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thefederalist.com. Molly, how's

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it going? It's going all right.

0:59

All right. How's it going for you, David? It's

1:02

going okay. Great. I'm very

1:04

excited because it looks like this week we're going

1:06

to get another new speaker of the house possibly,

1:09

and that always gets me revved up. So,

1:13

I guess

1:15

yesterday is Wednesday, and on Tuesday,

1:22

maybe it was just... Massey,

1:27

and maybe another congressman who joined

1:31

Marjorie Taylor Greene's efforts to replace

1:33

Mike Johnson as Speaker of the

1:35

House. Do I have that right? I

1:38

think so. The

1:40

problem is... Well,

1:43

listen, I think the big problem is

1:45

that, and I agree with this critique,

1:47

is that Johnson is just falling right...doing

1:49

whatever Democrats want, especially when it comes

1:51

to the Ukrainian funding. Tying

1:54

it to Israeli funding, tying it maybe

1:56

even to border funding, which sounds exactly

1:58

like the Senate bill. that

2:01

we had what last month? Yeah,

2:05

so I think everyone understands

2:07

that Mike Johnson is in a difficult position.

2:09

It is an incredibly tiny majority for Republicans

2:12

and one that could slip away at any

2:14

moment. So I think people

2:16

get that and I think people are willing

2:18

to cut some slack because of that. But

2:20

having said that, even

2:22

with that acknowledgement, people

2:25

are surprised by how

2:27

poorly he's handling that majority

2:29

in terms of getting things that

2:31

people want. And what I mean is

2:33

I think people understand that when Democrats

2:36

control the presidency and the Senate, and

2:38

that the Senate also has a small

2:40

majority, but they basically don't because Mitch

2:43

McConnell, who's the Republican leader, pretty much

2:45

agrees with the Biden agenda on all

2:47

sorts of things, that it would be

2:49

hard to do what Americans actually want,

2:51

what Americans actually want, and what they

2:54

have conveyed repeatedly, clearly, overwhelmingly,

2:57

is that they would like the

2:59

U.S. Congress to do something about our

3:02

border. And they have even been pretty

3:04

explicit about, like, we don't want anything

3:07

else done until you get the border done. And

3:11

Johnson had kind of said some

3:13

stuff a few weeks ago that

3:15

he understood this and that the

3:17

American people would not be trifled

3:19

with on this issue that they

3:21

weren't going to be used to

3:24

ramrod, Ukraine war funding through. And

3:27

then just a few weeks later, that's precisely

3:29

what he appears to be doing. And I mean, going

3:33

to outrageous lengths to

3:36

achieve the Biden-McConnell-Ukraine

3:38

war funding agenda,

3:40

including, like, yesterday,

3:42

he said that he believed that the U.S. was

3:45

at war, that he was

3:47

a wartime leader, and that

3:49

that meant he had to screw over

3:51

the American people on what they wanted

3:53

and instead deliver Ukrainian funding. I mean,

3:55

it was a bizarre...

3:58

It gets a lot of praise, like, a... I saw

4:00

Matt Con that he was like, this guy is the

4:02

best guy ever, you know, kind of thing on

4:04

Special Report last night. But among

4:07

the American people who are not neo

4:10

cons or affiliated with the military industrial complex,

4:12

it seems to be going, it seems to

4:14

be a bit of a disaster. Well,

4:18

I will say this, I don't think you have to

4:20

be a neo con to want to support Ukraine, but

4:23

I will say this, I just as a cynical, in

4:25

a cynical political way. Johnson

4:29

could have should have separated these

4:32

bills completely. Make people

4:34

vote on the Ukrainian funding if they want.

4:36

Make people make the Democrats vote against the

4:38

Israeli funding, which they would vote against if

4:41

it wasn't tied, fused

4:43

in with the Ukrainian funding, and then have a

4:45

border bill and see what's the most important thing

4:47

for the Congress. What are they going to vote?

4:49

How are they going to vote and what's going

4:51

to happen? But instead, he's done exact he's literally

4:53

taking the strategy of the Democrats who in the

4:55

Senate hold all this together,

4:57

specifically just for Ukrainian funding, the only

4:59

thing they actually care about. He

5:02

actually is pretending to separate out the funding,

5:04

even though it's a complete pretend thing

5:07

because it will all be united

5:09

in reconciliation. And it's like

5:12

you said, it's exactly what the Senate wants. Secondly,

5:14

I don't even entirely know what the

5:16

word neo con means. But how would being

5:18

a Ukraine war supporter be

5:20

outside of that? I

5:23

think that neo cons

5:25

are interested in building

5:28

or exporting American democracy, having the US

5:30

involved in all those places. Now, if

5:32

you had you literally last week told

5:34

me that Ukrainians were basically our allies.

5:36

So if you want to send them

5:39

money through NATO or however, what are

5:41

you what? Yeah, the last

5:43

week I said Israel, Israel was our ally

5:45

to different situation than Ukraine. And you told

5:47

me, well, well, a stench of or fundamentally,

5:49

we were allies of Ukraine as well because

5:52

we had been involved in there. Oh,

5:55

I was critiquing our

5:57

foreign policy there. I don't actually.

6:00

think, in fact, what I

6:02

was trying to make clear was that the

6:04

US government had sort of created and

6:08

made Ukraine be a,

6:10

made it be a vassal state and had

6:12

been controlling its domestic operations. And

6:15

I'm saying that as a critique of what

6:17

against what we should have done, which

6:19

was understand the very fraught situation

6:22

there and keep Ukraine as

6:24

a neutral party

6:26

in between NATO and Russia. Let

6:29

me ask you this question, is wanting to fund Israel,

6:31

does that make you a neocon? No.

6:35

I'm not completely clear on the difference.

6:38

Like if you... Yeah, that's right. I'm not,

6:40

I'm not. So one thing I would say is, and

6:44

I just said, I don't love that term,

6:46

neocon, for a variety of reasons, including that I

6:48

don't find the people to be conservative at all.

6:50

So I don't like that the con is in

6:52

there because that's short for conservative. But

6:56

when you're looking at wars

6:59

that are wise to engage in, I

7:01

do understand what you're saying, that people

7:03

could legitimately be arguing that they believe, you

7:05

know, they believe

7:08

there's like some national interest in this.

7:12

But not all wars are created equal. And

7:15

the Ukrainian conflict is one where a lot

7:18

of wise people have kind of pointed

7:20

out that the... Including like

7:22

you hear this even on the floor of the

7:24

Senate, that even

7:26

with all of the funding that we've done, the like

7:28

massive amount of funding we've done for Ukraine, that

7:31

the Russians have gotten stronger in

7:34

the meantime, that there

7:36

is very little chance, there's no

7:38

chance of success really for the Ukrainians

7:40

out, you know, sort of like the fever

7:42

dreams of people who think that platitudes are

7:44

the same as winning wars.

7:47

And, you know, it's

7:50

just it's a problematic situation

7:52

there. and

8:00

how people view what's

8:02

going on. I don't think Ukrainian

8:04

funding is as unpopular as a

8:06

lot of maybe conservative, you know,

8:08

like hardcore conservative believe. But

8:11

I do think that a lot of people, even

8:13

normal people will say, why are we sending them

8:15

money when we're not even taking care of the

8:17

border? So to me, this is

8:19

a right, you're making a face. I mean,

8:22

what I'm saying is that's what the

8:24

people who are critical say. They say

8:26

that yes, the plight of the Ukrainians

8:28

is bad and in a perfect world

8:30

where money is grew on lollipop trees.

8:33

We would love to help out in every way

8:35

possible. But like, you know, that's

8:38

basically what they're saying is this

8:40

is an untenable situation. So my point is

8:42

merely that if you have a if you're

8:44

Republicans and you aren't a minority and you're

8:46

not really going to get anything done, the

8:48

only thing you can get done is to

8:51

put the Democrats in a bad position, like

8:53

symbolic votes that put them in tough spots.

8:55

Like forcing them to vote

8:57

on a vote down a border bill or

8:59

like, you know, or forcing them to vote

9:01

against Israel funding or work stuff like that.

