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Look out his only Films to be Buried

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With. Hello

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and welcome to Films to be Buried With. My

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name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor,

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a writer, a director, a New Dawn and

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I love film as Bill Murray

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and Ghostbusters two once said Happy

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New Year. Every week I invite

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a special guest diver. I tell them they've died, then

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I get them to discuss their life through the films

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that meant the most of them. Previous guests include

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Barry Jenkins, Sharon Stone,

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Kevin Smith and even Bret Sandals.

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But this week it's the brilliant writer,

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actor, comedian and ghost Danielle

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watch all of it. Have a nice time with your

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life. So Danielle

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Pinnock is a hilarious and brilliant

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actor. You can see her on Ghosts

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on TV. It's a remake of the BBC's

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Ghosts. We've never met before. We

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recorded this over zoom just before Christmas,

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and man was she funny. I think you're

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gonna love this one. So that is it for

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now. I very much hope you enjoy

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episode one hundred and eighty of

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Films to be Buried With. Hello,

2:04

and welcome to Films to be Buried With.

2:06

It is I Brett Goldstein, and I am joined

2:09

today by an actor,

2:11

a sketch comedian, a

2:13

instagrammer, an award

2:15

winner. I spent a lot of time in England.

2:18

I would like to hear about that. A

2:20

hero, a ghost, a black

2:23

lady, sketch shower, a

2:26

young Sheldon, a big bang theorist

2:29

and a superstar award

2:31

winner, genius, legend

2:34

and extraordinary

2:36

human. Please welcome to the show. It's

2:38

the wonderful, the only the amazing is

2:40

Daniel Pinock. That

2:45

was the best antro head

2:48

down I've ever had in my life. Shout

2:50

out to you, Brett. He shout out. Shout out to

2:52

Danielle. Thank you so much for doing this. We're

2:54

recording this. I don't know three

2:57

days before Christmas? Four days

3:01

is Christmas still happening? We

3:04

allowed it. Almercrome came

3:06

in like a full power ranger. I'm sure

3:09

not a clue. Well, this

3:11

is this is a Christmas treat for

3:13

me. I'm a big fan of yours.

3:15

You are currently about to finish

3:18

Ghosts Season one. Ghosts

3:22

has been a smash hit, is

3:24

that correct? It happened. It

3:27

has been an honestly grateful

3:29

to the UK version because we would not be here

3:31

without you all. Um

3:34

is such a magical experience. Honestly,

3:37

going to work fields like Comedy Olympics,

3:39

everybody's just Hilary

3:42

and Um to play this crazy

3:44

ghost Alberta. She is truly

3:46

a hot mess with a harder goal. She's a jazz

3:49

singer from the Prohibition era.

3:52

So I'm in fresh velvet all day

3:54

every day. It is fabulous.

3:58

That's so great. It looks like this many

4:00

of you. It looks like it's a lot of fun.

4:03

Like how much waiting around

4:05

is there? And how much is it just you

4:07

guys fucking about? I mean nine

4:10

us fucking about without question, like nine

4:13

percent just doing what we want improvising.

4:16

It is so

4:18

much fun, like we are having the time of our

4:20

lives. Truly. How many of the ghosts

4:22

did you know before you were casting ghosts?

4:25

None of them, actually I didn't know. But we all

4:27

kind of have these three degree of you

4:29

know, separations where it's like, oh I did

4:32

Second City, I did Second City, I was in

4:34

Chicago, you're in Chicago. So there

4:36

was a lot of that. Um. But honestly,

4:40

it's all love on set, which I love. But

4:42

these people I am like constantly breaking

4:44

character all of us, Like it's insane

4:49

forging so much fun. It's

4:51

so dope. How much how much

4:54

an average do you would you say

4:56

the improv that you've done is in

4:58

the finished product? Like percentageways

5:01

Listen, it varies because

5:04

sometimes the pro runners Joe

5:06

Porn and Joe Wiseman are like, no word

5:08

is bond brow. But

5:10

sometimes you'll see a couple of scenes where

5:12

you're like, oh, this whole ending is improvised,

5:15

so you know, sometimes the surprises a little

5:17

bit. Also,

5:20

you put a lot of spoilers in that last story.

5:22

You went to Second City. You're from Chicago,

5:26

well, originally from Jersey, but went to Second

5:28

City to do a lot of my training.

5:30

Yeah, I'm a Jersey girl throwing through Turnpike

5:33

mess. That's me. That's

5:38

Turnpike mess. I've never heard before, but

5:40

I love it and it will now be part of my daily vocabulary.

5:45

How long were you doing Second City? How was that?

5:47

I mean, that's like the dream place, right, I mean,

5:49

first of all, Chicago was honestly

5:52

felt like a post graduate school

5:54

because I went to grad school overseas in England

5:57

in Birmingham, which was an

5:59

experience. Yeah, we need to talk Okay,

6:01

let's talk about that first. Let's talk about you

6:03

going to Birmingham. Now, I'm from England.

6:06

If you're listening in your from England, listen

6:08

without you respect. I

6:11

didn't know the Birmingham is the destination

6:14

is listen. My first

6:16

day off the flight, I was like,

6:19

yes, cobble stones, yes,

6:21

fines And then there was a full

6:23

on knife fight in front of my roomed

6:26

board and I was like, okay, where's

6:28

the girl. I know that I know this very

6:30

well. I know the hood. I get it. And it

6:32

didn't have me laughing so much. Bright is my

6:34

mom. My whole family's Caribbeans. So

6:36

it's like my mom grew up like in the

6:39

thrust of Kingston, Jamaica, so nothing

6:41

scared her. She's like five foot

6:43

one and have the nerve to try to

6:45

get in the middle of this knife fight. And

6:47

she was like five loves everybody.

6:51

And I was like, you about to

6:53

die? On my first day's school, it

6:56

was it was a mess. Good

7:00

tell me, can you do a Birmingham acs

7:02

Head? No, not even close, not

7:05

even close. I wish I could, I

7:07

really do, because it's very very specific. It's

7:09

very specific. You know what I found

7:11

You tell me as an American. Americans,

7:13

and I say this with love, don't seem

7:16

to be able to tell the difference between any English accents.

7:18

I could do a Birmingham ax head and they'd still think

7:21

They'd just think it was the same. Is

7:23

that right? Literally, It's

7:25

it's quite true. The thing is I have a little bit

7:27

of edge because I am Caribbean. So

7:29

it's like I have a family that lived in London,

7:32

and I have you know, a lot of like when all

7:34

that stuff is happening in the sixties seventies,

7:36

someone to Canada, someone to Brooklyn, someone

7:39

to London. So I was just like, Okay, you hear

7:41

all the different variations, but

7:43

a lot of Americans do not know the difference. That's

7:46

that's facts. They are facts, really

7:49

fascinating. And so you've

7:51

been You've been in a lot of stuff.

7:53

You've been around it, well, you've you've certainly done

7:55

the grind and now you're on a hit show.

7:58

How is your life different now? If I'm ask

8:00

and how are you coping with it? You know? The

8:02

best thing is that I am out of

8:05

student loan debt. That

8:07

is the best thing

8:09

that is come out of this. Yes,

8:12

visibility, Yes, coins

8:15

shout out to Sally May, resting

8:18

her to peace gone and never

8:20

truly forgotten. That bitch is

8:22

rude, Okay,

8:25

but I am honestly, I

8:28

am so grateful for

8:30

this so helping me. So that's

8:33

I mean, like that's like the biggest thing for

8:35

me right now. I'm so hyped. That's oh,

8:37

hang on, we missed a bit. Second City. Hang on, we

8:39

also missed I mean Bemingham arrived.

