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Right then. Who's on their best behaviour today? Be

1:02

warned.

1:02

I'm quite keen this morning to

1:04

assert my authority and dock someone 10

1:07

points for breaking financial fair play rules. First

1:10

up,

1:10

her 11th appearance. She's the only member

1:13

of the panel to have experienced me hosting before. It

1:15

didn't go well. On September the 16th she

1:17

finished, it's true, she finished on 21 points,

1:19

less than half her previous average total.

1:22

What that tells you is that Colin liked her

1:24

and I am undecided. Presenter,

1:27

writer, Spurs fan, fresh from her gig at the

1:29

cycling, Kate Mason's here. Hello, Rick.

1:30

Just threw off your jumper very

1:32

dramatically there like you're ready to fight. I'm ready. I

1:36

am feeling pretty hyped because there's festive

1:38

coffee cups out so that's going to lift me to

1:40

previously unseat pipes. You're

1:42

not one of these pumpkin spice latte

1:44

crunches, are you? No, no, no. You keep it

1:46

straight down the line, I'll take a white coffee quick. Yes, exactly.

1:49

But I just want it in a festive cup. Well, you're lucky you've got it.

1:51

I've also been gending up on every cyclist

1:54

that has ever ridden a bike so I'm ready for all of your

1:56

answers, Kate. On for an incredible

1:59

show.

1:59

181. He picked

2:02

up his record of appearing in every very quiet

2:04

woo there from K. Appearing in every season

2:06

of the program that the first of his 58 wins

2:10

is now more than two decades ago but

2:12

look at him still cut like a freaking

2:14

steak it's Greg Brady. It's

2:20

a big build up to a man who wasn't gonna answer. Yeah

2:24

with a long day well it's my sixth early

2:26

morning in a row as well Rick I'm

2:28

on breakfast here in Toronto Canada

2:30

so so be gentle hold

2:32

me at different times on me

2:34

do any do anything for the next hour

2:36

just get me through it. If it's okay Greg

2:39

I think I'm gonna spoon you throughout the entire show

2:41

but of course metaphorically on

2:43

for the 59th time he's defended

2:46

the indefensible 50 times and absurd 86.21 percent

2:50

rate of reach in the final ready

2:53

holds a bit more excited woo from Kate she's building

2:55

into it already holds the record for wins under

2:57

the most different hosts 10 and he'd be looking

2:59

to extend that at the first opportunity comic

3:02

actor comic actor vegan

3:04

cut like a freaking chunk of tofu Justin

3:07

Morehouse. Good morning good morning

3:10

I'm so glad to join you here

3:12

in London when

3:15

we both are in Manchester Monday to Friday

3:17

we could have just let it air come with. Yes we could and

3:19

we will in the future don't you worry about that now

3:21

I know that you had a gig in Northampton last

3:23

night and you stayed in Milton Keynes so this

3:25

is a real come down planner wise for you.

3:28

Thanks for being here thanks for slumming it. Finally

3:31

the fourth debutante of season 21 and the 10th

3:34

Fighting Talk panelist with a hyphenated surname BBC

3:37

Young Sports Personality of the

3:40

Year 2005 multiple record

3:42

holder and very very fast sprinter and

3:44

nitro in the new gladiators welcome

3:46

to Fighting Talk Harry Aikens a reading.

3:50

Thanks for having me I've

3:52

a slightly costly voice because I've been talking

3:54

a lot this week but I feel like this could

3:56

be like a new character in the making. Yeah also

3:59

I think that talking is good practice for this show

4:01

so yeah that's perfect. Are you gonna

4:03

have to bulk up a bit before gladiating? I'm

4:07

going to have to bulk up. I think this is the

4:09

first time where someone actually positively told

4:11

me to bulk up. My whole sprinting

4:14

career has been you're too big you're too big but it's

4:16

nice to be in a space where people appreciate

4:18

my pecs. You have

4:21

always been in a place with me where

4:23

your pecs are appreciated. Thank you very much.

4:26

Let's get into it then. We will

4:28

start with this. Alexander

4:29

Arnold plays it round the one

4:32

side of the Tustin some and then rolls

4:34

it into the path of water. Water up towards the

4:36

edge of the box, holds up the sacker, sucker across,

4:39

keeps in the middle and that's two-nil.

4:42

And finally there's some fluency for England

4:44

here tonight.

4:45

International weekend everyone. John Murray doing his

4:47

best to sound like it was exciting. Not

4:50

many domestic games to choose from and many

4:52

of the internationals like the England game last night. Meaningless.

4:55

So where can I get my football fix this weekend?

4:59

Kate.

4:59

Any game against Malta is not meaningless come on.

5:02

I am going with club football it is there's a

5:04

women's Super League game today 1.30 p.m. Chelsea taking

5:08

on

5:08

Liverpool women. They're playing at the Stanford Bridge.

5:12

Chance to see the loss. Well the

5:14

victory parade perhaps of Emma Hayes

5:16

who recently became...

5:17

A bit early for that I think. Well

5:18

we'll see. We'll see the

5:21

best paid female

5:22

football coach in the world. 1.6 million. I

5:25

read. I read 1.3. You

5:27

give her an extra 300 grand. She's worth it.

5:30

I would. I absolutely would. Justin.

5:34

I should go with you and say there's

5:37

a massive game at Ultra Apple today. It's

5:39

the Manchester Derby, Manchester City vs Manchester United.

5:41

Over 40,000 tickets sold. It's gonna

5:43

be huge but you know what I'm

5:45

having a weekend off. I am

5:48

sick of football. The last

5:50

thing that any of my pals ever go oh

5:52

great it's the International Weekend. We

5:55

normally hate them but I'm loving this one

5:57

because a I don't have to miss a game for work

5:59

that's what I do. every week, just give my ticket to

6:01

somebody else, there's another 40 quid gone. B,

6:03

I don't have to spend three or four days dreading

6:06

United's result. That's all my life

6:08

is now, just these angst and pain. And

6:11

C, I've done something incredibly bad.

6:14

For the first time in my life, I've done a fantasy

6:16

Premier League team. Wow. And

6:19

I am so bad at it, I'm so bad

6:21

at it, I'm getting mocked by 11-year-olds

6:23

on a weekly basis. But

6:26

11-year-olds are quite... And what about for the fancy league? Harry. To

6:29

be fair, I'm... You

6:35

are Husky. I'm Husky mate. Point

6:37

for that mate. It's Husky, you will

6:39

go on my first whistle. I love that. I've

6:42

been itching to cough, so I'm sad with that.

6:44

I'm going to pull up some socks for myself and

6:47

jump in a Sunday League football team. I'm

6:50

basically like a free agent on the weekends,

6:52

I quite like playing when I can, so

6:54

this is a good op. I'd love

6:56

to see it. Yeah mate. Have

6:58

you seen that Kim Fenwell play? Yes. Yeah.

7:01

That's sort of that, 45. Are you up top? I am

7:03

up top. Everything's up top. Have you

7:05

seen his legs? Yeah. Everything's down

7:08

the bottom as well. My only issue is, obviously,

7:11

I like grassroots football, I like grassroots in

7:13

most sports, it's all about promoting the pathway. But

7:17

British football, up top, when you're

7:19

a striker, defenders love to hoof it. I'm mathematic.

7:22

I struggle. What? I

7:24

struggle. I

7:26

struggle. You're a conundrum, you are. They

7:29

hoof the ball, they go, alright, oh they're

7:31

going, here we go again. You

7:35

say, I'll run once for you, I'll run once for you, about 10

7:37

seconds and that's me done. Interval,

7:40

intervals please. Greg. I

7:42

think that was Shevchenko's excuse at Chelsea,

7:44

he was asthmatic, so he didn't come back across the

7:47

halfway line very often in that

7:49

Mourinho second go round. Well I

7:51

love the Euros, I do. I know we're going to

7:53

be talking about it later and I'm desperate

7:56

to get to Germany and I want to see the Welsh there,

7:58

so Wales are media later.