9:03

So if he can't even get that done,

9:05

I think fundamentally we disagree that he's not

9:07

doing a good job. Now, here is my

9:10

question, unless you have something to say about

9:12

that. My question is, should

9:14

he be deposed as speaker or is that

9:16

a waste of time? I mean,

9:18

I'm I was one of the people who

9:20

did not think that the previous speaker should

9:23

have been asked it. So by

9:26

the way, I feel like that viewpoint has held up well

9:28

with time. Of course, it was just it

9:30

was just a fight over some petty nonsense. It

9:32

had no real strategic value to do that. There

9:34

was no I mean, I think that that was

9:37

kind of people didn't like him, but

9:39

that was kind of a backfilled excuse to get

9:41

rid of rid of him without any plan. And

9:43

this is where you are now. Well,

9:47

I would just say Kevin McCarthy is

9:49

not particularly

9:52

conservative ideologically, but he

9:55

handled the very small majority in

9:57

a way that understood the reality of what he was with

10:00

and he seemed to understand that he had to play well with

10:03

both the people who run DC and

10:05

the voters who got him into him

10:07

and all of his conference into power.

10:10

And that is what I don't see from Mike

10:12

Johnson. This is not the people

10:15

understand when you only narrowly control

10:17

one body in DC, you're not

10:20

going to win the world, but

10:22

they do expect a fight. And

10:25

even if it were like you were saying, if

10:27

you got out there and he was like, Hey

10:29

guys, guess what? We're not doing a single thing

10:31

until we fix the border. And if you don't

10:34

want to fix the border, that means we're not

10:36

doing a single thing until next

10:38

year. And that may be, but

10:40

this is how serious we are. We actually

10:42

care about the American people. We actually care

10:44

about national sovereignty. We actually care about, you

10:47

know, just like them in any way, shape

10:49

or form. And because of that, if

10:52

you want any thing done, you

10:54

are going to have to fix the border.

10:57

And until then, we're not doing a single other

10:59

thing. If that were his posture, he might

11:02

not get the border done, but he might. And

11:05

he would have a big win for his party.

11:08

And I don't see why

11:10

Republicans would, why Republican

11:13

voters would see the difference

11:15

between voting for a Democrat and a Republican

11:17

right now. I literally don't see the difference.

11:20

I do. Well, I mean, in

11:23

this Congress, what can you point to, like

11:25

that they impeach Mayorkas? That's

11:28

not how you view this sort of thing. If

11:30

Democrats were running it. Listen, again, I agree with

11:32

what you said before that comment. If Democrats

11:35

ran things, you'd have one bill after the

11:37

next. There's a counter history here that would

11:39

be much worse. At the very least, there

11:41

are a bulwark against other more terrible bills

11:44

that would be passed. Well, I agree with

11:46

that. Or even I actually do love the investigations that

11:48

go on. And I think it would be a disaster

11:50

for Hakeem Jeffries to be continuing

11:53

to use power to go against Americans

11:55

like the Democrats did when they held

11:57

the Congress just a few years ago.

12:00

I get all that. I'm just saying, part

12:04

of being a leader is giving

12:06

people reason to love and

12:08

support you and put

12:10

energy into keeping you in power. And

12:12

they're not really doing that for

12:15

their voters right now. I agree. I

12:18

think probably the problem with

12:20

Mike Johnson is that he's not cut out

12:23

for this kind of job to begin with,

12:25

maybe. Like, I think he's probably a good

12:27

man, probably conservative, but he probably doesn't have

12:29

the skill set to deal with what's going

12:31

on. Could he just read

12:33

the Constitution? Because when he said that

12:36

we are at war, and therefore that

12:38

explains why he is so bad, I

12:41

was like, okay, fine. Who are we at war with?

12:44

Like, I want to know, who does he

12:46

believe we are at war with? And

12:49

then when are we voting

12:51

on that? I know it's quaint to

12:53

care about the Constitution in Article I

12:55

and Section 8, but who

12:59

does he think we're at war with? I'm

13:02

actually wondering that. Do you know who he thinks

13:04

we're at war with? Yeah, he thinks we're at

13:06

war with Russia, I guess. But he's undermining the

13:09

argument that they need to fight there so we

13:12

don't have to fight. I mean, that's been the

13:14

kind of central argument of people who are saying

13:16

that we have to stop Russians on the eastern

13:20

border of Ukraine is that we won't have to fight. But if

13:22

you're saying we're already at war, Does he

13:24

believe we're at war? Actually, this is I

13:27

wasn't being silly there. Does he believe we're

13:29

at war with Russia? Or does he believe we're

13:31

at war with Iran, or

13:33

both? Or what? Like, I

13:35

literally don't know who he thinks we're at

13:38

war with. I

13:41

mean, I don't think we should be

13:43

at war with either. But Iran has

13:45

killed 600 American servicemen constantly undermines

13:47

our interest in ways that maybe Russia doesn't. I don't

13:49

know. People get mad when I say that I don't

13:51

want to be at war with anyone either of those.

13:54

Yeah, I do want to help. Okay, go

13:56

on. No, I mean, if it

13:58

is, that's why I was like, I literally

14:00

don't know which nuclear

14:02

power he believes were at war with, or

14:05

even the other. Well, what do

14:07

you think? Do you think they kind of are? Soon.

14:11

I worry that they kind of are. They're acting in

14:13

ways that seem to indicate they feel, you know, they're

14:15

not their mission. I think if they were,

14:17

there would have been a war already. I don't

14:19

think Israel can live with

14:21

their uranium nuclear power. So,

14:23

one of the things that annoys me

14:25

in foreign policy discussions is that the

14:27

neocons, sorry, but it's true. They

14:30

always claim that the person that

14:32

they want to go to war

14:34

with is some Looney Tunes crazy

14:37

person. So, you might remember with

14:39

Putin, they were like, no, he's

14:41

got terminal cancer and the treatment

14:43

is making him crazy. Or

14:46

you know, the leader of North

14:48

Korea and he's crazy pants. Saddam

14:50

Hussein was crazy pants. And

14:52

I really hate it because as much as

14:54

sometimes these people do seem

14:56

crazy or hard to understand, it's

14:59

actually incumbent upon you to understand

15:01

your enemy and deal with

15:03

the reality of whoever they are. And

15:05

by the way, Putin is not,

15:07

is clearly, clearly that CIA operation

15:10

to claim that the cancer treatments

15:12

were making him Looney Tunes was

15:14

one of their stupider operations. Having

15:17

said that, I will admit Iran scares me

15:20

on this score and I don't mean that

15:22

they're crazy. But their

15:24

particular belief system, I do think

15:26

they are friendlier with the idea

15:28

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16:40

Here's my view of what you just said. Russians

16:43

are rational actors in

16:45

my opinion. Like you might not like their

16:47

physicians but you can understand them

16:50

and they're rational in certain sense.

16:52

The Iranians are also rational but the

16:54

problem is in the sense that once

16:57

you know what their mode of theocratic, nutso

16:59

motivations are, then you can make more sense

17:01

of what they're trying to do but

17:04

that is a scary thing that they're trying to

17:06

do. Now imagine if they did have nuclear weapons

17:08

and let's say they do but just let's I'm

17:10

sorry let's say they don't. They

17:13

would have it would be impossible to retaliate. It

17:15

would be impossible to deal with them. They would

17:17

do whatever they wanted and we couldn't do anything

17:20

or the Israelis couldn't do anything because the Iranians

17:22

would just be like we have nuclear weapons and

17:24

we're willing. We are willing to go to nuclear

17:27

war. I don't think the Russians want to be

17:29

in a nuclear conflict with anyone. I'm

17:31

not so sure about the Iranian moolah. So I think

17:34

that that is one big difference but

17:37

I mean the Israeli

17:39

situation we didn't mention you know Iran

17:41

attacked Israel in a in

17:44

a serious way from its own territory for the

17:46

first time ever with

17:49

a barrage of ballistic missiles and drones and

17:51

everyone's you know coop hooing the drones but

17:53

those drones were meant to sort of mess

17:56

with the with the ability to take down

17:58

the more serious missiles. They weren't just, you

18:00

know, thrown out there symbolically. That was an

18:03

attack that was meant to kill people. So,

18:06

on that, you know, this is so

18:08

unrelated and I'm sorry, but I just

18:10

want to say I was traveling for

18:12

much of the last few weeks and

18:14

at church on Sunday morning at my

18:16

parents' church, their pastor, who's so awesome,

18:19

I love him. But during the

18:21

prayer of the church, he prayed for

18:24

Israel and Ukraine

18:27

and other war-torn countries, and

18:30

referenced the attack on

18:32

Israel from Iran. But

18:36

while traveling and just doing normal people things

18:38

that are completely outside of politics, I hadn't

18:40

heard about it until Sunday

18:43

morning. And

18:45

I had this like brief glimmer

18:47

into what life is like for a normal person,

18:50

you know, like off of Twitter. I

18:52

had no idea what was going on. Oh,

18:56

man, it was a war? Yeah.

