0:05

yeah , actually when edgar was on the episode , we

0:07

were talking that we

0:10

only see the w's on

0:12

social media . Yeah , we only see like

0:14

people with six packs

0:16

or like physical fitness or like

0:18

maybe you see like a

0:20

little reel or a video of them doing a few

0:22

reps at a machine , right , but like to

0:25

actually like grind on diet

0:28

and exercise is it's pretty

0:30

much like seven days a week . Like , granted

0:33

what you were saying in the 80 , 20 rule , it's like

0:35

80% of the time you can

0:37

eat good . And

0:39

then the other 20% , you could just say fuck it

0:41

. You know , and I

0:43

think that's the same with like working out

0:45

too . I mean you can work out like five days a week

0:47

and be off the other two . You

0:50

know , I think most

0:52

of the people that voted on the

0:54

Instagram post I did when I asked

0:56

about topics and episodes . They asked for

0:58

diet and exercise and I feel like they were looking

1:01

for not like

1:03

us to lay out

1:05

a fucking plan for them .

1:07

Right , you know , we're not personal trainers or nutritionists

1:09

or shit like that we're not certified , yeah

1:11

, no , but we Just to like

1:13

, kind of like share some

1:16

knowledge , spread some tips of just

1:18

what that

1:20

journey has looked like for us , so to speak .

1:22

Right , right , Okay , I mean I

1:24

can't say that I'm perfect . You

1:27

know , there's some weeks that

1:29

I only really work

1:31

out twice a week , right , whether

1:33

I'm just , you know , feeling down or whatnot

1:35

, I still deal with like mental health issues

1:37

and shit like that . But

1:40

then the following week I'll hit it five

1:42

, six days a week . You know , as

1:44

long as you , as long

1:46

as you can . If

1:49

you have an off week , that's fine , right , get back to it the next

1:51

week . Yeah , uh , with the eating

1:53

thing , what I would like to tell any

1:56

of the listeners , like I think people really

1:58

under value how important

2:01

it is to not eat two

2:03

hours before you go to bed .

2:05

Yeah , absolutely , because when you like

2:07

slam food , whatever it is , and

2:09

then you pass out , like your

2:11

body is using

2:13

the sleep in order to repair the brain

2:15

, right , that's been working all day , not only

2:17

the brain , but it's like if you , let's just say , you

2:19

had a hard workout that day , hit the gym

2:21

hard , maybe you walked on the treadmill

2:24

to incline , you know you , you you

2:26

did some good activity that day

2:28

. Your body needs that

2:30

sleep to recover , right . So it's like

2:32

, I think , in today's world

2:35

that we live in , it's like , man , you got TVs

2:37

everywhere with screens on them , with food

2:39

commercials up the wazoo . It's

2:42

the worst shit ever , especially if you watch like cable

2:44

TV . And it's like , okay

2:47

, you know , it's 10 , 11 PM , I'm winding

2:49

down , man , but I'm a little bit hungry , like

2:51

I could , I could , eat a little bit and then

2:53

you , you know , dip into the pantry and get a snack

2:56

and it's like , all of a sudden , like as

2:58

you go to bed , your body's spending the

3:01

time digesting the food while

3:03

you're sleeping , versus , like , the repairs and the recovery

3:05

it needs , right , like that brain function , like you said

3:07

, the muscle recovery just all those like

3:09

daily , like rep , like

3:12

repairs that it needs to do during sleep

3:14

is halted because , like it's

3:16

digesting food that you just put

3:19

slam down right for bed right . So

3:21

, yeah , I would say that's such a huge thing is try

3:23

, try to at least like not

3:25

eat like three hours before bed is what a lot

3:27

of doctors recommend . Okay , that makes

3:29

sense we were .

3:31

Just we were joking the other day because

3:33

eric's like you can't

3:35

tell me that slamming a big bowl of pasta

3:37

and then passing the fuck out doesn't feel great

3:39

and I'm like yeah it does feel

3:41

great yeah , but uh , just

3:44

get that massive glucose spike

3:46

and you're like , all right , now

3:48

I'm sleeping yeah , but then you know you

3:50

don't wake up to the best

3:52

yeah , oh yeah , you're gonna feel a little drowsy and

3:54

and not a hundred percent for sure but

3:57

but yeah , no , I would say like when

3:59

. When you said the listeners want to talk about

4:01

, just like fitness , nutrition

4:05

, right . It's like I think the biggest

4:07

starting point for that conversation

4:09

is like everybody's going to be at a different

4:11

point in their life and a different journey and

4:13

a different like they're gonna have different goals and aspirations

4:16

, right ? So it's like you

4:19

might just be just starting off with your fitness

4:21

journey or nutrition journey . You really want

4:23

to make these changes . You might be somebody who's a little more experienced

4:25

, who has built in routines and habits and stuff

4:27

like that , right . But I think the biggest thing to understand

4:30

is , wherever you are at in your journey , it's like

4:32

you need to understand

4:34

what your goals and

4:36

what you're trying to achieve is Right

4:38

, because if you don't have something to attach to it

4:41

, it's really hard to consistently

4:43

develop like good , strong

4:45

, foundational habits and routines if you

4:47

don't have like something that you're striving

4:49

for , right . Maybe it's like I just want

4:51

to have a six pack and

4:53

look really good because it's going to help with

4:55

my self image , like cool . If that's what you

4:57

want , go for it right . Maybe . It's like you know what

5:00

, when I first started working out , I loved

5:02

the way that I felt mentally . My energy

5:04

levels were great , all my relationships with everybody

5:06

. I just had like this , like glow

5:08

about me , right , that's what I want out of

5:10

my journey . And it's like , cool

5:12

, go get that right . So it's like

5:14

I think that's for me one of the most

5:17

important things that I've

5:19

done to , like , you know , really

5:21

change my life around . It's like , okay , I want

5:23

to be like a really dope , good ass

5:25

runner and I love

5:27

the way it makes me feel like I've literally turned

5:29

my whole life around from it . So it's like , okay , I'm going to strive

5:32

to be the best runner that I could be and

5:34

you know I'm going to , you know , put

5:36

the work in each and every day to , like you know

5:38

, get there . So , just starting

5:40

off like that , you've got to have a goal

5:42

, you have to have aspirations , something like

5:44

that you can objectify

5:46

. To like , like tangibly

5:48

see in your mind to get to like

5:51

, pull you there .

5:51

Right . I think it's important to have that

5:54

visualization and goal and

5:56

stick to it , but also learn when

5:58

you need to change it .

5:59

Absolutely . You got to be able to pivot and you know

6:01

, I think , that nothing should be like totally

6:04

concrete and set in stone , like like

6:06

we look at , like everything moves

6:08

so fast today and you know , all these big

6:10

companies , they don't just like plan years

6:12

out and then , like we have to stick

6:14

to this product that we're releasing , like this

6:16

is this is what we're doing Right , and it's

6:18

like , oh , we found out some new information

6:21

. This is what the users want . Some

6:24

new information , this is what the users want . Like let's change course , just like your dreams

6:26

and aspirations . Like you've got to be able to like assess at different points

6:28

along the way and you've

6:31

got to be able to pivot and change course , like depending

6:33

on what the circumstances are , or just like

6:35

the information that's , you know , newly presented

6:38

to you and whatever , that is Right .

6:40

I think it's important to note that for

6:42

a long time , my fitness

6:44

visualization was totally and

6:46

only reliant on I want to be a

6:49

better basketball player , right yeah

6:51

. But I didn't take that visualization

6:53

seriously because in the last three years

6:55

, whenever I would get hurt , I would completely

6:58

stop everything , right , I

7:00

would stop going to the gym . I'm like I can't do shit

7:02

, right , and I don't work out for

7:04

two months , right yeah . I just learned

7:06

a month ago , when I got hurt though , that

7:09

okay , I just can't do cardio or

7:12

I can't run and I can't do calf raises

7:14

. I can literally do any other

7:16

workout , right , honestly

7:18

, yeah . Um , like , obviously

7:21

the first few days , like , I can't do the leg press , you

7:23

know , just in case I bend down too far , I

7:26

could still do chest , I could still do arms , I could still

7:28

ride a stationary bike and

7:34

I stayed in relatively good shape . A month ago when I hurt my ankle and , you know , I was back at it again

7:36

and then I , you know , hurt myself four

7:39

days ago . No-transcript

8:05

, consistent with working

8:08

out and being physically active affects

8:10

every other aspect of my life .

