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Kimberly Snyder founders, a Lunar New

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Mercy Loves and welcome to

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our Monday Interview show! This

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is a very potent time

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and spring and there have

1:01

been some incredible Lunar solar

1:03

eclipses and happenings happening out

1:05

there and I wanted to

1:07

bring back to the forefront

1:10

one of my when I

1:12

consider to be one of

1:14

the most important topics right

1:16

now and when a my

1:18

most favorite topics to talk

1:21

about in interviews. And

1:23

this is around the power

1:25

of the hearts, and specifically

1:27

around the power of heart

1:29

coherence. So the heart works

1:31

in all different ways, energetically,

1:33

spiritually, and scientifically physically. So

1:35

today I'm bringing back my

1:37

interview with Doctor Rolling Mccready,

1:39

who is the Director of

1:41

research at The Heart Math

1:43

Institute which has been doing

1:45

had been conducting research on

1:47

the connection between the heart

1:50

in the brain which is

1:52

vital. For Health and happiness for

1:54

over thirty years. Doctor. Mccready

1:56

has published hundreds of studies in

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the journal. The of American

2:01

Cardiology in many other

2:04

journals and. Research

2:06

isn't just around physical health,

2:08

it's about emotional well being

2:10

as about awakening the heart,

2:12

which is the gateway. To

2:15

the true self, to the spirit, to

2:17

the sole. Their

2:19

work has been so impactful

2:21

for me along with. The.

2:24

Work of Paramount Seal The non Dad

2:26

and my Voice is a Little horse.

2:29

Since the many

2:31

groups. Force on the

2:33

Street difference on. Talked about the power to

2:35

heart. And access point

2:37

to the trees test and my

2:39

books. Coming out this year are

2:42

of The Heart and The Heart

2:44

Math Institute. After the treaty. And

2:46

I since this recording had son

2:48

a hard line that it's he

2:50

sent study together with over thirty

2:52

participants in Los Angeles and we

2:54

found a twenty nine percent. Increase

2:57

in heart coherence. So I'm

2:59

going to be sharing about

3:01

opening the heart. In

3:03

My Next Adult Book Which then in September

3:05

Seven Seas. And. I

3:08

created a simplified version of the heart

3:10

that is going that is part of

3:12

our silica. relatively. give me more Thirty

3:15

two the Heart Children's Buffet is presenting.

3:17

Now we'll add a link in the

3:19

show notes. So The Heart has become

3:21

a huge focus on my work. I

3:24

believe The Heart. Is going to

3:26

bring humanity forward. Heart is

3:28

needed now to bring unity,

3:30

love, compassion, acceptance into the

3:32

world. We all know there's less

3:34

things going on right now that. We

3:37

never been solved by the mind

3:39

along. so please tune in to

3:41

our So today without her own

3:43

Mccready on the power of the

3:45

heart. And as you

3:47

listen to this some months ago

3:50

when we first aired at Please

3:52

Listen Again Because now that. You

3:54

on a different place your heart will receive

3:56

this podcast in a different way. To

3:59

either way, please. My podcast once

4:01

again that your own Mccready. The

4:03

power of the heart. While

4:06

and they do so much for being here with

4:08

me today! I am so excited to talk about

4:10

heart Math! And. All this groundbreaking.

4:13

Incredible wisdom you're bringing forward in

4:15

the world. And you

4:17

generally had some awesome to be here.

4:19

Really enjoyed Dell. Worried about your work

4:21

and or your books and everything. So

4:23

Clinton. Well, I started.

4:25

I heard about Heart Mass. I think

4:27

it was. you know, three books ago. Three

4:30

or four books ago, there's been a

4:32

lot Rollins I was. I was working on

4:34

a book with the thought so far called

4:36

radical Beauty and it was about dropping

4:38

in. It was in about our cornerstones. It

4:40

was about emotional intelligence and spiritual well

4:42

being and courses a cool well being and

4:45

I came across. Some of your

4:47

research really talking about heart

4:49

intelligence and heart coherence. And

4:52

I served to go down this rabbit

4:54

hole and I was really surprised at

4:56

first because usually when we talk about

4:58

always your work were taught about emotional

5:00

regularly said it's always the head in

5:02

the brain. Very linear by your

5:05

research has shown something completely

5:07

different. Crew.

5:09

Our when see completely different. Let

5:12

me start by saying as. Well.

5:14

Not down on the brain, I don't know

5:17

and. Neither

5:19

is an amazing organ and in all of

5:21

it's capacities and functions and I want mine

5:24

to work really well. Ah yes

5:26

you know So it was a we

5:28

are suggesting though is that there is

5:30

another. Type. Or dimension

5:32

of intelligence. And

5:35

in I have This reminds me of. A

5:39

doctor who is your former training programs while

5:41

been read the Prieto with them we do

5:43

trainees in person here and for him to

5:45

shifter you know both. Zoom world of certification

5:47

driven into. Own doctor needs to

5:49

be After signing of roy another some deeper,

5:51

the one one hear. What

5:54

You're talking about This training program and us.

5:57

To. The next sentence, What Is it. I

6:00

tend to be back a little bit. My. Daughter.

6:02

By the said, well. Dot. I don't

6:05

member's name now but. Think. It would

6:07

like this. Mind is spirit is to

6:09

heart. Like. Mind is to brain.

6:13

So. That the you know what our

6:16

research suggests since this is not new

6:18

has been in many of these say

6:20

spiritual teachings and things for millennia actually

6:22

is that we really have to hearts.

