0:00

This is the BBC. Good

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morning, welcome. Thank you. Thank you.

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In its somewhat checkered career, Fighting

0:35

Talk is, I think, rightfully proud

0:37

of its claim to fame of

0:39

being the first ever sports podcast.

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This is before the word podcast

0:44

was even a thing. It didn't

0:46

exist. We were an MP3 digital

0:48

download way back in October 2004.

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It's part of a handful of experiments. And

0:53

look at us now, still in the

0:55

top 10 if you use quite specific

0:57

category parameters. And host to

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the Fighting Talk end of year podcasters

1:01

podcast. But also on the radio.

1:04

But with a podcast extra. For those who

1:06

listen to the podcast. And plugging four other

1:08

podcasts with four podcasters on the panel. So

1:11

yes, I would say we have embraced the

1:13

medium. First up from

1:15

Bunce's Tales of the Extraordinary and

1:17

the Five Live Boxing Podcast with

1:19

Steve Bunce. Any guesses yet? It's

1:21

Steve Bunce! How are you Bunce?

1:26

Oh, absolutely fantastic. MP3. That takes me

1:28

back a bit. Yeah, mini discs. Yeah,

1:30

and no, that's where I didn't move

1:32

to me. I stuck MP3. Yeah,

1:35

it's still MP3 on you. I'm

1:37

still MP3. Plugging away MP3. I've

1:42

just been glancing over it. Everyone comes

1:44

in with it. They prepare in a different way for the

1:46

show, of course. Some people come in with

1:48

the printed notes. Some people have got it on their phones.

1:51

Bunce's got a kind of, what looks

1:53

like a sort of murderer's notebook. Just

1:56

scrawled all over a newspaper.

1:59

Crossing out like... someone's eyes I mean

2:01

it's really genuinely terrifying like a savant.

2:03

It's actually Michael Cane's eyes. Michael that

2:05

is so disrespectful. It's really dangerous. I

2:08

listen to that, I don't know, I

2:10

just always write on a paper. Yeah.

2:13

It's just an old thing. I don't know if it's because I

2:15

was poor when I was young and I had to write on

2:17

a paper I don't know but I always write on a newspaper.

2:19

Yeah and it just makes you feel good, feel right. Especially

2:22

when I get on a train and I've forgotten my pad. It

2:24

turns out. I

2:28

genuinely sort of feel buncy with you that you

2:30

could pick any 45 minutes

2:33

of you speaking as you go about your day

2:35

and that would be a decent podcast. I'd like

2:37

to think so. Yeah. You

2:40

and Charlie have been really nice. Yeah we're

2:42

thinking, we'll just get a mic on you all the time. We're

2:46

all signing up for them. Next

2:49

to Buncy from the Five

2:51

Live Footballers Football Podcast, Cannon

2:53

Wilson and Michael Antonio at

2:56

Busy Playing Football. So welcome back to Fighting

2:58

Talk, Ricky Heywood Williams. Hey

3:00

dear Rick. Very well thank you mate,

3:02

very well. I'm a glab of punishment man. I'm

3:04

a glab of punishment. But I love this show.

3:06

I love it. There you go. I

3:09

love it. I don't see you too well but

3:11

I'm here. You're just trying to butter me up. Drop

3:13

a point off early. Buncy

3:15

came in and gave you a hug

3:17

earlier. You know what? Do

3:20

you know what? Yeah I don't like a grass. I don't

3:22

like it. But you're right, he came in and hugged me.

3:24

That's the point of you Buncy. Hang on, I've given you

3:26

a point. No, hang on, take that off, take that off.

3:30

Done. Alongside Ricky,

3:32

she is part of the triple

3:34

pun titled No Balls Podcast, former

3:36

England spinner and member of the

3:38

TMS team, Alex Hartley. Just

3:46

enjoy this for a bit. Just

3:48

feel it. What

3:53

a treat. Well an absolute treat for you.

3:55

What an extra. Yeah. Now

3:58

just before we came to the end. Literally just before

4:00

we came on, you took quite an important

4:02

call out when you were talking about how

4:04

you might not be able to do a

4:06

job because you're off to do five. Minus

4:08

the point. And that is correct. No

4:12

one likes the fragger. You

4:14

are so predictable. Well, I told

4:16

you I was going to do it and I really had to vie through. Now,

4:19

we are lucky to have you on, Alex, because as

4:21

I understand it, the Cricket World Cup is still going

4:23

on, isn't it? No, that finished. Did it? Yeah. I

4:25

thought it was never going to finish. Sorry. It

4:28

feels like it went on forever. It feels like it

4:30

went on seven weeks. But it was actually only seven

4:32

weeks. No, it was not only seven weeks. No

4:34

way, that was only seven weeks. Lovely

4:37

to have you here. Finally, from

4:39

Five Lives Rugby Union Weekly Podcast

4:42

and the only panelist here to

4:44

be making their debut, England international

4:46

Danny Kan. Nice.

4:50

Yeah, I mean, it's on them. Yeah, it's on them. How

4:53

are you, mate? You good? I'm good, mate.

4:55

Finally, we made the cut. It's been a long

4:57

time. Yeah, it's actually that. You were avoiding, Colin,

4:59

but you're like me. Immediate

5:02

point. Thank you. Are

5:04

you feeling a bit nervous? I am a bit nervous. This

5:07

is high quality. This is high quality. There's some

5:09

experience in there. I'm looking down the end of

5:11

the room at Buncey. There's some experience campaigners. Here

5:13

is a losing in my ear. Okay,

5:16

good. Okay,

5:18

let's dive in. And

5:20

we'll start with a tribute to, I think it's

5:23

on actually. So we're going

5:25

to look back at 2023 and

5:27

I want to hear about the sports event or story that made you

5:30

realize you just don't

5:32

care because it's called Danny care. So

5:36

Ricky, for 2023,

5:38

the story that I

5:40

just didn't care about is the

5:43

Tyson Fury story. Now, it's something that

5:45

I did not care about. It

5:47

pains me to say it because I think that Tyson is a great

5:49

fighter, arguably the best of his generation. The

5:51

man who defied the odds back in

5:53

February 2020 and rose from the canvas after

5:56

that epic knockdown in the first world of

5:58

flight. But if we talk about. Tyson

6:00

Fury in 2023, what has he

6:02

actually done? He's given us a reality

6:05

TV show, he's fought a UFC fighter

6:07

which arguably, arguably most people said he

6:09

lost that fight as well. He

6:14

made a lot of money, he made a lot of

6:16

money, yes he did make a lot of money, but

6:18

in terms of like the legacy of what we should

6:20

be looking at in terms of one of the greatest

6:22

fighters of his generation, I just

6:24

think it was a bit of a farce and we all

6:26

wanted to see the AJ fight, it didn't happen, but I

6:28

will bring it back slightly, at least he's

6:30

got the music fight on the board.

