In this episode Hope and Sandy chat with Vic North, creator of Bird Kitchen Clothing -- a clothing line of work wear for women cooks and chefs.  They talk about life as a "homebird" during quarantine, the unique curves of a female body, and reclaiming language that turns women into animals (why so many bird nicknames?!). Hear from Vic about the results of a survey + interview project on women in the food industry that eventually inspired the creation of Bird Kitchen Clothing at Vicnorthfoodnotes.com