8:41

There was a knife fight in the end. What was

8:43

your overall? I President of Birmingham would

8:46

recommend

8:48

listen because also I

8:50

kind of grew up in the hood. So I was like, Okay,

8:52

I guess I understand what this is.

8:55

It's the hood more with better accents,

8:59

like so, I'm like, I get

9:01

it. You know, down the street there's a little Jamaican restaurant.

9:04

I was like, Okay, this is cute. Cool.

9:06

I also met my husband there, who we've been together

9:09

for like literally he's

9:11

from Coventry

9:12

and that's where

9:15

that's where I was at. University was in the

9:18

Yeah,

9:20

speaking of lovely places to go in England, Yeah,

9:24

exactly exactly. But

9:26

yeah, No, I had the time in my life. I loved it. Program

9:29

was fantastic. It was a really really strong program

9:32

for acting. Randomly in the middle of program,

9:34

they scouted all these Americans who were like, what the

9:36

f is going on? But um, I

9:38

had the time of my life while I was there, and

9:41

then moved right to Chicago and that's where I ended

9:43

up. A second city and Hell were a Second

9:45

City who about two

9:47

and a half years and it was part

9:49

of a diversity program because they were

9:51

like, we need more black people here. So

9:54

NBC has this program called the Bob

9:56

Curry Fellowship, and a

9:59

lot of us were in that first

10:01

class, second class um

10:04

like Dwayne Perkins who was doing a lot of

10:06

writing on shows right now, Lisa Beasley

10:08

like um. Actually Nicole Black, she

10:10

wasn't in that year, but she was

10:12

around during that time when they started

10:14

that program. And NBC fully

10:17

funds all these all these people

10:19

of color to take free classes

10:21

and to perform um and that

10:23

was ultimately what got me started in improv

10:26

and what ultimately got me moving to

10:28

Los Angeles. So I shout

10:30

out to Second City, you

10:33

know, shout out to them, shout out to you

10:35

know, the showcase that got me to where I need to

10:37

be. But I'm so thankful for

10:39

all the comedians that I met while I was there, because

10:41

Chicago is a very, very um

10:43

special place. I would say probably has some of the most

10:45

talented performers in the world.

10:47

So I'm lucky that I was like in the mix during

10:50

that time of what

10:53

was that the first time you went into comedy before

10:55

that had you been doing heavy dramas hit Oh God,

10:57

when I tell you we're in I was. I had this career

11:00

for a very long time where I was just trying to be the next Anna

11:02

Deavere Smith. I don't know where that came

11:05

from, but I was like, I'm a serious theater

11:07

actor. I want the Shakespeare's, I want

11:09

the Greek tragedies. I want to

11:11

go out into the field and I want to interview

11:14

and I want to bring the stories to the stage.

11:16

Like That's how I met Desiree Birch. We were

11:18

both khop

11:22

We were workshop in San

11:24

Francisco that was so intense and so

11:26

incredible. Were um Anna hand

11:29

picked us um And I think after that

11:31

workshop, I was like, I think I kind of want to go into comedy.

11:37

Yeah. Start was

11:39

documentary theater from the beginning, from when

11:41

I was eighteen years old, and I was like, interview

11:44

people in my communities and do those stories

11:46

on stage and like one person shows and

11:49

all of that, and that's ultimately what led me to the

11:51

Second City. I had a show called Body

11:53

Courage, which talked about like growing up Jamaican

11:55

American with my crazy ass family

11:57

and my amazing family. But what was

12:00

like being a private school and all white private like

12:02

school and all the differences

12:04

and growing up extremely Christian

12:07

and all this stuff. Um, but it

12:09

was Shell that ultimately brought me to La and

12:11

Second City founded, and so

12:13

thankful for those roots. But I had

12:15

to lay those roots to rest. Yeah.

12:18

I think

12:20

most comedians do, like you dream

12:23

of going like, yeah, you should do a really heavy drama, be

12:26

really good, and then you think about actually making

12:28

it and being like, i'd be depressing

12:30

six months of that. No, there's

12:32

no way I can't do any Eugene

12:35

O'Neill for eight months. I'm done. I don't want to tour

12:37

it. Don't take me to on the Edinburgh French

12:39

Festival. I'm good, I'm

12:41

good. I don't

12:44

want it. Keep it, Yeah,

12:46

you can have it. Fascinating. Oh

12:49

shit, Danielle, Oh

12:52

no, fuck, I

12:54

am h No, I've

12:56

forgotten to tell you something. Oh

12:59

shit. I made a note of it,

13:01

but i'd turned the page over when so

13:03

I didn't see it. And I'm like, going back over this page,

13:05

I was like, what was I meant to tell her? And I've

13:08

just seen it and I'm like, oh no, that's quite

13:10

heavy. I probably probably should

13:12

have said this up front. Ready,

13:15

Yeah, I will just say it. We'll I

13:17

guess we'll deal with it afterwards. I'll just

13:19

say you you died. You're dead

13:22

dead. You're dead dead

13:25

dead, You're dead dead.

13:28

Who's singing Amazing Grace? Your

13:30

choice? You

13:33

get to choose Prince. Okay,

13:35

Prince is singing amazing Grace. Nice choice.

13:37

I feel like it. Also, it will be

13:40

the longest version of Amazing Grace ever, Dad,

13:44

we will have Yeah,

13:46

it will have a twenty five minute guitar, so

13:50

it will be the solo will be so long that at

13:52

some point people will forget what the song is. It'd

13:54

be like, what were we doing? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeahdanielle's

13:56

dead, so we did amazing Grace? How

13:59

did you die? Without

14:02

question? Shark attack? Shark

14:04

attack? What question?

14:09

I know. I'm

14:12

in the water all the time. I'm a

14:14

water baby. Thrown through me too,

14:16

I love it. Tell me what happened?

14:18

You're a water baby. You spent too much time in the water.

14:21

You got cocky. The sharks were like,

14:23

I think she's going to be sticking around

14:25

for a while, and then yeah, let's have

14:27

some jerk chicken boom smash barm. Where

14:33

were you in which in which ocean were

14:35

you? I would have to say probably

14:37

Malibu. Okay, you're in Malibu.

14:40

You're swimming about is it day or night? It's

14:43

July night, so the water is still warm?

14:45

Okay, lovely in the warm

14:47

water, be with people on your own, just

14:50

having a swim. I could I could be

14:52

on a little boat with family. Yeah.

14:56

Wow, And they have to watch this, so you're

14:58

there any warning or the shark? Is there any like? Do you

15:00

hear music before? Oh?

15:03

Without without question, it's definitely

15:05

like Beanie Man, Like it's like four

15:08

on. It's

15:10

full on reggae classics. We're not

15:12

doing jobs. We're gonna keep to the color. It's

15:14

gonna Beanie Man, without question. Maybe Sean

15:16

Paul too. Okay, so

15:20

you hear Shanny po and suddenly

15:23

grabbed suddenly by a shot snack.

15:26

I'm betting in two or how long

15:28

does it take? I think it takes a bit

15:30

of a time, because you know, I'm a big girl. It's it's

15:32

gonna take a minute. It's not gonna be a one and done

15:35

right right, It's gonna be a moment. You

15:37

know, they gotta kind of oh what's this?

15:39

Oh jos? Okay, cool?

15:42

Hi, okay, Yeah,

15:44

it's gonna be It's gonna be a minute.

15:49

It's literally buffy at any kind of buffet,

15:51

old country buffet, they're gonna enjoy it perfectly.

15:54

Season I like that the sound

15:56

you make getting attacked by shark.

15:58

Let's let's not it's not self

16:01

sat This is a shock. That's attack. You make

16:03

the same noise you might make if a

16:05

great pumped air up your

16:07

skirt. Hey,

16:10

hey, oh my friend,

16:14

that's it wiped out.