8:12

Yeah , I was . I mean , I totally resonate

8:14

and feel that I was listening to a podcast

8:16

the other day and this

8:19

this doctor was on and she asked

8:21

the host of of the podcast . She's like

8:23

so what do you think is um more

8:26

important ? Or what do you think like ? Would

8:28

you try and like um focus

8:31

on first ? Would you focus on like

8:33

your mental , like health and your

8:36

mind , or would you focus on like the

8:38

physical body and like physical , like

8:40

strength and this , that and other right

8:42

, and he's like 100

8:45

like the physical aspect . You

8:47

know like we have a massive

8:49

mental health problem in this country even

8:51

. You know worldwide right , especially

8:54

you know um post . You know covid

8:56

pandemic and it's

8:58

really hard to fix mental problems

9:01

and like mental illness by

9:03

just like sitting stationary

9:05

and just talking about it and letting your mind

9:07

wander . And just like you know

9:10

like therapy is great and all and there's

9:12

definitely uses for it , but it's like the

9:14

mind body connection is so powerful

9:17

and if you cannot

9:19

physically like build yourself

9:21

up , the mental side of it is

9:24

just going to eat away at you . It's so hard to heal

9:26

the mind when the body

9:28

is just stationary and not moving

9:30

. You know I'm a huge proponent to like exercise

9:33

, movement . Just get yourself moving every day

9:35

a little bit right , and I'm telling

9:37

you like it'll fuel the mind , like

9:39

it's no one's business . You'll feel this mental

9:42

clarity and this just like sharpness

9:44

come about you when you get into a consistent habit

9:47

of physically building up your body

9:49

and just a little bit of movement every day . So I

9:52

thought that was a really cool thing on the podcast and I

9:54

forgot exactly how it went the back and forth

9:56

, but you know , eventually

9:58

they kind of came to an understanding . Like you know what I think you're

10:00

right , I would definitely start with the physical

10:03

side of things . Like you know what I think you're right , I would definitely

10:05

start with the physical side of things , building that up in the mental

10:07

. What you find in the mental journey then

10:09

is wow , I've actually built up like habits and

10:11

I've actually created discipline in

10:13

my life through building up my physical

10:16

body and all of a sudden , those mental things

10:18

that I was struggling with seemed

10:20

like second fiddle to like this

10:22

newfound power that I have where I have

10:24

created like consistency and discipline in my

10:26

life , right ?

10:27

So I mean it's not like completely undermining

10:30

, like therapy or like right , absolutely , yeah

10:32

, cause there is use for that and it's definitely very

10:34

much needed .

10:35

Yeah , sure , yeah .

10:36

I think , like you said , like sitting and talking

10:38

about things is is one thing , but

10:40

when you look at the state of the

10:43

country in general , like a lot of people

10:45

struggle with diet

10:47

and exercise and I'm not , I

10:49

don't even like using the word diet anymore

10:52

it's like people , we have an issue

10:54

with the food and substances

10:56

we consume and how often

10:58

we're getting active , right

11:00

. So we've talked about how

11:02

this journey has

11:05

affected us and what it means to us , and

11:07

I know that there are people out there who

11:09

are like okay , well , where do I start

11:11

? Right , and I think , like

11:14

you said , the first thing to do is to visualize

11:16

like what do you want out of this ? Right

11:18

? Are you doing this because you want to feel better ? Yeah

11:21

, are you doing this because you want to look

11:23

better ? Are you ? Are

11:26

you tired of not having any

11:28

energy ? Are you ?

11:29

tired of motivation , lack of just

11:31

like right discipline in your life . You just

11:33

feel like you're going through the motions or you just

11:35

feel like almost like this fog

11:37

over your head where it's like man . Every day just

11:39

seems like a struggle for me to get through and I don't

11:41

have , I'm low energy , I have know

11:43

all these like underlying

11:46

issues that just can't seem to be resolved

11:48

you know , and it's like okay , like that's

11:51

, that's what you're striving to fix through

11:54

exercise and and um , in

11:56

the , the lifestyle that you're going

11:59

to like undertake Right , and a

12:01

lot of it starts with the food that that

12:05

you're putting into your body . I know , know , you know , for me it was like I

12:07

used to eat a shitload of fast

12:10

food , Like I'm talking probably like four

12:12

days a week , you know . And growing up

12:14

, like you know , it was like we would eat like

12:16

it was no one's business . I remember , like

12:19

it just didn't feel right to me

12:21

. You know , I'm like this 13 year old boy

12:23

, I'm like fuck this , just like something's

12:26

off with this stuff . Man , like my

12:28

body should not be taking this in . And I

12:30

remember in like seventh grade , I'm like

12:32

all right , I'm gonna like go

12:34

like a full year without

12:37

fast food . Everyone thought I was fucking

12:39

crazy , right , you know . And I'm just like it

12:41

just doesn't . It's not sitting right with

12:43

me , you know . And just

12:45

from that young age , like wow , I can't believe

12:48

, like the clear mind , the clarity

12:50

I have just from cutting that shit out

12:52

, you know . And um , soda too

12:54

.

12:55

Yeah .

12:55

And soda , cut soda out and um

12:57

fast food , you know , like the age of like

13:00

13 or something like that . And , yeah

13:02

, it was amazing , just like the transformation

13:05

I felt , you know . So , um

13:12

, when it comes to like actual , like the nutrition and the fuel that we feed our

13:14

bodies with , it's like there's just so much research being poured into it

13:16

nowadays because of like all this processed garbage

13:18

that you know a lot of our society's

13:20

eating and just like this caked

13:23

up stuff where it's all disguised as

13:25

, yeah , just , you know , put this

13:27

in your body Like marketing is just like

13:29

flooding . You know the food industry with

13:31

all these like terrible , terrible

13:33

things for the human body . And

13:35

I think one of the biggest things that

13:38

is really starting to come to light is just the

13:40

negative connotation

13:42

that seed oils are starting to get right

13:44

and

13:49

it's like there's so many direct links and correlations to , like heart disease and obesity

13:51

, you know , based on these seed oils . You

13:53

know all the canola oils , the vegetable oils

13:55

, like all this stuff , right , and

13:58

you see it in just like a lot of stuff

14:00

on the shelves . Right , I was looking at this

14:02

Kraft Mayo like by Kraft . The company has like a jar of mayonnaise on the shelf . Right , I

14:04

was looking at this , um , craft mayo like by craft . The company is like

14:06

a jar of mayo mayonnaise on

14:08

the shelf the other day and it's uh , made with

14:10

like olive oil right on the front . It's

14:13

like , oh , perfect . You look at the back and

14:15

it's got all these seed oils on it . Like

14:18

, uh , first three ingredients are like soybean

14:20

oil , canola oil , vegetable oil . It's like

14:22

like so you could just slap this olive

14:24

oil logo on it . But then it's made with all

14:27

this shit .

14:27

All the other oil .

14:28

Yeah , pretty crazy when , when you actually

14:30

look at like all of like the

14:33

nasty stuff out there and like

14:35

what's like actually fueling most

14:37

of our bodies in modern society

14:39

and it's like man , we're just like running on complete

14:41

empty Right and

14:49

like outside and we can get back to like the physical aspect of things and like you know the exercise

14:51

, but fuel that we're fueling our bodies with is just like

14:53

one of the most just like disgusting

14:56

things in all of human history . I think we're

14:58

at a point where it's just like this is like grotesque

15:00

what's what's actually out there and

15:02

and what most people are actually eating

15:05

.

15:06

You know what's odd ? I don't think I've

15:09

mentioned this on this podcast , people have

15:11

mentioned it on their podcast , but if you look back

15:13

throughout time , you see

15:15

that there's always a difference

15:17

between , like , the upper ruling class

15:19

, or those with money , and then those

15:22

without money and resources . Right

15:24

, and for all of time , it was always that

15:27

the larger humans

15:29

were the richer ones . Right

15:32

, cause they had more food , they had more resources

15:34

Right , and then the ones

15:36

who were poor

15:39

or had less money

15:41

and resources and they were skinnier

15:43

right , they just didn't have a lot of food or money

15:45

. Right , it's kind of flipped now . Right

15:47

, because now the wealthy

15:50

have the money

15:52

and the resources and the time in order

15:55

to eat healthier . Yeah , and

15:57

they have more information about the food

15:59

that's out there , right , right . And those with less

16:01

are purchasing on

16:03

just convenience

16:06

sake . It's fast , it's here , it

16:08

tastes good , it's cheap . It's cheap , right , exactly

16:10

so I think that's kind

16:13

of like piggybacking on your whole , like it's one of the

16:15

most disgusting things in human history is

16:17

the food nowadays , and I agree with that

16:19

, you know , and I you know I I'm not

16:21

perfect . Like I said you know , I'll still go

16:23

and eat like Mexican food or like I like a beef

16:26

sandwich . You know you eat pizza sometimes

16:28

, right , but that that whole 80 , 20 rule

16:30

is really important , like most of the

16:32

time , if you're feeling snacky

16:35

and you want like something sweet , just

16:37

eat fruit , absolutely .

