Guest co-host Anita Bhagwandas, author of Ugly: Giving Us Back our Beauty Standards and the Substack newsletter The Powder Room, joins Jenn to talk about pretty privilege, whether influencer trips are still a smart marketing tactic, if wearing makeup while you exercise is really that bad, discontinued products, and why Anita likes to decant her makeup into vintage pill boxes. Plus, we recommend body exfoliators for last week’s guest co-host, and raise our wands to a witchy candle, an appropriately nude lip liner, and a “topper” that makes cream blush look better and last longer.

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