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3. Uncertainty and Trump

Released Tuesday, 13th June 2023
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3. Uncertainty and Trump

3. Uncertainty and Trump

3. Uncertainty and Trump

3. Uncertainty and Trump

Tuesday, 13th June 2023
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US President Donald Trump wades into the Covid origins debate.

It’s April 2020 and at the podium of the White House’s press room, Donald Trump makes a geopolitically incendiary claim: he has a high degree of confidence that the origin of the virus that causes Covid is the Wuhan Institute of Virology - a Chinese government lab. But scientists seem certain that can’t be true. So what is the evidence for both claims? And what were the scientists publicly dismissing a lab leak saying in private?

Archive: The White House; C-SPAN; CBS.

Presenter: John SudworthSeries producer: Simon MaybinEditor: Richard VadonSound design and mix: James BeardCommissioning editor: Dan ClarkeScience advice: Julian Siddle and Victoria GillExtra production: Eva Artesona and Kathy LongResearch support: Zisheng Xu and BBC MonitoringProduction coordinators: Siobhan Reed, Helena Warwick-Cross, Sophie Hill, and Debbie RichfordTheme and original music: Pete Cunningham, with trumpet by Joss MurrayRadio 4 Editor of Editorial Standards: Roger MahonyHead of BBC News - Long Form Audio: Emma Rippon

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