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They would have thought that there's an issue
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with the wiring. Yeah. Oh, my car speaker
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does that sometimes. That
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was the intro to the show. Sorry.
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Sorry. We'll move on. Well,
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we just did an early wide receiver
2:27
rankings episode. We counted it down from 20 to
2:29
11. So today we
2:31
will do the early top 10 wide receiver
2:33
rankings. And
2:36
we'll talk about a
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very interesting quick question. It
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should be a good show. It should be fun. There's
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a couple of players in particular on the top
2:46
10 countdown that
2:48
I think will be hotly contested today
2:51
and throughout the off season. And
2:54
you're going to have to plant your flag on
2:56
what you believe about these players because
2:59
the cost to acquire them will
3:03
be priced. It will be expensive. It
3:05
will be something where if you're wrong,
3:07
it is a significant impact to the
3:10
foundation of your team, in my opinion. Yeah,
3:12
for sure. You get the top picks
3:14
wrong and you're going to have to scrap and
3:17
claw your way back. I don't think a lot of the
3:19
early Cooper Cup drafters last year had a great time. Like
3:22
when you miss it. No, we did not. Oh,
3:24
man. Yeah. Same
3:26
with Garrett Wilson last year. When
3:29
Aaron Rodgers played, what, like
3:31
four seconds of a game. It
3:34
didn't work. You
3:37
saw all of your plans crumbling. If
3:39
we have extra time, we'll jump into the mailbag
3:41
as well. A couple reminders at the top of
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the episode. There
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is a new Dynasty podcast
3:48
episode out. It was yesterday's
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show and it is a mock
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draft mayhem episode. Jason Moore, Matthew
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Betts, Kyle Borgannoni. How much Mayhem
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actually happened? I'm quite a
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bit of made him and and you know what was
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really fun. It was a great so I highly recommend
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if you if you haven't given it a listen yet.
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If you want to learn about of these these upcoming
4:09
rookies it is a very very good So. I.
4:12
Honestly thought. The. Cows idea
4:14
of how we were going to do the mayhem right
4:16
and is just like being honest I thought was so
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stupid yeah I thought I was like this is the
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time is it again this is gonna some of this
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is not can go well. And. Then
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it not only did it go well. What
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a great idea like it was
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actually says still has actually Super
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Bowl from like a fantasy perspective and
4:33
how you would shift based on what
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happens of the draft so it's is
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great episode Check it out of young
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rookie. Mock. Draft
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Mayhem of from from A Dynasty
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Prospective. Ah, we also
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want to remind you about the ultimate draft,
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yet, don't We might. Certainly.
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Do That is Not a secrets.
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Were. Filled out Journal: the ultimate F No no
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it's not as a test, that other bag or from.
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L to the drafted.com Low as possible
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price right now. And. The Dynasty
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Pass will be getting it's. Third,
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The The The Big Bada Boom update
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will be out shortly after the Nfl
5:11
draft. Or I saw a
5:13
quick question of the day from you tube Thomas
5:16
Rights and says. Well.
5:18
I guess it's a question. He.
5:21
Wants sense like a dummy. A kind of
5:23
a demand rights the Packers wide receivers for
5:25
Dynasty a rank on. What's.
5:27
The gas money to another gonna request no
5:29
less than a demand. But. He
5:32
he already had demonstrably and I'd feel like
5:34
I should have a a rake the Packers
5:36
Jason. Reckon I
5:38
think the real question. Primarily.
5:41
Is. At the top. Who's. The one who's the
5:43
to. Because. I would. I
5:45
would imagine that all three of us. Have.
5:48
Christian Watson and. Of.
5:51
The agreement yeah degree was that was a face.
5:54
You're doing my face Hussein that there is. Still,
5:56
I still think the windows cracked open for their
5:58
to be another number one like I. I do
6:00
think that there's the possibility that- Like
6:02
Dobbs? Like Dobbs comes still. I mean, that's
6:05
what makes them so hard. That's why he is demanding
6:07
this, is because you have talent
6:10
throughout the roster with Jaden Reed Watson.
6:12
We've seen the big plays and the
6:14
touchdowns with Romeo Dobbs, reliable. And
6:16
then even Dontavian Wicks, who
6:20
I think from a skill set standpoint really stood
6:22
out last year. Yes, he did. And
6:24
so, you know,
6:26
it's hard because Jaden Reed is a little
6:29
less prototypical. He
6:32
is great with the ball in his hand. They
6:34
give him end-of-rounds. They give him short area targets.
6:37
He seems to be a go-to receiver at times.
6:39
And then other times, he can
6:42
fade away from a game plan because of just
6:44
the nature of his physicality and the type of
6:46
player that he is. And it
6:49
makes it more complicated. I mean, he's 5'11, 187. He's
6:53
an explosive player, but he
6:55
can disappear, but yet ended the year with
6:58
four straight top performances. Yeah, Jaden Reed's a
7:00
good football player, a good wide receiver. The
7:02
question for fantasy purposes is can he be
7:04
the one for this team? He
7:06
clearly was at the end of the season when they
7:09
needed him and he came through big time. Those four
7:11
games, Andy, he was on pace
7:13
over those four games if you extrapolate that over
7:15
17, just to give you an idea of how good he
7:17
was. It would have been over 100 receptions, just
7:21
under 1200 yards and 13 touchdowns. He
7:25
was a monster at the end
7:27
of the season. How well he scored. He was
7:29
always dealing with a chest and a toe injury.
7:31
Say he scored a touchdown on 13% of his
7:33
touches. And
7:36
that's great, but the nice thing about those numbers
7:38
is the yards and the receptions were there too.
7:40
So it wasn't just like, well, all this production
7:42
came from touchdown. No, I'm not saying it all
7:44
comes from touchdowns, but I'm saying every
7:47
7 1,5 touches for Jaden Reed, he
7:49
scored a touchdown. That's not... It's
7:52
certainly not. I would bet against it. Yeah, especially
7:54
for 187 pound player, But
7:57
that pace was 13 touchdowns. Yeah, and...
8:00
And none on that. Oh
8:02
those games where the game zippy in
8:04
those year the Christian Watson was not
8:06
in. So. When Chris of want to play
8:08
it over seventy percent of the snaps through the middle
8:10
of the season weeks five to thirteen. How
8:13
to didn't read do in those games when he
8:15
wasn't necessarily the focal point of off it's a
8:17
gameplan. Well. He would have something
8:19
a piece of. Fifty nine
8:21
receptions, For. Six hundred and
8:24
fifty eight yards. And. Six Touchdowns.
8:26
So I do believe that when the
8:28
entire wide receiver corps is healthy and
8:30
together. Christen. Wants and is still.
8:33
A primary focus he's still be. Better.
8:35
Athlete Now this is. I mean it's
8:37
debatable. This is just my we will
8:40
debate. This is my view and in
8:42
it's really just an educated opinion because
8:44
there's no way to know. You know
8:46
it's hard. It's it's hard to extrapolate.
8:49
A rookie season when a player is emerging. It's.
8:52
Hard to trust. cursing wants and
8:54
is perennially injured. So
8:57
both of those things complicate matters. I think
8:59
Dobbs probably doesn't have the ceiling. Which.