6:33

So yeah, true, Bunch of

6:35

you, I feel like Ricky's coming for your job there, great

6:37

description of Tyson Fury's year, what are you going for? Not

6:40

that because that would have been a good one

6:42

to do, if obvious. Okay. January 29 in Germany,

6:44

it finished and I'm never going to get involved

6:46

again and I used to love it, the lewd

6:48

world championship and I'll tell you why I used

6:50

to love it, because I used to have a

6:53

man called George Hackle. Now George Hackle might just

6:55

be the most decorated athlete in any sport in

6:57

the history of sport, okay, he wasn't a great

6:59

interview, in fact, I'm

7:01

not going to lie, he was an East German

7:03

who defected to the west and won just about everything,

7:06

over a 40 year period the man was a genius,

7:08

although he did just sit on something that went down

7:10

the hill very fast, so you can do it into

7:12

your 50s and you can do it very well, I'll

7:14

give you that. This year, wasn't you joking? No, you're

7:17

joking, now you're going 90 miles an hour. This

7:20

year didn't work, didn't fire, nah

7:22

same swiss guys won it, it just didn't work,

7:25

so the luge, I'm going to tell you, I'm

7:27

burying the luge world championships. Hey, got done with

7:29

the luge, everyone's disappointed with the luge

7:31

this year, that, I don't want to give you

7:33

guidance here, but that's quite an obvious answer. You're

7:35

a luge, aren't you? Alex. There's only one answer

7:37

for this

7:40

isn't it, it's Max Verstrappen winning the Formula

7:43

One yet again. You can't call him

7:45

Verstrappen, I mean

7:47

that is an absolute, the guys won, that many races,

7:49

you can still call him Verstrappen. Max,

7:53

have you called him Max? Yeah, I call him Max, yeah.

7:55

Famously friendly, fun people, the

7:57

Dutch, he's grumpy and arrogant.

8:00

and in a sport that is driving a

8:02

car at 200mph, he makes it

8:04

look very boring. Can

8:06

I give Alex an extra point or tip? No, no!

8:10

Because he won it on a Saturday about two and

8:12

a half months ago, he didn't even win it on

8:14

a crack in the final weekend, if you don't mind

8:16

me saying so. That is absolutely fine. There we go.

8:19

If I'd have got you earlier, I could have shared that. But

8:22

you were busy, of course. Danny.

8:24

Right, mine's one I reckon you've spoken about

8:27

a lot on here, but I am sick

8:29

to death of hearing about VAR. Ooh,

8:33

yes. Whether it's every

8:35

single conflict that has been done by... All

8:37

that money you've got in football, right, Rick? All

8:39

that money you've got in football. My little old

8:42

sport, rugby, with no money, we're in financial ruin.

8:44

We can afford a little

8:46

microphone. The referees

8:48

can use, where everybody in the stadium and everyone

8:50

at home can understand what on earth's

8:52

going on in that seven minutes they decide if

8:54

it's a penalty or not. So VAR for me,

8:56

get on with it or get rid of it.

8:59

Yeah, absolutely bang on. I mean, obviously I think it's going

9:01

to live with me from those answers, is Maxwell Strap on?

9:05

How do you say it is? There's

9:07

just no R, is the thing. It's a

9:09

dapper. I like your book.

9:12

I don't know what there isn't an R in it, is there? Have you ever written

9:14

it down? No, well there is one, but not

9:16

where you thought it was. But it is better,

9:18

it's funny, isn't it? Well, he's got Maxwell Strap

9:20

on, I mean, it's fantastic. But

9:22

he's not, unfortunately. He made the boy entertaining.

9:25

Question number two, then it comes from you,

9:27

the listeners, and we've got Chris

9:29

from Norfolk on the line. Hello, Chris. Hello,

9:32

Rick. Nice to hear from you. What do

9:34

you do, Chris? What do I do? Well,

9:37

actually, I'm told that this edition

9:39

of Fighting Talk is a podcaster's

9:41

special. That's right. I don't really

9:43

know why I haven't invited on here, because

9:45

I was in my drive. Oh, yeah. By

9:47

a number of popular podcasters. Oh, you're Savage's

9:49

Sidekick. Savage's Sidekick, yeah,

9:52

that's a bit of a low, isn't

9:54

it? And that's true. But as

9:56

long as you're all happy, that's the main thing.

9:58

Oh, very, very happy. Very happy indeed.

10:00

Chris, I'll have you on Chris. Good to be

10:02

on you. You want to... one... ish. This

10:05

is your intro music. Okay,

10:10

well, do you want to hear my question then? No,

10:13

I'll ask for your question when I want it, Chris. I

10:16

want you to listen to this song down on the

10:18

farm because you live on a farm. Got

10:21

it? Have you got it? Okay,

10:24

good. Okay,

10:26

now I would like to hear your

10:28

question please. I'm often

10:30

perceived as being a bit

10:32

grumpy and opinionated for the

10:34

sake of it. Correct. But

10:37

let me assure you that I'm actually very

10:39

cheerful and I believe in everything I say

10:42

and at home I'm known, amongst other

10:44

things, as Mr. Impartial. But... What

10:47

are so many other things? There

10:49

you go. That's for another

10:52

show. But who in the

10:54

world of sport is genuinely

10:56

misunderstood? It's actually

10:58

a good question, surprisingly, from you, Chris. And

11:01

I will start with Danny, most misunderstood person

11:03

in sport. Yeah, I'm going to go with...

11:05

he's a good friend of mine. He's a

11:07

huge, huge man. It's Joe

11:10

Marla, my England and the Harlequin's team

11:12

mate. Joe, I think

11:14

a lot of people look at Joe and

11:16

instantly don't like him until

11:18

they meet him or you listen to him and you understand him.

11:21

Now, Joe has got a successful podcast.

11:23

He loves his podcast. He used to

11:25

park his van at a local Esso

11:27

station to nick their Wi-Fi, because it

11:29

was better than his. And he used

11:32

to block his... That is likeable.

11:34

So he'd be in his van. He got moved

11:36

a couple of times. But he's one of the

11:38

biggest men you will ever meet. But

11:40

with the heart of gold, deep down he's a big softie. We

11:43

had a little cry at the World Cup when we knocked out

11:45

by him. Oh, you guys! When

11:48

you were going to bring the house? Sorry, sorry.

11:50

I didn't know if you'd see that. Welcome

11:54

back with me. Now,

11:56

that's a shame. My

11:58

son has actually written his... Christmas listing.

12:01

PS first thing, lots of

12:03

A4 paper he wants to

12:05

draw. If

12:08

you've got any spare kits onto PUNTC.

12:10

Then he goes less humble, he goes

12:13

loads of games on my PS5. Yeah

12:15

that's it, but Joe Marla is my

12:17

most misunderstood man. That's good. PUNTC. Frank

12:21

Bruno, and I'll tell you for what. We

12:23

all tend to think about Frank as this kind of

12:25

pantomime figure and a figure that's had all the the

12:28

mental breakdown so we consider him in some ways

12:30

that he hasn't quite cracked it and we have

12:32

a lot of sympathy for him, we have a

12:34

lot of respect for him, but it's the wrong

12:36

kind of respect. We should respect him for what

12:39

he did. He struggled up from parts of South

12:41

London that are fairly grim, trust me, and he

12:43

had to fight his heart out just to get

12:45

to where he was, just to become the comic

12:47

character he became. He had to fight for years

12:49

and years and years. He had to have when

12:51

he was a baby a retinal operation to

12:53

continue his pro career and keep the dream

12:55

alive. He failed to win the world title

12:57

three times before eventually winning it in his

13:00

fourth time only to find out that he

13:02

had to then fight a man called Mike

13:04

Tyson almost immediately and lose it. He's a

13:06

proud man, he's a fantastic father, sure he's

13:08

troubled, sure he's been in pantomime, but you

13:10

know what, he's no joke. Frank Bruno. I

13:12

give you Frank Bruno, I should say. And

13:14

also, he rocked Tyson. Yeah,

13:16

he did. Get him Frank! Shout

13:19

it Harry. He pushed you out of here with the

13:21

beef, let's get it right. Can

13:23

I just say, I feel like I read the

13:25

question wrong because listening to Buzzfeed has been there,

13:27

I mean I'm sold by his own. It's like

13:29

silk. I went for an idiot in

13:32

Joe Marley. He's done that, I could

13:34

listen to you for days then. I'll

13:36

not mess you though, it's just possible. One

13:39

of my favourite things is when panellists

13:41

interpret a question completely different. Alex.

