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the very , very first thing you need to do is
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identify your story's content genre
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. Once you know your story's main
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content genre , you can dig in and find
0:55
those obligatory scenes and conventions that readers
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are going to expect to see in a story like
1:00
yours , and then deliver those in your
1:02
story in a new and exciting way . This
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is what's going to help you craft a story that works
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. Welcome
1:10
to the Fiction Writing Made Easy podcast . My
1:13
name is Savannah Gilbo and I'm here to help you
1:15
write a story that works . I
1:17
want to prove to you that writing a novel doesn't have
1:19
to be overwhelming , so each week
1:21
, I'll bring you a brand new episode with simple
1:23
, actionable and step-by-step strategies
1:26
that you can implement in your writing right
1:28
away . So , whether you're brand new to writing or
1:30
more of a seasoned author looking to improve your
1:32
craft , this podcast is for you . So
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pick up a pen and let's get started . In
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today's episode , we're going to talk about obligatory
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scenes and conventions and , specifically
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, how to find the obligatory scenes
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and conventions that readers would expect
1:48
to see in a story like yours . But
1:50
before we get into definitions and specifics
1:52
, I just want to do a little thought exercise , so
1:54
play along with me as we imagine this scene
1:57
. Let's pretend you're in a bookstore and
1:59
you walk over to the romance section
2:01
, and let's say that you grab a random book
2:03
off the shelf full of romance novels
2:05
. What would you expect from the
2:07
book in your hands before you even read
2:09
the first page ? Your answer
2:11
might include things like a scene where the couple
2:13
first meets , or a budding romance
2:15
between the two main characters , maybe
2:18
even a first kiss or more , depending on the
2:20
heat level and eventually you would probably
2:22
expect to get the answer to whether or not
2:24
the couple gets together by the end of the
2:26
story . Does any of that sound like
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what you would expect from a romance novel ? I'm
2:31
going to assume so , and we'll keep going with
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the example . So let's now imagine
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that you bought that romance novel , you took
2:37
it home and you started reading it , but
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it was missing one or more of those things
2:42
that you expected to see . So , for example
2:44
, maybe the focus of the story wasn't on
2:46
the budding romance between two characters
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. If you were expecting that and you wanted to read a
2:51
romance novel , would a story like
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this satisfy you or would it leave
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you disappointed ? If you're like most
2:57
readers , I'm guessing you would feel disappointed
3:00
, confused and probably pretty unlikely
3:02
to recommend that book to your friends . So
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in today's episode I want to talk about how
3:07
to make sure your readers don't have this experience
3:09
with your story . So we're going to look
3:11
at obligatory scenes and conventions , we're going
3:13
to talk about what they are and then I'm going to
3:15
share an exercise to help you uncover exactly
3:18
what readers will expect to see in a story like
3:20
yours . Now , for the purpose of today's
3:22
episode , we're going to say that a story quote
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unquote works when it delivers on
3:26
and maybe even exceeds a reader's expectations
3:29
. So this means the very first thing we
3:31
need to figure out is exactly what a
3:33
reader would expect from a story like ours
3:35
. Right , and you won't be able
3:37
to do this if you don't know what kind of story
3:40
you're writing . So the very , very first thing
3:42
you need to do is identify
3:44
your story's content genre . I have
3:46
a whole episode on how to do that . It's episode
3:48
number two . I will link to that in the show notes
3:50
. But that's the very first thing . Once
3:53
you know your story's main content genre
3:55
, you can dig in and find those obligatory scenes
3:57
