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91 Congressman, Mac Gates. Mac

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Gates was one of the very few members in the entire

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Congress who bothered to stand up against

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permanent Washington on behalf of his

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constituents. Man Gates right now. He's a

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problem. He's a democratic 91, and he could

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cause a lot hiccups in 91

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laws. So we're gonna keep running my stories

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to get ready again. If you stand

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for the plaid and kneel and prayer,

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not burn her is

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brown, 91 welcome my fellow

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patriots. You are in the right place.

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This is the movement for you. You

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ever watch this guy in television?

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It's like a machine. Matt Gates.

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I'm a canceled man in some corners

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of the Internet. Many days, I'm 91 marked

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man in 91, a wanted man by

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the state? They aren't really coming

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for me. They're coming for you.

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I'm just in the way. Welcome

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back to Firebrand. We are broadcasting live

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out of room twenty twenty one of the Raven

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House 91 building here in Washington

1:02

DC, our nation's capital And

1:04

today's episode is gonna bring you

1:06

behind the scenes into the negotiations

1:09

and the specific policy

1:11

prescriptions for this border crisis.

1:13

Now we know we're gonna get no help from

1:15

the democrats at all, so it's critical

1:17

to know what the leading Republicans are

1:20

thinking where the pushback is coming

1:22

from, what we think we can do, where

1:24

we see poison pills

1:26

in red lines, chip Roy,

1:28

the author of some of the best legislation

1:31

to deal with the border 91, joins

1:34

Firebrand. We're gonna have a great discussion

1:36

for you. And we have got folks tuning in

1:38

from everywhere 91 during our

1:41

preview. Folks checked in from

1:43

Texas, Alaska. A lot of people from

1:45

Ohio, Missouri, had some

1:47

New Yorkers, Pennsylvania, a Californian,

1:50

Oklahoma, 91, and 91 course,

1:53

the best state in the country, the Sunshine

1:55

State. My home state of Florida.

1:58

So last week, I left Florida,

2:00

went to Yuma, Arizona, where

2:02

the House Judiciary Committee held a field hearing

2:05

on the condition of the border. And

2:08

Americans living on the border

2:10

are tired of being neglected they

2:13

want their voices heard. And before the hearing,

2:16

we had this opportunity

2:18

to get a grasp of the situation on

2:20

the ground how services

2:22

were stretched, how people were treated. And

2:25

we visited the border itself, a

2:27

hospital, a food bank. And

2:29

believe me 91 I discovered will

2:32

absolutely shock you or even will it

2:34

anymore with how much we've seen

2:36

our border turned into a a turn style

2:39

millions of people here without

2:41

permission or process. When

2:43

we went, the first thing we did when I landed

2:45

in Yuma was tour the regional hospital.

2:48

Now, you've heard Democrats talk

2:50

about hospital access 91 health

2:53

care and a whole lot of elections, but

2:55

they don't seem to mind when

2:57

the hospitals are overrun by illegals in

2:59

communities on the front line of this crisis,

3:01

and that's exactly what was going on

3:03

in Yuma, Arizona. Newborn

3:06

babies are not getting the

3:08

care that they need to stay

3:10

alive because illegal immigrants

3:13

are clogging up the hospital. These illegals

3:15

are coming in sick with some

3:17

diseases that we didn't even know

3:19

existed in the United States anymore.

3:21

And they're speaking so many different

3:23

languages. It is not just Spanish anymore.

3:26

It's like the United Nations down there, and

3:28

the hospital has to divert

3:30

time from patients to

3:32

go find translators for every

3:34

language under the sun, from Russian

3:37

to ceramic, to 91, you name

3:39

it. Nineteen hundred

3:41

migrants were treated during the

3:43

last surge at just this one hospital

3:45

in Yuma, and many of them were

3:47

admitted due to pregnancy.

3:51

These illegals are coming in pregnant 91

3:54

so that they can have anchor babies and

3:57

take advantage of our entitlement systems.

4:00

In fact, the Mexican illegals

4:02

in particular like to cross the border have

4:05

their babies in America, then

4:07

go back and live in Mexico where

4:10

it's cheaper, all

4:12

the while sending their kids to our schools,

4:15

collecting our welfare, utilizing

4:19

all of the privileges that we ought to

4:21

preciously hold for Americans.

4:25

Now, the cartels do this a

4:27

lot. They actually go have their

4:29

91 sitas have the next generation

4:31

of cartel talent born in

4:33

our country. And some

4:35

of these kids, these 91,

4:38

these miners that are going from Mexico to

4:40

the United States are carrying and smuggling

4:42

fentanyl because they know if

4:44

they have not reached the age of majority 91

4:47

be a different penalty structure, so

4:49

they bake that into their business plan. This

4:52

is why I am going to lead

4:54

the fight in the Congress to end

4:56

birthright citizenship by fraud.