18:59

And so I was like, but also I was taking up

19:01

and trying to get people to explain to me all day

19:03

long because I was like flying back from Colorado. So,

19:06

what exactly happened? It was very difficult to

19:08

just get a good read on what had

19:10

happened the previous day. Well,

19:13

I was

19:15

enraged, not just by the Iranian attack, which

19:17

is expected, but the attack of the American

19:20

left against Israel. Only hours

19:22

after it was attacked, we were already hearing how

19:24

Netanyahu was going to drag us into a war,

19:27

you know, or, you know, all

19:29

this kind of stuff and how America, you know.

19:32

And I just, again, I might have said this on the podcast. I just, no

19:35

American soldier has died defending Israel. I don't

19:37

think they've ever asked for American soldiers to

19:39

die unlike the Kuwaitis, the Iraqis, the Afghans,

19:42

you know, and on and on. I mean,

19:44

Israel can defend itself, but it does need

19:46

help. It's a tiny country. If you don't want

19:48

to help it, people don't want to send them

19:50

funding. That's fine. That's a position to defend it.

19:52

But the idea that they are the instigators of

19:55

this war or they are the people looking for

19:57

conflict is completely a, you know, just a matter

19:59

of time. historically incorrect and

20:01

morally incorrect. Yeah, I think, you

20:04

know, I was listening to, I was on

20:06

Fox yesterday, but I was listening to

20:08

Larry Kudlow before I was on.

20:11

And I love him. First of all, he's one of the

20:13

nicest people at Fox. And

20:15

I don't watch a ton of TV news, but if

20:18

I did, it would be like Stuart

20:20

Varney and Larry Kudlow. I

20:22

love those guys. Anyway, he

20:24

was outraged. I

20:26

think that the US

20:28

Congress was caring so much about Ukraine funding

20:30

and so little about the US border. And

20:33

I think he was outraged on multiple

20:35

levels, including just what an assault

20:38

on the American people it is.

20:41

But he kept being like, yeah, if you know

20:43

we get we've given money to Israel, if we

20:45

want to give some more fine, but like, you

20:48

know, good country. But like this idea that you're

20:51

going to spend billions upon billions

20:53

in Ukraine and not fix the border, he just

20:55

thought was like really offensive. And it was interesting

20:57

to hear someone speak so clearly about it. But

21:00

I bring it up in part out of

21:02

reference to what he was like, yeah, you

21:04

want to give money to Israel? Fine. I

21:06

think that a lot of Americans are pleased

21:08

with how that relationship has gone. Like don't

21:10

listen to the fringe left there to get

21:12

a good feel for what the average American

21:14

opinion is. Americans

21:17

have found that alliance to be a good one,

21:19

fruitful, helpful to have

21:22

an ally in the region and

21:24

not altogether that expensive. You

21:27

know what I mean?

21:29

Like it's yeah, occasionally they need some

21:31

help and mostly they take care of themselves.

21:33

And also one thing I like is the,

21:36

you know, like the whole thing that Iran

21:40

obviously is behind the whole October

21:42

7 massacre. And

21:45

the response from Israel is like pretty pinprick,

21:47

you know, they go after just some top

21:49

military leaders and there,

21:52

you know, and then Iran retaliates with

21:54

this like

21:56

barrage of rockets

21:59

and everything like that. The and Israel

22:01

does not in the can't

22:03

really afford to. Be. Like

22:05

or common after all of you, but you

22:07

can tell they're just kind of calmly figuring

22:09

out how they're going to. Respond.

22:13

We. Meet you good points there at you

22:15

know people should remember the money we give

22:17

his or listen. If you're against foreign aid,

22:19

I hear you trade if you're against foreign

22:22

aid to Israel only. I also hear what

22:24

you're saying. But

22:26

the money that we give Israel

22:28

before it's defense systems is the

22:30

most expensive item I believe. Is.

22:34

A deterrence to war to make them

22:36

strong is a deterrence to regional war,

22:38

Not some kind of aggression by Israel

22:40

has actually know. I should put it.

22:42

this with Iran is no geopolitical, normal

22:44

geopolitical problem with Israel. Other than there

22:46

are Jews their the I'm saying they

22:48

have. No, they're not actual enemies. There's

22:51

no reason for them to be fighting. And.

22:54

The other thing you mentioned is true

22:56

Israel can only fight short wars, their

22:58

small country, and and I have a

23:00

big population in sixty seven, it's seventy

23:02

three. What they do is they're attacked

23:04

basically, or there's aggression against them. They

23:06

fight back and they do very well.

23:08

And as soon as they start doing

23:10

well and gaining. The. World tells

23:12

them they have to restrain himself which is not what

23:15

the enemy would do and then they wanna like rewind

23:17

the clock to the beginning of the conflict. This

23:20

time though, Israel hasn't even had a

23:22

chance to retaliate against Iran where bronze

23:24

telling them to restrain themselves it is

23:26

insane I ask this question in a

23:28

column but if the Us had been

23:30

attacked by hundreds of missiles into aimed

23:32

at civilian areas by the way with

23:34

to joe buy of call that A

23:36

when I'm thinking. Maybe. He

23:38

would have, maybe he would have been ending.

23:40

Any normal president would call that a victory

23:42

and we would be. Retaliating.

23:45

But Israel is as not to do that. He

23:48

as highest. I get

23:50

you say. I also get that there are. Are.

23:53

Legitimate concerns. There are some people who

23:55

get a little too. Am

23:57

bellicose after something like this.

24:00

And they're like, we need to go to war with

24:02

Iran. And it's like, well, that's

24:04

not it. We like the US. Yes.

24:07

Yeah. There was, that's an idiotic thing to

24:09

say. The US does not have to go. Well, that was a lot of Republican leaders.

24:11

I know. Not a lot of people.

24:13

So I guess what I'm saying

24:15

is I understand the impulse to be like tamping

24:18

down some of the ill, poorly

24:23

thought out response. I

24:27

will sound too defensive of Joe Biden there. But like, I

24:30

think people are saying like, OK, wait

24:32

there. The goal should

24:34

you always have to think like, what's in your

24:36

interest? And I would say a wider war is

24:39

not in Israel's interest. It's not in our interest.

24:41

And so we also

24:44

not in our interest is everyone acting like

24:46

the US is no threat at all. Like

24:48

it's kind of embarrassing. All these

24:50

countries are just acting like they're not worried

24:52

about what we'll do at all. I

24:57

mean, the US, I agree the US doesn't

24:59

need to go to war with Iran. But

25:02

I will say that Iran is an aggressor

25:04

on the day. It's constantly taking American hostages.

25:06

It's constantly undermining US

25:09

interests. It killed it went about and

25:11

killed hundreds. That's why Soleimani is dead.

25:13

They kill hundreds of

25:15

American servicemen. Listen, whether we

25:18

should be in Iraq or not, that doesn't

25:20

mean Iran is it's OK for Iran to

25:22

kill Americans. I mean, something seems pretty clear

25:24

cut to me. And we don't

25:26

need to be at war with Iran. But if

25:30

Israel, not America,

25:32

if Israel doesn't do something about

25:34

this, then what's the deterrence for

25:36

Iran to try it again? I

25:38

mean, they may have just been

25:40

testing out the capacity of Israel to

25:43

defend itself like this. And

25:45

they're just putting on in Israel is bordered by

25:47

Hezbollah. I mean, and we don't want a regional

25:49

war there either for

25:52

many reasons, obviously. But anyway,

25:54

I just think this. Yeah, this president says don't

25:57

And everyone just does whatever they want because

25:59

no one. Deterred by him because

26:01

they know he's on. He's a complete

26:03

and weakling surrounded by Obama can activate.

26:05

Some people were comparing. Joe. Biden

26:08

is I told Iran?

26:11

To. The whole if you're thinking

26:13

about doing something, don't they compared

26:15

that with the various like tweets

26:17

and statements from Trump is like.