and conventions that readers are going to expect
3:59
to see in a story like yours and
4:02
then deliver those in your story in a new and
4:04
exciting way . This is what's going to help
4:06
you craft a story that works . Okay
4:08
, so we're going to go over some definitions in a second
4:10
, but I want to say really quick I did not come up
4:12
with these terms of obligatory scenes and conventions
4:15
. This is something I learned from studying
4:17
the work of Robert McKee . He talks about
4:19
this in screenwriting , and then Sean
4:21
Coyne , over at the Story Grid , adapted this into
4:24
a method for novelists . So if
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you do want to go deeper into learning about these things
4:28
, definitely go check out Robert McKee's book
4:30
Story or Sean Coyne's book the
4:32
Story Grid . Now , without further ado
4:34
, let's go over some definitions and we're going
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to start with conventions . So
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conventions are a reasonably well-defined
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set of character , roles , settings and
4:43
circumstances that are specific to a
4:45
genre , so they're things that the readers
4:47
will intuitively expect to be in a work of
4:49
genre fiction , whether they consciously
4:52
realize it or not . Obligatory
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scenes , on the other hand , are the key events , decisions
4:56
and discoveries that move the protagonist
4:59
along their journey from A to Z . So
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these key scenes are what's going to help
5:03
you evoke emotional reactions in the
5:05
reader and , when coupled with your genre's conventions
5:07
, they're going to help you give the reader the experience
5:10
they're looking for . So , as an example
5:12
, let's just pretend a reader has chosen
5:15
a murder mystery novel to read . They're
5:17
probably expecting to feel intrigue
5:19
as they work to solve the puzzle , right alongside
5:22
the sleuth or the cop . Right In
5:24
the beginning , they'll expect to see a scene
5:26
where the dead body is found , because it's a murder
5:29
mystery . At the middle they're going
5:31
to expect to uncover clues and learn
5:33
new information . And then , towards the
5:35
end , they'll expect to see a scene where the identity
5:37
of the murderer is revealed and by
5:40
the last page they'll expect to know whether that
5:42
murderer is brought to justice or not
5:44
. Okay , so this is just another
5:46
example of you know the key scenes and
5:48
conventions that readers are already expecting
5:50
when they go to a story of
5:53
a certain genre . So something
5:55
like a master detective that's a character role
5:57
right , that would be a convention of the crime
5:59
genre . Something like that
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detective discovering the dead body
6:03
. That would be one of your key scenes or
6:05
obligatory scenes . Okay , now
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, beyond the obligatory scenes and conventions
6:10
of your main genre or your global
6:12
genre , there are going to be things that
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your readers expect from your commercial
6:16
genre as well . So let's take
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the same example of the murder mystery and say
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that you're writing a gothic murder mystery
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. Readers of a story like this are going
6:25
to expect the story to be set in
6:27
or around an ancient castle in
6:29
the 19th or the late 18th century
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. Right , that's what would make it a gothic mystery
6:34
novel . If you're writing something like
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a supernatural romance , then readers
6:38
would expect all of the key scenes and conventions
6:40
of the romance genre , plus
6:43
those supernatural elements and settings . Now
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, these things might sound simple or obvious to
6:48
you , but you would be surprised how many drafts
6:50
I see that don't include these genre-specific
6:53
elements or scenes that readers are expecting
6:55
to see . And when a story
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doesn't include these key scenes and conventions
7:00
of its genre , it's just not going to work
7:02
. So now that we know what
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obligatory scenes and conventions are
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, the next question is how do I find
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the obligatory scenes and conventions of my
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genre ? And if you've been in the writing
7:13
