0:00

Look out. It's only films to be

0:02

buried with. Thank

0:16

you for coming back. If you're coming back, if this is your

0:18

first time, welcome. My name is Brett

0:20

Goldstein. I am a comedian, an actor, a

0:22

writer, a director, a roofer, and

0:24

I love films. I agree with

0:26

the old French proverb never judge

0:29

someone's life without knowing

0:31

the whole contents of their DVD cabinet.

0:34

Every week I invite a special guest

0:36

over. I tell them they've died, and then they

0:38

get to discuss their life with me through

0:40

the films that meant the most of them. Future

0:42

guests include Ashling, b Nish Kuma,

0:45

Stephen Cree, John Driver, Scrubious,

0:47

Pip and loads more. But for

0:49

episode two, we have the amazing

0:52

Katherine Ryan. If you don't know

0:54

her work, she is one of the finest comedians

0:57

working in the world today. Netflix

1:00

special in Trouble stands up with the

1:02

best of them, and you can also see

1:04

her on countless shows, including Your Face

1:07

or Mine, Roast Battle or

1:09

the new Netflix show The Fixed. She

1:11

has worked mostly in Britain and

1:14

I always describe her as our

1:16

Chris Rock. I know last

1:18

week I promised the sound would

1:20

be great and it

1:23

will be from next week.

1:25

But this episode we did the

1:27

best we could. I was opening

1:29

for Katherine on her stand up tour, and we

1:32

realized the only time we had to record this

1:34

was in the car home from the gig, and

1:36

by the only time we decided, I

1:38

mean, she had no idea we were going to do this,

1:41

and I strapped to mike to her and told her she had no

1:43

choice. The sound is fine, but it's

1:45

also very much sounds like

1:47

we're in a car, because we are

1:49

in a car, but in a way it's quite a sort

1:51

of seething. I listened back to her. I was like, oh, you know, it's

1:54

like being on a journey, you

1:56

know, really go on a journey. Anyway, I hope you can

1:58

forgive it. Then from

2:00

next week the sound will be so clear

2:03

you'll miss it when it was like it

2:05

was this anyway. The point is that's

2:08

it. Well, a couple of brief warnings. We both

2:10

swear from time to time, so

2:12

if you don't like that, I don't know

2:14

what to do with you. And we do

2:16

also touch lightly on dark topics,

2:19

so if you're sensitive to that sort of thing, you can skip

2:21

those bits. Also. I

2:23

think there are probably some spoilers because

2:26

we're talking about films, so if we mentioned a film

2:28

you haven't seen, we might spoil

2:30

it. So if that upsets you, skip

2:33

that bit. But please don't just

2:35

keep skipping it, because otherwise it's

2:37

going to be very short. Oh yeah, and this is

2:39

the shortest episode of all

2:42

because of the amount of time we had, So

2:45

with all those carriats in mind,

2:47

it's a short one. There's a sound of

2:49

a car. The rest of them

2:51

after this, none of them are this short, and none of them are

2:53

in a car. However, this

2:55

one's fucking brilliant. I've already sworn

2:57

there you go. Well if you're steal it.

3:01

So anyway, the point is this

3:03

is episode two of Films

3:05

to be Buried With and I'm very much

3:07

hope you enjoy it. Say

3:22

hello, hello, welcome to

3:25

the podcast. This is a special edition

3:27

of the Red Gold Steel podcast. Is Moving?

3:30

This is an edition of the podcast In a

3:32

Car. Yeah, I am with TV's

3:35

Catherine Ryan. Hello Katherine Ryan. Oh

3:37

yes, hello, I'll be Katherine Ryan for this podcast.

3:40

Oh noll b too, is Catherine Ryan. TV's

3:43

Catherine Ryan. It's just come up stage.

3:45

We've been in Ipswich for

3:47

your tour. I was very lucky to

3:49

open for you. What a delight.

3:51

You're not lucky. It's not like a lottery

3:55

that I have and then you want. I

3:57

was very very blessed

3:59

to have for who agree to join me on tour

4:01

when they were free. So I'm happy that you're free because

4:03

you've got some big things coming up there. You may

4:05

or may not be allowed to announce on this podcast, big

4:08

thing, and you might not be free for so

4:10

long. Huge thing are

4:12

you announcing on your podcast? What

4:15

when do people get to know about your big things? When?

4:17

If? And when the if? And when big things happen? Yeah

4:20

as well. Actually i'd like to keep I

4:23

keep them very quiet. Yeah, okay, I'm sorry. As

4:25

you've seen from my promotion, the way I promote

4:27

stuff, I don't promote

4:29

it, okay, and if I do, it's

4:32

really bad promotion. Sure. That's

4:34

why I'm very humble. Humble

4:38

it is a good word for less successful.