16:39

Like people want to eat like chips , cookies

16:42

and cake , and it's like all this like ultra

16:44

processed garbage , where it's

16:46

like , um , in the moment , moment

16:48

, it's gonna like have this insane dopamine

16:51

rush , like holy shit , this

16:53

is the best food I've ever had

16:55

. Like the taste is , like you know

16:57

, godlike . And then it's like

16:59

but what did it actually do

17:02

to like nourish my body ? Like

17:04

absolutely nothing , right

17:06

. Right . Like literally like you're gonna feel

17:08

worse than you did before in

17:10

about like an hour and a half , two hours

17:12

. So it's like in in . It's

17:15

weird because it's like a balance where it's like , okay

17:17

, so like , how strict do I want to be ? Um

17:20

, because then some people look at it and they're like , oh

17:22

my gosh , like I'm scared to actually

17:24

like venture into , like changing the lifestyle

17:27

and the food that I intake , because I

17:29

can't do zero to a hundred , I can't

17:31

just like cut all this stuff out

17:33

that gives me joy and pleasure

17:35

, because sugar is one of the most addictive

17:37

chemicals on the earth , right ? So it's like I'm just not

17:40

going to make any changes because I can't do

17:42

that and I don't want to give that stuff up . And it's like

17:44

I think that there's got to

17:46

be a balance that's created and it's like

17:48

there has to be a starting point , right

17:50

? Like you know I'm somebody

17:52

who personally likes to do zero to

17:54

100 things . Like , if you give

17:56

, provide me like new information or you

17:58

provide me a different way of doing things , and

18:01

that I'm currently doing it and it

18:03

makes sense to me , then I'm just going to change course

18:05

and absolutely go all in to do that

18:08

. I don't need to like this buffer point

18:10

or I don't need to like kind of be

18:12

half in , half out on something . It's like , yeah

18:14

, zero to a hundred for me , but a lot of people aren't like that

18:16

. So it's like , what I would suggest is

18:19

just like make small changes . You

18:21

know like okay , how can I like make one

18:23

small change today to like

18:25

what I'm eating and incorporate

18:28

that ? You know moving forward too

18:30

. So it's like okay . So instead of like having

18:32

maybe a peanut butter and jelly sandwich

18:35

which has a lot

18:37

of , you know , processed sugars

18:39

, refined carbs in it from the bread and all

18:41

that , it's like maybe I could have

18:43

like some grilled chicken or something like that . Right , for me personally

18:46

, it's always beef , all beef , like I think it's just pound for pound , the best . Me personally

18:48

, it's always beef , all beef , like I

18:50

think it's just pound for pound , the best , but it's like some

18:53

type of good protein source , whether it's , you

18:55

know , chicken , beef , some type of fish

18:57

. Maybe you could even do um and

18:59

make that change , right ? Um , so

19:02

it's like that's . That's what I would say is like , okay

19:04

, maybe you're not gonna like do

19:06

it all and go all in and completely

19:09

like revolutionize and change you know

19:11

, your lifestyle , the food you eat , but even

19:13

if it's like one small change and add that

19:15

and then make another small change and then start to

19:18

like really do your own research and

19:20

do your due diligence and like

19:22

what's the most beneficial thing for me

19:24

, right ? A lot of people don't get enough protein

19:26

in their diet on a daily basis . Protein

19:28

is such an important macro that

19:31

, like you know , you should be getting

19:33

at least your body weight in grams per

19:36

day of protein . And I would say I don't

19:38

know what the like stats are , but man , I

19:40

would say like probably more than like 60

19:42

, 70% of Americans don't get that

19:44

. It's like if you weigh 200 pounds

19:47

, like 200 grams of protein is pretty

19:49

tough to get . If you're eating a lot of just processed

19:52

food . If you're eating fast food , like once a day

19:54

, and you're eating just like a bunch of

19:56

like you know refined carbs , like

19:58

there's no way you're getting anywhere close to 200

20:00

grams of protein , right .

20:02

And that's when your muscles don't have the

20:04

required nutrients in order to build themselves

20:07

. So I think I think finding

20:09

required nutrients in order to build themselves . Yeah , so I think

20:11

I think finding , like you said , small changes to stick to , like maybe just start

20:13

eating a little more fruit each week

20:15

and changing out some of the the

20:18

sweet snacks that you fill your cupboard yeah

20:20

, stuff with more just , whole , natural foods

20:23

, right .

20:24

That's like the biggest change is like if you could just

20:26

cut out a lot like of processed food

20:28

. And it's like , okay , is this like

20:31

food found in its natural state

20:33

, how it is ? No , it's not okay

20:35

, probably shouldn't be eating it then , right . And

20:37

it's like once you start like taking stock of that

20:39

, then it's like , oh , wow , it's actually really easy

20:41

to like . Really make it

20:44

a quick change . All of a

20:46

sudden I'm eating a lot of fruits and I'm

20:48

not a big vegetable person , but vegetables , right

20:50

, salad like , lettuce stuff , like that

20:52

Like not my cup of tea , but hey , if that's what

20:54

you like , go for it , right . Maybe just don't

20:57

do any dressing on it , like put some lemon juice

20:59

, um , you know . So

21:01

it's like , okay , less processed

21:03

food , more whole natural food . Make

21:06

that switch and like instant

21:08

change in your life , your whole mindset

21:11

, and just like the way your body feels on a day to

21:13

day basis .

21:13

Right . So prioritizing

21:16

more whole foods , less processed foods

21:18

, that's one thing . Second

21:20

thing I want to say and this

21:22

is crazy , because mom looks at me

21:24

like I'm fucking crazy when I say that so does dad

21:27

and uncle , danny , and stuff

21:29

and it's like you could just like fast

21:32

a little bit , like when you start telling

21:34

people you don't always have to snack , like

21:36

you were saying earlier in the episode , like there's

21:38

literally commercials about food everywhere . Right , they're

21:41

trying to make us feel hungry all the time

21:43

. Yeah , if , if , you're not gonna

21:45

make a whole bunch of zero to

21:47

100 changes like we do , because

21:49

I'm an addict . You

21:52

had a problem with drinking the zero to 100

21:54

. Lifestyle definitely lives more in addicts

21:56

than normal people , right ? Right ? If

21:59

you're going to make one change

22:01

, I think it would just be to look

22:03

at yourself from the third person . When you're feeling

22:06

hungry , try and curb your appetite . Try and almost tell yourself

22:08

that you're not hungry . Try and curb your appetite . Try

22:10

and almost tell yourself that you're not always

22:12

hungry all the time . Right , because , people , we

22:15

wake up and we're like in

22:17

survival mode as humans . Like we got to eat . Yeah

22:19

, you know , but the problem is like they're

22:22

literally telling us to eat all the fucking time

22:24

.

22:24

Yeah , like even two hours after , like

22:26

a really big meal you

22:29

see something like yeah , I could go for some of that , I'll snack on that a little bit .

22:30

Yeah , I'll snack a little bit on that .

22:31

Yeah , I would say the biggest thing is like okay

22:33

, just understanding

22:36

what it actually is that's

22:38

making you hungry , right , it's these ads

22:40

, it's the TV , it's just like boredom

22:42

a lot of the time , right , and

22:52

it's like , okay , all it is is like a chemical response

22:54

in your body to like tell your mind it's time to eat . So it's like and I've done a

22:56

lot of like fasting over the past , probably what

22:59

three years now and I've kind of like went away from

23:01

it just because I don't really need to fast

23:03

too much anymore , especially

23:05

with like running a lot . I just like need

23:07

a good amount of food and nutrition

23:10

in me . But when

23:12

I did do a lot of fasting it was like

23:14

okay , um , typically

23:16

those urges and those sensations will

23:19

last anywhere from like 10 to 20

23:21

minutes , maybe even less , sometimes

23:23

maybe like five minutes , right , and it's

23:25

like when you can actually sit down

23:27

and feel comfortable with yourself and like really

23:29

like work through the emotion , work through

23:31

that chemical response that's happening in your body that's

23:33

making you hungry , and understand that you're

23:35

really not actually that hungry . It's just

23:38

a natural response that the body's

23:40

making because

23:42

there's some type of stimulation

23:45

that's eliciting it , whether

23:47

it's like some type of marketing or ad , right . So

23:49

once you can actually internalize that

23:51

and like come to an understanding of , okay

23:53

, I'm actually not hungry

23:56

, like this is insane , I just ate fucking

23:58

two hours ago , um , then

24:00

uh , you can work through

24:02

that and it becomes a lot easier to fight

24:05

those urges and and actually

24:07

not eat . So you know , just understanding

24:09

it for what it is right it does

24:11

.

24:12

It does take some training , though , too absolutely

24:14

, because I mean had to do the same

24:16

thing . We're getting off of nicotine . It's

24:18

like every five , it's like five minutes . I'd have an

24:20

urge to smoke , right , the urge would last

24:22

like five minutes and I'm like I should hop in my car

24:24

, go to the gas station and get

24:26

a cigar right some shit you know and

24:29

you get through the five minutes and you're like , yeah , I think

24:31

I'm all right now I think I'm good in the

24:33

moment , though , when I was really struggling with that , it was

24:35

just like you're always telling yourself you'll change

24:37

after yeah , right , and

24:39

that's the toughest thing .

24:41

It's like well , okay , let me just do

24:43

it this time and then I'll figure

24:45

it out and , like you know , we and we'll

24:47

probably stop next time .

24:50

And you create this loop in your head , right

24:52

, and it's fucking vicious , I think

24:54

. So , aside from the food

24:56

part , finding

24:59

small things to do for physical

25:01

activity as well , yeah , absolutely

25:03

Coupling that with it

25:06

is just vitally important .