world for any amount of time , you've probably
7:15
heard the advice to read more . And
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this is solid advice , because by reading more
7:20
, you're subconsciously going to absorb all
7:22
of the different aspects of your genre , and
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the more you read in your genre , the more these things
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will become automatic when you outline
7:28
and write your next novel , you're going to
7:30
be able to see how other writers handled
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those obligatory scenes and conventions
7:35
in your genre , which tropes have been done
7:37
to death and so much more . So that
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is my primary advice to read
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more . But beyond that , there are three
7:44
steps you can take to uncover the obligatory
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scenes and conventions of your genre . And
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step one is to identify three
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to five comp titles or comparable
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titles . And these are stories like yours
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that would sit on the same bookshelf . So
7:58
, assuming that you already know your story's
8:00
content genre , I recommend finding
8:02
three to five books or movies that are similar
8:04
to the story you're writing , that are also
8:06
in that content genre . So
8:09
, for example , let's say that I was writing a young
8:11
adult coming of age romance , I
8:13
might identify these three books as my
8:15
comp titles . So number one , the Fault
8:17
in Our Stars by John Green . Number
8:19
two , everything , everything by Nicola Yoon
8:22
, and number three , simon vs the Homo
8:24
Sapiens Agenda by Becky Albertalli
8:26
. So that's step one , just identifying
8:29
three to five comp titles . And if you're having
8:31
trouble figuring out what genre you're
8:33
writing in or what your comp titles are , I
8:35
don't want you to give up . It is worth the
8:37
time and the effort to figure it out , and you
8:39
can even work with a developmental editor
8:42
or book coach if you need one-on-one assistance
8:44
. But you can ask yourself what story
8:46
am I really trying to tell here ? So
8:49
focus on that main storyline , find
8:51
similar stories to the one that you want to tell
8:53
and then figure out what the genre of those
8:55
three to five stories are . And
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then , just by going through the rest of the steps that we're going
8:59
to go over now , you're going to learn so
9:01
much about your story and build a really awesome
9:04
framework . So it is totally worth the effort
9:06
. Okay , so that's step one identify
9:08
those comp titles . And then step two
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we want to figure out what your comp titles have
9:12
in common . So as you read those three
9:14
to five books that you've chosen , or watch
9:17
the movie version of those books because that
9:19
counts too I want you to write down everything
9:21
you notice that they have in common . So
9:23
think of this list that you're creating as the
9:26
first draft of your obligatory scenes
9:28
and conventions . You're going to edit and refine
9:30
this list later as you go through each
9:32
of your comp titles . Then , once you're done , you're going
9:34
to organize your notes into scenes and conventions
9:37
and then you can summarize and combine those
9:39
notes where appropriate , to get a
9:41
statement that expresses the idea in a generic
9:43
way in as few words as possible . So
9:46
let's say that you're watching these movies or reading
9:48
these books and you notice there's always a scene
9:50
in a romance where two characters
9:52
come together and meet for the first time . You
9:54
might write something on your list like the two characters
9:57
meet or something like that , just a short
9:59
little generic phrase . And the goal of this
10:01
is to create a list that you can easily
10:03
work with and apply to other stories
10:05
. So it's not to come up with the most perfect
10:07
list . Okay , as you read more
10:09
books in your genre or watch more movies
10:12
, you can continue to refine this list
10:14
, making changes or deleting things as
10:16
needed . So that's step two
10:18
. Step number three
10:20
is to refine your list of obligatory
10:22
scenes and conventions . So once you've
10:24
read all the books or watched all the movies and
10:26
made your list , it's time to refine that
10:28
list and complete your final list of obligatory
10:31
scenes and conventions . So you
10:33
want to ask what character , roles , settings
10:35
and circumstances do all of your comp
10:37
titles have in common ? Those will