13:46

I'm going a true legend of

13:48

the women's game, footballer Megan Rapinoff.

13:51

Now for me, she has put or

13:53

helped put women's football on the map.

13:57

However, she's got this reputation

13:59

of being... unpleasant, arrogant and

14:01

a very unkind person, which for me

14:03

seems slightly harsh as such a trail

14:05

day at Blazer of women's sports. Excellent,

14:09

excellent point. Big up, Meghan. Ricky.

14:12

So I've gone for the most

14:14

misunderstood person for me right now

14:17

is Graham Potter. Now, Saksa's Chelsea

14:19

manager in Acrimonia started after just six

14:21

months in the job. By

14:23

the new regime that actually put him

14:25

in the position in the first place,

14:28

six months in the job, they spent

14:30

$300 million on eight players at the

14:32

time. Many think that the hierarchy

14:34

at Chelsea bought most of those players just

14:36

for themselves, not for actually what Potter needed

14:38

and like his his philosophy and whatnot. We

14:41

know that he could do the job because he

14:43

absolutely smashed it at Brighton. Brighton have gone on

14:45

to do great things as well. He had to

14:47

go abroad, learned his trade abroad. He's come back

14:49

to the UK and people are starting to think

14:51

of him as a bit of a failure when,

14:53

you know, a year ago we were talking about

14:55

him as possibly being a replacement for Gareth Southgate

14:57

in the national team. I think he's one of

14:59

the most misunderstood people in football right now. Four

15:02

very solid answers there for you to mull

15:04

over, Chris. We've got Potter, we've got Rapinoe,

15:06

we've got Marla, we've got Bruno, but who

15:08

are you going to award the three bonus

15:10

points to? This is a tough one. It's

15:14

not going to be to Danny K's Joe

15:16

Marla, anybody who parks the van near

15:18

his local ESO and Nick's Wi-Fi after that.

15:22

Yeah, not on your watch. Does

15:24

that mean something? Can

15:26

I just add something? I don't misunderstand

15:29

that. Graham Potter got paid 10

15:31

million to not do his job. Oh, Danny! Danny!

15:36

I'm so sorry, below the belt. Well, that only

15:38

leads to him by the end. That's

15:40

a good point from Danny, actually. So

15:44

I'm going to rule Graham Potter out. Oh, Danny,

15:46

you're coming. So, Meghan

15:48

Rapinoe or Frank Bruno. I'm

15:53

a huge fan of Frank Bruno and

15:55

I'm going to go with Buncy on

15:57

this one for the three bonus points.

15:59

Thank you. Yeah, well,

16:02

three bonus points. It was beautifully,

16:04

beautifully argued. Before

16:07

you go, remind me of your lethal gold stats

16:09

for Chelsea. Chris? Well, I

16:11

got three in 39, I think. That's

16:14

not the disaster. Okay, one every

16:16

13. It's

16:18

not great. Anyway, as I

16:20

say, Chris, lovely to chat to you. Andrew,

16:27

remind me of your gold stats. More,

16:30

more. Okay, cut his

16:32

line. Question

16:38

number three. Time

16:41

now to crown, I think, the

16:43

least prestigious end of year award in sport. The

16:45

Fighting Talk Man or Woman of the

16:48

Year, starting with you, Ricky.

16:50

Okay, so I've gone for Gary Neville.

16:52

Big year for Gary Neville. He's

16:55

joined the team on Dragons Den. He was

16:57

a big part of the Beckham documentary, recently

16:59

changed his support for his views on VAR in

17:01

the last few days. But

17:04

the reason why I'm going for Gary Neville,

17:06

nominating Gary Neville, I saw Jamie Carragher do

17:08

a bit with him on their podcast, alongside

17:11

David Beckham, Ian Wright, Roy Keane, Jill

17:13

Scott. And

17:15

Carragher pulls out an old interview from

17:17

an old football magazine from 1996, where

17:19

Gary was asked the question, who would

17:21

have been his ideal date at the

17:24

time? Now, bearing in mind, in 1996, Bex,

17:26

his best friend, had just got with Victoria

17:28

Beckham. And Neville says

17:30

that he was famously there when David

17:32

Beckham first saw Victoria, right? So

17:34

the question was asked of David Beckham. He said, you know

17:37

what, I don't want to get Gary in trouble. I don't

17:39

really know what to say here. It

17:41

goes over to Gary Neville. And his response

17:43

was, I wasn't in a relationship,

17:45

but maybe it was baby's wife. So

17:49

absolutely off the wall, Roy

17:51

Keane was an absolute hysteric.

17:54

And anybody that can make Roy Keane laugh, for me,

17:56

deserves a nomination. Yeah, he's a good nomination. Danny,

17:59

I'm going. I've had a man crush on since

18:02

Van Wilder party liaison film turn out.

18:05

Oh, it's a good film, I've rated

18:07

it. It's Ryan Reynolds, it's the man

18:09

for me that has brought some life

18:11

into football. What he's done at Wrexham

18:13

is incredible. The story the other week

18:15

about Atkinson's family putting their prices up

18:17

by a fiver, him coming straight back

18:19

and saying well in the return leg,

18:22

winning those not cars by a fiver.

18:24

I mean, I love what he's done for football

18:27

and I think we all love Ryan Reynolds. I

18:29

don't know anybody that doesn't love Ryan Reynolds. So for

18:31

me, Ryan Reynolds is a man. Yeah,

18:33

hard to argue. Alex. I'm

18:36

going Alex Carey, the Australian wicket

18:38

keeper when he famously threw down

18:40

the stumps and ran out Johnny

18:42

Besto which reignited England's Ashes campaign.

18:45

Stuart Broad openly said he

18:48

lost his rag, he was abusing the

18:50

Australians and he's never been so angry

18:52

and it also made great entertainment and

18:54

was hilarious. Yeah, it was

18:56

very, very funny. Then he started

18:58

to throw Paz a few men. Buncey.

19:02

Okay, so the history is two dead men, a billion

19:04

dollars generated in revenue from what

19:06

he's put on. He's 92

19:08

years of age and he's just launched a

19:11

brand new fighting tournament in America. I'll give

19:13

you not just the man of the year,

19:15

I might give you the man of nearly

19:17

a century, Don King the promoter, still around,

19:20

untouchable, unmovable, unkillable, although he

19:22

does struggle to get through airports because

19:24

he's got so much lead, shot four

19:26

times, stabbed, attacked with an axe, a

19:28

proper axe, not like a pickaxe, not

19:30

a show axe, but a real axe,

19:32

i.e. out in the woods, chopping

19:34

wood and then chopping Don King, didn't

19:37

work, front of his house blown off,

19:39

back of his house blown off, no

19:41

fewer than four cars blown up, Don

19:44

King still going strong. How can

19:46

we compete with this guy? I

19:49

just want to see a photo of Don King's house,

19:51

that's all I want to see. Well

19:56

he's just sort of got the middle bit

19:58

really. What did you

20:00

write? I don't think

20:02

I've actually been mad. Alright,

20:07

question number four. Obviously, today

20:10

we're represented by experts in boxing, cricket,

20:12

rugby union. I've got Ricky here as

20:14

well. So please tell us someone

20:16

from your sport that I might not have

20:18

heard of yet, but will have done by

20:20

New Year's Eve 2024. And

20:24

it's a quickie, please, Bumsie. Sonny Edwards,

20:26

a flyweight boxer from London who's based in Sheffield.