25:10

I was telling Sarah about this last night

25:12

. I don't know the exact number so I'm

25:14

not going to quote it , but there was a study . I

25:19

forgot if I was listening or I was actually

25:21

reading it . It was something , though , but it was

25:23

like dementia is a huge problem

25:25

in today's society . It's

25:27

kind of being coined as type three diabetes

25:30

, right , because there's a lot

25:32

of like understanding starting

25:34

to to come to light of like diet

25:36

and exercise as a is

25:38

like a key contributor into

25:40

dementia and Alzheimer's

25:42

right ? So , especially

25:45

when you just look at like we were just talking about , with all

25:47

the you know shit food out there

25:49

nowadays so , um , this

25:51

study showed that if you can walk

25:54

for 45 minutes a day for

25:56

three days a week , it'll decrease your

25:59

chance of developing dementia by , um

26:01

, some crazy percentage . I think

26:03

it was like almost over 50 or

26:05

something like that , right ? And um , when

26:07

I was telling sarah this , I'm like man , like , isn't that crazy

26:09

that like just something

26:11

as simple as that . Going for a walk for

26:13

45 minutes in a day

26:15

, three days a week , like

26:17

just three days a week Is that that's crazy to me

26:19

, right ? And then I'm thinking I'm like , so

26:22

why is like dementia running so

26:24

rampant here in the us ? Like , oh

26:26

, because people just

26:28

don't exercise like

26:30

at all . Yeah , like , like

26:33

. Imagine , like if you did

26:35

moderate exercise in your teenage

26:37

years , in your early

26:39

20s or something like that , and then you get a

26:42

job because you went to college and

26:44

you're kind of like set up , it's the whole like

26:46

american dream type thing . You have have a family , you have

26:48

kids , you

26:51

know , you start to work

26:53

up the corporate ladder , whatever that is

26:55

. Grandkids come into the picture

26:57

then , and all of a sudden you're

26:59

nearing the age of retirement

27:01

and you

27:03

look back and you're like I haven't exercised

27:05

in 30 plus years , I haven't done any

27:08

physical activity in over 30 years

27:10

, and it's like man , I feel like that's just such

27:12

a common thing in today's society because it's

27:14

not really talked about much . The importance

27:16

of exercise , the importance of of

27:19

like what it is to like physically move

27:21

your body , like we're creatures of movement

27:23

, you know like we need to move and

27:26

uh , and yeah , I just

27:28

think that like just starting

27:30

at a place like that , like we'll

27:33

really start to repair a lot of the damage

27:35

done to our society

27:37

over the past , you know , four or five

27:39

, six decades , whatever it's been .

27:41

Right , you know , the amount of

27:43

sugar people eat and not exercising is

27:45

huge , I think .

27:48

It's just like the lack of like really

27:51

like speaking to it right

27:53

. Like there's like this hustle culture

27:55

now and there's this corporate grind and

27:57

there's just like this stigma

28:00

of like you have to like

28:02

, yeah , you need money to do all these things . You

28:04

need like this , this and this , and it's like don't

28:06

worry about your own health and your own like personal ambitions . Right , don't

28:08

worry about your own health and your own like like personal .

28:10

Right now , worry about your health later .

28:12

And it's like I think that's just so ass backwards

28:14

. It's just like holy shit , like , how are

28:16

you ever supposed to like actually be worth

28:19

something to your own self if you can't like

28:21

truly like discover

28:23

what it is to like , develop a consistent

28:25

like habit in and in

28:28

in your lifestyle and the nutrition that you

28:30

, you choose to partake

28:33

in ?

28:33

it's just respecting and loving yourself , though

28:35

you know I don't think that money

28:37

and things and status will ever do

28:40

that .

28:41

No , you know , people think that right

28:43

because it's glamorized through mass

28:45

media and shit like that , especially if you follow

28:47

like anything in the entertainment industry , right , you see that

28:49

, and you follow like anything in the entertainment industry , right , you see that , and you're like , oh , I want that

28:51

. Right Cause the human mind like see something

28:54

, and it has curb

28:56

appeal , and it's like that

28:58

, like willful desire starts to

29:00

like churn where it's like , oh yeah , that , that would

29:02

be nice , like I want that , and maybe

29:04

you can't settle for something like that , but and maybe you can't settle

29:06

for something like that , but you settle for something lower than that . And then

29:08

, all of a sudden , like your whole , like persona and demeanor

29:11

, and everything you're attributing your life

29:13

to is just like this , like , almost

29:15

like false satisfaction of like

29:17

, like inflated

29:20

gratification , just like , like

29:23

it doesn't have any weight or sustenance

29:25

to it .

29:26

No , well

29:29

, we were talking about this on the other episode . Like sometimes , we

29:31

live in imaginary daydream land , like I do , and I'm like , oh

29:33

, that's a good idea . Or it's like me in the future

29:36

that acted on this idea Right

29:38

, and I envision myself and

29:40

I feel you can feel your thoughts . You

29:42

can feel that daydream . You're like oh , I already

29:45

did it in my head 10

29:47

months from now and I'm like all right , that's enough work for

29:49

today . You know , no one really wants to

29:51

like put in the work to get there .

29:53

And .

29:54

I know , even like people

29:56

in our generation and

29:59

the gen you know , people here know

30:01

there's a problem , right , and we're seeking

30:03

a solution for the most part . There are

30:05

people who don't , right

30:08

, and that's fine , you know . But for the people

30:10

who come here to feel free , they're

30:12

usually coming to learn something , be inspired or

30:14

laugh , right . So what

30:17

I would like to say is we're

30:20

very athletic people , right . We've

30:22

also been blessed with a good metabolism , right

30:25

. But I'll tell you that between

30:29

the fall of 2022 and

30:31

the fall of 2023 , almost

30:33

like a 13 , 14 month span I wasn't

30:35

doing too hot and there

30:37

were large spans

30:39

of time , sometimes like four or five months , where

30:42

I wasn't working out , I

30:44

wasn't eating , right , I wasn't

30:46

doing anything physically active , the only

30:48

walks I was going on I was going on walks

30:50

, but that was only to smoke . Yeah , right . So

30:52

that's unsaving grace . I guess

30:54

you know but I'm eating like shit , I'm scrolling

30:56

my phone , I'm doing a whole bunch of stupid ass shit

30:58

and I'm depressed and I'm down , I'm not

31:00

going to the gym , right . And then in

31:03

september , after our

31:06

, our kitten passed away , I

31:08

didn't feel like going to the gym , right . I didn't

31:10

feel like looking at people , I was ashamed of myself

31:12

, I didn't have any self-esteem , right

31:14

. So I told myself I'm like

31:16

, if we're not going to hoop

31:18

and we're not going to lift weights

31:21

, we are going to

31:23

do pushups here . We're

31:25

going to do pushups and sit-ups , right

31:27

, something . I don't even care if it's only a hundred

31:29

a day , right . And I just got in the

31:31

habit of getting my body moving again , which

31:34

I know . At the start of your journey

31:36

, you gave up

31:38

, like drinking and smoking for that

31:40

, that bet to run the mile , and

31:43

you started training that month leading up

31:45

to the mile and you're like , holy shit , I'm super

31:48

out of shape , right . But you , you

31:50

got in the habit of just going out there and sweating

31:52

.