16:17

That's it. It's quite a slow death. It takes a

16:19

while, a lot of chewing, great pain.

16:21

And I mean, it's not an idea. And your family

16:24

just watching, yeah, oh

16:26

my god. And nobody can

16:27

Nobody in my family can swim,

16:30

So they really can't say me like my mom is just

16:32

going to sit there watching shook

16:35

screaming or are they just screaming

16:38

probably praying like that's

16:40

going to do anything at that point, but you know they could

16:42

try. But on, okay,

16:44

so we're a lot of screaming. And are

16:47

you as as it takes its

16:49

time? Are you shouting like I

16:51

leave everything to you? Or you

16:53

know I'm going to shout?

16:56

Is shock? My retirement

16:59

fun is under New York

17:01

Life

17:04

okay, okay, well now

17:06

everyone listening to this also

17:09

knows that

17:11

that's wonderful. So you've

17:13

been eating quite slightly by one

17:15

shock or with that more than money? Was it

17:17

a fading frenzy? I think it's TU think it's I

17:19

think it's like, um, like a set of twins. So

17:21

one of them picking you up, chucking you in the air, other one's

17:23

catching you. Yeah.

17:25

Do you worry about death every

17:28

single day? Cheers every

17:31

single day? Every

17:34

like literally we got this power range

17:36

variant that just popped in. I was like, yeah,

17:38

this willing testament, let's

17:41

do it. I think my biggest

17:43

fear with death is not preparing

17:45

my family because I think a lot of times

17:48

um with black families, specifically Caribbean

17:51

families. In my family specifically,

17:54

it would be last minute stuff happening,

17:56

and it's like, oh God, we gotta

17:58

get a card fan yo and

18:01

your life. Wait, where

18:03

is the saving? And then it's like, oh,

18:05

I can gr my money

18:07

underneath her mattress? What

18:11

And then you looking through shoes and

18:13

then it's like cammy are coming to the house

18:15

to see who could take the jewelry,

18:17

who could take the call and the perfume

18:20

and you're like, but y'all, we have to plan,

18:23

we have to plan. It's a mess.

18:25

It's a mess, and I think the planning is

18:28

the thing that stresses me the most out about

18:30

death, but also just the dying, Like what

18:32

is it about to be? Like? Am I about to close my eyes?

18:35

And then all of a sudden, I see Harriet's coming,

18:37

Like what is it really about to be? What

18:39

do you think? What have you come up with? Is it Harriet?

18:42

I hope not, because I'm afraid of her. Yeah, Like

18:44

I'm ruining the bread of Harriet coming, Like that's a

18:46

boss ass bitch that led all

18:48

these people to freedom. Like

18:51

I don't want her to be the first person

18:53

I see, Like if we had a death

18:55

dinner, like I would like her to be at my

18:57

table, But I don't know if that's the first

18:59

person. Maybe

19:01

like Luther very growth, that would

19:03

be lovely. He'd welcome you in with a little

19:06

dancing. I feel like, yeah, he'd ask you across

19:08

the threshold quite nicely, with a little

19:10

like Walts maneuver, do you know what I mean? But

19:13

then absolutely, what is it you think? Do you

19:15

think Harriet Tubbin is going to tell you off? Is

19:17

that your fear. She's so disappointed

19:19

in me right with

19:21

that, like every all my like, I just

19:24

will stress out trying to bring

19:27

some shop ride groceries up

19:29

the stairs. She's gonna curse

19:31

me out. She's like, are you serious? You're

19:33

really stressed off of that when I brought

19:35

slaves a probably

19:37

finish line. Yo, she may

19:39

curse me out for having a white husband, you

19:42

know what I mean? Oh that

19:44

Harrie is gonna come for me and

19:46

I and I prepare for it. I just don't

19:48

want her to be the first person. I see. You want

19:50

to be eased in a little bit. You want to like couple of

19:52

practice brands, Luthor, you want

19:55

you want to settle in Luther Prince.

19:57

And then my Angelou my

19:59

Ange. Well, look I think my angelus

20:02

the end, the last person, because I think,

20:04

Harriet, how it's going to be mean to you? And then Maya

20:06

will make you feel better. I mean

20:08

we hope. Yeah, Maya will be like Maya

20:11

will probably say to you, yes, Harriet's

20:14

right, However I forgive

20:16

you Harriet. Listen, don't get me wrong,

20:18

says Maya. Harriet made it

20:21

is a very good part. Are you going to do

20:23

the Maya voice? Because if you're gonna do, may you

20:25

got this is my bringing

20:28

you in. Hello, Bret,

20:30

How are you welcome

20:33

to the other place? How

20:35

are you? Bret? Thank you? Maya. I

20:38

just wanted to check in. I'm currently

20:40

playing Danielle Pinock in this

20:42

in this act out and then Maya,

20:45

I just met Harriet Tubman and

20:48

she was so mean. She

20:50

was so mean to me. She was angry

20:52

about my husband. She was angry about the way I do

20:54

shopping. She was angry about my capitalist

20:57

attitude. And she

21:00

she said I was lazy. And I think I worked very

21:02

hard, but she said I was lazy.

21:04

What do I do? Mayor? I want her to like me. Tell

21:07

her she's a phenomenal woman,

21:10

living phenomenally. I'm

21:12

sorry about the shot. That's

21:16

it, Maya,

21:18

without question, may be at

21:20

the end. She's got to be the end. Whatever happens,

21:22

Maya is going to make it okay. Now, one

21:24

other questions about Harriet Tubman. You said

21:26

you want her on your table at death

21:29

dinner? Where do you want her

21:31

though you're putting her next to you, You're putting her

21:33

like no, there's there's there's

21:35

absolutely no way that Harry Tuman

21:37

can be nice to me. Where is she? Like, she's

21:40

headed the table right, how big is the table? I'm

21:42

kind of like, I'm next to

21:45

maybe Abraham Lincoln, so

21:48

I can curse him out and then we

21:50

can have that kind of thing between us. Okay, okay,

21:52

So well, what you're saying is Harriet's having

21:54

to go at you, and you throw Abraham

21:56

Lincoln under the bus. You go me, what

21:59

about him? Yeah, we

22:01

can find a tag team. You're

22:03

like, he said he did a thing

22:05

and then he did nothing happened for years, and

22:08

Harry will be like, yeah, yeah, I hear you, but

22:10

you also complained about the shopping, and

22:16

then I'm just gonna apologize and cry at her feet.

22:18

What else is there to do? By Harriet is personally

22:20

out, there's nothing else to do. This is why

22:22

I think, as much as it's going to be a difficult dinner,

22:25

you might want Harriet next to you rather at the end

22:27

of the table, because she's going to shout across the table

22:29

at you, there by bringing more attention

22:31

to your crimes. Whereas if she's next to

22:33

you, you can try and keep it quiet, like

22:36

take it but quiet, you know what I mean, Like, Harriet,

22:38

keep your voice down, I hear what you're saying. Actually,

22:40

don't say that, Jesus, don't say keep your voice down to

22:42

Harriet's happening. No, No, there's no way. There's

22:44

no way, because then the like spirit of Opera,

22:47

who's still living. Yeah, well then my

22:49

soul and then I'm going to the next place. See,

22:51

I need to stay in the dinner. I need to stay at the dinner.

22:54

Yeah, you need to survive the dinner. If

22:56

there's if we can add anyone else to the table to help

22:58

you out, because I ad it. Harriet,

23:01

Harriet's not going to be happy

23:06

Whitney Houston when

23:09

he can sing us down, why can

23:11

you? So you have Harriet on this side,

23:13

Whinney on the other. When Harriet's getting

23:15

too much, you nudge Whitney. Whinney

23:18

burst into songs, things about the greatest love of

23:20

all. And when you when you when she's singing

23:22

greatest love of all and it's about

23:24

the love I found in me, you

23:26

start switching it to Harriet, and you start pointing at Harriet,

23:28

and you go, No, the greatest love of all is the love

23:31

I have for you, Harriet. That's the greatest

23:33

love of all because of everything you did.

