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hello, welcome to Fat Mascara. It's

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Fat Mascara. I'm Jen Sullivan. Jen

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Sullivan. I'm Jessica Matlin. Hi,

3:01

how's it going? I'm good.

3:04

I just lit the candle

3:06

from this cold, wintry February

3:09

day. I feel like

3:11

it's not gonna give people a little bit of shock because

3:13

I want a bit of a Marzella kick,

3:15

okay? It's kind of like

3:17

a very standard Marzella candle. It's

3:20

by the fireplace. Oh, classic.

3:23

Yeah, I know. Last time was like

3:25

winter walk. I'm telling you, I'm blazing through these

3:27

babies. Did you see me get a comment from

3:29

Harry Slapkin? Yeah. About his candle.

3:31

And people are like, well, go sniff them.

3:33

We want to see. We had a listener

3:35

tell us her thoughts on the one she

3:37

bought. Yeah, she didn't love the minty. No,

3:39

she didn't like the eucalyptus mint one. But

3:41

I'm actually doing a little road tripping to

3:43

Philly this weekend. So there's a dollar general

3:46

I know of on the way because there's not one near me

3:48

in Brooklyn. So I'm gonna pick up. And

3:50

now I'm like, do I not get the eucalyptus? I don't know which

3:52

one we're gonna get. I guess I'll smell them with it. Well, I

3:54

feel like I have this weird feeling that you can shell out for

3:56

a couple. Things,

3:58

just a hunch. Not only that,

4:00

after I saw it, there's a big size for $8.

4:03

And then the regular size is only $5. Should

4:05

I just like load up? I don't know, eight,

4:07

there's a big difference between five and eight in my mind. Yeah. Eight,

4:10

you're at 10. Five feels good. I think there might

4:12

even be a travel size. All right, whatever. I'm

4:14

gonna load up this weekend so I can

4:16

test them all. And then I'll currently be

4:18

burning those. But we're still burning the speakeasy

4:20

candle from last week, from Terry.

4:23

So good. So let's

4:26

do a little housekeeping. I'm

4:28

gonna be taking a little hiatus. I

4:30

will miss you all, Jen. And

4:32

fam, you know where to find me. At

4:35

Moda, which is my day job, I

4:37

have a new role. I'm

4:40

going to be not only the director

4:42

of beauty, but the director of beauty at home.

4:44

So I was trying to make a fun pivot

4:46

with candles. There's no fun for this for

4:48

me. I'm gonna miss you. I'm gonna

4:50

miss you. But wait, here's the joke though. This is a joke

4:53

of it all. People don't listen

4:55

to things consecutively. So they're gonna be like, she

4:58

never went anywhere. No, they're gonna be

5:00

like, why is it Jen and

5:02

these other people? But I

5:04

also am doing a couple of interviews. So it's

5:06

like, this is like a big nothing. Why are

5:08

we making a whole thing of this? This is

5:10

a big nothing. Well, because people will be. So

5:12

like our Wednesday episodes, I'll be having some guest

5:14

co-hosts come in. We'll see where we land on

5:16

that for the next couple months.

5:18

But Jess will be here for interviews here

5:20

and there, including some joint ones

5:23

that we already have planned. We have an

5:25

amazing one scheduled. But you will

5:27

be hearing her beautiful voice less frequently.

5:29

And we wanted to tell you why.

5:32

Yes, I feel like this

5:34

is a seasonal change where I

5:36

am being called to focus

5:38

on home fragrance, rugs.

5:41

I was gonna say, the whole job isn't home fragrances. I

5:43

know, I know, I know, I know. It

5:46

is important though. I was like, just order up your candles

5:48

and get back on the mic. Not

5:50

quite. Table top. I'm

5:52

really excited, but I need

5:54

to. Table top. You're helping

5:56

people tablescape. Yeah. Table top,

5:58

tablescape, candlesticks. Betting, books,

6:02

vintage, antiques, honey. Oh,

6:04

look at this merchandiser go. That's lovely.

6:07

It's exciting. I'll stop being sad.

6:09

I'll be excited for you and sad at the same time.

6:11

I can hold both emotions at once. You

6:15

contain multitudes. But I'll

6:17

be listening. You better be. I

6:20

hope you'll all be listening to you. I'm like

6:22

speechless because I'm gonna miss you.

6:24

But I mean, obviously you'll still be around somewhat.

6:27

I will be listening and I will be here in

6:29

spirit. Funny, it's like you left

6:31

on summoning this Jess's world to

6:34

everyone's world. I was thinking about you this week

6:36

because last week we were talking about how you

6:38

run through a field in your mind and

6:40

that's the beauty story you wanna tell. Did

6:43

you see, before we get into the news

6:46

here, did you see the new? Marc Jacobs'

6:48

Daisy literally dropped the campaign. It's like

6:50

you summoned it from the air.

6:52

Did you see this? I have

6:54

a thing they've been working on it more than long enough.