26:20

If. Iran is even thinking about doing

26:22

anything to do to hear on

26:24

the head of any Americans you

26:26

will rue the day you were

26:28

born. That's a horrible impersonation. Sorry

26:30

slicks. The The. Sometimes

26:33

it actually is good to the put a little bit of

26:35

fear in people about like we don't know what he is

26:37

gonna do if we do this. Know. But

26:39

I mean that what I know people you know

26:41

you Reagan's by popular on in bit parts of

26:43

the right but his whole. He was

26:45

not warmonger and such. He was just about to

26:48

turn strengthening the times. I think the Pets as

26:50

the good way to go for the United States

26:52

in general. I'm I'm relatively good with plans to

26:54

goes. Out a thing that how he hit

26:56

his i got something for everybody said the

26:59

Neo Cons I will. Actually, it's a kind

27:01

of funny how much the Neocons believe that

27:03

Reagan was a Neo Cons, but there's a

27:05

ton of stuff you can pick out from

27:07

his foreign policy as well. If you're a

27:09

realist or someone who is not a fan

27:11

them yeah, I mean. He was not a fan

27:14

of democracy building at all. He was a fan of

27:16

of of. Scaring. Commies basic

27:18

is what your item and he left

27:20

very rude after the attack from. Palestinians.

27:23

Mostly and. I. Can think

27:25

of another place where he was democracy building? Really? I

27:27

mean it was more about the interests of the United

27:29

States. And

27:32

so on. My hip.

27:34

I. Don't really see a neo con

27:36

much of an the are other than

27:38

being having a strong military which I

27:40

guess most people was writing americans like

27:42

a very strong. National

27:44

Defense. They just want it. Less

27:47

focused on nation building and more

27:49

focused on protecting our country. More.

27:52

Focused on bombing bad people like I

27:54

I if you never use or if

27:56

people think you will never actually used

27:59

by military. That is not a deterrent. And

28:02

correct. Now. So.

28:06

An event that anyway, that's a bad situation

28:08

there. I do wonder what Israel's going to

28:10

do. Hopefully they punish Iran. I mean you

28:12

cannot get away with something like that on

28:14

a sovereign, another sovereign nation at his I

28:16

think a step too far. Complete redline for

28:18

any free country and also as I mentioned

28:21

last week know Israeli government will survive. That

28:23

allows it to happen. It's not battalion in

28:25

some way to sort out and just and

28:27

ago and to. Get back to this country though.

28:30

The. Idea that my johnson is preparing

28:32

to spend. Billions. Of

28:34

dollars on Ukraine and do

28:36

nothing on the Us border

28:38

is. Deeply.

28:41

Alarming about the situation and the

28:43

lack of leadership. In the Republican party

28:45

right. And.

28:48

That's exactly what's about to happen. And it's

28:50

It's like ill. Never.

28:53

Never been a. Republic and never been

28:55

employed by Republican or been worse. For.

28:57

Republicans are into my dad some and

28:59

don't have. A ton of experience there, but

29:01

I feel like. This is.

29:05

The Such A bad idea. I

29:07

mean like goodness there's so many problems

29:09

with republican leaders not actually representing

29:11

republican. Voters that it could

29:13

really hurt that the security.

29:16

Of the Republic I mean is this political

29:18

angle which is if you people really didn't

29:20

like Donald Trump, what you should have done

29:23

was just deliver when after when for republicans

29:25

and they would their their love for Donald

29:27

Trump would go away but they see just

29:29

by comparison as actually this is not a

29:31

fun thing about being out in the wild.

29:34

As with a bunch of people

29:36

who are not know their their

29:38

time dazzling republican voters but not

29:41

natural Trump fans. and one of

29:43

them was saying that when he

29:45

watches Donald Trump get out there

29:47

day after day being. With.

29:49

His enemies trying to to imprison him and bankrupt

29:51

him and his family and that some people usually

29:53

it's can turn the screws on you. not when

29:56

they go after you but when they go after.

29:58

your children right that some people case But

30:00

every day, the guy gets up and just takes

30:02

it and knows that

30:05

if at any moment he would bow down to like the

30:07

regime, it would all be over. But he doesn't do it,

30:09

and every day he like gets out there and he's like,

30:12

no, I'm actually running for president again. And

30:14

that's how seriously I take this. And

30:16

they see what he's willing to do

30:19

for the country and for them. It

30:21

makes them love him. And if

30:24

by comparison you have Mitch McConnell constantly

30:26

talking crap about Republican voters and Mike

30:28

Johnson being like, I used to be

30:31

a conservative, but then I had a

30:33

conversation with the CIA, and now I

30:35

see that you can't be a conservative.

30:38

That, you know, like how easy it

30:40

was to make him get down on

30:42

his knees to the security state, you

30:44

know. It does

30:47

not create love and adoration. And

30:50

in fact, quite the opposite. So

30:53

if the Republican Party truly didn't think

30:55

it was a good thing to have

30:57

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30:59

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32:00

Eight you in there and go listen bit. You

32:02

know there's going to be a giant me. Undies

32:04

can be some terrible terrorist attack if we don't,

32:06

You know? Have. Fight you know, have Pfizer

32:08

the way it is and so on. but I don't understand

32:10

why can't come out? I'm not saying get rid of the

32:12

whole. Apparatus: Obviously we

32:14

need to defend America, protect American citizens,

32:16

but he can say we need to

32:18

reform to make sure there are fewer

32:20

abuses. You know I mean at I

32:22

just don't understand why Can't takes a

32:25

moderate, you know position on this kind

32:27

of thing. It's obviously abused, it's abused

32:29

and I don't It's Donald Trump this

32:31

time and Trump officials who you know

32:33

every single pfizer warrant. It was something

32:35

wrong with every single pfizer want that

32:37

was used in whole Russia. Get think

32:39

so? Can't we come up with some

32:41

kind of reform? and imagine how easy.

32:43

This to to to to weaponize that

32:45

against some someone who's not even in

32:47

a running for president. I mean it's mind

32:49

boggling how much power they have and

32:51

I just don't understand why. Couldn't support some

32:54

kind of rec reforming of of of

32:56

that of the size of Bell. Or.

32:59

Hill on the in yes I'll be say

33:01

a care deeply about heightened. Supply

33:04

Johnson. Pass the time at City broke

33:06

a tie bypassing the vote to give

33:09

the deep State whatever they wanted to

33:11

continue their attack on Americans and their

33:13

up and they're properly elected leaders with

33:15

the size a package but also like

33:17

why couldn't he just say okay we're

33:19

going to are going to. Pass.

33:23

H B To or whatever bill it is that

33:25

deals with border security and we're going to pass

33:27

funding for Israel and we know that you are

33:29

all gonna vote against both of those things about

33:32

where you pass them and we're going to send

33:34

them to the Senate and we're not doing a

33:36

single thing. Of. What you want. To.

33:39

Be brought up until and unless

33:41

Joe Biden signs those bills. and

33:43

then we. Can. Move on to what are

33:45

these other things and new organ if my first.

33:49

Okay, and. I'm. But

33:52

back to. This. Is

33:54

Mike Johnson Sorry. What?

33:58

He said in calling himself. Awards: speaker

34:00

was really disgraceful, I thought. And it

34:02

relates to how we don't win wars

34:04

anymore and we don't take war

34:07

and peace and our national security

34:09

seriously anymore. This

34:11

guy and this pathetic cabal of

34:14

mediocre people in Washington that he

34:16

represents is disgraceful to

34:18

the real war

34:21

heroes this country has actually had in

34:23

our history when we took national security

34:25

seriously and when we took going to

34:27

war seriously. And it is high time

34:29

that we return to the leadership of

34:31

people who respect the country citizens and

34:34

the people who volunteer in our military

34:36

to go to war when it directly

34:38

impacts our national security and when we

34:40

have the commitment of the American people

34:42

to prosecute it to victory. And that

34:44

commitment is constituted by a vote in

34:46

Congress following what

34:48

our Constitution says. These people, and Mike

34:51

Johnson is related to this, they are

34:53

disgraceful and they need to be thrown

34:55

out in public in a

34:57

free and fair election. And

35:00

I was talking to someone, actually

35:03

when Mike Johnson came out and said

35:05

he was preparing to sell out Republican

35:07

voters with this like bowing down to

35:09

Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden.

35:12

And this person just sent me

35:14

that scene from Braveheart. Do you

35:17

know where William Wallace is

35:19

like riding on the horse and hits the guy with

35:21

the mace? Yeah.