9:02
Would put him at three for me. But.
9:05
I lean it is to answer the question
9:07
or so the demand. I
9:09
would go read Watson Dobbs Wix.
9:12
That's read Watson Dobbs Wix. That's how I
9:14
have it as well. attorneys in the Hof
9:16
but the that. The. Fact that you're.
9:19
Debating. This and we're all kind of st.
9:21
Wow, I have it this way. This.
9:23
Is why. Like I
9:25
have Romeo Dobbs. As.
9:28
It in interesting trade for target
9:30
in dynasty because. See. Cheapest
9:32
he has. yeah he's like in the
9:34
don't even Wix is probably in category
9:36
to says if you want a cheap
9:38
entry point into the Green Bay Packers
9:40
wide receiver crew which you should. Because.
9:44
It. Looks like Join Love is the real deal.
9:46
Looks like the really Packers got it. They. They.
9:48
They nailed it again. And you're going
9:51
to have a stable quarterback. And.
9:54
A A A good high powered often see are.
9:56
You. Want pieces of it? Jane read.
9:59
Three. trade for Jane Reed right now in
10:01
dynasty is going to be extremely difficult and there
10:04
is still a chance that he just that
10:07
was kind of the most efficient and the best that you'll
10:09
ever see Jane Reed he'll be a good player but
10:12
maybe he never really comes through for for
10:14
dynasty so if I'm if
10:16
I'm going after a Green Bay Packer
10:19
it's probably Dobbs or Dontavian Wicks just
10:21
because they're cheaper and
10:23
I I really don't know who
10:27
is going to emerge I think that Christian Watson
10:29
is from it is the most
10:31
talented the highest ceiling should he be
10:33
able to become a more refined wide
10:35
receiver and if he can
10:37
ever have a healthy hamstring yeah I mean that's
10:39
the issue I I think even as an unrefined
10:42
receiver he can get it done if he can
10:44
just get on the field and stay there he
10:46
dealt with his hamstring issues and
10:48
and to be to be fair that is
10:50
an issue I know we don't try
10:52
to qualify guys as injury prone but
10:55
this is a human being a problem
10:57
that from basically Pee-Wee you
10:59
know football all the way he's been dealt with
11:01
injuries his entire career that being said
11:03
is he at the top of your head the
11:05
top of my list it goes Christian Watson Jaden
11:07
Reed for ceiling Dobbs Wicks because
11:09
of ceiling and I'm not gonna just predict injury
11:11
any of these guys could get injured next year
11:14
if they're all on the field I believe Christian
11:16
Watson is the best one to me he's the
11:18
trade-for target because Watson Christian
11:20
Watson I think people are done with them there
11:23
are plenty of people out there at least that are
11:25
done with them and it might just
11:27
be the people who have had him that
11:29
are the most sick of him like yeah
11:32
I'll take I'll take anything for this he
11:34
has been extremely touchdown-dependent in the games that
11:36
he was valuable for your fantasy team that
11:38
has been and also true and it can
11:40
be good and it can be bad and
11:42
and obviously he's very capable of getting into
11:44
the end zone and making big plays so
11:46
it'll be fascinating to watch I think we
11:48
all believe that Green Bay is gonna have
11:50
a lot of fantasy value stability
11:52
at the coach quarterback position it'll
11:55
be it'll be interesting and then just the
11:58
real quick bow here for me on Don
12:00
Tavy and Wicks, if you've been following the show
12:02
over the offseason, we're talking about rookies with their
12:05
targets per route run and yards per route run. He's
12:07
at a very healthy point of,
12:10
you know, he had a from weeks 12 through
12:13
18, over 22% of his
12:15
routes he was targeted. He had 2.21
12:17
yards per route run. That's a
12:19
good strong number for the sample size.
12:21
So he is a
12:25
fascinating second year player. And Jordan Love,
12:27
you know, maybe they
12:30
just trade for Jordan Love. Right,
12:32
yeah. Jordan Love was great. Do you do you realize where
12:34
he ranked in passing touchdowns last year? What
12:37
are your guesses? Total
12:39
touchdowns? Total passing touchdowns. What
12:42
was his rank? I would go quarterback what? I'm gonna
12:44
go. Wow. See, I don't know what
12:46
the setup is. I think the setup might be he
12:48
was good, but didn't have that many. I'm gonna guess
12:50
eight. Eight? I was seven, eight
12:52
was my gut reaction. Number
12:55
two. Number two. Yeah. Dak Press
12:57
got through more and that was
12:59
it. He threw more than Josh
13:01
Allen and Patrick Mahomes. So impressive.
13:03
Stupid backers. You're not allowed to
13:05
keep getting away with it. And
13:08
Duster's Alley's got a smirky Al
13:10
Borland over there. Remembering.
13:13
Yeah. Oh, gosh. He's cheering. Okay.
13:16
Just real quick temperature check
13:18
because hearing that and
13:20
these wide receivers and everything, it's so
13:22
wild. Jordan Love
13:25
at his price or CJ Stroud at
13:28
his price, Dynasty. It's gotta be Love.
13:30
Yeah, CJ Stroud's price is it's
13:32
not what it would not. It's your left arm.
13:35
I want both guys. I want both guys. I
13:39
want to keep my arms. I barely want
13:42
no arms. You want both arms.
13:44
I'm willing to give up both of mine to get
13:46
both those players. I think the future.
13:48
That's the future of the NFL, those two players.
13:50
Well, it could be Love. That
13:52
could be wild because if you drafted Jordan Love
13:55
and you sat and waited patiently
13:57
like the Green Bay Packers, you may not
13:59
be able to. able to get him. Yeah,
14:01
call me a hopeless romantic, but I
14:04
believe in love. Boston! Get
14:06
out of here. You're
14:10
proud of that one? Oh, yeah. I
14:13
drink in your groans. I love them. We
14:18
don't have any big NFL news to share.
14:20
The NFL Draft is a couple weeks away.
14:22
We announced yesterday the NFL Draft
14:25
Special, Fantasy Footballers Draft Special we're doing on
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NFL Plus, so we'd love to have you
14:29
join us on April 25th at
14:31
the end of round one on draft night,
14:34
Fantasy Football reactions in the moment,
14:37
breaking down the skill position players and their
14:39
impact on so much. I
14:41
mean, it changes depth charts,
14:44
not just for the outlook of
14:46
the individual players drafted, but for
14:49
everybody else on those rosters when you spend high
14:51
draft capital. Put it in your calendar. But
14:55
the draft should be in your calendar, first of all.
14:57
You have to let people know that you are not
14:59
available the night of Thursday, April
15:01
25th, and you're not available after
15:04
the draft. Yeah, you're just not available. All
15:07
right. I think we don't have
15:10
anything else we're doing. Let's jump back
15:12
into the wide outs. Wide
15:17
receivers. All
15:20
right. Top
15:22
10, the countdown
15:24
continues. A little stat
15:26
for you for top 10 wide receivers over
15:29
the last decade. An
15:31
average of 3.7 players
15:33
repeated as top 10 wide
15:35
receivers from the previous year. Those are great. Now, when
15:37
I read it, I was like, ah, they're going to
15:39
say an average of 3.7 dropped out. No,
15:43
an average of 3.7 repeated as
15:45
top 10 wide receivers. The
15:48
most in the last 10
15:50
years to have repeated at all. When
15:53
things go well, it's five of the 10. So
15:56
injuries always play a part. You're not
15:58
going to, you know, Generally make
16:00
it through a full season like the way the
16:02
top ten finished. You know, Those.