23:36

It's all about you, Harriet. And Harriet's like, okay,

23:38

okay, I like hearing this. Okay,

23:40

and she starts, you know, that's all she

23:42

Look, we've always said it all, Harriet

23:45

Tablan once is to

23:47

be told she did a good job. Right. Yeah,

23:50

She's like anyone. She just wants

23:52

to be loved, all right, Harriet.

23:55

And she's built up this this attitude

23:57

of being mean to you because she hasn't

23:59

felt acknowledged

24:01

enough. And so if you sit with Harriet

24:03

and say, look, Harriet, I know I messed

24:05

up, but I love you and

24:08

you're amazing and what you did is amazing,

24:10

and I will I worship you, I

24:12

think she might calm

24:15

down a bit. You know, we're gonna hurry

24:17

on it. Yeah,

24:20

if I know, Harriet, And yeah,

24:25

and does she guessed her? I'm ted least so I can't

24:27

remember she's

24:31

in the upcoming season three spoilers

24:36

back, Come on, t

24:39

origin story. You

24:42

knew Harriet Temper, you'll

24:49

want to be haunted tonight. I get.

24:51

But that's how I would die. That's how it and those

24:53

are the people I would want it my death for dinner. And

24:56

so you think there's a heaven with with dinners and Harriet

24:59

taban at the door and stuff. I don't know

25:01

if it's I don't know what it is, you

25:03

know, I think that's the thing. Like, I grew up in a very

25:07

interesting religious situation

25:10

in the fact that I was at church all weekend.

25:13

My mom and my grandmother were two

25:15

different kinds of Christian. So

25:18

there's this one part of Christian like

25:20

this denomination of Christianity

25:23

called Seven day Adventist.

25:25

Okay, so it's basically Christians

25:28

that still follow Jewish principles

25:31

and most of the people in that denomination are Caribbean

25:33

people. Oh, Friday,

25:36

Saturday's lights out. We

25:38

were vegetarian like

25:41

fun up Sunday like all of that stuff.

25:44

And then my mom was a Sunday

25:47

you know, Pentecostal hill that

25:49

kind of chrision. So like I was in church

25:51

like with my grandmother on Friday and Saturdays,

25:53

and then with my mom on Sundays, and like when

25:56

I was in college, Sorry, was your mom know

25:58

your grandma's doing? Yes?

26:01

And we all were in the same house together. I

26:03

was raised by both. So how did

26:05

they end up different different different

26:07

types of Christians? Because my

26:09

mom, literally her plot

26:12

in life is to rebel against my grandmother

26:15

literally that's just like her main

26:20

Well she was like, oh, you want to be doing

26:22

this stuff. Well I am,

26:24

I'm gonna be as

26:30

I'm moving it. Yeah.

26:33

So then I was like in church

26:35

all weekend because of the so like

26:37

I think when I was in college, I was like, I need to take a

26:39

break from church. I'm like, I'm exhausted. Like I didn't

26:41

know really pally what to believe.

26:44

And I think I do believe in

26:46

God. I just don't

26:49

believe in all of the things that were happening.

26:51

Because if I do believe in all the things in the Bible, like

26:53

I would just be out here getting stone for

26:55

free, you know what I mean. Like it's just too much

26:58

going on. The Bible is like Real

27:00

Housewives of the Disciples, and

27:02

it's just so much going on in there. Um.

27:05

But I do believe in spirituality.

27:07

I do believe that, you know, we'll

27:09

all end up somewhere hopefully.

27:12

But um, my dream

27:14

is that the first thing is like

27:16

a dinner, like a gallow that's

27:18

my dream. You you

27:21

really need to pitch the real house I said

27:23

the Disciples, because that is that

27:26

is going to be huge. And I actually I almost

27:28

feel like we should edit this bit out so no one hears

27:30

it, so you can probably pitch. I

27:32

would buy that show. Yeah,

27:35

I'll work on it. Okay, I'll work on

27:37

a bread both in the

27:39

room, both in the room, no

27:41

pitch document, no proof lead,

27:46

the dull got it on. Here we go, Here we

27:48

go. So

27:51

well, I've got news for you. There is a heaven and

27:54

it is great. And Harry, tell me,

27:57

is it the door? I'm afraid, but

28:00

I've had a word with her and I've said, look, give

28:02

her a chance. I know, I know she's on your

28:04

hit list, but give her a chance. Right,

28:06

she's done. I said, Look, she's done some

28:08

things. She's made a lot of people happy, to be

28:10

fair, you know what I mean. She was like, oh, I don't know.

28:13

And I said, just watch her show real. I put

28:15

on your show real and she was like Harry

28:18

Tubman started laughing, like quite angrily

28:21

laughing, like, oh nah, she got me, you know what I mean. Anyway,

28:24

you come in. Everyone's delighted to see you, even

28:26

Harriet. By this point, she's I've converted

28:28

her. She's a massive fan and Luther

28:31

Prince Whitney the spirit of

28:33

Hope. But that's not dead yet. They all want to know about

28:35

your life. Oh, but it's filled

28:38

with your favorite thing. By the way, Heaven, what's your favorite thing?

28:40

Oh, my god, is

28:43

it water? Water without person?

28:45

Beaches? That's my favorite thing in all right? Well, heaven

28:47

is a beach. It's a beach.

28:50

And the seats are water

28:52

seats, like the sort

28:54

of seats that King tried to and sat on in a Little

28:57

Mermaid, you know what I mean, Just to sort

28:59

of way

29:01

keeps going. You're set on it like that, And

29:05

there's screenings. It's so great anyway.

29:07

Everyone wants to talk about Whitney,

29:09

Lutha Prince, all of them,

29:11

even Abe Lincoln. They want to talk about your life,

29:14

but they won't to talk about your life through film.

29:16

And the first thing they ask is, what is the first

29:18

film you remember seeing? Danielle

29:20

Pinnock, First Wives Club, that's

29:22

the first film you So the first

29:25

It was the first film that I

29:27

saw because my

29:29

grandmother didn't have TV in the house,

29:31

so I

29:35

had a lot of catching up to do later in my adulthood.

29:38

Like I kind of low key felt like I grew up slightly

29:40

morning because my

29:43

first film with my mom, when she was

29:45

going through her divorce with my dad, she was

29:47

like on this like, I'm gonna see these badass films

29:49

with these badass women. And it was First Wives Club

29:51

in the theaters. I'll never forget it. And

29:55

during like any scene with cussing,

29:57

she would like put her hands over a I

30:00

was like, this movie is dark. Yes, shout

30:02

out to all of these women, love them, Yes,

30:05

bed middler, are you getting it? Um?

30:08

How old? How old were you? Oh? God?

30:10

When the First Watch Club come out? Like ninety

30:13

six six? Yes? Eight?

30:15

So I was born at eighty eight nine. I

30:18

don't know, yeah six seven eight? Yeah?

30:21

Come on? Are you an only child?

30:24

I grew up at a child. I do have a half sister,

30:27

but I grew up as an only child until I was like twenty

30:29

in So it's just you and your mum at the cinema

30:31

where and this was in Jersey? This

30:33

was in Jersey, PA. That's

30:36

so nice? Did you and so you liked the women

30:38

in it? Well? Also, if you've never seen a fucking TV,

30:41

were you like what happen? Literally?