4:59

And a lot of Republicans don't talk like that,

5:01

but president Trump did and he was

5:03

right. Birthright citizenship

5:06

is not this universally accepted

5:08

construct in the western world. It just

5:10

isn't. And we ought to protect and

5:12

care about our birthright so much

5:15

that we don't just hand it out, willy

5:17

nilly. Americans

5:19

continue to see our citizenship that

5:23

is precious, 91.

5:25

And this happens as our services are

5:27

strained. The hospital

5:30

beds that these 91 are taking are forcing

5:32

American mothers to either

5:34

wait to give birth in cases where you have

5:36

a scheduled inducement or

5:39

have babies at home? Terrible.

5:42

These Americans are paying taxes

5:44

oftentimes to support the health care in

5:46

their communities. 91 yet

5:49

it's being overrun. Now

5:52

91 hospital we visited doesn't have

5:54

enough neonatal intensive

5:56

care unit beds to support

5:59

all of the illegal alien babies

6:03

91 the babies who

6:06

are there as a consequence of the citizens and

6:08

legal residents of Yuma. That

6:11

is because twenty five percent

6:13

of illegal births and

6:15

up in the NICU. Let me say that again.

6:18

Twenty five percent of

6:20

the births that these illegal migrants are

6:23

are having an gauge didn't twenty five percent

6:25

91 in four require the NICU.

6:28

That's really something way

6:30

higher 91 than the

6:33

average that we see as the

6:35

standard of care in the United States. This

6:37

is why some NICU babies are

6:39

being sent hours away to the closest hospital

6:41

all the way in Phoenix. It's a hundred and seventy miles

6:44

away. So just imagine the fear

6:46

and the wave of emotion that

6:48

parents have to go through when

6:50

they're traveling 91

6:53

hundred and seventy miles away to a

6:55

NICU bed in Phoenix. I

6:57

cannot imagine putting

6:59

people in such a vulnerable situation

7:02

in life itself in a worse position.

7:05

So watch this clip from our field hearing

7:07

where we discuss the NICU situation

7:10

with the president of the Yuma Regional

7:12

Medical Center, doctor Robert

7:14

Trenchol 91. Now,

7:18

Dr. Trenchill, about one in four of

7:20

the migrants who use birthing

7:22

services at your hospital need

7:24

neonatal intensive care unit services,

7:26

NICU. Right? That is true. Yes. And that

7:29

rate, one in four, is way higher

7:31

than with the non migrant population. Right?

7:33

Very much higher. You Gaetz about twenty beds

7:35

at any given time. Correct. And they fill up

7:37

sometimes, don't they? Yes. And so when you have

7:40

those beds that are full up

7:42

because of the pressure of these migrant communities,

7:44

Where do you have to send the residents

7:47

of Yuma when they have a baby

7:50

that needs

7:50

NICU?

7:51

We would have to fly them to Phoenix or another

7:53

venue. And that's a hundred and seventy

7:55

miles 91. Yes, it is. There there

7:57

is there is there are

7:59

few prayers that I have ever seen

8:01

more sincere and deeper than

8:03

the prayers of parents when their

8:05

little babies are at the NICU. And

8:08

for all the folks on left who want to lecture

8:10

to us about how humane an

8:12

open border is. There is nothing

8:14

humane about putting a parent on a

8:16

hundred and seventy mile journey when they need

8:18

NICU services. So

8:23

we're back live in just one

8:25

hospital in Yuma alone, there's twenty six

8:27

million dollars in uncompensated care

8:30

that the hospital just has to eat as a consequence

8:32

of these illegal aliens. Who

8:35

knows? How many Americans haven't

8:37

gotten the care that they need to

8:40

stay 91. Why

8:42

should Americans pay astronomically high

8:44

hospital bills when illegals are getting treated

8:46

for free? They don't even get a bill.

8:48

They just go in 91 it's socialized medicine

8:51

for them. It's

8:53

not sustainable and it's not

8:55

fair. Misguided

8:57

charities also play their role.

9:00

They're getting illegal aliens into

9:02

the hospital, and then their work is done.