6:26

There's the physical, hard. right? And

6:28

and all a complex structures. It even

6:30

has its own brain anatomically but sanders

6:32

what we call our the energetic heart

6:34

or it's been called the spiritual hard

6:36

him in those traditions. And A.think

6:39

of it as dust. a bridge to our.

6:42

Or spirit or a large herself or higher self.

6:44

whatever you want to call it. That.

6:46

Is a real I'm suggesting is very real? This

6:48

is Not a metaphor. Dot. That's

6:50

when we email. we meditate. What are

6:52

we trying to access? It said deeper

6:54

part of ourselves. right at that Intuitive

6:57

intelligent said in her guidance system. situated

6:59

else. Yeah. And at one who

7:01

are we really see as at that other

7:03

dimensional level of our been this and this

7:05

is the and such separate from us. It

7:07

is us as part of us. It's or

7:09

in was David Bohm folded or undivided wholeness.

7:14

Is just a part of both in

7:16

that industry, the consciousness of the planet

7:18

we have learned and mass anyway, how

7:20

to access. That. Larger part of

7:22

herself by here in the density of earth,

7:24

yet. So. That's really what

7:26

heart matters about. It does tools, practices,

7:28

technology so allow us to us just

7:30

read that I had the needle up.

7:32

You will through the energetic to really

7:34

bring. The intuitive intelligence of

7:36

are larger self. Down. Into the

7:38

mind brain our day to day life. So

7:41

we start making choices are more aligned.

7:43

With. For are are are homeless what's

7:45

really does for us not really as what

7:48

unfolds who we really are in what are

7:50

true purpose in life is. As

7:53

we have learned, align with that that deeper part

7:55

of ourselves. What's great

7:57

about your research rollin is it's selling.

8:00

You actual data: Philadelphia Eagles Not

8:02

dismissed as a goal that sounds.

8:04

Really nice to lose. The scientific backing

8:06

i am one of the things you talk about in

8:08

your book is that the heart. Has it's own

8:10

nervous system. In. You explain a little

8:12

bit about that, how it links in with the. Overall

8:15

nervous system in the one linked to our

8:17

brain is yeah, so it's really can and

8:19

that. Is. Largely based on

8:21

the research and and work in

8:23

the field called neural cardiology. Andrew

8:26

activities or research groups very high

8:28

him in the scientists around world.

8:30

Now that really looking at the

8:32

anatomy. And function of

8:35

was technically called Kimberly the

8:37

Intrinsic Cardiac Nervous System now

8:39

the nickname Heart. Ranging from

8:41

them, money, This and

8:43

his are pretty hard for scientists right

8:45

have mapped out the anatomy to to

8:47

truly say that to heart has a

8:50

an independent functional brain. So.

8:52

There's these neural structures in the hard. As.

8:55

Are. Basically the same neurons that we haven't brain.

8:58

Loud. It's been proven that they

9:00

have short term memory, long term

9:02

memory girl plasticity, neurogenesis, all the

9:04

functions of.you would have ascribed a

9:06

brain. And here's the kicker. the

9:09

a lot of people. Even under

9:11

the sciences have been forgotten because this is

9:13

what about to say as been known since

9:15

the late eighteen hundreds and lot of the

9:17

original girl anatomy work is at the heart

9:19

since. far more information to the nervous system

9:22

to the brain than the rain since to

9:24

the heart. I know it's. Unbelievable. I

9:26

read that in the but I couldn't believe

9:28

what I was reading. Now was actually.

9:30

Really thought that which to that's

9:32

not general knowledge. For the way

9:34

that she was. And. Tell from

9:37

the late in fact the army you

9:39

probably know William James that name you

9:41

know the kind of the father of

9:43

cytology was the one of my he

9:45

of like minded my one on one

9:47

side communist sorts of yeah don't like

9:50

what were his. His teachers and practices

9:52

really dominated. Psychological practices

9:54

in the way people thought about

9:56

it does the emotions and the

9:58

body in the now. It always

10:00

interconnected. Ah bummer. Eighteen

10:02

eighties until the Nineteen thirties? So.

10:05

As I say, this is forgotten information. This

10:07

was well understood. Yeah that's

10:09

when into this is a time period

10:11

when the first are moments been discovered.

10:14

Rice. And a lot of must tell and

10:16

science. A lot of mistakes got me a lot of

10:18

assumptions. That. This is the era when the

10:20

pendulum swung does all about the brain. You

10:24

know and and metaphorically speaking they really believe this

10:26

for a while that as you can cut the

10:28

head off a new gym at the blood the

10:30

oxygen an easy it would do just fine. right?

10:33

That nobody do is that anymore For

10:35

but that dominated psychology for a long

10:38

time. When tell

10:40

really them eighteen Saturday's believe it

10:42

or not and of so that.

10:44

That. Some of the history here and in that

10:47

it was actually the discoveries. of the

10:49

heart deck cause that can look the

10:51

shift back to a more whole and

10:53

balanced perspective and it was researchers said

10:56

or seem very famous by the into

10:58

their career. Or. For ridicule when

11:00

they're first published or findings. That.

11:03

The it as shit. this time it

11:05

was believed that the the brain control

11:07

of everything in the body to stamps

11:09

who's tune right and the autonomic nervous

11:11

system is neural pathways between the brain

11:14

and body were decided. Dumb wires rioted,

11:17

Them to the brains, old, the body. What

11:20

to do? Labour. Started

11:22

observing that to heart in particular.

