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Matt Gaetz, the biggest fire brand
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inside of the House of Representatives. You're
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not taking Matt Gaetz off the board,
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okay? Because Matt Gaetz is an American
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patriot and Matt Gaetz is an American
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hero. We will not
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continue to allow the Uniparty to
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run this town without a fight.
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I want to thank you, Matt
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Gaetz, for holding the line. Matt
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Gaetz is a courageous man. If
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we had hundreds of Matt Gaetz
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in D.C., the country turns around.
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It's that simple. He's so tough.
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He's so strong. He's smart and
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he loves this country. Matt Gaetz. It
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is the honor of my life to
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fight alongside each and every one
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of you. We will save America.
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It's choose your fighter time. Send
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in the firebrains. And
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this bill today funds all
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of that, continues to fund all of that. Every
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single Republican should vote no, should
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vote no, and should be ashamed of
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ever voting yes. This is our opportunity.
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This is the time. Remember, this was
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supposed to be done last September. We're
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now in the middle of March of the next year.
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This is their opportunity to say, what happened on
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the border yesterday that all of America is now
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looking at as they wake up this morning, this
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is going to stop and it's going to stop
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with us. And if they
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don't vote no on this bill, what
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they're saying to their constituents, their bosses who
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sent them to Washington, D.C., Democrat or Republican,
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what you saw at the border, that's
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fine with me. That's good. Let's get more of that.
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I urge all of our colleagues, not
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just the brave ones that are standing
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here today in front of you, but
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every single member of the House, Republican
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and Democrat, reject this bill. that
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scott perry describes played out as the
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house of representatives passed the second half
2:05
of the omnibus spending legislation today that
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we've worked so hard to try to
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stop at the end there were two
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hundred eighty six yes votes a
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hundred and thirty four no vote so an
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overwhelming more than two-thirds majority for this terrible
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piece of legislation we're gonna go through from
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the bad earmarks in it uh... some of
2:23
the bad uh... bad funding choices that were
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made we always like to look at where
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the republicans stood and you heard scott perry
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there a leader in the freedom caucus uh...
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calling out republicans who would vote
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for this democrat spending bill one
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hundred and one republicans shamefully
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voted yes one hundred
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and twelve republicans voted no so
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that means a majority of
2:47
the majority voted against
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this terrible legislation and yet
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is going to become a lot anyway the
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majority of the majority you fought for got
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rolled by the democrats and there
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was one particular moment in uh...
3:01
in this bill that got me
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it was when uh... mike
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bost fresh off of his one point
3:08
primary election victory voted
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yes and
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then when it became clear that the bill
3:15
had all of the votes that it needed to pass all
3:17
that he ran down to the clerk and change his vote
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to a no vote so mike
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bost was actually for it then
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flip to be against it when the no vote
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didn't matter i wonder if that one point primary
3:30
election victory had anything to do uh...
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with that motivation but it's
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deceptive and it's dishonest and
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uh... unfortunately we saw a
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betrayal of republican values there's no other
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way to describe it from a one
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hundred and one republicans one
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hundred and twelve of us who voted no were
3:49
not enough to stop this bad bill there's
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other breaking news on capitol hill today
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mike gallagher just announcing that he will
3:56
be resigning from the house of representatives
3:58
prior to the conclusion of his term.
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The end, I guess middle of end of
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April, we saw April 19th bouncing around as
4:06
a date that was being reported by Jake
4:08
Sherman at Punchbowl News. And Mike Gallagher is
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a very smart person. Mike Gallagher
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is someone who understands the world a great
4:15
deal. I sat next to him on the
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House Armed Services Committee for seven years. He
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chairs one of the cyber
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intelligence evolving technologies subcommittees
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upon which I serve.
4:28
And it's very disappointing to see him
4:30
resigning before the end of his
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term. When we get elected, we get
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elected for two year terms. We're on a two
4:37
year contract. I think every member
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should stay for the two years. And it's,
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I have this view whether I like the person or not. I
4:45
didn't like Kevin McCarthy. I was
4:47
disappointed when he left before the conclusion of his
4:49
term. I like Mike Gallagher, disappointed
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that he's leaving before the conclusion of his term.