35:25

That's the picture that the person sent me. It

35:27

was like I don't think people understand how angry

35:30

it makes Americans

35:34

that the

35:36

permanent DC class is so corrupt

35:38

and so stupid and so reckless

35:40

like you want war you

35:42

I mean Mike Johnson he's like I want war

35:45

we're in war baby we're not following the Constitution

35:47

but we're at war we won't say with whom

35:49

and we won't say what the metrics for success

35:51

are but we're at war that guy is about

35:53

to get us into a real war like that

35:56

guy by not resisting what Biden

35:58

and Schumer and McConnell are doing. he's

36:00

about to get us into a real war that

36:02

he so desperately craves. Like these

36:04

are unserious people who are the

36:06

opposite of statesmen. But

36:10

the sad truth is that voters are going to re-elect

36:12

99% of these people as they

36:14

do each time. So it's up to them

36:16

to change that and if they don't, they

36:18

get what they deserve as Mencken said. I

36:20

mean, I don't really, you know,

36:23

that's one thing. But just one other thing that

36:25

you said that's interesting. I think that you have

36:27

a lot of people in DC. First of all,

36:29

no one's followed the Constitution on this since the

36:31

Iraq War. I feel like talking about

36:33

the Constitution that we all report

36:36

to follow. But I mean, every time

36:38

I mention it, I feel like I'm some kind

36:40

of like tea parties like Dave 1776 or

36:42

something like it's so jajoon to talk about

36:45

the Constitution. Like no one really cares, right?

36:47

I mean, but

36:49

I wanted to say this, you know,

36:51

there is this weird juxtaposition between all

36:53

the big war talk on

36:55

one hand, and then when there

36:57

is actually, you know, someone and

37:00

then and then kind of the weakling, you

37:02

know, non deterrence, you know what I mean?

37:04

Like, don't, don't, don't, and everyone just

37:06

does it. So you look weaker and weaker each time.

37:08

But yet, on the other hand, you have this big

37:10

talk going. I mean, no one

37:12

really do people I just don't think Iran or

37:15

Russia really fear America in any

37:17

any way. Now, I'm not saying we should be

37:19

in war with other countries, but they should respect

37:21

us and they don't. What you got

37:23

there? Show. Have you read this one?

37:25

I figured like you might just book Waging War by

37:27

David Baron. No. Oh,

37:30

it's kind of interesting. I mean, he's like a

37:32

big democrat foreign policy guy. But it's

37:34

about the battles between Congress and

37:36

presidents dealing with foreign policy from

37:39

the beginning of the country to ISIS. But

37:42

what kind of makes me sad reading this is

37:44

that we go from having conflicts to just not

37:46

having conflicts at all. Like the Constitution

37:49

is clear that war is

37:52

declared by Congress, by

37:54

Congress with votes, not with, not with leaders going

37:56

into the back rooms with the CIA and just

37:58

telling people we're at war. But like. Actually voted

38:00

and being held accountable so the American people can

38:02

weigh in on whether they want to go to

38:04

war in this place or another place. I'm

38:08

and. This

38:10

book goes through all the conflicts

38:12

that Congress had with various presence

38:14

including George Washington, you know me,

38:18

And now we just don't have those conflicts

38:21

at all. Because My Johnson says sir, Yes

38:23

sir, I'd like to follow your Foreign policy,

38:25

Joe Biden. I mean, there's no conflict.

38:28

There's. Don't boat. And.

38:30

Is a sad I mean we were

38:32

more in Serbia without on both we

38:35

were more in Libya with how to

38:37

blow we're more all over the place

38:39

without any kind of boat by congress

38:41

people just circumvent and honestly we sign

38:44

all kinds of international agreements. To.

38:46

The Executive Branch which is also

38:48

unconditional on climate change and all

38:50

different kinds of things. It's also

38:52

unconstitutional. Treaties are supposed to go

38:54

to descendants descendants abdicates. It's has

38:56

abdicated his responsibility long time ago.

38:58

I know this is a different

39:00

topic, but just the other day,

39:03

Chuck Schumer celebrating the I'm Student

39:05

Loan Forgiveness Plans at Like That's

39:07

an Executive Abuse. The. Senate

39:09

doesn't exist to be up by appendage of

39:11

the democratic party. I get that there's politics.

39:13

It's supposed also to. Defend

39:16

Separation of powers which doesn't even

39:18

to the celebrate. You know,

39:20

the executive branch doing what it does. These.

39:23

Are defenders of democracy Molly people

39:25

will need to know, celebrate and

39:27

not having power. I do

39:30

feel like it's weird eight that that? Each

39:32

year it seems that news is

39:34

speeding up and the amount of

39:36

things are happening that aren't getting

39:39

a proper response like it just

39:41

increases this unconstitutional. And

39:43

in direct violation of the Supreme

39:45

court. By. Off of

39:48

young voters death that democrats are

39:50

doing through this student. Loan.

39:53

I'm. Having. me

39:55

repay other people soon once in a It's

40:00

a real assault on our system

40:03

of government and nobody seems to care. Mike

40:06

Johnson is busy doing wartime

40:08

against an unnamed country, too

40:10

busy to actually care about

40:12

what Joe Biden is doing

40:14

in violation of

40:16

the Constitution. Of course, the media are not going to say

40:19

anything about it. It's

40:21

scary. This is a bigger attack

40:23

on the Constitution than, you know,

40:25

I mean, it is it's up there in

40:27

recent years. I mean, you're

40:30

ignoring the not only is

40:33

it obviously an executive abuse

40:35

that you're breaking contracts and

40:37

unilaterally taking people's loans and

40:39

making other people pay them,

40:41

which is just authoritarian. You're

40:43

ignoring Supreme Court. You're ignoring the Supreme Court,

40:45

which told you not to do it by

40:48

tweaking a couple of words in your plan.

40:50

Like you this way, you can just keep doing

40:52

it and go on forever. Now, obviously, just trying

40:55

to buy votes. And there's no downside for them

40:57

if you don't care about the Constitution. There's no

40:59

downside because if the Supreme Court overturns it,

41:01

they'll just go back to attacking the Supreme Court

41:03

as hating America, you know, as being this terrible

41:05

institution. If you know and

41:07

if it works, obviously, they're going to be paying off some young

41:09

people. I blame the media for

41:12

this, as I often do for many things

41:14

as well, because they keep calling it by

41:16

euphemisms like loan forgiveness, which it's not, or

41:19

cancellation, which it's not. Loans

41:22

have been given. The money has

41:24

been used. Money needs to be

41:26

repaid. Either we can print more

41:28

money and create more inflation or we can

41:31

let our kids pay for it. I

41:34

wonder if they polled and asked people, do you

41:36

think your kids should pay for someone's PhD in

41:38

journalism or gender studies or whatever crappy,

41:40

useless degree they're getting? I bet you

41:43

they would not be as gung-ho about

41:45

this plan. Right. I don't

41:47

even want to pay for PhD in

41:49

neuroscience. Yeah. For

41:51

a variety of reasons. Pay your own loans. And

41:54

why is it student loans? Why isn't it mortgages?

41:56

Why isn't it car loans? Why? Why?

42:00

people to vote for Joe Biden and for

42:02

Democrats. It's the only reason. And,

42:05

gosh, I think we're headed in a bad

42:07

direction. I mean, like Elizabeth Warren is a

42:09

social, like she's not even a socialist, just

42:11

a stateist and authoritarian. And so is

42:13

now Chuck Schumer, like to keep moving farther and

42:15

farther to the left. Thank

42:17

you. So you were mentioning mentioning

42:19

Chuck Schumer and the Supreme Court. I just have

42:22

to say that I was listening

42:24

to oral arguments in yesterday's Fisher

42:26

case. This is the one where

42:30

to go after political opponents, the

42:33

Department of Justice did something they never

42:35

do with any DC protesters. So DC

42:37

protests happen all the time throughout the

42:39

summer of 2020. We

42:41

had riots, arsonists attacks on

42:43

cops, a

42:46

besieging of the White House attacks on

42:48

federal monuments. There were the Department of

42:50

Justice did not go after the people

42:52

who did the months

42:55

long siege of the Marco Hatfield

42:57

Federal Courthouse that shut down business

42:59

there. So but

43:01

but when when January six happened, they

43:05

wanted to really destroy the lives of

43:07

anyone who was involved in just that

43:09

riot, not any of the other riots

43:11

that had hit the entire country that

43:14

previous year, just those people.