20:28

He's a world champion. He's going to defend his

20:30

title, Massify in Phoenix in December. Next year

20:32

he'll be in Superfice. He only weighs half

20:34

of what Tyson Fury weighs, but

20:37

he's a much better fight. Sonny Edwards. I

20:39

had already heard of him. That's the

20:41

only issue there, Ricky. I'm

20:44

going for Dane Scarlett, a prolific goalscorer

20:46

at youth level for Tottenham and for

20:48

England as well. He's 18

20:50

years of age. Tipped

20:52

to one day replace Harry Kane in

20:55

terms of most goals

20:57

scored for the Lizzie White. Also,

21:00

Jason Marino described him as phenomenal

21:02

and a diamond in the rough. Sounds like

21:04

a good one. And I hadn't heard of

21:06

him. Alex? Mahika Gore. She's 6'4",

21:09

17 years old. That's

21:11

good. That is great. That is neat.

21:13

We've got a song about her. Mahika will bowl four in a

21:15

row, so make that don't rhyme. I can't remember

21:17

what it goes like. I've retired. It's been a

21:19

while. She's 17, 6'4", left arm team. She's

21:24

going to be the best bowler in the world

21:26

and she's English. Massive, massive claim, Danny.

21:28

Mine's a lad called Ollie Lawrence, played in the World Cup.

21:30

Don't know if I mentioned I was in the World Cup

21:32

this year. Playing along, she had Ollie Lawrence. He was on

21:34

the bench a lot of the time with me, but I

21:36

think this six stations, which is going to be epic because

21:38

you've got three or four teams scored by the World Cup,

21:41

I think Ollie Lawrence is going to play a big part

21:43

for England. Okay, let's have a look at the scores. I'm

21:46

going back to between me and the production team, whether this

21:48

bed is too long and it is. Now,

21:51

as expected, really, it's tight between

21:53

three of you. Alex

21:55

has got 15, Danny and Ricky tied on 16.

21:58

Fancy. streets

22:00

ahead in every way on 20. But you can

22:02

really mean, you can really mean, you've got

22:05

to believe it. I don't think there's any

22:07

stop in it. No, you're probably right. You

22:09

can't. What I meant was you cannot really mean, you might

22:11

as well give up. Time for

22:13

a bit of real fight now and it

22:15

is inspired by this. Hello

22:19

and welcome back to NoBalls the Cricket podcast

22:21

with me Kate Croft and you

22:23

Alex Hartley. I'm Steve Bunk and this

22:25

is Five Live Boxing. Hello

22:28

and welcome back to the Footballers Football Podcast.

22:31

Danny Care, Chris Jones. On Rugby

22:33

Union. Rugby Union Weekly.

22:36

From BBC Sport and BBC

22:38

Radio 5 Live. Couldn't

22:40

find a single click where you actually spoke unfortunately

22:42

Danny. That's a bit weird. Surely

22:45

I need a point for you. Well

22:49

I don't think you get a point for that. So

22:54

starting to plug your podcast in a

22:56

roundabout way, we'll get Chris Jones to

22:58

do your little answer if you want. Tell

23:01

us not only why it's the best but

23:03

also why it is so much better than

23:06

the others. And

23:08

do it quickly please. Alex. We

23:10

plan absolutely nothing. We talk of all

23:13

things from pooing in sandwich bags to

23:15

playing in the most recent ashes. We've

23:20

got no men. We've got the best

23:22

title. It's a pun about men's genitals.

23:24

Your titles are weak and boring and

23:26

too straightforward. Do you know why

23:28

it's a cracking title? Danny, best

23:30

of luck. Yeah, I actually am

23:33

on this podcast. So I don't know

23:35

what's happening here. But commitment and content

23:37

from the Rugby Union Weekly team. Ridiculously

23:39

long World Cup. 7

23:41

weeks long we did 61 pods during the World

23:43

Cup. Chris Jones the badger

23:45

we called him because he's of the black and the white

23:47

hair. Now it's all white. He's that stressed. And he lives

23:49

in a den as well. He does live in a den.

23:52

He did 55 out of 61 pods. If

23:54

you listen to us you get

23:56

in content every single day. Did you make it into

23:59

double digits? I

24:01

did five whilst playing still at the World Cup.

24:03

That's the commitment. That's how you played at the

24:05

World Cup. No, I did. He said I mentioned

24:07

it. He said I mentioned it. Yes, I'm going

24:09

to put it there. Thank you. Ricky.

24:12

I've got to say, working with Premier League footballers,

24:14

it's like an insight into the dressing room. The

24:16

banter is absolutely top. Just to give you a

24:18

bit of an insight, Callum has been

24:20

injured the last couple of episodes. He hasn't

24:22

been on the last one. So

24:24

when we've recorded the most recent one, the first thing he said

24:27

was he comes when he goes, I heard you guys have been

24:29

missing me. Michael replies, like your team

24:31

on the field. And that's the level that

24:33

we're talking about. That's what I'm talking about.

24:35

They've always got amazing stories. And it's just

24:38

nice to see how the Premier League footballer

24:40

goes about their day-to-day lives. There

24:42

was one week where Michael forgot

24:44

his laptop. So he was on

24:46

like a way day one week. So

24:50

he gets his laptop, so he couldn't log on. So

24:52

he goes out, buys a brand new laptop, but doesn't

24:54

realise it. It takes about an hour to set up

24:56

a laptop. But just easy,

24:58

like, that's a lot from Premier League football. They look

25:00

true, just having money. Yeah, I should have said that

25:03

is actually not very likeable. All

25:06

related. Yeah. Everyone

25:08

listening and the cost of living crisis, but it's okay,

25:10

a couple of us are doing fine, actually. It was

25:13

before the cause of your life. No, before the... Okay,

25:15

all forgiven. All forgiven. Bouncy. So banter,

25:17

poo bags and numbers. I'll give you

25:19

some proper numbers if I can, okay?

25:21

If I'm not mistaken, these all involved

25:23

with team sports, these three over here.

25:25

They're all involved with sports that last

25:27

at least 80 minutes, 90 minutes,

25:29

sometimes five days, am I correct? Am I right in

25:32

saying that? Okay, well, how about me? One person I

25:34

have to chase, the fight might have lasted 15 seconds,

25:37

and I'm all on my own. How do I

25:39

deliver what I deliver each year when I'm dealing

25:41

with just one person? If you think about it,

25:43

Luke, stick me in another arena. Think

25:45

about anything else. Can you imagine you stick me in

25:47

another arena? Can you imagine?

25:49

I'm flying. Can you imagine me?

25:52

That's a lucky one, Pop. I

25:55

think it is our fault, dude. It's not my fault.

25:57

If it sounds like it's not my fault, it's a

25:59

long way... Mikey stood up, posing

26:01

like he didn't believe in it.

26:07

Shucky winter weather. Is

26:09

it? For the first time, we'll be back

26:11

with more Mikey talk after this. I'm Troy

26:13

Daney. And I'm Jermaine DeFoe. And Football First

26:16

is back. Football First. From

26:18

BBC Mania 5 Live. In

26:21

this podcast, we reveal that Football First have shaped our

26:23

careers. And the first time we got dropped. And the

26:25

first time we missed an absolute centre. I missed them

26:27

three years ago. Apparently, I started laughing afterwards. It was

26:29

just someone's mirror. The first time we got sold. And

26:33

the first time Jermaine named dropped a world famous

26:35

rapper. When I signed for Toronto, Drake phoned me,

26:37

yeah? You look like a sicky though. Why? Because

26:39

you just fully dropped Drake, told you. My

26:41

nan text me in between this. Football

26:44

First from BBC 5 Live. Listen

26:46

on BBC Sounds. Welcome

27:01

back to Fighting Sort. Welcome back to

27:03

our panel from the Footballers Football Podcast.

