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I smoke on the mic like Smoking Joe Frazier. I'm

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Rick Edwards and this is Fighting Talk.

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Good morning and welcome to the show

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which has cramp in both legs, spasming

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back pain and can't move its feet, but is

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nevertheless confident of smashing its way to an extremely

0:39

unlikely victory. So who is

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lying down at the crease like a corpse this

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week? Making her 49th appearance

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and first of 2023 after earning

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her 10th Fighting Talk victory on her most

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recent show last December. She

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also appeared on the shows when I made my debut

0:55

as a panellist and when I got my first win. So

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I have huge affection for her and that may well

0:59

be reflected

1:00

in the scoring. Former fastest

1:02

woman in the world, brackets, over 400

1:05

metres, brackets, in 2001. Catherine

1:08

Murray's here. Hello Rick. Hello. I

1:11

think our history means it's not going to go very well

1:13

for music because you don't want to give any form of bias,

1:16

so I'm defeated already. I

1:18

am so biased towards you Catherine, it's unbelievable.

1:22

I actually, well two things for you to discuss. You

1:24

were, you won't mind me saying this, running a little bit

1:26

late this morning and I just watched you out

1:29

of the window moving, this

1:31

is the best I can say, across a piazza

1:33

and you were not moving at the pace that you were moving in 2001.

1:37

Even though you knew you were late. It

1:38

was a long time ago, so

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I do apologise. One, being a little bit

1:42

late and two, not moving as quickly as you'd like.

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Yeah, I'd love you to move much

1:46

more quickly. I also have a confession.

1:49

For some reason I became absolutely convinced

1:51

that I could remember you wearing

1:53

a sort of Cathy Freeman

1:56

or Flo Jo style bodysuit. You

1:58

know where it's got the head as well.

1:59

Yes. And so I spent 15 minutes this morning

2:02

googling variations of Kath Mary Lycra.

2:05

Um, and... Oh! Couldn't find anything

2:07

but I genuinely felt quite grubby. And

2:09

also, uh, quite glad that

2:11

no one glows over my shoulder. What are

2:13

you doing? Oh no no no no nothing. Nothing. Well

2:16

good morning to you too, Ian. On

2:18

for show number 22. And

2:21

into his tenth season on the show, four

2:23

wins to his name, most recently in January, meaning

2:25

he's got a chance here to score multiple wins in

2:27

a calendar year for the first time. Senior

2:30

sports writer for The Telegraph and the man with a totally

2:32

unnecessary H in his name. Tom Gere! Yes.

2:37

Unnecessary H, but I am extremely punctual.

2:39

Let that be recorded please. Yeah, you know what?

2:42

Immediate bonus point for that Tom. You were

2:44

here. That's right. Really, all I ask is just be

2:46

here. At what point out of

2:48

interest do you decide to go with the H? And

2:51

would you ever drop it? I was a very

2:54

pretentious 16 year old and I

2:56

quite like Radiohead, so this is the logical outcome. But

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what I did, which I didn't realise at the time obviously,

3:00

was I SEO'd myself before I knew

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what SEO was. It's when you're... there's a

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lot of Tom Gibbses in the world without the H, but

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I've made myself a unique snowflake

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and I'm very easy to find on the internet. Would

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you... can we have an agreement that if you win today

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you drop the H? Absolutely not. Okay,

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I just wanted to check that. On for

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the sixth time, his record so far. Third,

3:21

Lost Defend the Undefensible, Lost Defend the

3:23

Undefensible, Lost Defend the Undefensible. Fourth,

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will today be the day

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for Radio 1's Ricky Heyward-Williams. Oh

3:32

my gosh, I'm just a glove of punishment aren't I?

3:35

You really are. Now this... I don't know what

3:37

this is. I think

3:39

it's by someone called Nick Heyward, so that'll have to

3:41

do. Well it's an absolute tune. Yeah,

3:43

I can see the shoulders going. Ricky likes it. Absolute

3:46

what? And also, just can

3:48

I please say how much I enjoy the Footballers

3:50

Football Podcast. Oh that's very kind of you, Ricky. It's really good.

3:53

Yeah, the boys have

3:55

let me into their little club, so I'm quite happy about that,

3:58

because obviously, Premier League football is a big part of it. They

4:00

might be seen to be quite guarded,

4:03

but yeah, they let me know all their jokes. They take the mic out of me

4:05

They call me Maltese ahead all the time. Yeah, it's

4:07

great work We're

4:09

getting cleared by the BBC

4:12

every time they say it It

4:15

was like is that but that is fine. Okay And

4:19

back for his fourth show returning after a very successful

4:22

debut season

4:23

third on debut Obviously then back-to-back

4:25

wins on a pace to equal his namesake

4:27

Ellis James's total of eight wins by 2027 best

4:31

average score on this panel 45. He's

4:34

a comedian and he's addressing the Disgusting

4:37

Arsenal heavy punner we had last week. He's also

4:39

a Spurs fan Josh James Very

4:43

well, thank you Another

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confession. I spent 15 minutes googling

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Josh James Lycra and I have no

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excuse for that whatsoever It

4:53

was I thought it was three times

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up in I didn't realize it was for I've obviously

4:58

forgotten about the first Sort

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of out in out where I come put everyone

5:02

erases the third. Yes, that kind of happen surely

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Okay, great to have you all with us. Let's get

5:08

going this week. We're gonna start with this

5:10

Ball's been kept in on the left hand side There's

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a lot of things to look at here It's

5:23

a total Well,

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you're gonna have to explain to me how

5:29

that's been allowed I feel embarrassed

5:31

to be part of this this is my reaction You

5:33

just have to see the images and

5:35

you just cannot believe it

5:37

He's talking about the images of Catherine Lycra course

5:40

fighting talk not scared to take

5:42

on the big topics. It's V AR So

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keep it ditch it or modify

5:47

it Josh I've

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gone for the fish. I just find it

5:52

all so boring, you know the analysis analysis

5:55

of it all It's jarring,

5:57

you know back in the old days. You've got some decisions

6:00

you didn't get others and I think let's

6:02

just go back to you know how it was

6:04

the trouble is now when you when you

6:06

you know when your team scores a goal you'd sort

6:08

of not celebrating 100% either

6:11

you know because you're waiting for the var and

6:13

yeah let's go back to the old school. Bit

6:15

of old school. Tom. Right

6:18

get Howard Webb on the zoom so I think I've got this sorted.