31:52

Absolutely , you know , just pushing through

31:54

it Like it's , it's tough , it

31:56

hurts , it's not fun in

31:59

the moment , right , but it's also

32:01

like extremely rewarding , right

32:03

, like , for me , I love just pushing myself

32:05

to the absolute limit of like my

32:07

physical limits and stuff like that , right , I

32:09

always loved that growing up , so kind

32:11

of venturing back into that . It's like , yes , like

32:14

this is what I'm looking for , right , like

32:16

this is what I want . And um , you

32:18

know , to kind of piggyback off what you were just saying , it's

32:20

like , um , it's

32:23

really hard when shit starts going

32:25

South in your life , to like continue

32:27

to , um , you

32:30

know , exemplify the

32:32

life you were , you were leading before

32:34

, right , um , whether that's

32:36

like getting to into the gym on a consistent

32:38

basis , um , you

32:41

know , eating the the right foods all

32:43

the time . Like , when , like shit

32:45

starts going south , it's really hard to

32:48

like continue to , like still stay

32:50

the course . And

32:52

I think you still have to have that grace with yourself

32:54

and understand that like it's

32:57

okay , like it's all right , but

32:59

it's like , instead of just like giving

33:02

yourself a cop out and just being like whatever

33:04

, I'm just like depressed . I don't feel

33:06

like doing this shit . Like you

33:08

know , this , this and this is going on . Like

33:10

you know , I just had like my kitten die . Like

33:12

I feel like ass . It's

33:15

like let's just sit here and

33:17

ponder and think about it and really

33:19

try and understand it and learn from

33:21

it , right , like I think that like the

33:23

biggest thing you can do , whether you're either injured

33:26

, you're hurt or you're just depressed or

33:28

you don't feel right , it's like , instead

33:30

of like wallowing in your own self-pity

33:32

, it's like like this is a learning process

33:35

to understand like the inner mechanics

33:37

of like my own mind and body and like how I

33:39

deal and rationalize and internalize it and

33:41

then , moving forward , I can utilize

33:44

that to to to like , um

33:46

, get back on the horse a lot quicker , right

33:49

? So it's like maybe

33:51

it would take me like two weeks to

33:54

get back to my routine of

33:56

getting to the gym when , like shit started

33:58

going South in my life and

34:00

through that two weeks , I really

34:03

was taking stock and starting to understand and

34:05

learn what that process looked like for myself

34:07

and like , oh okay , like

34:10

man , I just like can't get over

34:12

the hump because , like that depressed

34:14

feeling I have , like it just makes me not

34:16

want to like work out or do any of like the

34:18

stuff that really actually makes me feel better

34:20

. It can actually pull you out of that depression , right

34:22

? Um , so it's like

34:24

, next time it happens , maybe it's not

34:26

two weeks , maybe like now that you've

34:28

recognized it and you actually were able

34:30

to like reflect on it , like it's not

34:32

two weeks now , it's only one week and

34:35

you got to reflect on it over that one week , that

34:37

depressed state you were in . You're starting to reflect

34:39

and , like man , I'm conscious of being

34:41

depressed , in a bad state , and I'm conscious of

34:43

not being able to eat healthy

34:45

and work out consistently

34:47

able

34:52

to eat healthy and work out consistently . Um , and all of a sudden it's like , okay , next

34:54

time something happens in your life and you maybe you're in a more depressed or like not

34:56

feeling like working out state , you

34:58

recognize it sooner . And it's

35:00

like man , now , instead of a week

35:02

of it , it was only one day

35:04

, right , and it's like I think

35:06

that's the biggest thing is like learning how

35:08

you you work and respond to that and like giving

35:11

yourself the grace necessary to like

35:13

not beat yourself up over it . But it's like man

35:16

, you have to use those experiences

35:18

and like those mishaps to

35:21

like truly learn and improve

35:24

and understand how you can you shorten the gap

35:26

to get back to that consistent discipline that

35:28

you set up , because at the end of the day , it's like

35:30

shit's going to go wrong in everybody's life

35:32

and you're going to have points of depression and points

35:34

of sadness or not feeling like doing things

35:36

, but it's like you're always going to

35:38

like fall back to your baseline level of habits

35:40

, right ? You're always going to fall back to like what

35:43

are those ? Like innate baseline

35:45

habits that are super ingrained in you and

35:55

a lot of the time it's like habits that are anti-patterns or negative habits , right , because

35:57

, like those stick a lot harder than you know the really positive , like influential ones , in

35:59

our life .

35:59

So it's like being able to like recognize that

36:02

and and change that , too is is

36:04

is really important , yeah , being aware of

36:06

that right , being , just like you know , self-aware

36:09

of it is it's it's something

36:11

you have to train yourself to do too , and it's

36:13

something that I've gotten better at in the last year

36:15

and a half too , because , you

36:18

know , during the first few years of my sobriety

36:20

I didn't have like a bunch of terrible things

36:22

go wrong . And then in

36:25

the last year and a half my recovery was

36:27

tested . I'm

36:29

still sober to this day , and that's one

36:32

thing I will always be grateful of . But my recovery

36:34

was tested in terms of how I viewed physical

36:36

wellness and stuff . And now , as

36:38

things come up in my life that

36:41

are shitty , I give myself

36:43

a grace period to be human , feel

36:46

emotion , not beat myself up about

36:48

it . So Wednesday I re myself up about it Like . So Thursday

36:50

or Wednesday I re-rolled my ankle Right

36:52

and Lisa actually took

36:54

my car to class that night . I don't know what it is

36:57

, but every time Lisa takes my car

36:59

and drops me at the gym to hoop , I

37:01

roll my fucking shit .

37:02

You know , it's like your body knows . Oh , we don't

37:04

have a car to get home . Not going to wait

37:06

for our ride . You're going to sit here with your rolled

37:08

ass ankle no actually I was so

37:10

depressed about it .

37:11

I called a Lyft , nice . I got a Lyft

37:14

home and I told her . I got

37:16

her on the phone , I'm icing my leg and I'm like , yeah

37:19

, when you're getting home , I'm pretty down right now

37:21

and I'm going to go to Jewel and get

37:24

a pint of Ben and Jerry's and I'm going to watch

37:26

Avatar , the last airbender , yeah , and

37:28

that's what I did , you know , right , and uh

37:30

, I was really sad about it and

37:33

being able to adapt and change up

37:35

. I'm like , all right , we just rolled it a month

37:37

ago and we stayed really consistent

37:39

with our working out . Right , right , I got to change

37:41

, I got to adapt . Right , I'm not , this

37:44

shit happens . What

37:48

was it ? Thursday I did a

37:50

chest day . I

37:57

did 300 push-ups and then 30 minutes of other chest exercises with dumbbells

37:59

that I have at my apartment . Then

38:02

yesterday I did a leg day and sauna day . Today I'm going to be doing

38:04

abs . The old me would have not

38:06

have done anything these three days . The

38:09

old me would have let this drag on for a week

38:11

or three weeks or a month , right

38:13

, right , and just hold up and

38:15

been all sad and shit . You know , yeah , so

38:18

being able to take a

38:20

step back that perspective . Like

38:22

hey , shit happens , change

38:25

your routine . You know , you

38:27

had your ice cream .

38:31

All right , you know , you got your your guilty pleasure , and exactly

38:34

right , you know let's get back to it

38:36

.

38:36

You know , I had a really healthy breakfast eggs today

38:39

with fruit .

38:40

You know , um , it's

38:42

being able to , like you said , shorten that gap

38:44

in between the shitty periods and to

38:46

get back on your routine , yeah , and

38:49

the only way you can do that is just consciously taking

38:51

stock and reflecting and having that self-awareness

38:54

to to pull yourself out

38:56

of it and understand what some of those , those

38:58

gaps are . Um , but

39:01

one thing I did want to also bring up too

39:03

that you had mentioned with the sauna , right , as

39:06

if you're somebody especially um

39:08

keen into working

39:10

out and trying to build some muscle , like highly

39:13

recommend getting some sauna sessions

39:15

in um I think , in general

39:17

though too , like it's super good for your heart

39:19

health . Yeah also , I mean it's like I

39:21

was saying more , like you know , for the

39:24

muscle , like lifting and stuff , because , um

39:26

, you know , there's so much research out there

39:28

that shows like three , three days

39:30

plus a week in the sauna , the

39:33

uh , human growth hormone increases

39:36

in the body like tremendously right

39:38

, so huge for muscle growth . But um

39:41

, also the heat shock , proteins and

39:43

everything like it's just amazing for everybody

39:45

. Like I would recommend everybody to to

39:48

get in the sauna multiple times a week . It's

39:50

just that . And cold

39:52

plunges You're not gonna be able

39:54

to shock your body like that that

39:57

quickly , right . And it's like the

40:00

benefits of the sauna . It's like

40:02

, man , just look at the elevated

40:04

heart rate that you're getting and that

40:06

amount of sweat , the amount of working

40:09

out you have to do to increase that that

40:11

. So it's like the stress that it puts on the body . Um

40:13

, just like next to nothing

40:16

. It's so hard to to get that anywhere else

40:18

. So I would , you know , highly recommend

40:20

the sauna sessions and the cold plunges .

40:22

Start incorporating those into the routine I

40:24

just started doing the sauna , like this year

40:26

, yeah , and , and I had made

40:28

an excuse , you know about it . So

40:31

I think , like

40:33

everybody here on this planet , we

40:36

make excuses for why we don't do things

40:38

that are good for us .

40:40

You know , Start to rationalize .

40:42

Well , like you know

40:44

, I do understand

40:46

the importance of this , but not

40:50

right now not now

40:52

, not today , maybe later

40:54

, and I was rationalizing it for a long

40:56

time because the one

40:58

LA fitness I go to doesn't

41:01

have the sauna . The one that

41:03

does have the sauna is a 20 minute drive . You

41:05

know , and I

41:07

started , you

41:10

know , making that sacrifice . I'm

41:12

like I got to go there at least once or twice a

41:14

week . I got to hit the sauna and

41:16

I've been doing that for the year of 2024

41:19

now and I just I feel fucking great

41:21

, aside from like the consistent

41:23

workout , to like being in the sauna for

41:26

at least 20 minutes , and that one's hot as fuck too

41:28

, that one gets hot , but it feels good

41:30

. Um , so

41:32

I think , to recap

41:35

I don't think we're going to be done with the episode

41:37

, but just to recap some things

41:39

for the listeners out there find

41:41

a few small things to change about

41:44

your eating habits

41:46

and your workout habits .

41:48

Cut out the processed food for sure . Yes

41:50

, as much as possible .