43:16

And so they came up with a theory

43:19

that had never been done before,

43:21

where you would use an obscure

43:23

provision of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act to

43:26

to ramp up the sentencing of people,

43:28

even people who had peacefully entered the

43:31

Capitol. You know, there are differences between

43:33

the people who broke windows and broke

43:35

their way in versus people who were

43:37

actually welcomed in by

43:39

cops opening doors. You know, there are differences

43:41

there, but there aren't differences when it comes

43:43

to the DOJ going after these people. And

43:46

so a lot of people were challenging

43:48

the use of this obscure Sarbanes-Oxley provision

43:51

and I and a few of them

43:53

made it to the Supreme Court. And

43:55

one of them is is the Sky Fisher. So

43:59

the court was. Trying to test

44:01

the outer limits of this theory that

44:03

the Department of Justice was using and

44:06

it was really interesting that

44:11

You know, I can't remember was like a leeto or Gorsuch

44:15

were asking different questions about when it

44:17

would be used. Oh, yeah, it was Gorsuch She

44:19

was like so could this be used if

44:22

you were interrupting a trial

44:24

and like it's like no I

44:27

can't remember. I do feel like maybe both of

44:29

them were asking along these lines No, could you

44:32

use this if you pulled a fire alarm to

44:34

delay a vote of Congress that happened just quite

44:36

recently where Jamal Bowman the

44:38

Democrat tried to delay

44:40

proceedings related to I think the last

44:43

time the Speaker chair was vacated and

44:46

Not only did he not get Sarbanes ox

44:48

lead. He got nothing He got like the

44:50

lightest slap on the wrist and no problem

44:52

for him Even though he's a member

44:54

of Congress So one of the reasons why the government

44:57

was saying that they have to use this

44:59

obscure provision is because these people really had

45:01

Intent they knew what they were doing. Oh

45:04

like Jamal Bowman. No, not him. He

45:06

might have been confused, you know and

45:10

This Elizabeth prell agar however you

45:12

say her name the solicitor for

45:14

the for the government was saying

45:17

like yeah if you let's say

45:19

you're pro-abortion protester and you interrupt

45:21

the Supreme Court proceedings to Delay

45:23

them you might not know that you don't have

45:25

a First Amendment right to do that and

45:28

I'm sitting I mean I sit there and I'm thinking

45:30

you know what I just

45:32

went to hear oral arguments They

45:35

told us like a hundred times. You don't have a

45:37

First Amendment right for outbursts and These

45:40

justices know what the rules are of their court They

45:43

know that she knows that's not true, you know, and

45:45

I started thinking about what it was like for some

45:47

of these people Imagine

45:49

that you are one of the

45:52

justices who overturned Roe v. Wade with

45:54

the Dobbs decision And you

45:56

that means that you are one of the people who

45:59

literally cannot go out to

46:01

eat dinner. Your

46:03

wife or your husband cannot go out

46:05

to eat dinner for

46:07

years, maybe forever. And

46:10

you have people who are

46:12

threatening violence against you for

46:14

years, your children. Some

46:17

of them actually come quite close

46:19

to killing your children. And you

46:21

were told by the Department of

46:23

Justice, oh, sorry, there's just

46:25

nothing we can do about it. You

46:27

have the White House and the Department

46:29

of Justice actually being like, this is

46:31

First Amendment protected activity. You have

46:34

like Merrick Garland. So let's say you're

46:37

Brett Kavanaugh. You served with Merrick Garland

46:39

for like 12 years on a court

46:41

together. And he's telling you there is

46:43

just nothing they can do to stop

46:45

your home, your wife and your children

46:48

from being under constant threat of

46:50

murder. There's just nothing they

46:52

can do. And then the next day

46:55

they're like, so would you OK this?

46:57

Oh, let's keep going. Let's

47:00

say Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has

47:02

personally called you out by name, which

47:04

he did in the case, of course,

47:06

it's in Kavanaugh, and called for violence

47:08

against you if you don't rule the

47:10

right way, according to

47:12

his belief in support of killing unborn children.

47:15

And nothing happens. Nobody charges

47:18

him with incitement once some of his followers

47:20

take him up on it. Nothing happens. And

47:23

then the government is like, yeah, would you

47:25

sign off on this like obscure use of

47:27

a provision that has never been used this

47:29

way before so we can go after our

47:31

political opponents? Because one afternoon they made us

47:34

a little bit scared for our safety. Just

47:37

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47:39

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get your podcasts. I

48:18

mean, obviously, I think that there

48:20

were people involved in January

48:22

6 who were more violent than others. And

48:24

some, you know, the idea that a bunch

48:26

of people wandering in, they were all part

48:28

of a coup d'etat to overthrow democracy and

48:30

knew it. It's just preposterous and everyone knows

48:32

it. You know, everyone knows that you can

48:34

call it 9-11 all day long. It's

48:38

just not. And

48:41

yeah, I mean, yeah, I

48:43

mean, isn't this the thread that goes through

48:45

so many of the problems today is that

48:47

there's just two different sets of rules, two

48:50

different sets of, you know, just

48:52

think about Donald Trump being

48:55

on trial for stuff that Joe Biden obviously did

48:57

as well and just one guy being led off and

48:59

the other guy having to deal with it, you

49:01

know, and this goes, you know,

49:03

this threads through so many different domestic

49:06

issues that are going on. Yeah,

49:09

Garland did not seem convinced by any of those.

49:11

Yeah, Garland did not Garland. Oh,

49:14

my gosh. He's not seem

49:16

convinced. Yeah, I because I'm working on, you

49:19

know, these books, I've been listening to a

49:21

lot of oral arguments and I'm sorry, but

49:23

I got a kick. I know some people

49:25

might you kind of heard

49:28

the New York Times are there people trying to

49:30

present Gorse, it's just being condescending when he first

49:32

came on the court. And in a way, I

49:34

get that. But it was so funny

49:36

to me when Elizabeth Prelegar, who has

49:38

this like little girl, valley girl voice,

49:41

she's, you know, she's like actually a

49:43

really good solicitor. She's very successful. People

49:45

rightly praise her. But she sounds like

49:47

a 14 year old girl, which is just

49:49

like hard for me to listen to. But

49:52

she's he also speaks very quickly and she interrupts

49:54

a lot. And you're not totally supposed

49:56

to do that. But the way that Gorse

49:59

just says If I may, you

50:01

know, he has this like very low baritone.

50:03

He's like, if I may, and it

50:05

comes off like little girl, please

50:08

stop talking, you know, or you'd like stop talking

50:10

right now. But

50:13

that was, that was a good argument. You

50:16

know, their, their case constantly is that these

50:18

people are bought off. There was a story

50:20

about Gorsuch getting a house from these lawyers

50:22

or whatever, some smear. But the

50:25

funny thing is they hate them because their

50:27

principles. Now, I don't always love what Gorsuch

50:29

does, but it is clear that he has

50:31

a judicial philosophy that he follows through almost

50:34

artistically to its end

50:37

each time. And sometimes conservatives don't like it.

50:40

And yet the smear on all these people is

50:42

that they're not principled, that they're bought. And

50:45

it is just an incredibly, it's

50:47

just disproven with almost every

50:49

case that they take.

50:52

Yeah, I hope so. Yeah,

50:55

listen, no one's perfect, but I've made the argument

50:57

often that I think it's the last functioning institution

51:00

in this country. So

51:04

talking about that insurrection issue, I

51:07

read the transcript of an interview

51:09

that Governor John

51:11

Sununu or whatever his first name is

51:13

had with George Stephanopoulos. And

51:16

he got a lot of mockery

51:18

from fellow Trump deranged people for

51:20

how he handled this because he's

51:23

endorsing Trump. And they feel like this makes

51:25

no sense. The whole interview was

51:27

it was such a it was kind

51:30

of weird to watch Sununu

51:32

sort of famously went

51:35

after Trump during the primaries. He

51:37

thought about running himself. He

51:40

endorsed Nikki Haley and he

51:42

has used like just emotional,

51:45

completely unhinged rhetoric when talking

51:47

about January 6. He

51:50

calls it an insurrection. Right. It's

51:52

just totally ridiculous. And

51:55

so George Stephanopoulos was like, here's

51:57

you a few months

51:59

ago saying that January 6 was the worst day

52:01

in the history of the world and that Donald

52:04

Trump was personally responsible for it.

52:06

And now you're endorsing him like,

52:08

you know, that seems not good.