6:20

Great you've got to keep it in some form

6:23

right you can't put the Gianni back in the bottle

6:25

and I'm not interested in any mealy

6:27

mouth What about three here we need

6:29

strong guidance and clear rules so here we go when

6:32

a var call goes against a manager they are

6:34

all so sure they've been the victim of a terrible

6:36

personal injustice so leave it up to them

6:39

when you use the technology give them one appeal per

6:41

half to use on any incident they want love if

6:43

they're right about it they keep the appeal if

6:45

they're wrong that's the appeal gone for the half

6:47

tough luck if something else happens we

6:50

tolerate this situation in cricket football needs to

6:52

be as grown up enough to do the same

6:54

and this adds another man the strategy and

6:56

judgment and think of the sponsorship opportunities

6:59

as well every club

6:59

can have a new official flag partner as well so

7:06

I think this is clearly the way to go and if managers use

7:08

both appeals right or wrong you're not allowed

7:10

to talk about refereeing after the game yeah I mean

7:12

I really like it Ricky I'm

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I'm I'm modify just because

7:17

I just think you know we

7:19

spent so long talking about you know video

7:22

video technology and you know watching

7:24

analysis after the games and people going if we can

7:26

pause it if we can slow it down and here surely we can put

7:28

it into a game scenario we now have that

7:30

they're not going to get rid of it so let's modify

7:33

it but what I would say is this put

7:35

the main bulk of the responsibility

7:37

back in the hands of the referee refs

7:40

need to rest the game they almost need to forget

7:42

that the the VR is there and just

7:44

take control take the ball by the horns have

7:46

some balls and do it yourself and if there's

7:49

an absolute howler then you go to the VR

7:51

okay

7:53

modify all day long on

7:56

what you need is you need some form of an ex-player

7:59

or a manager because the rest, they're missing

8:01

things as they see things slightly differently. So

8:04

I think you need better people making the decisions

8:06

with real life football experience

8:08

that know the game. I think that's one thing that's needed and let's

8:10

be honest, it might then speed it

8:12

up a bit because it takes so, so

8:14

long. It is boring,

8:16

isn't it? It's boring. It's boring.

8:19

Get on with it, guys. Even make

8:21

a wrong decision quickly, please. Also,

8:24

can we just quickly check once and for all, is it

8:27

VAR or VAR? Because I just oscillate.

8:29

I don't know. It's VAR. Come on, man. VAR

8:31

sounds like really, really... Ricky's have to think

8:34

about it. What do you reckon? I prefer saying

8:36

VAR, but VAR... Yeah,

8:39

it's annoying when people say it and I get caught

8:41

between the two. I'm like a wabbit in the blue. Yeah, same. Yeah,

8:43

I don't know. Well, let's keep saying

8:46

both then. Perfect. Modify.

8:50

Is there a third way I want to... Question

8:54

number two comes from you, the listeners.

8:56

This week's question to listener is on the line.

8:59

Hello. Dom Allen. Hi,

9:02

Rick. How are you? Yeah, very well, thanks, Dom. You

9:04

are a Masters broadcast student. You're a Forest

9:06

fan and, like literally everyone

9:08

else in the world, you've got a podcast. Yeah,

9:11

yeah. Over the trend pod, yeah. Yeah, and

9:13

is it going well? Yeah, it's going all

9:16

right. We had Johnny Owens, the film director on

9:18

a few weeks ago and we've had lots of local football

9:20

fans and fans of the cast. That is a good question,

9:22

isn't it? Yeah, oh, cheers, Eric. I'm very impressed. We're

9:25

going to give you your intro song and there is a specific

9:28

reason for this, which

9:30

is how many times did you listen to

9:32

this in the promotion season? I

9:34

listened to this song on Spotify alone 314

9:37

times. I

9:39

mean, on that note point did you think maybe there's

9:41

another song? I just couldn't get

9:43

enough. I don't

9:46

know if I can really stop the listener at the point, but I have. What

9:50

is your question, Dom?

9:52

With the Beckham documentary missing out huge

9:55

parts of his career, Euros, World Cups and

9:57

even the Olympics, what part of any athlete's career?

9:59

Would you like to erase? Yes,

10:02

it's a good one actually Ricky I'm

10:06

gonna go for a playoff being

10:08

a little Liverpool fan a player that

10:10

plays for Liverpool. He burst onto the scene

10:12

in 1997 He's only

10:14

six months older than me. So I feel like I grew up with this guy.

10:17

I'm talking about Michael Owen But

10:20

the fact that Michael Owen went

10:22

to Manchester United After he's

10:24

seen a Newcastle and faced

10:26

a massive backlash from the Reds faithful. I

10:29

don't like it Arguably one of our best

10:31

ever strikers won the Ballon d'Or when

10:33

he was 22 years of age while Liverpool

10:36

Went to see a couple in 2001 incarnate

10:41

Also team as well two brilliant goals.

10:43

It was part of that treble that

10:45

treble winnings So

10:51

much hope and joy all of that is forgotten By

10:54

a massive part of the fans because he played for

10:56

United three clubs down the line after Madrid

10:59

I think it's such a shame and I think we need to put

11:01

some respect on Michael Owen's name Game

11:08

set and match Owen Yeah,

11:15

no, of course Josh well

11:18

funnily enough you should say that I've got Michael

11:21

Owen so you've got the right You've got

11:23

the wrong reason He

11:25

played with Beckham during the England days and a lot of people

11:27

looked up to Bex for me I was always in awe

11:29

of Michael Owen, but I would Arrays

11:33

his pundit free career That's

11:37

the real reason why people are forgotten about the football

11:41

Kids these days, they don't realize what we did he was

11:44

they just know him as you thought was a love island

11:48

He was the pundit that said when they

11:50

don't score they hardly ever win Okay,

11:55

Tom what have you you've

12:00

got as mike lowrey well

12:02

i i'm gonna wear repay ricky in one area

12:04

of criticism incredibly poisonous about manchester

12:07

united two i want to wear a sweater and he became

12:09

of it says spell as lesser much the united

12:12

something quite nice about the great european player

12:14

who never played in england their bit of a dying breed

12:16

next christmas to it's of caprio

12:19

back to see to the noticeable run now that

12:21

ibrahimovic could have been a modern version

12:23

of that and then he ruined day i mean he was kind of sign

12:25

at manchester united it just wasn't very exciting

12:28

because he says software who's best consumed occasionally

12:31

on you tube several amazing

12:33

moments in every series but objectively

12:35

not that fun to watch every week much less

12:37

session an episode or

12:39

are just the buckeyes united slots and

12:41

ruined his mystique and if you want to ruin his mistake

12:44

eden more resist terrible book of

12:47

as the recommend iced and gas i

12:49

would erase

12:49

the last lap

12:52

restarted that race in

12:54

abu dhabi into and twenty want to

12:56

be hamilton's hurry

12:57

at the cinema guns right word

13:00

the said nana guns

13:00

that robbed threat will break the white so

13:02

what have i got drivers but of my son and other

13:06

side of

13:10

the sites all right

13:11

but said the right the first would have

13:13

one and as that a mess with

13:15

the arise from hamilton

13:16

career because then surely with not be

13:18

talking about anybody else is the greatest of all

13:20

time right that wouldn't be as it i suppose

13:23

that moment in happiness yeah

13:25

i mean if you make a fair point i think

13:28

are going to hear this one more time discuss a can never have

13:30

a sign up

13:33

after an absence

13:35

of us a assess the others are

13:37

so he wanted to balance or the same year that you

13:39

are the fastest women in the world ruckus over four hundred

13:41

basis of activities as an idea with

13:44

my like or on ah now

13:46

the dome a get i always this is a

13:48

i guess like such a forget we got caught on the why because

13:50

you were this is all about very price makes

13:53

am who you're going to gave three bonus

13:55

points to

13:56

work on give it's f one on a covert

13:58

give it to my pillow in says gonna have

13:59

there's Latin arts from Tom Gibbs, not

14:02

only because I hate Latin, but I also

14:05

need Tom Gibbs to give me a job in sports

14:07

writing. Please feel free

14:09

to slide into my DM. Do

14:15

this on your own time please. Thanks

14:17

very much Tom, cynical when I like it. Go

14:21

on, cheers. Next up,

14:23

the Cricket World Cup and this.