9:34

I

10:00

watched a news conference last night where someone said, Ian, you

10:02

had a bit of a fallout with Bruce Riek, and

10:04

he said it was a tremendous fallout, and that's

10:06

when we knew Ian could go on TV radio

10:08

and be a broadcast star. So there's always

10:10

that person before the person, the person

10:13

before Sir Alex, but that obviously

10:15

was a well-known person, and Bruce Riek,

10:17

a little more anonymous in that

10:20

arsenal cannon. And

10:22

let's think of these players. He had David Seaman who

10:24

was 31, he had Martin Keown, he

10:27

had Ian Wright, he had Tony Adams, and

10:29

they still finished sixth in the league, so maybe he needed

10:31

to go. Mm, it's also like, who did

10:33

fighting talk before me? Nobody can remember. Kate.

10:36

Well, this is a political concept, guys,

10:39

as I'm sure you all know, the forgotten man,

10:41

or the forgotten person. It's a political concept in the

10:43

United States centered around those whose interests

10:46

have been neglected. So

10:48

my forgotten person is the

10:51

football fan. All of

10:53

us are the forgotten man. For us.

10:55

The ticket prices as they are, with fixtures

10:58

being constantly moved so you can't get to

11:00

them, and you have to reorganize everything. Think

11:03

about the Christmas Eve fixture between Chelsea

11:05

and Wolverhampton.

11:06

I rarely think about anything else. I'm

11:09

sorry. You're

11:11

trying to alienate a new crowd today, are you, Rick?

11:15

Every week. Yeah,

11:17

it's all of us, it's a football fan. Fair enough. Justin.

11:21

Lily Parr. Oh, very good. Lily

11:23

Parr was one of the original,

11:26

brilliant female footballers. There's

11:28

a lot of talk about women's football now, quite

11:30

rightly, the WSL's getting its light shine upon it

11:32

this weekend. It's brilliant, it's fantastic. But

11:35

we've got to remember how we treated women's football

11:38

back in the 1920s. These teams, there were

11:40

teams, so she played for a team, this is a brilliant name of a team,

11:42

Vic Kerr's Ladies. That's

11:45

what they were called. Vic Kerr's Ladies. Say that quickly,

11:47

please. Vic Kerr's. Vic Kerr's

11:49

Munitions Factory in Preston. She

11:52

was a play, she was six foot. She

11:54

had a kick like a mule. She's the only person who

11:56

could lift a dead ball, the old heavy

11:58

leather ball from the. left wing to the

12:00

right wing and nearly knocked someone out with a shot.

12:03

She broke a male goalkeeper's

12:05

wrist with a thunderous shot. So

12:07

I want us to remember these women that were banned

12:09

from playing football by the FA. I mean

12:11

who'd have thought the FA would have been short-sighted

12:15

by the administration? But I've really turned

12:17

things around haven't I? Yeah, a big up lily par. Harry?

12:21

I'm going to turn to boxing. Lennox

12:24

Lewis. So me personally

12:27

is someone who is

12:30

amazing. Undisputed champion in his own right

12:33

and at BRITs I just don't feel that we

12:35

claim him enough. We don't talk about

12:37

him in light of you know we've got Anthony Joshua,

12:39

you've got Tyson Fury. British boxing

12:41

is at the forefront at the minute obviously with the YouTubers

12:44

as well but there's a lot of eyes on it and

12:46

we just don't talk about this guy who

12:48

sees the damage that obviously

12:51

most are trying to do. I think people forget how good

12:53

he was. Literally that's what they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

12:55

yeah. And people talk about Frank.

12:59

They talk about Frank Brono a lot but Lennox somehow

13:01

yeah he kind of goes under a radar a bit.

13:04

A little bit Canadian or? I think that's a little bit Canadian. No

13:06

offense Greg. No offense. But that

13:08

is the problem. Very Canadian. We know it

13:10

is. It's why we keep forgetting. You think we're

13:12

like Maradona was Welsh. A little bit out of tune Ian. We

13:19

want 42% at least for Lennox Lewis. You

13:21

can have 58. Do

13:24

you claim Greg Roszewski out of interest? You're

13:28

welcome to. No, we don't. No, you

13:31

don't. No, you don't. We're not comfortable

13:33

with that. Now, I tell you who I haven't forgotten.

13:35

It's Matt who's on the line. Well

13:38

done me. Who do you want to award the three

13:40

bonus points to Matt? Well

13:42

I like Justin's answer but it was

13:44

an open goal and Kate smashed it

13:47

in so Kate gets the

13:49

points. Thank you. You're a legend.

13:51

I think Justin. Pandering gets points

13:54

once again on this. I want Justin to

13:55

win after that one.

13:56

No, I don't. Justin's on strike.

14:00

I'm not used to patronising it. OK,

14:04

good luck with the old peculiar fixture this weekend. Are

14:06

you still there, Matt? Yeah, he is,

14:08

mate. Thanks a lot. See you later. Thanks,

14:10

mate. Thanks for not giving me the point, you like

14:12

my answer. He's gone.

14:15

Yeah, he's not interested. Question

14:17

number three, movement

14:19

in the long running sale of Manchester United. Mr

14:22

John Ratcliffe poised to own 25% of

14:24

the club as soon as next week. But

14:26

what does Sir John need to do at 9am

14:29

on his very first day in his new Old

14:31

Trafford office? Go on, Justin. All right,

14:34

I'm like a woman who's waiting for her husband to

14:36

retire from the factory. I'm going to list

14:38

as long as me armour jumps for that lad today when he finishes.

14:41

Get yourself in here, Sir Jim, right? Buy

14:43

the rest of the shares, get some decent food in the concourses.

14:46

Do not do keep you if he's on the pitch like my team likes you.

14:49

Decent food in the concourses is a priority for you. Come

14:51

on. Yes! Genuinely,

14:53

you must be the biggest football club in the concourses. The best football club in the country,

14:56

the offering is terrible. Chris

14:59

drinking a pie for a pie. It's rubbish. Let's get

15:01

it better than this. Get some lead

15:03

on the roof. The Theatre of Streams. That's

15:05

supposed to be fun. We can't move it. Keep

15:07

Eric Sennharg in the job because he's a good man. And

15:10

just keep the fans informed. Talk

15:12

to us. Keep us informed. Let us know what

15:14

you're doing. We know it's going to take a while to turn it

15:16

round. We'll never not support the team. But

15:19

don't treat us like idiots. And the final thing

15:21

you need to do, don't come in here being

15:23

all kind of like, all right mate, I'm from

15:25

Falesworth. We know you're a petrochemical,

15:27

but I mean, don't pretend to be

15:29

a scally who's won the lottery. Kate. The

15:34

biggest football club in the country? In the

15:36

world, perhaps. Interesting. I

15:39

mean, I love you. It is arguable. I

15:42

think it is arguable. It's

15:44

hard for me

15:44

to remember that so long ago, to be honest.

15:46

Well,

15:48

anyway, I mean, Manchester United, probably not. The

15:52

possibilities of the club not close to my heart, as a Spurs

15:54

fan. So I've tried to think about

15:56

this in quite a lot of detail. And I think basically

15:59

the main thing you need to do is

16:20

called

18:00

Save Our Squad and he comes back to his

18:03

roots in the UK and he's trying to

18:05

help a team that is sort

18:07

of on the skids and helping his 14, 15-year-olds.