6:57

I didn't get a heads up. I hadn't

7:00

been working on any stories related to Marc

7:02

Jacobs or anything. And all of a sudden

7:04

this new Daisy Wild campaign, which is their

7:06

new like Daisy flanker in their fragrance, drops

7:09

and it's the entire vibe that we were talking about

7:11

from Sanzi, from the Mellon fields,

7:13

from Stella McCartney back in the

7:15

day. This is such

7:17

a fabulous aesthetic. It's

7:20

timeless. I think it's on a road trip actually. Oh, I

7:22

haven't seen it. I should actually pause

7:24

before commenting. Yeah. Well,

7:26

it's still the Daisy. The bottle still

7:28

has the Daisy. There's still that sunlit, I

7:31

don't know. It's got like a, I always

7:33

think Virgin Suicide's kind of sunlighting with the

7:35

flare and the warm yellow and seven days.

7:38

Yeah, magic hour. We're outdoors, but you're gonna

7:40

love this too because I know you love

7:43

a supermodel moment. We've got some

7:46

Nepo babies and there's some model

7:48

babies. We've got Ever

7:50

Anderson's in this campaign. She's

7:52

Mila Jovovich's daughter. My

7:54

God, one of my favorite movies ever. Imagine

7:56

how frustrating it is just for like your

7:59

average. podunk model. Yeah,

8:01

because you know what I mean? People

8:03

come with a built-in, yeah, this is

8:06

that whole nepotism story. You're

8:08

not even like how hard it's going to

8:10

be for you to actually go to all

8:12

the castings, go to all the grind

8:15

of doing the modeling, traveling,

8:17

getting to New York, getting the apartment, going

8:19

to Paris. You don't have a car driver.

8:21

You don't have a, I don't

8:23

know that these people do either, but they have at least

8:25

a name. No, I'm not saying I don't want to get

8:28

a call from Mila Jovovich, but you know what I mean?

8:30

My daughter did it all on her own. Ever as a

8:32

standalone girl. Yeah, but you know what I mean, like the

8:35

sort of comforts and

8:37

connections of many, many people. Okay,

8:39

who else is in? Well, Grace Burns, does

8:41

that last name give you a clue? Oh,

8:43

Ed Burns, which means? Christy

8:46

Turlington. Christy Turlington's daughter is in this

8:48

as well. And just because

8:50

nepotism does not rule my world and I don't want

8:52

it to rule the world, I'm just going to name the rest of

8:55

the people in it because they deserve it

8:57

too. We've got Alva Claire, Nalea

8:59

D'Abora, Marlee Guillory, Erin Kim, Sophia

9:02

Santa Marina, Stevie Sims, Lennon Serente.

9:05

Serente, I don't know. I don't know, it might be a beat.

9:07

I'm not sure. I didn't do all my homework

9:09

on their genealogy. But

9:12

it's a great campaign. I just thought it was so

9:14

funny because we sat there talking about how much we

9:16

love this type of campaign and then another one dropped.

9:19

I'm not mad at it. I'm really excited. I can't wait

9:21

to see it. I can't wait to smell it too. I

9:23

do. I do enjoy the Daisy franchises

9:25

usually. I think they're collectible as

9:28

in, yeah, I mean, anything's

9:30

collectible technically. No, but I mean, many

9:33

of them I don't think are available. Oh,

9:35

right. Limited edition kind of fronts. Yeah,

9:37

absolutely. They've done that along with,

9:39

yeah, like I think of the Escadas as

9:42

like the original collectibles. They would do like

9:44

the seasonal collectibles. I still do. Oh

9:46

my God. Yeah, so that's out. That's fun. It makes

9:48

me think of you. I

9:51

am going to take you through the news. Sadly, it's

9:53

going to be the last time we're doing the news

9:55

together for a little while, but let's get into it.

10:00

Okay, you

10:02

want to know what's so hot right now Jess? Dimple.

10:05

Pawnsole. Did he have them? No,

10:08

he might have a chin dimple. No. Yeah,

10:11

they do dimples. So hot right now. I

10:14

saw this and I was like... What did you see? What

10:16

do you think I'm even going to talk about? I saw

10:18

something with like, yeah, like

10:20

people getting a dimple and I was like,

10:22

this is so demented. This

10:25

has been brewing for a little

10:27

minute here though, because in the

10:30

fall, this tool was making the

10:32

rounds that you could use to like sort of

10:34

indent your skin. So it

10:36

looked like you had dimples, right? So

10:38

people were right there with mewing. Well

10:41

no, but it like crimped the skin almost like... Like

10:45

if you're wearing socks, this is up to me, especially

10:47

as if I got an older, like I put on a

10:49

pair of tighter socks, then I take them off and it

10:51

still looks like I'm wearing socks because it's like compressed. Do

10:53

you know what I'm talking about? Or

10:55

like a sheet wrinkle on your face. Wait, that's

10:57

the thing that happens to people when they get

10:59

older. That's like an older person thing. Well, think

11:02

about it. You have less collagen and elastin, so

11:04

that bounce back factor of your skin isn't as

11:06

good. So it's okay. Right?