9:04

They just ditched them. They're not part of

9:06

the cost structure or the finance structure. They

9:09

just bring illegal aliens to the hospital,

9:11

dump them off there. The hospital staff

9:13

told me that they're having to take extra

9:16

shifts because they are so overwhelmed by

9:18

this phenomenon. And part of the reason they're so

9:20

overburden is because they aren't

9:22

allowed to discharge illegal

9:25

alien patients when there

9:27

is follow-up care or outpatient care

9:29

needed. That's because we don't know where

9:31

the migrants will show up next. So

9:33

think about that. Two 91, patient

9:35

a, patient b. They both present

9:37

precisely the same symptoms Gaetz

9:40

exactly the same parent and they would both be ready

9:42

for discharge. They'll discharge

9:45

the non illegal alien But

9:48

if there's, like, a two or three day follow-up

9:50

that's medically necessary afterwards, they

9:53

don't really believe that the illegal alien

9:55

maybe is gonna come back or whatever. They

9:57

don't 91 get sued for not providing aftercare,

9:59

so they will keep that person in the hospital

10:01

bed. Meaning that it's not available

10:05

for an American citizen. And

10:07

all the while, we're bending over backwards

10:10

for 91. I'm told 91

10:12

stories of how ungrateful some of

10:15

them are, not all, but some. Time

10:17

and again, I heard stories in Yuma that

10:20

some of the rejections that are crossing

10:22

our southern border are behaving the

10:24

worst. They demand

10:27

that the hospital staff in some cases

10:29

secure their travel to a destination of

10:31

their choice. It's not

10:33

like it's not a

10:36

travel agency. It's a hospital. Some

10:38

of these Haitian immigrants have even

10:40

threatened cab drivers. They destroy the

10:43

motels and hospitals that had

10:45

been resourced for them. 91

10:47

thing about that, the hospital goes

10:50

91 they're treating a family member. They

10:52

get a motel or hotel bed for other

10:54

family members. And they go and trash the police.

10:56

I'm starting to understand why Haiti is such a

10:58

mess, but the tip trip did not

11:00

end there. Next, we visited a

11:02

food bank and we met with the chairwoman

11:04

of the food bank 91 local farmers that

11:06

were generous enough to donate their

11:09

extra crop to this nonprofit out

11:11

of community service in duty and obligation.

11:14

The chairwoman in this food bank started

11:16

off telling us how ungrateful

11:19

so

11:19

many of the migrants are. Apparently, the migrants

11:21

are picky about the type of food

11:23

they 91 to eat and how much they Gaetz?

11:25

Unsurprisingly, oftentimes,

11:29

we were told that it's the haitians

11:31

who are the worst offenders again.

11:34

Everywhere they go,

11:37

we seem to hear similar complaints. Meanwhile,

11:40

as if dealing with this mess wasn't enough

11:42

for the food bank, they're understaffed. And

11:45

I kept thinking, an obvious good solution

11:47

here would be to have work requirements.

11:49

So people are able to provide something

11:52

to contribute or

11:54

help that they should get

11:57

the benefit of that

11:59

holistic engagement with the food

12:01

bank. I think 91

12:03

If you want other people to pay for your Medicaid

12:06

or your snap or your food stamps

12:08

or whatever, there should be

12:10

work requirements for able-bodied 91.

12:13

Not the sick, not the infirm, not senior

12:16

citizens, but like able-bodied adults

12:18

who want help from others that

12:20

are able to volunteer at 91 food bank

12:23

like the one I went to in Yuma,

12:25

Arizona, should do so. Mexico

12:28

has work requirements. 91.

12:31

So why can't we? You want

12:33

food from the food bank? Get

12:35

to work. 91

12:37

the poor farmers we met with, oh my gosh.

12:40

They tell me that they

12:43

have to destroy massive amounts of

12:45

crop every season because

12:47

illegal aliens tread through

12:49

their fields and defecate

12:51

everywhere. When even

12:53

so much as a human footprint is found,

12:56

these farmers have to destroy all the crops

12:59

in a five foot radius. They

13:01

put up no trespassing signs, but

13:03

of course, that doesn't stop illegal immigration.

13:06

91 people across the border 91 don't have

13:08

much respect for private property rights,

13:10

I can assure you of that. The

13:12

Biden administration and 91 of Myorges

13:15

need to step up and protect our farmers

13:17

and our food supply 91 the safety of what

13:19

we're eating. Chances are if you're eating

13:21

a green leafy vegetable that grows

13:24

during the winter months, you're probably eating

13:26

something farmed around our southern

13:28

border. This is not a joke, and

13:31

it our current administration is treating

13:33

it like one. Now, for

13:35

the grand finale, we visited the border

13:37

itself, and it too was shocking.

13:39

We headed out at about three AM and immediately

13:43

ran into a large group of illegals

13:45

being processed at a gap in our

13:47

wall. Now why would there be a gap in the

13:49

wall? It's because we're 91

13:52

Trump's wall runs right up to

13:54

an Indian reservation. And

13:56

lo and behold, we add a recalcitrant Indian

13:59

tribe that said no wall

14:02

through the area that joins our 91.

14:04

And the result is that we know

14:06

where to go every night where we're 91 find

14:09

hundreds of people coming through a drop house.

14:11

Now these weren't Mexicans? They

14:14

were 91 Americans 91,

14:17

Dominicans, 91, and

14:21

others. This is

14:23

new. I had not seen a whole lot of Chinese

14:26

in the migrant populations previously.

14:29

Now 91 patrol agents were telling me that

14:31

nine out of every ten groups

14:33

has someone from China. Think about

14:36

that. Watch this footage that we took

14:38

that night in 91, listen to what

14:40

we

14:40

uncover. Play the clip.

14:57

So we're hearing from the water patrol that

14:59

these groups are never homogenous.

15:02

It's never all from one country.

15:04

Here, you've got people from South

15:07

America. 91

15:16

got folks from Asia, China?

15:18

China. 91? Beijing,

15:21

we're we're from China.