14:26

In scenes which really at this

14:28

level of cricket is almost unbelievable.

14:31

He throws the helmet down, Angelo Matthews

14:34

out for naught, timed out.

14:37

Well this is really quite baffling.

14:39

At this level of cricket you do not expect

14:42

to see this sort of thing.

14:44

Yeah, cricketer Angelo Matthews was incensed

14:47

when he was given out for taking too long to be ready at

14:50

the crease, claiming his helmet strap had

14:52

broken, which to be fair it had. He said

14:54

he couldn't believe that Bangladesh could stoop

14:56

to that level,

14:57

but who in sport has stooped

15:00

even lower? Kath.

15:03

Rosie Ruiz? Anybody? Anybody Rosie

15:05

Ruiz? No. Nobody for Rosie Ruiz?

15:07

Nobody for Rosie. Well she was working as

15:09

a secretary at the time in Manhattan, that's probably

15:11

why, but in 1980

15:14

she went on to become the female winner of the

15:16

Boston Marathon.

15:17

Right. She ran 2 hours 31

15:19

minutes. It was a third part of the

15:21

time of all time in 1980. But

15:24

sufficient for raise and there was quite a few

15:26

red flags when she crossed the line. She

15:29

wasn't out of breath, no other athlete

15:31

had seen her on the course and was 25 minutes faster

15:34

than her lifetime personal best. It

15:36

took them 8 days to strip

15:38

Rosie Ruiz of the title. When

15:41

they realised that she

15:42

jumped on the course, check this out guys,

15:46

half a mile from the finish she

15:48

took the absolute mix.

15:50

She didn't run a 10k, a little 5k.

15:53

She jumped on 800 metres before

15:55

the finish, 42,000 metres plus of the marathon.

15:58

She took the absolute mix.

17:49

It

18:00

was by a manager, the manager of

18:02

Real Madrid at the time, Carson Meyers back to 2011. Jose

18:05

Mourinho was at the height of his battle with trying

18:07

to knock Barcelona off their perch in Spain. And

18:10

this game in particular was the Spanish Super

18:12

Cup. Now, Barcelona had won the league of the season before

18:14

and the Champions League, so Mourinho was under a lot of

18:16

pressure to perform. And to perform,

18:19

he did. After losing a late goal

18:21

to Lionel Messi, to lose 3-2, 5-4 in

18:24

aggregate after the game, teams became

18:26

ugly. There was a massive melee between the

18:28

players and the staff on both

18:29

sides. And Mourinho targeted

18:32

Barcelona's number two at the time, Tito

18:35

Villanova, and carried out the

18:37

now infamous eye gouge or eye poke.

18:40

And up until this point, for me, Jose Mourinho

18:42

was a lovable rogue, but this incident was his

18:44

journey complete to the dark side.

18:47

Let's check in

18:49

with the score. Cass

18:52

has only 10 points, they're

18:54

given on bias towards you, Cass, that is all. Ricky

18:57

and Josh tied on 12,

18:59

but Tom and his ex-

19:06

Cass,

19:19

is Cass in her all-in-one- I knew I'd

19:21

seen it. I absolutely knew it. So why isn't

19:23

it on Google? It is, you just weren't putting the

19:26

right words in. I wasn't putting the right words in. You know what it was

19:28

called? It was a Swiss suit.

19:30

And those wondering, it was the Swiss

19:32

suit that Kathy Freeman wore to win the Olympic

19:34

for this time. I remember. There you

19:36

go. Yeah, I wore one earlier

19:37

in the season as we had the same sponsor, but surprisingly,

19:39

I never wore it again.

19:40

I write

19:42

down usually one thing in every

19:44

show and what I've written down today is Swiss suit. And I don't

19:47

know why, really. But

19:50

I will give you a point because it's innovative. Yeah,

19:52

wow. Anyone else want

19:54

to show me a picture? No? OK, we

19:56

move on. Frankie D'Tore and Tony

19:58

Bellu are- But other than

20:01

them there's a distinct lack of

20:03

sporty types in the jungle on the latest edition

20:05

of I'm a Celebrity So throw one

20:07

in for me and tell us why they

20:09

would be entertaining Tom

20:12

I think you've got to be clear here that so-called

20:14

big characters are actually quite tedious

20:17

in the context of reality TV Dennis Rodman

20:19

on Big Brother hair and tattoos interesting

20:21

for a couple of minutes Then very little beyond that Jimmy

20:23

Bullard accused the bullying on I'm a celebrity

20:26

and was voted out for Joey Barton Absolutely

20:29

rubbish at Bristol Rovers, which is not technically a reality

20:31

show but good to get in the league Yeah, I've read for

20:33

Rovers and Joey Barton and so

20:36

someone slightly left field for us for every kid this year Judy

20:38

Murray now Oh, she is no

20:40

nonsense. She speaks her mind and I can't see

20:42

her being in any way worried about eating a big plate

20:44

of spiders Not

20:47

spiders again every season

20:52

I'll keep it quick Nick Kiri

20:54

off I

20:59

don't need any other words. There you go. Sometimes the rest

21:01

of the panel just not along I've

21:06

gone for and pasta cobbler.

21:08

I hope I pronounce his word name properly there. I'm

21:10

not very good at talking He's

21:16

a very likeable funny bloke and he and it's

21:18

a bit strange that there's actually something that you know West

21:20

and guilty and after fans fans actually

21:23

like about further than him He's got that

21:25

a and right effect and he seems

21:27

people just can't help but like him He's also

21:29

from Australia. So I think he'd be pretty

21:31

comfortable in the jungle. Oh, yeah, perfect

21:34

Send him home Ricky. I've gone for

21:36

former Jillingham. I have to rumble doing a

21:38

Wiccan Wanderers striker adebayo

21:41

Akken one Built

21:43

like an absolute gladiator. So we'll scare

21:46

off any animals in any tasks great

21:48

sense of humor And I'm sure that he was in talks

21:50

to like me involved in the WWE So

21:53

he's obviously an entertaining guy. I reckon

21:54

he would absolutely smash it in the jungle Yeah,

21:56

any of you fancy yourself in the jungle? Yeah,

21:59

I don't eat salad or nothing like that. Oh,

22:01

so I think that might be a bit... Well, they're not really offered

22:03

salad, aren't they? Well, you know... I don't think it's

22:05

a prerequisite, right? I eat burger and chips,

22:07

and I don't think there's a lot of that in the ground going

22:09

on in this place.

22:10

Oh, I'd have a crack at anything, me. Wear a light,

22:12

cracker

22:12

in the jungle. Famously so, yeah. I'm all over it,

22:14

yeah. Tom? Oh, no. I

22:17

don't think there's any amount of money in the world that could be... No,

22:19

no, no. Oh, God, no. Trust

22:21

me, there is an amount of money that we're convincing. They

22:24

all say that. I

22:26

was suffering enough here for sitting on my normal ergonomic

22:28

chair. Ricky,

22:30

you must have been asked to do some of these things. I've had

22:32

talks a couple of times. Have you now?