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Because to me, it's like a breach of
4:56
contract with your voters. You
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signed up for a job you knew when you signed up
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for it, how long it lasts. And my
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frustration comes from the
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fact that we are now at a
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one seat majority. One. One.
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And that puts everything that
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we could potentially do at grave risk. And
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it, it strengthens the hand of
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those who want to draw us into
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these bad bills that give away the
5:22
forms of the Democrats when our majority
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is reduced, cut
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by a quarter, cut in half, cut
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to barely nothing. The other breaking news
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on Capitol Hill today is that Marjorie Taylor
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Greene has filed a motion to vacate. When
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I filed a motion to vacate Kevin
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McCarthy, it demanded immediate legislative
5:41
action within a prescribed window.
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So two days after I
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filed the motion to vacate
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McCarthy, there was
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a window that opened and
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immediately upon that window opening, I called
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for a vote. We heard Congresswoman Greene
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describe her intentions very differently today. Her,
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her Tension was not
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to file this and call it up for a
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vote within two days as I did. She's
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filing it and I guess for
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lack of a proper legislative term, she's
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allowing it to cook. She's allowing it
6:11
to simmer. She's allowing it to, I
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guess, be the subject of some discussion
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and debate. It's hard not
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to view these two stories, Gallagher leaving,
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Green filing this in
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some concert, right?
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Because whether or not you can execute a
6:28
motion to vacate the speaker is
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contingent upon your size of majority at
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any given moment. When I
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vacated McCarthy, I
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made a promise to all of you, to
6:40
the entire country, that we would not end
6:42
up with a Democrat speaker. I knew
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it. I promised it. Had
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we ended up with a Democrat speaker, then I
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would have broken my word to you and I
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would have been rightfully dropped out
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of this job. As
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I sit here now with a one vote majority with
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like, I don't know, 10, 12 of our members
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in Biden districts, am I
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sure that one, two, three of
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those people to be the head of the budget committee,
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to be the head of the appropriations committee, to be
7:09
the head of the intelligence committee, to be
7:11
the head of the rules committee, to be the floor
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leader, that one or two
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of them wouldn't cross over and vote for a
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Democrat, maybe even Hakeem Jeffries? I'm not sure of
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that. Because I'm not
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sure of that, do not count me among those
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who would support a motion to vacate at this
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time. Not that there's one that's been
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called up to be fair to Congresswoman Green. I
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think she understands that dynamic. That's
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why she is pursuing a different path
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than I pursued with Kevin McCarthy. But
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we'll continue to follow up on it.
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Really what brought us to this moment,
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or even having this discussion, unfortunately,
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is this omnibus spending bill.
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And it violates all of the principles that
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I set forth. And frankly, it violates a
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lot of the principles that I know Mike
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Johnson campaigned on when he ran for speaker.
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And that's why he wants to... to get
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to a discussion of 2025 spending
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to lay out a vision, to show those
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priorities. And a lot of people
8:07
are smarting and hurting over what
8:09
we just experienced today. And if
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there is a sentiment
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that is just so Washington and
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so wrong and so vile and
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so destructive to our economy and our nation, it
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is the sentiment that you always just have to be
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for the deal. Some people
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get deal hungry, deal happy. You
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know what, we just need a deal. And it doesn't
8:32
matter if it's a bad deal, good deal. If it
8:34
increases inflation, if prices go up, if
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the lobbyists get paid off, just get the deal
8:38
done. It
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is so corrosive. And no one expresses
8:43
that sentiment more than someone
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who is leaving Congress at the end of his term,
8:48
but fulfilling his term,
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North Carolina Congressman and former,
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I guess, McCarthy wet
8:54
nurse, Patrick McHenry. Here's Congressman McHenry
8:56
making this bad argument. You
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know, it's been well covered my
9:03
constructive criticism of the speaker. And
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I think I wanna emphasize the first
9:08
part, which is go
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land the deal. Do not