11:24

Made its own choices, So. I'd

11:27

like brain to be signals and in signals to the

11:29

hard for hurry to speed up but it would slow

11:31

down instead. Vice versa. If

11:34

they're actually writing that are than the writings of

11:36

that era. These researchers are talking about the horse

11:38

acting like good as a mind of it's own.

11:41

Wow and. Not.

11:43

Only that. They were

11:45

observing that to heart would make choices.

11:48

Before. The brain needed

11:50

to do with next action. To.

11:53

Facilitate the brain to be able to perform often

11:55

mean what is next thing had to be. How

11:58

this goes back to the seventy. And

12:00

they did. Are they introduced to terms

12:03

back then? I'd

12:05

use I'm still, but in August we're cortical

12:07

in on top of our brain. Those are

12:09

all of our brain. We get paid, go

12:11

to work for rights of facilitation. And

12:14

for legal inhibition. Of

12:16

dollars depending upon what messages to

12:18

heartless and into the brain. It

12:21

would either facilitate brain function. Or.

12:23

Inhibited. Wow.

12:26

So. Anyway, those are terms we

12:28

still carried forward so use. Said

12:30

you know amount of mechanisms and understand all

12:32

this now and they did that Then. Using

12:35

he all around that time the nineteen thirties,

12:37

his land as whole focus. On the

12:39

brain over sinking is so

12:41

linear really came into. Play because

12:44

if we read some of the ancient tax

12:46

even the Tao Te Ching a tall as

12:48

how it's on sale starts ancients and when

12:50

you first read it coming from our society

12:52

like what is lots you talking about, how

12:54

can I really function without sinking in? His

12:56

early talking about. Experiencing been.

12:59

He'll. Be in the moment. This into listen.

13:01

I think I'm. In. A weren't

13:04

worth or me to believe so much

13:06

that yields at the brain is is

13:08

the rational the better part of us

13:10

in this? The heart is wild and

13:13

has all these unbridled emotions right? but

13:15

Dehart massively searches selling out silly that

13:17

through creating. Heart coherence. We

13:20

can see more emotional regulation.

13:23

Yell. His innocence? yeah sure it

13:25

was before it to directly the

13:27

woods you're bringing up. Symbolism is

13:29

it goes back to the grease.

13:31

The infographic This. Dichotomy.

13:33

Between the rational parts of our

13:36

brain and in emotions, right? In.

13:38

Own emotions, the wild horses that had to be

13:40

reined in and all that, and that's a debate.

13:42

The still goes on to some degree with. Bed,

13:46

the the Nra science clearly

13:48

shows that the. Centers.

13:50

And our brain, that process of motion

13:52

are distinct and separate from the rational

13:55

thinking part. And

13:57

it's. In. Truth.

14:00

As. Were walking around. You know,

14:03

navigating daily life. It's emotions

14:05

that happens much faster than

14:07

thoughts. Alice

14:09

as we know this Now this is not

14:11

as theory, this is fact in a lot

14:13

of the thinking that we think we have

14:15

right. Or is really

14:17

trying to justify and soared through

14:20

what we already felt. Yes

14:22

and valid. Yeah. So

14:26

does the real answer? is we have to

14:28

integrate the to because a bucks have their

14:30

own type of intelligence. And

14:32

I don't I know you've done work and

14:35

written about emotional intelligence. it, but at the

14:37

floor of that worth it boils down to

14:39

our capacity to self regulate. And

14:41

control or impulses. And

14:44

be aware of our emotions and and so

14:46

on. So what about? what I'm suggesting here

14:48

is not that we just follow our emotions.

14:51

Because. I like to see don't suppose well or

14:53

if we just follow our thoughts in. a

14:55

lot of outdoor rationale is what gets us

14:57

and from a lotta times in or. Unbridled.

15:00

Ambitions and. Us

15:02

operations and in or out for me,

15:04

in of that kind of thing, So.

15:07

I'm really talking about regulating both

15:09

thoughts and emotions from a higher

15:11

point of intelligence. That.

15:14

Can Fly That really has the power

15:16

to finally bring the motions. Into.

15:18

Management. In. For the good

15:20

of our homeless and others as well. On

15:23

and and as well as our thoughts. May.

15:25

Have religious the world today. It's

15:28

a looping worry. right? The

15:30

mental fog, the tension and all

15:32

that is that. The separation blouses

15:34

separations a primary issue Animal Planet

15:37

right now supports both from are

15:39

are large yourself in or deeper

15:41

into the guidance and some others.

15:43

Know. The polarization and stuff for same which

15:46

is really a mind based. This.

15:48

That rational part of the brain And

15:50

snacks. From. The deeper. Aspects.

15:53

Of our in a version of deeper intelligence.

15:56

As way lines I got a separation.

15:59

This is mine. Created divisions.

16:01

And also there's a lot of

16:03

conversation around stress of course and

16:05

mental health. And against brain brain

16:08

brain, how can incorporating some of

16:10

your work with the heart health

16:12

some of this? ill stress this

16:14

discordant. Mental. Does

16:16

all these mentally ill mental? them?

16:18

Ideas. I would

16:20

say well sadly we we have lot

16:22

of training programs and the number one

16:25

reason that are brought into organizations. whether

16:27

that's hospitals and health care or corporations

16:29

or military we do a lot of

16:31

wordpress. A modern to say we develop

16:33

the of reasons for going for Us

16:36

Navy for their high stress operation. Wow.