11:09

Okay. I never... You haven't noticed it's

11:11

like a sheet wrinkle. No. Like if I

11:13

lay with my face pressed into a pillow, like kids will get

11:15

that too, but it disappears right away. If I have like a

11:17

sheet wrinkle on my face now, it's like, see you in two

11:19

hours, it might still be there. And

11:22

I didn't know that was something I needed to look for

11:24

now. Coming for you, Jess. I have a couple

11:26

of years on you, so it's coming for you. Anyway,

11:28

it's not healthy. It's not safe. Doctors have said

11:30

this tool is like, don't do this. You could

11:32

permanently damage the skin. Maybe cause

11:34

some hyperpigmentation. You're causing pressure. Anyway, this tool

11:37

has been around for a while, but

11:39

you know what? I was always researching this. I found

11:41

it is not the first time the dimples have been

11:43

hot and trendy. And there was a tool for this

11:45

in 1936. A

11:48

New York her name is E. Isabella

11:51

Gilbert. She invented another tool to make

11:53

a quote unquote fine set of

11:55

dimples. So that was back in 1936. If

11:59

the tool's not doing it, guess what Americans

12:01

do or people around the world? They

12:04

get surgery. That

12:06

is right. The dimpleplasty surgery

12:08

is kind of having

12:10

a boomlet right now. It is

12:12

currently, this blows my mind, a

12:15

$302 million market for

12:17

the dimpleplasty. How many people are getting

12:19

dimpleplasty surgery? Well, the thing is like,

12:21

I didn't think that this was so desirable. And it's not that

12:24

I don't like dimples. It's just I didn't think this was like

12:26

all the rage. Well, some people

12:28

have posited and I want to hear what

12:30

you think that this goes along with the

12:32

current obsession with girlhood and youth

12:35

and all of that. So dimples can only 20 to

12:37

30% of the world's population, by the

12:39

way, have dimples with two little dots on the side of your

12:41

cheeks. If you don't know what a dimple is, they can

12:43

go away as you get older. Have you noticed that?

12:45

Like a kid you knew with dimples, I have a

12:48

good family friend and he had the best dimples. And

12:50

I've seen him lately. There's no more dimples. So

12:52

he's in his fifties now, I guess.

12:55

I gotta think about who has

12:57

dimples. Oh, my

12:59

God, you see Slater. I could also remember this

13:01

is such a random name. If anybody's from Philadelphia

13:03

knows this person, Timmy Pappen. I went to elementary

13:05

school, Timothy Pappen had the best dimples. He's gonna

13:07

be like, how does that woman even remember

13:09

me if this gets back to Timmy

13:11

Pappen? But yeah, they're cute. They

13:14

imply youthfulness. So people are going to

13:16

their plastic surgeons and asking for a

13:18

little crimp in both cheeks. Dimples.

13:21

Oh my God. Yeah, we got

13:23

it. We got to stop talking about this one

13:25

feeling sick. Go on. This just gives me the

13:27

heat. This gives me like the idea of crimping

13:29

someone's face. Go on. Okay.

13:32

Well, anyway, they're on right now. The surgery

13:35

is on the rise, expected to rise all the way through the

13:37

year 2030. Just wanted to share

13:39

that. Okay. This is where I need

13:41

to do a quiz of Jess's knowledge of beauty because

13:43

I couldn't think of a time this

13:45

has happened before. But so you

13:47

know, Drew Barry Moore is a spokesperson for

13:50

Garnier. She has been for a year. She

13:52

is now on her

13:54

hair color box. So

13:57

Garnier Nutri 70, the dark natural. When

14:01

you go to the drugstore to look for your hair dye, you're

14:03

going to see Drew Barrymore's face on the actual box. Wow.

14:06

Have you remembered? I know we've had lots of

14:08

celebrity spokespeople for hair color at the drugstore, but

14:12

have they ever been on the box? Wasn't

14:15

Eva Longoria on the box? So Guy looked into

14:17

that. No, she was not on the L'Oreal box.

14:20

Heather Locklear on the box? I

14:22

didn't check that when I checked Tina

14:24

Fey. No, Tina Fey wouldn't be on

14:26

the box. I'm vaguely remembering, like, Aferia

14:28

Beyoncé? Mia Jovovich,

14:30

maybe. See, I'm not counting that, though. I

14:33

feel like if you're a model, right? So

14:36

I'm talking more about, like, no, they don't

14:38

pit the people on the box. I don't know

14:40

Heather Locklear. I

14:42

wouldn't actually put on the box. And I realize

14:44

that's a throwback for a lot of people because

14:47

I'm thinking, no, I wanted you to. I wanted

14:49

you to think about all the ads. I know

14:51

you have in your visual memory and I could

14:53

not. So I couldn't fact check this. Has this

14:55

been done before? But Heather Locklear, no. This

14:58

isn't a real time. You're not actually researching

15:00

in the moment. She's literally looking up into

15:02

her brain. She's looking off and thinking. Heather

15:04

Locklear, she was not like a model model.