22:35

But never actually... You know when they just

22:37

put the feelers out, but I could never go on that show. I'm

22:39

absolutely terrified of snakes.

22:42

I could just never do it. And I'm a fussy

22:45

eater as well, so I couldn't eat like a blended

22:47

can of whatever it is. And

22:50

I'm a massive snorer as well. So,

22:52

the camera ladies would hate me for getting... They'd

22:54

get no sleep, I'd get no stars, they'd be hungry, I'd

22:56

be the most hated man in camp. I couldn't

22:58

do it. I think you might be good value on it. Let's

23:02

have a look at the scores before we go to the news. Calf

23:04

has got 14, Ricky on 15, Josh on 17, Tom on 18.

23:09

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Welcome back

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to

23:54

Fighting Talk. Welcome back to

23:56

our panel. Catherine Merry, Tom Gibbs,

23:59

Ricky Hayward, Williams.

23:59

James and Josh James on this

24:02

day in Fighting Talk history. The

24:04

11th November 2017, comedian

24:06

Tom Parry talks about the great Steve Bull, goalkeeper

24:09

Mark Swartz talks about stand up paddle boarding, Samson

24:12

Greenway pitch wasps and netball the musical

24:14

and Justin Morehouse notched up his 19th

24:16

Fighting Talk win. It was a

24:18

classic in six years time.

24:21

Will we be talking about this episode? So

24:23

far I'd say unlikely.

24:27

Same change of time. Five points for one of you,

24:30

none for the rest. I award the bonus points to

24:32

whoever I agree with or just like

24:34

the best or have seen in Lycra. But

24:36

the main thing is, I just

24:38

have to remember not to award any other points during your answers which

24:40

I really struggle with. I'm trigger

24:43

happy. NFL quarterback Patrick

24:45

Mahomes of the Kansas City Chiefs has included

24:47

a par three golf hole and a 40 yard

24:50

NFL field in his new home. But what would

24:52

be your special features you'd like

24:54

to have in your home if you were designing the ultimate

24:57

sporting gaff? Josh. I

25:00

don't know if you've ever been to Thailand. I've

25:03

actually not, but I've seen

25:05

this thing online. And yeah,

25:09

I've not sold it pretty well there. I've done

25:11

it so well. Basically you get these

25:13

bars and they have a boxing ring in the middle and

25:15

then they have a trained Muay Thai fighter in

25:17

the boxing ring and you can go up and

25:19

you can fight him and if you do all right you can

25:21

win some free drinks. And I just thought, how good would

25:23

it be if you had one of these in your garden

25:26

next to your bar with a trained Muay Thai

25:28

fighter, you get your mates around. Do you know the ones that think

25:30

they're a bit tasty? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If they have

25:32

a few drinks and you're like, go on then, let's let them

25:35

see how good you are and watch them get

25:37

humbled real quick. Oh,

25:40

do you want to go to Josh's for drinks? No, not after the last

25:42

time. Didn't wake

25:44

up for three days. Kath.

25:45

My garden, it couldn't

25:48

have gotten in the Chelsea Flower Show previously before

25:50

Children, but to be honest it would have come close. I was very proud

25:53

of it. But nowadays, good grief. My

25:55

son has absolutely destroyed

25:57

my back garden. It's an embarrassment. There's hardly any

25:59

grass. because the patches have just been worn

26:01

out, especially through COVID times, when he had nowhere else

26:03

to play. So what I'd do is I'd just rip

26:06

out the whole garden and double it up with

26:08

a half all-weather netball court and

26:10

a half a five-a-side football pitch to

26:12

keep me and my son happy. And then I get

26:14

the England head coach of netball, Jess

26:16

Silby, round because she keeps omitting me

26:18

from the England squad. I don't

26:20

understand. I've asked the seven... Excuse

26:23

me.

26:23

I know you were the fastest woman in 2001. The fact I

26:25

can't catch a ball

26:25

very well, obviously. So I need to get Jess Silby

26:28

round, do a little one-on-one, showing

26:30

my skills, and then maybe slide into Super

26:32

John McGinn's DMs as a claret and blue and get him

26:34

round. So I've got lots of money if I'm doing this and

26:36

getting round for a little one-to-one with my son. But yeah,

26:38

I'd have those two special features.

26:40

No grass, just purely all weather for

26:42

myself and my son. It's interesting that both answers

26:44

so far have involved people as well. So you've got

26:46

people stationed at all times

26:49

in your facility. Ricky, who are you having in

26:52

your garden? You

26:54

know what? I've not gone for the garden. I've gone for something that would

26:56

be indoors just because I'd

26:58

want to be able to use it all year round anytime.

27:01

I'm a massive fan of Drizzy Drake, the rapper,

27:04

and I saw once on Instagram that he's got

27:06

a full-sized basketball court in

27:08

his house. So I'd do that.

27:10

I think it's an absolute flex. I'd have the

27:12

scoreboard that hangs down, send a court. I'd

27:15

have areas of the court as well, made into

27:17

like soft play areas where you could like

27:19

jump on a trampet and do like a slam dunk competition,

27:22

not hurt yourself. I'd also get the court branded

27:24

as well. Maybe like, call it the Bromby Brads or whatever.

27:27

But yeah, I reckon full-sized

27:30

indoor basketball court all year round.

27:32

Job done. Well, I've got to say, I absolutely love it. And

27:34

I've been waiting for an invite. We're all thinking, yeah,

27:36

that is good. I presume it drapes

27:38

there as well, is it? Drapes there. Yeah, 24 hours

27:40

a day. Half-life's

27:43

not moaning, Drake. Tom.

27:47

Oh, I think Ricky's got the right idea because Americans

27:50

just do these things better, don't they? Even if

27:52

you love rugby, no one's looking out of their backyards

27:54

in England thinking, you know what, let's put a scrum machine

27:56

out there. That's what this means. So

27:58

I'll have a batter. cage please

28:01

because I think they're loads of fun I do need to improve

28:03

my bunting and it's a side this

28:06

is as well there aren't very many batting cages in the United

28:08

Kingdom so you could open it up and let the people

28:10

play as well I

28:13

have a basketball court as well why not

28:15

it's the dream you can't just nick Ricky's arm it was

28:17

clear with the producer beforehand

28:22

I did actually I was very into basketball as a kid

28:24

and I did try and convince my mum that we should have a little

28:26

bit of the garden dedicated to it just a

28:28

lot of a garden with a bit of concrete on weirdly

28:30

didn't go for it yeah and think

28:32

how different these things are going to turn out actually hasn't it?

28:35

You've been the NBA? You'd be slumming it here with us! I

28:37

thought you would have made the probably badges! well

28:41

it's a tough one but I think I'm gonna have to give it to Ricky

28:44

aren't I? Oh come on! Come on Jimmy!

28:46

It just sounds like a soft play as well I

28:48

mean it's sensational okay

28:51

much amusement as Arsenal's

28:53

under 18's travel to the wrong season I found this

28:55

week for their away game at Bournemouth

28:57

arriving instead at Brighton but

29:00

what has been your own personal sporting

29:02

travel or geographical mishap

29:04

I'm gonna start with you Kath because you've got

29:06

one from today Oh my god!