16:05
Ten guys don't generally make it through seventeen
16:07
games healthy. Last
16:09
year's repeat name's. It.
16:12
Was Tyreke it was Cd Lamb
16:14
Zama Nra. They. Do a brown.
16:17
And. It was defined digs, barely. Barely.
16:20
Squeak to be replaced with first. I
16:22
do think it's kind of interesting when
16:24
you see those five names that did
16:26
repeat. I three of
16:28
them are really confident about. Marrying.
16:31
There's a fourth that maybe and maybe some
16:33
people are really confident about. Digs is the
16:35
one that's gonna drop out in people's minds,
16:37
but time in truth in in Re our
16:39
I'm probably yeah, but I'm I'm leaving the
16:42
door open for see destroyed to. Get.
16:44
On. Top. And. I
16:47
I'm leaving the door. Oh, I know it's not
16:49
impossible. Get it wouldn't shock me. I'm not going
16:51
to projected. I'm not going to draft him like
16:53
he. Is finishing top ten but. May.
16:56
Maybe it was a fluke. Maybe. The second
16:59
half was a fluke and was just the scheme.
17:01
so odd. but hell lamb an albatross a brown
17:03
will talk about the day for sir and the
17:05
know. I don't know what the opinions on a
17:07
day brown derby discussed at Ten. The.
17:10
Countdown continues with. Depot.
17:12
Sameness.
17:17
Depot. Is a man?
17:19
Is he Is. On.
17:22
Track or both. That's that's the
17:24
truth. Me: Neither is a good.
17:27
Football. Player right, good, wide receiver.
17:29
Is. A fine route runner is what we
17:31
eat. Whatever. throw all of that way
17:33
he's made. He's just out here. a.
17:40
Russian these what is your break down
17:43
that yards after catch? yes you know
17:45
we have. We were taught about this
17:47
would love mother player knows. just mind
17:49
blowing to see the yards after catch
17:51
per reception. Leaders: Over. The last
17:53
five years, so many of forty target to your.
17:56
Over. The yards after ten yards after catch.
17:59
Know. this is This is off of
18:01
the whole NFL the entire
18:03
thing all the wide receivers in the
18:05
NFL each of the last five years
18:08
So hundreds of wide receivers over five
18:10
years Five
18:13
of the top yearly finishes five
18:15
of the top eight are all
18:18
Deebo Sam the last five years
18:21
It goes Deebo Samuel was number one in 2020. He was
18:23
number three in 2021. He was number four in 2022 He
18:28
was number six in 2023 and number eight in 2019 not
18:30
like he ranked eight The
18:34
eighth best of the last five years was
18:36
him and he beat himself four times Is
18:40
he's just you cannot bring that man
18:42
to the ground easily you try and
18:46
Once he's got the ball in the hand in his
18:48
hands. He's gone now.
18:50
Can he stay healthy? The the wild
18:52
thing is is this year at least
18:55
in our initial unstatted? reactions
18:59
You're the highest on Deebo Samuel. I
19:01
don't know if that is you thinking about I you
19:03
ex departure It doesn't okay. Yeah, cuz we have talked
19:05
about that in studio. I obviously have always been a
19:08
big Deebo fan His problems been staying on the field
19:11
It was like an eye testing immediately like
19:13
the second he played an NFL game There
19:16
was something that said I'm better than you
19:19
about Deebo It was just a matter of putting it together over the
19:21
course of a season Health wise and
19:23
and so we've seen him finish at number
19:25
two at the position before Really
19:30
special player he had a run last year a four-week
19:33
stretch where he finished ninth second first
19:35
and ninth So four straight
19:37
tops and finishes five touchdowns That
19:40
was only after he you know, he broke his shoulder,
19:43
right? Yeah, and he finished at number two
19:45
overall in 2021 then dip down to
19:48
37 missed four games And
19:52
so and he was if you remember last offseason, he
19:54
was Talking about it. He
19:57
said that was the team had success and he
19:59
said Worse season of my
20:01
career. I. Was like. I.
20:04
Just played terrible. He said he just.
20:06
Played. Bad football. And. Then he came back
20:08
last year unfinished at twelve at the position, and he missed two
20:10
games. So. Many potential there
20:12
you also you you can't take away
20:14
the rushing opportunities for most wide receivers
20:16
for enough for most for all wide
20:19
receivers outside of Depot Samuel. Rushing.
20:21
Opportunities are just like a little salt
20:23
on est. You know it's nice you
20:25
to me like oh I'd prefer it
20:27
with that little extra desktop. For.
20:30
Him this mask tables on the side of
20:32
states oh I was gonna go burn a
20:34
sub the oh that's that's better because of
20:36
still tapia ah but I mean. His.
20:39
Were the way he's utilized in the
20:41
Russia game. Budget is so valuable for
20:43
famous is sort of thing. Adjacent might
20:45
ask him as bills as his sauce
20:47
for a steak at a restaurant while
20:49
using like of her name. you want
20:51
the I'll take them as ten or
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21:35
but but with the point I was
21:38
making so he has averaged in his
21:40
career one point three to fantasy points.
21:42
Per. Rushing attempts. And. For context,
21:46
Christian. Mccaffrey. Averages.
21:49
Zero Point Six eight. So.
21:51
Says over double. Every time
21:54
he touches the ball. More valuable
21:56
for fantasy because. Seen. him utilizes
21:58
him in the right way so these are mean extra
22:00
touches that guarantee a certain baseline.
22:03
I am in on Debo
22:05
Sanders. His touchdown totals in the wide
22:07
receiver two-year, eight of them on the
22:09
ground. I remember coming into the next season, we said, that's
22:11
just really hard to repeat. But he
22:14
had five last year. And so five is
22:16
in the cards for Debo every single year on the
22:18
ground. And so yeah, very
22:22
explosive player. He's not, he may
22:24
be drafted as a wide receiver too, but he's the kind
22:26
of player that can put up wide receiver one weeks over
22:30
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24:43
high on this player before he
24:45
had a quarterback, and now Andy
24:47
has just been talking mad junk
24:49
about Drake London. He's
24:53
out on Drake London. He's going to have no shares of
24:55
Drake London. So is that- Do you ever say sentences and
24:57
realize how little truth there is in them and then just
24:59
like wish you didn't say them? No,
25:01
that was just only the beginning part. I
25:03
still am happy I said them. You do say
25:05
sentences. Look, I didn't even know how
25:07
you can extrapolate hatred. He's
25:10
ranked nine for me. You
25:13
have him at nine. Yes. No,
25:15
I'm just speaking of the fact that- Range of
25:17
Outcomes is a question. You did bring up, and
25:19
I do think fairly the other day, that his
25:21
ADP, Drake London's fiery
25:26
group of supporters has maybe swung
25:28
the pendulum too far into superstardom
25:30
that we haven't yet seen from
25:33
Drake London. So we've got him. I've
25:35
got him at nine. Andy's got him at nine. Mike's got
25:37
him at 10. We're expecting big things for
25:40
a wide receiver who has not yet done that but
25:42
has not had the opportunity to do it. Should
25:45
he be drafted as a top 10 wide receiver
25:47
for 2024? I
25:50
think some of the points that I made, Garrett
25:52
Wilson had bad quarterback play, still put up bigger
25:54
seasons than Drake London did. Kurt
25:57
Cousins hasn't supported a wide receiver one above
25:59
wide receiver. receiver seven all
26:01
but one time. I mean like Jefferson,
26:04
yes, Jefferson is very, very, very, very,
26:06
very special. But
26:09
outside of that, it's been, you know, Thelin finished
26:11
at seven one year, but all the
26:13
years of Diggs and Thelin and Garcon and
26:15
those number ones for Kirk Cousins in the
26:17
past, you know, there was a time
26:19
we used to view Kirk Cousins more in the Derek
26:21
Carsphere of like maybe he's not
26:23
going to be able to throw enough touchdowns.