4:41

Now Here we are films

4:44

to be buried with. Very delighted

4:46

to have you on this show. I feel like you

4:48

chose to come on this. It wasn't that we were trapped in

4:50

the cloud together and I stuck in Mike on you

4:53

no, but thanks for hijacking the car. Right

4:56

now, you are welcome. Wait a minute, can I

4:58

just ask you before we begeting? Do you want to be buried,

5:00

like your whole body buried in the earth. Well,

5:03

this is my question for you. Oh you've done.

5:05

At the beginning, the shy starts, we'd say

5:07

with the bad news, which is you've died. Yeah,

5:10

I'm sorry. How did you die? How

5:12

would you choose to die? I

5:14

think I'll keep it light, yeah,

5:17

but I mean I

5:19

always imagined that i'd be murdered

5:22

by a domestic partner, right,

5:24

but now I think that's probably not likely.

5:27

But I thought that for a long time, and then it's

5:29

probably gonna be true, and then I'll be like, ah,

5:33

yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean I think I hope

5:35

I'll just get old. Well, I'm

5:37

just like dying in your sleep or die of like, I'm

5:39

never convinced by this. They just died in this sleep.

5:42

I don't never want to die, I really don't. I mean,

5:44

I don't know how people feel. So

5:46

before not that people have to have children, they

5:48

totally don't. But before I had VI that I

5:51

didn't really think about it too much.

5:53

And then as soon as I was expecting. By

5:55

that, I thought everyone was trying

5:57

to kill me all the time. If I stood too close

6:00

to the train, I was like, oh, or I

6:02

thought someone was gonna steal my baby and kill me

6:04

all the time. Right now, you

6:06

kind of can't die if you're really needed on

6:09

earth. So

6:11

so you think you're having a kid keeps you alive. We

6:14

unfortunately it doesn't. But for me, I just feel

6:17

like it would be very inconvenient for a

6:19

lot of people if I died. Oh yeah,

6:21

especially well

6:24

no, because he could really like ride that sob

6:27

story to the top. He'd be like, no, your

6:29

face of mind, it's not the same ever since I killed

6:31

my co host and everyone be like poor Jimmy.

6:33

And then they'd find some new girl. They'll do that anyway.

6:36

Yeah, when I get just a little

6:38

bit older, they'll take me out

6:40

back and shoot me in the face. That's how

6:42

I'll die. You found

6:44

it. So I'm a woman in television TV's

6:47

Catherine Ryan. Once I get to be

6:49

at a certain age, if they don't start changing the rules,

6:51

yeah they'll I'll just disappear

6:54

and then along will come like some tiny

6:56

child like and maybe a YouTube influencer

6:59

and she'll just take my job and the

7:01

studio will have me killed. Do you think

7:04

in a sort of your face on mind type scenario,

7:07

they'll be lack in fight from the audience.

7:09

Yeah, whether you live or diet, they'll

7:11

win some money.

7:14

One of them shots you in the face. The studio

7:16

wins money if they agree with the audience. Okay,

7:19

so you get shown the faith by

7:21

the audience of your face on money and

7:24

you're you're how would you you're happy to

7:26

be buried or you want to be cremated? Well,

7:28

I want to know about you before I answer do you want

7:31

to be buried? I think I want to be cremated,

7:33

But then I always worry about My

7:35

fear is if you cremate it and

7:38

it turns out when you get to heaven you're

7:40

meant to be in one piece and

7:43

you're now ashes. That's sort of my fear

7:46

that you get there and especially if you've been scattered,

7:49

that you're like in fits over

7:52

heaven. Do you have an attachment to your

7:54

physical form on earth? It's

7:57

just a question, you know, I like the idea

7:59

of crema. Well,

8:02

but you're sort of like meat. Well you are meat, yeah,

8:04

and like meat in a fridge. I

8:06

eat earth. It's cold and fine.

8:09

Meat in a bin. Yeah, no

8:11

good. So I don't think they want that in heaven.

8:15

Well, I'd like to be there.

8:18

You go, okay, But then I

8:20

think you can feel safe living your dreams

8:22

on earth. It that you should not feel maybe

8:25

so much attachment to your physical form because I think

8:28

there's no meat in heaven and that

8:31

on a T shirt if they want. But

8:33

also I saw this article

8:35

about how people should donate their organs,

8:38

and a lot of these articles are like, please

8:41

donate your organs. Here's a child who can see

8:43

because someone gave her their eyes, and it is not

8:45

beautiful. But this article just it was a

8:47

cartoon of a man buried

8:50

like six feet under and he

8:52

was holding his own dead body

8:54

and he was screaming mine,

8:56

and then there were sick people like

8:59

without at his graves. Don't

9:01

just be like her, and they really

9:03

needed his orchids, but he was so selfish

9:05

she was buried at them. Oh yeah,

9:07

I'd like to give everything away. So

9:10

what's left? No, no, no, chuck

9:12

it in the state. So you're fine, going

9:15

to have it without without longs, without

9:17

lungs and heart. You just want my eyes. I

9:20

just won't be able to say was I'll be well annoyed

9:22

if I get to heaven in that plants to see and everyone got

9:24

nice and honestly it's the most beautiful

9:26

place. Yeah, you

9:29

need them for tears in heaven? What about you?

