want to be caught off guard by.

1:01:56

You know about player that you would

1:01:59

normally never consider. Drafting. I'm

1:02:01

suddenly being worth a thousand yards and maybe

1:02:03

two or three touchdowns over the course of

1:02:05

the year. I. Also, the more I

1:02:07

think about that play. And. The more,

1:02:09

think about the deterrent if if a team

1:02:11

kicks the ball through the end zone, the

1:02:13

opposing team gets it at their thirties. Five

1:02:15

more yards, the more was last year. I.

1:02:18

Bet their slogan be a lot of touch backs. I

1:02:22

wouldn't scoff at five yards. It's a pretty

1:02:24

big deal and meant to be the twenty

1:02:26

yard line As certain as and a position

1:02:29

as a thirty Orlando's is revealed the twenty

1:02:31

homeless. But the original proposal was thirty five

1:02:33

yard line and that would have made it

1:02:35

up Huge deterrent. Yeah, because now you're giving

1:02:37

a team. You're taking your giving a team

1:02:40

a third of the field. I. Feel

1:02:42

like thirty yards as like the happy medium.

1:02:45

And. I I I would still imagine that there will be

1:02:47

a lot of plays were balls or kids through the end

1:02:49

zone. I. This is from Nathan. Where's

1:02:51

he from? Nathan is

1:02:53

from Fresno, California. Recently.

1:02:55

Did a dynasty start up and took

1:02:58

four quarterbacks with my first four picks

1:03:00

because I liked the values Josh Allen

1:03:02

just than Herbert, Jordan, Love and Forever

1:03:04

Lawrence. A bath, Eyes

1:03:06

and traded herbert. To

1:03:10

o two in the rookie draft. Second,

1:03:12

Round pick but second pic of

1:03:14

second round and a twenty twenty

1:03:16

five third rounder. For. Just

1:03:19

Jefferson. So.

1:03:22

Justin Herbert pick two o two and the

1:03:24

rookie draft and a third round pick. And

1:03:26

twenty twenty five for just the Jefferson and

1:03:28

he so as Allen Love and Lawrence. City.

1:03:31

Say if it was super flexor

1:03:34

two Qbs superflous. Scared

1:03:37

of. Yeah.

1:03:41

And. So he didn't say it's super flex I guess

1:03:43

I'm just assuming that. Ever

1:03:45

not reflect stuff? Yeah. The

1:03:47

were strategy of ever heard of his us it

1:03:50

reflects but I don't see why we wouldn't be

1:03:52

taking foot if it's not super flax. would

1:03:54

look at what he gave up for justin

1:03:56

jefferson it's all of the jefferson manager rights

1:03:59

terrible know but seeking for quarterback for the

1:04:01

first four pick at also very terrible i'm

1:04:03

assuming i would i would also

1:04:06

all right thank you to our email or for a

1:04:08

lot of viewers are listeners uh... back

1:04:11

tomorrow with the game show and i have been

1:04:14

part of the football uh... without

1:04:17

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