16:39

Is. It's. Over me,

16:42

Back. Up just to her and say, well I'm

16:44

I'm going to suggest something that might be a little

16:46

radicals and that that is that. The. Largest

16:48

source of stress. And I

16:50

would I think we have on the planet. No

16:53

matter what soldier police system you

16:55

come from. Is the

16:57

separation between. The

16:59

Mind and the Zebra Hard. To

17:04

think I would invite you know what your

17:06

listeners on to. Maybe think back over the

17:08

past week even. Mighty

17:10

Men today. If. There was

17:13

something we'd been asked to do or thought

17:15

we wanted to do or should do ride

17:17

from are rational in a mental thing but

17:19

we just had a D Bruce see mean

17:21

that deeper into since then. Maybe that's

17:24

not the best choice. Yeah,

17:26

things are suffer right?

17:30

And and usually have resulted in a high

17:32

size twenty twenty. We look back and we

17:35

don't fall that deeper. That. Real,

17:37

deeper, intuitive sense. Usually.

17:39

We kind of realized who should follow that.

17:42

Enjoy sitting down a minute this more

17:44

times than not a plays out that

17:46

way. As. The stress.

17:50

You. Know as a safe word but what did

17:52

stress always boils down to a feeling and

17:54

an emotion. Yeah.

17:57

It is. They used to get their interest in the you

17:59

know, The for many years did

18:01

you do the surveys was the main source

18:04

of stress of the stress or for people

18:06

or the straps and heal our in the

18:08

United States or Europe it almost always was

18:10

time pressure. Ah,

18:13

right? We at times that lou the

18:15

questions are worded this way it was defined

18:17

the feeling. That. We're never have enough

18:19

time. Or. The

18:21

ceiling and I'm sticking to my

18:23

it's the emotional right? Yes, It's.

18:26

True, that's actually change and some of the more

18:28

recent surveys to be dealing with difficult people. Really

18:31

young as being one of the Genesis

18:34

use their separation and that polarization The

18:36

Spree been respected. But.

18:39

Stresses on it's the frustrations,

18:41

the anger, The. Anxiety

18:44

The see inner tensions we feel that

18:46

we we label on call it stress.

18:49

I. Did feelings of overwhelm? So.

18:52

The what while what I'm talking about

18:54

her what her mouth all about my

18:56

by taking a approaches infancy the heart.

18:59

And. Getting the heart rhythms, Into.

19:02

Our we call a coherent state that since a

19:04

very different signal to the brain. So

19:07

another doorway, and and that I

19:09

literally arming the nervous system. It's

19:12

bringing done neural structures in the

19:14

sink and a measurable way. That.

19:16

The brain interprets as oh, Everything's.

19:19

Okay, With Wellington

19:21

I has melted. Clingy, Slings

19:23

like talking about that were off

19:25

entire okay, get agitated or stress

19:27

and take. Some deep breaths. focus

19:30

on your brass com your body

19:32

and on your socks in your

19:34

mind. Sally's what you're

19:36

suggesting. With hard work and again

19:38

and the high intelligence ai different activities

19:40

in different answers into to another question

19:43

which we didn't talk about afterwards Or

19:45

the self created states, how is it

19:47

different going into your heart like. You

19:50

mentioned service? enter the heart vs Just

19:52

let me relax my. Bras. Voters.

19:55

A deep. Connection.

19:57

Between breath and the heart, In.

20:00

Fact this is the mechanism all share with

20:03

you why Brady techniques work. And

20:05

executives are taught everywhere everywhere

20:07

from Lamar's glasses to. relaxation.

20:10

Yoga, meditation. Also to scuba divers

20:12

on the notary. the suit better

20:14

right? Olympic Sports I mean, you

20:17

name it. They're

20:19

our own. Get into that. all that

20:21

anatomical details The Terrorists are neurons in

20:24

the lungs. That.

20:26

Fire. When we breathe in the

20:28

increased or fired raid and relax your fine

20:30

rate when we breathe out. So. Those neural

20:33

connections connect to the hard and up to the

20:35

brain. So what we can to

20:37

bust by looking at the rhythms of the hard

20:39

to tell exactly what somebody is really in rhythm

20:41

is and how deeds are breathing. Or

20:44

breeding where the modulates the rhythm of the

20:46

heart. I. Said. I said when

20:48

we choose right with that's something we can

20:50

consciously. Chains said that's normally an automatic thing,

20:52

right? I can choose to be a little

20:55

slower and deeper. Which

20:57

is what we naturally do when we're

20:59

feeling calm and relaxed or distilling safe.

21:09

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we've only breathe that slower. The for rhythm

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it's changing the rhythms of a heart which

24:07

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24:09

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24:11

the brain involved in emotional experience. Wow.

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heart Intelligent Spots The one of the things

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that I loved about the work was this

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idea of self generating. A So creating

24:29

a mole sense smells. Like

24:32

funny visualizing almost. I know there's some

24:34

research around that they discovered athletes and

24:36

different things visualizing the best out of

24:38

to kill each other. A little bit

24:40

about this practice news and able to

24:42

measure it scientifically. Rollins. Bringing it

24:44

here changes the signal to the brain

24:46

right? yes of reading. When we started

24:48

there are there was the first step

24:50

and and most of the hardness techniques.

24:53

Are not all but most is we call hard

24:55

so cause breathing. Better focus

24:57

of attention like this and of the chest. And.

25:00

On pretend we're breathing through their part of the

25:02

body Does As I just explained are breathing rhythm

25:04

affects the rhythm of heart. Me:

25:07

So that starts. That takes the

25:09

intensity out forms the nervous system.