9:31

I would be okay, so ravaged

9:33

by science. Okay, ravaged

9:36

by science. They can have it all. Yeah,

9:38

I mean, very little in me is organic at

9:40

this point. Whatever they can

9:43

dig up, they can have it.

9:45

But I mean, and then I would just

9:47

be cremated. I don't think. I don't want to be scattered.

9:50

I don't really care. I don't have attachment to

9:53

my physical you and mind being that just kicked

9:55

about a faild. No, okay,

9:57

well so you've you've it's

10:00

about the field you should die.

10:03

And basically I want to ask you, do you believe

10:05

in heaven or after life?

10:07

Yes? Okay, so in this after life, turns

10:10

out everyone's quite INTI film, and

10:12

that's all they really ask you about it. So they

10:14

want to sort of learn about your life foot through film. That's

10:16

your heaven. It's listen, it's the word I did

10:18

the research. It turns out that they

10:21

expect you to have eyes. Yeah, because you

10:23

watch the film. Yeah, the films. So

10:26

what's the first film you remember

10:28

seeing. My

10:31

dad used to host

10:34

family film Night every other Thursday, shout

10:37

yeah for real, Yes for real,

10:39

which was also the days of the month

10:41

that he got paid every other Thursday. So

10:44

it was like, who, like we were that kind of

10:46

family, like got paid. And when you

10:48

say family, you mean that extended family or just you

10:50

and your extended family, my sisters,

10:52

my mom and but the catches

10:55

and you won't like it. They're Irish films.

10:58

And so the Irish

11:00

films, yeah, well a

11:02

lot of them were about like horses and just crying

11:05

women. But one that I loved, and

11:07

the first one where I was like, I actually

11:09

paid attention to family game that stopped trying to

11:11

like seduce my cousin was

11:13

called Moore of the Buttons.

11:16

Yeah, and it's actually an incredible film. It's

11:19

these boys and as far as I can tell

11:21

from these Irish films, boys in Ireland, which

11:23

is absolutely left to their own devices, robbing

11:25

orchards, get in tetanus. It was

11:28

all fun and getting

11:30

shot by farmers. My dad got shot

11:32

up by a lot of farmers, did it. Oh

11:34

yeah, scrumping put scrumping

11:38

I think that's what like dirty

11:40

dirty boys where they steal appos

11:43

from farmers or something. Scrumping.

11:45

I don't know if it's a real thing. It sounds

11:47

like a sort of face, but I think it's

11:50

like boys in films, guy scrumping.

11:52

That was our word for sex when we were in high school, Like

11:54

did they scrump? I didn't know that. That's sort of meant

11:57

okay, did he need your appos?

12:00

Ah oo g and a tonic in

12:03

the car I'm driving. So

12:07

my dad did steal apples and

12:09

he was shot at by farmers. I

12:11

don't really know why. I

12:13

don't know if the two events were related.

12:15

But in more the buttons, the Irish boys they

12:18

collect buttons for whatever reason, and

12:20

then they build. What I was really fascinated

12:23

by was the friendships, and they would build these fortresses,

12:27

um, and they spent a lot of time outside just like

12:29

building and playing, and then they'd shoot

12:32

buttons at one another. I mean, the clues

12:34

in the tide up the

12:37

good guys like you guys were good to like. But but

12:40

you asked me my first, So

12:41

yeah, it's really hazy. There are a lot of gaps,

12:44

but I do definitely remember going, oh,

12:46

wait a minute, I think I have the attention span for

12:48

a film. I like Moore the Buttons. So

12:51

you did you like film night? I

12:54

liked it because my family were also sort

12:56

of weird about food. So

13:00

my mom never ever ever gave

13:02

us sweets like ever and always

13:04

cooked, sort of the way a family should be.

13:07

Antithesis when I am now, I'm like Violet,

13:10

you can have anything. You can feed your pony

13:12

skittles. But now my

13:14

mom would cook, cook, cook, But on that night

13:17

we would get takeaway and that would either be

13:19

from Taco Bell Sweet

13:23

or sometimes my sisters would get

13:25

to choose whatever they chose. I wouldn't need it. And

13:27

then we'd get crisps and like in

13:29

a bottle bowl to watch the movie. And I was like a big

13:31

deal, And what were you watching on Telly?

13:35

Well, what do you think we had in I don't know. Some

13:38

people had like like

13:40

Projective and Ship. No they didn't not for their

13:42

first memory. What teenagers are

13:44

you putting on this podcast?