10:39
be your conventions . And then you want to ask
10:42
what scenes do all of your comp titles
10:44
have in common and which ones had the most
10:46
impact . These are going to be your obligatory
10:48
scenes . Now , yes , this is
10:50
going to take time and , no , this is not
10:52
actually button chair writing . However
10:56
, the depth of insight and knowledge that
10:58
you're going to gain from studying stories
11:00
in your genre is going to be huge
11:02
. It's going to give you a better understanding of
11:04
how to craft a story that works and delivers
11:06
on reader's expectations . Plus
11:09
, once you've done this exercise for multiple stories
11:11
, you're going to have an invaluable reference kit
11:13
for all the stories you write in the future , and
11:15
that is a pretty neat thing to have . If
11:17
you ask me Now , if you've been listening to
11:19
this podcast for any amount of time , you know
11:21
that I've done a lot of this work to uncover
11:23
the obligatory scenes and conventions of
11:25
each genre already . I'm going
11:28
to link them in the blog post that goes along
11:30
with this episode . You can find the link
11:32
to that in the show notes . But remember , unless
11:34
you have seen these obligatory scenes
11:36
and conventions in action , a
11:38
list can only help you so much . Okay
11:41
, you need to see how other writers have tackled
11:43
these scenes and conventions and then
11:45
also experience them as a reader or
11:47
a viewer would to really understand
11:49
why they're necessary and why they matter
11:51
. So I do have those available
11:54
for you on my website , but I still recommend
11:56
going through this exercise to really internalize
11:58
them and cement them in your brain . Now
12:01
, with all of this being said , you might be wondering
12:03
well , what about science fiction and fantasy
12:05
? You've done a lot of the genres
12:08
on this podcast before and I haven't heard
12:10
you go over the obligatory scenes of science
12:12
fiction , fantasy or even historical
12:14
fiction . And if you're wondering this , then
12:16
I do want you to go back and listen to episode
12:18
number two , where I talk about the difference between
12:21
content genres and commercial genres
12:23
, because fantasy and science fiction
12:25
and even historical fiction , those
12:27
are commercial genres or consumer-facing
12:30
labels . Okay . So fantasy and science
12:32
fiction and even historical fiction , they
12:34
will definitely have their own set of requirements
12:37
and rules that need to be followed in order
12:39
to satisfy readers . For example
12:41
, in fantasy stories , there's usually some
12:43
kind of magic , maybe even a mentor
12:45
character and a lot of world building
12:48
, right . But as writers , what we need
12:50
to identify is what kind of story
12:52
happens within that fantastic or
12:54
magical setting . So this is why
12:56
you need to know your story's content genre
12:58
. Your fantasy or science fiction story
13:01
needs to include the key scenes and
13:03
conventions of whatever content genre
13:05
best suits your idea . So , for example
13:07
, you can have an action story set in a fantasy
13:09
world , a romance that takes place
13:11
in outer space , or any combination
13:14
that you want If you are writing science
13:16
fiction or fantasy . I have another episode
13:18
I want you to go check out . It's episode
13:20
number 95 , called how to Start Writing
13:22
your Science Fiction or Fantasy Novel , and
13:24
we will link to that one in the show notes as well
13:27
. Another question I get asked when I talk
13:29
about obligatory scenes and conventions
13:31
is won't using these as a framework
13:33
stifle my creativity or won't
13:36
this make me write a formulaic novel ? And
13:38
my answer to this is always no , and that's
13:40
because figuring out how to present
13:42
the obligatory scenes and conventions of
13:45
your genre in a new and innovative
13:47
way actually requires a lot of creativity
13:50
and imagination . So , as an
13:52
example , just think about Agatha Christie
13:54
. Right , she writes Amazing Mysteries
13:56
. She took a tried and true convention
13:58
of the crime genre , which is a master
14:00
sleuth , and innovated on that
14:02
convention when she created her amateur
14:05
sleuth , miss Marple . So she
14:07
didn't eliminate the central clue hunter
14:09
from her story , she just changed
14:11
the personality and the background of the investigator
14:14
and came up with something new . So
14:16
she abided by the convention but delivered it
14:18
in a really new and fresh way . And
14:20
the cool thing is is that you can do this too . So
14:22
once you learn the obligatory scenes and
14:24
conventions of your genre , you can
14:26
use them as a framework to craft your story
14:28
and then , inside that framework , you can
14:30
take whatever you need from those more traditional
14:33
quote unquote rules of the genre
14:35
and innovate them by adding your