52:11

And so the never Trump, you know, posse

52:14

were out there just like highlighting this and

52:16

saying like how awful Sununu looked for it.

52:19

I actually agree he looked awful, but like from a normal

52:21

person's perspective, which is what the

52:24

heck is wrong with him accepting

52:26

every single left wing narrative such

52:28

as that January 6 was an

52:30

insurrection. He was asked questions about

52:32

the 2020 election and he was

52:34

like, no, no, don't worry. Do not

52:36

hurt me in any way. I agree

52:38

with you that the 2020 election was

52:40

the best election in the history of the

52:43

world. I mean, that should get you kicked out

52:45

of the Republican Party. It's not

52:47

just that you are taking away

52:49

from Republicans the right

52:51

to be involved in setting policy

52:54

on how we run our elections.

52:56

You are directly aiding the

52:58

Democrat Party in what they've done to elections

53:00

when you speak that way. And

53:03

likewise, when you know that the Democrats

53:05

centerpiece of their campaign is that if

53:07

they don't get their way, democracy is

53:09

hurt. And therefore everything gets put into

53:11

this like democracy bucket and you like

53:13

go right along with it. That doesn't

53:15

make you a Republican governor. It makes

53:18

you a Democrat like Patsy.

53:21

And I think that there

53:23

are all these Republican types like

53:25

him and they look at Liz

53:27

Cheney who they were like totally

53:29

cheering on when she was running

53:32

the Republican Party destroying efforts on

53:34

January 6. And they're like, I

53:36

think we're going to take back

53:38

the party. Guys, I

53:40

think we got it. We got we're going to take it

53:42

back from those Yahoo's. And then they

53:44

saw what actually happened is that Liz

53:46

Cheney wrote herself out of political existence

53:48

beyond MSNBC roundtables. And they're

53:50

like, oh, we don't want to be Liz Cheney.

53:53

So we're going to pretend that we

53:55

actually support Republican voters and their candidates

53:57

such as Donald Trump. But

54:00

we're going to still be the same way on everything else.

54:03

And I think they really do believe

54:05

Republican voters are stupid to fall for

54:07

this. And it's also just it's no

54:09

way forward. If you give

54:12

over election security to your enemies,

54:14

you are not a leader of

54:16

your party. Full stop. Just

54:18

not. I

54:20

mean, just

54:22

from a different perspective, I think he's just

54:25

a Northeastern governor who's going to be pretty

54:27

liberal on stuff, even though I agree with

54:29

you. He didn't have to say all the

54:31

things he's done. But the thing that always

54:33

cracks me up about this sort of critique,

54:35

not yours, but the Never Trumpers, is

54:37

that this is completely normal. Every Republican,

54:40

George Bush, called Reagan's economic plan voodoo

54:42

economics, and he was the vice president

54:44

a year later. Like this, everyone

54:47

always rallies around the candidate of the party, and

54:49

they move forward. Do you think people, do you

54:51

think most Democrats think Joe Biden's the best candidate

54:53

out there or agree with him the most? No,

54:56

they rally around it, but no one makes them

54:58

take purity tests. So

55:00

there was this Politico hatchet job against

55:02

Kevin McCarthy that I read last week.

55:04

So Kevin McCarthy spoke on a few

55:06

college campuses and was very well received

55:08

without selling out his party. And so

55:10

I think it's Ben Jacobs at Politico,

55:12

the guy that I think he got

55:14

beat up by a member of Congress

55:17

a few years ago in Montana. Body

55:19

slam, yeah. He writes

55:21

this like total hatchet piece.

55:23

He's clearly frustrated that he

55:26

can't find a single student, even though

55:28

they're all liberal, to speak against Kevin

55:30

McCarthy. And one of

55:33

the things that he complains about with

55:35

Kevin McCarthy was that he

55:37

had done something nice for Donald Trump.

55:39

Like I can't remember what it was,

55:42

but it was like Donald Trump liked

55:44

a certain candy or something, and he got

55:46

that candy for him or whatever. And

55:49

he's like, this is complete sycophancy.

55:51

And it's just like

55:53

what you were just saying. How

55:56

is it that when, like, sorry, doing a nice thing

55:58

for a president is a good thing. a pretty

56:00

common thing like throughout all

56:02

space and time doing nice things for

56:05

your leader, right? But

56:07

when Kevin McCarthy does it for Donald

56:09

Trump, that means that he's corrupted and

56:11

immoral. And then the other

56:14

thing was that Ben Jacobs was upset about

56:16

is that some of the lines that he

56:18

used at Georgetown, he also used at Harvard

56:20

or wherever the next school was. I'm

56:23

sorry, if you are a political

56:25

journalist with more than a single

56:28

day experience and you are

56:30

writing that a politician has set

56:32

a line more than once as

56:35

if that's newsworthy, like just leave

56:37

the profession, you

56:39

know, it's a busy thing

56:41

over and over again forever. That's

56:45

funny. Here's another thing that just quickly

56:47

like if you here's

56:49

what happened with Sunun today, ask them, listen, in the end,

56:51

are you gonna vote for Donald Trump or whatever? You know,

56:54

let's say you don't like Donald Trump. But the other

56:56

choice is just

56:58

a disaster on the economy, selling out

57:01

our allies, just weak,

57:04

feckless, you know, disaster. And I have

57:07

to make a choice. And you're asking

57:09

me what my choice is. It's not

57:11

going to be difficult for a Republican to say Donald

57:14

Trump anymore. Actually, the question was even

57:16

worse than that. It was asked

57:18

by George Stephanopoulos, a man who

57:20

worked and became someone because he

57:22

worked for Bill Clinton. And

57:25

that's where he made his name, Bill Clinton,

57:28

the rapist, Bill Clinton,

57:30

world famous rapist. Yes. Bill

57:32

Clinton is

57:34

asking, you know, this is George

57:36

Stephanopoulos also did this thing where he falsely

57:38

accused Donald Trump of rape in that interview

57:40

with Nancy Mace, where she cleaned his clock.

57:43

And then here, his question to Sunun was

57:45

like, wait a minute, you're

57:47

going to support Donald Trump, even

57:51

if he's convicted.

57:56

And that was like the that was the whole thing

57:58

was like, even if he's convicted. As

58:01

if like a conviction in

58:04

one of the current Democrat show

58:07

trials would in any way change

58:09

anything at all. Like a

58:11

conviction is going to happen in at least

58:13

one of the trials, maybe all of them.

58:16

That's the point. The point of the

58:18

show trials is to secure a quick and

58:20

easy conviction. The idea that you would support

58:22

Donald Trump while he's going through a show

58:25

trial, but not at the conclusion of it,

58:27

like that's not a legitimate

58:29

journalistic question. Nobody,

58:32

nobody with integrity, thanks for instance, that the

58:34

Alvin Bragg case that's going on in New

58:36

York right now is legitimate. Nobody,

58:39

nobody, even far left wing

58:41

MSNBC people when the indictment

58:43

came out were acknowledging that

58:45

it was complete and utter

58:47

horse manure. Like even the

58:50

most crazed partisans. The

58:52

idea that when

58:54

Alvin Bragg succeeds in his show

58:56

trial in New York City, which

58:59

he will that that would somehow

59:01

change things is absurd

59:04

and it should be treated as absurd. Does,

59:08

do any, that's

59:11

just if Donald Trump is convicted in

59:13

that trial, it was just a fine, right? When,

59:15

when, when it's just a fine. I don't

59:17

know. I mean, the whole point

59:19

of Navalny-ing your political opponent is to kill

59:21

them. So I don't know if it's just

59:24

going to be a fine or a prison

59:26

time or jail sentence or I

59:30

have no idea, but like, that's not the point. The

59:32

point is to kill your political opponent, which is what

59:34

the show trials are all about. So but

59:37

like people, people

59:40

clearly don't view these charges as legitimate.

59:42

I think we live in a country,

59:44

sad to say, where if you're

59:47

charged with a crime, most people think that means

59:49

you're guilty of the crime, not like technically guilty,

59:51

but like in that informal sense,

59:53

like, oh, he was charged with murder.