29:09

You

29:09

shouldn't have got a tram here! Yeah outside

29:12

of today I'm gonna go back to my first ever Olympics was in Atlanta

29:14

in 1996

29:14

now if you know Atlanta

29:17

it's got a pressurised transport system

29:19

it's always busy but the main issue actually

29:21

was that not that it was a busy vibrant place

29:24

it's the fact that they employed 3,000 designated

29:26

bus drivers to take around spectators

29:29

journalists officials and most importantly

29:31

the athletes who had to compete at the Olympics to 11

29:34

different sites

29:36

most of them were from out of town we

29:38

got lost on a regular

29:40

basis it's a very straightforward one job it's

29:43

the Olympic village to the stadium and

29:45

we got lost not that we're nervous or stressed enough as

29:47

it is but literally we'd be on this bus

29:50

guys at the Olympic Games and we'd see signs

29:52

at Centennial Olympic Stadium and

29:54

we'd be going the opposite

29:54

way buses

29:57

broke down drivers were bursting

29:58

into tears

29:59

leaving the keys and the ignition and fleeing

30:02

the sea.

30:03

So to lighten

30:05

the mood, my fellow 21 year old

30:07

good friend who you know very well. I'm gonna say if

30:09

Ewan's on that bus, he's doing something. Took the

30:11

mic that was on the bus and started telling

30:13

inappropriate toilet jokes. Oh God.

30:16

And those who could speak British

30:17

found it hilarious but the other athletes who

30:19

weren't really getting it but we got lost. Athletes

30:21

were late 10 minutes before their competition. It

30:23

was an absolute disgrace. So yeah, getting lost

30:25

on your way to the Olympics isn't the way

30:27

forward. Gonna have to go

30:29

some way to beat that. Great. Josh.

30:32

On Saturday the 19th of November,

30:35

I think it might've been 2016, I

30:38

wanna watch Spurs v West Ham

30:41

with my dad. We were 2-0 down at the 88th minute. I

30:45

convinced him it'd be a good idea to

30:48

leave Harry Kane then comes and scores

30:50

in the 89th and 91st minute

30:52

to make it 3-2. And

30:56

yeah, why did I wanna leave so early? Cause I want to

30:59

get on more strictly. So

31:02

I let my dad down lastly. That's

31:05

the way. But look Josh, you like what you

31:07

like. There you go.

31:09

Ricky. So mine's also from 2016, my

31:12

example. I was lucky enough to be

31:14

invited to play at Soccer

31:17

Aid. Absolutely brilliant experience.

31:20

I got to hang out with the likes of my, you

31:22

know, the boys and heroes, Danny Murphy, Jamie

31:24

Carragher, Robbie Fowler. I played

31:26

on the same team. Danny Murphy's done well. Get in there I think. Come

31:29

on. Danny Murphy. Come on. Come

31:31

on. No, no, no, no, no, Danny Murphy. But

31:34

come on. He's had a great career, Rick. Come on, he had

31:36

a great career. No one has ever heard the sentence

31:38

of my hero, Danny Murphy before. And

31:42

I like Danny Murphy. But please. Mainly for

31:44

his pundit true, actually. I

31:46

like Michael Owen. Yeah, so basically,

31:48

obviously, one Ardenio was there as well. Let's play

31:50

with him. The list goes on. All

31:53

listed after Danny Murphy. But

31:57

this is what happens. This is what happens. So basically.

31:59

They're all staying in this hotel in Chelsea

32:02

Wharf. Every single time they

32:04

went out, they were having the most amazing time.

32:07

They had great stories. There was even one night when

32:09

Prince Harry turned up and had a good old jolly

32:11

with them. But the problem was I was

32:13

asked at the start of the experience, because it's

32:15

in London and you live in London, do you want to go

32:17

home every night or do you want to stay in the hotel? And

32:20

I fall asleep said, oh, I'll just go home every

32:22

night. So I miss the time

32:24

of my life. I miss meeting her,

32:27

meeting the Prince. Danny Murphy. Danny Murphy's

32:29

family.

32:29

I met Danny Murphy. But yeah,

32:32

what an absolute nightmare. Oh, no, don't

32:34

worry. I met Danny Murphy. Tom.

32:38

Third day of the World Cup last year in Qatar,

32:41

there were four games on the same day. And

32:43

now it's never been possible before to do four World

32:45

Cup games on the same day. And I noticed this a few months

32:47

out and thought, right, I'm going to do that. And it's going to be my piece for

32:49

the day. And I did so original two other

32:51

newspapers did it. And every

32:54

other TikToker knew that, by the way. Can

32:58

I write, though? Can I write an intro? Didn't

33:00

start well. 40 minutes of driving around in circles.

33:03

Roads a mixture of closed and unfinished. Dropped

33:06

us at a car park, the cabi, as I

33:08

couldn't see the stadium. So I was worried

33:10

about this, but made it in for the first game of the

33:12

day, which was Saudi Arabia versus

33:14

Argentina. Argentina were 1-0 up at halftime.

33:16

I thought, well, this is over. I've got to get across

33:18

town on the metro. And I made it to Tunisia

33:21

versus Denmark in really good time. I

33:23

did, unfortunately, miss the greatest World Cup shock

33:25

of all time. Yeah. I was going to say,

33:28

Tunisia, Denmark, weirdly, I don't remember the result of that one.

33:32

Good answers. Let's move on to

33:35

whatever question number this is. It was a

33:37

strange crazy night, said the manager

33:39

of Coleraine Oran Kearney, as his side beat Bally

33:41

Mina after being involved in a 44 penalty

33:44

shootout.

33:46

But what has been an even stranger

33:48

crazier night, Ricky?

33:52

Class your minds back to the F1 season back in 2005.

33:55

This was the era of Fernando Valonzo and

33:57

his dominance with the Renault team. I'm

34:00

talking about the United States Grand Prix in particular, it

34:02

was in Indianapolis. 20 cars,

34:04

going hell for lever to get points for their respective

34:06

constructives, except it wasn't 20

34:09

cars that finished, only 6 cars

34:12

from 3 teams finished the race.

34:13

Ferrari, Jordan and Menardi, 14 cars

34:16

out of the 20, completed the formation

34:19

lap, but retired to the pit lane

34:21

before the race had even started.

34:24

And all of those cars were using Michelin

34:26

tyres. The successful kings were on Bridgestone,

34:29

so surely one of the

34:31

craziest nights in motorsport of

34:34

all time. Okay, Cass. Everybody

34:36

must remember this of a certain

34:38

age, it was the Riddick Bow Evander

34:40

Holyfield Caesar Palace fight in 1993,

34:43

you know billed as a repeat or revenge fight. And

34:46

everybody remembers the parachute guy, the

34:48

fan man James Miller who landed on

34:50

the ropes caused absolute carnage,

34:52

a 21 minute delay, Bow's security team punched

34:54

him unconscious, Bow's pregnant wife

34:56

fainted at the side of the

34:59

ring, so everyone remembers that right, that

35:01

was a crazy crazy night. But

35:03

I didn't realise that the fan

35:05

man then did this again the following year

35:07

at the NFL match in the Bronco Raiders

35:09

playoff game, and then within a

35:11

matter of weeks came to England,

35:14

bizarrely and flew low, or

35:17

buzzed as they call it in their world, over

35:19

the Bolton Arsenal fourth round

35:22

FA Cup match at Berndon Park.