27:05

Ricky Haver Williams from the Rugby Union

27:07

Weekly Podcast. It's Chris Jones, sorry, Danny

27:09

Care. From the 5 Live Boxing Podcast

27:11

is Steve Bunce. And Alex Hartley

27:14

is here from the No Balls Cricket Podcast. At

27:16

times that we couldn't afford Cape Cross. All

27:18

of those podcasts, I've been told I have

27:20

to say this, are available to listen to

27:22

on BBC Sounds. And it's game changer time.

27:25

Five points for one of you, none for the rest.

27:28

And I'm going to be playing podcast commissioner

27:30

here as I ask for your

27:33

idea for a sports podcast and who

27:35

would host it. What would the theme

27:37

be? I'm going to start with Danny,

27:39

I think. Okay, this isn't a pod yet,

27:42

but it's going to be. I want to

27:44

bring back proper Saturday night TV. I'm

27:47

sick to death of what I'm watching on my

27:49

screens on a Saturday night. Gone are the days

27:51

you go to blockbusters with your mum and your

27:53

dad. you pick up a movie, a bit of

27:55

popcorn, you go home, you watch Big Break, you

27:57

watch Gladiators and you watch Blind Date. Those

28:00

that's the nineties that is the is

28:02

the ultimate shouted someone to bring about

28:04

but my pitches to bring back I

28:06

think the Great Escape Shovel sandwiches fun

28:08

That's what I want to do with

28:10

my shop. Brown shop will go get

28:12

because he still not get about the

28:14

if not I'm happy to house as

28:16

I need a job soon. Soap opera

28:18

touch Sharpies available for ah I just

28:20

pictured us and it's spoofing great. So

28:22

imagine size and fury chasing around Jessica

28:24

Ennis Hill. This for a fight ensues

28:26

line to let since I can go

28:28

on got ya ya? Ya then once

28:31

I growled a rehash, I thought this

28:33

again and she's obviously common say is

28:35

on we are not to have an

28:37

Arctic Monkeys evolved it all. Those are

28:39

the opposite of that. I allies yeah

28:41

so sexy V show And then the

28:43

for five of us turned into a

28:45

podcast and we might millions think is

28:47

the Atlanta A Lot. The sound of

28:49

my two million Cars are right Alex

28:51

right. We're all athletes with always

28:53

wanted to be better and how

28:55

to successfully t in sport how

28:57

satisfy lot of the onset. Of

29:01

our skin as. Adam

29:03

Smith saving horn at. Out

29:05

of the. Well, I

29:07

absolutely love it as best as I

29:09

thought I might. Proper pricing is. Ah

29:13

buzzy a couple years ago I gave birth

29:15

to do the people here have on idea

29:17

about rodeo doctor is about god mount a

29:19

rodeo used in six as is no puzzling.

29:22

Konate was as if you the truth when

29:24

and us to describe performs people's performing surgery

29:26

performing life saving surgery out there in mud

29:28

and the tongue with sixty thousand people what

29:30

and was unbelievable are done if they followed

29:33

up with oh thing they did. but

29:35

i'll give you a spinoff of

29:37

rodeo doctor a nice is quite

29:39

simple muscles time life in recovery

29:41

wallace both men and women have

29:43

suffered injuries over the years just

29:45

get them is that personal time

29:47

and i haven't that recovery massages

29:49

for weeks off the a success

29:51

in order to facilitate was busy

29:53

what that means airline sites us

29:55

is a half of not gonna

29:57

let that happen unless op You

30:00

can hear it now, it's home stretch. The arms

30:02

are down. There we go. Massage.

30:05

Listen, I'm committing massage time and I'm committing

30:07

rodeo, Doctor. Thank you. Very nice.

30:10

Ricky, good luck. Yeah, thank you, Jack. So

30:13

we all remember that infamous moment with David

30:16

Beckham and Alex Ferguson and the boot in

30:18

the eye in the dressing

30:20

room. So I've gone for Beckham's boot

30:23

room, a podcast based around sports people

30:25

and their trusted or not so trusted

30:27

boots, the stories behind their triumphs, the

30:29

highs and loads in relation to the boots they were wearing at

30:32

the time. Earth hair or boots?

30:34

Don't deal. Lucky as

30:36

pear. Trophy winning pear. Unlucky pear.

30:38

Listen, endless. Forget the concepts. If

30:41

Beckham's in, I think we've got a commission. And

30:43

it does not matter what he

30:45

is doing. Talk

30:48

about whatever you like. Game's talking about the luge.

30:51

That's fine. So,

30:53

well, it's hard, actually, because in

30:56

a way, I love Alex's. So

31:02

I want to give it a five points. But

31:05

they're massage time. No, I've got to give

31:07

it to Alex. Yeah. I've got to

31:10

give it to Alex. How to,

31:12

what was that title? How to successfully

31:14

cheat in sport. How to successfully cheat in sport.

31:16

You immediately, it's a great title. You get it.

31:19

You've got some great bookings in there as

31:21

well. Large arm stroke, Ben Johnson. Come on.

31:24

I think Ben Johnson's genuinely pleased to

31:26

get the call. He

31:30

can't be getting a lot of work. Now,

31:36

it is no secret that almost everything you

31:38

have to know if I've lived over the

31:40

festive period is pre-recorded. Weeks, name

31:43

months in advance, including the football

31:45

commentaries, interestingly. We are no

31:47

different. It's still just about

31:49

November. What will have

31:51

happened between now and

31:54

the 30th of December, which is

31:56

now? Danny. Yeah,

31:58

now and now. Liverpool top of

32:01

the league at Christmas. I

32:03

very believe everyone's no

32:05

one's really talking about Liverpool at the

32:07

minute which I quite like. Liverpool play

32:10

Fulham, Sheffield United, Crystal Palace. We're

32:12

going to go back to Man United 12.14.12 and I

32:14

think Liverpool top of the league. You

32:17

think we're from Leeds?

32:19

I am from Leeds. This is true. I'm from Tottenham

32:21

and I'm from Liverpool. So

32:23

that's not a problem. From South London I'm Liverpool. There

32:25

you go. I

32:28

chose wisely earlier. We're racing you back to

32:30

London. Yeah, well that's all done. But I don't mind it.

32:34

But Liverpool top of the league at Christmas. You heard it

32:36

here first. Yeah, you can just have another point. Of

32:39

course you can. Top of the league at

32:41

Christmas. You heard it here first. Bricking. Everton's

32:43

10 point deduction rescinded

32:47

and they go on an unbeaten run to the end of season with

32:49

Naleef. What? You ruined it. So

32:51

much promise and then... What

32:59

have I got? Bunsley. December 23rd in

33:01

Saudi Arabia. Deonti Wilder wins his fight.

33:03

Anthony Joshua wins his fight. And

33:06

at midnight they sign to fight each other

33:08

in May. And what will be then the

33:10

second richest fight in boxing history? Wilder AJ,

33:13

they win in December, they fight in May.

33:15

Yeah, solid. I mean we really hope it happens.

33:18

What do you reckon? Guaranteed. Yeah, guaranteed? Because

33:20

of the Saudi money. Saudi money

33:22

makes anything. I mean listen, Rick, I'm

33:24

going to offer you a job in

33:27

hospital radio. Not really, Steve. Okay, Rick,

33:29

it's 500 grand a year. I love

33:31

those hospitals. Oh, I do actually. Get

33:33

me on those walls. Get me on

33:35

those walls. That's the one-ly now. I've

33:38

got a big hospital out here. Oh,

33:40

these hospitals do some really eccentric stuff.

33:42

Human rights wise. Don't worry about that.

33:47

Alex. Well, talk about Saudi. Saudi

33:49

Arabia will have bought something else.

33:52

One of the following. The FA

33:54

Cup, Wimbledon, the Grand National, both

33:56

Ant and Dec. Alex.