15:27

91 Hong Kong flying

15:30

to Turkey. And then

15:32

following 91 South America.

15:35

So they went from from China to Turkey

15:37

-- Yeah. -- to South America? Yeah.

15:39

91 these folks look like they've had a a particularly

15:42

91 track. What you'd

15:44

say, a lot of times, these are three to five days

15:47

91. They fly from their country

15:49

of origin to Mexico City, Mexico City

15:51

to Mexico. Some of them actually fly to Tijuana

15:54

and then they take in Hoover. That's where the majority of the Russians

15:56

are going. It's a better flight. 91

15:58

this side, there's a large date growth

16:01

of trees right there inside of that

16:03

is one of the the drop houses. And

16:05

so they will come from the Mexicali airport.

16:07

They right 91, then we're crossing the Dean

16:09

groups. How many

16:13

people do you think of a process do that drop?

16:15

Because you 91 I've been to this exact spot.

16:17

Five hundred thousand people 91

16:20

one little At a at minimum of six thousand

16:22

dollars a person. Right? At

16:25

a minimum. Doesn't

16:33

you on this. It's about seventy seven thousand

16:35

is what they paid. Seventy seven

16:37

thousand?

16:37

Yeah. That's a lot of money.

16:39

That's a lot of money.

16:47

91. Yeah. In case you're live.

16:50

Yeah. Sorry that for

16:52

you. Don't that? Miami Beach, Florida

16:54

Beach?

16:55

Yeah. It's at

16:55

Florida Beach. Yes? That

16:58

is. 91

16:59

does a sheet of paper everyone seems to be holding?

17:01

They all seem to be holding kind of a similar

17:03

-- Yeah. -- paper 91. I know. Probably

17:05

is that travel itinerary, so

17:08

they can prove it would have been because this is,

17:10

hey, we just got here. We haven't been

17:12

in a same

17:13

91. Are these people all gonna say,

17:15

I'm certain asylum.

17:17

Only thirty five percent the cleaning asylum.

17:19

So what are the rest of the rest of the memory 91? What's

17:22

the permission structure to allow the rest to

17:24

to beat the tangle on me. We should

17:26

ask 91 president. And

17:28

how many hours will most of these people

17:31

be roll to me in in forty eight hours.

17:33

Forty eight hours ever I mean, the hundred

17:36

plus 91 that you see here would be

17:38

walking among our fellow Americans.

17:46

We are back live. The livestream was

17:49

fired up with that report. Peter

17:51

on Facebook has seen enough and

17:53

wants to see articles of impeachment.

17:56

I think he's talking about Joe Biden.

17:58

91 certainly, my orcas deserves impeachment,

18:00

but I'll give you the tea. We

18:02

do not have the votes to impeach Joe

18:05

Biden or my orcas right now. We have a

18:07

four seat majority And if there's

18:09

going to be a sincere impeachment

18:11

effort regarding the border, and by the way

18:13

there should be, the American people

18:16

have to get on their members of congress and

18:18

on their senators to indicate

18:20

that that is their demand 91 their people

18:22

have to demand that or it will not 91. Washington

18:25

will not generate that outcome. Ed

18:27

on 91 says finish the

18:29

wall. And one thing I could tell you,

18:31

you didn't see these massive

18:33

groups of hundreds of people coming where there

18:36

was wall. The wall

18:38

and the wheel, the two things that will never go

18:40

out of style. Now, what's interesting

18:42

from that video, you will see, is

18:44

that these were not poor 91 masses

18:47

91 to breathe free air. These are people

18:49

wearing designer jackets, nice

18:51

shoes. They paid tens of thousands of dollars

18:53

to cartels to be allowed to cross.

18:55

These illegals likely

18:58

flew into Mexico several

19:00

days before 91 Uber

19:03

91 a cartel's stash house before they crossed.

19:05

That is how broken our system is.

19:08

91 these aren't even the worst of the illegals.

19:11

Border 91 tells me that

19:13

some illegals who can't afford the trip

19:16

are forced to have to make a deal with

19:18

the cartel. Maybe they have to

19:20

carry 91. Maybe they have to become unindentered

19:23

servants after they cross. Some

19:25

are even raped to exact

19:28

that last toll before they cross.

19:31

When we do not secure our border, we

19:33

are perpetrating rape

19:36

and smuggling and human

19:38

slavery. And

19:40

the funny thing is securing our border

19:42

shouldn't be hard. It

19:44

isn't for a whole lot of countries

19:47

on the planet Earth. 91 Biden

19:49

administration has turned the border patrol

19:51

into a concierge service

19:53

for illegal aliens. They

19:55

meet the illegals at the border. 91

19:58

them into the country, give them paperwork

20:00

that allows them to get a job and

20:02

work, and they let them

20:04

loose in our neighborhoods and in our community.