59:55

He's a murderer, you know, that's

1:00:00

not true in the case of the of

1:00:02

the charges against Donald Trump from his Democrat

1:00:04

opponents, whether it's the Biden DOJ

1:00:08

or Alvin Bragg or Letitia James

1:00:10

or Fonny Willis. These are the

1:00:14

the opportunity to take these things

1:00:16

seriously really occurred at the point

1:00:18

of indictment and judging

1:00:21

by the polls which show which would show

1:00:23

in a in a sort of free and

1:00:26

fair legitimate like running election

1:00:28

a 1980 style

1:00:30

landslide clearly the

1:00:32

American people don't view this as legitimate

1:00:34

even the people who love what's happening

1:00:37

love it for for the Navalny

1:00:39

reasons like we don't like this guy we want him

1:00:41

dead Not because they actually

1:00:43

think that Donald Trump broke any

1:00:45

law when he paid a non-disclosure agreement They

1:00:48

do not believe that nobody thinks that Literally

1:00:51

nobody that Bragg jury like

1:00:53

if you get on that jury You're

1:00:56

either politically motivated or you're the one of

1:00:58

the dumbest people on earth because literally all

1:01:00

you have to say is that you can't

1:01:02

you can't Be an

1:01:04

unbiased juror, right? Because everyone knows who

1:01:06

Donald Trump is in the world One

1:01:09

jury said he was a fan of the barwits

1:01:11

report and they tried to get him off the

1:01:14

jury and they couldn't He should

1:01:16

be like Ejected from you know,

1:01:19

like society. Yeah, exactly I

1:01:22

mean, you know, so yeah, he's not going

1:01:24

to listen. He's not going to get a

1:01:26

fair trial there because jury systems are ridiculous

1:01:28

Especially when there's a political angle to it

1:01:30

and politically motivated All

1:01:33

right. Well, i'm sure we'll have more on

1:01:35

that trial starting Soon,

1:01:37

right? I mean the jury selections now By

1:01:42

the way, do you think it's going to help Donald Trump or

1:01:44

hurt Donald Trump that the judge in that

1:01:46

trial Says that he can't go

1:01:48

to his son's graduation I

1:01:51

think that's probably Hurt but I I

1:01:54

think that that's already all baked in I think

1:01:56

all the people who feel like Donald Trump is

1:01:58

the target of you know Lawfare and

1:02:00

all that already are big things. Yeah. I

1:02:02

wonder, David, like, let's say you're just like one of these,

1:02:05

like, um, let's say you're Bill

1:02:07

and Susan Crystal or whatever, you know, your

1:02:09

people who are like completely deranged by Trump,

1:02:12

you support the women's March, you wear

1:02:14

a vagina hat on your head, you know, like

1:02:16

all that kind of stuff. And

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you are, you're, you're cheering

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on all the

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law fair against Donald Trump. And they say, we're

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not going to let him go to his son's

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graduation. Are

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you so removed from basic

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decency that you're like,

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yeah, or do you go, am I

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the baddie? I think I'm in the baddie. I feel like I'm

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the baddie. I don't think so. I don't think so.

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I think that they think of Trump as Hitler or

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worse in some instances. So no. So like, you know,

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if you ask me, would you go back and shoot

1:02:47

baby Hitler in the face? I'd be like, yeah, I'd

1:02:49

shoot him with the Magnum right in the face. I

1:02:51

think they would do that with Donald Trump. So I

1:02:53

think not going to a graduation, it's not going to

1:02:55

really affect their view of it. I think they just

1:02:57

think he deserves to be punished. I think they view

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him as Hitler worse than Hitler.

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I mean, you see, I, I've,

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I'm going to catalog this in my forthcoming book.

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I mean, there are column after column, what people

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say he's worse than Hitler in

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major, major publications. So

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no, I don't think, I don't think Bill Crystal is going

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to care. Um, that's

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just my view. Let's talk

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about, let's talk about something

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more enlightening. Culture.

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I actually did something. I actually watched something. I

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did two things. Um, I'll start. I

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don't know if you, I think maybe you don't have a

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lot. You were very busy, right? So

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I, uh, I watched this show called fallout

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on Amazon, which is based on a

1:03:46

video game, which is extremely popular. Hasn't

1:03:48

been since I believe the late nineties. Have

1:03:51

you ever, are you a gamer? Have you ever played in

1:03:53

any way, shape or form? Have you ever played a video

1:03:55

game? Like, did you have a television or a car or

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a. That's

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what I had. Oh me too. I wanted Atari

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and my dad Got to get like

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something better for me and he got in television.

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It was still okay. It was okay Yeah,

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I love video games. I I try

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not to try it's very addictive for me So I

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try not to play them because it takes up too

1:04:16

much of my time But anyway, I've never played Fallout.

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I love this show. I'm so

1:04:21

happy. I'm watching it. I expected it to

1:04:23

be terrible Walton Goggins

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is in it one of the from justified

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Such a huge fan. I just think it's a smart show.

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It's kind of funny. It is violent Okay

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Yeah, I haven't I haven't watched anything

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but I did go bowling am I?

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My cousin Garth died we talked about

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it and the funeral was in Colorado

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last week by the way excellent funeral

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my cousin Garth was larger than large

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personality and Had

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a lot of friends. There were several hundred people,

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you know many hundreds of people at his funeral

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and it

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was a beautiful service the sermon

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was so Christ centered and and

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comforting and Beautiful

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hymns and then you know, there's the

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meal afterward people shared stories and the

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stories were really funny and everything But

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we like my cousin his

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sister organized a little Bowling

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outing for different people who were there. I

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Am a horrible bowler. What you

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roll. What's the score? Not

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good. Although like also, I don't

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know the terminology at all So like my

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first two balls were gutter balls, you know

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But then like by the six or seventh

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frame I got I had a

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gutter ball in the first roll and then I got

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all of the all ten of the things right?

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Yeah, yeah So but I didn't know the names for it

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And so I was like explaining to my brother was like I

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got all ten of the things and he's like that's called a

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strike No, that's not

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called a strike, that's called a spare. A

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spare is if you hit like one down and then

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you hit the nine others. But if you get all

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ten... I had a gutter ball and then I got all

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ten. Oh, is that still a spare? Okay.

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And then... That is a spare, right? But

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then the next frame, I did get the strike. I

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got all ten on my first one, which is

1:06:21

very exciting. But then I think

1:06:23

I got tired and it just degenerated from there.

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But there is something very

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fun. I was talking to my cousin, my

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dad's cousin Tina and I was asking her

1:06:32

some question about the rules and she sounded

1:06:34

like that guy from Batman.

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You know, I was... I just

1:06:38

didn't know how something went or what the scoring

1:06:41

was and she was like, I was formed

1:06:43

in bowling alleys. Bowling

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alleys raised me like I know this

1:06:47

and she's so good. She was like

1:06:49

such an amazing bowler. So

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that was fun and it did seem like bowling would

1:06:54

be something I would like to do more of. Oh

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yeah, I grew up with a lot of bowling. I liked it. I

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haven't gone in a while. They sort of made the

1:07:02

bowling alleys like discos now, like there's music and lights.

1:07:04

I don't know if they're all like that, but I

1:07:07

don't enjoy that at all. So this was certainly

1:07:09

nicer than the bowling alley I'd been to

1:07:11

in high school, but it wasn't so nice

1:07:13

that it was super expensive or super clean.

1:07:15

You know what I mean? It was still

1:07:17

like a bowling alley and the dude next

1:07:19

to me was so good. I was like,

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I bet he's done one of those like

1:07:23

bowling shows. You know, he was just powerful

1:07:26

and had a great form and it was so

1:07:28

much. Anyway, it was fun. And

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it also made me wish that I lived near my family so

1:07:32

I could do silly things like bowling all the

1:07:34

time. Yeah. Yeah.

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All right. Well, that's a little

1:07:40

of a downer note and no, you gotta always end it

1:07:42

on the off note. I also went to a record

1:07:44

store and I got some records. I

1:07:46

got a Dionne Warwick Greatest Hits for $3.

1:07:49

I mean, that's what it's worth. I also,

1:07:51

I don't know why, but I got a

1:07:53

couple of Cheech and Chong albums and they

1:07:55

hold up pretty well. I

1:07:58

don't know why I like Cheech and Chong albums. I'm not a

1:08:01

stoner, but I think it's like growing up

1:08:03

in California and Colorado, they would play a

1:08:06

lot of the bits on the radio and

1:08:08

they just make me laugh despite

1:08:11

my differences. So. I

1:08:14

mean, I've seen, I saw all their movies

1:08:16

because that's when I was alive. I

1:08:19

never really totally got into it. So maybe

1:08:21

I'll give it a shot. I

1:08:25

think I'm going to make a donation. Okay.

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