26:25
Maybe he won't have enough consistency over the
26:27
course of multiple games. I
26:30
just think that the range of outcomes for
26:32
Drake London is much wider than almost every
26:34
other name in the top 10. I think London
26:36
can finish at nine where we have them ranked. I
26:39
don't think, you know, I
26:42
wouldn't be surprised if it was 22 because
26:44
there are tons of weapons. Kyle Pitts
26:46
is a bonafide wide receiver in the
26:49
offense. They added Darnell Mooney. Bijon is
26:51
a wide receiver in the offense. So
26:54
is there a world where Drake London makes
26:56
less of an impact than people would like him to?
26:59
Yes, but it all comes down to draft costs. I loved him
27:01
before he got a quarterback because
27:04
I expected them to get somebody and
27:06
him to take a step up from wide receiver 39. That's
27:11
not an unreasonable take to say, wow, he's going to
27:13
go, you know, finish much higher
27:15
than that regardless of the change. But
27:17
now the cost is very expensive. He's drafted as the
27:19
wide receiver 10. So you're having to make, you
27:22
know, you're having to take him well
27:24
above Deebo. You're having to take him above IU. You're having
27:26
to take him above DJ Moore. Well, I
27:28
think where you take him is an interesting conversation because
27:30
usually it's right around Garrett Wilson and there is a
27:32
fair debate to be seen. Which he's at eight in
27:34
our rankings if you want to wrap them together. Yeah.
27:37
So I have Drake London one spot
27:39
ahead of Garrett Wilson. We
27:42
collectively have Garrett Wilson one spot ahead of
27:44
Drake London. That's the decision. You're
27:46
not going to get both those guys in a draft. You're going to be
27:48
staring down a draft spot and you're going to say, whose
27:51
Range of outcomes is better? Whose
27:53
ceiling is better? What Do you
27:55
believe about the two Achilles quarterbacks
27:57
coming back off of? It's.
28:00
Absurd that we have.
28:03
Such. A parallel. A
28:06
situation for both of these quarterbacks. Both
28:08
quarterbacks are old. both of them are
28:10
coming off of an achilles injury. Dow.
28:12
Different Leg: Kirk Cousins is the plant
28:15
leg. For. The Achilles Terror. It.
28:17
Like. Is. That worse. Or
28:20
at the I will that end up being
28:22
worse and in the recovery process. But.
28:24
We know that. A
28:26
great London for. All. Of
28:28
the things that have gone wrong so far. We're.
28:30
Least have. Like. We've
28:32
seen through ceiling games from him.
28:35
Where. You know you had the week against
28:37
Washington. I for one twenty five against
28:39
Tampa Bay. Ten for one seventy two.
28:42
And. Right now I'm trying to
28:44
do next a quick scour here of.
28:47
Of Gear Wilson and for how great
28:49
he is. A essentially
28:51
has like one of those types of
28:53
games in his rookie season april one,
28:55
sixty two against Minnesota where he's
28:57
been a target monsieur. He's got him
29:00
most targets through two years, basically ever.
29:02
I'm. He. Has been
29:04
the centerpiece of the offense and I do think
29:06
right now bringing in Mike Williams. that's if you
29:09
want to say what that what the difference is
29:11
because I love both these players. A,
29:13
I really debated which one am I going to
29:15
slot in person to me, it came down to
29:17
which quarterback to I think is better, right? Which.
29:20
To me, I. Think. Kurt I would
29:22
take her cousins over. This
29:24
age of Aaron Rodgers and.
29:27
I think that the competition is worse
29:29
with Mike Williams coming in for Gary
29:31
Wilson and finally having. Someone.
29:34
Else on the Fuchs he's had like. Nobody.
29:36
Else throw the ball to protect national good as a
29:38
plus for my boys because he thought high volume wider
29:41
see read in her Keenan Allen. So.
29:43
Got off of in a sealed here. So.
29:46
Yeah, I'd look it's gonna be like you said
29:48
is going to be a decision between these two
29:50
players. Mike and I both have Wilson presently ahead
29:52
of London, but not by much. Ah,
29:54
I've seen more from Wilson. That. makes
29:57
me believe in his
29:59
consistent to get open and be a go-to
30:03
guy, but look, it's gonna
30:05
be fun. Those are both weirdly
30:07
parallel situations like he said, and
30:10
Garrett Wilson has been, look, he's
30:12
coming off of his season where he's like, that was not fun.
30:14
That was the worst season of my life. That was the
30:17
worst thing to deal with. They didn't have a backup quarterback,
30:19
so he went out there kind of doing his
30:22
best knowing that his
30:24
best wasn't gonna be good enough for that offense.
30:27
I think Garrett Wilson has a higher potential to be
30:29
a top five guy personally. Is that a good discussion?
30:32
I think that's a good tiebreaker of who
30:35
has, in your opinion, the
30:37
clearest path to over-performing because
30:40
you're paying up that
30:42
you are really really hoping that this guy
30:44
at least maintains value and is a wide
30:46
receiver one, but who can make the
30:48
jump to being truly a top five at
30:51
the position and a difference maker more than
30:53
not? I think
30:55
it's gonna be difficult for fantasy players too. What
31:00
if you can spend a one
31:02
round later selection? You can
31:04
let Garrett Wilson and Drake London and all the
31:06
mysteries of Achilles and quarterbacks in age and
31:09
new companion wide receivers and you can let it
31:11
all go, and then
31:13
in the next round you can take your shot on Depot. I
31:16
mean that seems like a choice or
31:19
or Lave or DJ
31:21
Moore or something like what's
31:24
the percentage chance that Drake London
31:26
outperforms a Lave? Look,
31:29
that's tough. Yeah, it comes down to Kirk.
31:32
That's entering a range where I'm willing to
31:34
take the draft discount, spend a
31:36
higher pick on a running back, at
31:39
least with those names. I don't feel like
31:41
there's lock solid guarantees. I'm looking at ADP
31:43
and next to Garrett Wilson on
31:45
one side is Breece Hall on
31:47
the other is Tamir Gibbs next
31:49
to Drake London and you're talking
31:52
about Kyron Williams or Jonathan Taylor.