20:06

70s. The only thing stopping border patrol

20:09

from doing their job and securing their border

20:11

is the political will of political leaders

20:14

because the people who work

20:17

at border patrol, they have

20:19

patriotism and will 91

20:21

determination to get the job done. But

20:23

we have them shackled to

20:26

a broken system. Homeland

20:28

security secretary Alejandra Myorges told

20:30

local leaders that he would plug

20:32

the gaps in the wall. And secure the

20:34

border. But apparently, that was

20:36

just talk. Listen to this exchange I

20:38

had with the supervisor of

20:41

district two in Yuma County Jonathan

20:43

Lyons. Take a listen.

20:46

Supervisor 91, we hear

20:49

91 Myorges. Come to us

20:51

all the time on the judiciary committee 91 testify

20:54

that the most important

20:56

partnerships 91 all else

20:58

for the Department of Homeland Security are

21:01

the partnerships with local officials.

21:03

We hear it time and again. And so here

21:06

is my simple question for you.

21:08

Has secretary of my arcus ever

21:10

lied to

21:10

you? Yes. And

21:13

what was the substance of that lie?

21:15

So the mayor and I had the opportunity to

21:18

visit with secretary 91 and

21:21

the human sector chief as well as

21:23

the chief of the entire

21:25

border 91. Sector headquarters almost

21:28

a year ago. And during that meeting,

21:30

he committed to after reviewing

21:32

the border, both from the ground and

21:34

the air to specifically address,

21:37

quote

21:38

unquote, nine of the eleven Yuma

21:40

Gaetz.

21:42

And how many of those gaps have been addressed To

21:44

date so far? 91. We

21:47

see infrastructure on two

21:49

91 yet they will not deter

21:51

anyone.

21:52

This is my fourth time here with you. I think

21:54

if I come

21:54

any more often, I'm gonna be eligible to vote in you,

21:57

McKay.

21:57

Thank

21:57

you for cutting things. For coming back. But

21:59

but in in the circumstances. It

22:02

seems as though it's not a great mystery

22:04

where the pressure points are, where we have

22:06

gaps in the wall, and where we have recalcitrant

22:09

tribes. And so in in those circumstances,

22:12

should we observe that this is

22:15

a a lack of capability or a lack

22:18

of will to go and plug those

22:19

holes. A lack of oil. We've followed up multiple

22:22

times as well as the 91, border

22:25

patrol staff. 91

22:27

with undersecretaries 91 we were told

22:29

time and time again that they were issuing

22:31

contracts that we would have it no later than

22:34

June of last year than no later than September

22:36

than no later than

22:37

November. Every time it kept getting

22:39

pushed out, why would a

22:41

reasonable person observe that this

22:43

is on purpose. My wife says I'm not

22:45

a very patient person, but I was patient

22:47

every time that they that I called. 91

22:50

they continued to push this

22:53

process out. It's

22:55

not reasonable. Well, the American people are

22:57

losing their patience we ought to be losing

22:59

ours. And while we greatly appreciate

23:01

the three of you being here to answer our questions,

23:04

the day will come soon when 91 Myorges

23:07

has to come in answer our questions and

23:09

to my colleagues. If he'll lie

23:11

to mister 91 and lie to the community

23:14

here, then he will lie to us and he will

23:16

lie to the American people 91 that's why

23:18

I'm very proud to co sponsor 91

23:20

Biggs' articles of impeachment against secretary

23:23

of my 91 because this is not a

23:25

lack of ability. It is a lack

23:27

of will. There

23:31

you have it. My 91 lied

23:33

through his teeth. He has no intention of doing

23:36

this job. So 91 needs to do its

23:38

job and impeach him We need to

23:40

hold the executive branch accountable

23:43

for real. Lives and livelihoods

23:46

are at stake. Think about those parents who

23:48

can't get access to their NICU beds if

23:50

nothing else. The crisis at

23:52

our southern border is unsustainable. It's

23:55

time we found the will to put a stop

23:57

to the madness and we need to secure our borders

24:00

91 we must do it immediately. The

24:02

time to act has, 91

24:04

passed, and any 91 who

24:07

refuses to do our critical

24:09

oversight work is

24:11

certainly not serving the interests of

24:14

their constituents. Now one member who is

24:16

is my good friend, 91 Chip

24:18

Roy of Texas, and there's

24:20

specific legislation. So in the first

24:22

part of the show here, we've gone through the problem

24:25

laying it out, where the blame lies,

24:27

91 the consequences are, but I want you

24:29

to get an understanding of what the possible

24:31

solutions are, who's backing them, and

24:33

who's standing in the way. This is my conversation

24:36

moments ago with Chip Roy of Texas.

24:41

We're here with Chip Roy of Texas.

24:43

Congressman Roy described the alleged slation

24:45

you have put forward to deal with this border

24:47

crisis. Yeah. Great to be with you, Matt. Thanks for everything

24:49

you do. I put together a bill

24:51

last year in the last congress. I introduced it

24:53

last fall. It is in

24:55

this 91 HR twenty nine. And

24:58

the the bill's purpose was actually

25:00

to try to capitalize on 91

25:03

fact that all Republicans seem to agree that we

25:05

should enforce 91 forty two during 91 pandemic.