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fear the deal. You
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have to go land those legislative priorities
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in order to show power and
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to exercise power. Otherwise, you don't wanna
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be speaker unless you wanna go land deals. He
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has now landed his second big deal as
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a speaker and he'll land it this week. That
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should be commended. Just
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worked for the deal. And I'm gonna go
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over some of the bad stuff that was
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in that deal, but we've got some comments
9:41
on the live stream. People wanna know who
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voted which way. And so Jacob, let's make
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sure we get the vote sheet from our
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legislative team and post on our official Facebook
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and our official X pages so that the
9:53
people here who wanna know where their member
9:55
of Congress can see how the
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vote played out. But it was a
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vote on so. many things that do not have
10:01
an appropriate federal nexus. Let me just go
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through some of these earmarks. So New Jersey
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senators are at half
10:08
a million taxpayer dollars that they
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got to fund a state organization
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that force feeds the LGBT agenda
10:14
in schools. The group,
10:16
Garden State Equality, assists in
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finding gender mutilation
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surgeries for minors and
10:23
they harass schools that prevent biological men
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from using women. Bathrooms and participating in
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women's sports. So that's what half a
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million went to. Massachusetts senators got a
10:32
million bucks in taxpayer funds to support
10:35
a leadership academy for left
10:37
wing political organizations. The
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Massachusetts Women of Color
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Coalition that explicitly caters
10:44
to non-white women. So
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if you're a man or if you
10:49
are white, this million dollars in Massachusetts
10:51
is not for you and really it
10:53
is a beachhead for the defund the
10:55
police movement. Part of what
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they're advocating for is quote, use of
10:59
force statutes and policies, close
11:02
quote for police to change. Maryland
11:04
getting their nose down in the
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trough, their senators won half a
11:08
million in taxpayer dollars for an
11:10
organization called the Third that provides
11:12
a safe space for women of
11:14
color entrepreneurs. I mean, in
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Maryland, if you need to go
11:19
create safe spaces for a specific
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ethnic or immutable trait
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of entrepreneurs, then do it with your own
11:27
money. Connecticut senators won
11:29
$156,000 to subsidize construction of
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the Hartford Gay and Lesbian
11:33
Health Collective. Wisconsin senator wanted
11:36
half a million dollars to
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promote LGBT programs to
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teenagers. So we're going into
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debt, we're $34.5 trillion in debt. We're
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driving $2.5 trillion annual deficits.
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But teens like us is
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a program that you are now funding so
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that there can be trans tape
11:56
kits provided to minors. That's
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literally what they do. and Wisconsin's
12:01
Democrat Senator Tammy Duckworth wanted that.
12:04
Connecticut senators got $155,000 in taxpayer monies going
12:08
to an organization called Make
12:10
the Road CT. Their
12:13
executive director recently criticized Joe Biden
12:16
for rightfully calling Lick and Riley's
12:18
murder illegal. So
12:21
the head of this organization criticized
12:24
his Biden for calling
12:26
a murder illegal and a $155,000 windfall
12:29
as a consequence. This legislation is chock
12:31
full of this stuff. The top lines
12:33
are too high. The
12:35
debt is just blown out
12:37
and no one seems to be too
12:39
eager in taking responsibility for it. One
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of my terrific colleagues, fellow firebrand Chip
12:44
Roy, was debating on the floor against
12:46
this bad legislation. Take a listen. The
12:51
Democrat leader talks about the
12:54
mosaic. I assume by
12:56
the mosaic that anyone who votes for this
12:58
bill today will be supporting that
13:00
we're talking about $156,000 for the Hartford Gay and Lesbian Health
13:05
Collective, an organization self-described
13:07
as champions of LGBTQIA equity and
13:10
provides training and cultural competency and
13:12
access to health care for LGBTQ
13:14
youth, or $2 million in
13:16
Oregon clinic that provides hormone therapy for
13:19
kids, or the $850,000 for gay senior
13:22
housing in Massachusetts, or $400,000
13:24
for the Briar Patch Youth Services
13:27
in Wisconsin, then its gender affirming
13:29
clothing program for kids 18 to 13 to
13:31
18, or $400,000 to the Garden
13:35
State Equality Education Fund, which helps
13:37
minors transition genders, promote biological boys
13:39
playing girls sports, and using the
13:41
same restrooms. I could go on
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and on. How about the million
13:45
dollars for the inner city Muslim
13:47
network, which calls for the destruction
13:49
of Israel? That's what we're
13:52
funding. That's precisely what we're funding
13:54
in legislation. So when the
13:56
Democratic leader talks about a mosaic, that's
13:58
what he's talking about. talking about. And
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my Republican colleagues who will campaign against
14:03
it all year, they will, they're
14:06
voting to fund it today. To
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be very clear, my Republican colleagues
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are voting to fund that so-called
14:12
mosaic today, unless they choose the
14:15
right path and vote against it. And
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my friend from California, when he talked
14:19
about, oh, oh the horrors that will
14:21
happen if we have a CR, well
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we shouldn't be here. This is the
14:25
swamp acting what it does. Have government
14:27
funding expire on the Friday before a
14:29
two-week recess heading into Easter, precisely
14:32
to have the pressure of jet fumes
14:34
so that the American people are the
14:36
ones left holding the bag, so that
14:38
we, members of Congress, can go off
14:40
to our CODELS, can go travel, can
14:42
go do your fundraisers, can make sure
14:44
you get home. But
14:47
the ones left holding the bag are the American
14:50
people. And we talk about this,
14:52
the game was given up. When we talk
14:54
about defense, everything that is happening
14:56
here is being done in the name of defense. Everything
14:59
that you see and talking about
15:01
our national security will be undermined. Well tell
15:04
me about national security in Texas, when
15:06
you have the National Guard getting rolled over in
15:08
El Paso, when you have Texans
15:10
dying from fentanyl poisoning, when you
15:12
have gangs and cartels operating in Texas.