41:51

Yeah , the processed food , like

41:53

we were saying earlier , the 80-20 rule

41:55

Right , try and eat healthy

41:58

80% of the time , yeah , and

42:00

you can go off the rails the other 20 . Yeah

42:02

, you know , fuck it , right . But just

42:04

make sure you hit that 80 and

42:06

get in the process of knowing what you're putting into your body

42:08

. Yeah , more whole what you're putting

42:10

into your body more whole foods , less

42:12

processed foods . And get active

42:15

a few times a week , right , honestly

42:17

, if you're really out of shape and you don't know where to start

42:19

, just start with going on a few fucking walks

42:21

a week . Yeah , just start with a walk and

42:24

then , honestly , after that , just try

42:26

doing body weight exercises .

42:27

Body weight exercises , huge squats

42:30

, pushups , pull ups , stuff

42:32

like that , right , even

42:36

lunges , getting some lunges , some split legs , squat lunging , and try planks

42:38

too , planks , even some side

42:40

planks . Um , you can

42:42

even get like a little medicine ball for yourself

42:45

and do a lot of ab workout

42:47

stuff with medicine balls . Um , even

42:50

kettle bells , right , like there's so much like stuff

42:52

that you could do even at your house , like

42:55

order , these small little weight

42:57

things and , like you know , even a few

42:59

dumbbells , stuff

43:01

like that , Right . And all of a sudden it's like , oh

43:03

, I have like the necessary equipment

43:05

now to like really do my

43:08

body justice , maybe even like a Pilates

43:10

type workout would be right for

43:12

you , right , and there's so many of that

43:14

stuff on YouTube you could just look up , right , which

43:16

is really cool . So I

43:18

think that's important . And then just to kind of hammer

43:21

home and talk about like the whole foods , right

43:23

, like getting good , natural whole

43:25

foods shout out to whole foods too . It's

43:27

really expensive , so is

43:31

like I

43:34

would say , like for

43:37

me , I kind of walk through

43:39

like the majority of my diet

43:41

really quick . It's like okay . So I

43:44

like to break things down by the macro . So we'll start with

43:46

protein , right , protein mainly

43:49

um beef right

43:51

in the form of ground beef , like to do

43:53

like 80 20 , because there's some really good saturated

43:56

fat in there . And no , like saturated

43:59

fat and the fat from beef , it's

44:01

not bad for you , it's a lie , it's

44:03

a scam , it's amazing , right . So

44:06

do the research like it

44:08

does not call it cause heart disease

44:10

, like maybe the seed oils that

44:12

it's cooked in could cause it . But , um

44:15

, across the board , a lot of the

44:17

medical communities starting to

44:19

to really understand , like , yeah

44:21

, it's not the , not the red meat that's causing

44:23

this heart disease . So , um

44:25

, that's main protein

44:28

. Also , maybe do some like really clean turkey

44:30

too , uh , which

44:32

is pretty quick , but yeah , mainly beef

44:34

. So ground beef steaks . And

44:37

then I will also incorporate

44:40

a lot of organs . Highly recommend organs

44:42

. You can get them online too

44:44

. Like beef liver . Heart

44:46

is really good . Heart tastes just like steak too

44:49

, so don't be too scared of heart . It also has a really important

44:51

enzyme , the coq12 , so highly

44:54

recommend heart . Um kidney

44:56

, I do a lot of bone marrow too

44:58

. Bone marrow is amazing , super

45:00

fatty and it just like tastes like straight

45:02

butter . It's . It's great . So , um

45:05

, and then uh , some

45:08

good like collagen as well , which I'll kind of

45:10

heat up on the stove and drink it hot

45:12

, almost like a cup of coffee type thing , right . So

45:14

, um , those are

45:16

like a lot of the protein source there , and then also

45:18

some good pasture raised eggs . If you're going

45:20

to get eggs , I would definitely highly recommend the pasture

45:23

raised because , uh , pasture

45:25

raised is like they have to be on a certain

45:27

I forgot how many acres of land it is but

45:29

they pretty much have free reign to roam , which is nice

45:32

you

45:39

don it is , but they pretty much have free reign to roam , which is nice you don't want like cage free , because cage free means they only have like this small little enclosed

45:41

area . It's kind of to be honest . But , yeah , definitely look for organic pasteurized eggs

45:43

if you're gonna go eggs . So I'll usually do three to four eggs a day on top

45:45

of that , um , and

45:47

then for the carbs

45:50

, we'll switch into going more . Um

45:52

, start with like some some dairy

45:55

. So I like to do a lot of kefir , like

45:57

once a day I'll have a glass

45:59

of kefir which um has some good protein

46:02

, fat and carbs in it , right , and I'll mix that

46:04

in with some honey , um , preferably

46:06

glyphosate free honey . Glyphosate's

46:08

found in so much of the honey nowadays that

46:11

trying to find a company with glyphosate

46:13

free is super important , just with all the

46:15

negative aspects that um

46:19

, his his start to come to light with uh with

46:21

glyphosate , so glyphosate free honey

46:23

. And uh , we'll

46:25

go with um , some fruit

46:27

, so bananas I'll usually

46:30

like fresh squeeze , like two oranges

46:32

a day . Now I've started to incorporate

46:34

my juicer uh

46:36

, cherries , mangoes

46:39

and uh , a ton

46:41

of salt . Make a little kefir smoothie with something like

46:43

that . So , uh

46:46

, that's a lot of the carbon take uh

46:48

during like workouts and stuff . I like coconut water

46:50

. It's just super clean , feels

46:53

good , so , um , that's's

46:55

that's kind of the carb intake , and then the fat

46:58

pretty much comes from , like the eggs , the

47:00

beef , and then I'll usually do like an avocado

47:02

a day , um , so

47:05

for , like me , that's kind of like my 80

47:07

percent right , like really trying to like

47:09

slowly transition to getting fully 100%

47:12

, like sticking to it , right . But I

47:14

mean you were at 100% for a good

47:17

while , yeah , then slipped up a little Right

47:19

, started to like incorporate some other stuff and

47:21

mess around with some things . But yeah

47:24

, I would say , like , that's kind of like my

47:27

like overall , you know

47:29

perfect world in terms of like what's

47:32

going into my body and you can even incorporate

47:34

some like rod , like dairy

47:36

cheese type stuff too . I've actually started

47:39

to venture into the cheese things

47:41

as much as I like hate , hate cheese , so

47:43

got some , got some raw cheese in the fridge

47:45

right now that we're uh , we're testing

47:48

out . So really good for the microbiome

47:50

. Um , yeah , yeah . Bacteria

47:53

, yeah , um .

47:55

I can't say that mine diet

47:57

on a weekly basis is as uh planned

48:00

out as that . I

48:03

do eat a lot of beef , like my meal preps are beef , and

48:06

I eat rice , Um , a

48:08

lot . I also eat a lot of fruit . Uh

48:12

, salmon , Salmon's really big

48:14

on my weekly diet . We

48:18

only drink . Also , for

48:20

people out there like we don't drink pop .

48:23

Yeah , cut the pop and shit out

48:25

. God . The fucking soda's so bad , even

48:27

like juice .

48:28

If you're not like freshly juicing , it probably

48:30

don't buy it , because it's probably just got a ton

48:33

of like added sugar in it , right , I

48:35

think sometimes , if I don't have

48:37

the time or if I'm out

48:40

of certain materials

48:42

at my place , I will buy like a muscle milk

48:44

after a workout . That's

48:47

kind of the only thing that I drink outside

48:49

of just water , coffee

48:51

and tea . Yeah , so water , coffee and tea

48:53

. We are pretty big on the

48:56

carbonated water . You

48:58

know , got it right here , yeah , whenever you need a little

49:00

pop .

49:01

Yeah , just a little sparkling

49:03

water always does the trick .

49:04

Yeah , nothing like super processed , like

49:06

sugar and shit like that I

49:09

do . I still fast a lot because

49:11

I just don't eat in the morning . I still fast a lot because I just don't

49:13

eat in the morning . I get all my calories in between like 12

49:17

and 8 . 12

49:21

pm to 8 pm is when I do

49:23

all my eating .

49:25

I do like oatmeal a lot too . How do you like

49:27

the liver ?

49:31

I heard you ventured into the organ meats . Let me tell you something because we'll

49:33

probably make this a real . I'm gonna be honest

49:36

this whole liver thing , fucking

49:40

ass yeah , it doesn't taste too god

49:42

, it tastes terrible .

49:43

I was gonna bring some today . Oh my god

49:45

, slip my mind the , the whole .

49:47

Here's the thing the purpose over pleasure . I get it

49:49

. I have done

49:51

done it like three or four times at this point

49:53

. It

49:56

just so happens I get hurt so I'm not even able

49:58

to like work out as hard as I want to and

50:00

repair myself . I can tell

50:03

that between doing the liver , the

50:05

sauna , changing my sleeping habits

50:07

and all this stuff like these are all great things

50:09

to do , but the liver tastes terrible

50:11

. Don't listen to any fucking influencer

50:14

anywhere when the fucking talk

50:16

it up like it's fucking great . Tastes like shit

50:18

. Yeah , you know , I think aiden makes smoothies

50:21

. He makes like these . Yeah , you can make a

50:23

good organ smoothie yeah I think

50:25

the best thing to do , like you said , like I

50:27

chop , chop it up and then I just swallow

50:30

it yeah , that's what I do .