25:08

So my thinking was, why should that

25:10

be limited to pandemic? Right? Why

25:12

don't we want to have the secretary of homeland

25:14

91, have the power to

25:16

be able to say, hey, if we've got 91 flood

25:18

at our border, Maybe we should be able to say

25:21

we can use the same power that we were

25:23

using under title forty two 91 that

25:25

president Trump very successfully used

25:27

in his administration 91 turn

25:30

away at the border unless you've

25:33

got the capacity in the beds and the ability

25:35

to process asylum claim. That's

25:37

it. It's an end encounter

25:39

and release bill. It's a follow existing

25:42

laws bill. And the vast

25:44

majority Republicans and certainly are 91 fully

25:46

support it. handful that raises

25:49

some questions and hopefully we'll go through regular order

25:51

and committees.

25:51

Yeah. No. I I wanna understand the objections 91 lay

25:53

them out in a moment. But but first, so everyone gets

25:55

it. Is it fair to assume then that if

25:57

the royal legislation were law

25:59

-- Mhmm. -- that everyone we encountered

26:01

at the

26:01

border, we would either detain or

26:04

turn 91. Correct. And 91, I wanna

26:06

be very clear. That is analogous to

26:08

how we're enforcing 91 forty two

26:11

under the pandemic laws. 91

26:13

also inconsistent with what President

26:15

Trump was doing with respect to the return to Mexico

26:18

91 protection protocols, saying,

26:20

hey, if we're not 91 be able to process

26:22

you, you're gonna stay there. And then

26:24

we'll do the best we can to process you. And guess

26:26

what? The numbers plummeted. Yeah. If we

26:28

had detain or turn 91, how

26:31

would Mexico

26:31

respond?

26:32

They let everyone just traverse their their country.

26:34

Of course not. Of course not. And and and by the

26:36

way, when they say, well, Mexico wouldn't agree to do this.

26:38

Of course, they would, if we say so, Right? That's what President

26:41

Trump did. He basically told him, hey,

26:43

we're gonna actually affect trade

26:45

policy. We could say, for example, we're

26:47

gonna shut down, you know, traffic coming

26:49

across I thirty five in Texas or the gas

26:51

lines or whatever you wanna 91, and get

26:54

Mexico to the table but they'll do it. They

26:56

have to do it. And and at the end of the

26:58

day, it would be better for 91. It would be better

27:00

for Americans. I'm seeing sick and tired

27:02

of Americans dying from fentanyl. And

27:04

little girls and little kids getting sold into the

27:06

sex

27:07

trafficking, human trafficking trade because we 91 to

27:09

do our job.

27:11

Do you do you think that

27:13

the detainer turn away policy gets

27:15

communicated internally with the cartels

27:18

91 the human trafficking networks. Of course.

27:20

Because here's the thing. 91

27:22

and and the human beings involved. Who's gonna

27:24

wanna pay five thousand dollars or ten thousand

27:26

dollars to a cartel? To be transported

27:29

up to the border, to then be told

27:31

sorry. You can't come in and claim asylum

27:33

and get released. They're in fact going to go through

27:36

the whole effort of processing it. We

27:38

just got data that 91 fiscal

27:40

year twenty when they looked at all the reports,

27:42

that it was about ten percent of

27:44

the total that had any kind of asylum

27:47

claim that would that 91 them to come in. 91

27:49

that's probably a pretty liberal interpretation

27:52

of, to be honest. But at the end of the

27:54

day, there are people who deserve it. For example,

27:56

I was in South 91. And I got picked up

27:58

on an Uber. Nice guy. You heard me on an interview

28:00

with AP talking about HR twenty nine and asylum.

28:03

And so I I hang 91, and he goes,

28:05

well, so, you know, what what what was that all about?

28:07

And I I said, well, 91 about silent

28:09

policy. And he said to me, I came

28:11

from Venezuela. I was in the military

28:14

in Venezuela. I came to United States

28:16

three years ago with my wife and two kids. While

28:18

I was here, my friend in the military

28:20

who was 91 the government like I was

28:22

was beheaded and killed. He

28:25

then claimed asylum. You know what?

28:27

That's what it's for. They when someone

28:29

you know is gonna be persecuted, they're gonna be

28:31

targeted by government for their political beliefs or religious

28:33

91. You and I both believe and Americans

28:36

believe 91 country help them.