18:10

He clearly wants to be involved. I know he works in

18:12

Miami, but he's got a private jet.

18:15

He'll recycle, he'll

18:18

compost, he'll use paper straws, he'll reduce that

18:20

carbon footprint. Call him back and get him back

18:22

to Old Trafford.

18:23

And it's going really well into Miami.

18:24

Yeah, I might as well bring him

18:26

in. Yeah, anybody that

18:28

we all could have signed messy and made our team better,

18:30

I guess. Right, let's have

18:32

a look at the scores. Pretty tight,

18:35

actually. Greg and Harry on 14.

18:37

I mean, Harry, just so you know, you will

18:39

inevitably on your day be confirmed. Kate

18:44

on 16, Justin just ahead

18:46

on 17. So very much all to play for. I'm

18:49

looking forward to a bit more needle between Justin and Kate.

18:51

It's really growing nicely, isn't

18:53

it? Next up, it's a

18:55

quickie. Monday Night Club on 5

18:58

Live, Luton's England International Andros

19:00

Townsend says,

19:03

well, this. Chicken

19:08

feet. Chicken

19:10

feet. Every night, chicken feet. Chicken

19:13

feet. What about five or six

19:15

chicken feet? It's a

19:17

chicken wing by some fork. Exactly. Chicken

19:21

feet. So this is how

19:24

we created that very serious story

19:26

on 5 Live Breakfast. We did a lovely audio

19:28

mix, which I'll keep on playing in the background. So

19:31

for Andros, it's chicken feet. That's

19:33

Chris Sutton asking the big questions there. What

19:36

are the other culinary quirks of

19:38

sports stars? I

19:41

just want to hear him. No, we didn't hear the end bit. That's

19:44

the lovely Brit where he says. But you want to turn

19:46

your nose up at the foot. Yeah, there we go. You

19:49

want to turn your nose up at the foot? What's wrong with you? Harry,

19:53

big quote to sports stars. Oh my gosh, I need

19:55

to know who produced that beat on that. I

19:58

was dubbed. The Candy Floss

20:00

Kid, because sugar was a big

20:03

part of my daily race schedule.

20:06

But funny enough, I'm a sprint art. We do get

20:08

away with a lot. I've had funny conversations

20:10

with distance funnels, because they're always interesting

20:12

people. And some of them on race

20:15

day, even a few days before, they only have

20:17

a beige diet. We are

20:19

talking white rice, fish,

20:22

only beige food. They're not allowed to

20:25

have tomato sauce, for example, because this

20:27

is a digestion. We are literally

20:30

talking... A grim old life, isn't it? They're going to go out and run for

20:32

half an hour. Before they race, they're going

20:34

to run for two hours, but everything is beige. They're

20:36

running as beige, everything is beige. Yeah,

20:38

no, no, no, no, no, no. Also nice to have an answer,

20:40

which is effectively yourself, as well, Candy Floss Kid.

20:43

Don't get that one. Justin. He's

20:45

got me the Candy Floss Kid as well, I work on the fair. Babe

20:49

Ruth's incredible appetite.

20:52

Two steaks for his dinner and everything else. But his pre-match

20:54

meal was a dozen hot dogs and

20:57

half a gallon of soda. That's pre-match.

20:59

12 hot dogs, please, and half a gallon of cold soda.

21:02

And then I'm good to go. Kate. I

21:05

can't really talk. Well,

21:07

the chicken feet is magnificent. I

21:10

can't believe I'm

21:10

keeping it chicken. The original

21:13

weird chicken guy was Patrice Ever,

21:15

who licked... Was it frozen

21:18

or was it just raw? But if we're

21:20

talking about getting your calories in before

21:24

doing sport, Usain Bolt, the chicken

21:25

nugget diet. Yeah,

21:28

you can't argue with that diet. And you can't argue with that speed

21:30

in fairness. Greg.

21:31

Karan Butler was an NBA

21:34

player, but in college basketball, he

21:36

drank a two-liter bottle of Mountain

21:38

Dew before he came. You

21:41

have Mountain Dew. I know you have seven up in very

22:00

yellow and bright but I think he got weaned

22:02

off it once he got like he got to the pros

22:05

they're like you can't stop doing that but

22:07

I think it was like a cherry coke and you'll be fine

22:09

yeah right yeah he was weaning off to a

22:11

leader one year and then 500 milliliters

22:15

they had to wean him off it like an addict and

22:17

uh and soon enough he was stopped drinking Mountain

22:19

Dew yeah and no one knows what flavor

22:21

Mountain Dew is either what is it Greg? I

22:25

don't know myself again I if I

22:27

could have two liters if I'd kept going on my two

22:29

liter Mountain Dew diet I wouldn't be talking to you right now I

22:31

don't know what it is what is it? Isn't it the freshness

22:33

of the Mountain Dew? But yeah

22:36

but me on yellow yeah

22:39

I'm worried that combined now Mountain Dew with the health

22:41

of an energy drink so there's some kind of Mountain Dew

22:44

extra caffeine thing that would probably knock all of

22:47

us out for an hour. Are your bears peed

22:49

on it? Yeah well lovely yeah I think it's a mystery

22:51

we're probably not going to solve this morning. A social

22:54

media spat between two former

22:57

boxing world champions Pauli Malinaghi

22:59

claimed Joe Kawzagi was overrated.

23:02

Joe replied the question I'm going to ask you for.

23:05

Kawzagi said who is the most overrated

23:07

world champion of all time besides

23:11

Pauli Malinaghi whose name I can't

23:13

say which is quite annoying. So who are we going

23:15

to go for Justin? Lennis Lewis? No

23:17

I'm just kidding. How is he left out of his seat?

23:19

The moment there Charles

23:24

Martin is the he's got

23:27

the shortest reign ever as a heavyweight

23:29

boxing champion. 85 days he was

23:31

a champion he basically won

23:33

because his opponent retired with a knee

23:35

injury that's not that's

23:39

a low blow isn't it the knee injury and

23:41

his friends famous he's the man that gave Joshua his chance

23:44

at title took it even when he was world

23:46

champion he never reached higher than ninth in the world

23:48

rankings. That's a mug off really

23:50

Kate.

23:51

This is a bit this is a difficult one

23:53

isn't it really as we all sit here in our comfy

23:55

chairs being like oh you world champions

23:57

you're so rubbish.

23:59

I feel

24:02

like the charming and extremely handsome

24:04

Jensen Button will cope with the fact that I'm

24:06

nominating him. I think he will manage.

24:08

I'm talking about 2009 where there's

24:10

this thing about the changing of the restrictions

24:12

and his team born managed to...

24:14

Only season.

24:16

Only season, yeah exactly. And won

24:18

the first or six of the first seven races, came

24:20

to third in the other, basically didn't win after everyone else

24:22

caught up,

24:22

still won the driver's championship. Yeah,

24:25

and you cannot take that away from him. You cannot. He

24:27

doesn't like to be called a former world champion, I believe.

24:30

I am a world champion. I am a world

24:32

champion. I think so. Hang on a minute.

24:35

Don't follow the formula. Just get this right. So

24:37

the driver who had the better car than everybody else won that year. Yeah,

24:39

that kind of thing. Unfortunately, that kind of thing. That's

24:41

fine. It's unbelievable. Makes you tell

24:43

me it's all about the car.