13:48

No,

13:51

no, there's no such things. Back then,

13:54

watched them on like VHS. What

13:56

is the film that scared you most

13:58

in your life? So my best

14:00

friend Jessica Parsons, and I'm still

14:03

friends on Facebook Jesse

14:05

Jesse p She is a farrier,

14:09

which is someone who makes horse

14:11

shoot wow. And

14:13

she was really obsessed with horses

14:16

even back then, Like she can nay like a horse. You

14:18

should call her up. I get this on your podcast

14:20

because she really sounds like a horse when she does a

14:22

horse obsessed Jessica Parsons. I

14:25

mean maybe it would be. Yeah,

14:28

it would be kind of awkward for me to reconnect now

14:30

because Facebook leaves like enough distance

14:32

that it's like, I know, jess oh

14:36

my god, speak yet twenty

14:40

did you called her up? Now? It's like, did you just do an in president

14:42

of a horse? It's not

14:44

funny that I'm really close to both her mother and

14:47

herself on Facebook. I feel like I know everything that's

14:49

up with them, but I would never call them. It would be weird.

14:51

Her mom's great. Her mom's called Georgette, and

14:54

she was my best friend, my first best friend, and

14:56

she was an only child. And

14:58

Georgette was, I

15:00

mean a very early strident

15:04

feminist figure in my life, was always

15:07

talking about women's rights. I remember

15:09

I watched the O. J. Simpson Bronco

15:11

Chase at Jessica Parson's house and

15:13

the mom Georgia's like jumping

15:16

on the couch with the hood god motherfucker

15:18

and talking about men killing

15:20

women And maybe that's what plant in the seats for how I'm going

15:22

to die anyway.

15:25

So at Jessica Parson's house, she

15:27

was allowed to do anything she wanted,

15:29

to eat anything she wanted. She basically was

15:31

violent the way my daughter grows out. Jessica and

15:34

one night they were like one

15:38

night and she loved horror, like horror,

15:41

this kid. And I never watched

15:43

horror. I was like, oh no, I'm not interested, chucky.

15:45

She watched it all one night. She said, let's

15:47

watch Jaws one, two,

15:50

and three, and it's not horror, it's

15:52

just like a you know, nature

15:54

film, and let's

15:56

watch it. And I was so vanilla

15:58

coming from a house where I mean Thursday.

16:05

And then I was like, okay, let's watch The Sharkstone

16:07

and I want to be cool and from a restaurant. So I watched it, but I

16:09

mean, I ship my pants, like I never went

16:12

in the lake. We lived in cana where there were

16:14

no oceans, so there's no threat of sharks. But I

16:16

wouldn't even enter the lake after that, Like

16:18

I was shaken. That's a great one. I

16:20

liked it. I was once in

16:23

Miami, I can't remember for some

16:25

wedding and I was with my friend best

16:28

friend poll and we were walking along

16:30

the beach and a shot came

16:33

to the edge of the beach

16:35

and was like in very very shallow water

16:38

and was snapping and trying to get

16:40

around. True story, sharks

16:43

one way fucking teeth, Oh my god.

16:46

And we were like, what the like you know when people

16:48

say our sharks don't come into that they do? And

16:52

did they close the beach and freaked out? No,

16:54

we were just like, what he didn't

16:56

alert a lifeguard

16:59

and spoil this? Imprice? Oh

17:03

you're busy, Yeah, I got a wedding subertend.

17:06

Speaking of tragedy, what is the

17:08

film that made you cry the mist

17:10

in your life? I watched Changeling.

17:14

Ah wow, dabbing

17:17

right, And I shouldn't have

17:19

done that. You don't like, don't

17:22

like sad films. I didn't know what it was about.

17:24

And then I thought, I think

17:26

I might have had a drink on the plane. And I was feeling

17:28

brave when I like Angelina Jolie, so I was like, well,

17:30

let's see, and I think that's probably the last

17:32

movie I ever watched. It was sad because it wrecked

17:35

me. I'm so so upset to have far

17:37

into the journeyway. Oh

17:39

that's a good question. I wouldn't have been going far back then.

17:41

I only traveled home to

17:43

Canada was the furthest I went, and that is probably

17:47

seven hours, so I'm bang in the middle.

17:49

I'd say I'd had a wine. I was feeling brave changeling

17:52

to throw it on. I mean, I cried watching

17:54

Bad Moms on a plane, so

17:57

it related. But I've not seen Batman, but I hear he

17:59

thinks. I get sad when

18:02

people are sad, and if they're sad about Christmas,

18:05

yeah, anything, then I feel sad. It

18:08

doesn't all have to be changeling,

18:10

you know, No, people get sad about whatever.

18:12

It's still they're still entitled to feel sad. Listen.

18:15

One of the all time saddest things I've ever sat

18:17

from was Matilda. Have

18:19

you seen Matilda? You mean the one with Matilda?