28:38

It is not a come here flood into

28:40

the country, turn our country upside down,

28:42

and then make Amokri the entire rule

28:45

of law. That guy's name was Daniel. He

28:47

asked me, what do you do? I said, I'm in Congress. He goes,

28:49

you're 91 or Democrat. I

28:50

said, republican. He put a thumbs up. He said,

28:52

good. 91 he goes, you've protect this

28:54

country because where else would I go? Some

28:57

of our Republican colleagues have said that your

28:59

turn away or detained policy Gaetz

29:02

91. And it doesn't provide asylum for

29:04

people who are worthy. And that's

29:06

the reason we have 91, Texas

29:09

Republicans, matter of fact, saying that they're not

29:11

going to vote for your bill for that reason. What's

29:13

your

29:13

response? Well, it's Texas Republic

29:16

91. It's one. But what the response

29:18

is simply this. It doesn't touch asylum

29:21

law. It doesn't. It doesn't change the

29:23

existing laws whatsoever with respect to

29:25

someone being able to claim come to this country and

29:27

claim asylum. What it does is simply

29:29

says, you cannot be released

29:31

into the United States until 91

29:33

unless we adjudicate your claim

29:35

for 91.

29:36

This summer, it's three. So right now, if someone

29:38

show the people who show up tonight --

29:40

Right. -- at Eagle Pass -- Right. -- and come across they'll

29:43

all say, we're, you know, we're here for our official protection.

29:45

Right. 91 what you're under the Roy

29:48

doctrine -- Right. -- it would we'd say,

29:50

okay, very well. So you go wait

29:52

to in Mexico --

29:53

Correct. -- or some other say third country -- Yep. -- for

29:55

that assessment to be made. Correct. Or until we

29:57

have the judges lined 91, if that's in three months

29:59

or six months, you know, we'll pull you in 91 we'll

30:02

we'll then make your claim and and process it.

30:04

91 look, what would here's the truth, though.

30:06

The numbers would drop precipitously 91

30:09

that the people who have legitimate claims

30:11

would still be able to come here and find a

30:13

bed. Yeah. In a lot of

30:14

ways, the people with legitimate 91

30:16

claims are the victims an over

30:18

flooded system

30:19

where they can never get that 91. Because

30:21

you've got people who I mean, let's face it. For

30:23

most of our lives, people have come to the United

30:25

States across the southern border for fundamentally the

30:27

same

30:27

reason. Life where they live is not as good

30:29

as life at here. Correct? And you know what? God bless

30:32

him for it. And neither of you know what? But I don't

30:34

blame them. No. I blame us. And

30:36

by the way, by doing what we're doing, we're

30:38

weakening our fellow neighbors in the in

30:41

in 91 America and South America 91 the Western

30:43

Hemisphere. We should be ex sporting the rule of

30:45

law, having a strong world in the western

30:47

hemisphere, that would push back on China

30:49

without having to have endless wars abroad in

30:51

the name of who knows what, 91 we should

30:53

have a strong border for our betterment and

30:55

their betterment and migrants betterment. This

30:58

is frankly, it's much to do about nothing.

31:00

91 people are trying to wrongly claim things

31:03

about this bill that are scaring people

31:05

away and it's

31:06

91. And that's the way this town works. So let's talk

31:08

about the Republican strategy on this because

31:10

I would put up your bill -- Mhmm.

31:12

-- and I would be willing to allow it to fail.

31:15

Yep. Even if didn't have the votes. And you know it 91,

31:17

we probably don't. To be honest, we probably do not

31:19

have the votes to pass your bill. But I would

31:21

like the American people to see who

31:23

is willing to vote for detain or turn

31:25

away -- Correct. -- where the objections then

31:27

let's suss those out. And you know what if we have to come back

31:30

in a few weeks or a few months and and

31:32

attempt another bill, then we'll have to do that.

31:34

Correct. Why will that not

31:36

happen? Well, I'm it's still

31:38

I'm so hopeful that it could

31:39

happen, but I think it's because in this

31:41

town, everybody's always looking to figure

31:43

out how they can get, you know, the perfect scenario.

31:46

We only 91 put forward things that everybody

31:48

can vote for because it might hurt them in an election.

31:50

Rather than saying, look, we just wanna advance

31:52

good policy. You're gonna have to either decide

31:54

if you're with it or not. And sometimes

31:56

you gotta take tough votes, you know? I voted

31:59

against a measure today on the floor that I

32:01

generally supported the structure for,

32:03

but I didn't think it went far enough. It exempted

32:06

the ability for us to get reports about how

32:08

inflation is caused by national

32:10

security or emergency related spending.

32:13

I don't like our defense guys and others to be

32:15

able to hide behind. You know,

32:17

of those important things to spend money we don't

32:19

have. Sometimes, you 91 take tough votes in order

32:21

to get change. Yeah. I I money

32:23

we're sending to Ukraine is inflationary because

32:25

-- Of course. -- that cash makes its way back

32:28

into US real estate markets through

32:30

corrupt bank accounts in Switzerland

32:32

91 in

32:33

Dubai. It's also like our friend Thomas Massey would

32:35

say it's like every time you're printing money, which is where

32:37

that money is coming from, we're printing it, we're not offsetting

32:39

it. Then you're actually diluting the value of our

32:41

dollars, which is effectively 91 You can buy fewer

32:43

goods and services because of

32:45

it. What border bill do you think this

32:47

Republican team could pass. Because

32:49

I'm starting to worry that the only

32:51

border security bill that would have two 91 eighteen

32:54

votes today would just be legislation

32:56

to increase the efficiency of processing

32:59

people into into our

33:00

country. Yeah. So that's the real problem. Right? So

33:02

we'll watch and see what happens, what comes out of the homeland

33:04

Security Committee even if it's in good

33:06

faith to say, well, we need some more dollars and some

33:08

more vehicles and some more technology and

33:10

more spending for more border patrol agents and maybe

33:12

be able to give them, you know, retention bonuses,

33:15

I can support some of those 91, but

33:17

only if it's in conjunction with the policies

33:20

that you need to to to provide border

33:22

patrol to actually do their job. Because

33:24

91, what you're paying for is more processing.