24:47

Greg. Well, I'm going to risk the ire,

24:50

Rick, of the new host, the new judging

24:52

committee, and I'm going to go, this

24:55

is not a world champion, but it's a Euro

24:57

champion, but it was the best football

25:00

going on in the summer of 21, and we

25:02

all got stung by it. It's Italy. It's

25:04

Italy beating England. Yeah, come on. They didn't even

25:06

qualify for the next world cup. What a good guy. They're

25:09

not going to qualify for these Euros. It's

25:12

1-0 England after three minutes, and all of a sudden, Garros

25:14

Southegate brings in four players who haven't

25:16

even stretched. They penalty

25:18

kick. It's like that

25:21

happened. It's Italy. It's

25:23

been Italy the last half decade, and we had

25:25

Lorenzo and Signe come here and play professionally in

25:28

Toronto, and he can barely walk. It's a joke. As

25:30

far as

25:31

I'm concerned, Greg, though, on my wall chart that's

25:33

still up, it says that we beat Italy

25:35

at 11-0 in the

25:35

final. Good for you. Oh, there we go. As

25:38

far as I'm concerned, we won that one. You

25:40

wrote the winner in after six minutes of the 120 that were played.

25:45

How many on your wall chart for Tottenham Trovers

25:47

have you bought? Oh, here we go. Yeah.

25:49

I liked your answer about the women footballer.

25:52

But apart from that... You pretend everything else

25:54

hasn't happened. Harry, I'm

25:56

sticking with football. Obviously, Argentina

25:59

won the World Cup. And I'm

26:01

talking about the guys on the subs bench. How

26:03

many minutes have they played? Most notably their

26:05

goalkeeper, the substitute goalkeeper. Really, I can't

26:08

say his first name. D'Aminio, D'Aminio,

26:11

really? Yeah, so basically,

26:13

obviously, he's a world champion. He's classed as a world champion,

26:15

but he hasn't played. You know, I've been a part of

26:17

relay teams where I've, you know, not been able

26:19

to be a part of the strike four. I don't get a medal.

26:22

But obviously, in those circumstances, he walks around

26:24

with a World Cup medal. Do you... I

26:27

mean, could you claim a medal? No, you

26:29

can't. Unless you physically touch the track.

26:31

So if you run in the heats, for example,

26:33

which has happened before, then you're part

26:35

of the squad, then you get a medal, right? But

26:37

if you're a part of the team, part of the squad, you've trained,

26:39

you've qualified, everything in and around it,

26:42

unless you touch the track, you do

26:44

not get a medal. Yeah, which seems fair. Yeah,

26:46

just be a bit faster. Yeah, you've got to

26:49

be a part of the squad and actually hold the battle. Get

26:51

on the inhaler. Mate. I feel

26:53

like you mean... I'm not complaining. If

26:57

you run out onto the track with the flag, you

27:00

should get a medal. Should

27:03

I get it? Yeah. Okay,

27:05

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27:07

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Welcome back

27:57

to fighting talk. Welcome back to our fun old cake jump. Greg

28:00

and Harry on this day in Fighting

28:03

Talk History 18 November 2006. Gabby

28:06

Logensen and his host Mark Bright refused

28:08

to name a former Sheffield Wednesday teammate with three

28:11

nipples. You assume David Hurst?

28:13

You just think it feels like Hurst.

28:16

Storless Greg Brady and Bob Mills faced

28:18

off in the final. The Canadian scoring is

28:20

19th win. The very definition of the good

28:22

old days Greg. But the word

28:25

nipple wasn't used in any other business I can

28:27

promise you that. I wouldn't

28:29

have gone there after that first

28:31

go round with the three ones. It's

28:34

too many nipples. Famously too many. It's literally 50% too many nipples.

28:38

Alright let's get on with it. Game changer time.

28:40

Five points for one of you, none for the

28:42

rest. I'll award the bonus points to

28:44

whoever I feel most sorry for. Because

28:47

Greg Brady and two eminent Fighting

28:49

Talk producers had their holiday plans for next summer

28:52

left in tatters this week. Applying

28:54

for around a hundred tickets for Euro 2024

28:56

between them. Looking forward to a fantastic

28:58

road trip around Germany. The trio ended up

29:00

with none. Unlucky

29:03

but looking on the bright side it has provided Fighting Talk with

29:06

a great question six. As I asked the panel

29:08

what have been your own personal sporting

29:10

ticket fiasco? It's gonna start

29:13

with you Harry. Good job you're

29:15

starting with me because you're gonna feel sorry for me. I

29:18

think at the end of the day we

29:20

get to travel the world go to different places as an

29:22

athlete as a GB sprinter. I've

29:24

been to Olympics and being able to get tickets

29:27

for my friends and family has literally been

29:29

like none. Like trying to get a ticket

29:31

for anyone to come and see you do

29:33

the one thing that you've trained your whole life for

29:36

in that moment it doesn't happen. And most recently Commonwealth

29:41

Games, Birmingham. I had to queue

29:43

up myself when I was racing

29:45

the next day. People in the queue being like is that? I

29:48

think I recognised I started. My

29:50

team kit bag and everything just like waiting

29:53

to get couple tickets just to get some families

29:55

come watch me race. Did you get them? I did

29:57

I did get them but I'll stood up for like two hours.

31:20

they

32:00

print them out twice and then that

32:02

cancels out the first sort of barcode.

32:04

So I remember bringing like four tickets,

32:06

meeting three friends for a major league baseball

32:08

game. I think it was the Yankees and the Blue Jays

32:10

in Toronto and I brought the wrong four. So then you realize

32:12

that about 20 minutes before the game, you got to find

32:15

like a spot open that's like a print shop.

32:17

Like we have Staples and Kinko's. I

32:19

hope I said that also right. But

32:21

whatever. It's like it's so it

32:24

was a terrible two year run before

32:26

they figured out we can send them electronic and

32:28

you can store them on your phone. We went through that those gap

32:30

years. Like when you take a year off from college,

32:33

you had to print them out and they were terrible. Yeah,

32:35

I feel like you and Kate are both given an answer,

32:37

which is effectively summarized by so

32:40

I was an idiot. Stand

32:42

by. What

32:45

didn't you print out or download Justin? Well

32:49

it gets worse than this. Mine is sports

32:51

related is a stretch and I'll tell you why. It's about

32:54

simply red. Mick Houghnall. And let's just

32:56

say he's a Man United fan. My mate once

32:58

interviewed him on the radio and this is a true story. He

33:00

said, why did you get on so well with Sir Alex Ferguson, Mick?

33:03

And he went, well, I think it's because we're both readers

33:06

of men. Anyway,

33:08

back in the day, I was presenting Breakfast

33:10

on Magic, 11.52 a.m. in Manchester. It

33:15

was my first proper radio job. I was getting up early like

33:17

Rick does every day. But I wasn't discussing

33:19

events with world leaders. I was talking to pensioners

33:21

in Bagley and Radcliffe and things

33:23

like that. And we do a bit of that. We

33:25

had a big concert promotion, Simply

33:28

Red. I've never got tickets to give away. And

33:30

they said, Justin, you can work on the mechanic. That's

33:32

what they call it in Ray Dorland, the mechanic. And I said, I've

33:34

got a great idea. What I'm going to do is I'm going

33:36

to do something a little bit different. I'm not just going to do, here's

33:38

the phrase that pays. I'm not going to do, here's the number.

33:41

Every time I mention a Simply Red lyric, you

33:43

call him. So for instance, after

33:46

the news I went, oh, the economic news there, money's

33:48

too tight to mention. Hit the polls now. I

33:52

hit the first one. I hit

33:54

the first one. Right. And

33:57

I played two songs back to back. There

34:00

you go, the Rolling Stones and the Beatles. Both of them,

34:02

stars, they're stars, right?

34:05

The switchboard lit up and somebody went,

34:08

are you Justin? I'm thinking about these tickets. And I said,

34:10

yeah, they went, you know what it was on last night, don't you? And

34:13

you know

34:15

what we did? We still gave

34:17

them away. We gave them away. They're

34:20

getting framed. They're getting framed and signed it. I'm sorry,

34:22

he missed the concert and people won a memento.

34:25

He was more popular than the actual concert itself. I

34:28

mean, I don't know where the points are going.

34:30

I think I'm going to have to go Justin.

34:33

I think you've been a bit unlucky there, Harry. I mean, Kate

34:35

and Greg had no chance. But yeah, I'm going,

34:37

I'm going Justin. Fantastic.

34:42

And I mean, we're currently running a competition on

34:44

breakfast and I know the pain of it. I mean, we've had

34:46

a week of the worst guesses. Okay,

34:51

next question. Justin, quite a long way ahead, by the

34:53

way. So you need to do a bit of work here. Killjoy,

34:56

Mansfield manager, Nigel Clough. There's over

34:58

elaborate goal celebrations. Are a waste

35:00

of energy and ask what's the point. But

35:02

what are the iconic goal celebrations we'd have

35:05

missed if footballers listened to Big Nige. And

35:07

while we're asking, if you scored a World Cup winner, how

35:09

would you celebrate Kate?

35:11

This is very easy.

35:13

And if you don't let me win this round, then there

35:16

should be a review.

35:16

Then what? Come in after

35:19

you. I'm going to borrow your jacket.

35:22

It's Jürgen Klinsman. It's the Jürgen Klinsman

35:24

dive. And that is also what I would

35:26

do if I scored it. In the

35:28

World Cup. Because it's easy.

35:30

And also it proves that you've got a sense of

35:32

humour in the case of Jürgen Klinsman. And

35:34

you want to be careful if it's too dry. That

35:37

might be an issue. Don't do that on some 3G. Some

35:39

old 3G ass-bow. Especially

35:41

with boobs, actually. I'm just thinking of it. Anyway,

35:44

if I could plop myself down. Done.

35:46

Yeah, it's effectively just a sort of falling tree, then.

35:49

In fact, it's a great celebration. Justin.

35:52

Three words, Mick Shannon windmill. The windmill,

35:55

yes. Yeah. Point

35:57

for each word. Hey! And

36:00

if I was to score, and I've had to have scored a goal in

36:02

the charity game, a penalty at Old Trafford, and I did

36:04

everything. Lose your point for Brackett. Let

36:07

me tell you, I still had my glasses on, me watch on,

36:09

I scored a penalty pass, David Besson dropped

36:12

to my knees, kissed the badge, went to all corners

36:14

of the ground, I milked it for all it was worth,

36:16

I'm never going to get that again, so I went for it. Yeah, you get

36:18

the point back, that's good. Harry? I'm

36:20

going to go for Ronaldo's

36:23

suit, purely for the fact that

36:25

it's all about mass participation. I've

36:27

scored that winner, I want everyone else to

36:29

enjoy it with me, and you know when that hand goes up and

36:31

everyone in the stadium wraps with the suit,

36:33

that's me personally. I imagine York gets

36:36

a real air with the jump as well. Oh yeah, I'm

36:38

up for a while. I'm up for a while. Not

36:40

hang tight. Don't do that Old Trafford

36:42

with the parlour state of the construction that we've got already,

36:45

with them thighs. Never

36:48

mind that, get the food sorted. Greg?

36:51

Well, I'm worried we don't have enough managerial tension

36:54

in the Premier League right now, there's no Mourinho anymore,

36:56

we don't have Saralas, we don't have Arson, but

36:59

what I would do in scoring is go

37:01

and try and replicate that

37:04

Thomas Tuchel-Antonio Conte aggressive

37:07

handshake when they kind of spin each other around

37:09

like a dancer. See if the other goalie falls

37:11

for it, because I'm obsessed

37:13

with that handshake. Tuchel's coming in, he's

37:15

got the ball cap on, and Conte

37:18

just kind of, it was a true, like Torval

37:20

and Dean didn't have a move that good at the Olympics.

37:24

If you played the layer, I'd watch it a hundred times.

37:28

I think you do that to the other keeper when you put the

37:30

ball past it. Good

37:32

answers. No mention of a gaza celebration

37:35

at Euro 96. Surprising. The

37:37

Las Vegas Grand Prix has had, I

37:40

mean this is kind, a sticky start, including

37:42

a practice session that finished at four o'clock in the morning in

37:45

front of empty stands and manhole

37:47

covers getting checked on the street circuit. World

37:49

champion Max Verstappen basically

37:52

hates it. He said it's 99% showing 1%

37:55

sporting event, so my question is quite

37:57

a simple reverse. What event is 99%

37:59

sporting event? sports and

38:01

only 1% show Greg.

38:04

Well I'm gonna sound for people who've

38:06

heard a couple of prior episodes or 178

38:09

or whatever this is gonna sound like I'm a bit

38:11

of a hypocrite. I don't like loud arenas

38:13

and stadiums I don't need you know

38:15

like music going during an NBA

38:18

game while the plays going on but I

38:20

think Wimbledon Rick I think we could

38:22

jazz it up I'm done with the all-white

38:25

I want the players to have intros like pro

38:27

wrestlers I want the lights to go

38:29

down strobes focusing

38:32

on the Royal box with all the guests like

38:34

we the US opens like a rock and roll

38:36

concert late at night yelling and screaming

38:39

and draft beer and Wimbledon is still sort

38:41

of you know whiteness and

38:43

Kurt the clothes I met and curtsies

38:45

and bows and the curious like he was

38:47

like fed up you put on those red and black

38:50

Nikes right away as soon as he was done

38:52

the match is that breaking the rule let's get Wimbledon

38:54

jazzed up a little bit yeah I

38:56

find that quite offensive actually

38:59

great. I was hoping so. Did you just

39:01

say less strobes more strobes? If

39:05

only you'd kept it to that. Kate.

39:07

I would disagree that it being 99%

39:09

percent sport and 1% show

39:12

is a bad thing right I'm gonna come with me

39:14

I've been over the course of the summer saying you said I'd mind

39:16

to bike World Cup as you know. Fell

39:19

foul of some cycling fans

39:21

last time I was on and there's

39:24

two different kinds of mountain biking that we do downhill

39:26

which

39:26

is some mad stuff. Let me guess

39:28

what the other one is? Up hill.

39:31

Yeah maybe they should

39:33

have made the distinction. I'm gonna give myself

39:35

a point here. I've been to watch downhill

39:37

mountain biking. Has

39:41

it? Since I came on last. Amazingly

39:44

no. And the other one is cross country Olympics

39:47

and it's the Olympic stuff and that does you correct.

39:49

Yeah uphill

39:50

as well as downhill and often

39:52

it is absolutely I can't say that word

39:54

it's really really raining hard and

39:57

it is mud just absolutely everywhere.

40:00

the wheels get completely bunged up by the

40:02

mud and they are trying to push

40:04

the bike up. They have to get off their way and cleats as well.

40:06

So they're just like slithering around trying to

40:08

get off. It's quite plastic. It's

40:11

tough. And yeah, in the

40:13

world, the cycling world champion, Glaadz, goes to tweet me. As

40:15

you can imagine, the weather wasn't beautiful. And there was this Nepalese

40:17

woman, first Nepalese woman to participate

40:19

in the cross-country Olympic mountain biking. She

40:21

was right out the back. And I just

40:23

think it was beautiful. That

40:26

is 100% sport.

