Today on the show, former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni joins to discuss the way that the war in Gaza is being received in Israel, and the prospects for a ceasefire. Then, former Palestinian Authority foreign minister Nasser al-Kidwa discusses the state of the Israel-Hamas war, and who should govern Gaza after it ends.Next, Susan Shirk, founding chair of the 21st Century China Foundation, joins the show to discuss Xi Jinping’s recent trip to Europe and China’s foreign policy strategy. Finally, historian and author Robert Kagan comes on the show to discuss his new book, in which he argues that Trump’s brand of anti-liberalism has strong historical roots. GUESTS: Tzipi Livni (@Tzipi_Livni), Nasser al-Kidwa, Susan Shirk (@SusanShirk1), Robert Kagan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices