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It's one step away like a five-a-side penalty. Right

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pocket full of cards, I'm a referee. I'm

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Rick Edwards and this is Fighting Talk. Good

0:31

morning and welcome to the show that

0:33

would not dream of alienating a huge sex

0:35

in its fan base by making a massive

0:37

and unpopular change. And just to be

0:39

clear, that is a joke about FA Cup

0:42

replays being abolished and the replacement of

0:44

Colin Murray. I would also like to quickly

0:46

apologise to the Man City fan who this

0:48

week said that on the breakfast show

0:50

I was, quote, gloating too

0:52

much about City's exit from the Champions

0:54

League. He said I was being, again,

0:57

quote, nauseating, not entertaining, and went on

0:59

to observe that licensed fee payers demand

1:01

better standards from the people we pay for.

1:03

Absolutely right. So I'd like us all to just

1:05

take a moment to consider just

1:07

how very funny Bernardo Silva's

1:09

penalty was. Hopefully

1:12

that has smoothed things over. Now let's get

1:14

rough with our panel on for

1:16

show number 12. It's only three

1:18

weeks since his last appearance when he missed

1:20

defending the defendable for

1:22

the first time this season to

1:24

put his champion of champions qualification

1:26

in jeopardy. But this man is

1:28

under extraordinary pressure. Big issue

1:31

billionaire. Paul McNamee.

1:38

Hello, Paul. Hello

1:40

there. Good to be back. Good

1:42

to feel the pressure and see if

1:44

I can stand up to it on like any

1:47

English football team in football

1:49

competition. Listen, I want you to

1:51

do well, Paul. I like you. You know that.

1:53

I want you in champion of champions. I

1:55

cannot help but think that you're about to dolly the

1:58

ball up into the grateful arms of the goal. keeper.

2:00

Well let's just see how that goes thanks for

2:02

the full confidence. No problem at all happy to

2:04

help. On for the 17th time

2:06

like McNamee making a very strong bid to

2:08

qualify for champion of champions for the first

2:10

time. So far this season he has reached

2:13

the final three times out of three he's

2:15

looking to record back-to-back victories for the first

2:17

time after the previous host awarded him just

2:19

one in 13 tries. Comic

2:22

United fan from quite close

2:25

to Manchester Danny McQuarlin. Hello

2:29

Danny. The

2:37

remote though, the greatest t-shirt making band

2:40

of all time. They are, they're fantastic

2:42

on t-shirts. Don't really care for

2:44

their music. Liverpool crashed out of Europe,

2:46

City crashed out of Europe. Nice week to

2:48

be a United fan. Not really because of

2:50

the coefficient that's how bad it is

2:52

to be you know. You all know we're near and

2:54

benefited from the coefficient behaviour. We might still finish fifth

2:56

if everyone throws it. Immediately

3:00

that is a point for good humour. Back

3:03

for his second appearance making in the fourth

3:05

debutante this season to come back for more.

3:07

His debut was a game of two halves.

3:09

He spent the first half agreeing with Natalie

3:11

Pike then realised that was getting him nowhere

3:13

and had a storming second half. So like

3:15

most debutantes this season, 7 out of 12,

3:17

I let him reach DTI but also like

3:19

most of those, 4 out of 7, he

3:21

was unable to win. Former Arsenal

3:23

and Manchester City striker, so he's

3:25

had a great week. Paul Dickoff had

3:28

to pull out at very short

3:30

notice, such short notice in fact that

3:32

I didn't rewrite the intro but we

3:34

have gone like the like, it's

3:38

five lives, Aaron Paul. Hello.

3:40

I don't actually know what I'm doing

3:42

here but hey it is what it

3:44

is. It is and listen I

3:47

am glad you're here. I'm like the

3:49

WD-40 this radio station. Loomin' it

3:51

up constantly. Pelé dies, call AP.

3:54

Someone's getting promoted, call AP. Five

3:57

lives, hinges are squeaking, call AP. Just

4:00

call me Gordon Smart need the Joey, call

4:02

AP. 13th debut of season 21

4:04

and 403rd overall. Her

4:08

first name and surname lend themselves to

4:10

plenty of choice of intro theme. So,

4:12

sports presenter, fresh back from covering the

4:14

Masters last week, cap downs, for

4:16

the first time ever on

4:19

Fighting Talk, I'm going to let you choose your own

4:21

theme tune. These are your options,

4:23

choose carefully, because you are literally stuck with

4:25

this forever. OK. Here we go. Yep.

4:33

OK, come on. The shoulders

4:35

are going. Going

4:45

for number two. Number two, OK. Yeah.

4:49

Ladies and gentlemen, I thought it was Kojima.

4:51

Cat-bell! That's

4:53

a real privilege, isn't it?

4:56

No one's ever picked it

4:58

before. I start you here. Let's

5:01

begin, as is customary, with

5:04

the first question, which is based

5:06

around this. Guerrero

5:08

with a cross-filing and

5:10

the header from Yosua Toor. And

5:14

by Munich, it's the lead, just

5:16

past the hour. Rudega,

5:18

wait. Three-yard run-up, right-footed,

5:20

scores into the bottom corner and Real

5:23

Madrid are through. They've knocked out the

5:25

champions. Man City and Arsenal both out

5:27

at the quarter-final stage, and the question

5:29

that admittedly was set up for the

5:32

answer to be Harry Kane. Who will

5:34

you miss most from the Champions League

5:36

semis? Danny. It

5:39

sort of ties into Harry Kane a little

5:41

bit, because I'm going with the guy that

5:43

Harry Kane replaced at Bayern Munich. I'm going

5:45

with Robert Levene-Dott. He

5:47

went to Barca with a few other

5:49

old-school players looking to maybe have a

5:51

last run, because it's not just

5:54

the semi-finals that we're missing him from. I genuinely

5:56

think this might be the end of his Champions

5:58

League career. I think he's dealing with it. up

6:00

at the end. He's on 92 goals so he

6:02

needs 8 to get 100. That's good maths there.

6:05

So you can't see him doing that next season. Don't brag about

6:08

your own man. So what

6:10

I mean is, the reason I

6:12

say it is he looks like the exact sort of player

6:14

that's going to sign for Man United next year on

6:16

a two year deal and then struggle

6:19

to get near the Champions League for

6:21

the rest of his career. United obviously

6:23

excellent at ruining players who were already

6:25

sort of ruined. That

6:29

is some serious punditry for a man who

6:31

really wants to make it into champion of

6:33

champions. He's piling more pressure onto Paul McNamee.

6:35

What have you got? The thing about football

6:37

is that you don't just want success for

6:40

your team. You want to see your rivals

6:43

not just lose but be crushed

6:45

and broken and never to have

6:48

any joy at all. And because

6:50

of that I'm going to miss

6:53

Manchester City. Not just one

6:55

player, all of them. All the way

6:58

through from pep all the way through to their smug

7:00

sky blue shirts. And

7:03

I wanted them in the semi-finals so

7:05

they could get the penalties in the

7:07

semi-finals so we could keep this nonsense

7:10

chat about double treble. Who do they

7:12

think they are? Celtic, the team of

7:14

proper European pedigree. And then

7:16

just as they get to the moment where they're going to

7:18

get to the final, they keep it all going and

7:21

all the pundits are thinking

7:23

this is just the most wonderful thing ever

7:25

and isn't pep great, they get blown

7:28

out, they lose. So while

7:30

it's great that they're not there, it

7:32

is slightly heartbreaking that they couldn't have

7:34

their hearts broken right at that final

7:36

moment in these semi-finals. Proper

7:38

fighting talk and I really don't like it when occasionally

7:40

you meet football fans who don't seem to understand that

7:43

at least 50% of the joy

7:45

of being a football fan is hating other

7:47

teams. Periodic. Kat.

7:50

I've never heard a shirt described as smug before

7:52

but I enjoyed that. And yet you know

7:54

what he means. I do know what he means and

7:56

for that reason my player,

7:59

teams I'm going to miss are

8:01

Manchester City and Arsenal, not just because

8:03

of the world-beating touchline knitwear on display

8:05

on a weekly basis from Pep Guardiola

8:07

and Michael Arteta, which I enjoy, checking

8:09

out what they've got on underneath the

8:12

jackets or through any patriotic

8:14

sentimentality of having English teams through

8:16

to the semi-finals. But as a

8:18

Liverpool fan, I feel that

8:20

this means rather ominously that the

8:23

focus of both Manchester City and

8:25

Arsenal will now be on the Premier

8:27

League, which rightly, if

8:29

you're looking for a footballing fairy tale,

8:31

should be going to Jurgen Klopp, the

8:33

man that teeth the legend in his

8:35

final season at Anfield. That is

8:37

presumably what they did grave on the trophy as well, something about

8:39

his team. Right, Paul

8:42

Dickoff, what's your answer? Scott

8:44

Carson is the man I'm going to

8:46

miss the most. Manchester City's what, 15th

8:49

choice goalkeeper? He is the ultimate competition

8:51

winner, Rick. He's like when Onslow... Rick,

8:53

come here from you. Do you

8:55

remember Onslow? Oh, come on. When

8:57

Onslow won tickets for a cruise on the

8:59

QE2. Do you remember him keeping up appearances

9:01

and he just looked perplexed? I just love

9:03

seeing him really discombobulated when he gets off

9:05

the team by sticking around Kevin De Broglie

9:07

and Erling Harlan. And then you just see

9:10

him in a ridiculous outfit. Did you see

9:12

him last week at the Burnabout when he

9:14

got off in that baseball jacket, that American

9:16

jacket? He's like a kid who has to

9:18

repeat 8th grade 10 times. He's just so

9:20

out of place. It's great. You

9:23

really feel like he's living his best life as

9:25

well. Alright, question number two comes from you, the

9:27

listeners. James Wilson, and it says on my notes

9:30

here, could be a made up name. I mean,

9:32

if it is, fairly unimaginative.

9:35

James, have you made your name up? I haven't, no.

9:37

I was christened by my parents as is traditional.

9:40

So they made your name up. Yeah, okay, fine. They said

9:42

we did, yeah. And what are you up to, James? Just

9:44

off to a lunch in a minute, Rick, if you must know,

9:47

but at work at the moment. I now

9:49

feel like I didn't actually need to know you, right? I

9:51

shouldn't have asked, I'm so sorry. Your

9:53

theme music is this. I'm gonna wait

9:55

till the midnight I... Wilson

9:58

Pickett, lovely stuff actually. What

10:02

is your question please James? Okay

10:04

guys, with the distance from record which

10:06

stood since 1986, highly being broken

10:09

this week, what is the panel's prediction for

10:11

the next long-standing record to go

10:13

and who will break it? That's a good question.

10:16

Kat, start with you please. Well, it's the

10:18

London Marathon this Sunday which is, you

10:20

know, prime record-breaking territory isn't it?

10:23

All sorts of records could go. 79 fancy

10:27

dress-related records are also set to

10:29

be challenged on Sunday.

10:31

Some splendid categories in which new

10:33

times could be set. Fastest

10:35

marathon wearing foam clogs, brackets, mail, was

10:37

set last year and that was three

10:40

hours, two minutes, 41 seconds. That is

10:42

rapid. That's going some in clogs isn't

10:44

it? That deserves a round of applause.

10:46

Most t-shirts worn during a marathon, brackets,

10:49

mail. 78, again, set last year. There's

10:52

always men who are dived, isn't it? You

10:54

know, that's exactly what occurred to me.

10:56

All of these. Fastest marathon dressed as

10:59

a mammal, brackets, mail. Fastest marathon dressed

11:01

as a three-dimensional aircraft, brackets, mail. It

11:05

does make you embarrassed to be a man. Again.

11:07

What I get from that is that one woman

11:09

holds all those records there, that's why. The

11:12

one I think is going to fall

11:14

on Sunday though is, fastest marathon dressed

11:16

as a tap, again brackets, mail. This

11:20

was set by Thomas Langdown at three

11:23

hours, 29 minutes and 55

11:25

seconds in 2016. So that's

11:27

nine years ago. So it's about time we had

11:29

a new king of the taps. And if anything

11:31

is made for a running Rick, it's

11:33

a tap. Oh yes please. Thank you very

11:35

much. What a fantastic answer. Paul Dickoff,

11:37

what's your answer? Well, as

11:40

you know, I cover the EFL here on 5 Live

11:42

regularly. That's my regular sort of gig when I'm not

11:44

standing in for people. I thought

11:46

you were an ambassador for Manchester City. No, all

11:49

season people have been harking on me about how

11:51

Leicester City are going to blitz

11:53

Redding's 106 point record in the championship.

11:55

They're the greatest team the championship has

11:58

ever seen. And evidently

12:00

they're not, so that was going to

12:02

be it, but it's not. But I think it's

12:04

just very simple. Liverpool rubbish, Arsenal imploding, Manchester United's

12:06

three Premier Leagues in a row is going to

12:09

be blitzed by Manchester City. They're going to pick

12:11

up a fourth this season. Everyone's predicting it. It's

12:13

going to happen. Yeah, it's a sort of begrudging

12:15

point, I think you're probably right. Danny?

12:17

I'm going with the Premier League as well. It's a

12:19

record that's stood since 1994 or

12:22

1995, and it's Alan Shearer's 10

12:24

penalties in a single Premier League

12:26

season record. Cole Palmer's

12:28

on nine. I think the way he's going, he's

12:30

probably going to end up with 18. So

12:33

yeah, I think that's going to be shattered this year by at least

12:35

three. Okay,

12:37

Paul. I'm going back to athletics. The

12:41

field records tend to be the ones that stand

12:43

as we've seen this week. Mike Piles is going

12:45

to take a long time to break. But

12:47

the one that I think needs to go is in

12:50

one of my favourite track

12:53

sports, competitive walking. I

12:55

love competitive walking. And the record,

12:58

hold on, listen, I

13:00

can explain this very clearly. The

13:03

record for competitive walking for

13:05

the 20 kilometre track

13:07

has been held for

13:09

30 years by Bernardo Segura, who

13:11

is a Mexican. 30

13:14

years at record has stood, one hour 17 minutes. I

13:17

want to know what goes through the mind of competitive walker.

13:20

They start but they never run. And

13:23

they at some point around 18 kilometres,

13:25

they must get into such a

13:27

meditative state that they think they can

13:29

touch the face of God. And off

13:32

they're going, they're still with that weird

13:34

hip movement that makes no sense at

13:36

all. And they are going to

13:38

be seeing the secrets of the universe. And

13:41

that is potentially why it's taken so long

13:43

for somebody to break the record, because they

13:45

don't really care about the records. They're there

13:47

with the big philosophical questions. Asimo

13:49

Stanile has said it, he is there at the

13:52

moment. He is the lead competitive walker in the

13:54

world, the Italian. But I

13:56

want to see that record broken because it has been

13:58

there for so many years. Yeah, strangely

14:00

philosophical answer that, but I quite enjoyed it

14:02

nevertheless. Um, James, what did you make of them?

14:05

Yeah, I think, I think if the clog world

14:07

record from Cat had been old, I think that's

14:09

a, that's a head and shoulders winnable. But I'm

14:11

going to go with, with Paul who

14:13

competitive walking record, you know, running the slowest. Yeah,

14:16

that's got to go. Well, that's a surprise, but

14:18

you've got the points there, Paul. Well done. Thanks

14:21

very much, James. I congratulate your parents on making up that name

14:23

for you. It's a, it's a really good one. Sounds

14:25

very good. Well, thank you. Also, he said he

14:27

was traditionally christened by his parents, but people are

14:30

traditionally christened by priests. Ah, okay.

14:33

The next topic is sort

14:36

of about this. Can

14:38

I find a... Oh,

14:44

it's a big happy birthday to Shug

14:46

Knight, who is, was a

14:49

promising athlete. He was tipped to be

14:51

a future NFL defensive end. He

14:54

went on a full sporting scholarship to

14:56

the university in Las Vegas, then gave

14:58

it all up to go into the

15:00

music industry and run people over in

15:02

his tricks. But who else has given

15:04

it all up to get a quote

15:06

proper job like the currently incarcerated former

15:08

death row records kingpin and all round

15:10

horrible man. Danny.

15:14

I'm going with Oliver Gill, who

15:17

was a footballer for Manchester United. He

15:19

won the Denzel Haroon Reserve Player of

15:21

the Year. The one

15:23

they all want. Yep. A hot prospect in the youth

15:25

team. Son of David Gill, of course. So he probably

15:27

didn't even have to be that good to

15:30

get games. But he had the squad number,

15:32

squad number 45. And just as he was

15:34

on the cusp of the first team, he

15:37

gave it all up to go to Durham University

15:40

to study finance or something. And now he's he works

15:42

in finance at the age of 33. And

15:45

do we know if he's happy? I think he'd be

15:47

all right. It'd probably be fine, wouldn't he? Cat. A

15:50

little known fact about Bruce Dickinson. So

15:52

I'm sticking with the music theme, the

15:54

lead singer of heavy metal group Iron

15:56

Maiden, partial to some lighter weight metal

15:58

as well, because. He's a dadhand at

16:01

fencing. He was what most wrote seventh

16:03

in the country after his club won

16:06

the 1989 national

16:08

team championship. He put the British

16:10

squad and in 2013 when he was 54

16:12

he fought a bloke called

16:15

Bartosz Pierszewski who's a Norwegian

16:18

fencer who won silver at the

16:20

2012 games in London. Pierszewski described

16:22

him as kick-ass, short but

16:25

incredibly fast and he still fences four

16:27

times a week even though Iron Maiden

16:29

are on tour. That's a

16:31

superb answer and Paul

16:33

Dickoff. I'm going for the wee man

16:36

and that's Luciano Pavarotti. He played for

16:38

Modena as a young pup

16:40

and he was a real promising

16:42

goalkeeper from what I understand but his mum wanted

16:45

him to become a teacher. He trained as one

16:47

but he ended up singing some songs in the

16:49

end and he did half decent with that. I

16:51

was going to go down the Natalie Pike tactic

16:54

of giving you about five different names but I

16:56

think that big

16:58

Luciano, he does the business.

17:00

Paul. Well I'm just going to take

17:02

you back to the early

17:04

90s. Three young fellas, three young

17:07

bucks heading across from their school St

17:09

Louis and Ballinina to the Northern Bank. Not

17:11

the main Northern Bank up

17:13

at the Pentagon but the

17:15

Northern Bank. It's a smaller one down near the

17:18

Dair Arms Hotel. They

17:20

want to interview a local personality ushered

17:22

into the bank, into the bank

17:24

manager's office and hulking behind

17:26

a desk in that office

17:30

is global rugby

17:32

legend Willie John McBride. He

17:35

had become a provincial bank

17:37

manager, not for Willie John

17:39

going down the route of

17:42

management or of coaching or

17:44

of inspirational speaking or staying

17:48

in sports. He decided

17:51

that sports loss would be

17:53

provincial banking's gain. That's somebody

17:55

who gave up sport and I hope you do get

17:57

much more of a proper job than working in a

17:59

bank. Not according to my

18:01

mother. So therefore, Willie Chong McBride.

18:03

You're poor, disappointed about that. All

18:06

right, let's check in

18:09

with the scores. It is

18:11

tight at the bottom. Danny

18:13

has 12. Aaron also has

18:15

12. Cap

18:17

on debut, respectable 13. Paul

18:19

out ahead on 16, thanks

18:23

to his philosophical race-walking answer, which

18:25

inexplicably impressed the listener. Why

18:30

not? It's there. English cricket head

18:32

honcho Rob Key backed the controversial trial

18:35

use of the Southern Hemisphere cricket ball

18:37

over the first two weeks of the

18:39

county cricket season, saying, I would

18:41

use the Kookaburra all the time. English cricket

18:43

would be much better off for it. So

18:45

Key is a big fan of the Kookaburra

18:48

sits in the old gum tree, but what

18:50

is your favourite ball? And

18:52

let's keep this quick, Danny. It's the Nike

18:54

Merlin introduced to the Premier League in the

18:56

year 2000 to replace the Mitre. It

19:00

was the one that spawned not only an

19:02

amazing advert where Louis van Gaal was stealing

19:04

it from a museum with a selection of

19:06

amazing football, but also was really easy to

19:09

steal because we went to the local shop

19:11

and swapped the stickers with the replica that

19:13

wasn't worth 150 quid. I

19:17

mean, stealing is bad, but not from Mike. It's not that we

19:19

have crimes. Stealing is bad, but not

19:22

from Mike Ashley. So there

19:24

you go. I mean, the only

19:26

thing about that is I do sort of miss the Mitre. Paul,

19:30

it is the black ball at

19:33

the end of the 1985 World

19:35

Snooker Championship. The black

19:37

ball finish that brought Dennis the

19:39

title and that funny little finger

19:41

wag that he did and

19:44

his upturned glasses that became such

19:46

a staple of mediocre

19:48

impressionists for about 10 years afterwards.

19:50

That is my favourite ball. Now,

19:53

of course, replaced by the Riyadh Golden Ball, which

19:55

you can put at the end of a 1-4-7.

19:58

I'm sure you're looking forward to it. much as I

20:00

am Paul, cat. My favourite

20:02

ball is the ball that works hardest in sport, the

20:05

99p ball that you buy every time you go to

20:07

the beach. It starts off as a football until you

20:09

realise it blows away in the wind, then it becomes

20:12

a volleyball until you realise it blows away in the

20:14

wind, then it becomes a cricket ball and you whack

20:16

it with those little hollow plastic blue bats but that

20:18

blows away in the wind and eventually it's bitten and

20:20

punctured by a dog. Textbook

20:23

answer there. Aaron. My

20:25

favourite ball, well, it's the

20:28

used Wimbledon tennis ball at the end of day,

20:30

I mean it's day four of play. Five pound

20:32

a tube, great give and you can say that

20:35

like an Adao and Murray play with them and

20:37

no one knows the difference. That's

20:40

a good tip, very very good tip. Alright,

20:43

on to question number five.

20:45

Ah yes, after quite

20:47

a heavy lunch on Friday the crack team

20:49

of Fighting Talk question writers completely

20:51

forgot why they wanted to ask this

20:53

next question. I can't remember the original

20:56

reason. Luckily for them, the games industry

20:58

then announced a new gamers seat that is plastered

21:00

in Formula One logo, especially made for those playing

21:02

the Formula One game, looks like

21:04

a Formula One cockpit, costs two grand.

21:07

So if that is one of

21:09

the best seats, what is the

21:11

worst you've ever had, cats? True

21:14

story. In the gym, in the hotel

21:16

at the Rio Olympics, I was on

21:18

an exercise bike and in

21:20

walk Sir Chris Hoy and two

21:22

time Olympic champion Victoria Pendleton and

21:25

take the seat on the exercise

21:27

bikes either side of me.

21:29

Time to beat a hasty retreat. How

21:32

did you get on? I just muttered something about

21:35

having to go and do a comprehensive cool down and

21:37

move over to the weights section. They will have loved

21:39

that, they will have a comprehensive cool down, that's very

21:41

good. Arif. I'm

21:43

going to go for my first ever trip as a

21:46

young football reporter to Carlisle,

21:48

Brunt and Mark, because they basically had no

21:50

room in the press box, they stuck me

21:52

next to the T-urn which was mounted upon

21:54

another seat in the stand. It was basically

21:56

like being in the David Lloyd steam room,

21:58

but the campus in Excuse me as people

22:01

put you know, like try to get past to

22:03

make their own tea. I mean it was so

22:05

big I could have put my arm around it

22:07

and taken it on a date great for the

22:09

pause horrendous otherwise But not the strangest thing I

22:12

saw there, which was the mascot which was actually

22:14

a dead fox mounted on a plinth very strange

22:17

place Okay,

22:19

we're gonna come back to that in the podcast Danny

22:22

worst seat. I remember about 1999

22:26

I really liked the girl and asked her if she

22:28

wanted to go out and she said yeah And

22:30

I really like she's really like rugby league So

22:33

she invited me to go and watch Warrington wolves

22:35

versus Bradford Bulls nothing's real romance Exactly at the

22:37

old I think it was a test. I think

22:40

she was trying to put me off Like

22:42

I don't but I really don't want to go on

22:44

a date with this guy. How on earth exactly What

22:46

she didn't know is I like that I'd have gone

22:48

to a Westlife gig or anything I just really really

22:50

liked her so I went with her and there was

22:52

hardly this was why it was the worst seat It

22:55

wasn't much of a seat. It was like perched on

22:57

the edge of a railing Oh, yeah, the most inhospitable

22:59

place I've ever been it looked like a room from

23:01

sore Sorry,

23:04

I'm excited good story And I'm

23:06

there uncomfortable like a subsidiary sport to a

23:08

sport I don't even like so I felt

23:11

like I'd gone the cinema to watch the

23:13

sitcom Joey Like it was a

23:15

spin-off of a sport that I didn't want I went

23:17

for it to the kiosk This is a true story. I went

23:19

to the kiosk and I asked the guy for the last Mars

23:21

bar and he just said no Because

23:25

he did fit and he forgot to take

23:27

it off the shelf. It was absolutely ridiculous

23:29

I've never been to rugby league since I

23:31

never ever want to go. Okay, there

23:33

you go Paul the worst

23:35

and one of the best was one in the

23:38

same on My

23:40

honeymoon many years ago. We

23:42

went to Prague. This is before Prague was

23:44

the the the place of Cardinal

23:47

indulgence pre nuptials. This is when you can

23:49

still go to Prague And

23:52

enjoy yourself and when we were

23:54

there sport of Prague were playing at home

23:56

We thought let's go and see Sparta Prague as you do

23:58

in your honeymoon went up to

24:00

the ground and it was really really cheap to get

24:02

in and being flashed I said let's get the best

24:04

tickets we can get they cost a pound so we

24:07

got two one-pound tickets and

24:10

we were ushered to where we were going to sit and

24:12

I don't know if this was somebody who was

24:14

just having his own but we were put behind

24:17

the goal with the Sparta Prag Ultras so

24:19

there we were a honeymoon couple

24:22

with Eastern European skinheads we

24:24

were rather loud

24:27

and they quite enjoyed

24:29

their fascistic movements and

24:32

I wasn't exactly sure what they were saying but I

24:34

don't think it was it was very nice but they

24:36

were so polite every time my

24:38

newlywed wife got up to do something they

24:40

were helping her showing her around the place

24:42

so what we thought was going to be

24:44

one of the weirdest worst experiences turned

24:47

out oddly to be a good seat to

24:49

watch the football. Kind of with the Ultras.

24:51

Yeah I don't mind. Did you wait my

24:54

new wife being shown around by fascists? I

24:56

don't think so. It's kind of

24:58

bad. Everything went very well

25:00

after that. Thanks for the

25:02

thought. One more point. Okay

25:04

let's have a quick look at the scores before we

25:06

go to the break. Aaron and Cat tied on 20,

25:09

Danny has 21, Paul really

25:11

wants champion of champions he's on 26.

25:14

That was I think a respectable half a fight and

25:16

talk. More of the same please once we got the

25:18

boring old news out the way. Hello

25:32

welcome back to Spiking Talk, welcome back

25:34

to our panel. Paul McNamee, Danny McRoughlin,

25:36

Cat Downs and Aaron Paul, Danny and

25:38

Paul Dicock. Danny has just realised whilst

25:40

listening to the news what the correct

25:43

answer to who gave sports up was

25:45

The Pope, John Paul II

25:48

was the goalkeeper for AC

25:50

Milan. Yeah unfortunately you've got

25:52

that too late. Ah

25:54

that is... Maybe you lose a point. Horrible.

25:56

But I don't make the rules. What

26:00

was happening on this day 11 years

26:03

ago, you'll be pleased to know I've actually checked. 20th

26:06

April 2013, Elie Oldrope made her

26:08

50th appearance, maybe 51st, she

26:10

might have been on the lost episode from the 3rd January 2004. She

26:13

was defeated by a heading vain in defending

26:15

the Fenceable, the Germans first win in over

26:17

3 years and last for another 8. Game

26:21

change of time, 5 points to one of

26:23

you, none for the rest and it is

26:25

sort of about this. It's

26:27

Delanque, Kumbala slips, Delanque

26:30

loses the storm, escaped

26:32

by Kumbala, he's close to pass

26:34

by Tom and it's Delanque. And

26:37

Zorba to warm and he leads

26:39

the man's end of the United this

26:41

season, lead against him again. Fans

26:43

quickly noticed how the ball was regularly sticking in

26:46

the pitch in Bournemouth's half due to water, but

26:48

moving more quickly in the Man United half of

26:50

the pitch. There is no mention of any limits

26:52

to water in the pitch before kick-off in the

26:54

rules and Fife Talk loves

26:56

a bit of underhand house rate. So

26:59

give me your legal but sneaky ideas

27:01

to definitely give you a sporting advantage,

27:03

Aaron. Well, I wasn't going to

27:05

go for something quite boring and say

27:08

nothing stinks more of junior school house rate than

27:10

under un-bowling in cricket and we should bring it

27:12

back, but I'm going to go from the

27:14

old Brian Clough playbook. And this is

27:16

a classic story told by Mark Crossley

27:18

and it happened just before his debut.

27:21

Forest had this thing where at the city

27:24

ground they would tamper with the heating system

27:26

in the opposition dressing room, turn it all

27:28

the way up and then snap the controls

27:30

off so that the opposition would become super

27:32

dehydrated. And they used to do it a

27:34

lot to Liverpool. Kenny Dalglish in particular, not

27:36

a fan, his teams would have to take

27:38

on excess water and it just wouldn't really

27:40

work out well. But yeah, I'm down for

27:42

that. I'm down for dehydrating everyone. Also, I

27:44

mean, I'm not supposed to be giving any

27:46

points, but I'm just excited because I like

27:48

the story. Also, just quite funny that you're

27:50

just breaking the temperature controls at your own

27:52

ground and then the grouser comes round like,

27:54

oh, for this again, Danny. When

27:58

you're on top in a football match, you just, you want to. momentum

28:00

to go your way. Anything that breaks momentum

28:02

is annoying and you hate it except one

28:04

thing and that is a stray dog on

28:06

the pitch. That's the only thing that can

28:08

happen that you can't be mad at. So

28:10

what I'm saying is team should keep near

28:13

the goal a dog ready

28:15

to run on. If the other team are looking like

28:17

they're getting on top, maybe they're a fast break. You

28:19

set the dog on Harlan's legs. Queen's

28:23

Crystal Palace could release the eagle just

28:25

as someone was through on goal to sweep

28:27

down and take the ball away from the

28:29

striker's feet and you can't be mad. Can

28:31

you imagine? We were going to win, Sal

28:33

was going to score but that otter ran

28:35

on the pitch. You'd be like, oh, otters.

28:37

There's nothing you could do that you could

28:39

be angry about that. So I think that

28:41

is like, no, it's not legal. I

28:43

don't think people are going to be annoyed. I could get

28:45

a bit messy at mollying you though. You

28:50

will get a bonus point for that actually Aaron.

28:52

It always sounds like really good fun until you

28:54

just sneaked in the phrase, set the dog on

28:56

Harlan's legs. That I think would be more of

28:58

a problem. No, on the ball, on the ball.

29:00

Can you imagine if it was linked to Cresta

29:03

and you got a Wickham Wanders, there's just a

29:05

swan just going round the hips. Or Carl Ailes,

29:08

they throw the dead fox on a fling. I've

29:10

worked out the dead foxes called Olga by the

29:12

way. Oh, that's nice, don't they?

29:14

Cat. Everyone loves a dog on

29:16

there, that's a great answer. I googled how

29:18

to stop City winning the league on Reddit.

29:21

It said the difference between these clubs cannot

29:23

be closed within the capitalist system. Therefore, if

29:25

you want to see a season where City

29:27

do not win it, you must support an

29:29

international proletarian revolution and the complete abolishment of

29:31

bourgeoisie society, which seems a little extreme,

29:33

I think, for gamesmanship. And I'm a bit too busy

29:35

for that. So I was thinking we

29:38

should just hire Carlo Ancelotti

29:41

as a consensus, which is within the rules. You can

29:43

hire a court consultant, it's got you, people to come

29:45

in on the payroll,

29:47

under, you know, under

29:49

the manager. If we had to disguise

29:52

him in some way, six fancy

29:54

dress outfits for the last six games of

29:56

the season for each of the teams

29:59

who are going to face the before

30:01

the season ends at West Ham in

30:03

May. So maybe some smart

30:05

cash for when he's working with Mauricio

30:07

Pochettino, a selection of stick-on beards for

30:10

Roberto D'Souvin, Nuno, Ange

30:12

Pastor-Cargalou. Just to

30:14

get him to blend in, might have to stick

30:16

down the eyebrows though, which might give the game

30:19

away, but I wondered if legally, if

30:21

we can come to some kind

30:24

of contractual agreement with

30:26

Real Madrid, we could get Carlo Ancelotti

30:28

in as a consultant for the other

30:30

side. Not an answer I was expecting.

30:33

Paul. I think for

30:35

United, given how appalling they

30:37

are at football, there's

30:39

very little that can be done except

30:42

one thing. As soon as,

30:44

whoever United are playing, as soon as the

30:46

coaching staff and subs have walked on to

30:49

the technical area, Alex

30:52

Ferguson comes out the tunnel. Funnel

30:55

jacket zipped up, looking very

30:57

angry still, walks

30:59

straight up to Eric Tenhag, whispers

31:01

something in his ear that nobody

31:03

can quite hear or know what's

31:05

going on, and then just stands

31:07

slightly in the background, scowling, staring

31:09

at the opposition bench, and

31:11

not saying anything else for the rest of the game. I

31:14

feel like he sort of did that to David Moyes anyway. So

31:17

I've got heating tampering,

31:19

I've got dogs and various other animals

31:22

running onto the pitch, I've got disguised

31:25

Carlo Ancelotti as a consultant,

31:28

and I've got a whispering Alex Ferguson.

31:31

I've got to go with the animals on the pitch,

31:33

I think, haven't I? It's a really good one. It's

31:35

a bit of fun, it's a bit of fun. Okay,

31:38

moving on to the next question. Wednesday

31:40

this week, saw the countdown reach 100 days until

31:43

the Paris Olympics, but who will be

31:46

a household name in around 120 days

31:48

time? Paul.

31:52

Well, it's going to be Divjanish

31:54

Panwar, who as we all

31:56

know is currently the 10 meter air rifle

31:58

world champion. Indian he

32:00

set the world record in Cairo a couple

32:02

of months ago and the reason it's going

32:04

to be him is because when it comes

32:06

to major international games

32:09

particularly the Olympics some of

32:11

the minor sports are on first and

32:13

we all become incredible experts at it and that's

32:15

no way to hold up an arrow that

32:18

is absolutely a rubbish way to stand

32:20

with a rifle so as

32:22

soon as this starts we will all be

32:24

getting behind Sivjanesh Pamwar thinking this fell and

32:26

those head stuff not only that

32:28

he will have the entire Indian subcontinent the

32:31

majority of behind him so he will become

32:33

a global superstar and he's the one

32:35

we'll be talking about can you imagine all

32:37

up the Southland the gangsters just sat

32:39

there in front of the TV sets going

32:42

now that's not how you hold it

32:44

son Aaron so you got for me I'm

32:46

gonna go for B boy sunny now

32:48

you're probably wondering who he is well so

32:50

was I yesterday also known as sunny

32:52

for fizzy he's Malaysian born but was raised

32:54

in the Southwestern of England he broke

32:56

into breakdancing there is mum who was

32:59

a former circus performer he's been huge

33:01

in getting B boy in culture as

33:03

he calls it recognized and he will

33:05

represent team GB within breaking or breakdancing

33:08

which of course is making its debut

33:10

at Paris 24 good

33:12

answer Danny I'm going with seven

33:14

foot two basketball sensation Victor Wemberg

33:17

Yama a French player

33:19

he's in a place of France obviously

33:21

in the Olympics in Paris his home

33:23

country he's also come from relative like

33:25

obscurity because he was drafted first in

33:27

the NBA draft but he didn't go

33:29

through their college system so people didn't

33:31

really know much about him unless they

33:34

were watching French league basketball he's already

33:36

got a signature Nike shoe called the

33:38

alien which is his nickname I genuinely

33:41

think he could be the face of this Olympics

33:43

and that he's gonna be the face of the

33:45

NBA in the future they've got him in line

33:47

to replace LeBron like there is a scenario where

33:49

this kid can literally be in the third Space

33:51

Jam film he's gonna be that big I do

33:53

you know what I mean I like the guy

33:55

but the problem is I already know the guy

33:57

so I think take a point off for that

34:01

Who is left? Who hasn't gone

34:03

cat? As the

34:06

BBC's diving commentator, it

34:08

befalls to me to make sure that Noah

34:10

Williams becomes a household name. He is Tom

34:12

Daley's partner in the 10

34:14

metre synchro. Now, Tom Daley won a gold

34:17

medal at the last Olympics in Tokyo alongside

34:19

Matty Lee. One paper wrote

34:21

the headline, Tom Daley wins gold with his

34:23

partner. Didn't even name Matty

34:25

Lee. Matty Lee had to go on I'm a Celebrity

34:27

Get Me Out Of Here to get the fame and

34:30

the adulation and the fans that he should have had

34:32

as an Olympic champion. I don't want Noah to have

34:34

to go through that. No Olympic champion deserves to have

34:36

to eat eyeballs to get the credit that they

34:38

deserve. So let's make Noah

34:40

Williams a household name now because

34:42

they won a silver medal

34:45

at the World Championships early this year.

34:47

Overnight, on Thursday night, they won a

34:50

silver medal at the World Cup so they

34:52

could well be on the Olympic podium come

34:54

Paris. So Noah Williams, let's make

34:56

him a household name now, so when you see

34:59

him on the podium with Tom Daley, you can

35:01

say, look, there's Noah Williams and his diving partner,

35:03

Tom Daley. Yeah, three very

35:05

sensible answers there on whatever Paul said.

35:08

The next topic is inspired by

35:10

this. I always say you've got to go

35:12

with the name that sort of appeals to you most. So

35:14

having a look at the old line art,

35:17

you know, I've got to go for I am

35:19

Maximus. It's purely because of the radiator. Yeah, surely.

35:21

Yeah, the sorrel. And then

35:24

he happens to be second favorite in a minute. So yeah, here

35:26

we go. Lump

35:28

on Maximus. Very, very well done. Harry

35:32

Aiken-Zorite, nitro from Gladiators, who

35:34

on last week's Fighting Talk correctly predicted the winner

35:37

of the Grand National. I'll give him

35:39

two bonus points next time he's on because he

35:41

needs him. Let's keep the

35:43

streak going with your prediction for a sporting

35:45

result that might get you a mention on

35:48

next week's show. If

35:50

you're right, Danny. I

35:52

mean, it's easy to pick a second favorite to win

35:54

the Grand National. I'm sure it happens quite a bit.

35:56

What is an easy you wouldn't say that in my

35:58

first place, though, would you? Yeah, I would

36:01

on zoom What

36:04

isn't easy is to predict not only the result

36:06

but the minute and the type of goal that's

36:08

gonna happen and I think I've Got that for

36:10

a go. I've got a hunch that West Brom

36:12

are gonna really put the cat amongst the pigeons Which goes

36:15

back on to my previous answer about the animals on the

36:17

pit And

36:19

beat Lester 1-0 with a 67th

36:21

minute Alex Merwek goal from a from

36:23

an uncleared corner I think that's genuinely

36:25

what's gonna happen And

36:28

yeah, I can't wait for my two bonus points next time

36:31

I'm on really I mean I'm loving the level of detail

36:33

there Can you talk that Nellie Corder

36:35

winning the Chevron championship the first women's major

36:37

of the year taking place this weekend Scotty

36:39

Sheffler won the Masters last week the red-hot

36:42

favorite He won twice and had a runner-up

36:44

finish in his last three tournaments before Augusta

36:46

But Nellie Corder is going for five wins

36:48

in a row if she pulls it off

36:51

It'll be the longest winning streak since

36:53

Nancy Lopez in 1978 and it'll be her second

36:58

She's the world number one She's got the sexiest swing

37:00

in golf and you can find out if she gets

37:02

it done because we've got commentary on five

37:04

sports Extra over the weekend. She's currently

37:06

two shots off the lead after the opening

37:08

round. So Just lose a point

37:10

for the plug And

37:13

also, I mean you are going for someone who is

37:15

probably gonna win you're playing it a

37:17

bit safer cat Well, come on Aaron

37:20

just so I know we don't get

37:23

any points across trailing. Yeah Afraid

37:25

not. Okay. Cool. Thank you Um,

37:27

I believe that certain things are

37:29

fate and certain things are written

37:32

and so I believe it is written that Mark

37:34

Robbins Coventry City will be Manchester

37:36

United and how he saves Tranix Ferguson's job

37:39

back in 1990 He

37:41

will contribute to Eric Tenharg getting the

37:43

sack. It's just written in the sauce

37:45

It's a lovely prediction that will get

37:47

you plenty of points Paul as

37:50

we all know one of the biggest Matches

37:52

of the weekend is is an

37:54

amateur match although it gets

37:56

a respect the professional sport in Ireland It

37:59

is very versus Dunny Gull. It's

38:02

Gaelic football, it's court finals with the Ulster

38:04

heading towards the All-Ireland. This

38:06

is going to be a massive tussle. Dunny

38:09

Gull are managed by a guy called Jim

38:11

McGinnis who has had this wild career, started

38:14

as a Gaelic football manager through a friendship

38:16

with Paul McGinley, ended up coaching at Celtic,

38:18

then went to China, then went to America

38:21

and is now back at Dunny Gull. Derriere

38:23

coached by Mickey Hart who

38:25

used to be the coach of Tyrone. Derriere's

38:28

loathed enemy, that's like somebody going

38:30

from Arsenal to Spurs or Liverpool

38:33

to Everton. Derriere, Dunny

38:35

Gull, it'll be a sellout and I'm saying

38:37

that Derri are going to win it and

38:39

are going to win it handsomely. Got

38:42

to be honest with you Paul, when I

38:44

came out today I realised I didn't know

38:46

where my house keys were and during that

38:48

answer I was thinking mainly about my house

38:50

keys but I'm sure it was

38:53

good. Shame on you for condemning Irish

38:55

sports. No, I was condemning you actually.

38:58

That is terrible. Right Aaron

39:00

and Cat still tied in

39:02

third place on 28th, Danny

39:06

on 31, just starting to

39:08

eat into Paul's lead who

39:10

has 34. Welcome back

39:13

to the jobs. Now

39:20

we have back-to-back social media questions which

39:23

is exciting. Chelsea star Lauren James unfollowed

39:25

Lyoness's teammates Mary Earps and Ella Toon

39:27

after the Man United players made light

39:29

of her struggles against them and their

39:32

FA Cup semi-final victory against their side

39:34

on Instagram. Which sports person are

39:36

you so fed up with you're going to unfollow

39:38

them right now on the show and even if

39:40

you don't follow them you can follow them now

39:42

and then unfollow during the answering the question and

39:44

boy is that going to hurt them. Cat.

39:48

Stetsidosa, this is Stefano Sitsipas

39:50

and Paola Bedosa top tennis

39:52

players but also as it

39:54

says on their shared social

39:56

media account best friends

39:58

and soul mates nothing. nothing

40:01

more. Below them is a

40:03

litany of posts of them looking

40:06

canned and fit and nuzzling each

40:08

other and resting their foreheads against

40:10

each other with their eyes closed.

40:12

The posts themselves are nauseating but

40:14

what really gets me is this

40:16

self-generated portmanteau of their name.

40:19

You can't make up your own, can you?

40:21

I mean, Brangelina, Kimye, they were dreadful

40:23

on their own but to

40:25

make up your own is an

40:28

unfollowable offence. But then

40:30

I think somebody got hold of them and said, look

40:32

guys, I think, you know, you're making the whole world

40:34

want to chunder and now they don't post

40:36

anywhere near as much and I need

40:39

to see it. I need to see it. I want to

40:41

rekindle the rage. I enjoy the outrage of

40:43

looking at the Cixi dosa posts and

40:46

they don't do it quite as much now and that's a

40:48

shame, I think. I love to follow them.

40:50

I hate to follow them and I

40:52

regularly unfollow them. I enjoy hate following

40:55

people actually and I do hate forehead

40:57

to forehead so maybe I'll get involved.

40:59

Danny. This guy is

41:01

not really a sports person. He's everything

41:03

I hate about sport really. It's

41:06

fan channels that I don't like in football and

41:08

this guy is ultimately the worst

41:10

thing I've ever seen on the internet and I

41:13

think you already know is... Goldbridge. It's Mark Goldbridge.

41:15

Of course it's Goldbridge. Like, who is this guy?

41:17

Like, I'm convinced he's not a United fan.

41:19

I'm convinced he's not even a football fan.

41:21

I'm convinced he's not even an adult. I

41:24

think it's three kids on each other's shoulders

41:26

in a matter. Like, he's

41:28

ridiculous. Like, football

41:31

is about enjoying the moment. It's not about

41:33

watching an adult man throw his headphones across

41:36

the room. Yeah,

41:39

I mean, I know that you're right

41:41

but equally the first thing I do

41:43

after United have any sort of disaster

41:45

is I go and check his reaction.

41:47

Yeah. It's really fun and I'm

41:49

sure you do as well. Yeah, he's the worst guy.

41:52

I know. I know. Yeah, I just...

41:54

But I do love it. Paul. Taste

41:58

and fury. Taste and fury. used

42:00

to have things to say, used to be

42:02

interesting whether you agreed with him or not,

42:04

used to post things of some note on

42:07

Twitter and if you want to be the heavyweight champion

42:09

of the world, if you want to be one of

42:12

the most famous sports people in the world, you've got

42:14

a platform and you could use it. All

42:16

he does now, all he does is basically

42:18

try and resell tickets for his fight. He's

42:21

just posting and reposting nothing of any note.

42:23

Now and again he'll retweet something the Pope

42:25

said but there's nothing else from

42:27

Case and Fury now and

42:30

apparently he isn't even doing it himself

42:32

now. He's handed it over to a member of his

42:34

team. He said this last week when he was asked

42:36

about his Twitter which is even worse.

42:39

If you're going to do it, do it yourself,

42:41

don't give it to somebody else. Case and Fury,

42:43

shame on you. There you go, you

42:46

had it here first. Aaron.

42:48

Well I was going to go for

42:50

Joey Barton because well yeah anyway but

42:54

I heard that you get points for saying Matt

42:56

Leticia to any answer on this programme so Matt

42:58

Leticia. Yeah, always a point for that. Oh well

43:00

if I can hit the thing. Alright

43:02

as promised, back to back on the socials and

43:05

gone that show had a bit of explains

43:07

to do after liking two tweets that

43:09

criticise his own manager Eric Tenharg. Which sporting

43:11

tweet though do you like

43:14

Kat? Well having been at the Masters last

43:17

week and unable to resist the lure of

43:19

the enormous merchandise tent, this one blew my

43:21

mind from American sports and business journo John

43:24

Pompliano, the

43:26

Masters shop takes 70 million dollars over the

43:28

week of the tournament, that's 10 million a

43:30

day, 1 million an hour, 16,000

43:32

a minute, 277 dollars every second. Now

43:38

if Danny was given that answer he would have

43:40

commented on the good maths but I'm glad that

43:42

you didn't. Danny. I

43:45

love a football account that's football on

43:47

this day and I saw today that

43:49

it's 24 years to the

43:51

day since my favourite assist of all

43:53

time and it's Fernando Redondo for Real

43:55

Madrid against Manchester United, makes a fool

43:57

of Helen Berg and John O'Shea, gets

43:59

the byline. and squares it for a

44:01

tap-in. Absolutely great to watch even though I

44:04

was crying at the time. Aaron, anything

44:06

to do with Portsmouth's promotion this week

44:09

from the Sublime which has drone footage

44:11

showing all of the fans invading the

44:13

Fran Park picture full-time to the ridiculous

44:15

Captain Marlon Pack, leader, legend, addressing the

44:17

fans 15 pints deep next

44:19

to him, his colleague, the Pompey

44:21

fallback Joe Rafferty decides to moon

44:23

whilst pressing his derriere up against

44:25

a glass balustrade in O'Neill's in

44:28

Portsmouth all in 4k HD. I

44:30

think Joe Niel's in Portsmouth, gets lively. Best

44:35

Tweet of the week was when

44:37

Ali McCoist was caught just before

44:40

commentating on the Champions League match and

44:43

he happened to hear Hell's Bells

44:45

by ACDC about to be played across

44:47

on the PA and when he recognised

44:49

that it was Hell's Bells by ACDC

44:52

he was uncontrollable. You could

44:55

see them trying to shift him into

44:57

position tell him to do one thing

44:59

or another. He was playing air guitar,

45:01

oddly badly then air drums then talking

45:03

about ACDC at the Apollo Glasgow 1980.

45:05

Loved it. That was the Tweet of

45:07

the week. Agreed actually. Alright,

45:10

a quick one before we end.

45:12

A five-worder. I am our penalty

45:14

taker, said Chelsea's Cole Palmer. Well his

45:16

manager said Cole Palmer is penalty taker. After

45:19

an unseemly on-field spat when his team mates are squabbling

45:21

about who is going to take the spot kick in

45:24

that absolute demolition of Everton this week.

45:26

So I want a five-word statement, no

45:29

explanation, no embellishment that puts another sporting

45:31

dispute to bed right now. Paul, kick

45:33

us off. Eric Tenhag,

45:36

you're fired. I think

45:38

there might be a problem there with the apostrophe but okay.

45:42

Eric Tenhag must stay. I just

45:48

think there's so many managers. We've

45:51

finally got some new ownership. No embellishment. Okay.

45:53

Cat. Greatest British

45:56

sportsperson, Andy Murray. Six.

45:59

That's six. That's terrible.

46:01

That is terrible. Five.

46:04

Sportsperson is one word. Isn't it?

46:07

Yeah. Like sportsman, sportswoman,

46:09

sportsperson. Hang on, hang on. I'm taking

46:11

the point off my thumb. I'm giving you one. There we

46:13

go. And Aaron. Arsenal are

46:16

specialists in failure. LAUGHTER

46:20

All right, any other business? Quite quickly,

46:23

please. Danny. We really need

46:25

to standardise where we're tapping the cards on

46:27

the contactless machine. I'm sorry. Is it

46:30

the top? Is it the side? Is it the

46:32

back? Is it the bottom? Like, just make one

46:34

machine where it's the same place that we need

46:36

to tap all the time. Absolutely sick

46:38

of getting denied for the last Mars bar. And even if

46:40

I can buy it, trying to buy it, like waving it

46:42

about... There was one that

46:45

a guy brought a separate iPad out and I had to

46:47

rub my card on the top of the iPad. It's like

46:49

he does some sort of voodoo sometimes. Just make one

46:52

machine. Like, it's ridiculous.

46:55

Also, my son has just worked out how they

46:57

operate and it's an absolute nightmare. I

47:00

know there's a lot of complaints from fighting

47:02

talk about travel etiquette, but I just wanted

47:04

to give a word to the two gentlemen

47:06

who I sat nearest to on the flight

47:08

home from the Masters last week. The first

47:10

he'd been to the Masters engaged me in

47:13

polite and friendly conversation up until the moment

47:15

the plane pushed back from the stand and

47:17

then nothing. Excellent. We shared a row of

47:19

empty seats. We shared them equally, superb. And

47:21

then a mention to the well-brought up fellow

47:23

who was sitting in the seat in front

47:25

of me who turned around and asked if

47:28

it was OK if he could put a

47:30

seat back once we took off. He did,

47:32

however, blot his copybook by opening the overhead

47:34

lockers carelessly before the

47:36

plane had landed. And something fell out and

47:38

spilt my last sip of red wine, which

47:40

was most upsetting. But I just thought I

47:43

wanted to let the listeners know that are

47:45

good people out there who know how to

47:47

behave on public transport. That's amateur flight

47:49

etiquette. You know what I'm all about on

47:51

flights, Rick. Yeah, I see. I

47:53

see. Let's get from you out. No, it's not actually.

47:55

It's very, very similar to the initial car

47:58

issue, which is why? people

48:00

make you feel guilty sometimes when you're paying

48:02

for things on card and shots. I

48:04

feel like I have to apologise, sorry I've only got

48:06

my card, sorry I've only got contactless. When

48:08

you're paying for something like that's two or

48:10

three quid. Don't make me feel guilty, you're

48:13

still getting my money, you're getting your sale.

48:15

I'm really fed up of it, especially when

48:17

you live in the Shires outside of London.

48:19

People genuinely make you feel really,

48:21

really horrible for paying on card. Football

48:25

cliches at the end of the season. I

48:27

know we've been nowhere without football cliches, there

48:30

would be no post-match interviews. But towards the

48:32

end of the season they get particularly annoying

48:34

and it is the, oh they're

48:36

on the beach, oh they've got, they that

48:39

team, oh they've got their toes in the

48:41

sand. And this week there was

48:43

a new version of it, Theo Walcott. I

48:45

guess he was trying to enliven it a bit but

48:48

he said, oh they've got the flip-flops on. And

48:50

I thought this is absolutely

48:53

unnecessary. Just because it's

48:55

a cliche doesn't mean you have to keep

48:57

going with the cliche and develop it. Don't

48:59

say it anymore. Enough of the work. You've

49:01

done enough Paul, you've done enough, you're in

49:03

the finals don't worry. Aaron and Kat, third,

49:06

to be honest, the debutante's always come first, no

49:08

shame in that Kat. Danny, second

49:11

on 46th, Paul leading

49:13

out on 48th. So Paul and Danny going

49:15

to defend the indefensible, champion

49:18

of champions spot, up for grabs here.

49:20

This is a ludicrous statement, you have to defend

49:23

it however much it hurts and it will hurt.

49:25

If I say I, I mean you. Paul you

49:27

scored the most points so you will go first.

49:30

Paul, you have

49:32

20 seconds on this. 100 days until the

49:35

Olympics. I wish it was

49:37

100 years. There is absolutely

49:39

no point anymore in having

49:42

the Olympics. It is a

49:44

ludicrous thing that goes on

49:46

that costs a lot of money that indulges

49:49

people in sports that there's absolutely no reason

49:51

that they should be calling them sports. It

49:54

brings people from all over the world when

49:56

they could just look at things on the

49:58

television and instead. Look

50:01

at things on the television. It's not a great hit. Danny,

50:05

you have 20 seconds on this. Now

50:07

that Manchester City can't do the trouble, I'm not

50:10

going to watch any more football this season. Yeah,

50:13

I haven't really watched much football this season anyway,

50:15

because Manchester United are the worst, that's the worst

50:17

United team I've seen. I still

50:20

don't want Liverpool to win the league. I know

50:22

that's probably contentious, so I won't watch that, because

50:24

whenever I watch Liverpool win, so I'm not going to

50:26

bother. And I don't really want to see Arsenal fail

50:28

again. So I won't

50:30

watch any more football on TV this

50:32

season. Well,

50:35

I mean, let's be honest, they

50:37

were both crap, weren't they? I

50:40

mean, I've got a... Who do I want in champion or

50:42

champion? I

50:44

think you should give me and Cat an opportunity

50:46

to help. No, no, no. I mean, I think

50:48

you're probably both in any way. I'm going to

50:51

give it to... I'll

50:53

give it to Paul. What the hell? Well

50:55

done, Paul. What a ring and a

50:57

door swing. Yeah, I might see you

51:00

both in champion or champion, so I'm sort of looking forward

51:02

to it. This has been a World's

51:04

End production for BBC Radio 5 Live, and now after

51:06

the news, it's 5 Live Sports. Red

51:08

for Lend, wasn't it? I was

51:11

expecting an Olympic one, because it's like... I

51:14

wasn't expecting a football one. I

51:16

just hope you find your cues. Yeah, so do

51:18

I. Hello, you're listening to the

51:20

podcast extra on Fighting Talk. Cat, Davey, how

51:22

was it for you? I enjoyed

51:24

that, actually. Yeah, I didn't... I don't

51:27

think I made any major stuff-ups, and that's what I

51:29

was aiming for. You did not. The Davey

51:31

appearance. Didn't disgrace yourself. You highlighted all of

51:33

the fantastic marathon fancy dress records, which was

51:35

a highlight for me. Just

51:37

in order to get the practice in, do

51:40

you want to have a go at what would

51:42

have been your defending and defensible? Yeah, go on

51:44

then. Less pressure, but we'll put the clock on

51:46

anyway. So you would have had 20 seconds on

51:48

this. The worst thing about going

51:50

to Augusta is putting up with the gross personal

51:53

habits of the 5 Live commentators and presenters, and

51:55

here is a list of them. The

51:57

list of 5 Live commentators and

52:00

presenters... John Murray, Alastair Bruce Ball,

52:03

Mark Chapman, Ian Carter. I've had to share

52:05

a house with these people for the last

52:07

week or so. One bathroom

52:09

as well amongst them. John Murray

52:11

going into the bathroom every morning

52:13

with Radio 4. You know

52:15

he's in there for a long time. The light

52:17

goes on, the fan starts and all

52:20

of a sudden, Radio 4, you're not getting in the

52:22

bathroom for half an hour. I am absolutely furious

52:24

about that. I thought John Murray was

52:26

listening to Five Live. No, it's Radio 4 in the morning. John!

52:30

Yeah, I know. You could have a word with that man. Sorry.

52:33

He listens to XFM, mate. Oh, it's not

52:35

even called that anyway, so you know it, Jaron. Fox

52:37

on the plinth. Who

52:39

said there was a fox on the plinth as a mascot? Me. Why?

52:43

Because there just is. It's called Olga. I

52:46

don't know why, but they've got... Carlisle's

52:48

a very strange place. I got to the

52:50

ground. They'd evidently never seen someone of my

52:54

ilk before, if you know what I mean. Outched.

52:57

People were all looking at me in a strange way, and I had to pull out my

52:59

stand-alone, which is how I got a bogey.

53:01

But yeah, anyway, I got to the ground, and

53:05

someone carefully pointed out, I'll see you behind

53:07

those trees. That's Scotland great. And welcome to

53:09

Carlisle. They put me next to the

53:11

steam room, the urn. Ironically, I didn't even get a

53:13

cup of tea. But then I pulled my pack lunch

53:16

out. I started eating my sandwiches, and I looked up,

53:18

and on the pitch, in the centre circle, God's

53:20

honest truth, there's like a nice plank of wood

53:23

finished in this deep, oaky mahogany, and

53:29

on top of it was mounted a dead fox. I've sent

53:31

Mike the producer a picture of it, and it's got a

53:33

really perplexed look on its face as well. Oh, I bet

53:35

it has. But yeah, Olga the dead fox is there.