15:15
Talk to me about national security then. That
15:20
was Congressman Chip Roy, we're back live and
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despite that effective and persuasive debate, again, we
15:24
had over a hundred Republicans voting for this
15:27
bad legislation and they will have to face
15:29
their voters and I think the judgment is
15:31
going to be very harsh. We
15:33
have another report from businessinsider.com. Ex-Trump
15:36
official, we'll get
15:38
to why that's ridiculous in a moment, file
15:41
suit arguing lawmakers should make more than $174,000 a
15:43
year. So here's the crux
15:47
of this argument. The 27th Amendment
15:49
to the Constitution says, No
15:51
law bearing the compensation for the
15:54
services of senators and representatives shall
15:56
take effect until an election of
15:58
representatives shall have intervened. So
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this lawsuit filed by Ken Cucinelli, the
16:03
former attorney general of the state of
16:05
Virginia, was
16:07
on behalf of Republican Congressman Rick
16:09
Crawford of Arkansas and a trio
16:11
of ex-lawmakers from both parties. And
16:14
it says that because the
16:17
members of Congress have a $174,000 a year salary that has it changed,
16:22
that it has been, quote,
16:24
unconstitutionally suppressed. They're seeking
16:26
$50 million in this
16:29
class action lawsuit. And
16:31
one of the named plaintiffs is
16:34
actually, this caught me by surprise, former
16:36
Republican representative Tom Davis of Virginia is
16:39
seeking $268,839 additional dollars. Tom
16:43
Davis is now a lobbyist for
16:46
foreign governments. I think he might
16:48
be like a registered foreign agent or something. But
16:52
how you can go from being a lawmaker
16:55
and then you go to
16:57
using that prior
17:00
experience to make money from foreign
17:02
governments to lobby members of Congress
17:04
and then the nerve to come
17:06
back and say that's not a
17:08
sweet enough deal and you need
17:11
to get paid back pay, it is
17:14
legally flawed and
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I believe it is morally bankrupt
17:19
to back this lawsuit. So don't count me
17:21
among those who want to get
17:24
the $50 million in back pay for members of
17:26
Congress. No one needs to be worried
17:28
about us. We get taken care of just
17:30
fine compared to the working people who get
17:32
screwed each and every day just like Chip
17:35
Roy was talking about. Outside
17:37
of the substance of this report,
17:40
what really got me was
17:43
that Ken Cuccinelli, the person
17:45
who is bringing this lawsuit
17:47
is described in this big headline as
17:49
ex-Trump official. Ken
17:51
Cuccinelli was the chairman of Never
17:54
Back Down. Ron DeSantis is
17:56
super fact. Why wasn't he described as, I
17:58
don't know, the guy who formerly led a
18:01
super PAC attacking Donald Trump just
18:03
to give you a flavor of it and spare
18:05
me the throwback. But
18:08
I guest hosted a Newsmax program some
18:10
months ago when the presidential contest was
18:12
still raging between Trump and DeSantis and
18:14
I had Cucinelli on to have a
18:16
debate right where I was the pro-Trump
18:18
person and he was the pro-DeSantis person.