36:02

I'm going a little bit further down

36:04

the line, I'm going the Olympics and

36:06

the Paralympics because for that couple of

36:08

months every four years we will all

36:10

sit at home and pretend we're experts

36:12

in sports we know very very little

36:14

about. And

36:17

it's so enjoyable as well. I

36:19

tend not to wait until every

36:21

four years. Between

36:23

the two of us, conversationally around

36:25

the table. It's

36:28

not the record anyway. Pardon me.

36:31

It's going to be 7am, third year

36:33

running, the first of January 2024. I'm

36:37

going to jump on a bike which

36:40

you're obviously dubious about. I'm going to

36:42

cycle to the beach and I'm going

36:44

to go to Manama Pier in Bahrain

36:46

for the annual Pearl Diving Championship. It's

36:48

one of the Middle East... You competing

36:50

or? I can't live

36:52

with these guys. These guys can go underwater

36:55

for 8 or 9 minutes. I'm up to

36:57

about 2.5. I can go down to 5m

36:59

and find a good pearl. These guys can

37:01

go down to 42m and they come up

37:03

with absolute monsters like golf balls. Pearl

37:05

diving in Bahrain on the first of January.

37:07

You want to be there? I'll see you

37:09

there. I

37:12

think probably quite the show so far as I can get

37:14

a decent pearl. Danny,

37:16

there's no point. I want to go Pearl

37:18

Diving. Mine's

37:21

awful. No, mine is the Olympics but it's

37:23

the Rugby Sevens because the best player on

37:25

the planet, Antoine de Pont, the French captain,

37:27

has decided to sack off playing for France

37:29

this year in the Six Nations which gives

37:31

us all a chance to go and try

37:33

and win a gold medal at home Olympics.

37:36

And if he does, he'll probably be the

37:38

most decorated player of all time, I think.

37:40

Also, the Sevens is really fun to watch.

37:43

Amazing, amazing sport and it's a part of the Olympics where we

37:45

all sit down as Alex said. We're going

37:47

to love it. Very

37:49

nice. That has tightened the scores

37:51

up quite a lot actually. As

37:54

we have four of, I'm

37:57

going to say it, BBC Sports Most eminent Podcasters

37:59

here. I should ask what

38:01

you listen to your favorite known

38:03

sport podcast place panel so doesn't

38:05

have to be baby say said

38:07

to have a spare a humorous

38:10

sauce podcast the is completely fine

38:12

and will secure your love points

38:14

and Dennis like a man's gotta

38:16

have a a backstory to it

38:18

is Geico Jamie languages the private

38:20

parts, modernists and out. The I

38:22

was involved a little bit of

38:24

trolling online and switzer back in

38:27

the day. Jamie line wrote some

38:29

fairly unsavory comments. About me. And

38:32

get arena is embarrassing I remember I remember

38:34

him saggy me in it and think in

38:36

Aus see this bloke is some point in

38:38

and around the southwest London and a man

38:40

a man an and that night did happens

38:42

It happens to happen at the end of

38:44

an old A Quinn social where we would

38:46

we'd had a without a good time with

38:48

we had some some I could see friends

38:50

made him on yes he bailouts since I

38:52

saw a Milan look at i've ones of

38:54

Bridge of A said was now's the time

38:57

he suffered. So

38:59

I kind. of where does this go in

39:01

my i like this by confronted him and

39:03

said i'd i'd lie always said to myself

39:05

would you say to my size as i

39:07

got the opportunity to see the specific does

39:09

is fighting so yes i also i offered

39:11

in the chance to say he he he's

39:14

over a polite all very politely done yet

39:16

with with three body guards behind the heat

39:18

of he didn't say it to my face

39:20

and and and gaveled and apologized to sound

39:22

has been hung upside down boy but. We

39:27

thought about your sandals is that it? As I say

39:29

so I sense. That I went to process we

39:31

became friends that he's at sebring about the a

39:33

site that on his both our focus is on

39:35

our i saw by by says biden to be

39:38

ready to processes are saw i wanted different ends

39:40

a minute. I

39:42

can't say the bombing of the forecast. This

39:44

is surprising because and under intense give up

39:47

it's been sick. A believer? School dystopia. Warning

39:49

this by a woman called Super Tanks Gates

39:51

not for everybody and it comes X rated

39:53

but I think she's quite brilliant. Will leave

39:56

it there. Will. ignite we all

39:58

a bit of a chance Yeah, nothing

40:00

more to add. I will give you a point because you

40:02

sort of looked at me quite threatening. Ricky! I've

40:06

got a really big appetite for astrophysics.

40:08

I don't really talk about this much,

40:10

but I love cosmology and

40:12

I follow a podcast called StarTalk

40:15

with Neil deGrasse Tyson. Ah!

40:17

And he's on there with a friend

40:19

of his and co-contributor called Chuck Nice,

40:22

he's a comedian. So it's a really

40:24

nice mix of just like science and

40:27

information and knowledge, but then laughter

40:29

as well. It's really good. So you've

40:31

gone for a sort of humorous science podcast.

40:33

Correct. And not mine.

40:35

Very Rick. Thank you. I've

40:39

got a couple written down. I've

40:41

got Eureka hosted by the brilliant Rick

40:43

Edwards and then in brackets it says he's

40:45

the host of Fighting Talk, I think. Because

40:47

I didn't write that answer. But

40:50

I've written down Help I Sexed My

40:52

Boss with Jordan North and William Hansen.

40:54

Oh, with the cracker. Absolute cracker. And

40:57

now I feel like I'm really polite and I've

40:59

got loads of etiquette because of the etiquette expert.

41:01

But then I can really relate to Jordan North

41:03

because he's from Burnley as well. So just a

41:05

great pod. Have you seen the

41:07

video that's going around at the moment of

41:10

William describing how he thinks the

41:12

Queen would eat a banana? I

41:14

know! And he's sort of

41:16

got a knife and fork and he's speeding it

41:18

up. And it's really funny,

41:20

but even better than that are the reactions

41:22

of people responding to her. Now, this is

41:24

how I think she's eating a banana. And

41:26

people are like, this is one.

41:28

I've never seen the technique. So holding

41:30

the banana at each end, smashing

41:33

onto the forehead to split it perfectly

41:35

in two. And then, yeah,

41:37

I mean, and then and then a sort

41:39

of slightly gross sort of finger into the

41:41

barrel of the piece. And

41:44

then splits it out. No, I

41:46

think she does do that. I

41:50

ain't having that. Yeah, actually, we're

41:52

all having a laugh, but she's not having

41:54

that. I think it's really weird the

41:56

Queen wiped her own bum after she bit the toilet. Well,

41:59

she's not anymore. Yeah, the new Queen.

42:01

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I assume we're talking about

42:03

the old Queen But yeah, she's

42:05

got her own car. He encoots. That's genuine. Yeah,

42:07

she's got her own toilet You could win you

42:09

do the coots bank tour. You can see the

42:12

Queen's toilet in there. Yeah. Yeah What

42:14

are you doing in the coots bank? Are you casing it?

42:22

Doing some tourists once Do

42:26

you recommend it Now

42:36

we I think it is

42:38

fair to say love listening listen to podcasts

42:40

for the for the camaraderie and

42:43

For you know, all of you seem to

42:45

get on with your your co-hosts swimmingly But

42:48

we also know that podcast life is

42:50

not real life So what

42:53

is the thing about your podcast

42:55

partners that really annoys you Alex?

42:57

Okay cross well, she's good at everything

42:59

especially moaning hate it on the way down

43:02

here I was thinking there must be something

43:04

that really annoys me about her and

43:06

she always corrects my grammar and my speech

43:09

And she knows I'm dyslexic So

43:11

she's like picking on me Yeah,

43:17

very open and honest about it And

43:19

so yeah, she she corrects my spelling mistakes daily.