50:31

I usually will just kind of chase it with um

50:33

, like some coconut water , um

50:35

, and yeah , it

50:37

just kind of goes right down the hatchet . But uh

50:40

, you know , I think when you like

50:42

do some research anyone out there on

50:44

um beef liver and

50:46

just like you'll be kind of amazed at

50:49

, just pound for pound , how it's like wow

50:51

, this is the most nutritious item

50:54

in the world , right here , beef liver

50:56

.

50:56

Like you , just like can't , you can't beat it

50:58

, just like it's , it's there's

51:01

like a misconception though , like because

51:03

eric said the same thing that tom said

51:05

, like you're just eating the thing that filters

51:07

all the shit out of right , the body , yeah

51:10

, you know , but I don't think that the liver

51:12

keeps that yeah , it's like you're

51:14

literally like contradicting yourself , like the

51:16

thing that filters all the .

51:18

It's like so literally filters

51:20

it right , like gets rid

51:22

of yeah , that stuff

51:24

, you know , yeah , you get rid of it .

51:25

Yeah , you know , it's not like the liver just holds on to

51:27

all the fucking nasty pathogens and yeah

51:30

, I'm sure there might be some , but I don't

51:32

know .

51:32

I think like like

51:40

it's .

51:40

It neutralizes some of them .

51:41

Yeah , exactly right , due to the enzymes in the back . Yeah , the liver holds right

51:43

. So , yeah , I wouldn't put too much weight into it

51:45

, just like . No .

51:46

Yeah I don't really , and

51:48

this is just kind of where I'm at

51:50

. I don't like taking like advice from

51:52

people who of

51:56

where I'm at .

51:56

I don't like taking like advice from people who aren't healthy , yeah , or like aren't

51:58

like actually embodying and living the stuff that they're talking about . Right , you

52:00

know , yeah , so totally feel that , feel

52:02

you there , but , um , yeah , just outside

52:05

of that of what you know

52:07

, we kind of currently it's like that

52:09

. That's just like more of a snapshot

52:11

and um into it , but

52:13

it's like just know that

52:16

. That's like I

52:18

don't think there's one like ideal diet

52:20

out there , where it's like you know , like

52:23

human bodies are just so dynamic and different

52:25

and there's um like

52:28

so much like growing up in the

52:30

like the way the body

52:32

actually changes , and like like

52:35

the mental side of things too , how you actually like internalize

52:37

and like think about the food that you're eating . So , um

52:40

, like this is what I found , that

52:42

like I feel the best and most , like

52:44

you know , energized

52:47

and fulfilled with the way you know

52:49

I eat , um , but it might not be for

52:51

you . So I would say , like try

52:54

different things out , don't just , like

52:56

you know , keep doing what

52:58

you're doing , but like experiment

53:00

with things and like how do I actually feel

53:02

after eating this ? What is my mental state like

53:04

? How do I actually like interact

53:07

with people when I'm , you know , eating these

53:09

types of foods right , eating

53:17

these types of foods right . So I think that's that's one of um . The most important

53:19

things that I've really started to like understand over the past few

53:21

years is this is like a big like , experiment

53:23

of like okay , this is how I feel eating

53:26

this . This is how I feel eating this right and

53:28

like man . Maybe

53:30

I shouldn't be eating this like processed , like

53:32

cake or whatever , because I feel way better

53:34

when I'm eating this beef right .

53:37

I think it's trial and error , but also for

53:40

people that don't have the knowledge and

53:42

that don't know where

53:45

to look like

53:47

properly , do your own research and stuff like that . I

53:49

do think that possibly hiring

53:51

like a nutritionist or

53:53

I would say this , if

53:56

you have every I believe that people have like friends in their life

53:58

and their lives that are in shape

54:00

and are eating well . If you

54:02

don't have a friend in your life

54:05

who is doing well physically

54:08

, like in terms of their food and workout

54:10

, I think you should go find some you

54:13

know being around the people that

54:16

will influence you as good you know

54:18

like for for Brandon . Brandon

54:21

has worked really well with counting

54:23

his macros . He holds himself

54:25

accountable to that . That works

54:27

for him , right . Right , he probably

54:30

has specific foods that

54:32

he eats every week and meal preps

54:34

and stuff like that . But what keeps him

54:36

accountable is counting everything out . That

54:38

doesn't really vibe with me . You

54:40

know , whatever . If

54:44

counting everything out works for you , I say

54:46

, do it . If zero

54:48

to 100 cutting out all pleasure eating

54:50

works for you , do it . You know it's trial

54:52

and error , but don't don't give up . You know

54:55

, and , like we were saying earlier , like you

54:57

started running to

54:59

jump start your habit of changing

55:01

your entire life , right , you found one , one

55:05

exercise that you based the

55:07

rest of everything you did around . Right , and

55:09

when I got sober , that

55:12

was basketball for me . Right , I just

55:14

happened to get hurt more playing basketball than you

55:16

get hurt doing running , right .

55:18

So , but finding

55:21

one exercise

55:23

or activity that you

55:25

just love doing and then

55:27

just doing that , yeah , Right , yeah

55:29

, absolutely yeah

55:38

, absolutely Like maybe it's like playing volleyball or , you know , just doing something outside in nature

55:40

with friends , right , like whatever that is . That like really like

55:42

toggles your interest , like you

55:45

just go for it and do it and just like

55:47

you'll you'll never look back

55:49

. You know Like I think just going at things

55:51

with like childlike curiosity is so

55:53

important . Like man , like

55:55

just like man . How do I like get so stuck

55:58

in my ways as an adult where it's like man

56:00

, I only like this , I only do this , like

56:02

this , this , this . So it's like I

56:04

love like learning new games

56:06

or just like you know , trying

56:08

new things out . Like man , it's like one of the most like

56:11

energizing and cool things is

56:13

like how do I acquire more knowledge

56:15

or develop a new skill set in something

56:17

you know ?

56:18

Well , we get beaten down as adults , yeah

56:20

, and then we're just like I'm only going to do what's

56:23

comfortable to me , right , what I know

56:25

. I know I'm going to feel this way

56:27

after doing this and I'm going to keep

56:29

doing this . Right , because the unknown

56:31

is a scary concept . Right , keep doing this . Right , because the unknown

56:34

is a scary concept . Right , if you view it as a scary concept

56:36

.

56:36

Yeah .

56:36

Otherwise you can view it as something exciting

56:38

. Right , you know , and

56:40

you

56:42

know , venturing into the world of changing your life

56:45

for the better is a scary fucking

56:47

thing , Especially if you don't know what you're doing

56:49

. Yeah , you know . So if there's anything that I'd

56:51

like people to take away from this episode in

56:53

particular , it

56:55

would be really watch what you're eating

56:58

, watch how much you're eating and

57:00

really take a inventory

57:03

of how active you were in the last

57:05

seven days . You know , honestly

57:07

ask yourself if you even sweat . Some

57:09

people just don't like sweating anymore .

57:11

Right .

57:12

I feel grimy . Yeah , it's like dude . We're

57:14

humans .

57:14

Yeah , it's a natural response like sweating anymore . Right , I feel grimy . Yeah , it's like dude , we're humans

57:16

. Yeah , it's a natural response to the body

57:18

, right ? So it's like just try

57:21

and exercise more wherever

57:24

you are in your journey , like you're

57:27

just starting , you're in the thickets

57:29

of it , you're just

57:31

like in a good groove . Just

57:33

try and do a little bit more and see

57:35

what that feels like , like it's , it's

57:37

really powerful , just a little bit more .

57:39

Push your limits , yeah , so

57:42

I think we had a pretty , pretty

57:45

good episode . Do you have anything else that

57:47

you want to touch on ? I

57:49

actually wanted to ask you because in

57:51

this last like year you've been hurt a

57:53

few times , yeah , and then also you got

57:56

COVID .