18:26

Yeah? Like, what the fuck is everyone

18:28

talking about? That is a fun show. The saddest

18:30

thing I ever saw in my life. Have you seen the film? Yeah?

18:33

Film is fun to show. It's sad

18:35

though, I mean that little girl's abused, libs,

18:37

abused parents, hater at the

18:39

end, they don't change their mind. No,

18:42

and they she's an orphan whose

18:44

parents are alive. Right, And

18:46

then everybody asked like, oh, isn't it happy ending, Well,

18:49

she hasn't had like her trauma issues

18:51

come out yet. No, and miss

18:53

Honey is another victim of

18:55

abuse. Yep. So I mean a very

18:58

sad story. Morel is abuser to unite

19:01

and singing. It's

19:04

a film that is

19:06

so it's a bad People say that's a terrible

19:08

film, but you love it and you are

19:11

not a shape oh loads. I mean,

19:13

most of the films that I love are not

19:15

critically acclaimed. So you tell

19:17

me because I know I'm not on Like I

19:21

love Clueless. This is a great

19:23

film. Okay, I love mean Girls

19:26

film. I wow,

19:28

I know how you feel about Adam Sandler. You

19:32

do, oh oh, listen that I mixed you up with it

19:34

someone else. I love Adam

19:36

Sailor films like The Wedding Singer was a really

19:38

important film in my life. But I think there

19:41

are a lot of problematic things. You can't watch

19:43

old films now you might say they're

19:45

bad. I love four ye old Virgin. I love train Wreck,

19:47

that's one there, Yeah, train Wreck.

19:50

Okay. So if that doctor had been played by anyone other

19:52

than Bill Hayter, I'd be like, you dumb Mitch,

19:54

get back to like hoeing, you were happier

19:56

before. But Bill Hayter, I'm like, yeah, so

19:59

would you? Bill Hayder Yes,

20:01

was into say what's something you okay,

20:04

okay, okay,

20:10

okay, here is a good one. What is

20:12

the film that has the most meaning

20:15

to you, not because of the film per

20:17

se, but because of the experience

20:19

of watching it. For example, if

20:21

you married, you

20:23

might say the first film I

20:26

saw with my wife was this, because

20:28

I will always love that film. What is

20:30

the film in your life that the circumstances

20:34

surrounding seeing the film make it the most meaning

20:36

Beverly Hills Ninja lovely

20:38

answer continue, Um

20:41

No, I just saw my first kiss watching that film, and

20:44

I didn't want to Kishibody because

20:46

I was so traumatised, because I didn't want to kis him

20:48

because it was a hot movie. So the theater

20:51

was packed to see Chris Farley when

20:54

he was alive in Beverly Hills

20:56

Ninja, and we had to sit in the first I

20:58

think the guy Corow his name is

21:00

Joe, and what was this that day? He

21:02

was my boyfriend, but my like very

21:04

small like grade seven

21:07

boyfriends. That is

21:09

twelve, okay, I think it was thirteen.

21:12

It must have been grade eight thirteen. Joe

21:14

was my boyfriend. I really liked

21:17

him. He took me, you know, you

21:19

know when you start going on a date, and the whole family

21:21

was like the good. You

21:23

know, we were kids, and I was like stop

21:26

everyone, No, I'd never kissed him. And then

21:29

I went to this film and he just started like, oh,

21:31

like frenching me during this whole movie,

21:34

and I was like, oh, please no, because I knew

21:36

that we were so far forward that everyone behind us

21:38

could see. And I was really uncomfortable

21:40

and I really didn't want to but you know, can

21:45

invented um very

21:48

early. Like I didn't see the film, thank

21:50

god, but I remember just being so

21:53

distracted by like, oh good, it's probably un trying to

21:55

kiss me an, oh my god. I don't know, but I know that it

21:57

was Beverly Hills nin or so bad. So you

21:59

don't even know out that story results,

22:01

I mean, does it resolve? Is there a plot to Beverly

22:03

Hills Ninja? Yeah, what happens, it

22:07

has to become a ninja and in the

22:10

end learned self something. It

22:12

does something for paper. I mean, it sounds great, great

22:15

answer. I mean, I'm sorry that happened to you, speaking

22:19

of which I guess takes us to our next

22:21

question. Basically, what's the film

22:24

you think is the most sexy. What's

22:26

the sexiest film you've ever seen? We

22:29

were like, oh my god, that one did

22:31

it for me. It would have been The

22:33

Wedding Singer right in terms

22:35

of like at the time, I thought

22:38

that was so sexy, and I was so in love with Adam

22:40

Center, and I haven't felt that passionately about

22:42

any film, even if arguably I've seen

22:44

sexier films since save The Last Dance.