18:20
So just like take a listen to
18:22
that and think about when they're not
18:24
it's fair for the media to describe
18:26
him as an ex-Trump official. Take a
18:28
listen. Can
18:31
you commit tonight that none of the money
18:33
from the never back down super PAC will
18:35
be flipped to support the candidacy of Glenn
18:37
Youngkin in the event that you guys don't
18:40
see DeSantis as a good bet. You know
18:42
they didn't tell me they were bringing me
18:44
on for your conspiracy theories. Look this PAC
18:46
is committed. That's a fair question. Are you
18:48
going to use the money that way? No,
18:51
no it's not really. I mean not with
18:53
your 12 degrees of Kevin
18:55
Bacon. This we're committed. Wait a
18:57
second. You have the total control to be
18:59
able to direct that money. You don't think it's
19:01
a fair question to ask you where it's going? I'm
19:04
answering it aren't I? So it really doesn't matter. Again,
19:12
any connection that they can make to
19:14
Trump for any negative headline they
19:17
take an absurd
19:19
license to do so. So we
19:21
don't back the lawsuit. We don't back
19:23
the characterization and the tide of Trump.
19:25
I don't think anyone associated with President
19:27
Trump believes that what we really need
19:30
to do is create more of a golden parachute
19:32
for members of Congress. Another
19:35
story I want to bring to you
19:37
is the wave of illegal immigration that
19:39
continues to pound our country and particularly
19:41
the Sunshine State. St. Lucie County is
19:43
a small county in Florida. It's a
19:45
coastal county that is
19:47
right there on Highway 95 and
19:50
also is on the Atlantic
19:52
Ocean. And they are even
19:54
experiencing some pretty odd
19:57
circumstances. This report from St. Lucie County
19:59
and their terrific law enforcement officials, their
20:01
sheriff. Take a listen. I'm
20:06
St. Lucie County Sheriff Keith Pearson. Illegal
20:08
aliens aren't just flooding across our southern borders,
20:10
they're arriving all across South Florida beaches, including
20:12
right here in St. Lucie County. They are
20:14
undocumented and unbedded individuals whom we have no
20:17
idea what type of positive or negative impact
20:19
they could have on public safety of our
20:21
community or nation. Working with
20:23
immigration to enforce the law of the land,
20:25
our deputies helped with this interception. After
20:28
making sure there were no immediate medical needs, we
20:30
provided fresh water while they wait to be picked
20:32
up from the United States Coast Guard and processed.
20:34
Behind me, you see a vessel loaded with the migrants
20:37
that we're talking about. The men
20:39
and women of the St. Lucie County
20:41
Sheriff's Office will continue to monitor and
20:43
assist our federal partners to ensure we
20:45
protect our borders. And
20:50
we are proud of the men and
20:52
women of the St. Lucie Sheriff's Office
20:54
for doing this, but frankly, there should
20:57
be a force multiplier from the federal
20:59
government. We know we are facing a
21:01
mass wave of these Haitian migrants, and
21:03
if Joe Biden would declare the anticipated
21:05
mass maritime migration, we would have support
21:08
for folks like those brave public
21:10
servants that are working for the St. Lucie
21:12
County Sheriff's Office. Again, we thank you, we
21:14
salute you, and the federal government should be
21:16
doing a lot more to have your back.
21:18
And really, this immigration crisis takes so many
21:20
twists and turns and has so many tentacles.
21:23
I wanted to just bring you an
21:25
interesting perspective on how bad it's gotten.
