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Early WR Rankings: Top 10 Countdown, Risk vs Reward - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/11

Early WR Rankings: Top 10 Countdown, Risk vs Reward - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/11

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Early WR Rankings: Top 10 Countdown, Risk vs Reward - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/11

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Thursday, 11th April 2024
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Will go to the Fantasy

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and the Holloway or Chase

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and more. My grades. Ah

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welcome! To

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As you go bowling or babu.

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Thursday, April Eleven. That's

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right, we're back. Mike

1:42

right. Jason

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More Andy Holloway, The.

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well. The. Jews

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get it right into the microphone, but

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wouldn't have known what they were. It might have gotten edited

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out if I didn't call it out. People might have been

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searching their speakers saying, I got a problem. Yeah.

2:12

They would have thought that there's an issue

2:14

with the wiring. Yeah. Oh, my car speaker

2:16

does that sometimes. That

2:18

was the intro to the show. Sorry.

2:21

Sorry. We'll move on. Well,

2:25

we just did an early wide receiver

2:27

rankings episode. We counted it down from 20 to

2:29

11. So today we

2:31

will do the early top 10 wide receiver

2:33

rankings. And

2:36

we'll talk about a

2:38

very interesting quick question. It

2:41

should be a good show. It should be fun. There's

2:43

a couple of players in particular on the top

2:46

10 countdown that

2:48

I think will be hotly contested today

2:51

and throughout the off season. And

2:54

you're going to have to plant your flag on

2:56

what you believe about these players because

2:59

the cost to acquire them will

3:03

be priced. It will be expensive. It

3:05

will be something where if you're wrong,

3:07

it is a significant impact to the

3:10

foundation of your team, in my opinion. Yeah,

3:12

for sure. You get the top picks

3:14

wrong and you're going to have to scrap and

3:17

claw your way back. I don't think a lot of the

3:19

early Cooper Cup drafters last year had a great time. Like

3:22

when you miss it. No, we did not. Oh,

3:24

man. Yeah. Same

3:26

with Garrett Wilson last year. When

3:29

Aaron Rodgers played, what, like

3:31

four seconds of a game. It

3:34

didn't work. You

3:37

saw all of your plans crumbling. If

3:39

we have extra time, we'll jump into the mailbag

3:41

as well. A couple reminders at the top of

3:43

the episode. There

3:46

is a new Dynasty podcast

3:48

episode out. It was yesterday's

3:51

show and it is a mock

3:53

draft mayhem episode. Jason Moore, Matthew

3:55

Betts, Kyle Borgannoni. How much Mayhem

3:58

actually happened? I'm quite a

4:01

bit of made him and and you know what was

4:03

really fun. It was a great so I highly recommend

4:05

if you if you haven't given it a listen yet.

4:07

If you want to learn about of these these upcoming

4:09

rookies it is a very very good So. I.

4:12

Honestly thought. The. Cows idea

4:14

of how we were going to do the mayhem right

4:16

and is just like being honest I thought was so

4:18

stupid yeah I thought I was like this is the

4:20

time is it again this is gonna some of this

4:22

is not can go well. And. Then

4:24

it not only did it go well. What

4:27

a great idea like it was

4:29

actually says still has actually Super

4:31

Bowl from like a fantasy perspective and

4:33

how you would shift based on what

4:36

happens of the draft so it's is

4:38

great episode Check it out of young

4:40

rookie. Mock. Draft

4:42

Mayhem of from from A Dynasty

4:45

Prospective. Ah, we also

4:47

want to remind you about the ultimate draft,

4:49

yet, don't We might. Certainly.

4:51

Do That is Not a secrets.

4:54

Were. Filled out Journal: the ultimate F No no

4:56

it's not as a test, that other bag or from.

5:00

L to the drafted.com Low as possible

5:02

price right now. And. The Dynasty

5:04

Pass will be getting it's. Third,

5:07

The The The Big Bada Boom update

5:09

will be out shortly after the Nfl

5:11

draft. Or I saw a

5:13

quick question of the day from you tube Thomas

5:16

Rights and says. Well.

5:18

I guess it's a question. He.

5:21

Wants sense like a dummy. A kind of

5:23

a demand rights the Packers wide receivers for

5:25

Dynasty a rank on. What's.

5:27

The gas money to another gonna request no

5:29

less than a demand. But. He

5:32

he already had demonstrably and I'd feel like

5:34

I should have a a rake the Packers

5:36

Jason. Reckon I

5:38

think the real question. Primarily.

5:41

Is. At the top. Who's. The one who's the

5:43

to. Because. I would. I

5:45

would imagine that all three of us. Have.

5:48

Christian Watson and. Of.

5:51

The agreement yeah degree was that was a face.

5:54

You're doing my face Hussein that there is. Still,

5:56

I still think the windows cracked open for their

5:58

to be another number one like I. I do

6:00

think that there's the possibility that- Like

6:02

Dobbs? Like Dobbs comes still. I mean, that's

6:05

what makes them so hard. That's why he is demanding

6:07

this, is because you have talent

6:10

throughout the roster with Jaden Reed Watson.

6:12

We've seen the big plays and the

6:14

touchdowns with Romeo Dobbs, reliable. And

6:16

then even Dontavian Wicks, who

6:20

I think from a skill set standpoint really stood

6:22

out last year. Yes, he did. And

6:24

so, you know,

6:26

it's hard because Jaden Reed is a little

6:29

less prototypical. He

6:32

is great with the ball in his hand. They

6:34

give him end-of-rounds. They give him short area targets.

6:37

He seems to be a go-to receiver at times.

6:39

And then other times, he can

6:42

fade away from a game plan because of just

6:44

the nature of his physicality and the type of

6:46

player that he is. And it

6:49

makes it more complicated. I mean, he's 5'11, 187. He's

6:53

an explosive player, but he

6:55

can disappear, but yet ended the year with

6:58

four straight top performances. Yeah, Jaden Reed's a

7:00

good football player, a good wide receiver. The

7:02

question for fantasy purposes is can he be

7:04

the one for this team? He

7:06

clearly was at the end of the season when they

7:09

needed him and he came through big time. Those four

7:11

games, Andy, he was on pace

7:13

over those four games if you extrapolate that over

7:15

17, just to give you an idea of how good he

7:17

was. It would have been over 100 receptions, just

7:21

under 1200 yards and 13 touchdowns. He

7:25

was a monster at the end

7:27

of the season. How well he scored. He was

7:29

always dealing with a chest and a toe injury.

7:31

Say he scored a touchdown on 13% of his

7:33

touches. And

7:36

that's great, but the nice thing about those numbers

7:38

is the yards and the receptions were there too.

7:40

So it wasn't just like, well, all this production

7:42

came from touchdown. No, I'm not saying it all

7:44

comes from touchdowns, but I'm saying every

7:47

7 1,5 touches for Jaden Reed, he

7:49

scored a touchdown. That's not... It's

7:52

certainly not. I would bet against it. Yeah, especially

7:54

for 187 pound player, But

7:57

that pace was 13 touchdowns. Yeah, and...