22:47

Whoa okay for like Little

22:50

the Nillo, White Girls living in a town with zero

22:52

black man. That was an intense film for us

22:54

all But now again I'm

22:56

like, oh, well, I don't know if we should

22:58

be got to shut using these these these

23:01

people, but anyway, as we should be

23:03

saving the Last Day, don't

23:06

say well last because I don't. I

23:08

haven't really cared if things are sexy

23:10

since then. I suppose The Notebook is

23:12

a sexy film for girls. I saw that. I think

23:14

I still had feelings when I saw the notebook, right,

23:17

it was the last time you had a sexual feeling,

23:19

oh Beverly Hills and interest,

23:23

and that feeling was good. Yeah,

23:26

I missing Chris Farley. I don't get like aroused

23:28

by films, do you? Yes? Okay,

23:33

no, no hashtag not films

23:35

you've aroused by directors. Next question,

23:39

what is the film that you have most

23:42

related to? What film have you watched

23:44

where either the character or the film is how do you

23:46

go that's me? That is? That's

23:48

me? Probably none? Do

23:51

you have one? Do you ever say it at any point in the podcast?

23:54

I do have one, and it's cause

23:56

me. The film I most related

23:58

to is the film Shot with

24:01

Steve Murtin. Really, I

24:03

love Steve Martin character of Steve

24:05

Martin shopping out. If you take away his

24:08

age and the fact that he's very wealthy,

24:10

that's the most time. I

24:13

mean, oh yeah, I really get that. That's

24:15

a cool one. I hadn't

24:18

really considered that I could be a boy in these film scenarios.

24:21

I like the movie The Other Woman. That's

24:24

ah Leslie Man. Not a celebrated

24:26

film, but I really like Leslie Man. Love

24:28

Leslie Man. But I don't know if i've really I think I've probably

24:31

been all those different women at one some point

24:33

in my life. But no, I

24:35

have not seen myself representative film. Well,

24:38

it's about time that changed. Be

24:40

the change you want to see. I don't make

24:42

a film. Okay, what film

24:45

do you think? Objectively? It doesn't have to be your

24:47

favorite, but objectively you're like, that's

24:49

the greatest film ever made. You might

24:51

not even enjoy watching it. For example,

24:54

Citizen Kate is always called the greatest

24:56

film of all time. Most people don't watch that, but

24:59

take is that a fucking great film? Oh

25:03

so I don't really know what makes

25:05

a great film because I don't geek

25:07

out over as much as you do. It is pulp fiction,

25:09

and answer, it's all take

25:12

it. That's a good film. It is

25:14

well made, stands the test

25:16

of time. That's kind of how you know? Can

25:18

you? Yeah?

25:23

What is this film? Tell me what this film is

25:26

called? Yeah? Oh, Working

25:28

Girl? Love that film? Yeah that is

25:31

that is the one. My previous answer. I feel

25:33

like Working Girl because I

25:36

like her a lot. But also this film,

25:41

who is the girl in it? It's

25:43

not gonna be like Billy Crystal, But

25:45

it's someone like that who's just like this

25:48

guy. Oh man, this

25:51

is gonna bug me. No,

25:53

Meryl Streep is in this film. Yes, and

25:56

they're dead, I think,

25:58

but they do you mean that becomes her?

26:01

Do I where they go?

26:04

No? So this guy

26:07

is like they're sort of really

26:09

good sketch actors who I'm

26:11

never going to find out the name of this film. Okay,

26:15

so someone is God. Yeah, some

26:17

people are dead. Everyone's dead in this place.

26:19

But some people are like VIP Dead experience.

26:22

I don't know. I

26:25

don't know that Yna Daryl

26:27

Hannah, Meryl Streep, O keep

26:30

Meryl Streep is in this film. And so

26:32

there's a guy and he's a funny guy, not

26:35

good looking up for her, but like in cinema, that

26:37

doesn't matter. And he falls in

26:39

love with her and he's in like Economy

26:43

heaven and she's in like vi IP

26:45

heaven, and they they have like things

26:47

they do and they have like little restaurants and they

26:50

they're they fall in love and there's like this god.