25:12

Does the breathing parsons lot of benefit just

25:14

from their. However, If it

25:16

was less say that them. You

25:18

were theme and anxiety. or maybe a little. Angry

25:20

at someone right? Breathing will

25:23

take the intensity out. To say I grandma's

25:25

was right and yes I'm still really is

25:27

But if it was just about breathing we

25:29

would not be in the the burrow would

25:31

not be understated soon. As right.

25:35

My six year old to do they

25:37

still answer. Access to it does take

25:39

the intensity If we can remember to

25:41

do it right at the start. bring

25:43

a certain level of comparison. But.

25:45

At this level, one. Does

25:48

a whole other other systems the hormonal

25:50

system for example especially are energetic system.

25:52

that's a whole other topic on which

25:54

is really what runs the show. I

25:57

bought it. Is

25:59

we have the makeshift. There too. So

26:01

breathing can help you get to start the

26:03

process of getting literally more incense right? The

26:05

neurons are part of the brain. the activity.

26:08

but then we need to. Shift.

26:10

Or emotional state against and stress

26:12

beams about emotions and this can

26:15

be something really simple. Are

26:17

we we call it even just activate original

26:19

to ceiling such as somebody that Zealand you

26:21

have for somebody you care for. Her.

26:25

Are feeling of appreciation? Our gratitude isn't it?

26:27

are less than a That's really hard for

26:29

lot of people. When they

26:31

first started to work or even feeling.

26:33

Run. Some people are like of

26:36

doing it right. Yeah, was

26:38

looking into that? that that's keeping stuck in

26:40

the head? That's right, So. It

26:42

might be some some techniques, some

26:45

simple kiss. Him to help make

26:47

that chef. Is. Well remember

26:49

that see when you have if your pet owner,

26:51

when you come home and your cat jumps in

26:54

your lap or your dog breeds you with wagging

26:56

tales and can't wait to see you. That

26:58

feeling you have was as you like to read

27:00

and zealand. Or.

27:03

I to be that place in nature. That

27:05

you love to go. Whether it's Washington, the forests

27:07

are the ocean, Whatever

27:09

that is, what's it was. It's feel like

27:12

when you're there. Are some was

27:14

trying to visualize. been there are subject

27:16

to it's been really breathe that ceiling.

27:19

Now that does, starts energizing other other

27:21

systems in the brain and body to

27:23

come into a coherent and synchronization. And

27:27

as especially appreciation and compassion, these

27:29

are higher types of motions. They're.

27:32

Also opening that. In

27:34

Channel Two or Intuitive Heart. That.

27:37

Inch or the card. So now we're able

27:39

to access more a word or deeper into

27:41

and are indeed, A. With with

27:43

his wish and really that's really that. The

27:45

type of intuition it's really coming from are

27:47

Large herself. In you see that

27:49

Rollin Can you actually see parts of the brain? different types

27:51

of the plane? Light up with into a singling.

27:53

We are coming from this more

27:55

expanded place and rival I would

27:58

say we can see it. He.

28:00

And I was calls the don't know

28:02

what I'm talking about here but it

28:04

was so heartbeat about potentials. Now this

28:06

is a a kind of a high

28:08

level technique we use here in the lab

28:10

to trace the flow of information going

28:12

up to the nurse from the hard

28:14

to the brain and how it travels

28:16

to the different parts of the brain

28:18

both in location and time. Answer: Yes

28:20

You can clearly see that. I'll

28:23

tell you just breeze I want went

28:25

over the gory sensitive details. A

28:28

week. So. Many people talk

28:30

that have learned hard mouth insert

28:32

practicing their to coherence techniques and

28:34

the self regulation take these talk

28:36

about how they're intuitions on steroids

28:38

is just dramatically changed in and

28:40

second thing they say is and

28:42

synchronicity is served as intuition right.

28:45

Sorry. I'm going back to the

28:47

nineties. Embarked on a

28:49

few years steady them of measuring like

28:52

to physiologically intuition. And.

28:54

Specifically non local for like on on local

28:56

in to thousand there are three three types of

28:58

intuitions of maybe another time we can get into

29:00

those boots. Ah yes, I love that. Are

29:04

out in the book? Yeah? Are you. Into

29:06

another shell and installations that it's so useful

29:08

for people. To Zero. Be happy to can

29:10

really. Very. Brought was long

29:12

story short and these are rigorous studies

29:15

were measuring people's brain waves in their

29:17

electrocardiograms and skin conductance and out been

29:19

so the stuff. The one we found.

29:22

Was. That. The heart is.

29:24

The first system to get the

29:26

information about the future of it.

29:29

Sends. A measurably different neural signals to

29:31

the brain all before the future of

29:33

this happens. By.

29:36

Informing the brain. And then

29:38

nobody response. So. That's what

29:40

you see. I'm at right? Like the gut feeling but

29:42

it's really hard. brain and body image. You're paying attention

29:44

and if you have that, the ceiling of it. He.

29:47

Has you're on the back of a neck? So.

29:50

Where I Got Out Published by the Was in

29:52

the late nineties. In. Detroit Peer

29:54

Reviewed Scientific Journal right and. as

29:57

due to the i use the language at

29:59

the heart. During have access to

30:01

of deal with information outside the boundaries

30:03

of typical time and space. Is

30:06

less so I took it to get up

30:08

to the language in that era, right? As

30:11

for scientific journals, does things like this have

30:13

already been experimentally proven by non locality and

30:15

this kind of stuff at it when supposed

30:17

to haven't. Gotten. Hot, wet organ

30:19

to touch and only subatomic. That's

30:21

seen since then. And.