8:00

And none on that. Oh

8:02

those games where the game zippy in

8:04

those year the Christian Watson was not

8:06

in. So. When Chris of want to play

8:08

it over seventy percent of the snaps through the middle

8:10

of the season weeks five to thirteen. How

8:13

to didn't read do in those games when he

8:15

wasn't necessarily the focal point of off it's a

8:17

gameplan. Well. He would have something

8:19

a piece of. Fifty nine

8:21

receptions, For. Six hundred and

8:24

fifty eight yards. And. Six Touchdowns.

8:26

So I do believe that when the

8:28

entire wide receiver corps is healthy and

8:30

together. Christen. Wants and is still.

8:33

A primary focus he's still be. Better.

8:35

Athlete Now this is. I mean it's

8:37

debatable. This is just my we will

8:40

debate. This is my view and in

8:42

it's really just an educated opinion because

8:44

there's no way to know. You know

8:46

it's hard. It's it's hard to extrapolate.

8:49

A rookie season when a player is emerging. It's.

8:52

Hard to trust. cursing wants and

8:54

is perennially injured. So

8:57

both of those things complicate matters. I think

8:59

Dobbs probably doesn't have the ceiling. Which.

9:02

Would put him at three for me. But.

9:05

I lean it is to answer the question

9:07

or so the demand. I

9:09

would go read Watson Dobbs Wix.

9:12

That's read Watson Dobbs Wix. That's how I

9:14

have it as well. attorneys in the Hof

9:16

but the that. The. Fact that you're.

9:19

Debating. This and we're all kind of st.

9:21

Wow, I have it this way. This.

9:23

Is why. Like I

9:25

have Romeo Dobbs. As.

9:28

It in interesting trade for target

9:30

in dynasty because. See. Cheapest

9:32

he has. yeah he's like in the

9:34

don't even Wix is probably in category

9:36

to says if you want a cheap

9:38

entry point into the Green Bay Packers

9:40

wide receiver crew which you should. Because.

9:44

It. Looks like Join Love is the real deal.

9:46

Looks like the really Packers got it. They. They.

9:48

They nailed it again. And you're going

9:51

to have a stable quarterback. And.

9:54

A A A good high powered often see are.

9:56

You. Want pieces of it? Jane read.

9:59

Three. trade for Jane Reed right now in

10:01

dynasty is going to be extremely difficult and there

10:04

is still a chance that he just that

10:07

was kind of the most efficient and the best that you'll

10:09

ever see Jane Reed he'll be a good player but

10:12

maybe he never really comes through for for

10:14

dynasty so if I'm if

10:16

I'm going after a Green Bay Packer

10:19

it's probably Dobbs or Dontavian Wicks just

10:21

because they're cheaper and

10:23

I I really don't know who

10:27

is going to emerge I think that Christian Watson

10:29

is from it is the most

10:31

talented the highest ceiling should he be

10:33

able to become a more refined wide

10:35

receiver and if he can

10:37

ever have a healthy hamstring yeah I mean that's

10:39

the issue I I think even as an unrefined

10:42

receiver he can get it done if he can

10:44

just get on the field and stay there he

10:46

dealt with his hamstring issues and

10:48

and to be to be fair that is

10:50

an issue I know we don't try

10:52

to qualify guys as injury prone but

10:55

this is a human being a problem

10:57

that from basically Pee-Wee you

10:59

know football all the way he's been dealt with

11:01

injuries his entire career that being said

11:03

is he at the top of your head the

11:05

top of my list it goes Christian Watson Jaden

11:07

Reed for ceiling Dobbs Wicks because

11:09

of ceiling and I'm not gonna just predict injury

11:11

any of these guys could get injured next year

11:14

if they're all on the field I believe Christian

11:16

Watson is the best one to me he's the

11:18

trade-for target because Watson Christian

11:20

Watson I think people are done with them there

11:23

are plenty of people out there at least that are

11:25

done with them and it might just

11:27

be the people who have had him that

11:29

are the most sick of him like yeah

11:32

I'll take I'll take anything for this he

11:34

has been extremely touchdown-dependent in the games that

11:36

he was valuable for your fantasy team that

11:38

has been and also true and it can

11:40

be good and it can be bad and

11:42

and obviously he's very capable of getting into

11:44

the end zone and making big plays so

11:46

it'll be fascinating to watch I think we

11:48

all believe that Green Bay is gonna have

11:50

a lot of fantasy value stability

11:52

at the coach quarterback position it'll

11:55

be it'll be interesting and then just the

11:58

real quick bow here for me on Don

12:00

Tavy and Wicks, if you've been following the show

12:02

over the offseason, we're talking about rookies with their

12:05

targets per route run and yards per route run. He's

12:07

at a very healthy point of,

12:10

you know, he had a from weeks 12 through

12:13

18, over 22% of his

12:15

routes he was targeted. He had 2.21

12:17

yards per route run. That's a

12:19

good strong number for the sample size.

12:21

So he is a

12:25

fascinating second year player. And Jordan Love,

12:27

you know, maybe they

12:30

just trade for Jordan Love. Right,

12:32

yeah. Jordan Love was great. Do you do you realize where

12:34

he ranked in passing touchdowns last year? What

12:37

are your guesses? Total

12:39

touchdowns? Total passing touchdowns. What

12:42

was his rank? I would go quarterback what? I'm gonna

12:44

go. Wow. See, I don't know what

12:46

the setup is. I think the setup might be he

12:48

was good, but didn't have that many. I'm gonna guess

12:50

eight. Eight? I was seven, eight

12:52

was my gut reaction. Number

12:55

two. Number two. Yeah. Dak Press

12:57

got through more and that was

12:59

it. He threw more than Josh

13:01

Allen and Patrick Mahomes. So impressive.

13:03

Stupid backers. You're not allowed to

13:05

keep getting away with it. And

13:08

Duster's Alley's got a smirky Al

13:10

Borland over there. Remembering.

13:13

Yeah. Oh, gosh. He's cheering. Okay.

13:16

Just real quick temperature check

13:18

because hearing that and

13:20

these wide receivers and everything, it's so

13:22

wild. Jordan Love

13:25

at his price or CJ Stroud at

13:28

his price, Dynasty. It's gotta be Love.

13:30

Yeah, CJ Stroud's price is it's

13:32

not what it would not. It's your left arm.

13:35

I want both guys. I want both guys. I

13:39

want to keep my arms. I barely want

13:42

no arms. You want both arms.

13:44

I'm willing to give up both of mine to get

13:46

both those players. I think the future.

13:48

That's the future of the NFL, those two players.

13:50

Well, it could be Love. That

13:52

could be wild because if you drafted Jordan Love

13:55

and you sat and waited patiently

13:57

like the Green Bay Packers, you may not

13:59

be able to. able to get him. Yeah,

14:01

call me a hopeless romantic, but I

14:04

believe in love. Boston! Get

14:06

out of here. You're

14:10

proud of that one? Oh, yeah. I

14:13

drink in your groans. I love them. We

14:18

don't have any big NFL news to share.

14:20

The NFL Draft is a couple weeks away.

14:22

We announced yesterday the NFL Draft

14:25

Special, Fantasy Footballers Draft Special we're doing on

14:27

NFL Plus, so we'd love to have you

14:29

join us on April 25th at

14:31

the end of round one on draft night,

14:34

Fantasy Football reactions in the moment,

14:37

breaking down the skill position players and their

14:39

impact on so much. I

14:41

mean, it changes depth charts,

14:44

not just for the outlook of

14:46

the individual players drafted, but for

14:49

everybody else on those rosters when you spend high

14:51

draft capital. Put it in your calendar. But

14:55

the draft should be in your calendar, first of all.