40:27

That is 100% sport. Harry? Obviously

40:30

on the Olympic scene, probably 98% of

40:33

sports only exist every four

40:35

years. One of those being judo.

40:38

Literally, you could... Unfortunately,

40:40

they don't get a lot of love. They could rock up, put a

40:43

mat in a school sports hall and they

40:46

take it out. You get someone splitting your face.

40:48

Your white gowns is just pretty

40:50

much straight up beating them up. And I think it's

40:53

hard when you're in an Olympic sport because that's

40:55

all you have. You're prepping for four years and

40:57

you

40:57

get one little bit of limelight

40:59

and a little bit of praise and that's it. I

41:02

think if a load of judo world champions walked

41:04

in, I'm not sure we're recognising them. I

41:06

feel like Kate might have a judo champion backed up. Yeah,

41:09

I'd hope to. But I wouldn't catch it. You'd

41:11

all be Googling for you. Kate Jones, isn't

41:14

it? Yeah, very good. Very

41:16

good. I'll give you a point for that. Justin?

41:18

One word, darts. They

41:21

keep throwing loads of money at you trying to make it show business. Just

41:23

three words again. It's acrylic, it's

41:25

stellar altoire, it's body odour. That's all

41:27

it is. I'm not much money to throw at it. But

41:29

you say that like it's a bad thing, Justin. It's a bad thing.

41:32

Do you ever bring in bears? You're going to the dart. That's

41:34

an experience. Exactly. And

41:36

I'm not really there for the sport. Okay,

41:40

let's have a quick check

41:42

in with the scores. Oh, I've worked

41:45

to do here. Harry on 29, Kate

41:47

and Greg on 32. Justin

41:49

keeping up his rate of getting into the final

41:51

by the looks of it on 41. He's miles

41:54

ahead. We are a bit short

41:56

on time actually. We shouldn't do this live, really. So

41:59

rival. boxing promoters

42:01

Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren shared a

42:03

stage for the first time after two

42:05

of their fighters were included in a Saudi boxing

42:08

show it's on the 23rd December, Deontay

42:10

Wilder and Anthony Joshua, Daniel Dubois

42:13

all on it. Who were the other sporting

42:15

pairs that might present

42:17

an even more uncomfortable vibe than

42:19

Eddie and Frank? Let's

42:23

go Harry. Graham

42:26

Sunez and Pogba I

42:29

would absolutely love to

42:31

see that. Make the Pogba ass happen. Make it

42:33

happen. And I hope

42:35

Pogba would walk in with like the fanciest hairdo

42:38

and with the biggest rings and earrings and everything

42:40

that would be amazing to see. I could

42:42

take that yeah I could take that and go on further.

42:45

I paid big money no mediator no fancy

42:47

footwork no music

42:50

live tonight in conversation to Alex Ferguson

42:52

and Roy Keene. Oh

42:54

yes please.

42:57

They'd end up having a cuddle wouldn't they?

42:58

I don't know.

43:01

Anybody feud who's been caught that's been called

43:03

terrible tacky and childish I want to see

43:05

Mercedes, Toto Wolf and Red Bull's Christian

43:07

Horner.

43:08

But I wonder if that's

43:10

all pantomime. I'm not going to actually.

43:13

Go on then. Greg. What about a reunited

43:20

we get Serena Williams she's retired

43:22

now I think it's a prime mellow less

43:25

in the battle and the umpire

43:28

from the US Open in 2000 and 18.

43:31

Let's just let's make this work. She keeps

43:34

still asking for an apology five

43:36

years later. We can make this work with them

43:38

on stage and break bread. We are the world

43:40

type stuff. I think we could make it happen. Yeah I go

43:42

and see that if I could remember to download the app

43:45

before I ever think. Okay

43:48

just time for another quick round.

43:51

So we'd use a snooker players well

43:53

not news. Snooker players have been wearing darts

43:55

style nicknames on the backs and

43:58

fronts I think of their shirts. Jimmy

44:00

White's is spectacular, he looks as good as you'd

44:02

expect. If I were to

44:05

check the back of your fighting talk jersey,

44:07

what would I read Harry? Obviously

44:11

I've been dubbed the Candy Floss Kid before. I

44:14

have a love for your sugar. Obviously I run

44:16

fast, it gives me a little bit of energy. It's

44:18

got to be Harrybo, straight up. Oh,

44:20

it's nice. It's a kid of mine, I love

44:23

it so. Yeah, yeah,

44:25

yeah, yeah. And it's a lovely bit of advertising

44:27

that we shouldn't really do on the BBC. Er,

44:30

so good. And

44:33

what are you going for, Justin? Well, whilst we're there, I'm

44:35

going for a... What do you want, free?

44:38

I'm going to have the name after, but I'll be number eight, just

44:40

for the sponsorship. OK,

44:43

what are you going for? Chiwits or something, Kate?

44:46

Ooh, interesting point. I want to change my answer,

44:48

but what I've gone for, because I'm hard and

44:50

I say it like it is, Mason's

44:53

Statham.

44:54

Statham? Yes. Ritten

44:57

Down, you can see it. You can't see it. You

45:00

can't... I mean, do you want to explain it to Justin? So

45:03

Jason's Statham is like a hard guy. Yeah.

45:06

So it's got a random name. Yeah. And then it

45:08

states them. Yeah, states them. Like

45:10

Kate. Yeah. No, like I'm

45:12

saying stuff. I'm like telling it like it is. Yeah. Mason's

45:15

just got an explanation on the top as well. Yeah.

45:18

Yeah. It's got asterisk. Asterisk,

45:20

yeah. Yeah,

45:21

people would have to pay more, obviously, for all of the... It's

45:23

got to be cute, I'll call it. So

45:25

so far, we've got Haribo after

45:28

Mason's Statham. I sound hard. Come

45:30

on. How do you understand? Yeah,

45:32

you sound angry now. Greg.

45:36

Somehow, and only in ice hockey

45:38

circles, I was doing commentary

45:41

for seven years for a hockey team, and

45:43

I was called Braids. And I'd

45:45

never been... Like the last name has a sort

45:47

of E to it. Like Rick, you'd be like Eddie

45:49

or Ricky. Like that's what people would probably

45:52

call you, right? But Brady's

45:54

sitting right there. It's an open

45:56

goal, as Kate said earlier, and they just decided

45:58

to go with Braids. Instead. That

46:01

didn't make sense to me. Yeah, I

46:03

think it's a bit of mockery. Yeah. I

46:05

think, yes. Should I get breaks for

46:08

the hearing? Yeah, I mean, at least get a

46:10

wig or something. Something.

46:13

All right, let's have a little check. Yes,

46:15

I mean, Justin's still miles out ahead, I'm afraid.

46:18

Any other business? Let's

46:20

start with you, Kate.

46:21

Oh, cool. I've changed mine. That's

46:23

been huge. Things going all right.

46:26

So I've treated myself to a midweek takeaway

46:29

delivered by a delivery company, which

46:31

I won't name. There are lots available, aren't there?

46:32

Yeah. Have it on the back of your shirt if

46:34

you like. I've

46:36

gone for Curry, because, you know. He's

46:39

three-

46:49

I'm

46:56

a panic name. Yeah. The delivery

47:00

guy arrives with it. He's sort

47:02

of flaming about a little bit. The bag

47:04

seems

47:05

to fall over when he's driving over. The

47:07

bag is ripped. Okay.

47:08

I don't know if he trips. I don't know what

47:10

happens. But he drops a bomb of Curry on

47:13

the front door

47:15

of my house, which not only hits the front

47:18

door, smears all the way down, goes into

47:20

the carpet, into the stair carpet.

47:23

He goes, oh, should

47:25

I go and get you another one?