35:23

Oh he knows that, I pick him. There you

35:25

go, Caesar's Palace, NFL playoff,

35:28

Berndon Park in Bolton,

35:29

seven days

35:31

in prison and was deported. Bizarre,

35:36

bizarre. Josh.

35:38

More boxing related, well Buster Douglas

35:40

become the undisputed heavyweight champion in 1990 after

35:43

beating Mike Tyson in Japan, everyone

35:46

thought he'd be another quick knockout for Tyson,

35:48

no fight for a taken Tyson beyond the fifth

35:51

round since 1987, Buster

35:53

Douglas chances of lasting the fight were actually,

35:56

you know people giving him no chance really, let alone winning

36:01

he was so lightly regarded that

36:03

only one Vegas betting

36:05

parlor established odds for the fight making

36:07

Buster Douglas 42 to 1 on the phone

36:10

he ended up knocking Mike out in the 10th

36:12

round setting up a showdown with Evander

36:14

Holyfield

36:16

yeah and Tom strange

36:18

crazy night please Super Bowl 51 or

36:20

as the Americans and the Romans call it

36:22

Super Bowl LI this is

36:25

Pat Spoutins fouls 21 three up

36:28

at halftime took a 28 three

36:31

lead now the game is now referred to as shorthand

36:34

the 28 three which shows you quite

36:36

how mad it was what happened that the Patriots somehow

36:39

got back into it and somehow won 34 28 after

36:42

overtime so a crazy game but very familiar end

36:45

result Tom Brady going to Disneyland of

36:47

course now let's check in

36:49

with scores after all of

36:51

that oh it is

36:53

extremely tight this is great Josh

36:56

on 24 but then a three-way tie

36:58

at the top cat Tom and Ricky all

37:01

on 25 cap

37:03

genuinely just glass and

37:09

now cafe up on 26 okay

37:16

as we commemorate Remembrance Day

37:19

and uh i'll be honest i don't think this is in perfect

37:21

taste who is sports greatest soldier

37:24

Kath

37:25

she was a sergeant in

37:27

the British army but i'm answering it because of her

37:29

injury comebacks a true soldier in my

37:31

sport of athletics is Dame Kelly

37:33

Holmes

37:33

oh because my era we

37:36

had a few injury problems we were a little bit fragile

37:38

fellow Sydney medallists you know myself

37:40

Steve Bakley or gorgeous as he was known uh

37:43

Denise Lewis and Kelly all had injury problems

37:45

she had stress fractures torn Achilles glandular

37:47

fever calf tears she's even spoken

37:50

herself about depression and self-harm

37:52

but every time she was down she'd

37:54

come back and when we both won bronze in Sydney

37:57

at those Olympics in Malaykra and

37:59

we got up great

37:59

by the airline and flew home, we

38:02

sat with Ordiny Harrison who was obviously

38:04

contemplating

38:04

his future having won an Olympic gold right

38:07

and he went obviously professional the following

38:09

year but Kelly reminded me I've only trained

38:11

for six weeks Cass and I've won an Olympic

38:13

bronze. Wow. Roll on four years later,

38:16

boom, golden eight and the 1500 meters,

38:18

a proper proper soldier on on

38:20

the track and off incidentally.

38:21

Yeah and and a nice way for you to segue into

38:23

mentioning your bronze again. Tom

38:26

I've got a name for you who can buy military

38:28

service with first service and sometimes when

38:30

that didn't go to plan second service and that's

38:32

Arthur Ashe of course the man who gave his name

38:34

to the stadium of Flushing Meadows, the world's biggest

38:37

tennis only venue, he won three grand slams in his

38:39

career, the first of which was the US Open in 1968

38:41

at which time he was still

38:44

an amateur tennis player, he combined his tennis

38:46

with being a first lieutenant in the US Army and if you know

38:48

your 20th century history 1968

38:51

not a great

38:51

time to be involved in the US Army

38:53

so it makes his achievements even more remarkable.

38:56

Give me a soldier Ricky. WBA,

38:59

sorry WBA, WBO and IBF

39:01

heavy world champion of the world Alexander Usyk,

39:04

we have a different one but obviously Usyk revealed that

39:07

he found out the war had started through a text from his wife,

39:09

immediately jumped on a flight to Poland,

39:11

drove across the border back to his own country, said

39:14

that while he was driving to Kiev

39:17

there were thousands of cars fleeing

39:19

in the other direction, he was the only car

39:21

going in the direction that he was going. After

39:23

returning home and greeting his wife he only

39:26

slept a few hours before he heard bombs overhead,

39:28

he wasn't on the front line but he was part

39:30

of the territory's defence and I just think absolutely

39:33

amazing.

39:34

Yeah Josh. I have a great

39:36

answer by the way. Oh you

39:38

just waving the white flag? I can't

39:40

beat that. But

39:44

I've gone for the legendary Sir Henry Cooper,

39:46

he had two fights with

39:50

and even knocked down a young Muhammad Ali, he

39:52

lived through the second world war and

39:54

he'd done two years in the national service,

39:57

two years of national service in the British army by 1950.

39:59

He went on to hold the British Commonwealth

40:02

and European heavyweight titles and

40:04

he was like the epitome of an athlete and a gentleman

40:06

and for my grandparents who did serve in World

40:09

War II, Sir Henry Cooper

40:11

for them was a

40:13

real hero who they saw themselves

40:16

in.

40:16

A little nine wonder for you

40:19

then panel. James Madison replied to a post

40:21

that John Terry put up of himself celebrating

40:24

on his nap bar at home I think.

40:27

Chelsea's win against nine man Spurs on Monday

40:29

saying the former Blues captain must have had his eyes closed

40:32

when it was 11 v 11 and Spurs have won ill up. Terry

40:35

gave a nine word reply saying, matters

40:37

don't worry mate you'll get used to it. So I want

40:39

your nine word response to something

40:42

a sports person has said recently

40:44

Tom and I'm going to count them. Good.

40:47

To Michal Artetta who moans disgracefully after

40:50

Arsenal lost to Newcastle without the bar. Is this part of the nine

40:52

words? No. I

40:55

would like to say to Michal Artetta the best football saying ever

40:57

great and reassuring words to live by these

41:00

things even themselves out over a

41:02

whole season. That's good actually

41:04

and that is nine that's bang on. Yeah.

41:06

Give me a nine.

41:10

Tyson Fury said prior

41:12

to Francis and Ganoutheit the one he's just had

41:14

in Saudi Arabia which he won on obviously no

41:16

it was a controversial split decision. Fury

41:18

said I think he's a big fat

41:20

sausage and I'll knock him spark out. The

41:23

reply has to be you would have

41:26

if you had taken

41:26

him seriously. Yeah.