14:57

You have to let people know that you are not

14:59

available the night of Thursday, April

15:01

25th, and you're not available after

15:04

the draft. Yeah, you're just not available. All

15:07

right. I think we don't have

15:10

anything else we're doing. Let's jump back

15:12

into the wide outs. Wide

15:17

receivers. All

15:20

right. Top

15:22

10, the countdown

15:24

continues. A little stat

15:26

for you for top 10 wide receivers over

15:29

the last decade. An

15:31

average of 3.7 players

15:33

repeated as top 10 wide

15:35

receivers from the previous year. Those are great. Now, when

15:37

I read it, I was like, ah, they're going to

15:39

say an average of 3.7 dropped out. No,

15:43

an average of 3.7 repeated as

15:45

top 10 wide receivers. The

15:48

most in the last 10

15:50

years to have repeated at all. When

15:53

things go well, it's five of the 10. So

15:56

injuries always play a part. You're not

15:58

going to, you know, Generally make

16:00

it through a full season like the way the

16:02

top ten finished. You know, Those.

16:05

Ten guys don't generally make it through seventeen

16:07

games healthy. Last

16:09

year's repeat name's. It.

16:12

Was Tyreke it was Cd Lamb

16:14

Zama Nra. They. Do a brown.

16:17

And. It was defined digs, barely. Barely.

16:20

Squeak to be replaced with first. I

16:22

do think it's kind of interesting when

16:24

you see those five names that did

16:26

repeat. I three of

16:28

them are really confident about. Marrying.

16:31

There's a fourth that maybe and maybe some

16:33

people are really confident about. Digs is the

16:35

one that's gonna drop out in people's minds,

16:37

but time in truth in in Re our

16:39

I'm probably yeah, but I'm I'm leaving the

16:42

door open for see destroyed to. Get.

16:44

On. Top. And. I

16:47

I'm leaving the door. Oh, I know it's not

16:49

impossible. Get it wouldn't shock me. I'm not going

16:51

to projected. I'm not going to draft him like

16:53

he. Is finishing top ten but. May.

16:56

Maybe it was a fluke. Maybe. The second

16:59

half was a fluke and was just the scheme.

17:01

so odd. but hell lamb an albatross a brown

17:03

will talk about the day for sir and the

17:05

know. I don't know what the opinions on a

17:07

day brown derby discussed at Ten. The.

17:10

Countdown continues with. Depot.

17:12

Sameness.

17:17

Depot. Is a man?

17:19

Is he Is. On.

17:22

Track or both. That's that's the

17:24

truth. Me: Neither is a good.

17:27

Football. Player right, good, wide receiver.

17:29

Is. A fine route runner is what we

17:31

eat. Whatever. throw all of that way

17:33

he's made. He's just out here. a.

17:40

Russian these what is your break down

17:43

that yards after catch? yes you know

17:45

we have. We were taught about this

17:47

would love mother player knows. just mind

17:49

blowing to see the yards after catch

17:51

per reception. Leaders: Over. The last

17:53

five years, so many of forty target to your.

17:56

Over. The yards after ten yards after catch.

17:59

Know. this is This is off of

18:01

the whole NFL the entire

18:03

thing all the wide receivers in the

18:05

NFL each of the last five years

18:08

So hundreds of wide receivers over five

18:10

years Five

18:13

of the top yearly finishes five

18:15

of the top eight are all

18:18

Deebo Sam the last five years

18:21

It goes Deebo Samuel was number one in 2020. He was

18:23

number three in 2021. He was number four in 2022 He

18:28

was number six in 2023 and number eight in 2019 not

18:30

like he ranked eight The

18:34

eighth best of the last five years was

18:36

him and he beat himself four times Is

18:40

he's just you cannot bring that man

18:42

to the ground easily you try and

18:46

Once he's got the ball in the hand in his

18:48

hands. He's gone now.

18:50

Can he stay healthy? The the wild

18:52

thing is is this year at least

18:55

in our initial unstatted? reactions

18:59

You're the highest on Deebo Samuel. I

19:01

don't know if that is you thinking about I you

19:03

ex departure It doesn't okay. Yeah, cuz we have talked

19:05

about that in studio. I obviously have always been a

19:08

big Deebo fan His problems been staying on the field

19:11

It was like an eye testing immediately like

19:13

the second he played an NFL game There

19:16

was something that said I'm better than you

19:19

about Deebo It was just a matter of putting it together over the

19:21

course of a season Health wise and

19:23

and so we've seen him finish at number

19:25

two at the position before Really

19:30

special player he had a run last year a four-week

19:33

stretch where he finished ninth second first

19:35

and ninth So four straight

19:37

tops and finishes five touchdowns That

19:40

was only after he you know, he broke his shoulder,

19:43

right? Yeah, and he finished at number two

19:45

overall in 2021 then dip down to

19:48

37 missed four games And

19:52

so and he was if you remember last offseason, he

19:54

was Talking about it. He

19:57

said that was the team had success and he

19:59

said Worse season of my

20:01

career. I. Was like. I.

20:04

Just played terrible. He said he just.

20:06

Played. Bad football. And. Then he came back

20:08

last year unfinished at twelve at the position, and he missed two

20:10

games. So. Many potential there

20:12

you also you you can't take away

20:14

the rushing opportunities for most wide receivers

20:16

for enough for most for all wide

20:19

receivers outside of Depot Samuel. Rushing.

20:21

Opportunities are just like a little salt

20:23

on est. You know it's nice you

20:25

to me like oh I'd prefer it

20:27

with that little extra desktop. For.

20:30

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20:32

states oh I was gonna go burn a

20:34

sub the oh that's that's better because of

20:36

still tapia ah but I mean. His.

20:39

Were the way he's utilized in the

20:41

Russia game. Budget is so valuable for

20:43

famous is sort of thing. Adjacent might

20:45

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20:47

for a steak at a restaurant while

20:49

using like of her name. you want

20:51

the I'll take them as ten or

20:53

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20:55

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20:57

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21:04

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21:06

a bomb as I don't even wanna

21:08

see the state is just a played

21:10

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21:12

was in others are buried scissors or

21:14

meet stupid themselves. Possum says that Albert

21:16

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21:19

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21:21

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21:23

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21:25

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21:27

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21:29

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21:31

picture yeah mess potato. Mountain that's why I'm a call

21:33

it. A

21:35

but but with the point I was

21:38

making so he has averaged in his

21:40

career one point three to fantasy points.

21:42

Per. Rushing attempts. And. For context,

21:46

Christian. Mccaffrey. Averages.

21:49

Zero Point Six eight. So.

21:51

Says over double. Every time

21:54

he touches the ball. More valuable

21:56

for fantasy because. Seen. him utilizes

21:58

him in the right way so these are mean extra

22:00

touches that guarantee a certain baseline.

22:03

I am in on Debo

22:05

Sanders. His touchdown totals in the wide

22:07

receiver two-year, eight of them on the

22:09

ground. I remember coming into the next season, we said, that's

22:11

just really hard to repeat. But he

22:14

had five last year. And so five is

22:16

in the cards for Debo every single year on the

22:18

ground. And so yeah, very

22:22

explosive player. He's not, he may

22:24

be drafted as a wide receiver too, but he's the kind

22:26

of player that can put up wide receiver one weeks over

22:30

a long stretch and really impact your team.