30:44

Like my brain face,

30:48

I was like, these people are so

30:50

big. This

30:53

move in the popcorn like honestly, it

30:55

just felt like the amish on a

30:57

rum springer. Like I was like what

31:00

the hell is happening? It

31:02

was fantastic, And then we just kept on going

31:05

to films we like Saw Stella,

31:07

Goot Rule Back and Waiting to Exhale and

31:09

all these things, the Disney

31:11

Classics t I was like, like, it

31:13

was just it was fantastic. It was fantastic,

31:16

really nice. I like that a lot. What

31:19

is the film that made you cry the most?

31:21

Are you a crier? Do you cry? Not?

31:24

Usually? Not usually? But

31:26

the film that Why am I not a crier? Why?

31:30

Well, you know, I grew up in a

31:32

in a family of very strong women, Like I

31:35

didn't see my grandmother cry until she

31:37

was like seventy one. Wow,

31:40

I going up with her my whole life. And

31:42

my mom I think she cried once

31:44

and that was at my dad's trin I haven't seen a glass,

31:48

So I just kind of in that family

31:50

words like we don't really express

31:53

emotions. How we express emotions

31:55

is by cooking and dancing, like

31:59

giving hers and family functions,

32:02

but like you weren't really

32:04

like it wasn't until I met my husband,

32:06

who was a fool on his sign that he's a

32:08

cancer Jesus crime. And

32:11

that's when I was like, oh, wow, maybe I should be

32:13

emoting. I

32:16

don't know your way of like, instead of having

32:18

emotions, you dance and cooking and

32:20

have fun. Sounds so much better than sitting

32:23

around crying all day. I

32:26

think you've got it right. Literally, I

32:28

would say, don't get into the crane. No, but

32:30

I do have to tell you

32:33

the film that got me the

32:35

junior year of high school. We

32:37

saw Life is Beautiful still

32:40

to this day, the film

32:42

that it just takes me

32:45

out. It was probably one of the

32:47

most beautiful films I've ever seen

32:50

in my life. Extraordinarily

32:52

heartbreaking, and I was in

32:54

there bawling, like I lost

32:56

my firstborn child as a junior

32:58

in high school and I was like what

33:03

in the middle of my biology class, and my

33:06

teachers like, yare you are lying? Like what's

33:08

going on? I'm like, and

33:12

the whole thing is subtil and I'm like, why

33:14

y'all I'm sick. Are

33:18

you not reading it? Yeah?

33:21

I was like, do you need to borrow my glasses?

33:24

Oh? This is the moment. Love

33:28

that film. It's so it's so heartbreaking.

33:31

Yeah, it's so good. It's so good. Thought.

33:34

Okay, I like that answer. I like that film.

33:37

I like that film very much. I haven't

33:39

seen it in years, but I loved it. I'm

33:41

sure it holds up. Does it hold up? You ever seen it

33:43

again? Yeah? It's still to

33:46

this day, still to this day, still

33:48

to this day. What about being scared? What's

33:51

the film that scared you the most? Do you like

33:53

being scared? Hayted ter

33:55

fine hated. There's two films

33:58

actually, okay. The

34:00

first one was no,

34:11

this is so stupid. The

34:14

first one was Precious

34:19

Yo, yo, and woking the

34:21

Ring. It wasn't pared o relactivity,

34:26

get this shit out of me because

34:29

it was like, yo, is

34:31

this what happens if you keep beating fat?

34:34

Like? What the is

34:36

this one? I had to look forward to like

34:40

a box of chicken in the middle of the

34:42

hood, Like what is

34:44

this movie? Yo?

34:47

That movie scared this shit

34:49

out? And Monique

34:51

shot up together look before.

34:54

But I will never forget absolutely

34:57

absolutely Mariah

35:01

carry but that goddamn mustache and

35:04

social services, Like it really

35:07

took me out, Bratt, It

35:09

took me out terrified. The

35:12

first time Precious has come up is the

35:14

scariest film of all time. But

35:16

but I guess it's about time. It frightening

35:21

it like it's lucky.

35:24

Can you give us a break like, is this is

35:26

this what I had to look forward to? This

35:28

woman had and this little um

35:30

bandanna she had on the whole film like

35:33

Godly Gabris in the bay, shout out to her.

35:35

She killed it. Terrified, still

35:38

can't even walk it, terrified, terrified.

35:41

What was your other choice? The

35:45

other choice was the Jackson's

35:48

and American Dream about Michael

35:50

Jackson. The basket was in it.

35:52

I'll tell you. I'm gonna tell you the scene

35:54

that got me though, Brett. It's the

35:57

Pepsi It's the Pepsicola scene

35:59

when he fell down all them steps

36:01

and those fireworks call him. I still,

36:04

to this day am afraid of

36:06

fireworks because of that scene, because I

36:08

was like, Wow, this man went from black

36:10

to white in one scene. And I don't know

36:12

what happened. In my young minds,

36:15

I didn't know nothing about no Vi the lie Go. I

36:17

just knew that the fireworks turned this man

36:19

into a wire, and

36:24

that for me was

36:26

a horror show. How did Michael

36:29

Jackson turned caucasion

36:32

off of pepsi? Call of fireworks?

36:35

I'm good, I haven't had pepsis what

36:39

happens? He gets hit in the face by fireworks

36:41

from PEPs. Oh, he's doing

36:43

this dance down the steps and then falls

36:46

down all the steps and then literally

36:48

all these fireworks from the show catch

36:51

him on fire, his whole hair on fire,

36:53

because you know he had a prop I

36:58

did this true story. Oh

37:00

my god. Yes. And then they were like, that's

37:02

when he went white, that's when he ended up like

37:04

being light skinned. And I'm like, na, they

37:07

said it was the fireworks, but then they were like, it's

37:09

the bidiligo. And I say, you know what, because y'all

37:11

can't tell the difference. I don't want no

37:13

ship with fireworks every again. I

37:16

don't. Still to this day, Fourth of July, I'm

37:18

a wreck terrified. I'm

37:20

like, can you imagine, like one day walking

37:22

out and then Fourth of July, boom, a little bit of firework

37:24

comes on you. And then next thing you know, I

37:26

turn up looking like Kathy fucking Bates,

37:29

like, are you kidding me? Now?

37:33

I'm terrified, ship

37:37

terrified. Yeah, you

37:39

guys, stay indoors. It's not safe out there. It's

37:42

not safe out here. No, stay indoors.

37:44

That's it what I

37:47

mean. Fantastic answers. What is the film

37:49

that people don't like? People don't like it?

37:52

It's not critically exclaimed, but you love it. You

37:54

don't care what anyone says. Along

37:56

Cam Paulo, Right, Pip, still

38:02

honestly understanding Kevin Hart.

38:04

He was a little, a little man with the fact.

38:07

Loved that film. I

38:09

love that film so much. Can

38:12

you please just describe Kevin in that film again?

38:14

He had he

38:17

had the bull. Shout

38:20

out to Kevin Hart. Listen, I'll

38:22

start somewhere. We all start holding a bull. Yeah,

38:25

okay, he said, shot up to him because

38:27

he killed it and he was giving tactics. Even

38:29

with that little bull. We had one. Okay,

38:32

No, that yo,

38:36

Philip, to be honest, and I hate saying this because

38:38

I know Philip s more howman was into so many other

38:40

films. For me, it was

38:42

along Polly, because that

38:45

man is an absolute

38:49

legend. Yeah, absolute legendary.

38:51

Yeah. The way he squeezed that pizza off

38:53

the thing and then aid it, The way

38:55

he was in that damn basketball gym

38:58

with those men, the way he was

39:01

in the office room. It's kind of like the comedic

39:04

choices that he made to inspire

39:07

me beyond love the movie. Love it. That's

39:09

really good. He really did. He

39:12

really could do. He could do it o Coldn't he truly?

39:15

What's a film that you used

39:17

to love, you loved it, you've seen

39:19

it recently, you don't love it anymore.