31:54
So yeah, I think
31:56
grabbing one of those... Those are no-touch wide
31:58
receivers right now. So that
32:01
range I would rather have those running backs because I
32:03
do like some of the wide
32:05
receivers that are around later.
32:07
That's excellent. Obviously we're still really
32:09
far away from August when things
32:11
will solidify but as of right
32:14
now. Well and there is a chance in the
32:16
draft that the Jets who have been
32:18
working out different wide receivers they could take a big
32:20
name. I think you're going to
32:22
start looking at New York a little bit differently if it was.
32:25
Brock Bowers, if Brock Bowers goes in does
32:27
that hurt Garrett Wilson? I
32:30
wouldn't be too freaked. No
32:33
not as a rookie. Okay. But
32:35
if it was. O'Doonze. O'Doonze. Yeah,
32:39
O'Doonze at number 10 overall.
32:42
I think that could have an impact. I think
32:44
it could happen too. But to me if it's
32:46
not one of those three guys who I see
32:48
as a true number one it'll just
32:50
be a helpful addition to the
32:53
offense. At
32:56
number seven the
32:59
unstoppable Pukinakua just
33:01
22 years old. His ADP
33:03
is wide receiver six right now. I
33:07
feel like it's probably time if I'm
33:11
being honest. We want to be true
33:14
to our psychology. I think
33:16
it's time that I
33:18
walk into the throne room, bend
33:21
the knee and offer the
33:23
crown. There you go.
33:27
I don't think it's in my nature to
33:29
do it when a
33:31
player's had one season and yet this
33:33
season was 105 receptions for
33:35
almost 1,500 yards and six touchdowns. Which
33:38
means that the only reason I don't want to do it
33:41
is because Pukinakua wasn't a first round draft pick.
33:44
That's really the truth. If he was
33:46
drafted like Jamar Chase, if
33:49
he was a captain and he has this season,
33:51
zero dot zero doubts. I
33:53
would have no problem bending the knee. What
33:57
was nice about his performance? Now
34:00
some of it was it without Cooper cup so you
34:02
can you can debate that you can say well now
34:04
let's say cup plays a Whole season maybe it's not
34:06
going to be this good This could end up being
34:09
the best season of his career, which I mean when
34:11
you've got a season this good it can Right
34:13
any NFL players best season of their career? But
34:16
when you watch the film Over
34:19
and over from week one all the way
34:21
through the middle of the season to the
34:23
last game of the year You're just like
34:26
That guy's so good. Nothing's so
34:28
tough. Nothing's gonna change does
34:31
is Matthew Stafford still the quarterback. Yep, okay
34:34
Did Aaron Donald retire? Yep. Okay, so
34:36
like they were put in positions where they
34:38
were throwing the football a lot last year now You have a
34:41
lot of work to do with a young defense that doesn't
34:44
have a linchpin in the middle of it Nothing's
34:47
gonna change for Puca. He's just say he's safe
34:49
and I need to just accept it Well, you're
34:51
not gonna get an argument for me. He's my
34:53
wide receiver for I believe that
34:55
one in your heart He is
34:57
one in my heart. I love Puca.
34:59
He is out absolutely outstanding He's talented
35:01
on every level of the field. He
35:03
could take a screen. He can get
35:05
a bomb But when he's working across
35:07
the middle, he is
35:09
tough as nails and Stafford finds him
35:12
He looks for him and you want
35:14
pieces of a McVeigh Stafford
35:16
offense. It's been good for fantasy Whenever
35:19
Stafford is healthy, there's gonna be a ton of
35:21
famous point and yet and
35:23
yet 0.7
35:25
fantasy wide receivers repeat year to year that
35:28
finish inside the top ten. So Mike if
35:30
Cooper cup plays every game What
35:33
is the percentage chance that Puca Nakua finishes outside
35:35
the top 12 be that he's one of the
35:37
what is it? 6.8 that
35:39
dropout or 6.3 the dropout if Cooper cup
35:41
plays every game the chance that Puca Nakua
35:43
is not a Wide
35:46
receiver one in dynasty or
35:48
I'm sorry in in redraft I'd
35:51
put it low because you're telling me that Puca
35:53
is playing every game. They sure do. Yeah, really
35:56
low really low odds He he too
35:59
reliable to consist Yeah, like
36:01
this with the if the
36:04
red flag is six touchdowns on a
36:07
hundred on 160 targets only getting six
36:09
Receiving touchdowns. That's that's a
36:12
number that you would hope could come up Maybe
36:15
it does. Maybe it doesn't what was like
36:17
what where was Robert Woods? What
36:20
was his highest touchdown year when
36:22
he was playing that role for probably I'm
36:24
gonna guess eight I'm trying to pull
36:26
it up real quick. We got So
36:29
five six two six
36:33
I'm gonna guess six My
36:36
point being of like maybe that role
36:39
like is he just new
36:42
New young hotness where Robert Woods in this
36:44
office, which is great. Robert Woods was always
36:47
Like really strong for fantasy never this
36:49
good, but maybe the
36:51
touchdowns just don't roll to there. So My
36:55
point in bringing that up is maybe
36:57
Puka's not someone you're drafting going I'm
36:59
getting a top Three guy if
37:01
everything breaks, right? I feel real good
37:03
about my chance of being having a top three wide receiver
37:06
probably not but The
37:08
chance that you're getting a top 12 wide receiver Is
37:12
it seems very very strong especially when
37:14
you're talking about guys like like Garrett
37:16
Wilson and and Drake London of? Just
37:19
seeing how things could go wrong so quickly Robert Woods
37:21
is a great name to bring up because you have
37:23
to remember He he had
37:25
a season where he was a top 10 wide
37:27
receiver. Yes fantasy and he's Robert
37:30
Woods good, but he's not special. You say that
37:32
actually that just depresses me like relating
37:35
about the other about the role Okay,
37:38
because Puka's way better than Robert
37:40
Woods you you watch the speed
37:43
and the And the toughness
37:45
like Robert Woods didn't have some of these Abilities
37:48
that we used to yeah, I mean huge plays
37:50
down the sideline. Yeah. Yeah Puka can do it
37:52
all I just I want
37:54
to aim higher. I would aim at cup well,
37:57
and you're and and you're going from Jared Goff
38:00
to Stafford so that that does move the needle higher
38:02
I mean we talk about oh Robert Woods had a
38:04
top ten season. Pooka already had he was a wide
38:06
receiver four last year 160 targets
38:08
as a rookie as bananas. Let's
38:11
talk about one of the players that repeated
38:13
as a top 12 wide out. AJ
38:16
Brown comes in
38:18
at six on our rankings I
38:20
don't know why maybe you can explain it to me he's
38:24
like a begrudging pick. I know why. You
38:27
know why? Yeah because after
38:29
the bye week last year he
38:32
was he finished the
38:34
season pretty poorly the last eight
38:36
games of last season which is a that's
38:38
a big chunk that's half the season he
38:40
would have been on pace for sub 1000
38:42
yards so you saw it you saw the end of
38:45
the year you saw the Eagles really
38:47
struggling as an offense you saw this team that was
38:49
whatever they were like 10 and 0 just
38:52
start collapsing falling
38:54
apart early exit out
38:56
of the playoffs nothing was clicking
38:58
that that eight game stretch here
39:00
here are his exact numbers if you
39:03
extrapolate it over a season 82
39:05
receptions meh 958 yards two
39:11
touchdowns oh I mean it's
39:13
like that that's one touchdown scored after
39:15
the week 10 bye yeah I mean it it's it
39:18
was an average of 8.3
39:20
fantasy points per game and that was over the
39:22
entire second half stretch so that's why you feel
39:24
bad will that create some blindness will that be
39:26
it make him a value do you believe in
39:29
what Jalen hurts in the and the Eagles are going
39:31
to do this year he's currently being
39:33
drafted as the wide receiver seven that's where I have
39:35
him you guys both have him at six I was
39:38
gonna say ADP does not say that it's making people
39:40
afraid he's still a very
39:42
highly drafted player and there
39:44
are obvious ways it goes wrong now the
39:46
first half of last season he
39:49
was unstoppable he set the the record for
39:51
what was it how many consecutive games over
39:53
125 yards he was at what
39:57
seven one two three six
40:01
Am I missing one? One,
40:03
two, three, four, five, six. No, you're
40:06
not. Okay, all right. Who's
40:08
it? But worth pointing
40:10
out in that stretch, Tampa
40:13
Bay, who we were
40:15
targeting their secondary, the Manders,
40:17
the Rams, the
40:19
Jets, the Dolphins, and then the Manders again.
