In this episode I display absolutely terrible interviewing skills and mainly talk AT Erin Semple about her project twenty-four, with tangents on the labour of arguing with men on the internet, Peter Pan's shadow, and how a gallery with walls to fill should promptly exhibit Erin's work.

You can see the full project and stalk Erin online here.

A note on audio: apologies - I'm aware of the problems with background noise during the interviews and will record future episodes in a quieter environment. Hopefully for now it can be a nice bit of pub ASMR for everyone in lockdown! For those with hearing impairments, or for anyone who wants visuals to accompany this chat, this episode is available as a subtitled video on Youtube here.

A word of warning: all episodes will more than likely contain swearing, this is part of the informal nature of these dialogues. Please take this into account if explicit language is likely to offend.