39:21

Titanic go on. You'd

39:24

be amazed, Danielle, how often Titanic

39:26

comes up on this show. It amazes me. It's

39:29

on a low people's lists. Talk to

39:31

me, Titanic. She tried it because

39:33

she knew there was some space on that driftwood

39:35

at the end. There was space. And

39:38

I don't know who that who that goes to, whether

39:40

it's props, if they made the error,

39:43

you know, they should have put that driftwood

39:45

a little bit more so then as an audience member,

39:48

we'd be like, damn, there really no space.

39:50

There was space on the driftwood,

39:53

and all she had to do was climb

39:55

his ass up. Yeah, saved

39:58

his life. That's it. I do.

40:00

You know what I think. I've just thought this for the first time. You

40:02

ever seen dirty dancing. You seen so

40:05

dirty dancing at the end of it. One of the

40:07

reasons I think it's very moving is

40:10

we know they're not going to be together beyond

40:12

this summer. He's the's

40:15

a she's a posh girl. She's

40:17

not going to hang out with Johnny English

40:19

wherever his name is after

40:22

the summer, and I think what

40:24

happens with Kate Winslet and Leonard DiCaprio is

40:26

like, yeah, they've had a lovely summer Oliday and the Titanic.

40:28

She's not going to marry him in the real world. She's

40:31

a push girl. So she's like, how

40:33

am I gonna this was? This is saving me an

40:35

awkward conversation at the airport

40:38

when we get there, you know, when we get to

40:41

land, he's going to be like, so where do we go to your fantasy

40:43

penthouse? And she's gonna go, oh, actually, you're

40:45

not really going to fit in around here. I'm posh. I don't

40:47

like people like you. So she just lets

40:50

him. She goes, oh, there's not enough room on the old

40:52

door. And see, I can't respect that,

40:54

because at least tell me, tell me why

40:57

I'm drowning. Yo, Loki, We're

40:59

never gonna work, but I'll help you up and

41:02

then we'll both live, and then you could go about

41:04

your way. But she killed the man. That's

41:06

homicide. She killed a man to

41:09

avoid an ocal conversation in a few

41:11

weeks time, which I don't I

41:13

mean putting it now. I say it like that. I kind

41:16

of respect that because she doesn't

41:18

want to break his heart. She don't want to break his heart when

41:20

they get to where that guy it's

41:22

toxic. Yeah, and she's

41:24

not a great guy. She's she's

41:26

um. You know how there's fun boys. She's a fun girl for

41:29

that because at least just let the man stay

41:31

on the driftwood. That's it that y'all

41:33

went through all these things together. Yeah,

41:36

Francis cursed you out, and then

41:38

y'all downstairs wading through the water

41:41

like their journal truths and you can't

41:43

let the man come on the driftwood. No. Yeah.

41:46

Maybe it also just says about their

41:49

upbringings. I suppose if you're a push girl,

41:51

you probably don't. She probably thinks, oh, it'll

41:53

be all right, because do

41:57

you know what I mean? It might not even crust the mind to put him

41:59

on the door. Maybe she did like him because

42:01

she's like, he'll be right. He's he's

42:04

a little Rapscallion. It'll be fine.

42:06

And Rapscallion gone gone.

42:09

Killing with Nemo, Yeah, killing

42:13

with all of Nemo's family's

42:16

family. That's it. Well,

42:19

good point. Danielle

42:21

Pinock, what is the film

42:24

that means the most to you. Not necessarily

42:27

the film itself is any good, but because the

42:29

experience you had around seeing the film

42:31

will always make it special to you. Danielle

42:34

Pinock Good probably

42:37

Annie, the original Brenadette, Eaters,

42:40

Um Kenny, all of them. I think I

42:43

saw that with my cousins, and still

42:46

to this day that movie holds up for me. I

42:48

mean, those actors were giving

42:51

their lives. Carol

42:54

Burnett, I mean it's just kind of like, of

42:58

course, it's like a little white girl with slut

43:00

red hair. People are ready to discriminate

43:02

against redheads, so she's basically redheads

43:05

are like the black people for white people.

43:08

So I'm like, okay, cool, I respect her.

43:10

She's rough around the edges in

43:12

the hood and the orphanage and then gets

43:14

an opportunity to be in this rich man's house.

43:17

Yeah, I root for her. I root

43:19

for her, and then she can sing on top of them. Yeah,

43:22

she's ex play because

43:24

she can sing. She can sing without

43:26

question. I love Annie, but always love

43:28

Danny. And it's it's in my

43:31

list of films that didn't get good reviews

43:33

that blow my mind. I'm like, who who

43:35

watches Annie and goes this isn't very good.

43:38

How we got to test those reviewers

43:40

and tell them if they can do the choreography, then

43:43

they can get review because that

43:46

choreography is an matched still

43:48

to this day, Albert Finney like

43:51

chefs like truly, So Daddy

43:55

Daddy will listen. You play Daddy Woolbucks

43:57

wrong. That's a very creepy character. You

44:00

put one foot wrong with Daddy Warbox. What

44:02

this fucking skinhead guy that's like

44:04

bringing in the kid to his rich house and makes

44:06

you like

44:10

you play that any one

44:12

little degree wrong. That film

44:14

is very disturbing. Facts. What's

44:17

the film you most relate to? Danielle Pinock.

44:20

There was an indie film back in the day

44:22

called Camp about these little

44:24

kids in theater camp, and

44:27

it was fantastic. And

44:29

I think that film for sure because

44:32

I saw it at the time when I was a teenager and I was

44:34

also in the theater camp at that time, and

44:36

I loved that film so much. It's

44:39

like my whole high school experience,

44:41

just being kind of awkward, and you

44:44

know, finding the thing that gives you a

44:46

place in this world and in society

44:49

where all your awkwardness is just

44:51

respected and highlighted in such a beautiful

44:54

way. I loved camp loved it well.

44:57

I was going to ask you when you got to like Second

44:59

City is it Is it the sort of place that's

45:01

like breaks you down then builds you up

45:04

or was it like the

45:07

thing is I had been doing classical

45:09

I've been classically trained for years before

45:11

a Second City. I was broken down before

45:14

when I got right,

45:17

yeah, absolutely, Like literally

45:20

coming in Judy Dan's like, okay, I'm

45:22

ready, Like you know, Treveral,

45:26

Like I just literally I

45:28

think that's a thing like when you're theater

45:31

is theater is a cult? You

45:33

know? I don't know how people there's

45:36

no other way to say it, like it just it is

45:39

very culty where it's like you get in, you

45:41

gotta it's a pyramid skin. You gotta do this,

45:43

and then you're gonna get this, and then you're gonna do this and you're

45:45

gonna and then it's like you can come out

45:47

with all these degrees and still

45:50

have zero confidence in yourself

45:52

at all because somebody was like, you're

45:54

too big to play this role, you're too

45:56

brown to do this thing. You need

45:58

to be the slave, you need to be the maid.

46:01

I've been hearing that for so

46:03

long. When I got to the second city, I was like, what y'all got going

46:05

on? What's happening? I'm ready, I'm

46:08

ready. And because I've been doing like my own

46:11

solo performances, there was nothing that anybody

46:13

could tell me that I hadn't already

46:15

heard a in my own family, because I come

46:17

from a harsh family of critics

46:21

and they do it with love. But like,

46:23

there was nothing that anybody could tell me that would not

46:25

allow me to pursue my dream. There's

46:27

nothing. I've heard it all, and I'm like, Okay, cool

46:29

and moving on, Yes and cool,

46:32

moving on? Yes, tell

46:36

me this, Tell me this. What's

46:39

the sexiest film you've ever seen? Danielle

46:41

Pinock um

46:45

how Stella gotta groove back? So sexy

46:49

sexy film. Angela Bassett like,

46:52

Hey, I'm Matt. Angela

46:54

Bassett is unbelievable,

46:58

one of the greatest actors ever and

47:00

also doesn't seem to

47:03

age at all. Looks

47:05

exactly as she did in seventeen

47:08

one. I don't know how she is, but literally,

47:11

she's she's ageless, she's

47:14

a she's phenomenal,

47:16

and she's fucking brilliant,

47:20

stunning, stunning and masterclass

47:22

performance. I mean, I just I stand

47:25

that woman. I think she was just everything and more and Stelegota

47:27

qualback. Definitely. There was like a shower scene where

47:30

I'm like, oh, this is cute and my

47:32

mom was like, it's

47:39

like literally that was me.