22:32

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22:34

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got cut off. Set me up again. Oh, this is

24:40

great. We had to take a quick break. Andy was

24:43

high on this player before he

24:45

had a quarterback, and now Andy

24:47

has just been talking mad junk

24:49

about Drake London. He's

24:53

out on Drake London. He's going to have no shares of

24:55

Drake London. So is that- Do you ever say sentences and

24:57

realize how little truth there is in them and then just

24:59

like wish you didn't say them? No,

25:01

that was just only the beginning part. I

25:03

still am happy I said them. You do say

25:05

sentences. Look, I didn't even know how

25:07

you can extrapolate hatred. He's

25:10

ranked nine for me. You

25:13

have him at nine. Yes. No,

25:15

I'm just speaking of the fact that- Range of

25:17

Outcomes is a question. You did bring up, and

25:19

I do think fairly the other day, that his

25:21

ADP, Drake London's fiery

25:26

group of supporters has maybe swung

25:28

the pendulum too far into superstardom

25:30

that we haven't yet seen from

25:33

Drake London. So we've got him. I've

25:35

got him at nine. Andy's got him at nine. Mike's got

25:37

him at 10. We're expecting big things for

25:40

a wide receiver who has not yet done that but

25:42

has not had the opportunity to do it. Should

25:45

he be drafted as a top 10 wide receiver

25:47

for 2024? I

25:50

think some of the points that I made, Garrett

25:52

Wilson had bad quarterback play, still put up bigger

25:54

seasons than Drake London did. Kurt

25:57

Cousins hasn't supported a wide receiver one above

25:59

wide receiver. receiver seven all

26:01

but one time. I mean like Jefferson,

26:04

yes, Jefferson is very, very, very, very,

26:06

very special. But

26:09

outside of that, it's been, you know, Thelin finished

26:11

at seven one year, but all the

26:13

years of Diggs and Thelin and Garcon and

26:15

those number ones for Kirk Cousins in the

26:17

past, you know, there was a time

26:19

we used to view Kirk Cousins more in the Derek

26:21

Carsphere of like maybe he's not

26:23

going to be able to throw enough touchdowns.

26:25

Maybe he won't have enough consistency over the

26:27

course of multiple games. I

26:30

just think that the range of outcomes for

26:32

Drake London is much wider than almost every

26:34

other name in the top 10. I think London

26:36

can finish at nine where we have them ranked. I

26:39

don't think, you know, I

26:42

wouldn't be surprised if it was 22 because

26:44

there are tons of weapons. Kyle Pitts

26:46

is a bonafide wide receiver in the

26:49

offense. They added Darnell Mooney. Bijon is

26:51

a wide receiver in the offense. So

26:54

is there a world where Drake London makes

26:56

less of an impact than people would like him to?

26:59

Yes, but it all comes down to draft costs. I loved him

27:01

before he got a quarterback because

27:04

I expected them to get somebody and

27:06

him to take a step up from wide receiver 39. That's

27:11

not an unreasonable take to say, wow, he's going to

27:13

go, you know, finish much higher

27:15

than that regardless of the change. But

27:17

now the cost is very expensive. He's drafted as the

27:19

wide receiver 10. So you're having to make, you

27:22

know, you're having to take him well

27:24

above Deebo. You're having to take him above IU. You're having

27:26

to take him above DJ Moore. Well, I

27:28

think where you take him is an interesting conversation because

27:30

usually it's right around Garrett Wilson and there is a

27:32

fair debate to be seen. Which he's at eight in

27:34

our rankings if you want to wrap them together. Yeah.

27:37

So I have Drake London one spot

27:39

ahead of Garrett Wilson. We

27:42

collectively have Garrett Wilson one spot ahead of

27:44

Drake London. That's the decision. You're

27:46

not going to get both those guys in a draft. You're going to be

27:48

staring down a draft spot and you're going to say, whose

27:51

Range of outcomes is better? Whose

27:53

ceiling is better? What Do you

27:55

believe about the two Achilles quarterbacks

27:57

coming back off of? It's.

28:00

Absurd that we have.

28:03

Such. A parallel. A

28:06

situation for both of these quarterbacks. Both

28:08

quarterbacks are old. both of them are

28:10

coming off of an achilles injury. Dow.

28:12

Different Leg: Kirk Cousins is the plant

28:15

leg. For. The Achilles Terror. It.

28:17

Like. Is. That worse. Or

28:20

at the I will that end up being

28:22

worse and in the recovery process. But.

28:24

We know that. A

28:26

great London for. All. Of

28:28

the things that have gone wrong so far. We're.

28:30

Least have. Like. We've

28:32

seen through ceiling games from him.

28:35

Where. You know you had the week against

28:37

Washington. I for one twenty five against

28:39

Tampa Bay. Ten for one seventy two.

28:42

And. Right now I'm trying to

28:44

do next a quick scour here of.

28:47

Of Gear Wilson and for how great

28:49

he is. A essentially

28:51

has like one of those types of

28:53

games in his rookie season april one,

28:55

sixty two against Minnesota where he's

28:57

been a target monsieur. He's got him

29:00

most targets through two years, basically ever.

29:02

I'm. He. Has been

29:04

the centerpiece of the offense and I do think

29:06

right now bringing in Mike Williams. that's if you

29:09

want to say what that what the difference is

29:11

because I love both these players. A,

29:13

I really debated which one am I going to

29:15

slot in person to me, it came down to

29:17

which quarterback to I think is better, right? Which.

29:20

To me, I. Think. Kurt I would

29:22

take her cousins over. This

29:24

age of Aaron Rodgers and.

29:27

I think that the competition is worse

29:29

with Mike Williams coming in for Gary

29:31

Wilson and finally having. Someone.

29:34

Else on the Fuchs he's had like. Nobody.

29:36

Else throw the ball to protect national good as a

29:38

plus for my boys because he thought high volume wider

29:41

see read in her Keenan Allen. So.

29:43

Got off of in a sealed here. So.

29:46

Yeah, I'd look it's gonna be like you said

29:48

is going to be a decision between these two

29:50

players. Mike and I both have Wilson presently ahead

29:52

of London, but not by much. Ah,

29:54

I've seen more from Wilson. That. makes

29:57

me believe in his

29:59

consistent to get open and be a go-to

30:03

guy, but look, it's gonna

30:05

be fun. Those are both weirdly

30:07

parallel situations like he said, and

30:10

Garrett Wilson has been, look, he's

30:12

coming off of his season where he's like, that was not fun.

30:14

That was the worst season of my life. That was the

30:17

worst thing to deal with. They didn't have a backup quarterback,

30:19

so he went out there kind of doing his

30:22

best knowing that his

30:24

best wasn't gonna be good enough for that offense.

30:27

I think Garrett Wilson has a higher potential to be

30:29

a top five guy personally. Is that a good discussion?