43:22

Yeah, but not in a kind way. No, no, we don't

43:24

like that. No, Ricky So

43:28

what was the question again? Sorry Basically

43:40

trying to pin down to Premier

43:42

League footballers to do a podcast week

43:44

to week is like trying to herd

43:46

cats I don't even write it

43:48

in my diary because there's never a fixed date as when

43:51

it's gonna happen or a fixed time It

43:53

changes hour to hour minutes and minutes

43:55

sometimes sometimes the names show up So

43:57

yeah, that's that flake flaky very flaky

43:59

Hard to pin down. Do you want to

44:01

know what the question was? No, we're leaving.

44:04

We're leaving. Don't worry. Danny. Mind the bloke

44:06

you wanted to book ended up with me,

44:08

Chris Jones, constantly saying anyone over the age

44:10

of 30 should retire from International Rugby. He

44:12

writes you all off. He's tried to retire

44:14

me so many times. He's right though, isn't

44:16

he? And he talks up every single other

44:18

scum half, the guy who plays in my

44:20

position, to try and play for England. Deep

44:22

down, he was a scum half when he

44:24

grew up. It's just underlying jealousy from the

44:26

badger. How

44:28

long are you going to carry on for, though? Depends

44:31

if the coach will still pick. Have you had the

44:33

conversation? You've had the conversation. I've had a few conversations.

44:35

See, I've always been in my six and a half,

44:37

ten, listen. It probably is time now. Probably time, haven't

44:39

it? No, I'm sticking around. I'm four of a hundred,

44:41

so I'm sticking around. Just in case. So

44:44

if you could squeeze out the four, that would be nice.

44:46

That would be nice. Did you get a special cap, then?

44:48

I think you do, yeah. You do get a special gold

44:50

one. Special gold. Got to wait for that, Danny. Yeah. Got

44:52

to wait for that, Danny. Hang in there for the gold

44:55

cap. He's not got anywhere. Clinging on. Clinging on. Fun

44:57

to see. I'd love to be part of this conversation, but

44:59

I'm a one-man band. And that's not

45:02

good. That's because people really struggle to

45:04

work with me. Yeah. It's actually

45:06

true. I get different people trying to work with me, and they

45:08

get introduced to me, and I try and tell them I'm a

45:10

good fellow and I'm a good diss, and the next week is

45:12

someone else, and I tell them I'm a good fellow, and they

45:14

just keep going away. Then I get one come back, and they

45:16

want to do it on Zoom, or they want to do it

45:19

some other way, and I'm struggling to find anybody who wants to

45:21

work with me. So any of this more be able to love

45:23

me, it's

45:26

a good feat, innit? I'm over there. It's really

45:28

tough being a one-man band. You know

45:30

what? I couldn't give a monkey. I

45:33

love being so... You're a man! This

45:37

witness, me and Paddy the producer, we're just two

45:39

people we take on, we charge the world. We

45:42

land in Saudi, we get stuck in a room, we

45:44

come out of the room before you know where we

45:46

are, we're sitting with His Excellency talking about fights in

45:48

Saudi. We go to Las Vegas, suddenly we're with Floyd

45:50

Mabryver in his diner. We go to anywhere

45:52

we go, we get what we want. I don't want to have a

45:54

people there. I don't want to be carrying people. You can hear... I

45:58

want to look at the Queen's cards on my own. That

46:00

was the message from these three, you know what it was? I'm

46:02

carrying the old one. That

46:05

Christian's I'm carrying here, but don't worry, it's

46:07

close to a phobolus, good Lord. That

46:10

was the message! Yeah, anyone

46:12

who's listening to the podcast knows. Exactly.

46:16

OK, any other business, but not

46:18

any other business, it is your

46:20

message to the nation for

46:23

the New Year. So we're looking ahead, or we're looking

46:25

back, however you want to take that. Danny.

46:29

Mine is a plea for the sport

46:31

that has given me so much.

46:33

Rugby needs help. It's struggling generally

46:35

financially, from grassroots to professional. We

46:37

need help. So my heartfelt plea to these

46:40

millionaires who keep buying football clubs, I

46:42

want to pitch rugby to them. And I'm going

46:45

to pitch rugby this way. Firstly, pre-season tour. You

46:47

go and do all sorts, have the time of

46:49

your life, and get away with it because it's

46:51

rugby banter. It's fine. You can do whatever you

46:53

want. Don't like me? We're way better lads than

46:55

footballers. There's no egos. We won't try

46:57

and steal your wives. And

47:00

there's no VAR. So

47:03

come and invest in rugby, please.

47:06

I think the sound is a ring,

47:08

apart from that stuff about the pre-season

47:10

tour. Not

47:12

so sure that's for us. Alex.

47:16

Mine's a little bit off-piste, I

47:18

think. Just a reminder that

47:21

a math problem is just like constipation.

47:23

Both can be worked out with a pencil. What

47:26

I mean by that is in the

47:29

next year, in the next year, let's

47:31

not take everything so seriously. Let's

47:33

just have a bit of fun. Yeah.

47:35

Yeah. I'll have that. I don't mind

47:37

that. It's all right. I've said

47:40

it before I say it again. I like fun. Ricky,

47:42

do you want a reminder of what the question is? Yes, please. Your

47:46

new year message to the nation. All right, so

47:48

I genuinely believe that 2024 is

47:50

the year that we see the England's men's football team

47:53

win a major trophy for the first time since 1966.

47:57

50 odd years of football, whatever it is. So I just want

47:59

to say a few words. that a great

48:01

man once said that helped our great nation get geared

48:03

up for a major tournament. You've got

48:05

to hold and give, but do it at the right time.

48:08

You can be slow or fast, but you

48:10

must get to that line. They'll always hit

48:12

you and hurt you, defend and attack, but

48:14

there's only one way to beat them, get

48:16

round the back. Absolutely

48:19

superb. Fun to see.

48:21

But straight down the lanes, it's really simple. You get

48:24

a hat, get some gloves, get a

48:26

coat, get your kids and get out and watch

48:28

some sport. You've got 24 hours in the freezing cold.

48:31

You never know, you might have the next

48:33

football king there, you might have the next

48:35

footballing queen at cricket. Get them out now.

48:37

I know you're not going to watch any

48:39

cricket, but get them out now. In the

48:41

next 24 hours, watch some cricket,

48:44

and if you're anywhere near where Danny cares,

48:46

man, give him a bit of love. Yeah.

48:49

Give him plenty of love. Most

48:53

people at the pearl dive have been like, why

48:55

is Buncee wearing a woolly hat and gloves? That

48:57

is not appropriate. He

49:01

must be sweaty. All right,

49:03

final scores then. Ricky,

49:05

do you always come last? I think he always comes

49:07

last. Yeah, yeah, I'll pop him once. Alex,

49:11

a respectable 41. Danny

49:13

on debut, 42. Oh,

49:15

thank you. But it

49:17

happened. Buncee, obviously, won 46. But

49:22

that means Danny and Buncee

49:24

go into the head-to-head, defend

49:27

the indefensible. That stands...