47:43

Really good choice, really good choice. There's

47:45

a subcategory to this question. Obviously

47:48

we're gonna have to deal with it. I don't

47:50

make the rules. I do. I do. The

47:53

subcategory is troubling bonus

47:56

worrying why dones filmy founder,

47:58

rousing that you weren't sure you should done?

48:00

Ye doesn't

48:02

get easier. Asking but this

48:05

is rough, this is this is this is getting rough.

48:07

It's hunger Games. Yeah, okay, without

48:12

question. Lion came huge

48:15

press on Simba. Are we talking

48:17

about the specific moment and can you feel the love

48:19

tonight or are we doing just general?

48:21

All the way through the film, I would When

48:24

Simba got brown, yeah, I was

48:26

like, oh, okay, cool, what's happening

48:28

here? The

48:32

hair was falling in a different direction. And

48:34

then when my man went into the water and

48:36

went like this, yeah, I had

48:38

the ball Derek moment, I was

48:41

lamed. I was hooked. That's

48:43

fair. I forget about that one. Lion Disney

48:46

knew what they were doing oh

48:48

yeah, the you know the

48:50

bit with Nala where they rolled down

48:53

the hill and then they're like, oh, and then he looks and

48:55

then she looks, and then they're like, we've been having fun.

48:58

And then they listened each other at that moment

49:00

when I was like, I get

49:03

it, NA get your man says, I get

49:05

it. I get it. I don't mind Nala

49:07

either. You know what if you

49:09

and I went to a wedding together and Nila and Symbol

49:11

were there, I'd say, let's

49:13

split. Happen. This happen.

49:16

Yeah, listen, and I'm getting I'm told

49:18

the game. We'll see you at brunch in the morning. Tell

49:21

me the tale. I need to know everything. Yeah,

49:24

tell me the tale. See your branch do not. I'm

49:26

oh my bad. Yeah

49:30

that's it one

49:33

objectively, objectively

49:36

the greatest film of all time. Might not be

49:38

your favorite, but it is the high point

49:40

of cinematic art. Oh

49:43

God Godfather, I

49:45

love it. I love Godfather. I

49:47

would stay for me. You can

49:50

have it. I mean we haven't had it for a while. I tried

49:52

to ban it because everyone says I'm

49:54

gonna I'm gonna say the one for me, because that's

49:57

the thing that people always say, I've never seen

49:59

the ship shout

50:03

out to Godfather. Yeah,

50:06

not sponsored by I've never seen it. But

50:13

honestly, I have to say Moonlight

50:17

was. Yes, Moonlight

50:21

was a moment. I

50:25

told you, I didn't start watching movies to like to see

50:28

you're

50:31

on TV. You don't know what it is when you see yourself

50:34

on the TV. One that you're gonna shit yourself

50:36

and be like, what the what is this mirror

50:38

that this movie and I'm not moving, I'm

50:41

in the Moonlight is one

50:43

of the all time grades. You can absolutely have that.

50:46

What that question? What a magnificent

50:48

film. Oh, a

50:51

magnificent yo. I'm gonna just say

50:53

notes on the scandal, the performances

50:58

Judi Dench, Yo,

51:05

he kills it in this

51:07

movie, and it

51:09

was so good. I know the

51:12

subject matter is very dark, but

51:15

literally that was my goal to movie.

51:17

I'll be like, oh, let me go, let me see what Judy's about

51:19

to do. I loved it. I thought

51:21

it was fantastic. Okay, you can have

51:23

that, but but we're having Moonlight because that's

51:25

because that's the greatest Moonlight without Moonlight,

51:28

without question, but also

51:30

a having no so on a scale, we we've

51:33

mentioned. We were like, we're going to shout out to notes

51:35

on this scandal. But yeah, that's

51:37

just a that's just like, hey, Judy, what's good?

51:39

Yeah? Moonlight always yeah, yeah,

51:41

Okay, what's the Daniel

51:44

Pinnock, what's the film that you could

51:47

all have? What's the most?

51:49

Over and over again? You know, I'm not I'm

51:51

not gonna lie. I have seen Bridesmaids

51:55

so many times. I've seen

51:57

Bridesmaids. I remember seeing that in

51:59

the theater with my very dear friend Davon Joy Randolph,

52:02

and we're like, oh, we're just gonna see a film change

52:05

our lives. Yeah, I had to get that

52:08

day on bootleg. That's

52:12

the right. You had paid your money once had the cinema.

52:15

That's fine. I think that's okay. I

52:18

think I'd be okay with that. As

52:21

long as you start in the cinema. I don't mind. You do

52:24

in the cinema twice and then got

52:26

on bootleg. Surely did. And Melissa

52:28

McCarthy just absolute

52:31

genius, all of those women, every single person in

52:33

that cast. I mean it was just singless.

52:35

Why is she so funny? Melissa McCarthy,

52:38

I have a theory. What's your theory? I

52:41

think because she's playing this, she's playing it for

52:43

real. That's the thing I think. Alive.

52:46

She's not trying to be funny. She's

52:49

in a in a Paris, not

52:51

quite um Arbou Jeremy

52:53

Strong, but she's playing if she's

52:56

playing it for real, you know, not

52:58

you know, she's not on that end. Yeah you

53:00

shout out to him because he's killing it, you

53:04

know, but she's

53:07

playing it's for real. And I think that's

53:09

what's so funny about it. To me, it's like she

53:12

just she's a genius. She's a genius.

53:15

Yeah, truly. What's the thing she

53:17

did on Saturday Night Live that I thought was what's his

53:19

name? That the terrible man who was Trump's

53:23

you know speech no,

53:27

no, no, no, she played Trump's

53:30

press guy that got oh yeah,

53:32

oh yes, I know that. I can't Spicer.

53:37

Yeah, when she played when this super Company

53:39

played him, that's one of the funniest things ever. And

53:42

I was like, why is she so fucking good? And I was

53:44

like, I think it's because she's dangerous.

53:46

It's because there's a certain madness

53:49

to her that feels like what's

53:52

the word, Like there's

53:54

no edges to it, like like she could

53:57

you feel like she could actually go into

53:59

your did some murder everyone, Like there's

54:01

a real, real like

54:04

she's on the cars. Yeah, and that makes it

54:06

really exciting because you're not safe. You're

54:09

not safe. It's like it's like chaos.

54:11

There's fucking chaos happening where it's here. She's

54:13

amazing anyway, what

54:16

now? Look, I don't like being too negative,

54:18

Danielle. I don't know about you, so we'll do this

54:20

fairly quickly. What's the worst film you've ever seen? Danielle

54:23

Pinock? Hands down, hands down,

54:25

cool Runnings, hands down, whoa

54:27

whoa, hands down worst

54:31

Phil. Let me speak for everyone

54:33

listening, whoa Cool

54:36

Runnings without the I'm Jamaican.

54:39

It was a literal trust

54:43

what accent are rifying?

54:48

The accents are so it's like American

54:51

people trying to do Mary Potton Poppins

54:53

and being like, oh, I'm fucking me and

54:55

you're like, the fuck is going on here?