40:21
It was a pretty
40:24
juicy run there of
40:26
games, but he still- The Jets were literally
40:28
the hardest, but he just, that was included.
40:30
He still really came through. I
40:32
believe in A.J. Brown. A.J. Brown
40:35
is just so pumped. That's
40:38
the fun digs, what he did, what he did
40:40
at the second half of last year, because
40:42
otherwise- The heat would be all
40:44
on A.J. Brown. It's on her, it's
40:46
on Smith, it's on everybody. I mean, A.J. Brown
40:49
and Puca basically had identical
40:51
numbers last year, targets, catches,
40:53
yards, touchdowns. A.J.
40:55
Brown's had double digit touchdowns
40:57
a couple of times. I have him
41:00
ranked higher, because I do think he is more of a prototypical
41:03
touchdown guy. To
41:07
me, Cooper Cuff still represents a threat to
41:10
Puca in the touchdown numbers. I
41:13
have him a little bit higher, but look, we're at
41:15
the category of players where we're not needing to tell
41:17
you, like this isn't a show to
41:19
explain that these guys are good at football. It's
41:21
just about range of outcomes and what could happen. There
41:26
was a little bit of the, is he happy in
41:28
Philadelphia? We're
41:32
going to have a new offensive coordinator. Which I
41:35
love. Which could be
41:37
okay, could be good. It
41:40
was ironically very good for CD-Lam when this
41:43
coordinator departed. Well, it was pretty good for CD-Lam
41:46
when this coordinator was there as well, this coordinator
41:48
being Kellen Moore, but- He will not tell you
41:50
his name. What you saw this
41:52
last year for the Eagles after their
41:54
Super Bowl trip, they lost their offensive
41:56
coordinator, they lost their defensive coordinator, they
41:58
tried to hire from within. in and just say,
42:01
hey, we got to the Super
42:03
Bowl. Let's keep this mojo going. And they
42:05
brought the next men up into
42:08
roles that they had never done yet
42:10
as their opportunity. And both
42:12
those coordinators failed. I mean, they just did.
42:15
They were over their heads. And so those guys got
42:17
fired, and they brought in Vic Fangio,
42:21
and Kellen Moore. So they're
42:23
taking experience, knowing commodities, saying, let's go.
42:25
And I really like that. That gives
42:27
me confidence in the Eagles offense. Always
42:30
interesting, though, in those known commodities switch
42:32
teams as much as they have. I
42:35
always find that interesting, because it's like a
42:39
little Doc Rivers situation. Yeah. I
42:41
think you've got to take everybody on
42:43
an individual situation. Like Vic Fangio, he
42:46
gets to do whatever he wants. I think he left to
42:48
take this job. Kellen Moore was searching for a head coaching
42:50
gig that he felt like he wasn't going to be able
42:52
to get when he was in Dallas.
42:55
And obviously, the clearing of the house. For
42:58
the charter. No, you can make stories in both
43:01
directions. I mean, they're all facts. You
43:04
know, yeah, sure. They're facts. I
43:07
mean, you could have stayed. They're narratives. They could have. Jim
43:09
Harbaugh could have been like, man, this guy's so good. I want to
43:11
keep him. Like, that could have happened, right? No.
43:13
Jim Harbaugh? Why not? Because he
43:16
wants to Greg Roman run the
43:18
ball. OK. All right. I'm just
43:20
saying. The offense
43:22
in Dallas got better. That's what I'm saying. It got
43:24
better without him. That's a fact. That
43:27
is also a fact. So let's move
43:29
on. Top five. Justin
43:33
Jefferson's sitting at five. Because
43:35
of you guys. Well,
43:38
you have him at seven. I know. I'm just saying he's on my
43:40
top five. Sometimes, you
43:43
know, this could go both directions. This could be dumb.
43:46
He could be the bona fide number one easily. And
43:49
so, you know. Not
43:51
easily. Not easily. Yeah, really
43:54
easily. I mean, to be
43:56
the number one wide receiver, I have like double
43:58
digit touchdowns, right? So last year, you. You've got
44:00
an Achilles injury to your quarterback and you get 100
44:03
targets in 10 games? It's 170 target pace. You
44:06
get 68 receptions per 10-74 and 5. This
44:10
would have been right
44:12
at one-ish spot last year
44:14
with not
44:17
a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 missed weeks.
44:21
Oh, everything is, Kirk Cousins
44:24
is gone. In
44:26
the games that we had, Nick
44:28
Mullins, essentially we
44:30
had a four-week stretch of him. So
44:32
it's a backup quarterback
44:34
as Sam Darnold
44:37
is at least at this point. Nick
44:40
Mullins was the QB in those four weeks. Two
44:43
weeks were sensational. Two weeks against Detroit,
44:46
which was a team that
44:48
we loved to target for the secondary and
44:51
the opportunity for huge games. In
44:53
Cincinnati and Green Bay, he was the wide receiver 26
44:55
and then he was the wide receiver Variability
44:59
will be there without consistency according
45:01
to us. But total output could
45:03
easily be number one overall. Jefferson,
45:05
I don't see a,
45:07
with Sam Darnold, I don't see a world where
45:10
Jefferson is the number one guy, but
45:12
he's just, he's so good and so special
45:15
that he's still at least in the top five. I
45:17
think he's the number one wide receiver in the
45:19
NFL. Most receiving yards in NFL history in
45:21
a season with 10 games played up to you. Just
45:23
talking fantasy. Just fantasy for 2024. That
45:27
it, and there's,
45:30
there is no one coming out of the
45:32
smoke. Like just appearing. It's either Sam Darnold
45:35
or it's a rookie quarterback that they trade up
45:37
to get. There's one quarterback that could come out
45:39
of the smoke. Say
45:42
it would not be Traland. No,
45:45
the only quarterback. The only way that Joseph Jefferson,
45:47
I think finishes 2024 as the
45:50
wide receiver one because you
45:53
have to have touchdowns there. He'll be great. He'll have
45:55
a hundred receptions. He'll have 1300 plus to
45:57
1700 yards. I just
45:59
worry about the touchdowns. would
46:02
be Kyler
46:06
Murray. Oh what a Kyler trade?