15:06

She was like an actress. I think they

15:08

would have to pay them so much more

15:10

money. Yes. What about

15:13

Terri Hatcher? Do we talk about Terri Hatcher? No,

15:15

but I will keep looking back,

15:17

but I've yet to see this. And it just,

15:20

I think it shows the way that celebrities have

15:22

become so comfortable with selling product and being the

15:24

face of something that, like, as part of

15:26

her contract now, she is on the box. She

15:29

even said it frankly, like, listen, this is

15:31

my color. It's always been my shade. She

15:33

just was like might as well be on the box. But

15:36

get this, something's been brewing and

15:38

read it. There is somebody on a

15:40

hair color box. It's famous. Guess

15:42

who it is? Travis Kelsey. That's

15:45

right. Wow. This weekend. I don't know

15:47

if anybody remembers this. He was the

15:49

spokesperson for this rewind it hair and

15:51

beard color for men, which I

15:54

think is referencing like going back to their youth.

15:56

Like we're wanting it back to when you weren't

15:58

gray. Yeah. But this

16:00

was not part of when it was known that he

16:02

was signed on as one of these people. He's on

16:04

his box. That's gonna stop soon.

16:07

So I think it must have been

16:09

a signed deal maybe before, yeah, Super

16:12

Bowl this year, before a little someone

16:14

named Miss Swift got

16:17

into his light. But if you go

16:19

and see Rewind

16:21

It, shade light brown, that's

16:24

Travis Kelsey. Just a quick sidebar. I don't

16:26

watch a lot of sports, but

16:30

football is on my house a lot

16:32

during the season because

16:34

my husband watches it. And I had

16:37

no idea every commercial has

16:39

a player in it. And

16:41

I was like, this is insanity. And I was

16:44

like, is this a recent thing? And he was like,

16:46

not really. I mean, I don't know what

16:48

is recent anyway. It wasn't, we weren't like measuring it.

16:50

He was like, I think you just don't watch football.

16:53

But the endorsement deals are crazy. Okay, I'm not

16:55

saying anything new. This is not like related to

16:57

like what we're talking about. But I was just

16:59

shocked. The Rewind It thing,

17:02

I think that's so crazy and silly.

17:04

But I guess this is just what's

17:06

done, right? Yeah, I mean,

17:08

well, anybody with celebrity now, whether it's

17:10

an athlete, an actor, I

17:12

wanna say an author and a scientist, but let's be honest, they

17:15

don't have celebrity, can get a deal. Maybe

17:17

it's not silly. I don't know why I said silly. I was

17:19

just like kind of everything,

17:21

insurance, tires, jello.

17:23

It's the consumerification of our entire lives,

17:26

right? I mean, it's just, it's

17:28

kind of how it rolls, but get this. Yeah,

17:30

it's not all gonna be football players, as you

17:32

know, at Super Bowl, because remember how we were

17:34

talking about Knicks and their first debut Super

17:36

Bowl? Oh, no, we now know. This

17:40

is gonna be a good commercial because

17:42

it will be starring one Cardi B. I

17:46

saw the Instagram. I am so

17:48

excited. I love Cardi B.

17:51

I love Cardi B. I

17:53

cannot believe she hasn't had a beauty campaign before.

17:55

This is her first beauty campaign. Yeah.

17:59

She'll be fronting Duck Lips. if

18:01

she drops a track that

18:03

somehow, okay, making celebrities

18:05

do like, this is who weekly

18:07

always talks about this, how the other podcast, you know,

18:10

have you listened to who weekly podcast? They

18:12

always talk about like the celebrities that get

18:14

roped into doing like jingles and tracks and

18:16

how some of them just almost sound like

18:18

real songs. If somehow Nick's got her to do

18:20

a track for Duck Lips, it's gonna be the

18:22

new fat mascara anthem song while Jess is away

18:24

for the next couple. So I'm gonna be playing

18:27

that on repeat. I love Cardi B. Anyway,

18:29

so that's her first beauty campaign that ties into the

18:31

Super Bowl as well, which is this weekend here in

18:33

the United States. All right, wrapping

18:36

up. I don't have a science corner, but

18:38

I have an update on

18:40

a beauty caper and another beauty caper.

18:42

A caper? You love my

18:45

beauty caper. It's Detective Corner. Remember

18:48

the Moose Hair Salon in Bimbrook,

18:50

Canada? You need music for caper.

18:52

You need music for caper. What

18:54

would it be? What is caper

18:56

music? I'm picturing a tip-toeing, like

18:58

a cartoon character who's like doo-doo,

19:01

doo-doo. Maybe I'm picturing Pink Panther.

19:03

Okay, maybe Pink Panther. Wow,

19:05

that's a little old. No, a caper feels more...

19:08

No, I get that. That could be, okay, that's

19:11

a really good option. Where in the world is,

19:13

I'm also getting Cameron San Diego vibes because there's

19:15

a magnifying glass involved. No, we need something more

19:17

fleeting. Something more like it's the last 15 minutes

19:19

of the movie and it's getting crazy. Could

19:22

it be a French nouveau kind of movie? Yes, yeah,

19:24

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure you are getting

19:26

the vibe. Like speeding it up, speeding it up, speeding

19:28

it up, yeah, yeah. Just

19:31

gonna put it out there. I am not looking for this

19:33

music. You guys know how hard I work

19:35

on stock music. This one

19:37

feels like an ass. But I don't have music.