21:27
And we get this story from the
21:29
terrific team at WEAR in
21:32
Pensacola, but the
21:34
illegal immigration and
21:37
the phony asylum process
21:39
has gotten so bad it's created
21:42
a cottage industry of
21:44
fraud feasers who go and act
21:46
as if they are the government or a
21:48
lawyer or helping you to make
21:51
your asylum claim when you come to the
21:53
country illegally, and then they end up grifting
21:55
the illegal aliens. So in this
21:57
story, you have a Honduran man living in
21:59
Pensacola. and he used a
22:01
massive immigration scheme to make $2.8 million. This
22:05
from the WEAR report, a Honduran
22:08
national living in Pensacola has been
22:10
sentenced to 9 years in federal
22:12
prison for orchestrating a massive immigration
22:14
fraud scheme involving over 425 victims
22:16
nationwide. Franklin
22:20
Javier Perez Rios, age 29, orchestrated
22:22
a fraud scheme from 2017 to 2023 in
22:26
which he claims to be able to
22:28
provide immigration related services to foreign nationals
22:30
living in the United States. He
22:32
posted at least, or he profited at least $2.8
22:35
million from victims according to the district
22:37
attorney's office which he used for gambling
22:40
and to fund a lavish lifestyle. Perez
22:42
Rios, who had no legitimate
22:44
qualifications, pretended at
22:46
various times to be a United States
22:49
government official, a former United States government
22:51
official, an immigration attorney, a paralegal, or
22:55
an immigration services personnel of some
22:57
other means. Perez Rios did
22:59
not obtain status for any of the
23:01
victims he promised. Rather, he routinely filed
23:03
asylum paperwork with USCIS on the victim's
23:06
behalf and told them they had to
23:08
travel to California with him where they
23:10
would be subjected to medical examinations and
23:12
vaccinations. Neither of the medical examinations
23:14
nor the trips to California were legitimately part
23:17
of the asylum process. For
23:19
other victims, Perez Rios filed no paperwork
23:21
on their behalf, and to keep victims
23:23
believing he was working on their behalf,
23:25
Perez Rios provided them with forged documentation
23:27
supposedly from the United States government. Again,
23:30
it's gotten so bad that you've
23:32
created a cottage industry of fraudsters
23:35
to go after the illegal aliens.
23:37
I never thought we'd be at this point,
23:39
but nonetheless, that's
23:42
where we are. We
23:44
had big testimony from General Mark Milley on
23:47
the Hill this week regarding the botched withdrawal
23:49
from Afghanistan. And one thing I found interesting,
23:51
like, you can always count on Mark Milley
23:54
to throw somebody under the bus. Right, I
23:56
mean, he took every occasion to throw Trump under the bus,
23:58
and now they're even throwing money. the Department of State
24:01
under the bus regarding the Afghanistan withdrawal. A lot
24:03
of shade being thrown at the Biden White House.
24:05
See if you can read them between the lines.
24:07
Take a listen. Number
24:11
of Americans. This was always an
24:13
issue. The number of
24:15
Americans, as General McKenzie said,
24:17
an F77 report is supposed, every ambassador
24:20
in every country of the world keeps an F77
24:22
report, and they're supposed to track the Americans, whether
24:24
at the phone numbers, address, etc., in the country.
24:27
That was always a difficult number for
24:29
us in the Department of Defense to
24:31
get ahold of, and I think it's true at the tactical
24:34
level and operational level as well. And
24:36
I'll be candid. I don't know the exact number
24:38
of Americans that were left behind because the starting
24:40
number was never clear. Same
24:43
is true of at-risk Afghans, SIVs,
24:45
the commandos, other Afghans that served
24:48
with us. Those
24:50
numbers varied so widely that
24:52
they were quite inaccurate. As
24:55
best I could tell at the time.
24:57
So I would just say,
25:01
I'm not sure, even today, about
25:03
the accuracy of all those numbers. I
25:06
think the call to execute the NEO came too
25:08
late, and as General
25:10
McKenzie mentioned, it was officially logged in
25:12
on the 14th. At that
25:14
point in time, the Afghan government senior leadership was
25:17
preparing to depart, and they departed the next day
25:19
on the 15th. The
25:21
thousands of Afghan civilians were gathering at
25:24
the airport. The Afghan security forces
25:26
were collapsing in the various provincial capitals, and
25:28
although there were some still in and around
25:31
Kabul. So the general situation at that point was
25:33
750 U.S. soldiers in and
25:35
around the embassy. The Turkish troops
25:38
were required, along with some ANSF, to
25:40
protect HKIA. They
25:43
melted away. So you had a situation with the
25:45
U.S. embassy and 750 troops when
25:47
that NEO was called. Now
25:50
we had leaned forward, so I think
25:52
it's the 9th, 10th, or 11th timeframe. We
25:54
had already put forces on alert, etc., but
25:57
in essence, we alerted Marshall, deployed 82nd and
25:59
3rd. Airborne Division, Division Ready Brigade,
26:02
and the Mu out of
26:04
Saudi that was underneath General McKenzie's control.