30:32

I think that's a good tiebreaker of who

30:35

has, in your opinion, the

30:37

clearest path to over-performing because

30:40

you're paying up that

30:42

you are really really hoping that this guy

30:44

at least maintains value and is a wide

30:46

receiver one, but who can make the

30:48

jump to being truly a top five at

30:51

the position and a difference maker more than

30:53

not? I think

30:55

it's gonna be difficult for fantasy players too. What

31:00

if you can spend a one

31:02

round later selection? You can

31:04

let Garrett Wilson and Drake London and all the

31:06

mysteries of Achilles and quarterbacks in age and

31:09

new companion wide receivers and you can let it

31:11

all go, and then

31:13

in the next round you can take your shot on Depot. I

31:16

mean that seems like a choice or

31:19

or Lave or DJ

31:21

Moore or something like what's

31:24

the percentage chance that Drake London

31:26

outperforms a Lave? Look,

31:29

that's tough. Yeah, it comes down to Kirk.

31:32

That's entering a range where I'm willing to

31:34

take the draft discount, spend a

31:36

higher pick on a running back, at

31:39

least with those names. I don't feel like

31:41

there's lock solid guarantees. I'm looking at ADP

31:43

and next to Garrett Wilson on

31:45

one side is Breece Hall on

31:47

the other is Tamir Gibbs next

31:49

to Drake London and you're talking

31:52

about Kyron Williams or Jonathan Taylor.

31:54

So yeah, I think

31:56

grabbing one of those... Those are no-touch wide

31:58

receivers right now. So that

32:01

range I would rather have those running backs because I

32:03

do like some of the wide

32:05

receivers that are around later.

32:07

That's excellent. Obviously we're still really

32:09

far away from August when things

32:11

will solidify but as of right

32:14

now. Well and there is a chance in the

32:16

draft that the Jets who have been

32:18

working out different wide receivers they could take a big

32:20

name. I think you're going to

32:22

start looking at New York a little bit differently if it was.

32:25

Brock Bowers, if Brock Bowers goes in does

32:27

that hurt Garrett Wilson? I

32:30

wouldn't be too freaked. No

32:33

not as a rookie. Okay. But

32:35

if it was. O'Doonze. O'Doonze. Yeah,

32:39

O'Doonze at number 10 overall.

32:42

I think that could have an impact. I think

32:44

it could happen too. But to me if it's

32:46

not one of those three guys who I see

32:48

as a true number one it'll just

32:50

be a helpful addition to the

32:53

offense. At

32:56

number seven the

32:59

unstoppable Pukinakua just

33:01

22 years old. His ADP

33:03

is wide receiver six right now. I

33:07

feel like it's probably time if I'm

33:11

being honest. We want to be true

33:14

to our psychology. I think

33:16

it's time that I

33:18

walk into the throne room, bend

33:21

the knee and offer the

33:23

crown. There you go.

33:27

I don't think it's in my nature to

33:29

do it when a

33:31

player's had one season and yet this

33:33

season was 105 receptions for

33:35

almost 1,500 yards and six touchdowns. Which

33:38

means that the only reason I don't want to do it

33:41

is because Pukinakua wasn't a first round draft pick.

33:44

That's really the truth. If he was

33:46

drafted like Jamar Chase, if

33:49

he was a captain and he has this season,

33:51

zero dot zero doubts. I

33:53

would have no problem bending the knee. What

33:57

was nice about his performance? Now

34:00

some of it was it without Cooper cup so you

34:02

can you can debate that you can say well now

34:04

let's say cup plays a Whole season maybe it's not

34:06

going to be this good This could end up being

34:09

the best season of his career, which I mean when

34:11

you've got a season this good it can Right

34:13

any NFL players best season of their career? But

34:16

when you watch the film Over

34:19

and over from week one all the way

34:21

through the middle of the season to the

34:23

last game of the year You're just like

34:26

That guy's so good. Nothing's so

34:28

tough. Nothing's gonna change does

34:31

is Matthew Stafford still the quarterback. Yep, okay

34:34

Did Aaron Donald retire? Yep. Okay, so

34:36

like they were put in positions where they

34:38

were throwing the football a lot last year now You have a

34:41

lot of work to do with a young defense that doesn't

34:44

have a linchpin in the middle of it Nothing's

34:47

gonna change for Puca. He's just say he's safe

34:49

and I need to just accept it Well, you're

34:51

not gonna get an argument for me. He's my

34:53

wide receiver for I believe that

34:55

one in your heart He is

34:57

one in my heart. I love Puca.