19:39

I do have an update. Okay, who remembers the

19:41

Moose hair salon? Benbrook, Canada. Let's

19:43

take you back to the summer. They

19:45

have a six foot moose in their

19:48

yard, right? It's Moose, M-O-U-S-S-E,

19:50

like the hair product is the name of

19:52

the salon. But I just think it's so

19:54

cute that they also have like a moose

19:56

on their yard. And somebody stole it. We

19:58

still don't know. It has not ever

20:01

resurfaced. However, I checked in at

20:03

Christmas time another person in the neighborhood

20:06

dropped off a different moose for them

20:08

to use as their new sort of

20:10

like mascot if you will He's

20:12

very different though. He's only like three feet tall

20:14

and he's a Christmas moose and he holds a

20:16

wreath and he's an indoor moose Not

20:18

an indoor moose. So they still have lost so

20:21

we don't have an update on that keeper But

20:23

we do have a keeper with its own conclusion.

20:25

Let me share a story with you. It's

20:27

April 2016 A

20:29

trucking company employee seems Rebecca He

20:33

was asked to pick up a tractor

20:35

trailer, what did he find inside? What

20:37

was his what do you call it cargo?

20:40

It was 24 pallets perielles

20:44

perfume No, now

20:46

i'm interested Just in for

20:48

laredo texas. So he's he's driving from

20:50

florida to texas with 24 pallets of

20:52

perielles Side notes, just guess how

20:54

much 24 pallets of perielles perfume

20:57

would Oh my god,

20:59

I I don't want to like embarrass myself in

21:01

this game Well, i'm over here saying a super

21:03

bowl adds one I was thinking

21:05

it and I wasn't going to mention it. I was

21:07

gonna that was an opportunity for a great joke I

21:09

was gonna say I don't know a hundred thousand dollars

21:12

for uh, 60 seconds Okay,

21:15

24 pallets of perielles perfume

21:17

weigh 19,000 pounds So

21:20

picture how much perfume we're talking about this

21:23

is like a like a tractor trailer full

21:25

What does this driver do? He doesn't

21:27

go to texas. Jeff. He makes

21:29

a hard left And he heads

21:31

to the miami's aid Transportation

21:34

hub where his two friends are

21:36

waiting with rider rental trucks where

21:39

they unload 22 of the

21:41

twat i don't know how many pounds that is

21:43

of pallets of perfume Into

21:45

the trucks was this really perfume?

21:48

Yes He continues on to

21:50

texas gets there delivers. They're like, where's

21:53

the perfume? Tries to

21:55

evade capture an investigation

21:57

is opened. Okay. Where was

21:59

it? the perfume, you may all wonder. This

22:01

was back in 2016. Why am I talking

22:03

about this now? They very quickly were able

22:06

to apprehend two of them. There's a third

22:08

person missing and we still don't have the

22:10

perfume. Where did it end up? It

22:13

ended up in the backyard

22:15

of a woman named Maurizia who

22:18

had it under a tarp. And

22:20

when the FBI came, because obviously they were

22:23

able to track down how this all went down,

22:25

there was also GPS tracking on the truck, she

22:27

told them it was olive oil. What?

22:30

This woman has like what now 17,000

22:32

pounds of periels perfume in her backyard

22:36

under tarps and she tried to tell

22:38

them it was olive oil. But why

22:40

does she have this? I think I'm like not

22:42

understanding. They're gonna sell it on the black market.

22:44

Yeah, yeah. But for in the meantime before they

22:47

were able to sell it and everything cooled down,

22:49

this woman's storing it for them. So now she's

22:51

involved. Right, right, right. Okay. She's like, it

22:53

wasn't until, so this was 2016, 2022,

22:57

they finally apprehended the missing guy that was

22:59

like part of this. He was 69. He

23:01

was arrested in 2022 and just last week

23:03

the whole thing has wrapped

23:08

up and he got his final sentence. He's going

23:10

to jail for 10 years. I mean that

23:12

was a big theft because think how much

23:14

that was worth. Wait, 10 years for Yeah,

23:16

we got interstate. I'm not

23:18

a lawyer but like you can't steal 19,000 pounds

23:21

of perfume and try and drive it across state

23:23

lines and think that nothing's gonna happen. Senior

23:26

citizen. I know.

23:28

See, I don't know that makes me sad. I

23:30

don't know. We were listening

23:33

to this being like, oh, hello, hello, lady.

23:35

I was just like, I'm

23:37

sure they'll get away with this and have, we're a

23:40

little bit better at their, at their perfume stealing. I

23:42

don't want anybody to feel that. I don't know.

23:44

You feel bad for them? You

23:47

know what? I'm like, I don't

23:49

know. There's something, there's more to this story. I

23:51

want to know more to this story. Well, they

23:53

were trying to make a buck. I mean, think

23:55

how much that much perfume is worth and,

23:58

you know, all. So there was a

24:00

lot of lying. It wasn't like they came clean. It took them five

24:02

years to find this guy. Well, I want

24:04

to, you know, this is like a follow the

24:07

money story. I want to know where the money's

24:09

going. Who is it supporting? What's, what's going on?

24:11

What other with any crime? I mean, let's be

24:13

honest, unless it's a crime of passion, mostly it

24:15

often comes down to money. Yeah.