26:06
They rapidly deployed along with Special Forces
26:09
to take control of that airport. It
26:12
took two to three days. That's where those videos come
26:14
from. But they eventually rested control
26:16
of that airport. And General McKenzie, you
26:18
agree with that assessment? I
26:21
do. That reflects the opinion I had
26:23
at the time and the opinion I had now. Yeah,
26:25
I believe that accountability ensures mistakes of the past
26:28
are not repeated. From where
26:30
I sit, the President and
26:32
this administration refused to acknowledge
26:34
their failures. Our investigation
26:37
uncovered the White House refused
26:39
to listen to warnings about the
26:41
situation on the ground. Disturbingly,
26:43
we have uncovered that
26:46
State Department leadership prohibited its
26:48
employees from
26:51
even uttering the word NEO
26:54
shorthand for emergency
26:56
evacuation. Still
26:58
as late as August of 2021. Too
27:02
little, too late. We
27:07
are back live. Deanna on Facebook says, make
27:09
accountability great again indeed. And Joe on YouTube
27:12
asks, why does he look so bloated? Joe
27:14
help us out. Were you talking about me
27:16
or Millie? Because frankly, he looks bloated and
27:19
I feel a little bloated myself. This
27:21
week, we also had a chance in
27:24
the House Armed Services Committee to discuss
27:26
what is really going on with Taiwan.
27:28
And with a country so capable as
27:30
China with their ambition set on Taiwan,
27:32
what are the things we're actually doing
27:34
to try to deter that potential invasion
27:36
so that we don't get caught in
27:38
some war in Asia? I had the opportunity
27:40
to ask some of the top military leaders
27:43
about our Indo-Pacific strategy. Take a listen. Admiral
27:47
Och willing, during the Revolutionary War, I think
27:50
it was like 15% of Americans who
27:53
fought for liberty. Does that sound
27:55
about right? 15%,
27:57
20%? I couldn't answer that now.
28:00
Congressman I have to go back and look. I guess I'm
28:02
just kind of wondering in Taiwan what
28:04
percent of the Taiwanese do we
28:06
assess would actually fight in the
28:08
event of kinetic conflict with China.
28:12
Yeah I also don't have that calculation what
28:14
I can tell you is when
28:17
the Russians invaded Ukraine that was a pretty
28:20
good wake-up signal for a lot of people
28:23
across the globe and
28:25
especially for those people
28:28
on Taiwan and we continue
28:30
to execute our responsibilities under the Taiwan
28:32
Relations Act to ensure
28:34
we support their ability to defend themselves.
28:36
And does that act require the development
28:39
of a home guard in Taiwan? I'd
28:43
have to go back and look at the law.
28:45
I don't specifically know if that... I don't think
28:47
it does but maybe you could talk a little
28:49
bit about what what the home guard theory is
28:51
in Taiwan how that would enhance their capabilities. Well
28:54
again it's what the people
28:56
on Taiwan have done is they do have
28:58
a reserve activation program. President Tsai just extended
29:00
that to a one-year commitment. So
29:03
again when I talk about the Taiwan the
29:05
people on Taiwan taking it seriously they are
29:07
it includes that approach that you've just articulated.
29:09
Yeah and I almost think that's what it's
29:11
gonna take because I worry that the
29:13
Taiwanese military may be infiltrated by
29:15
the PLA and that if there's
29:17
really gonna be a deterrent for
29:19
a Chinese invasion that might
29:22
not come exclusively from the uniformed
29:24
military or even the reservists. We may have
29:26
to actually you know
29:29
render capability to the hundreds of
29:31
thousands of Taiwanese who don't want
29:33
to be part
29:35
of China right? Yeah your point is
29:38
valid and again I believe that that
29:40
approach is and actions are being
29:42
taken there. What I would say is the
29:44
example the best example that I think exists
29:47
is when Israel was
29:49
attacked by the violent extremists
29:51
in Hamas the
29:53
next day 360,000 Israelis reported for duty. That's
30:00
the type of response that I believe.
