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Whoever's bracket gets busted first has to buy the
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other person a pair of shoes. Are you in? I'll
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do it, but I want the world to
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know. Molly Cheaps. I'm in. Okay, let's
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go. I'm in my word. I'm in. I'm
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going to beat you. We're doing it. We're absolutely
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doing it. 76.59.
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Every dog has his day. And
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this day belongs to the Huskies.
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UConn Men's Basketball National Champions.
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Are you giving me the
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field against UConn? Yes or
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no? Yeah.
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What do you want to put on it? Make it
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louder than you say it. Whatever you want to bet. What you want to bet. You
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want a designer backpack? I'll go designer purse. Just
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come here to clean up, folks.
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That's all. You know, Shannon Sharp,
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the only thing I bet on
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is myself and UConn. Today is
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my day, America. Back to back.
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And we're going to have a
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good, excuse me, Stephen A. Where's
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basketball capital of the world? Can you just
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remind everyone? Stores
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not. Not RRS,
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RRS. Stores Connecticut. Danny Hurley
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and the boys showed up.
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It's time for first take.
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Holler at your girl. Just
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one of them days, folks. Just one of
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them days. Karma. When the good guy wins,
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it is what it is. It's just fitting
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that I would. go to a school of
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champions. I mean the most
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it's just it was destiny right like the
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most historic program. It just
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makes sense right. One you want feeling
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that way Saturday morning but I hear you not
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here. Really because we got robbed by Paige Becker's don't
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get me Oh,
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you let's stay focused on what it
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is. Shannon coach. How's everybody feeling this
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morning? We are we are. Go
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ahead. Any better. Stand
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it. Hey, Molly, you tired of smacking
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these guys around and taking their money?
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I mean, it's unbelievable. You got a
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purse. You got shoes. It's unbelievable. Shannon,
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how do you feel about losing the bet? I don't
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feel good. I don't feel good. I almost text
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even a last night it said I was a
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little under the weather. 75
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degrees in California. Let
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me give you some let me give
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you some brand. Before we start, let
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me give you some brands that'll work
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right. We said no Birkin obviously that's
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local Neiman Marcus. So if you just
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if you need some help, I
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was I was thinking more than along
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the lives of Kate Spade Tory
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Burch. Sorry. No, sorry. I'm
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a winner champion. We're a little we're a
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little step up. And with all
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your shows Hall of Famer, you can
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sit it's peanuts to you. All right,
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guys, let's have some fun. Now in
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all seriousness, and you can conclude a
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dominant run winning their second straight NCAA
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championship. The Huskies defeated Purdue 7560 becoming
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the first team to go back to
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back in Florida in 2006 and 2007.
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You can't average scoring
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margin and their six NCAA tourney
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wins was 23.3 points.
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You can not only covered the spread in
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all 12 of its tournament games
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the last two seasons and also won
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every game by at least 10 points
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12 straight wins by double
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digits is the longest streak in
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NCAA tournament history. Here's Dan Hurley
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On UConn. I
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just think it is. It's the it's the
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best to your rather taken a very very
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long time just because of everything we lost
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from last year's team. To
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lose that much and. But.
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The again to do what we did
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it again Ah there it is gotta
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be is to have is is is
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is impressive. A two year run as
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a programs had a since prior to
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whoever did it before Duke. To
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me it is more impressive than what
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Florida and Defense I'm too because they
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brought back their entire teams and your
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what we are now We lost. We
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lost a major crimes. Yeah
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to that point. I mean you can last
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five guys. just run our weather designers and
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remember it and stuff. Florida team. I think
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it was like oh, six or seven Coach
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correct me if I'm wrong and check with
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research they brought back and pretty much a
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whole tips. Okay so let's just get this
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party started. I see if I santiago forgot
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about. It I feel as if we are deeply uganda
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women as to tell you that average Are you lost
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lost about last what are you are to rely I
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picked in the way well I've and one of the
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government. Has. Had joined the go our rather go
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to a well welcome to the party got a
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while some in their room on the bandwagon out
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what did you can prove winning about to back
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titles. I'll you
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what com food wouldn't back to back titles.
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Bit. Of Michael Jordan's a college basketball.
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Wow. That's right handed take know. Ah
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Ok let's make the headline don't lie
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or else it like that. Wanted a
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Michael Jordan's of college basketball. Why? Because.