57:57

Yeah , covid really did the number on me actually

57:59

. Yeah , second time I've had it . First

58:03

time it was like it was nothing . I

58:05

was pretty much asymptomatic , just took

58:08

a week off for running and was pretty much

58:10

back at it , you know . And

58:13

was pretty much back at it

58:15

, you know , and just in terms of

58:17

like injuries and kind

58:19

of like dealing with that

58:22

, it's a really like we talked about

58:24

tough thing , like get kind of a little bit

58:26

depressed , down on yourself like

58:29

this woe is me type feeling . But

58:31

, like I said , I think , just like understanding what

58:33

those pain points are for you and understanding how can

58:35

I quickly like like bounce

58:38

back from this and like learn from it . So

58:40

I'm conscious of it . So when

58:42

you know something like it happens again I'm able

58:44

to to not be as depressed

58:46

or down on myself , right , and instead I can use

58:48

that injury time to to really focus

58:50

and sharpen my own mental edge and my mental

58:53

, you know , um , fortitude Plus

58:55

. There's a lot of stuff you can do while

58:58

injured . That you know , just

59:01

stay in shape , like in running . You could do

59:03

a stationary bike or something like that , right . So

59:05

, um , but yeah , talking

59:07

about the COVID , so , yeah

59:09

, I get COVID like first week of December , so

59:12

that's what . So , yeah , I get COVID like first week of December , so

59:14

that's what . Four months

59:16

ago , right , um and uh , it was brutal

59:18

. Like I've never been that sick before

59:21

. Man , it fucking knocked me out

59:23

. Um , yeah , it was bad

59:25

. I don't know how the heck it hit me so

59:27

hard , but uh , yeah , I was pretty much

59:30

out for like two weeks and

59:32

uh , just this

59:34

piercing headache all day long

59:36

like just wouldn't go away , uh

59:39

, some chest pain , right , like

59:41

you know , the whole nine yards . And

59:43

week three comes along and I'm

59:45

finally like on the tail end of it and

59:48

like starting to recover , feel a lot better . And

59:51

uh , pretty

59:53

much didn't start running again until week four

59:56

and uh

59:58

, just did like very low

1:00:00

energy , just like kind

1:00:03

of chest painy , right , not feeling great

1:00:05

. That lingered pretty much into like

1:00:07

late

1:00:09

february , early march , right , yeah

1:00:12

, and like just struggle to

1:00:14

get through workouts , absolute

1:00:16

struggle . Um and

1:00:19

uh , it's like damn

1:00:21

, like you know . And then I

1:00:23

have everybody asking me how's running going , how you doing

1:00:25

, like how's this ? And like inside I'm

1:00:27

just dying . I'm like it's fine , like fuck

1:00:29

me like fuck me . you know , like

1:00:32

I don't want to talk about this shit , like I'm freaking

1:00:34

out right now , cause I might like be

1:00:37

like I don't know what's wrong with me . You know

1:00:39

, um and uh

1:00:41

that that that couple

1:00:44

months stretch was just such a struggle

1:00:46

and brutal like realization

1:00:48

that , like man , like maybe I

1:00:50

just like this is

1:00:52

this is what my body is now Like

1:00:54

, it's permanently like this and I'm like , wait , like

1:00:56

I can't think like that , that's fucked . Like

1:00:59

our bodies are so like like

1:01:01

fluid and can change

1:01:03

Right , and it's like if you think about it as like concrete

1:01:06

, then like you're , you're fucked

1:01:08

, you know . So I'm like I can't think like that

1:01:10

, like I can get back to where I was like

1:01:12

pre COVID , like for sure . You know

1:01:15

it's going to take a little bit of time , but I'm there . So , um

1:01:17

, the last month has been great , like

1:01:19

definitely feel

1:01:21

like , um , we're like almost

1:01:23

there . You know , still have slight like

1:01:25

like some slight chest pain and

1:01:27

um , you know , on the longer runs , but

1:01:30

, uh , for the most part , it's like you

1:01:33

know we're , we could , I could feel like

1:01:35

these next couple weeks , um , I'm gonna

1:01:37

be back , back and ready . So I'm

1:01:39

looking to race um in

1:01:42

either early or mid may is is the goal

1:01:44

right now . So , yeah

1:01:46

, really excited , like I said , just be back , I think

1:01:48

, um , you know , for me it's like

1:01:50

fuck , you

1:01:52

hate talking about it , like , but

1:01:55

at the same time it's like man , like like

1:01:59

I'm just like happy , like I'm just so

1:02:01

happy right now . You know , like I'm finally

1:02:03

like I'm finally like able

1:02:05

to talk about it because , like I could see

1:02:08

the light at the end of the tunnel now I could see

1:02:10

like , yeah , I'm like right there , I'm finally

1:02:12

like back to where I was .

1:02:14

so I could tell that you didn't want to talk about it during

1:02:16

those months yeah , you know , yeah

1:02:18

, you were like everybody's bugging me and

1:02:20

it's just like man .

1:02:22

I just want to deflect this shit , because it's

1:02:24

like I'm freaking out , you know . So

1:02:26

yeah , no , it feels great though that's

1:02:28

because , in the moment , despair

1:02:30

, yeah , fuck yeah

1:02:32

once it grabs hold of you , it's hard

1:02:34

to like , it's hard to get out of its grasp .

1:02:36

Man like we were talking about the whole , like first

1:02:39

part of the episode was very like positive

1:02:41

and we're like gotta take a step back perspective and

1:02:43

all that shit .

1:02:43

But like right , when you start to be really transparent

1:02:46

about it , like in those moments of

1:02:48

like , despair and anguish

1:02:51

and shit like that , like it's fucking tough

1:02:53

it is it really is , and it tests

1:02:55

every amount of your will and

1:02:57

your just like own like discipline

1:03:00

and understanding of , like what you truly want

1:03:02

to accomplish in life and with what

1:03:04

you're doing , and it's like man , if you

1:03:06

want to truly aspire to do like

1:03:08

great things . It's like you're

1:03:10

gonna go through these , these hard times

1:03:13

, and it's like how you respond to them and how you learn

1:03:15

from them and are able to like utilize

1:03:17

them to propel you forward and

1:03:19

to refine your own skill and your own

1:03:21

knowledge of being the best version

1:03:23

of yourself that you can potentially and possibly

1:03:25

be . It's like you've got

1:03:27

to be able to work through that and it fucking sucks

1:03:30

, you know . It sucks like literally

1:03:33

like trying to like run and work

1:03:35

out every day and not know like man

1:03:37

, I don't think I'll ever be able to like break

1:03:39

a four minute mile or I'll ever be able to get

1:03:41

back to the fitness I was in even a year ago

1:03:43

. Like it's just like not

1:03:46

there . I'm not having it . I don't know what

1:03:48

to fucking do , right ? So

1:03:50

, yeah , just being able to like

1:03:52

kind of filter those negative thoughts out and

1:03:54

those fearful thoughts and those like doubtful

1:03:56

thoughts and really just turn them around and understand

1:03:58

that like it's

1:04:01

like the body and mind's natural response

1:04:03

to when you aren't

1:04:05

getting the results and the desired

1:04:08

expectations of what you're , you

1:04:10

know , set out to achieve . Like , sure

1:04:13

, those fearful and doubtful thoughts are going to pop

1:04:15

in . But I

1:04:17

think you have to also like be able

1:04:19

to think with the rational side of

1:04:21

your brain and be like okay , like I'm

1:04:23

just not there yet , that's okay . Like we

1:04:26

just got to stick to it , we got to keep at it . Like

1:04:28

you know , if we can't

1:04:30

get back there after like a full year , then

1:04:32

maybe we're fucked . But

1:04:35

you know , you've

1:04:37

got to have that grace with yourself , like I said , and

1:04:39

understand that those thoughts are just the natural

1:04:42

response to not , you know

1:04:44

, kind of hitting those desired results

1:04:46

and expectations . Yeah , I think

1:04:48

, being like a little lenient with

1:04:50

yourself .

1:04:51

Yeah , because in the moment , you want to , like take

1:04:54

those fears and the thoughts and you want to make them

1:04:56

almost concrete

1:04:58

Right , you're like these are

1:05:01

set in stone , these fears , right

1:05:03

. And because you don't have the answers , right

1:05:05

, right , you don't have the answers , so

1:05:07

you're worrying about it . But in

1:05:10

order to make you feel better about

1:05:12

the moment , you almost solidify them . Yeah

1:05:14

, because you want an answer Right , right , yeah

1:05:16

. But I think , like , solidifying

1:05:19

those fears or trying to

1:05:21

, gives us a little like sense of

1:05:23

comfort . Right , because we get our answer

1:05:25

Right . Yeah , but that answer makes us depressed

1:05:27

, yeah . So I think , going through the

1:05:29

motions and being a little more

1:05:32

lenient with ourselves and , like you said

1:05:34

, like you

1:05:36

, you gotta , you gotta cut yourself some slack

1:05:39

at that point and now you're back to almost

1:05:41

back to where you want to be right in , the last

1:05:43

month's been good , you're like man . One more month and I'm gonna

1:05:45

be right back there again . Yeah , you know

1:05:47

, the body's , the body is able

1:05:50

to bounce back

1:05:52

better than we give it credit for , you

1:05:54

know . But the proper rest

1:05:57

and exercise

1:05:59

and food we put into it is

1:06:01

is key , right .

1:06:03

Absolutely A hundred percent .

1:06:05

So , uh

1:06:07

, I think , honestly I think that was pretty

1:06:09

good episode .

1:06:12

It's nice to be back on .

1:06:13

It's been a little minute so yeah , I was going to say

1:06:15

you haven't been in the new studio yet , right , yeah

1:06:17

, it's nice , I like it . Yeah , it's pretty dope

1:06:19

, sweet setup , man , oh man thanks , but

1:06:22

we're gonna leave it at that , you know . So , telling

1:06:24

people to watch what you eat , be

1:06:26

conscious of that , get a few good

1:06:29

, healthy physical routines in

1:06:31

place and , uh yeah

1:06:34

, chase your motherfucking dreams . So with that , y'all

1:06:36

know the drill . Stay up , feel

1:06:38

free .