41:30

OK. OK. Yeah

41:33

fair enough. Ricky. After

41:35

that terrible performance at the recent Brazilian Grand

41:38

Prix, Mercedes boss Toto Wolf

41:40

said that car finished second last week and

41:42

the week before whatever we

41:44

did it was horrible the car doesn't deserve

41:46

to win. So my response to that would

41:48

be it wasn't only horrible Toto it was an

41:51

abomination. Oh but I like

41:53

Toto. I do like. I like Toto

41:55

as well to be fair. So sort it

41:56

out Toto. OK I like Toto. I like Toto

41:59

too much. No way

42:01

for you to know that to be honest. Josh. Well

42:04

I've gone for a bit of a nice one really. I've

42:07

just feeling a bit nice today really. Are

42:09

you a nice guy? Well I'm not. Chris

42:13

Camara was on Good Morning Britain

42:16

the other day talking about suffering from an expraxia

42:19

of speech. He got upset and it was hard to watch.

42:22

So I'd like to say to him, Cammy,

42:25

you're a national treasure, we all love you. Yes!

42:29

Hang on, huge improvement on your previous

42:31

answer there. Thank you very much. And also

42:34

loads of nice guy points. Yeah, that's

42:36

what I'm going for. Okay, we are

42:38

getting quite close to the end of the show. So any other

42:41

business then? Ricky, what do you want to get

42:43

off your chest? So I've mentioned it

42:45

slightly in the show earlier. I'm a massive

42:47

snorer. So

42:49

I did something recently

42:52

where I downloaded one of those apps

42:54

that kind of like track your snoring throughout the night and

42:57

it came back with a score that was, let's just

42:59

say, above average. And

43:02

it actually records your snoring as well and I've got

43:04

to say it sounds concerning. So

43:07

I feel like I'm moving into the realms now where I'm going to need one

43:09

of those Darth Vader masks to kind of wear

43:11

of an evening to sort my snoring

43:14

out. So I just want to know, has anyone got any tips

43:16

for my snoring? Well, look, can I just

43:18

have a quick blast of what it sounds like please? Erm...

43:22

Oh my God! That

43:25

is horrible. You know what? Sometimes I snore so

43:27

loud I wake myself up, I think I'm being burgled. It's that

43:29

bad. It's that bad. It's the snoring burglar

43:32

who's back. Cat.

43:37

This is

43:37

still bugging me. I'm going to keep it as brief as I possibly

43:39

can but I'm going to take you back to the Brilliant

43:41

Riser Cup. It was the final day. The USA were getting pummeled.

43:44

Europe needed four points to win and the US

43:46

player went to the team.

43:48

He swears and uses the F word, right?

43:51

Now

43:54

as a commentator myself of course you're always

43:56

told to apologise for bad language which you have to do for the viewers

43:58

that are offended.

43:59

than the children that may be watching.

44:02

But he added on the end of his comment, I apologise,

44:04

to there's no need

44:05

for it. I'm like, there's no need

44:08

for what? Says who? There

44:11

is a need for it. Of all the sports

44:13

in the world, I think you'll find the most swearing goes

44:15

down on an 18-hole golf course.

44:18

But it was his, why is there no need

44:20

for it? This is a guy's job, you put microphones by

44:22

sporting people, you're going to pick up bad language.

44:27

So I've always been a believer that we need

44:29

more diverse accents in certain professions,

44:32

you know, like politicians, people in corporate

44:34

world, they all sort of speak the same, don't they?

44:35

But that said, I went to the hospital the

44:38

other day and

44:39

I had a Cockney doctor. And

44:43

I've got to say, he scared me. He

44:45

scared me because

44:47

everything he said, everything

44:50

he said sounded too intimidating, right?

44:52

He went to me, we're going to keep

44:55

you in here overnight. You're

45:00

going to take your medicine. And

45:02

in the morning, you're going home in an ambulance. You

45:08

might have just bought your way to the final day. One

45:14

of the very few good things about the pandemic

45:16

is it forced pubs to sort out their outside

45:18

areas. Now, lots of them have kept the outdoor

45:21

heaters they bought in 2020, which is terrible news for the

45:23

environment, but great news for those of us who

45:25

like a pint in the cold with our coat on. I've

45:28

got an issue with how these areas are advertised. They

45:30

see this all the time on short walls outside pubs

45:32

now, they say, come in and see our secret garden.

45:37

It is not much of a secret if you're explicitly

45:39

telling people about it on a sign.

45:42

If you see that sign, it means one thing, there's some tables

45:44

throughout the back. Well,

45:48

do you know what, that's given me a bit of a problem scores wise,

45:51

because, hang

45:53

on, what are we going to get? Okay, fine.

45:57

Ricky, I mean, it's very slight indeed.

46:00

on 33 then Cap and Tom

46:02

both on 34 Josh on 35 so I think I just

46:05

arbitrarily decide

46:10

that I'm gonna put cap through

46:13

because I'm yeah no listen Tom I'll explain

46:15

it me and Cap and mate and

46:21

also shows really change she's

46:23

waving the photo around you cannot

46:25

compete with that and I wouldn't want you to either so amazingly

46:29

that means Josh and Cap go ahead

46:32

in defending the vegetable which stands

46:34

well I've just said what it stands for however

46:38

much it hurts if I say I I mean you

46:41

Josh you scored the most points you go

46:43

first you got 20 seconds on

46:46

this in future Miquel

46:48

Arteza should be allowed to make all the VAR

46:50

decisions on goals against Arsenal

46:54

yeah I definitely agree with

46:56

that I mean Arsenal fans have been through enough

46:58

punishment as it is what with a STV

47:01

you know so I feel like now's the time that

47:04

they should they should they

47:06

should be allowed to

47:09

you know for my

47:11

Michael Arteza for Miquel Arteza to make

47:13

the decisions

47:13

on that Josh

47:18

that was ghastly the least you could

47:20

have done is get his name right you

47:27

were sort of grubbing around for quite a while but it's gonna

47:29

be okay it's gonna be okay I think you called it Michael after

47:34

losing to Forrest Aston Villa should

47:36

sack Unai Emery and hire Wayne

47:38

Rooney

47:39

Oh 100% what's wrong with him man how

47:41

can he lose to Nottingham Forest and I'm not talking

47:43

about Wayne Rooney here I want Steven Gerrard

47:45

back what Stephen Gerrard did at Aston

47:48

Villa was so underrated

47:50

he set the foundation for Unai

47:53

Emery did you see him at Arsenal he's coming

47:55

off the back of Steven Gerrard so yes sack him

47:58

at the loss against Nottingham

47:59

Forest Wayne really can stay at Birmingham

48:01

City,

48:01

thank you. Well look, I mean it's a tough

48:03

one because you've just decided to slightly

48:06

change the defending and defensible cap. You

48:09

lost the ability to speak, John. So

48:11

I don't, I thought, I mean is it possible to not have

48:14

a, I might give it to Tom. I'm

48:16

gonna, you know what, I feel a bit guilty.

48:18

I am putting the photo away, Cap. I'm

48:21

gonna give it to Tom. And I don't know if anyone

48:24

has ever won without doing a defending and defensible

48:26

before. But I like it, congratulations.

48:30

You've thrown that away. Ricky, you had

48:32

a good show as well. Thanks, Fannell.

48:35

That was, I think, an entirely acceptable way to spend 55

48:37

minutes of my day. Next up, everything

48:39

you need to get you through your sporting day, it's

48:42

Five Live Sport.