33:27

You're paying for more flow. You're paying for

33:29

more profits for cartels

33:31

because you're incentivizing people coming to our

33:33

country, because your policy literally

33:35

is encounter and

33:37

release. And that just says to the cartels,

33:39

keep them coming. Yeah. There are only

33:41

three things you can do with people. Turn

33:43

them away, detain them, or release them into

33:46

your country. Right? And you're saying that that list 91

33:48

three should be reduced down to two. Correct.

33:50

91 and look, it's one of those things where

33:53

right now people wanna understand We're using

33:55

a power of parole to

33:57

release people in the United States, which literally

33:59

says in the statute, case by

34:01

case basis for special 91. Something

34:04

to the those words. And this administration

34:07

is just using parole to bring in

34:09

blocks of people directly contrary

34:11

to law. 91 then we're releasing people

34:13

at the border directly contrary to law.

34:16

Our bill is designed to try to force us to

34:18

actually adhere to the

34:19

law. That's nothing more, nothing less.

34:21

Yeah. It's really not that complicated

34:22

at all.

34:23

Three 91. Yeah. It's it takes three options

34:25

down to two. So one of the other arguments

34:27

91 colleagues make is We have to take

34:29

whatever the, you know, border

34:32

hawk chip Roy theory of the case is,

34:34

and we have to lash that to some

34:36

feature of amnesty. Maybe

34:38

91, maybe some work

34:41

permit

34:43

pathway to citizenship for people that have

34:45

been doing that for a while. 91

34:47

is your assessment of how much amnesty

34:50

can be traded for how much border security?

34:53

So remember I just think it's important for

34:55

your listeners to remember, and you were here and I wasn't.

34:57

I was campaigning for my first time

34:59

to 91 into office. In the summer of two thousand

35:01

eighteen, they had the famous debate over the good

35:03

lap. Bill in July. Most Americans

35:06

wouldn't know it that way, but we just had to fight over border

35:08

security and immigration. 91

35:10

known to most people is that Almost

35:12

every 91, including 91 caucus

35:15

members and conservatives, voted

35:17

for an amnesty. They actually voted for

35:19

eight hundred thousand for DACA recipients.

35:21

The kids. Almost a million. As

35:24

part of a package to try to improve our

35:26

immigration system, end chain 91,

35:28

end the diversity 91, fix it so it's skilled

35:30

labor, and have an actual border security

35:33

solution, which would have prevented a lot of what we're seeing

35:35

now. But it fell short because

35:37

the Republican leadership at the time fully

35:39

in the hip pocket of the chamber of commerce wanted

35:41

something a lot softer. And so the

35:43

idea that we we get attacked off and it's

35:45

saying, you guys are just closed minded. You'll

35:47

never compromise. Not true. We literally

35:50

compromise that summer for for

35:52

an amnesty for a million

35:53

people. Look, this time,

35:56

we are not gonna start with amnesty. That

35:58

is

35:58

not so far. 91 a poison

36:01

pill to any border we should not

36:03

go down that road until we secure the border of

36:05

the United States. Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty

36:07

six, he says one of his biggest mistakes. Which

36:09

was cutting a deal for a future promise

36:11

of security for an amnesty

36:13

then. We are not gonna go down that road.

36:15

That is nonstarter. Our job is

36:17

91 to citizenship. Pathway to citizenship is

36:20

a non

36:20

it is a non starter

36:22

91 be good status. We can have that conversation

36:24

after we secure the border. We're not gonna play that

36:27

game anymore. The American people are tired of that.

36:28

But in the

36:29

in the in the first vote that we take,

36:31

you're not gonna take a first vote

36:33

that isn't a border security bill

36:36

full stop. Correct. I completely

36:38

agree with that assessment. It's one that I think most

36:40

of our viewers and listeners will agree with. Thanks for

36:42

joining me. Thanks for being a 91, not just on

36:44

the border, but on our fiscal

36:46

issues that we 91. And hope to have you

36:48

on some time in the future to talk about war

36:50

powers and how we how we put our

36:52

country first.

36:53

Let's do it. We got the I think the AUM F02

36:55

is moving right now in the Senate. Let's go do it. We got a

36:57

lot of work to do, but thank you for being a voice for freedom and

36:59

for standing up with 91 people. Sounds great.

37:02

Be back soon.