Teni Lopez-Cardenas is a freaking force of nature–a black belt in Krav Maga, an amazing dancer and dance teacher, an operational therapist in a NICU. She’s just walking around changing people’s lives like it’s easy. Listen to us zoom from idea to idea and back around again.

Note: I recorded this via Zoom because she’s in Los Angeles and I’m in Austin. So the sound is a little wonky and there weird tappy taps all the way through. It’s not really distracting once you start listening to her stories, though.