34:59

He is out absolutely outstanding He's talented

35:01

on every level of the field. He

35:03

could take a screen. He can get

35:05

a bomb But when he's working across

35:07

the middle, he is

35:09

tough as nails and Stafford finds him

35:12

He looks for him and you want

35:14

pieces of a McVeigh Stafford

35:16

offense. It's been good for fantasy Whenever

35:19

Stafford is healthy, there's gonna be a ton of

35:21

famous point and yet and

35:23

yet 0.7

35:25

fantasy wide receivers repeat year to year that

35:28

finish inside the top ten. So Mike if

35:30

Cooper cup plays every game What

35:33

is the percentage chance that Puca Nakua finishes outside

35:35

the top 12 be that he's one of the

35:37

what is it? 6.8 that

35:39

dropout or 6.3 the dropout if Cooper cup

35:41

plays every game the chance that Puca Nakua

35:43

is not a Wide

35:46

receiver one in dynasty or

35:48

I'm sorry in in redraft I'd

35:51

put it low because you're telling me that Puca

35:53

is playing every game. They sure do. Yeah, really

35:56

low really low odds He he too

35:59

reliable to consist Yeah, like

36:01

this with the if the

36:04

red flag is six touchdowns on a

36:07

hundred on 160 targets only getting six

36:09

Receiving touchdowns. That's that's a

36:12

number that you would hope could come up Maybe

36:15

it does. Maybe it doesn't what was like

36:17

what where was Robert Woods? What

36:20

was his highest touchdown year when

36:22

he was playing that role for probably I'm

36:24

gonna guess eight I'm trying to pull

36:26

it up real quick. We got So

36:29

five six two six

36:33

I'm gonna guess six My

36:36

point being of like maybe that role

36:39

like is he just new

36:42

New young hotness where Robert Woods in this

36:44

office, which is great. Robert Woods was always

36:47

Like really strong for fantasy never this

36:49

good, but maybe the

36:51

touchdowns just don't roll to there. So My

36:55

point in bringing that up is maybe

36:57

Puka's not someone you're drafting going I'm

36:59

getting a top Three guy if

37:01

everything breaks, right? I feel real good

37:03

about my chance of being having a top three wide receiver

37:06

probably not but The

37:08

chance that you're getting a top 12 wide receiver Is

37:12

it seems very very strong especially when

37:14

you're talking about guys like like Garrett

37:16

Wilson and and Drake London of? Just

37:19

seeing how things could go wrong so quickly Robert Woods

37:21

is a great name to bring up because you have

37:23

to remember He he had

37:25

a season where he was a top 10 wide

37:27

receiver. Yes fantasy and he's Robert

37:30

Woods good, but he's not special. You say that

37:32

actually that just depresses me like relating

37:35

about the other about the role Okay,

37:38

because Puka's way better than Robert

37:40

Woods you you watch the speed

37:43

and the And the toughness

37:45

like Robert Woods didn't have some of these Abilities

37:48

that we used to yeah, I mean huge plays

37:50

down the sideline. Yeah. Yeah Puka can do it

37:52

all I just I want

37:54

to aim higher. I would aim at cup well,

37:57

and you're and and you're going from Jared Goff

38:00

to Stafford so that that does move the needle higher

38:02

I mean we talk about oh Robert Woods had a

38:04

top ten season. Pooka already had he was a wide

38:06

receiver four last year 160 targets

38:08

as a rookie as bananas. Let's

38:11

talk about one of the players that repeated

38:13

as a top 12 wide out. AJ

38:16

Brown comes in

38:18

at six on our rankings I

38:20

don't know why maybe you can explain it to me he's

38:24

like a begrudging pick. I know why. You

38:27

know why? Yeah because after

38:29

the bye week last year he

38:32

was he finished the

38:34

season pretty poorly the last eight

38:36

games of last season which is a that's

38:38

a big chunk that's half the season he

38:40

would have been on pace for sub 1000

38:42

yards so you saw it you saw the end of

38:45

the year you saw the Eagles really

38:47

struggling as an offense you saw this team that was

38:49

whatever they were like 10 and 0 just

38:52

start collapsing falling

38:54

apart early exit out

38:56

of the playoffs nothing was clicking

38:58

that that eight game stretch here

39:00

here are his exact numbers if you

39:03

extrapolate it over a season 82

39:05

receptions meh 958 yards two

39:11

touchdowns oh I mean it's

39:13

like that that's one touchdown scored after

39:15

the week 10 bye yeah I mean it it's it

39:18

was an average of 8.3

39:20

fantasy points per game and that was over the

39:22

entire second half stretch so that's why you feel

39:24

bad will that create some blindness will that be

39:26

it make him a value do you believe in

39:29

what Jalen hurts in the and the Eagles are going

39:31

to do this year he's currently being

39:33

drafted as the wide receiver seven that's where I have

39:35

him you guys both have him at six I was

39:38

gonna say ADP does not say that it's making people

39:40

afraid he's still a very

39:42

highly drafted player and there

39:44

are obvious ways it goes wrong now the

39:46

first half of last season he

39:49

was unstoppable he set the the record for

39:51

what was it how many consecutive games over

39:53

125 yards he was at what

39:57

seven one two three six

40:01

Am I missing one? One,

40:03

two, three, four, five, six. No, you're

40:06

not. Okay, all right. Who's

40:08

it? But worth pointing

40:10

out in that stretch, Tampa

40:13

Bay, who we were

40:15

targeting their secondary, the Manders,

40:17

the Rams, the

40:19

Jets, the Dolphins, and then the Manders again.

40:21

It was a pretty

40:24

juicy run there of

40:26

games, but he still- The Jets were literally

40:28

the hardest, but he just, that was included.

40:30

He still really came through. I

40:32

believe in A.J. Brown. A.J. Brown

40:35

is just so pumped. That's

40:38

the fun digs, what he did, what he did

40:40

at the second half of last year, because

40:42

otherwise- The heat would be all

40:44

on A.J. Brown. It's on her, it's

40:46

on Smith, it's on everybody. I mean, A.J. Brown

40:49

and Puca basically had identical

40:51

numbers last year, targets, catches,

40:53

yards, touchdowns. A.J.

40:55

Brown's had double digit touchdowns

40:57

a couple of times. I have him

41:00

ranked higher, because I do think he is more of a prototypical

41:03

touchdown guy. To

41:07

me, Cooper Cuff still represents a threat to

41:10

Puca in the touchdown numbers. I

41:13

have him a little bit higher, but look, we're at

41:15

the category of players where we're not needing to tell

41:17

you, like this isn't a show to

41:19

explain that these guys are good at football. It's

41:21

just about range of outcomes and what could happen. There

41:26

was a little bit of the, is he happy in

41:28

Philadelphia? We're

41:32

going to have a new offensive coordinator. Which I

41:35

love. Which could be

41:37

okay, could be good. It

41:40

was ironically very good for CD-Lam when this

41:43

coordinator departed. Well, it was pretty good for CD-Lam

41:46

when this coordinator was there as well, this coordinator

41:48

being Kellen Moore, but- He will not tell you

41:50

his name. What you saw this

41:52

last year for the Eagles after their

41:54

Super Bowl trip, they lost their offensive

41:56

coordinator, they lost their defensive coordinator, they

41:58

tried to hire from within. in and just say,

42:01

hey, we got to the Super

42:03

Bowl. Let's keep this mojo going. And they

42:05

brought the next men up into

42:08

roles that they had never done yet

42:10

as their opportunity. And both

42:12

those coordinators failed. I mean, they just did.

42:15

They were over their heads. And so those guys got

42:17

fired, and they brought in Vic Fangio,

42:21

and Kellen Moore. So they're

42:23

taking experience, knowing commodities, saying, let's go.

42:25

And I really like that. That gives

42:27

me confidence in the Eagles offense. Always

42:30

interesting, though, in those known commodities switch

42:32

teams as much as they have. I

42:35

always find that interesting, because it's like a

42:39

little Doc Rivers situation. Yeah. I

42:41

think you've got to take everybody on

42:43

an individual situation. Like Vic Fangio, he

42:46

gets to do whatever he wants. I think he left to

42:48

take this job. Kellen Moore was searching for a head coaching

42:50

gig that he felt like he wasn't going to be able

42:52

to get when he was in Dallas.

42:55

And obviously, the clearing of the house. For

42:58

the charter. No, you can make stories in both

43:01

directions. I mean, they're all facts. You

43:04

know, yeah, sure. They're facts. I

43:07

mean, you could have stayed. They're narratives. They could have. Jim

43:09

Harbaugh could have been like, man, this guy's so good. I want to

43:11

keep him. Like, that could have happened, right? No.

43:13

Jim Harbaugh? Why not? Because he

43:16

wants to Greg Roman run the

43:18

ball. OK. All right. I'm just

43:20

saying. The offense

43:22

in Dallas got better. That's what I'm saying. It got

43:24

better without him. That's a fact. That

43:27

is also a fact. So let's move

43:29

on. Top five. Justin

43:33

Jefferson's sitting at five. Because

43:35

of you guys. Well,

43:38

you have him at seven. I know. I'm just saying he's on my

43:40

top five. Sometimes, you

43:43

know, this could go both directions. This could be dumb.

43:46

He could be the bona fide number one easily. And

43:49

so, you know. Not

43:51

easily. Not easily. Yeah, really

43:54

easily. I mean, to be

43:56

the number one wide receiver, I have like double

43:58

digit touchdowns, right? So last year, you. You've got

44:00

an Achilles injury to your quarterback and you get 100

44:03

targets in 10 games? It's 170 target pace. You

44:06

get 68 receptions per 10-74 and 5. This

44:10

would have been right

44:12

at one-ish spot last year

44:14

with not

44:17

a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 missed weeks.