26:54

Yeah, and there's the film called Defending

26:57

Your Life. I don't know. Hang on, I'm

26:59

gonna google up Brooks. I really want to know Albert

27:02

Brooks. It's the guys. I

27:04

think the guys. Oh my wifeis

27:06

too, is low Defending your

27:08

Life? I don't think I would have put on a

27:10

film called defending your life. Wait

27:13

it is Albert Brooks. Yes, defending

27:15

your life. Yeah, so what's

27:17

that about? He dies and then

27:20

he's got to defend his life because

27:22

to get into heaven. Yes, yes,

27:25

I like that movie. You

27:30

you're asking me. It was like the most well made film

27:32

and thank you. Defending I'm

27:35

thinking the films that are the best made are

27:37

not new yeah, because

27:40

I don't know why. But back then I believed

27:42

it when people were having meaningful conversations

27:44

and they didn't have phones. Yeah, and

27:47

now if anyone's chatting, I'm like, wait,

27:49

where's your phone? Hey? I did agree

27:51

with that when you just text each other this like

27:53

you can't really have sporty yeah,

27:58

where people are like, oh she's going to show

28:00

up or not, while she would just text you know. Yeah,

28:03

So what is the film I've done? Guessing Defending

28:06

your life? Thank you? What is the film

28:08

you watched the most you could watch? Like? Then,

28:10

if if I could say you can only watch one film forever, watch

28:13

the open over again, what would that be mean? Girls,

28:16

lovely the musical and

28:18

Broadway. Yes, I do. And you know, just today

28:21

my girlfriends were texting me saying,

28:24

we need to have a girl's name watch Mean Girls, because one of

28:26

us, Elizabeth, has never seen it. And

28:28

I was like, girls, no, we've come too far. Let's

28:31

fly to New York. Can go see our Broadway? I

28:33

think you should. I think we should too, and I think we will.

28:35

Although can it be better than the film? No?

28:38

Yeah, yeah, the producing musical better

28:40

than the film, and the film's end Okay,

28:43

it's possible. Ending an epic. Mean

28:45

Girls has got everything, and it's a time

28:47

capsule of like when I was twenty.

28:50

You know what, though, she sacrificed her

28:52

youth for our enjoyment. I know,

28:54

and I'm very grateful to it. Before

28:57

we get to the last question, question,

29:00

I don't know. It's between negative. What

29:02

do you think is the worst film of all

29:04

time? The West from You've the

29:07

same where you're like this fucking piece

29:09

of shit. Oh that's a really good question,

29:12

the worst film of all time? I

29:14

would probably just turn it off so

29:17

I would forget and I wouldn't know what

29:20

film have I seen? All the way through? I hate

29:22

the whole story of Mamma Mia. And I know the

29:24

film Mammamia did well, but I don't. I

29:26

don't care about it. I don't buy it. What

29:29

is it? I mean, let's talk about Mamma about

29:32

this story. I mean, I just really get annoyed

29:34

by all the If there's gonna

29:36

be singing out of nowhere, then I needed to really

29:40

like stack up to what it's

29:42

doing to me. And I don't like Abbott and

29:44

that's controversial as well. It's just not for me. And

29:47

then when I first thought the musical

29:50

look, I have

29:52

participated in musical theater all my life. I love musical

29:54

theater. I'm fine with people being gay, but

29:57

when the main love interest is

30:00

so camp, I

30:03

can't believe for a minute that he's yeah,

30:06

yeah, that is, it's troubling. I definitely

30:08

thought what's happening. I thought the twist

30:11

was going to be he was going to come out

30:13

at the end, right, and it was gonna be like, of course you're

30:15

not marrying. Sometimes I find that distracting.

30:17

It's like for that though.

30:19

It just when I saw it live, the guy was

30:22

I can't even tell you, like just so like I

30:25

don't know. And then this

30:27

stuck, like John Travolta in the movie or something,

30:29

or was that they all moulled into one. I'm

30:31

just not into it any of that wor I've seen that

30:33

film because you watch it.

30:36

I went on the Boys and Night out to say it to see

30:38

what me Jerry how and Pet Butcher when

30:40

we were edinburd in Edinburgh run and

30:42

we were all having a nervous breakdown and we went to just

30:46

the three of us and a light of our women, and

30:50

about half an hour in suddenly

30:52

we were suddenly that this is the greatest film we've ever seen.

30:55

And pace President is in it. A

30:57

place President has the singing voice of

31:00

a dead He's a

31:02

dead cat. M that's a

31:05

cat has spoken call. It's like a dead he

31:07

can't sing, can't sing wow, And

31:10

he has to sing it solo. And

31:12

it's one of the great moments in cinematic It is

31:14

quite a long sort of build up. He's sort of

31:16

he's at the wedding. It's sort of like a speech and

31:18

he starts singing and he's sort of

31:20

go I can't believe. I believe

31:23

this is a multiplace's

31:26

sci fi twenty seven dresses. That's

31:28

the worst. Oh good choice. Why

31:32

just started to get mad, and then I thought of it. I

31:35

forget why. That's another one I saw on a plane.

31:37

It just made me so mad, I forget why. So

31:39

the setup is she's being twenty seven

31:41

times yeah, and then she has all these

31:43

dresses and she's like a supporter, friend and a good person

31:46

and therefore a count. And

31:51

then she like marries this guy that I hated it. So

31:53

I guess the real question, because we haven't asked

31:55

this with this gutting around it, what's

31:58

your favorite film? I

32:01

really struggle to commit. I

32:04

don't know if I could pick number one. I thought the more

32:06

we'd talked about it, one would like present

32:09

itself as my favorite. I mean, mean

32:11

Guy seems I had to contended. I don't like mean

32:13

girls, but I mean, if you removed all

32:15

other films and I had to watch only mean Girls, I'd be

32:17

pretty upset. Nope, I'll tell you what it is. Troop

32:20

Beverly Hills is my favorite film.