14:37
own preferences , experiences , values
14:40
, worldview , etc . Right , this
14:42
is the really fun part about writing genre fiction
14:44
. And something else I get asked all
14:47
the time when talking about obligatory scenes
14:49
and conventions is how do I handle them
14:51
for subplots ? Do
14:53
I have to write all of those on the page
14:55
? Do I have to include them all in questions
14:57
like that ? Now , the obligatory scenes
14:59
and conventions of your story's main
15:01
genre or your global genre
15:03
, those do have to be on the page . So
15:06
, in other words , these moments or those conventions
15:08
, they can't happen off page where the reader
15:10
can't see or experience them . And
15:13
that's just because your readers have signed up for a
15:15
particular reading experience . Right
15:17
, if you leave out the key elements
15:19
of the story they expect to see or put
15:21
them off the page . It's likely
15:23
going to be a disappointing experience
15:25
. But speaking to subplots
15:27
, specifically the obligatory scenes and
15:29
conventions of your subplots
15:31
, those can happen off page and
15:34
or be alluded to on the page , so
15:36
readers don't always have to see them exist
15:39
or unfold in real time , although
15:41
they certainly can , but what we want is
15:43
to know that they are there , even if we didn't
15:45
see them unfold in real time . Okay
15:47
, so , for example , if you have a romantic subplot
15:50
, you don't necessarily have to have
15:52
a scene where the lovers first meet , but
15:54
you do have to let the reader know that they've met
15:56
and kind of how they've met . Right , we need
15:58
to know that context and this can be
16:01
included through a conversation , a
16:03
flashback context in a different
16:05
scene or things like that . So
16:07
hopefully , this episode gave you a nice
16:09
little overview of obligatory
16:12
scenes and conventions , why they're important
16:14
, how to find them for your genre and things like
16:16
that , and we'll do a really quick recap
16:18
before I let you go . So the first key
16:20
point is that in order to write a story that
16:22
works , we do need to include the obligatory
16:24
scenes and conventions of our story's primary
16:27
content . Genre Conventions
16:29
are the character , roles , settings and circumstances
16:32
that are specific to a genre and
16:34
obligatory scenes are the key moments
16:36
, decisions and discoveries that move
16:38
the protagonist along their journey from
16:40
A to Z . And including all the conventions
16:43
and obligatory scenes of your genre is
16:45
going to help you give the reader the experience they're
16:47
looking for and write a story that works
16:49
. Key point number two we talked about
16:51
three steps to finding the obligatory
16:53
scenes and conventions of your content genre
16:56
. So step number one was to identify
16:58
three to five comp titles or
17:00
stories like yours that would sit on the same
17:02
bookshelf . Step two was figuring
17:04
out what those comp titles have in common
17:06
. So , remember , we want to make a list . And
17:08
then step number three was refining that list
17:11
into one list of obligatory
17:13
scenes and conventions for your primary genre
17:15
. And the last key point , or key
17:17
point number three , is that using these
17:19
obligatory scenes and conventions is
17:21
not something that's going to stifle your creativity
17:24
or make you write a formulaic novel
17:26
. Instead , they're really just there to help
17:28
you write a story that works and give you a container
17:31
for your ideas . And then it's up to you to bring
17:33
your creativity and your imagination
17:35
to that framework . So
17:38
, remember , we always want to be including those key
17:40
scenes and conventions , but delivering them in
17:42
a new and innovative way , and
17:45
what this all boils down to is that if
17:47
you don't do the work to understand your genre
17:49
, then you are going to have a hard time getting
17:51
your book into the hands of readers , and
17:53
without readers , your story will never be experienced
17:56
, which is probably a terrible thought to most
17:58
of us , right ? So to avoid this happening
18:00
, know your genre and give your readers what
18:02
they're expecting in a new and exciting
18:05
way , and if you give them the emotional experience
18:07
they're looking for , you will earn loyal
18:09
fans for life , which is what most of us
18:12
want . So hopefully you enjoyed
18:14
today's episode . We will link to the other episodes
18:16
mentioned in the show notes and I will see
18:18
you same time , same place next week . So
18:23
that's it for today's episode . As always
18:26
, thank you so much for tuning in and for showing
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of the links I mentioned in this episode
18:32
, you can find them in the show notes , listed
18:34
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