44:21

Oh, everything is, Kirk Cousins

44:24

is gone. In

44:26

the games that we had, Nick

44:28

Mullins, essentially we

44:30

had a four-week stretch of him. So

44:32

it's a backup quarterback

44:34

as Sam Darnold

44:37

is at least at this point. Nick

44:40

Mullins was the QB in those four weeks. Two

44:43

weeks were sensational. Two weeks against Detroit,

44:46

which was a team that

44:48

we loved to target for the secondary and

44:51

the opportunity for huge games. In

44:53

Cincinnati and Green Bay, he was the wide receiver 26

44:55

and then he was the wide receiver Variability

44:59

will be there without consistency according

45:01

to us. But total output could

45:03

easily be number one overall. Jefferson,

45:05

I don't see a,

45:07

with Sam Darnold, I don't see a world where

45:10

Jefferson is the number one guy, but

45:12

he's just, he's so good and so special

45:15

that he's still at least in the top five. I

45:17

think he's the number one wide receiver in the

45:19

NFL. Most receiving yards in NFL history in

45:21

a season with 10 games played up to you. Just

45:23

talking fantasy. Just fantasy for 2024. That

45:27

it, and there's,

45:30

there is no one coming out of the

45:32

smoke. Like just appearing. It's either Sam Darnold

45:35

or it's a rookie quarterback that they trade up

45:37

to get. There's one quarterback that could come out

45:39

of the smoke. Say

45:42

it would not be Traland. No,

45:45

the only quarterback. The only way that Joseph Jefferson,

45:47

I think finishes 2024 as the

45:50

wide receiver one because you

45:53

have to have touchdowns there. He'll be great. He'll have

45:55

a hundred receptions. He'll have 1300 plus to

45:57

1700 yards. I just

45:59

worry about the touchdowns. would

46:02

be Kyler

46:06

Murray. Oh what a Kyler trade?

46:08

No. A Jefferson trade. Stop it.

46:10

What are you doing? I'm

46:13

just saying the Cardinals got the money.

46:15

You draft Marvin

46:17

Harrison. Give me Justin Jefferson

46:20

baby. I'm just speaking into

46:22

existence Mike. There's been rumors. There

46:24

have been rumors.

46:28

From you! No, no, no, no. I

46:31

mean I am certainly propagating

46:33

more rumor. Please trade. Get out of

46:35

here. It's not happening. No, it's not

46:37

happening. Got any more dreams? Joe

46:40

Montana at Arizona? Jerry

46:42

Rice? Okay, I

46:45

mean look, I still believe Jefferson is in

46:47

the category of easily could be number one.

46:49

Like there's only a handful of whiteouts that

46:52

could be number one overall. Jefferson is still in that

46:54

category for me. We do.

46:56

Dathan hates him. I love him. We

46:58

do bring up Larry

47:01

Fitzgerald, obviously first ballot Hall of Famer

47:05

for a long stretch, maybe the best wide receiver in the

47:07

NFL. When he lost his quarterback

47:09

in the prime of his career, he went

47:11

from being a fantasy dominator to being a

47:15

good NFL wide receiver who for fantasy

47:17

purposes was mediocre. Now Justin Jefferson's style

47:20

of play in this modern NFL, I

47:22

think he'll be better. I've

47:24

still got him at wide receiver seven. He's

47:26

great. I just worry about what the actual

47:29

tip top ceiling is because I

47:31

don't see him having more than seven touchdowns. So many

47:33

words for, you could have just said, I hate him.

47:36

That would have summed it up. That would have been the cliff

47:38

notes of the sentence that you were going to say and then

47:40

we would have been able to move on. I

47:42

do hate Sam Darnold. You're

47:45

right. Quick break back with a

47:47

player that I think will

47:49

be very hard for people to take over

47:51

Justin Jefferson, but maybe not. A

48:02

jump. A block. It's

48:05

only a serve. It's only

48:08

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48:10

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48:13

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know who's just right? Most

50:00

important: Fantasy wide receiver. And.

50:03

Even if he finishes at number

50:05

five because he is. He.

50:07

Has. Through. Boom Games.

50:10

Like. Twelve. For one

50:12

twenty four with a touchdown I

50:14

get it's in the range of

50:16

of outcomes for him. Finish the

50:18

year. For. Straight weeks where

50:20

the touched and one twelve with a score, one

50:22

of six with a score ninety and scored one

50:24

forty four and a touchdown. Meet.

50:27

He has that built into him. But.

50:29

What? Is. Very rare for

50:31

ahmed rock is to. To.

50:33

Have a week where you go. Where

50:36

was the what the heck happened arm and

50:38

rubella with a deer brown? Second half. Umar

50:40

Chase these games habit I do eat

50:42

meat just A A ceiling A from

50:45

tomorrow chases A is much higher than

50:47

a ceiling game from Almond Roth. But.

50:49

It's. That. Consistency with ceiling

50:51

games built in. I dig that

50:53

he's. Just. Might be the second

50:56

most important wide fantasy wide receiver.

50:58

Consistency. Is a huge factor. When.

51:01

You're drafting a wide receiver to be or number

51:03

one him knowing what you're going to get And

51:05

he was. In. A buyer consistency

51:07

metric. eighty eight percent of his games

51:10

the exceeded. Ten. And half. Points.

51:13

At we are add pluses I mean just

51:15

for almond raw. I am feals insulting

51:18

to be like burrow those just than a year

51:20

and a is just like all your games are

51:22

we should add poverty valve. Want to get on?

51:24

There are am I looking at his his game

51:26

log. Week. To. Technically.

51:29

He was the wide receiver. Thirty six. That's.

51:32

I face but he was six receptions for

51:34

one hundred and two yards. That's that's not

51:36

a gamer. I look at almond run a mad

51:38

about on a stable the defense. He has

51:40

one game he had one game last year.

51:43

Where. It was three for twenty one

51:45

against Chicago and I was an absolute disaster.

51:47

Part of the secret I think and why

51:49

City Lamb was so great and while I'm

51:51

on rise. So great from a fantasy consistency

51:53

standpoint. Is. These guys get moved

51:55

around and they play in the slot a ton. Fifty.

51:59

five percent For

52:02

alman, Ross St. Brown, and I believe when we looked

52:04

the other day, wasn't, wasn't CD

52:06

Lam in that same, like 60%? I

52:09

think he was like 51. Okay,

52:12

51%. So you

52:14

know, you talk about scheming out a wide receiver. If

52:17

Jamar Chase is on the outside and you

52:19

bracket him and the team's decision making can

52:22

be, hey, I can do more letting

52:24

Jamar Chase draw the defense for

52:26

a half or something to that

52:29

extent. So I

52:31

get it. You can't

52:33

argue against Dom Monroe. He has improved each and

52:35

every year. You had 17 points

52:38

per game. So it's like

52:40

as a rookie, 90 for five, then 106 for six, then

52:42

119 and 10. Maybe

52:46

he doesn't get to 10 touchdowns, but he

52:49

will just, he will be so solid and good

52:51

for your team that there's,

52:55

you can, you can find a little bit of nitro the

52:57

next round in the draft. And he was

52:59

on pace for 125 receptions. That's

53:01

just a baseline that gives you guaranteed production

53:04

every, every game. The only

53:06

guys that are anywhere near there are the

53:08

other two. It's Tyree Kill and CD

53:10

Lam last year. Well, I was going to give you

53:13

the top three here all at once and then

53:15

we can debate the differentiators. Jamar Chase comes in at

53:17

three. Number

53:19

two, CD Lam, who was last year's number one

53:21

overall and number

53:24

one Tyree Kill. And I think it

53:26

depends on scoring system. Obviously I think Tyree was number one

53:28

in some scoring systems, but Chase,

53:32

Lam, Tyree, the

53:36

difficult year was Chase. He finished at 13 and

53:39

had some games where he disappeared and, um, and

53:42

just so the T Higgins be looking at

53:44

the first 10 weeks for Jamar because Burrow

53:46

went out week 11. But

53:49

it also took several weeks for Burrow to get

53:51

going. Yeah, it did. Yeah, that's the first, the

53:53

first month of the season, Burrow wasn't himself. He

53:55

stonked. Cause he had the calf injury and training

53:57

camp. Yes, he was coming in. those

54:00

first two weeks you had Jamar

54:02

Chase with 39 and 31 yards, you know

54:04

Jamar Chase is great. You've seen

54:07

him finish as a top five wide receiver in

54:09

his rookie season. Now he's going

54:11

to have fewer target competition, you know, it

54:13

passes to go around, not even saying to

54:15

get rid of T Higgins. Tyler

54:17

Boyd is gone and, you know,

54:20

this is a team that is going to be,

54:22

you know, licking their wounds

54:24

and looking to bounce back from a really

54:26

down season due to the injury to burrow.