32:23

Lo. Yep, Shelly Long in a bunch of

32:26

little scenes. Yep, they're

32:29

not teams, they're like little gal children. And

32:31

she oh that is like the original

32:34

legally Blonde, the fashion her

32:36

whole like sassiness thing. Oh,

32:40

oh, it holds up Troop

32:42

Beverly Hills. Katherine

32:45

Man's favorite film is True Beverly Hills and frankly,

32:47

I'm not surprised, good,

32:51

very unbred. Ah do you like

32:53

it? I think I do. I haven't

32:55

seen it since it was the first out. Try it again.

32:58

What it means since it was first out was first in

33:00

the eighties, you couldn't see her. Yeah, it was like three.

33:03

I remember seeing in America on the

33:05

Telly and being like, I

33:07

listen. I love Shelley Long because I always loved Cheers. Yeah,

33:10

why are we in America? Films?

33:12

At three? My my mom's

33:15

sister lives in America, so we've got to visit

33:17

her. She lives in Miami,

33:19

where the Sharks. That's pretty

33:21

cool. Yeah. I also went

33:23

my auntie. I love her very much, but she

33:28

is a terrible, terrible person

33:30

to go to the cinema with. She took

33:32

us to see American Pie and

33:35

her phone rang and she answered

33:37

it said very loudly, Yeah,

33:40

I'm in the movies. Why do American

33:43

Pie? No, it's okay. I

33:45

had a whole conversation because she lives

33:47

in Miami, and they're gross give a shit,

33:50

and they should be fed to sharks. Yeah,

33:52

that's why the sharks are there. People

33:55

for the good of you, man, Miami trash.

33:57

Okay, So, Katherine, it

34:00

turns out getting shot in

34:02

the face by the audience of your

34:04

face on mine. Yeah, it blew

34:06

up your head much bigger than we

34:08

expected. And when we were putting you in

34:10

the coffin, there's any room for one

34:13

film to go with you. Yeah, all

34:15

are the ones we discussed. There's anyone for one. What

34:18

are you're taking with you to a

34:20

I take my favorite troop, Beverly Hills,

34:22

True, Bevernly Hills. So it's your splattered

34:25

face, ye, your

34:28

splattered face on my true

34:32

Beverly Hills. Yeah, because the sky picks

34:34

around the field everything I want. It's got

34:36

kids, it's got fashion, it's got comedy,

34:39

it's got feminism, it's got Shelley Long,

34:41

and it's got brownies, right, and brownies

34:44

also awesome. Yeah, i'd have a nice accult

34:46

brownie. No, I wasn't,

34:48

but I was involved in a lot of extracurricular

34:50

activities that prevented me from being able to do

34:53

brownies. Can you tell me

34:55

what do you mean? Like piano singing,

34:58

gymnastics, ballet, tap, jazz,

35:00

lyrical, musical, theater. I was

35:02

doing it all. I liked to say to the audience

35:05

at home. I know you will know TV's

35:07

Cavern Ryan from TV, but I was a

35:09

fan of cavery mind pre TV. Oh

35:12

yeah, I saw her first enter,

35:15

the best enter, saw she

35:17

want to to. I

35:20

did lots of dances and then a mom popped

35:22

out at the end like a jack in the box. And

35:24

it was a fucking brilliant It

35:27

was a really good epilogue. Is that the

35:30

right one or is it the other one? Rogue?

35:33

That's what this is so good.

35:36

Really set the stage. That's why Brett like being

35:38

my friend, because he knows where he came from from

35:40

that show that three people saw and I

35:42

was one of them. And I'd say it again, Brett was two of

35:44

them. I was bigger

35:47

at the time. Ryan.

35:50

Is there anything else you'd like to read before we wrapped

35:52

this up. I like your podcast. I respect

35:54

your love of films. Thank you. I

35:57

think if people who love films are listening to this podcast,

36:00

go outside yesterday. I sorry

36:03

about a French film about AIDS activists in the

36:05

nineties. I did think of you

36:11

than on that note.

36:14

Thank you very much. Thank

36:16

you very much for coming on the show. Very

36:20

quick yea on podcast. I think

36:22

forty one minutes. It is good for a podcast. Well done

36:24

and I hope you have a lovely and I'm gonna let you

36:26

into heaven by the way. Thank you.

36:29

They will enjoy truth Beverly Hills. And I'm

36:32

also sneaking in a DVD of a

36:34

show show where

36:37

you're in the Little

36:40

Exceptions exception. Thanks

36:42

for coming, Thanks for having me on. You're

36:45

good in the special. Shout

36:47

out to Annie who's driving the car. Thank

36:49

you Annie for driving the car. I

36:51

like your podcast. Yeah, it's

36:54

fun podcast. So

36:59

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37:01

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