30:25

So. What am I really say know exists

30:27

and my coated we've seen into hard as

30:29

access to a field of information. And.

30:31

Or or spirit or large herself? Yes, really

30:33

what that is like which is the central

30:35

teaching of every great religion on the planet.

30:39

And also hard as the axis point two or. Three.

30:43

Make him a hijacker,

30:45

And you know my last book well unless called, you

30:47

are more than you think you are. It is about

30:49

yielding on as he sings about the South. Are you

30:51

familiar with your than and. I am indeed. Yeah,

30:54

it was. and enjoy. His book was

30:56

influential on me back in the night.

30:58

Early Nineteen seventies? likely? Yes. Yes, and

31:00

you know he's talking about this idea that.

31:03

We. See. Where. What we see

31:05

in the mirror and all these sensors and things

31:07

of that to the I see no that's what

31:09

we're saying that the that society is so. Brain

31:11

down the needed to days

31:14

everything so and in here

31:16

in quantitative philly be closer.

31:18

Cells, arsonists, our that into

31:20

listen This creativity is incredible

31:22

piece. When I'm doing the heart

31:24

mass practices rollins, I feel like

31:26

I'm going on. Me: I.

31:29

Try to explain. Like I'm getting down. May

31:31

have getting out of the head of medical. He

31:33

threw up. With you

31:36

are you are Yes! He only

31:38

this I can see some some personal

31:40

experience. It kind of just like these

31:43

are not separation holding onto these little

31:45

annoyances, it's just kind of melts into

31:47

this field of does any of this

31:49

stuff really matter A little in a

31:52

good doesn't matter. Is this love? His

31:56

connection. That. Indeed,

31:58

Whole presents a nation. Yeah

32:01

so did say today around we talk about

32:03

stress a little their faith in i

32:05

forget to disclose you can't solve a problem

32:08

with the same like in the same system.

32:10

Where the problem was created or something same

32:12

level as Einstein same will be okay. I.

32:16

Saw today. Again, there's there's

32:18

so much I'm. You

32:20

know there's so many issues I think

32:22

with the with said business holding on

32:24

said the recently said the Mental Stress

32:26

Mental Health Cel can some of these

32:28

heart mass techniques. It's good coming at

32:31

it from a different system. Let's see

32:33

someone's angry about something they're going to

32:35

talk. Therapy for twenty five years?

32:37

Is Sylvia leaving this trauma is

32:39

still angry at their mother father

32:41

from something from childhood. How can

32:43

we break out of these cycles?

32:46

World is exactly right. Bridge out of

32:48

them we have to interrupt the old

32:50

patterns and imagine garage door so on.

32:52

What? We call Baselines and now we get

32:54

stuck in the moon on com fredy patterns

32:57

and how the brain works will. Ultimately

33:01

I would say we have to reopen the

33:03

hard and get a rise above that it

33:05

had said morose on but earlier tix another

33:07

to level of intelligence to finally bring them

33:09

will be answered some thought into management. Now.

33:12

This very briefly in there isn't.

33:15

That. What inspired actually? we have a

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33:31

Deal with the Syrian refugees disaster or

33:34

them some other trauma were tons of

33:36

Syria on a nursery. A bitter. Of

33:39

the matter. The. And. The.

33:43

Work he was doing blew us away.

33:45

A free programs he created based on

33:47

her mouth and hard to hear it's.

33:50

One was for the children. these camps

33:52

to them as in his refugee camps

33:54

are detected that he said his pitchers

33:56

nice and I would never want to

33:58

send people. In addition. Come from

34:00

and living in mean just heart wrenching can

34:02

stop. It I

34:05

usually it's just a mother in in the the

34:07

that the younger children to read sled you know

34:09

and love. That. Blossoms. It's luster that

34:11

the male figure in In In the Family.

34:14

And. He outdated the data on

34:16

overnight hundred children that he had

34:18

worked with. A very brief intervention

34:21

based on our program for young

34:23

children. Actually, Al

34:25

Hartmann to time. And

34:27

in a symptom that the children's shows how

34:29

than than they did refugee camps was bed

34:32

wetting. That's. How the stress

34:34

manifested and with the and usually within

34:36

three weeks in it and will get

34:38

the numbers exactly right the something like

34:41

eighty percent. Out of these hundreds

34:43

of kids. Who sentence had resolved

34:45

within three weeks. Wow. And.

34:48

Some of the photos he presented before and after

34:50

just these. Beautiful. Young girls for

34:52

example, dirt on their face and. And.

34:54

That it is his gloved hands on your heart

34:56

and is just low you could see in the

34:59

photos. In the blue

35:01

before and after photos. And

35:03

any also had a program working with

35:06

the mothers help them and helps facilitate

35:08

that and at a program. A.

35:10

Deeper program for or torture.

35:13

Survivors of torture. Mile.

35:16

and in all cases the the speed by

35:18

which he was getting resolution of of as

35:21

i mean i'm serious drama on wednesday and

35:23

tortured items as all the different than than

35:25

some of the traumas waiting for hims here.

35:29

All. Those to be pretty. Still pretty

35:31

traumatic but matter again a matter of

35:33

weeks he people back to normal else

35:36

while and is it read up on

35:38

the I'd spend our time with them

35:40

after December. In some

35:42

of it's counterintuitive, what he was doing,

35:44

he basically said De Villiers words as

35:47

a there is no rebels, There is

35:49

no resolution of the trauma. Without.