54:29

I love Jamar Chase, I don't have, he's

54:32

my three. I couldn't imagine taking him over the

54:34

other two guys. To me that's

54:36

a tear break. Like Tyreek and C.D.

54:38

Lamb are, they're

54:42

just unstoppable fantasy forces right now.

54:44

What's crazy is the boom games.

54:47

He had five top ten games.

54:50

He never finished once between wide receiver

54:52

11 and 26. So

54:55

you disappear. I ain't no wide receiver two. No,

54:57

he's like, I am either not here or

54:59

I am winning you your week. That's kind

55:01

of been the Jamar Chase experience at times

55:04

where he could put up 254 and three easily.

55:09

But yeah, last year it was tough. Had some,

55:11

you know, things go wrong for this team throughout the year.

55:14

C.D. Lamb on the other hand,

55:16

in the shadow of the dismissal of

55:18

Kellen Moore, in the furious

55:21

worries of Mike McCarthy being an old

55:23

head that just wanted to run

55:25

the ball. Look, that didn't happen at all.

55:29

Honestly, we said it multiple times. Last

55:32

year I kind of like what Mike McCarthy was doing

55:35

in Dallas and

55:37

135 for 1749 and 12. And

55:42

he's not, you can't scheme him out. I watched

55:44

enough football last year where it was like, sometimes

55:47

you just laugh. You're just like, it's like Tyreek.

55:50

You're just like, I don't know why, why is

55:52

he always open? Why can he throw it to him

55:54

on any play he wants to? So

55:58

you know, this was, this was. The a massive

56:00

season. This was to pick up from twenty twenty

56:02

one type a year. Is. Unbelievable

56:04

and he should be on my Guiness roster

56:07

of not for you to losers. He's remember

56:09

saying they say up right now man of

56:11

okay. If he

56:13

were on your team right now he

56:15

would not be. Oh yes he was

56:17

filtered Cfc Want my? That's disappointing that

56:20

supports you'd five a long it on

56:22

getting me to trade skill a while

56:24

for electronics. I pad. It's.

56:27

A fair point and maybe around never lived That

56:29

counts as you guys gonna remind me anytime we

56:31

get asked the question all the time like oh,

56:33

you have any moves you regret or whatever I

56:35

never think of I had to wear in the

56:38

moment but I've regretted. have you know the truth?

56:40

The right. Do. You know the truth. To.

56:42

Lot of would have been the wide receiver.

56:45

One less money you had made the day.

56:47

It's that's how fantasy world as soon as

56:49

to Ah so when you look at top

56:51

ten wide receiver fantasy seasons of all time.

56:54

Food and points per game. Number.

56:56

One. Cooper. Cop from Twenty

56:58

Twenty One. Number. Two.

57:02

Is. Sitting there isn't so this is. ah,

57:04

I guess this is organized by total fancy

57:06

points. sorry. Cooper. Couples number one Jerry

57:08

Rice and Ninety Five was under to. Randy.

57:11

Moss and Two Thousand Seven We all

57:13

remember that are you fear hold And

57:15

then Cd. Lamb. Comes.

57:17

In and before. And. Total

57:19

Fantasy points put up so probably. Now.

57:22

That I'm going to repeat that. To be fair,

57:24

Tyree comes in a number six. All time is

57:26

right there from last year while. Dow.

57:28

Is of. Those. Are

57:30

like league winning seasons?

57:33

Yeah. Wideouts pretty impressive.

57:36

So. He he was I is Champions League

57:38

a record is a champion and are dicey

57:40

league. And of Brother Jeb in

57:42

your league too, Good not him

57:44

in Fl goods I now know.

57:47

Don't care. So. Number one

57:49

is Tariq. He thirty years old

57:52

so maybe you don't care now

57:54

case he is playing with. The.

57:57

least talented court about of the three Big

58:00

the big three. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine by

58:03

me. He Will

58:05

probably be great and win you a lot of weeks

58:07

again yeah, I mean

58:10

he he's he's unstoppable and

58:13

he used to be a Giant

58:15

big play low-volume guy and we just

58:17

talked about you know he he had

58:19

the same exact reception

58:22

number that Alman Ra had and you

58:24

just don't think about him like that you think about like Alman

58:27

Ra's the slot guy this possession receiver. That's like

58:30

PPR machine That's not Tyreke

58:32

Tyreke's like way down on the other end of

58:34

the field Yeah, but he's getting the same amount

58:36

of targets and or at least

58:38

reception It's just he's he's not

58:41

a number one pick or the number two

58:43

and after Christian McCafford is not apples to

58:45

apples But it

58:47

is a counterpoint to the leaving your great

58:49

quarterbacks going to cost you Tyreke

58:52

ill great player Goes

58:54

to a situation. Nobody expected him to

58:56

be better. Mm-hmm, and he's better so

58:59

Sam Donald would be

59:01

better Sam Donald is Not

59:04

better. No, but Two

59:06

was not better than my homes. No, of course.

59:08

So so there is a world where like Target

59:11

and talent targets and talent, you

59:14

know Makes a pretty

59:16

significant difference So

59:19

I just don't it out there, you know, you want to

59:21

bring up Larry Fitts. I'm gonna bring up Tyreke moving. That's

59:23

all sure I would you know, I

59:25

would say Mike McDaniel because the

59:27

scheme is so important Yeah,

59:30

like he McDaniel. They knew

59:32

what they were doing when they Could

59:35

get him in a trade and they traded Everything

59:37

to get him and then gave him the cash.

59:40

Yeah, it's fun to watch Mike McDaniel talk about that Like

59:42

the when he found out there was a chance he could

59:44

get this guy and just knowing I

59:46

haven't seen that clip what that Represents for

59:49

the team and like how they'll do anything

59:51

like I can put that guy on my team So

59:55

yeah, there you go. There's your there's

59:57

your top ten countdown. I'll run it

59:59

back D-bo At 10 London

1:00:01

at 9 Wilson at 8 puka

1:00:03

at 7 Brown at 6 Jefferson at 5

1:00:07

Amunrod for chase at 3 lamb at 2

1:00:10

Cyriq at 1 We

1:00:14

did it next week. What are

1:00:16

we talking about? Al? What's next week's

1:00:19

agenda? I think we got running backs

1:00:21

the countdown is furiously Tuesday and Thursday.

1:00:24

That is correct You

1:00:27

know I try to Um

1:00:30

early running back rankings. Yeah, so of the

1:00:32

two-parter next week and looking forward

1:00:34

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1:00:36

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