49:29

Well, I've just told you what it

49:31

stands for, I don't think you can just tell what

49:33

it is. It's a ridiculous statement, you have to answer

49:35

that. However much it hurts. If I say I, I

49:37

mean you... Danny,

49:40

so you get the idea, Buncee will

49:42

go first. OK. So,

49:45

Buncee, you have 20 seconds

49:49

on this. I

49:51

was going to give up covering

49:53

boxing until Jake Paul and KSI

49:56

revitalised the sport. It

49:58

was a fantastic winter. in Los Angeles

50:00

getting to know Jake Paul and Logan Paul and going

50:03

back to their family house I mean 74 bedrooms so

50:05

I knew they were struggling there's a unit but when

50:07

they box they bring out something special in here they

50:09

bring out the animal in here that's if the animal

50:11

is a furry little dog that French women carry around

50:14

they are absolutely disgraceful and that's why

50:16

I particularly love them and what they've

50:18

done to transform boxing also

50:22

the pain in Bunch's eyes he

50:24

was saying that was a real

50:26

treat. Danny you've got 20

50:28

seconds on to be honest I'm

50:31

a far better podcaster than I

50:33

am Scrum Half. Yeah

50:36

I am a far better podcaster than I am

50:38

Scrum Half I've been bragging it for 18 years

50:41

now probably stroke but I don't have a clue

50:43

what's going on there but there's too many rules

50:45

no idea what's going on referees don't have a

50:48

scooby what's happening I'm still out there a little

50:50

guy trying to play this stupid game I'd

50:53

way prefer just sitting in a studio drinking

50:55

cups of tea and recording podcasts you

50:58

know what's good it was

51:00

good and

51:03

I've seen him play so I believe

51:05

it I've heard the podcast it's hard

51:07

you know what out of nowhere I'm

51:11

gonna give it Danny can I?

51:13

Danny! Danny! Danny! Danny! Danny! Ricky

51:17

dreams of that sort of

51:20

thing. Huge congratulations to Alex

51:22

Kerr. Commiserations to Thank you

51:24

Steve. Commiserations to Ricky and

51:27

Alex. I expect your podcast

51:29

we're gonna plumb it down the charts now.

51:31

Happy new year everyone we'll be back in

51:33

2024 with some more of the

51:35

same old nonsense. Next up everything you need

51:38

to get you through your sporting day. Five-five.

51:42

Finally talking the world's introduction for BBC

51:44

Radio Five Life. You

51:49

Listen to the podcast extra. We've only got

51:51

Bunce for a few minutes because Bunce is

51:53

a busy man. We're gonna just quickly talk

51:55

New Year's resolutions for sports stars because we

51:57

would normally have done that. Anyone can. Any.

52:01

Sports Stars? Yeah oh who are going

52:03

about sports stores but for me is

52:06

to just be more lot Bugsy when

52:08

you come on. Oh

52:11

that. It's been a pleasure to watch us.

52:13

my friend. absolute pleasure. Ah what's the legends

52:15

are Now I know he's got something. Been

52:18

sick to stay. more yourself, be more myself.

52:20

I let's not say what them I'm actually

52:22

rushing for me. see a guy was of

52:24

box enough who had a really bad strokes

52:27

about a month ago and I just hope

52:29

the in twenty. Twenty Four can do more

52:31

good things because on a new in a sequel

52:33

or don't often do good things I wish I'd

52:35

like to do so. does not puzzling someone as

52:37

it via some a mocha things are reconciled with

52:39

the Loves House on the We're. Sorry

52:43

any news resolutions I. Don't. Really believe

52:45

in them down as as thing on

52:47

and pray that I found an. Ied

52:51

with a I got yeah, Have any

52:53

sure. Rare occasions rotating myself of. Especially.

52:57

If you know random acts of kindness. Nice!

52:59

yes I francisco to be nicer Sonic agree

53:02

ricky be more not don't see any better

53:04

such that presents and greatest allies in a

53:06

lot of for me it is pretty were

53:08

Also be that yes yes I decided an

53:10

eye out on i got mine is mine

53:12

is. To. Stop going away with Rubio

53:15

time and be there for my kids Mom

53:17

salmond spend some time some but also to

53:19

get by is also has a jab and

53:22

as I am afraid I just i

53:24

forget I thought I thought about what goes

53:26

on. And just

53:28

that frightened break briefly just because it's something that

53:30

sounds of both of us are what it's about

53:33

the time the arrested for you and I to

53:35

on the street place which mutual my. My

53:38

eyes of the Us citizens watched every Africa

53:40

as you gotta love for the first one.

53:43

Yeah, not. Yet the ago small blood or is

53:45

when when I was doing. It

53:49

as a ready supply now. But

53:51

I set. Out

53:54

of. us

53:56

over the bridge the as that does that siblings

53:58

that the same guys that new He's got

54:00

the sweet company. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah,

54:02

yeah. He's the sweetest guy in the world. He's

54:04

the loveliest man in the world. He's the most

54:21

arrested both times. Arrested. Spent the night in the

54:24

nick both times. Wow, wow, wow. And

54:26

me, Danny. How is that, isn't it? It's

54:28

a dangerous game of games. Yeah, it's a dangerous game, yeah,

54:30

with the small blood, you know, I should have had

54:32

a medical note with me, that's what. Yeah,

54:35

the police always look kindly on that. Imagine

54:38

if the new owners came in at the club and

54:40

they said they look through and they saw that and you

54:42

got those two police arrests and you didn't get your gold

54:44

cat because you have to have two quick whizzes. So it

54:46

would be outrageous, wouldn't it? Yeah, that's 10 years, and it

54:48

all get to work, I think. I hope so. I

54:51

don't know. I got done in New York. Did

54:53

you? Yeah, and I had

54:55

no idea really, like what

54:58

was going on. I was quite drunk and

55:00

the police car pulled up behind

55:02

me and obviously I did the thing where you immediately

55:04

sort of shuffle about three steps over and they're like,

55:06

what are you doing? I was like, nothing actually, just

55:08

looking at the wall, lovely wall, lovely wall. And

55:11

it was just sort of trickling down

55:13

towards the place. And they

55:16

just sort of, they said something and they gave me

55:18

a slip of paper and

55:21

I was just like, lovely, popped it in my pocket, didn't

55:23

really think about it. Had a look at the slip of

55:25

paper on the flight home. I

55:28

was like, there seems to be saying, I've got to

55:30

go back for a court appearance.

55:32

So I was like, I'm definitely reading this wrong. So

55:34

I sent it to my agent, my agent sent it

55:36

to a lawyer. The lawyer said, yeah, no, you are

55:38

now. No. I had

55:40

to fly back to New York for a

55:42

court appearance, stay in a hotel, go to

55:45

court in a suit and

55:49

it's because the lawyer, I don't have to get an

55:51

American lawyer. They're like, we need to wear a suit

55:53

because you need to show your respectful. I turn up,

55:56

no one else in there is wearing a suit. I look like that.

55:58

It is one of the hottest days of the year. I'm

56:00

sweating so I look guilty. I

56:02

sit next to a guy who's handcuffed

56:04

to a police officer called Marvellous Rodriguez

56:07

and I'm looking at me

56:10

and I'm thinking, I know

56:13

I've done something wrong but I suspect I

56:15

haven't done something wrong on the level that

56:17

Marvellous has. In

56:19

the end, do you know what I got? $25 fine. No!

56:23

Oh my word. $25 fine. Yeah.

56:26

What a marvellous gift. We don't

56:28

know what I imagined. I imagine you also got $25

56:30

but not a dollar. I know. Yeah.

56:35

Yeah. $25 absolutely killed me. Absolutely

56:38

killed me. Sometimes it's good to be

56:40

a woman you can't really piss in the street. Yeah.

56:43

True. Good. Get

56:46

that on a t-shirt. Thanks very much everyone. All

56:49

go off and be nice. Happy

56:51

New Year. Happy New Year. Happy

56:54

New Year indeed. I'm

56:56

Mark Chapman and this is Everton.

56:59

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57:04

is the story of what happened over

57:06

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57:08

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57:11

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57:13

existed five years ago. We've

57:15

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57:17

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57:19

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