46:08
No. A Jefferson trade. Stop it.
46:10
What are you doing? I'm
46:13
just saying the Cardinals got the money.
46:15
You draft Marvin
46:17
Harrison. Give me Justin Jefferson
46:20
baby. I'm just speaking into
46:22
existence Mike. There's been rumors. There
46:24
have been rumors.
46:28
From you! No, no, no, no. I
46:31
mean I am certainly propagating
46:33
more rumor. Please trade. Get out of
46:35
here. It's not happening. No, it's not
46:37
happening. Got any more dreams? Joe
46:40
Montana at Arizona? Jerry
46:42
Rice? Okay, I
46:45
mean look, I still believe Jefferson is in
46:47
the category of easily could be number one.
46:49
Like there's only a handful of whiteouts that
46:52
could be number one overall. Jefferson is still in that
46:54
category for me. We do.
46:56
Dathan hates him. I love him. We
46:58
do bring up Larry
47:01
Fitzgerald, obviously first ballot Hall of Famer
47:05
for a long stretch, maybe the best wide receiver in the
47:07
NFL. When he lost his quarterback
47:09
in the prime of his career, he went
47:11
from being a fantasy dominator to being a
47:15
good NFL wide receiver who for fantasy
47:17
purposes was mediocre. Now Justin Jefferson's style
47:20
of play in this modern NFL, I
47:22
think he'll be better. I've
47:24
still got him at wide receiver seven. He's
47:26
great. I just worry about what the actual
47:29
tip top ceiling is because I
47:31
don't see him having more than seven touchdowns. So many
47:33
words for, you could have just said, I hate him.
47:36
That would have summed it up. That would have been the cliff
47:38
notes of the sentence that you were going to say and then
47:40
we would have been able to move on. I
47:42
do hate Sam Darnold. You're
47:45
right. Quick break back with a
47:47
player that I think will
47:49
be very hard for people to take over
47:51
Justin Jefferson, but maybe not. A
48:02
jump. A block. It's
48:05
only a serve. It's only
48:08
a tackle. A run.
48:10
It's only for the fan. After
48:13
all, it's only pressure. You
48:16
got this. Adidas. Next
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48:25
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48:49
know who's just right? Most
50:00
important: Fantasy wide receiver. And.
50:03
Even if he finishes at number
50:05
five because he is. He.
50:07
Has. Through. Boom Games.
50:10
Like. Twelve. For one
50:12
twenty four with a touchdown I
50:14
get it's in the range of
50:16
of outcomes for him. Finish the
50:18
year. For. Straight weeks where
50:20
the touched and one twelve with a score, one
50:22
of six with a score ninety and scored one
50:24
forty four and a touchdown. Meet.
50:27
He has that built into him. But.
50:29
What? Is. Very rare for
50:31
ahmed rock is to. To.
50:33
Have a week where you go. Where
50:36
was the what the heck happened arm and
50:38
rubella with a deer brown? Second half. Umar
50:40
Chase these games habit I do eat
50:42
meat just A A ceiling A from
50:45
tomorrow chases A is much higher than
50:47
a ceiling game from Almond Roth. But.
50:49
It's. That. Consistency with ceiling
50:51
games built in. I dig that
50:53
he's. Just. Might be the second
50:56
most important wide fantasy wide receiver.
50:58
Consistency. Is a huge factor. When.
51:01
You're drafting a wide receiver to be or number
51:03
one him knowing what you're going to get And
51:05
he was. In. A buyer consistency
51:07
metric. eighty eight percent of his games
51:10
the exceeded. Ten. And half. Points.
51:13
At we are add pluses I mean just
51:15
for almond raw. I am feals insulting
51:18
to be like burrow those just than a year
51:20
and a is just like all your games are
51:22
we should add poverty valve. Want to get on?
51:24
There are am I looking at his his game
51:26
log. Week. To. Technically.
51:29
He was the wide receiver. Thirty six. That's.
51:32
I face but he was six receptions for
51:34
one hundred and two yards. That's that's not
51:36
a gamer. I look at almond run a mad
51:38
about on a stable the defense. He has
51:40
one game he had one game last year.
51:43
Where. It was three for twenty one
51:45
against Chicago and I was an absolute disaster.
51:47
Part of the secret I think and why
51:49
City Lamb was so great and while I'm
51:51
on rise. So great from a fantasy consistency
51:53
standpoint. Is. These guys get moved
51:55
around and they play in the slot a ton. Fifty.
51:59
five percent For
52:02
alman, Ross St. Brown, and I believe when we looked
52:04
the other day, wasn't, wasn't CD
52:06
Lam in that same, like 60%? I
52:09
think he was like 51. Okay,
52:12
51%. So you
52:14
know, you talk about scheming out a wide receiver. If
52:17
Jamar Chase is on the outside and you
52:19
bracket him and the team's decision making can
52:22
be, hey, I can do more letting
52:24
Jamar Chase draw the defense for
52:26
a half or something to that
52:29
extent. So I
52:31
get it. You can't
52:33
argue against Dom Monroe. He has improved each and
52:35
every year. You had 17 points
52:38
per game. So it's like
52:40
as a rookie, 90 for five, then 106 for six, then
52:42
119 and 10. Maybe
52:46
he doesn't get to 10 touchdowns, but he
52:49
will just, he will be so solid and good
52:51
for your team that there's,
52:55
you can, you can find a little bit of nitro the
52:57
next round in the draft. And he was
52:59
on pace for 125 receptions. That's
53:01
just a baseline that gives you guaranteed production
53:04
every, every game. The only
53:06
guys that are anywhere near there are the
53:08
other two. It's Tyree Kill and CD
53:10
Lam last year. Well, I was going to give you
53:13
the top three here all at once and then
53:15
we can debate the differentiators. Jamar Chase comes in at
53:17
three. Number
53:19
two, CD Lam, who was last year's number one
53:21
overall and number
53:24
one Tyree Kill. And I think it
53:26
depends on scoring system. Obviously I think Tyree was number one
53:28
in some scoring systems, but Chase,
53:32
Lam, Tyree, the
53:36
difficult year was Chase. He finished at 13 and
53:39
had some games where he disappeared and, um, and
53:42
just so the T Higgins be looking at
53:44
the first 10 weeks for Jamar because Burrow
53:46
went out week 11. But
53:49
it also took several weeks for Burrow to get
53:51
going. Yeah, it did. Yeah, that's the first, the
53:53
first month of the season, Burrow wasn't himself. He
53:55
stonked. Cause he had the calf injury and training
53:57
camp. Yes, he was coming in. those
54:00
first two weeks you had Jamar
54:02
Chase with 39 and 31 yards, you know
54:04
Jamar Chase is great. You've seen
54:07
him finish as a top five wide receiver in
54:09
his rookie season. Now he's going
54:11
to have fewer target competition, you know, it
54:13
passes to go around, not even saying to
54:15
get rid of T Higgins. Tyler
54:17
Boyd is gone and, you know,
54:20
this is a team that is going to be,
54:22
you know, licking their wounds
54:24
and looking to bounce back from a really
54:26
down season due to the injury to burrow.