24:17

So where's it going? What, who else

24:20

is tied to these three organizations, families,

24:22

maybe to their, I don't know,

24:24

they're criminals. I'm not sure they were stealing. Yeah.

24:26

I don't know. This is a story I don't

24:28

want to get involved in. Well, justice

24:31

was served. The perfume was

24:33

returned, unlike the moose and

24:36

Ben Brook, which I don't think money was at

24:38

the bottom of the moose caper. Still

24:40

think it was those kids in the white. I

24:42

think it was those kids in the white truck. Remember somebody

24:44

saw a truck driving away. Yeah. Which

24:47

didn't have GPS, unlike the

24:49

Peri-Ellis perfume heist of 2016. I

24:52

haven't heard the name Peri-Ellis in so long

24:55

and that to me was the best part

24:57

of the story. I'm so

24:59

glad we got to say Peri-Ellis like four or

25:01

five times so far. Who is buying

25:03

this 19,000 pounds? Okay. If it

25:05

was like, I think a fragrance retailer that had

25:07

mixed palettes of all their shipments to the Sephora

25:10

or whatever, but no, all Peri-Ellis. I

25:12

got to get that sent. Maybe it's really good.

25:14

Maybe he really liked, they really liked the scent.

25:16

Maybe it was worth like that lady with the

25:18

Stanley cups in her trunk. Right

25:20

after we talked about Stanley cups, by the way, guys,

25:22

with the eyewitness beauty people, there was the

25:25

eyewitness beauty people. Well, Annie and Nick.

25:28

It's like their corporation. There

25:31

was a woman arrested for like having

25:33

40 something Stanley cups

25:35

that she had stolen in her trunk that she

25:37

was trying to hide all varieties. I don't

25:40

know why criminals do what they do. I'm just here to report

25:42

the news and keep you up to

25:44

date on all of the beauty capers going

25:46

around the United States. You're welcome. I want

25:48

to know the backstory. You have some time

25:50

off. You can dig into it. Time off.

25:53

It's to be here investigative report. She'll be

25:55

back in May with. I'm

25:58

going to have the guy right next. to me I

26:01

was a 72 year old man being like so

26:03

like what happened babe what happened what brought you

26:05

to that? It's like I really like perdialis. No

26:10

anyway that is the news consider

26:12

yourself up to speed let's go raise

26:14

some wands. Let's

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You know what makes me feel less

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31:11

All right, it's time to raise a one everyone.

31:13

Jen, we got some information.

31:15

We got some feedback on

31:18

the SK two substitute.

31:20

There's no substitute Fred for

31:22

so I want to be clear. This isn't

31:24

we're not promoting dupe culture. No, one

31:27

of our listeners used your language which was

31:29

SK two for less moment. For

31:32

less moment for SK two

31:34

for less moment. She's like I have something

31:36

for the SK two for less moment. Because

31:40

we don't want to take away from the

31:42

hard work that went behind

31:44

a product. SK

31:46

two and it's to Tara. No, but there's different ways

31:48

to achieve the same goals. And

31:50

so we want to help the listener with that.

31:53

And on that note, we have Julia from

31:55

Los Angeles. Take it away. Hi, this is

31:57

Julia calling in from Los Angeles. I

32:00

don't know if you're still taking

32:02

the SK2 dupe recommendations, but I

32:05

highly recommend the Lululun

32:08

masks. I think it's

32:10

spelled L-U-L-U-L-U-N masks. They

32:13

are a company from Japan. They have a

32:15

very deep line of different kinds of masks.

32:18

You can try, but I feel

32:20

like the moist masks very closely

32:23

duplicate what you're trying to get

32:25

out of an SK2 product. So

32:28

that's my recommendation. Thanks. Bye. Okay.

32:31

I had never heard

32:33

of this brand, Lululun.

32:37

The Lululun Pure Sheet masks, you

32:39

get seven for $750. So

32:42

she took the homework very seriously. She

32:44

came in with a way lower and

32:47

sharper price point than

32:49

I did. Razor sharp. I,

32:52

however, as you remember from last week, found

32:55

what I think is the exact

32:57

active ingredient, but minus any preservatives

32:59

or extras that might irritate in

33:01

the one thing, Galactomyces ferment filtrate.

33:03

Funny, I didn't mention this last

33:06

week. As I've been using this

33:08

over the course of the week,

33:10

I looked into the brand more.

33:12

It's a Korean brand. One thing,

33:14

it means literally the one

33:16

thing in here, almost like an inky list or like

33:19

an ordinary where you just get the active day have

33:21

moved on from that a little bit. But remember, that

33:23

was like a moment in the

33:25

skincare industry. So this is the one

33:27

thing in here is the ferment filtrate,

33:29

which is basically similar to the one

33:32

that's in the SK2. I'm

33:34

going to walk back on how I was using it because I found

33:36

a new way to use it. I was, I told you

33:38

that my SK2 for less was going to be to put

33:40

on this and then put on

33:42

the Honest Beauty silicone reusable

33:45

sheet mask. But

33:47

then I was like, I don't like how this feels on

33:49

my face. I feel silly with a silicone sheet mask wrapped

33:51

around my face and around my ears. It just like you

33:53

were saying about putting something cold on your face. Thank

33:56

you. Sure. Maybe I'm not making it

33:58

inclusive and it's not going to be. as

34:00

effective as it would be if I don't care.