30:02
But I worry that we conflate the
30:04
cultural features there, right? Because what I
30:06
worry about in Taiwan is kind of
30:09
a replay of Afghanistan, where we
30:11
look at some fake government
30:14
and we do the
30:16
normal kind of DOD thing
30:18
of large weapon systems. And
30:22
then we give them to that government. And
30:24
then the real governing power, in
30:26
Afghanistan's case, the Taliban, in Taiwan's
30:28
case, perhaps China, has the
30:30
ability to then repurpose those assets against
30:33
the United States. So it just seems to
30:35
me, I mean, you are the guy, you're
30:37
the person in charge of this
30:40
theater. I think you need
30:42
to know, you need to have some sort of
30:44
assessment as to whether or not you're going to
30:46
get that Israel level response from
30:48
the Taiwanese. What percentage of
30:50
this group of people is going to stand up
30:53
and fight? And sure, we're all continuously informed by
30:55
events going on around the world. But
30:58
in Taiwan specifically, we've seen
31:00
cases where the PLA is infiltrating
31:02
their government, their military. And
31:05
I don't offer that as some sort of criticism. Heck,
31:07
I think they try to infiltrate our government and our
31:10
military too. But
31:12
I worry whether or not we're
31:14
going to be able to rely on the uniformed
31:16
service there. So is there a plan at DOD
31:18
to kind of make these assessments about a home
31:20
guard and ensure that you
31:23
have small arms in the hands of these
31:25
people that might deter a Chinese invasion? Congressman,
31:28
there absolutely is. And I'd love to talk to you
31:30
about it in a classified setting. Great know
31:33
it's good to know. And is
31:36
that consistent with this porcupine theory that
31:38
we think about often with Taiwan?
31:44
I don't use the term porcupine theory. A lot of
31:46
people do. What I would. Why don't you use it?
31:48
I hear it a lot on this committee. Well, again,
31:50
I would articulate it in a way that is in
31:53
alignment with the law, which is we're providing the
31:55
people on Taiwan the ability, capability and
31:57
training to be able to defend themselves.
31:59
in time of conflict. That
32:01
by itself with regard to a strong
32:05
Taiwan sets of capabilities is a strong deterrent.
32:07
Yeah I just think this is a real
32:09
important piece of the homework to emanate from
32:11
this is to you've talked about
32:13
the Taiwan Security Engagement Act I get
32:15
that but I think you
32:17
and I are both a little unclear as
32:20
the extent to which that authorizes the work
32:22
with the home guard that we really need
32:24
to convert Taiwan into an effective
32:26
porcupine because I assess that
32:28
this is all about time. China
32:31
cannot endure an extended war with
32:33
Taiwan. They can't endure the sanctions,
32:35
they can't endure the other consequences and so if
32:37
we can demonstrate to them that that's going to
32:39
be a longer period of time I think that
32:41
pushes out the you know
32:43
the inevitability of a kinetic conflict with China. I
32:46
appreciate the exchange Mr. Chairman I yield back. And
32:50
we are back live there's a MTG
32:53
for speaker sentiment on
32:55
the live chat one man
32:57
wouldn't that be something I would be here
32:59
for the MTG for speaker experience no doubt
33:02
PK on YouTube asks how can I work
33:04
with the hundred and one Republicans who voted
33:06
for this bad bill and honestly it's not
33:08
that easy and they for
33:10
whatever dislike I have for that
33:13
vote they probably have plenty
33:15
of dislike directed back at me but the
33:17
difference is when I do things that folks
33:19
don't like in Washington they don't
33:22
like it because it makes them
33:24
uncomfortable it disrupts their fundraising and
33:27
their progression to power and
33:29
leadership and when the establishment does
33:31
things that I don't like it's
33:33
not like to me it's to the
33:35
country it's to every person paying higher
33:38
prices it's to the
33:40
next generation of Americans that will be
33:42
saddled with an unprecedented amount of debt
33:44
because we're unwilling to confront the challenges
33:46
that face us so we're gonna stay
33:48
on it this next two weeks is
33:50
going to be very critical I'm gonna
33:53
be traveling around the country doing a
33:55
lot of work with policymakers with
33:57
with thought leaders and doing some stuff that I
33:59
can exactly talking about on this platform, but
34:01
it's going to be important work. It's going to
34:03
be central to how we get a House of
34:06
Representatives that is actually willing to fight for we
34:08
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34:10
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