54:29
I love Jamar Chase, I don't have, he's
54:32
my three. I couldn't imagine taking him over the
54:34
other two guys. To me that's
54:36
a tear break. Like Tyreek and C.D.
54:38
Lamb are, they're
54:42
just unstoppable fantasy forces right now.
54:44
What's crazy is the boom games.
54:47
He had five top ten games.
54:50
He never finished once between wide receiver
54:52
11 and 26. So
54:55
you disappear. I ain't no wide receiver two. No,
54:57
he's like, I am either not here or
54:59
I am winning you your week. That's kind
55:01
of been the Jamar Chase experience at times
55:04
where he could put up 254 and three easily.
55:09
But yeah, last year it was tough. Had some,
55:11
you know, things go wrong for this team throughout the year.
55:14
C.D. Lamb on the other hand,
55:16
in the shadow of the dismissal of
55:18
Kellen Moore, in the furious
55:21
worries of Mike McCarthy being an old
55:23
head that just wanted to run
55:25
the ball. Look, that didn't happen at all.
55:29
Honestly, we said it multiple times. Last
55:32
year I kind of like what Mike McCarthy was doing
55:35
in Dallas and
55:37
135 for 1749 and 12. And
55:42
he's not, you can't scheme him out. I watched
55:44
enough football last year where it was like, sometimes
55:47
you just laugh. You're just like, it's like Tyreek.
55:50
You're just like, I don't know why, why is
55:52
he always open? Why can he throw it to him
55:54
on any play he wants to? So
55:58
you know, this was, this was. The a massive
56:00
season. This was to pick up from twenty twenty
56:02
one type a year. Is. Unbelievable
56:04
and he should be on my Guiness roster
56:07
of not for you to losers. He's remember
56:09
saying they say up right now man of
56:11
okay. If he
56:13
were on your team right now he
56:15
would not be. Oh yes he was
56:17
filtered Cfc Want my? That's disappointing that
56:20
supports you'd five a long it on
56:22
getting me to trade skill a while
56:24
for electronics. I pad. It's.
56:27
A fair point and maybe around never lived That
56:29
counts as you guys gonna remind me anytime we
56:31
get asked the question all the time like oh,
56:33
you have any moves you regret or whatever I
56:35
never think of I had to wear in the
56:38
moment but I've regretted. have you know the truth?
56:40
The right. Do. You know the truth. To.
56:42
Lot of would have been the wide receiver.
56:45
One less money you had made the day.
56:47
It's that's how fantasy world as soon as
56:49
to Ah so when you look at top
56:51
ten wide receiver fantasy seasons of all time.
56:54
Food and points per game. Number.
56:56
One. Cooper. Cop from Twenty
56:58
Twenty One. Number. Two.
57:02
Is. Sitting there isn't so this is. ah,
57:04
I guess this is organized by total fancy
57:06
points. sorry. Cooper. Couples number one Jerry
57:08
Rice and Ninety Five was under to. Randy.
57:11
Moss and Two Thousand Seven We all
57:13
remember that are you fear hold And
57:15
then Cd. Lamb. Comes.
57:17
In and before. And. Total
57:19
Fantasy points put up so probably. Now.
57:22
That I'm going to repeat that. To be fair,
57:24
Tyree comes in a number six. All time is
57:26
right there from last year while. Dow.
57:28
Is of. Those. Are
57:30
like league winning seasons?
57:33
Yeah. Wideouts pretty impressive.
57:36
So. He he was I is Champions League
57:38
a record is a champion and are dicey
57:40
league. And of Brother Jeb in
57:42
your league too, Good not him
57:44
in Fl goods I now know.
57:47
Don't care. So. Number one
57:49
is Tariq. He thirty years old
57:52
so maybe you don't care now
57:54
case he is playing with. The.
57:57
least talented court about of the three Big
58:00
the big three. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine by
58:03
me. He Will
58:05
probably be great and win you a lot of weeks
58:07
again yeah, I mean
58:10
he he's he's unstoppable and
58:13
he used to be a Giant
58:15
big play low-volume guy and we just
58:17
talked about you know he he had
58:19
the same exact reception
58:22
number that Alman Ra had and you
58:24
just don't think about him like that you think about like Alman
58:27
Ra's the slot guy this possession receiver. That's like
58:30
PPR machine That's not Tyreke
58:32
Tyreke's like way down on the other end of
58:34
the field Yeah, but he's getting the same amount
58:36
of targets and or at least
58:38
reception It's just he's he's not
58:41
a number one pick or the number two
58:43
and after Christian McCafford is not apples to
58:45
apples But it
58:47
is a counterpoint to the leaving your great
58:49
quarterbacks going to cost you Tyreke
58:52
ill great player Goes
58:54
to a situation. Nobody expected him to
58:56
be better. Mm-hmm, and he's better so
58:59
Sam Donald would be
59:01
better Sam Donald is Not
59:04
better. No, but Two
59:06
was not better than my homes. No, of course.
59:08
So so there is a world where like Target
59:11
and talent targets and talent, you
59:14
know Makes a pretty
59:16
significant difference So
59:19
I just don't it out there, you know, you want to
59:21
bring up Larry Fitts. I'm gonna bring up Tyreke moving. That's
59:23
all sure I would you know, I
59:25
would say Mike McDaniel because the
59:27
scheme is so important Yeah,
59:30
like he McDaniel. They knew
59:32
what they were doing when they Could
59:35
get him in a trade and they traded Everything
59:37
to get him and then gave him the cash.
59:40
Yeah, it's fun to watch Mike McDaniel talk about that Like
59:42
the when he found out there was a chance he could
59:44
get this guy and just knowing I
59:46
haven't seen that clip what that Represents for
59:49
the team and like how they'll do anything
59:51
like I can put that guy on my team So
59:55
yeah, there you go. There's your there's
59:57
your top ten countdown. I'll run it
59:59
back D-bo At 10 London
1:00:01
at 9 Wilson at 8 puka
1:00:03
at 7 Brown at 6 Jefferson at 5
1:00:07
Amunrod for chase at 3 lamb at 2
1:00:10
Cyriq at 1 We
1:00:14
did it next week. What are
1:00:16
we talking about? Al? What's next week's
1:00:19
agenda? I think we got running backs
1:00:21
the countdown is furiously Tuesday and Thursday.
1:00:24
That is correct You
1:00:27
know I try to Um
1:00:30
early running back rankings. Yeah, so of the
1:00:32
two-parter next week and looking forward
1:00:34
to it. I Think that's
1:00:36
it. I think we're done. We are all
1:00:38
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