47:26

No, no, I'm going

47:28

to drink it out of the bag. Yeah.

47:30

So he leaves. I don't know what else

47:32

I'm supposed to do. I'm still standing there in shock, kind of covered

47:34

in Curry. He leaves. I

47:36

look in the app to see when my actual

47:38

Curry is arriving. It says, delivery

47:41

completed. The delivery could

47:43

not be less completed if he'd eaten

47:45

by Curry

47:45

on the way over, thrown the packaging

47:48

in at my door. If you want to hear the rest of it, right, just

47:50

hit the red button or something. We're

47:52

going to have to move on, because I think you're hyperventilating.

47:56

Help me take them down. Greg, any

47:58

other business, please?

47:59

At some point in time, a person

48:02

on public transit decided, you know what, I

48:04

really need to hear this 25 second

48:07

comedy bit or a bit of this song. And

48:09

they didn't have headphones with them. And they went

48:11

ahead and played it. And at some point, the

48:14

rest of the people on public transit decided

48:16

to just say, ah, it's a one time

48:18

thing. It probably doesn't happen anywhere else. It

48:20

happens everywhere else now. What happened

48:23

to headphones? I get on

48:25

transit and all I hear is everybody

48:27

playing stuff from their individual phones.

48:30

Where did we lose control? How do we find another planet

48:32

for these people to live

48:35

on? All right. All right. Chill

48:37

out, Brady. Chill out. Justin.

48:40

Just quick. If

48:42

you're doing your big shop this weekend and you can afford

48:44

it, pick up a couple of extra advent calendars,

48:47

stick them in the food bank thing, then somebody

48:49

who lives near you will get a little bit of joy this Christmas

48:51

because if moms and dads are using food banks, they're not

48:53

going to be having advent calendars. It's a great

48:56

one. Hard to follow, I think, Harry. I'm going to sound really

48:58

selfish. I'm going to sound really sound sensitive. And I think I speak for a few people

49:00

out there. You don't wear headphones, do you? No, I need people to wear

49:02

these. No, I'm going to sound sensitive. You

49:04

must hate the gun. Literally. That's what

49:06

scares me. Slow start again from Harry. He's gone on the

49:09

G of fang. they're going to be like,

49:11

oh, I'm going to sleep. I'm going to sleep. I'm going to

49:13

sleep. I'm going to sleep. Absolutely.

49:16

He's gone on the G of fang. No,

49:19

but literally, in sound sensitivity, I think when

49:22

people like tap their feet, tap their nails,

49:24

tap their shoes, just little irritable things

49:26

that kind of tick you off. I think there's a few people out

49:28

there that can relate to that. All

49:30

right. So we haven't got much time here.

49:33

But final scores are Harry, you didn't come third,

49:35

you came last, unlucky. But you've been fantastic. I'll

49:37

take that. 39, Kate on 41, better

49:39

than last time. But still not

49:41

good. Greg on 42, Justin on 53. Greg

49:45

and Justin go head to head. Defend the indefensible,

49:47

ridiculous statement. You have to

49:50

answer it by say, I mean

49:52

you. Justin,

49:54

you scored the most points. You

49:56

go first. And you have 20 seconds.

50:00

on this. I always

50:02

prepare for fighting talk by consuming

50:04

a large bowl of chicken feet. I

50:07

love chicken feet. It's the only thing I eat as a vegan.

50:09

I eat chicken feet, a bit of veal, chicken

50:12

feet and a rhino steak. I just

50:14

eat chicken feet. That's all I ever eat. I don't know

50:16

if you can, you know you can get vegan chicken feet. Somewhere

50:19

it's out in Shoredick. It's like a hipster

50:22

chicken foot vegan shop where

50:24

comedians go. You've got to be in show business to get there.

50:26

I'm delighted with that. Power me forward.

50:29

I've really changed your act. Greg,

50:32

you have 20 seconds on.

50:35

All Formula One races should be staged in Las

50:37

Vegas at 2am and raced over open

50:39

manhole covers from now on. Well

50:42

why not? If we want this sport to be one

50:44

for the people, why should they drive where we

50:46

drive? Why should they also have to avoid pedestrians,

50:49

cyclists, rollerbladers, wheelchairs?

50:53

I'll go there. There's so many obstacles

50:55

on the road in this day and age. Why should they

50:57

get this track where there's nothing else? It's

51:00

just zoom, zoom, zoom and there's no impediments.

51:03

You've got to say it is just zoom,

51:05

zoom, zoom and no impediments. I

51:08

think you have it won, Greg, until

51:10

you said wheelchairs. Oh come on. I'm excited. I

51:12

think you lost everyone. You're like, this

51:15

is fantastic. What the?

51:18

So I'm going to give it to Justin. Unlucky

51:20

Greg, you threw it away right at the end there. Justin

51:23

was out in the lead. It feels right that he'd win.

51:26

That is it from us. I

51:29

don't know. I don't like doing it live. I think that's a

51:31

pre-recorded from now on. Five

51:33

Live Sport is up next but now it's the news

51:35

with Laura Hart.

51:37

Fighting Talk is a world-term production

51:39

for BBC Radio 5 Live.

51:41

Hello.

51:41

You're listening to the podcast extra of Fighting

51:44

Talk. We did, well

51:46

I mean I lost control of the timings,

51:48

I'll be honest. So we missed out a question

51:50

and it was one that I quite wanted to do so we're going to do it

51:53

now. And it's this. A

51:55

big week in confectionery. A position to try

51:57

and persuade Cadbury's to keep making the Karamak bar.

52:00

nearly 30,000 voters. Meanwhile,

52:03

Hotel Chocolat has sold up to Mars for $288

52:05

million. So, obviously,

52:08

I want sports people as chocolate

52:11

bars. Before we get into it,

52:13

Kate has got someone to go and run to

52:15

her bag to get a prop. So

52:17

I'm going to come to you last, Kate, and this

52:19

prop had better be worse. What's amazing about that, though, is that...

52:22

It's actually

52:22

secondary. My aunt's there who's not

52:23

connected to the prop. Kate

52:26

used to be a runner on this show. She's done nothing but

52:28

treat the runner. She's done a runner on

52:30

this show with disdain. I know. I know. All the props

52:32

are right. I don't think you should be saying

52:35

things like that. That's

52:37

how you're a runner on this show, Kate. Me and Liberty

52:39

are great friends. Oh, Liberty's done his stuff

52:41

for Kate. Liberty's

52:44

not done anything for any of us. I assume that Liberty was

52:46

her PA. If

52:48

you do want work, I

52:49

can offer that. I definitely do need

52:51

a PA. Now, my answer isn't this.

52:53

You need a food delivery person. Yeah, we're going

52:55

to... Do you want to sit? No, not yet. I feel, what

52:57

are we supposed to... We're going to feed the panel. Are you going to

52:59

feed it so that they've taken a turn? Am I

53:01

allowed to swear on this podcast? I mean,

53:04

yeah... No. Yeah, no. Yeah, come

53:06

on. No.

53:07

There's no bleeping point in getting

53:09

rid of chocolate now, because I was once hoping

53:11

to do it earlier and suck up to you

53:12

all. Yeah.

53:15

I'm still going to come round to you last, OK? And then you

53:17

can hand out your goodies. Like...

53:19

Oh, no. I was about to say... OK. Stop

53:22

talking. Greg, sports

53:25

person is a chocolate bar, please. I'm making a chocolate bar I've

53:27

heard of. Well, whisper.