35:51

Reopening Hard. Wow.

35:56

And. That's what each out what is programs are

35:58

focused on and the others. Not only

36:00

the. Success. But how

36:02

fast it worked was just blew us away.

36:04

That's what Inspired has decreed that are of

36:06

the know the program was on his word.

36:09

That's. Incredible. I. You

36:12

know, uneasy about legal and so these

36:14

difficult times I remember years ago I

36:16

lost my mom's and is it's in

36:18

the head is like i don't understand

36:20

this. This isn't fair. Why should this

36:22

happen? It's like the sauce, you can't

36:24

reconcile the thoughts we don't know. Every

36:26

sin sin don't have access but the

36:28

heart. Surgeon is the

36:30

heart is bigger at the

36:32

heart. Swords? Yeah well. the

36:35

hearts intelligent. Us

36:38

you're in. A lot of people have

36:40

this idea of the heart been this

36:42

mushy Valentine's Day think that's really not

36:44

the Harlem talking about. It

36:47

as a source of deeper intelligence. And

36:49

a lot of times to the hearts about

36:51

business it's about you finally gonna make some

36:54

changes. bring you know the mind under control

36:56

into alignment with with the higher principles. Yeah

36:58

he did. Sometimes we got to make choices, debate

37:00

with and or the man with and want to

37:02

make. And

37:05

in a part of the work is being able

37:08

to understand the i think as the chatter Deborah

37:10

Ross mineral in the books. He talks about it

37:12

today tix practice to understand when the heart is

37:14

speaking to you and guiding her versus the head

37:16

south about that. a little bit wrong. Because and

37:19

as I talked about until assistance is literally

37:21

the hell no. Illusion and frankly,

37:23

it does take some practice. Yeah.

37:26

And I can surely told stories what I

37:29

thought I was following my deeper intuition and

37:31

know it was the sneaky. Mind

37:34

in their one digit. It's way. Of

37:36

doing one of the the founder.children of her

37:39

that he whipped out allied on a

37:41

known bugs. Haven't forgotten it for quite a

37:43

while ago. but would I about the

37:45

mind as well lose customers? So.

37:47

I. Just really sneaky about.

37:49

you know, get Midway. And that's why we're

37:52

locked in three D for so long. But.

37:55

It but it feels different companies to

37:57

started really getting on the difference and

37:59

and then. Usually. The

38:01

hard intuitions can be more inclusive as can

38:03

have on an answer which usually bore out

38:05

of the box. But

38:08

at the same time I don't want to make it

38:10

sound like a size is great. big deal, new light

38:12

bulb kind of thing. And lot of

38:14

times. Where. What one of our technique

38:16

called freeze frame is really about a technique

38:18

of the out how to access the hearts

38:20

zebra intuition. And. We in. It's

38:22

amazing. We do and his training programs and in

38:24

five minutes we've got people. Are

38:26

getting inside to the real world problems

38:28

that is really in their face in

38:30

their life. That. Is due to

38:33

the As or whether the next forward movement. Or

38:36

more say, everybody every time. An amazing

38:38

ratio. And I've I've

38:40

learned special if I'm working in law enforcement

38:42

or first responder communities where after that exercise

38:44

in my brother and sales at how many

38:46

got an insight. Of

38:49

them this close arms. Nobody says anything. right in

38:51

on these male dominated but if I ask it.

38:54

Or. How many of you gotta gotta on

38:56

and in or prompting on? inside? There was

38:58

something you already had been hearing from your

39:00

deeper wisdom. Of. Before I

39:02

just didn't want to do it. But. Everybody

39:05

races or hand. I

39:08

saw it. Does it does. It's always. there's

39:10

just you know the modes, the. On.

39:14

The south to can. Shut. The

39:16

mind up long enough to listen. It's

39:18

ones are you? Know what would

39:21

you say? Ever yell. It's kind of general. Terms

39:23

and states are times when we talk about the

39:25

true self and the he tells me say. As

39:27

you the seat of their to salvage this emanations

39:29

and the higher in many ways to. Tricky

39:31

My the city brain is. Just.

39:35

Was exactly what I'm saying. It's

39:39

like only telling us this. that separation

39:41

see are there is a threat, you

39:43

should be more you're not doing enough.

39:46

Had had had. Yeah no I did.

39:48

They is really does the unbridled. Mind

39:51

without the balance and wisdom of the deeper

39:53

hard intelligence that is the biggest source of

39:55

stress. A ton of insane and know what

39:57

is against in trouble. With. It.

40:00

The eat ego. Well. I'm

40:02

not done on ego. I. Know when

40:04

I got. On it but sometimes it gets outta control.

40:06

I did all it's only. Elbow. Exactly. That's exactly

40:08

that's really don't want to on that

40:10

are moneygall basher but I am all

40:12

about bringing the he goes into alignments.

40:14

We needed ego and we need that.

40:16

While we tend to think of the

40:18

ago it's his own personality structures. It's.

40:21

Is really about bringing it into line with a

40:23

deeper. Or liberalism, Oberon of Our

40:25

Own Higher sell. So

40:27

am I said about something practical? Far community.

40:30

We have a lot of women. We. Have

40:32

a lot of questions about is not. Feeling

40:35

good and us an hour in this

40:37

world. As a lot of talk and

40:39

Instagram in comparison, it's. Always like not

40:42

doing enough or not pretty enough on

40:44

not skinny say in his head And

40:46

how can you share with us how

40:48

the intelligence is the heart can really

40:51

help us get sued These challenges that.