34:02

I'm just doing in the ethos of

34:05

one thing, I'm just doing the one thing. So

34:07

I'm glad I have the silicone sheet mask. It'll be good

34:09

for other things. If I ever went like a serum or

34:12

something to penetrate, I'm glad to have it

34:14

reusable. I don't have to pay for or make

34:16

extra trash. But this ferment

34:18

filtrate, it is so hydrating. I

34:22

haven't seen any of the brightening they talk about, but

34:25

for someone with incredibly dry skin,

34:27

like, oh, that is

34:29

good. So right now, I got mine on iHerb,

34:31

and it was $20. It

34:34

can be higher at other websites. But

34:37

I'll put a link to it in the show notes.

34:39

I'm raising a wand to it. Jess, this is my raise a

34:41

wand. That's how much I like this. I want

34:44

to try it. It's really nice. Cute package, too.

34:46

I won't say no to a face mask, but

34:48

I'm not a huge face mask person. I do

34:50

like under eye mask, though. Like a little, you know,

34:52

those I will put on while I do zoom. Like

34:54

a sheet one that you stick on, is that

34:56

what you're talking about? Yeah, sticky. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

34:58

Like a crescent moon. Okay, so

35:01

my raise a wand is

35:04

the Westman Atelier highlighting

35:06

fluid. The real name is

35:08

the liquid super loaded highlighter.

35:11

So I've been playing around with how I use

35:13

it, because it's a liquid. You squeeze it, okay?

35:16

Right. I'm sure a better makeup artist

35:18

than me knows exactly how to, Gucci Westman, her

35:20

whole thing is everything's easy. So she heard me

35:23

talking. She would say, no, you can use it

35:25

any way you want. You can tap it on

35:27

the tops of your cheekbones. Your

35:29

nose, but I'm sure that there is a

35:31

really amazing way to use it. I'm probably

35:34

not using it the right way, but

35:36

I've been like to play around with it a little bit.

35:39

I've been playing around by mixing on the back of

35:41

my hand with a little bit of foundation. And

35:43

it's been shearing out my foundation a little bit because

35:45

my skin is getting drier. It's

35:47

winter. Everyone is talking about the return

35:49

to matte. Not quite ready for that

35:51

right now. Not going

35:54

to go there so fast, but

35:56

I can't do that full on dewy look

35:58

because my skin just, it's not. doing

36:00

that. I don't know. My skin

36:02

just doesn't do that. So it's

36:05

giving a little bit of shimmer, a little, not shimmer,

36:07

a little bit of glow. Yeah, but

36:09

I can still get a little bit of coverage with

36:11

that. Does that make sense? It

36:13

itself doesn't have coverage, but mixing it with your

36:15

foundation gives you the glow plus then the coverage

36:17

of the foundation. And it comes in three different

36:20

colors. I love the Poe de Rose. It's like

36:22

a light baby pink, almost like a ballet pink,

36:25

but you can also tap

36:27

it onto the top of your cheeks and

36:29

stuff. It's just a beautiful highlighter. And it

36:31

also has like all West Minutiae products that

36:34

has skincare ingredients. So this has vitamin C,

36:36

antioxidants, ba ba ba. So you're

36:38

getting some good stuff with it too. I want that

36:40

stuff from skincare, not makeup, but I get it. I've

36:43

only used her highlighting stick. And I do really enjoy

36:45

that. Oh, try the

36:47

fluid. Yeah, I like to be targeted in

36:49

my highlighting. But if you're looking for an

36:51

all over moment, then you definitely want a

36:53

liquid highlighter rather than a stick highlighter. Yeah,

36:55

that's a good reason. We have

36:57

new homework for everyone. This is not

36:59

our homework. This is homework from the

37:01

fam. We have to help Kara. So

37:03

let's hear what Kara needs. Hi, Jess

37:06

and Jen. This is Kara calling from

37:08

Boston. Love your podcast. Listen every morning

37:10

while I do my makeup. I

37:12

need a concealer that

37:14

is going to stay all

37:17

day. I have allergies, whatnot.

37:19

I'm using tissues, stuff makeup comes off all. I

37:21

wear a full face and make it very simple.

37:23

It works. So I'm constantly reapplying.

37:26

I would love a concealer right now. I'm

37:28

using makeup forever. HD love it. I've been

37:30

using it since like 2008. It's my go

37:32

to use all their products, but I just

37:34

can't find a concealer that is going to

37:36

stay on the tip of my nose and

37:39

on my chin where I get really red. So

37:41

I would love for you guys to

37:43

suggest something or the fam, whoever would be

37:45

great. And we'll be listening. Talk

37:48

to you soon. Bye. Okay. You have your

37:50

mission, everybody. If you choose to accept it,

37:52

Kara wants a stay all day concealer for

37:54

allergy sufferers. I don't know what all day

37:57

means to Kara. I'm going to go with eight

37:59

hours. Let's give her a call. Eight hours. at least we

38:01

do that. even she's liking her nose with

38:03

a tissue. I don't know if you have

38:05

an idea of walk until she should use.