48:50

You're listening to the podcast's extra fighting

48:53

talk. First up, I think, just a couple of

48:55

apologies, Kath and Josh,

48:57

for their abysmal defending and defensible.

49:00

Josh, as soon as we came off, you were

49:02

saying, oh really,

49:04

I can't do this. Yeah, we could hear. What went

49:06

wrong, mate? What went wrong? You know

49:09

what, I've won it twice. And I

49:11

told you boys, I said, listen, I don't know how

49:13

I've won it. Because that last section, I'm

49:15

so bad at. I'm so bad at.

49:17

And that, I was actually praying

49:19

that I didn't get to the final two. I hate

49:22

doing that bit. How do you deal with heckles?

49:24

My crowd works very,

49:27

believe it or not, I'm pretty quick. I'm

49:30

going to go with not, I think. I've

49:33

said this, I'm quick, but I don't know.

49:35

I just melt, you know? You absolutely

49:37

buckled. I'm a Spurs fan and we just

49:39

ran out of a bottle in it. So that's what I've heard. It

49:42

was a previous Spurs fan. Can

49:44

I defend my defending and defensible? Probably

49:46

not, no. But you said you've got a Sakoon

49:48

eye and you've got to bring him Wayne. And I know

49:50

why, because Wayne's gone to Birmingham and obviously

49:52

we hate blue noses. But I put an actual

49:55

twist on it and said no. I'm not

49:57

asking you for a twist, mate.

49:59

accent and his big family. I enjoyed it.

50:02

It doesn't matter whether you were there. Ricky

50:05

thought I went with it. That was full of in-depth information

50:08

and knowledge that answer was. I hammered for it.

50:11

Yes, rightly so. And the thing is that Josh,

50:13

he forced his way into that as well. Fantastic.

50:16

That also happened last time when I said I don't know

50:22

why Jermaine Genis is presenting The One Show. That's

50:25

what also got me into the final last

50:28

time. You've got another couple of points

50:30

mate. I'm just good at that last section.

50:35

The rest of you are terrible at it.

50:39

Kath is genuinely packing her bag in front

50:41

of me. It's amazing that you're that late and you're that

50:43

keen to get

50:43

off. I know. You've got to go. Of course

50:45

I have. I squeeze this

50:48

in. Very happily squeeze this in I must say.

50:51

Why you said it was such anger in your voice? Because

50:53

I might miss my train. In between school

50:56

runs and I really don't want to be that parent

50:58

who walks into a playground with the kids standing there

51:00

like they're homeless and lost

51:01

again. Again.

51:04

Again on the end. Yeah I mean we were waiting for

51:06

you for quite a long time. I do

51:08

apologise once again. Now my

51:09

tram was really slow. It was a chugger or as I call

51:11

it with my children it was a puff puff which means

51:14

no parent doesn't really go anywhere. He chugged along

51:16

today. Yeah I saw you puff puffing across the piazza.

51:18

That's because I'm busy next year. That's true.

51:22

Ricky if you get the call up for I'm a celebrity

51:24

you have to credit this show but it's a great

51:27

audition piece. I can't go on

51:29

that show. I know everyone's got their price

51:31

but yeah it's just not for

51:33

me man. I couldn't really. You needed

51:35

to build your basketball. Yeah that's true. It

51:37

would pay for it. If the

51:39

Bromley Badgers are going to go anywhere. You know

51:41

what I mean? That's the only bad cash. You'll

51:44

be in it within two days. Have you done Strictly?

51:48

I did the easy version of Strictly.

51:50

I did the Christmas special. Doesn't count. I feel

51:52

like Strictly would be more your bag.

51:56

Hang on I'm about to google Ricky Haywood Williams

51:58

Lycra. So

52:03

at the start of the show you said you wouldn't drop the

52:05

H, but I've given you a victory out of absolutely

52:07

nowhere there. Come on. Yeah, I

52:10

can't see it to be honest. I got

52:13

a couple of years ago when we were at the Olympics there the Telegraph

52:15

ran a story about how there were more toms in the GB

52:17

team than anyone else. And there were

52:20

three other toms on the reporting team out there

52:22

for the Telegraph without an H.

52:24

And they put a byline on it by the other

52:26

three toms and then in brackets not Tom Gibbs.

52:29

It's been bodied by the Telegraph with a new lie. Like

52:36

the other toms, not going to have anything to do with you. No,

52:39

he's so lardied up. We're

52:42

going to let Cath go, but what's everyone got on the agenda,

52:45

sports-wise this weekend? What are you watching? I'm

52:47

going to Queensport Rangers versus Bristol City

52:49

tomorrow, so that's thrilling. QPR,

52:52

my mum's team. Struggling to be fair. Not

52:55

great, but we've got a new manager who's

52:57

a hip Spanish fellow who's done well in Sweden.

53:00

So that makes a lot of sense after Gareth Haysworth.

53:02

He's appointed as assistant

53:04

this week as well. His name

53:06

genuinely is Javi Comme.

53:09

Javi Comme.

53:11

That is so smooth. Oh,

53:14

Bart,

53:17

when she really waves the photo in the face,

53:19

it's too much. Ricky,

53:21

what are you doing? Obviously, I've

53:24

been told by the boys on the podcast, Callum

53:26

Wilson and Michael Antonio, that I have to give

53:29

a special watch to their Darby's. Obviously,

53:31

it's West End versus Bournemouth. West

53:34

End versus Norton and Forest, sorry. Newcastle

53:36

versus Bournemouth, which are their respective teams

53:39

and former teams. I'll be giving

53:41

a look at those. Yeah,

53:43

I do love those boys. They obviously

53:45

don't know who I am, but you just say hello to them. Do

53:49

you know what, Rick? I remember like years

53:52

ago, we were both doing the red carpet

53:54

at Brixton Academy. And this

53:56

was my moment. I knew that Lewis Hamilton was going to be at this

53:58

event. Yeah. I think

54:01

you were there for Channel 4 TV. Yeah, it would have been, yeah.

54:03

And Lewis Hamilton comes down the carpet,

54:05

I've been waiting there for an hour and a half, and he walks

54:07

right by me and walks right up to you, and

54:10

does an interview for two minutes, and I just saw you punch

54:12

the air, and I never saw Lewis Hamilton ever again.

54:14

That's the magnetism. You

54:17

can't buy it, you can't teach it, Ricky. I

54:19

don't know what to tell you. Josh,

54:21

what you got? Do you know what? I

54:23

think this weekend, there'll just be a little bit of personal

54:25

sort of sport for me, doing a bit of gym, go down to

54:27

the boxing gym, you know, get on the bag,

54:30

go for a run, do that sort of thing,

54:33

you know? Make sure you're back inside for Strictly. Well,

54:35

exactly. You've filled the weekend for Strictly.

54:38

Yeah, since that day with my

54:40

dad, the reason I go down to boxing gym, it's

54:42

not because I like boxing, it's because I'm just trying to prove to my dad that

54:44

I'm a real man. But also, protect

54:46

yourself from your dad, because he's human still.

54:48

He does both of his things, Rick. Nice

54:52

one, fellas. Cheers. Cheers, mate. Thanks, Rick.

54:54

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