40:53

Cleats. So much suffering in the

40:55

modern world. Now I mean great

40:58

question and. Is on

41:00

scummy? The same answer? I. Know, But it's

41:02

the dishes little people need to hear Rolland

41:04

because I'm because the truth is there is

41:06

a solution outs at Yale. Sexy. We're always

41:08

trying to get more stuff by more products.

41:10

Sign up the outside and then it's you

41:12

get there and then it's never analysis by.

41:14

that's why I say it's clothes are not

41:16

going to solve the problems. Exactly. Consciousness.

41:20

Know is is you know from my. Or

41:23

immunized. Really appreciate beauty and I'm.

41:28

From. My perspective: both men and

41:30

women beauties from the inside out.

41:33

Yes, It. Has

41:35

everything to do with we haven't done in

41:37

addition month, but we really do have an

41:39

energetic sealed we can measure of us are.

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love collectors information. And.

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As so much to do with into their

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interactions, the really as as energetic communications going

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on, I'm getting totally off topic. Answer your

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question here. Is

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the you know? the. Is.

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Into another made it runs. Interview.

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We can do some time, but I was what I

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love baselines to so much of. Of

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our beliefs cannot wait to which

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us directly sex how we perceive

42:11

ourselves and the world. Has

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to come with this car programming. Of

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our brought up the ads were seen

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on Tv or so on. It is

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created and basically an answer a subconscious

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programming. Dad. So

42:27

self comparisons comparison with others. So.

42:29

Nonsense. Yeah Really? But.

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It but at the a decision to say. Said.

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Not so easy to reset that

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system. And. That that is gonna

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be again my answers and be when once

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we align with who we really are. that

42:44

deeper part of our own intuitive intelligence. Dust.

42:46

Are springing into clarity. A

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We really are. Yes, A

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year or whatever our body tight is in

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one in or hair color is and we

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look like and that has. So

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much to do with what we bring to

43:00

the world and especially energetically. What?

43:03

What? We're feeding her? field? So

43:05

it's and with scissors the same answer

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it's really open heart into a light

43:09

is when we connect with that deeper

43:12

polymer of her undivided self. That.

43:14

Is to do with who we really

43:16

are yes for and then really starts

43:18

to unfold. And. Segments are

43:20

are true purpose. And of

43:23

why we're here does time around on the planet.

43:26

And personal mission is and what

43:28

a who are supposed to meet

43:30

and alignments. He

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linked when the Lord told Moses I. Am

43:34

that I am in a T

43:36

confidence. It's not on not confident just because

43:38

I am having a gray. Haired age

43:41

I lost five pounds but

43:43

I'm just living breathing. you

43:45

need manifestation of spirits exactly

43:47

fit an unapologetically I'm here.

43:49

The eyes in along with

43:51

that sums of self confidence.

43:53

Is. Abscess the confidence to don't

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really know. I just

43:58

said to really know that will. Can

44:00

handle whatever comes our way. Whatever we

44:02

draw from life. That

44:04

we can handle. We're going to have to do

44:06

it anyway. Yes,

44:10

that was one of the things I

44:12

well my notes on the heart mass

44:14

techniques really helpful for seer and overwhelm.

44:17

Made this resilience that so important to get

44:19

so life only drop into the zebra place.

44:22

And in really helped to create that

44:24

coherence and regulation it allows us to

44:26

go forward. And that

44:29

still he gets earth leisurely. A hunting

44:31

was nine years of the soon in

44:33

the what I'm learning do to get

44:35

in. There are only bird intelligence for

44:38

intelligence is not solely magically change the

44:40

outside world, but it's certainly and dramatically

44:42

concedes. Our perceive it it in

44:44

our ability to flow through day to day

44:46

life with more Greece needs. And.

44:49

Eyes and I say that I don't see that thousand

44:51

acres. I just how tough it is for lot of

44:53

people right now. On. On

44:55

the planet. Habits. Are still

44:57

as ways that we can deal with whether

44:59

it's we're dealing with Last Sawers. a lot

45:01

of the many challenges people have. Almost

45:04

no of place of and in or

45:06

security that the do and we're going

45:08

to get through it did let let

45:10

us know that and the also bring

45:12

in more than two the intelligence of

45:14

the choices to make it through the

45:16

challenges that we have exactly as as

45:18

really what it's about. His promises Very

45:20

practical. it's about navigating day to day

45:22

life. Is practical because I think

45:24

when you get overwhelmed, it feels. Constructed in

45:26

wages. And then the higher intelligence

45:29

is. That it ever does

45:31

sound. The Up where you heard about

45:33

him about the cortical facilities and there's

45:35

a better range, wider range of better

45:37

choices. A

45:41

technicality around I could literally talk to all

45:43

day. I look forward to have you back

45:45

on because we didn't even talk about the

45:47

Lexus. oh message, acidic frequency and any other

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things state your work is so amazing while

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and tell us how we can learn more

45:54

about heart mass and the techniques. Are

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Global Coherence Initiative. And this is

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really where we're lucky that for hims

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and a global scale the measuring the

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our scientists are we talking about a

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new project that we've inherited? It's really

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exciting the global crisis as project in

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for know. Ah on that first day.

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is when my my own are actually

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soothe you and your than your audience

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can do it again sometime. Google what a topic

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really didn't even touch and yet only. Got. A

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