38:08

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38:15

Jesse. Look at you already! Have an answer for

38:17

can. Lead us to stay around her

38:19

nose while she's on her nose. Snow view her

38:21

like she is an allergy sufferer. You already have

38:23

read in your nose, in your chin. I get

38:26

it though. Preach. I doubt it. And

38:28

she has the foundation being make up for everything

38:30

she said. but what's the concealer and I imagined

38:32

has lot of redness as you need something with

38:34

a little coverage to cover the redness. Obviously.

38:36

You're gonna them blow your nose with the paper

38:38

tissue. you're in a white Boston concealer. So we

38:40

i think. There's. Certain lipsticks. There's lipsticks

38:43

it'll say if you block with a tissue

38:45

out of their that that's asking. Too much

38:47

of concealer. I like to go less make

38:49

out if I ever really bad and you know

38:51

I'm a sinus infection queen. Chronic signs I have

38:53

I ever see you know, get read that sucked

38:55

up inside me and my that's horrible. He.

38:57

I feel like when I have allergies release like the

39:00

tip of my nose and my chin get very very

39:02

red. I just not what I don't think you're going

39:04

to get away from around the coverage or on the

39:06

nose is this is Not going to happen. Is that

39:08

it's going to stay that long? Yeah. But

39:10

what I was I feel like every

39:13

single month someone would always else. And

39:15

Bobby Brown perfect for prevention. Because

39:17

I say those right. Her column for

39:19

a okay. Say Bobby soon as

39:21

the years ago. He. Bobby.

39:24

I've got a cold. What's. The

39:26

best make up for a cold, You

39:28

know what I mean. I have written

39:30

twenty articles with that another yes, you

39:33

know what are you today And what

39:35

did Bobby say? This is so long

39:37

as are so body is is that

39:39

man? Don't Rob. There's a cease and

39:41

desist. Bobby's. This. As as he by

39:43

the other question. Now because this is just like

39:45

a good example, I feel like it was always

39:47

less is more hydrate Hydrant hydrates you're going to

39:50

want to put like the sickest. Moisturizer

39:52

in the world. concealer for sure.

39:54

And that's where our friend needs

39:56

help. Kara Waterproof mascara rain and

39:58

I'm looking for ya! Validate? Yeah

40:00

her yes, our think about thickest. Moisturizer:

40:03

Add a comment on that. Waterproof,

40:05

Mascara Mk some kind of brightening Mrs. Will

40:07

Kitten would have been like. Definitely a thing.

40:10

Some brightening I shall have. Oh silicate not

40:12

kitten goes for yeah some of and out

40:14

our kids feel like some kind of i

40:16

swear I read this column and or wrote

40:18

it. yeah he the brightening eyeshadow because this

40:20

is what I did want to do when

40:23

I'm sick. Be totally put the yeah all

40:25

yeah your own. Seven steps? Yes,

40:27

Good guarantees. Some eyeshadow that

40:29

brightens your eyes or like maybe

40:31

it'll is right would say like

40:34

know I'm shadow or just mascara,

40:36

waterproof mascara and then I would

40:38

put a concealer underneath the eyes.

40:41

That's. Not going to budge. A couple

40:43

that I really love. Hourglass.

40:45

Because you're really good. I don't think

40:48

that moves round so much. Monica Blunder

40:50

Blunder Cover uneasy and on both for

40:52

under that one is specifically under I

40:54

formulated the blender cover you can use

40:56

anywhere or you can aka a has

40:58

like a how do I see this.

41:01

A. Grip a grip Thank. You

41:03

A grip. I. Feel like the column

41:05

I'm imagining what of and like dusted with

41:07

some settings. Our because that's the thing under

41:09

the I is More Com cave. Where is

41:11

the news of the chin or com decks

41:13

and I think it's going to require a

41:15

different kind of formula with more flex. Citizens

41:18

Not is creepy. says that a kid flexed

41:20

as you move a lot in your nose

41:22

and your dm you know I'm saying so

41:24

any of those it would like this film

41:26

forming, polymers, flexible technology like it's gotta be

41:28

concealer that you don't laying it under eye

41:30

and like letting it be it's it has

41:32

to move in order to last. The

41:34

day so tall asked. I. Don't

41:37

know. Care and organization has are putting it

41:39

off The Sam Six Horses flight line on

41:41

the tail. You know there's a makeup artist

41:43

listening. He was like i know you're talking

41:45

about this is the concealer We want to

41:47

hear it Email it's you us. Call us.

41:49

Okay, This is a will see you. On.

41:52

friday for the interview actually that says

41:54

you that's your soul interview on friday

41:56

if i am currently doing a solo

41:59

interview and Jen will see

42:01

you with a couple of surprise. Oh, yes.

42:03

Oh, I will have surprise guest co-hosts we

42:06

Starting the week after Valentine's Day. So

42:08

there'll be we'll be back that week

42:10

with all new episodes Jess

42:12

will be around for interviews. We'll be doing the news

42:14

go get your beauty sleep You

42:17

need it because you have

42:19

allergy is everyone or Android

42:21

cold and we'll be here on Friday We

42:24

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