53:30

I had to pick one that was in the UK that I've only had,

53:32

I think, a couple of times from my various

53:34

trips over there. But I always was waiting

53:36

for it to come over here, and that's whisper. Yeah. And

53:38

it's described as very straight and to the

53:40

point. And it seems Jordan had

53:42

to do it in that way. Have you had to whisper gold? Yeah.

53:45

You can get a little bite. No, but what's different?

53:47

The whisper gold has got a little bit of caramel

53:49

in it. It's good, actually. Very nice. Oh, just a little

53:51

bit. But it's described as straight and to

53:53

the point, and I thought, what footballer is kind of like

53:56

that? And I thought about Jordan Henderson. Yeah.

53:58

Terribly flashy. He's not violent,

54:01

he's not behind the play. He's

54:03

just perfunctory, he's very

54:05

straight and to the point. Even though there's

54:07

some dynamic players he's played with at Liverpool

54:10

over the years, they've won a ton, but the

54:12

Henderson's just kind of there, but

54:14

reliable. And that's Whisper, apparently,

54:16

on confectionary shelves. Yeah, and Whisper

54:18

are going over to Saudi Arabia for the money as well, I think. True,

54:22

also true. Harry.

54:24

Pretty simple, smooth,

54:27

silky, Godiva chocolate, Belgian

54:29

chocolate, Kevin De Bruyne. Oh yeah.

54:32

It's up there. Honeycomb though. You know what

54:34

you're going to get? Honeycomb, innit, though, wouldn't you? Well, there's

54:36

different types of things. A bit of ginger in there. I do love honeycomb,

54:39

but that's, is that, you know... You might as well have a crunchy if

54:41

you're going to have honeycomb. Yeah, but if

54:43

the crunchy is not classy like De Bruyne. No, that's

54:45

what I'm saying, you know. Top 10. You get

54:47

Godiva in a meal deal, you probably don't. No. Always

54:51

expensive meal deal. This is one of the most expensive

54:53

things at the airport. Why

54:56

have you got me this again, Harry? No.

55:00

Justin. Anthony,

55:02

place for United, he could be a twirl. He's

55:05

fancy but ultimately empty of content. And

55:07

I don't mess, he's a wagon wheel because when

55:10

you see him, he's always smaller than you remember. And

55:15

now the big moment, Kate, the reveal. What

55:17

have you got us?

55:18

The reveal, the reveal. I'm

55:20

hoping. The reveal is I am actually a chocolate

55:23

bar. Oh, wow.

55:26

I was

55:26

going to let you eat it, but now it's

55:28

too late. That

55:29

was Tony, good

55:31

chocolate as well. That's

55:33

like high end. We're having a photo

55:35

taken. But

55:37

my real answer, I think anyone can get them. Hold on a minute.

55:40

If someone got it for me. You built that as I

55:42

bought you in a gift. Yeah, you can eat that. That's

55:44

just advertising your own show.

55:45

No, that's not my show. I was a guest

55:47

on it. Oh, okay. Yeah, and it was

55:49

like a gift. But I do have a show called

55:51

the football gods and you should all listen to that. I've also got a radio

55:53

for documentary about how to spot potential. What?

55:56

It's our date. I

55:58

mean, it's all about.

55:59

I mean, I've never said that. Is that a date

56:02

like Tottenham's trophy aspirations? Well,

56:04

actually, funny

56:05

you should mention Tottenham's trophy

56:08

aspirations. And the one I was going to go for, I'm

56:10

a bit nervous that no one will have heard of it. Do you guys know

56:12

what a Lamington is? Yes. Yeah,

56:14

OK, because it's an Aussie sort of cake

56:16

chocolate thing, and it's got solid chocolate

56:19

on the outside, and then it's a bit crumbly inside, and

56:21

I was thinking it's like Tottenham.

56:22

Yeah. Because

56:24

we look quite good at the start of the season, then

56:26

we have a few injuries, a few people sent

56:27

off. You crumble. It's a little bit in the middle.

56:30

Spare the. Yeah. OK.

56:33

And just... Wow, mate. See,

56:35

the other thing... Wow. The thing

56:37

that I want to get into is how you've made it as a professional GB

56:39

sprinter as an asthmatic. OK. That

56:42

doesn't make sense. I suppose you don't

56:44

breathe during 100s. Yeah,

56:46

you take a few breaths. Yeah, you're

56:48

taking loads. I've been ventilating.

56:51

No, do you know what it is? It's

56:53

obviously, yes, I've run for 10 seconds. It's the training

56:56

that's the hardest part. It's

56:58

all just that, isn't it? Yeah. Just 20 seconds

57:00

and dancing. Yeah, literally.

57:03

It's more so like the weather. The

57:05

weather is a big factor. Dealing with

57:07

cold conditions. It's quite funny to have arguments

57:09

with my mum in her African accent.

57:12

She would turn around. It's cold winter, obviously,

57:14

we're dealing with it now. And I'll be getting up and

57:16

I'm going. I'm going training 6.30 in the evening.

57:19

And she's like, where are you going? I'm like, Mum, I'm going training. How

57:21

about it's too cold? Yes, I am. Your chest,

57:23

your chest. Everything is your chest. And I literally just think I've pushed

57:25

myself. I've put myself in uncomfortable situations.

57:28

And yes, I've had a few close

57:30

asthma attacks, but you've got to learn your limits, learn your

57:32

boundaries. Luckily, I'm a sprinter

57:35

and it's just about allowing yourself,

57:38

understanding yourself and pushing yourself. I love it. I

57:41

love the fact that he's nearly died a few times just

57:43

so he can go to the Olympics and just be part

57:45

of the sprint squad team and not get a medal. Literally,

57:49

giving my whole life to him. Well, you're asthma more problematic

57:52

when you're doing gladiators than it is. Oh,

57:54

do you know what? Yeah, there's it

57:57

wasn't too bad at certain points. There

57:59

was one event where I was like throwing the asthma

58:01

pump. Is a new event coming out? I thought

58:03

that was the name of the event. Throwing

58:05

the asthma pump. It's a bit more budget. Yeah, we've got

58:07

a full-screen. It's been wheelchairs. Get it? On

58:11

the F1 track. The

58:14

moment I like there really was Harry talking in detail

58:16

about his training to be a professional athlete

58:19

and Justin just nodding and going, yeah. You

58:21

know what I'm talking about. Exactly, exactly. It's

58:24

called empathy. Greg,

58:26

you threw away the win there. Why did you do that? I

58:29

didn't think I did. I was trying to be as

58:32

absolutely include everybody. Strollers

58:35

were coming to mind as well. They called carriages or

58:37

strollers. You've got a young lad

58:39

or a young lads? A

58:41

young lad. Stroller or carriage? What do you

58:43

call it? I thought you meant like really old people. Yeah.

58:46

No. I could have done that. That's a locker,

58:49

isn't it? We call it a pram. A pram or a

58:51

buggy. Do you know a pram or a buggy? Oh,

58:53

a pram. Yeah, yeah. Well, put toys out

58:55

of the pram. I didn't think that was in motion though. I thought

58:58

toys out of the pram was like a playpen, which

59:00

we would call it here. No, that's a cot. No, a pram is a pram-go-ly

59:02

pen. Yeah. Gosh. You're

59:04

learning some things here, at least, Greg. I was sure. I've

59:07

thought for 30 years toys out of the pram was a stationary,

59:10

like where you stick kids in so they

59:12

can crawl all over the place and are

59:14

ready to be mobile. That's a cot. Darn

59:16

it. And that is where we're going to leave it. That revelation.

59:19

Thanks everyone. I've never had a British baby, you can tell.

59:22

We have the chocolate. Yes. Can

59:24

we eat the chocolate now? Yes, we can eat the chocolate. Bye.

59:27

Bye.