53:38

Oh, I ended up with a mascot for Carlisle. It's

53:40

a very, very strange. It's a really

53:42

weird place. Lovely

53:45

train journey, though. That's about it. That's a long

53:47

train journey. Right, we've got a

53:49

new extra format. Oh, someone's bringing

53:51

in the picture of the fox. Oh

53:55

my God. See what I mean. Right,

53:58

well the picture I've got here... is of a

54:01

mascot who's a

54:04

fox carrying the plinth

54:06

with the dead fox on and if you

54:08

ever seen that there's a bad taxidermy look

54:10

at the face on that fox that's how

54:15

he become the mascot though you have it's like Highlander you

54:18

have to defeat the previous fox then you take him out

54:20

and parade him it's a nice format actually

54:27

right now we have got amazingly yeah

54:30

you can have your phone back a

54:32

new podcast extra format and

54:34

I'm pleased to say that I don't think

54:37

anything else like this is available anywhere so

54:39

we're gonna make a list and it's

54:41

got quite a snazzy title fighting talks five

54:44

live top five favorites and

54:46

this week with the abolition of FA cut

54:48

replays I want to compile a

54:50

list of the five greatest replays

54:54

one each including me shall

54:57

I start I'll start so I am

55:00

cheating a bit with mine because it's not a single

55:02

replay forget extra

55:04

time and penalties and all of that nonsense I'm

55:06

going for the third round January 1979

55:09

the year that

55:11

Arsenal went on to win it against Manchester United

55:14

Arsenal Sheffield Wednesday went to four replays

55:16

one all at Hillsborough one all at

55:18

Highbury two all at Filbert Street a

55:21

barnstorming three all at Filbert Street then

55:23

finally Arsenal getting it done at Filbert

55:25

Street 2-0 13 days

55:28

after the first fixture they literally do

55:30

not make him like that anymore so

55:32

that's mine Danny I'm going with

55:34

the the 1990 FA Cup final replay it's

55:36

the first time like the first time I've

55:38

seen United win a trophy because I think

55:40

it's the first time Alex Ferguson won a

55:42

trophy I think it's that season that Robbins

55:45

saved his job apparently and

55:48

I've never seen a replay in the in a

55:50

final but I didn't even know because obviously I'd

55:52

only watch football like fleetingly so I didn't know

55:54

what replays was really I was only young and

55:56

then the fact that the first game was so

55:59

good I think it was 3-3. Yeah that's

56:01

what I'm saying that the final itself was

56:03

amazing and the replay was horrible. The replay

56:05

was terrible. Not a great answer. Lee Martin,

56:07

no but it's the occasion as well, Lee

56:09

Martin a left back for United, a reserve

56:11

left back who I don't think played after

56:14

that who I also seen like walking around

56:16

Chester not long ago. The reason I bring it

56:18

up it's literally the only time I've ever

56:20

seen my dad happy. Okay, did

56:22

you get it? Cat. Mine

56:28

is the 1999 FA Cup

56:31

semi-final replay Man United 2

56:33

Arsenal 1. The classic.

56:36

Well the epic isn't it? That's what it's known as. I think

56:38

it was the last time as well they ever had a replay

56:40

in the semi-final but for me 1999 was peak you know teenage

56:45

girls sixth form. It

56:47

was that time when football

56:50

was pop culture and pop culture was

56:52

football you know David Beckham, Posh Spice,

56:55

Michael Owen, Jamie Redknapp and Louise. All of

56:57

it was kind of part of my childhood

57:00

and even though I was a Liverpool fan

57:02

and going to Anfield a lot more then

57:04

than I was now and I am now

57:07

and even though Manchester United won it it

57:09

was David Beckham's goal. It was Dennis, I

57:11

loved Dennis Bergkamp even though he played for

57:14

Arsenal and I remember Ryan Giggs tearing off

57:16

his top and sprinting round the pitch and

57:18

celebrating. It's kind of it's

57:20

just childhood teenage nostalgia for

57:22

me is that much. It's

57:25

amazing also to when you think of that

57:27

game the first thing that pops into my

57:29

mind is Ryan Giggs' hairy chest. Do you

57:31

reckon he would have shaved his chest in

57:33

this day and age? He may

57:35

be but then actually it makes it more like if he

57:37

just had a normal smooth chest I don't think it would

57:40

be as memorable. No it's a sign of the

57:42

times, it takes you back. I miss that game

57:44

because a girl I liked asked me to go

57:46

to recreation of the Battle of Bosworth. What?

57:50

Really? I just messed it

57:52

up. Some of your dates you

57:54

need to be asking yourself some serious

57:56

questions before you say yes. I've got a choice though.

57:58

I've got to get that last bar please. When

58:01

you say a recreation of the Battle of Bosworth, were

58:03

you watching or did you have

58:05

to take on rules? Oh I was

58:07

just doing a joke. To be part of the recreation. I

58:10

do like battle recreators, you just watch, you just watch

58:12

guys who are... Maybe you could get

58:14

involved. Yeah you can but I think you'd train. I don't

58:16

think, do you need to train? Like they're not just going

58:18

to give you a sword, like I think as

58:21

blunt as they are. Look, I am completely backing

58:23

you to be part of you know, Oliver Cromwell's

58:25

army somewhere. I can't turn off my new balance,

58:27

like I reckon all those guys... No

58:30

I reckon it's all theirs, I reckon it's all their

58:32

own gear. It's not a supply road gear. That's

58:34

how deep they are in it, it's like why would

58:36

I be doing this if I haven't got my own

58:39

gear? Yeah. Maybe. How long's the last? You get given,

58:41

well I mean, 100 years war. I mean you got

58:43

given for a walk, didn't you? You've

58:46

got to pick your battles quite carefully. Paul,

58:50

best replay please. Mine

58:53

also features Manchester United and it is

58:55

the 1983 FA Cup Final. Which

59:00

is probably the first time I became

59:03

aware that United were my

59:06

team. I hadn't, I was very young

59:08

and wasn't totally following football. But

59:11

it was, I remember it being

59:13

a really quite tight game. United

59:15

not being very good, there's an occuring theme in

59:17

my life. And

59:21

Brighton almost winning it close to

59:23

the end. But then the replay

59:25

was in the same week. That was a curious

59:27

thing about it. It was on a Thursday night

59:29

and there wasn't a lot of football on TV

59:31

in those days. And suddenly

59:33

here was two massive matches on TV that

59:35

you could watch enough of. This is all

59:37

right. And also looking

59:39

back, there were over 90,000

59:41

people at each of the matches. So

59:44

even on the replay and the Thursday, there

59:46

was still this massive fan who were

59:49

obviously just taking off work

59:51

going in. So that I

59:53

think, because it

59:55

was significant for United, it's significant for

59:57

me. And it was, you know.

1:00:00

made it Ron I

1:00:02

can see winning a trophy and doing something good.

1:00:05

I think about my house keys again

1:00:07

there. Aaron. Unbelievable. I'm

1:00:11

going back to an era put simply when Man

1:00:13

City were crap and

1:00:16

this is going back to what 2004 4th

1:00:18

of February 2004 Tottenham 3 Man

1:00:21

City 4 Spurs had this habit of going

1:00:23

three Nillupen games and bottling it they've done

1:00:25

it a few years before against

1:00:27

Manchester United and this time it

1:00:30

was it was city Spurs 3 Nillup

1:00:32

led the King Robbie Keenan Christian Ziger

1:00:35

scoring for Tottenham who were then

1:00:37

managed by David Pley

1:00:39

and and then it didn't get any

1:00:42

better for City Nicholas and Nelka

1:00:44

injured in the 27th minute Joey

1:00:46

Barton sent off Kel Suprise but

1:00:48

then here comes the fight

1:00:51

back Sylvan Distand scores just after halftime

1:00:53

Paul Boswell with 20 minutes to go

1:00:55

Shaun Wright Phillips with 10 minutes to

1:00:57

go and then John Mackin remember him

1:00:59

he started in create man united scored

1:01:02

a hat full of goals at Preston

1:01:04

North End City paid five million pounds

1:01:06

for him and

1:01:08

yeah he scored a cracking goal at the end

1:01:11

to win it 4-3 I mean this was

1:01:13

pre the days of City winning like the

1:01:15

treble double or the double treble or the

1:01:17

quadruple whatever you want to call it and

1:01:19

and the oil riches this is when they

1:01:21

were really like scraping the barrel you had

1:01:23

some big names in there but you also

1:01:25

had some real real guff like Arnie Guta

1:01:27

Harrison in golf room yeah

1:01:31

yeah he

1:01:35

only played one game for City oh big Arnie

1:01:37

but um yeah there you go when they'll

1:01:39

be through to describe to be

1:01:41

described as guff anyway we've got

1:01:43

the the definitive five greatest

1:01:46

FA Cup replays and they

1:01:48

are four replays between

1:01:50

Arsenal and Sheffield Wednesday in January 1979 third round

1:01:52

the replay of the

1:01:55

1990 FA Cup finalist in Crystal Palace

1:01:57

amongst United the 1999 semi finalist

1:02:00

Manchester United in Arsenal, the 1983

1:02:02

FA Cup Final Replay between Manchester

1:02:04

United and Brighton and the

1:02:06

2004 game Dunnebop Round

1:02:08

Manchester City against Tottenham which finished 4-3

1:02:11

Man City. That

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was good timing wasn't it? Now let's go home.