54:57

You know? The accents are zastrous.

55:01

I was like, I can't even I can't

55:03

do it, Like, yes, oh my god, I love us a good sports

55:06

story, but I'm like, y'all, this ain't it. There's

55:08

nobody in Jamaica doing this. And then

55:11

like if you were Jamaican during that time. Like

55:14

all these white kids used to be calling me Bob Sled because

55:16

that was a movie. They're like Bob, and

55:21

I'm like, we're really not though, because I'm

55:24

I'm in a Christian household. All

55:26

we're doing is reading Bibles and handing

55:28

out Bible scriptures on Halloween. That's what we're

55:30

doing. We're not smoking ganja. We're

55:32

not going on a Bob Sled. My mom

55:34

doesn't even know how to swim. We're not doing any

55:37

of these things, leaving me alone. Hated

55:39

it, hated it. Fair

55:42

answer, How

55:45

did you learn to swim? And why didn't you take

55:47

your mom with you? Oh? My dad. My dad just dropped

55:50

me in the water. Okay. That's

55:52

the thing. He's very that's him work.

55:57

And he was like, okay, she comes up. It's good.

55:59

And I came up when it's up stuck, that's

56:01

it. It stuck. Okay.

56:06

So what's

56:08

the You're in comedy, you're very funny, you're

56:11

hilarious. What's the film that made you laugh

56:13

the most day? Daniel Pinock laugh

56:16

the most? Friday?

56:19

Fucking Love Friday, Friday,

56:22

Love Friday, No Skips.

56:25

I love that. I love Friday. I mean just every

56:28

single human being that

56:31

movie, from background to

56:34

the leads, it just is.

56:37

It hits every time for me. No

56:40

Friday, no skips, Friday skips

56:43

Friday's great. All

56:45

right, Danielle Pinock, you

56:48

have been phenomenal. No

56:50

one surprised. Everyone was

56:52

expecting this and you delivered. However,

56:56

when you were you're in the ocean

56:58

in Malibu with Youmily, you'd invite the whole

57:00

family. Everyone was on

57:03

a boat. None of them can swim. You in

57:05

a way that seemed, I don't know, arrogant.

57:09

You said, none of you can swim, but

57:11

I can. And you dived into the sea

57:14

and you were swimming about, but you'd also been like

57:16

manning the boat, so they were sort

57:18

of stuck just watching you, and you were like, look at me, look

57:20

at me, and you were swimming around. And after

57:22

about two hours of it, they were a bit bored,

57:25

and they were also like getting sundstroke. They

57:27

wanted their head back in, but you were like, no, I'm

57:29

a water baby, watch me swim, watch me swim.

57:32

And suddenly two twins,

57:34

two twins, one set of twins, one

57:37

twins, one twins shark

57:40

grabbed you tossed you in the air

57:43

started eating you, but really

57:45

slowly, and you went hey,

57:52

you went hey, and your

57:54

family were watching and they were like, oh

57:56

my god. They were screaming. But none

57:58

of them could swim because you would never offer to teach

58:01

them to swim. And this has finally

58:03

come back to harn you and the sharks

58:05

that are eating you and eating you. But it takes a It takes so

58:08

long that your family almost

58:10

get bored. Like it was,

58:13

it was exciting and scary and up

58:15

saying, but now it's like, I mean, I wish

58:17

they'd just because you're still going

58:19

hey. You keep saying, hey, they

58:21

haven't taken your head off yet, and they

58:24

sort of eating you from the bottom up, you know what I mean, and

58:30

h and eventually and as

58:32

you say, my

58:35

pension is in New York Trust

58:37

or something, and they

58:40

go okay, cool, thank you, and then you go hey,

58:42

one last hey, hey, and then the shark

58:44

bait your head off, got

58:48

it, and then it went under water and there was just

58:50

blood floating flating up. Anyway, I

58:53

was on a speedboat at the time, just

58:55

pottering around Malibu and had

58:57

a coffin in the back, you

58:59

know, I was lazy day. What am I going to do?

59:01

And I see your family on the boat and they're waving. They

59:04

go, hey, how's it going. I go, hey, you're Danielle's

59:06

family. Where's Danielle? And they point to the water

59:08

and there's just bits of bones and

59:11

blood and a

59:13

bit of flesh just floating around.

59:15

They go. They go, oh, I

59:17

go, she's quite in by sharks right

59:19

because she swam too long. And they go yeah, and I go, oh,

59:22

man, I'm sorry, and they go, do you know

59:24

what. It was shocking at the time, but it went on too

59:26

long and we got bought. Okay,

59:28

I'll tell you back in. So I tell them back in. They

59:31

will go and get in the shade, and I

59:34

older than some cocktails. They actually have a quite a nice

59:36

time. Come back out to get what I can of

59:38

you. It's a mess your

59:41

there's bits of you in seaweed like all

59:43

sorts. Anyway, I only brought this small coffin,

59:45

but there's enough bits of you that I've put

59:48

it in the coffin. And there's a

59:50

couple of like sort of coral. You've got a bit

59:52

of your leg has got stuck on a bit of corals. That's

59:54

that to come in as well. There's

59:56

a reef. There's a bit of reef in the

59:58

coffin. Anyway, I'm what I can. I've put

1:00:00

it all in the coffin. The coffin is absolutely

1:00:03

rammed. There's really only enough room

1:00:05

in that coffin for one

1:00:08

DVD that I can slide into the

1:00:10

side for you to take across to the

1:00:12

other side. And on the other side. It's movie night every

1:00:14

night, and one night it's your movie night. What film

1:00:17

are you taking to show everyone in heaven when

1:00:19

it's your movie night? Danielle Pinock go

1:00:22

Love Basketball. Oh what

1:00:24

a lovely choice. Love

1:00:27

Basketball, without question. I just it's

1:00:30

one of my favorite movies of all time.

1:00:32

No skips, No skips.

1:00:35

That's a lovely choice. And I don't think it's been taken up

1:00:37

there, you know what. Let me tell you something.

1:00:40

Harriet Tabman, she's been. She's

1:00:42

been like she keeps having chats to me. She's like, I don't

1:00:44

know if I forgive her. And

1:00:47

I was like, give her a chance, and I said, let come to her

1:00:49

movie night. We'll see what she picks. See if

1:00:51

that makes any difference. You stand at the front

1:00:53

of that cinema where we're all sat on waves

1:00:56

like King Triton, and you

1:00:58

say I would like to scream in tonight loving

1:01:01

basketball. You know what? I looked across the Harriet

1:01:03

she started crying. M yes,

1:01:07

so all my sins are clans. Yeah, well

1:01:10

I love it. I love it. Shout out

1:01:12

to you, Brett. Yeah,

1:01:15

well I did what I could, Danielle,

1:01:18

You'd be wonderful. Is there anything you'd like to tell people

1:01:20

to watch, to look out for, to listen to

1:01:23

to. I don't

1:01:25

know what else you can do? Yes,

1:01:28

to watch both on CBS

1:01:31

Thursday nights at nine, and you can check

1:01:34

all the season out so far on Paramount

1:01:36

Plus and follow me. I'm a

1:01:38

body curriage on all platforms. I'm

1:01:40

here to make you laugh, So hit me up. I'm here. I

1:01:42

would very much recommend her Instagram. Funny

1:01:45

shit happens on it. I'll say that, well

1:01:48

worth a look, Danielle. I

1:01:50

appreciate you, Thank you for your time.

1:01:53

I hope you have a lovely death and happy

1:01:55

New Year to you, Happy

1:01:57

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1:02:29

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1:02:31

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1:02:33

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1:02:36

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1:02:38

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1:02:41

know what I mean, loved and taking

1:02:43

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1:02:45

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1:02:48

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