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image six national titles thousand ninety
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ninety nine two thousand and four
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two thousand and eleven two thousand
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forties and obviously back to back
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the same sex and oh and
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national championship games that would make
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them the michael jordan's of call
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eleven that line remember i said
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that's danny early sensational job coaching
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this teams are you look at
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the ballon score that they receive
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new was the most outstanding player
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trust louis or he balled up
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the gotta balance go to take
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him castle Obviously Cam Spencer and Clingan
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even with his 11 points and five rebounds. I'm not gonna
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say he did a bad job I'm
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not getting caught up in Zach Edie's
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37. He was absolutely sensational earlier on
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But then all of a sudden when there was a 23-21 lead
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by Purdue all of a sudden things went You
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know very very quiet for Purdue and they didn't
6:19
have much of an answer and it wasn't like
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Zach was being double Team for most of the
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game or whatever sometime they were blitzing on a
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couple of occasions But for the most part they
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weren't doing that So I'm looking at it from
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that standpoint and a lot of his money a
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lot of those numbers in terms of the 37
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overall I'm not taking anything
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away from what we saw from him early
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coach Shannon nothing early, but as the game
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waned He was not you know,
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they held him in check. And so I'm looking
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at the coaching I'm looking at the balance scoring
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attack. I'm looking at the perimeter shooting
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I'm looking at cut you cause ability
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to get out and deny Purdue the
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ability to shoot three-point shots And
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it comes down to you know, what
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they do what's necessary in order to
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get the job done Yukon is not
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a one-dimensional monster They had they can
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beat you in a myriad of ways
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and they certainly did it in one
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game last night And that's why they're
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the deserving raining two-time
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defending national champions this morning
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Yeah, I agree with you Steven. It's hard to
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deny anything that coach Dan Hurley said about how
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impressive this was and it was more Impressive than
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what Duke did in what Florida and I hate
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to you know parse Anything and
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try to take it back to that. But
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when you look at that those three guards,
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they're relentless the pressure that they apply Spencer
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Newton and castle they're relentless at ball pressure
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They do a great job of distributing the
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basketball on the back door cuts They do
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a great job of shooting the ball from
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the perimeter and they made it tough and
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Zach Edie was gonna need to have a
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60-30 game and shoot about 80% for
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them to have a chance He scored basically
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62% of their points. I don't really know
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it was a situation like a Caitlin Clark
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It was like he either did it or
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it didn't get done And so
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that's why they didn't win the game. They
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were over matched. UConn, the better team, top
8:04
to bottom. He did what he could. But
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like you said, Stephen, it was just too
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much UConn last night. They're better than advertised.
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Kind of like with South Carolina, you graduate
8:13
your start and you come back with a
8:15
new team, and you steal. South Carolina goes
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38. No win
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the national championship. For them to
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come back in today's game and
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to have a new lineup
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and to do what they did in the
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fashion, it's not the fact that, man, they
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had a nail biter. Man, they had a call. They
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go their way. Or this thing could have been over.
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Even though it was never close. I
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mean, you win every game by double digits?
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I mean, you got to go back this.
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I mean, I can't remember that in my
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lifetime where I can remember national championship final
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four is a march madness. And I go back
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to before it was 60, 64 teams. I'd
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never seen somebody be this dominant. Not in the
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not in the not. No, not this dominant. Even
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when UNLV's Stephen A wanted the
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first year in 90, they
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had a close game. I think they only
9:04
beat Ball State coach, correct me if I'm
9:06
wrong, by like four. Now, they blew everybody
9:09
outside, even that demolition job they did on
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Duke in the national championship game. But they
9:13
had one game that was one or two
9:15
possessions. They didn't have this at UConn. Coach
9:18
Dan Hurley said, look, I'm staying, but you
9:20
can name your price at Kentucky if you
9:22
wanted it. Look,
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they're the bluest of blood. Six national
9:28
championships over a 25 year period. The
9:31
way they dominated college basketball the last
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two years of the NCAA tournament. Think
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about this. In the last two years,
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they finished every single
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game in the NCAA tournament
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with their walk-ons on the
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court. I mean, Andrew Hurley
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had the ball in his hands at the
9:49
end of every single game. How to shot
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it. It's absolutely incredible. And
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Dan Hurley's got to get the credit. As teams got to get
9:55
the credit, they have a collective responsibility. They
9:57
took this for new team. All
10:00
right, a Purdue team that assists on 65% their
10:03
field goals, forget about that. They only
10:05
had one guy that had an assist in the
10:07
game. Ray De Smith had eight,
10:09
the rest of the team, zero. A Purdue
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team that shoots 41% from the three point
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line. They were one for seven,
10:16
they couldn't even get a three point shot.
10:18
And you talk about what they do with
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Zach Edie. Zach Edie made tough contested jump
10:22
hooks early. He went over 10 minutes
10:25
from the five minute mark in
10:28
the first half until about the
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14 minute mark in the second
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half without scoring. Dominant
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defensive game plan, collective
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responsibility offense between defensively. Danny Hurley
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is the best coach in college
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basketball. They lost five of their
10:43
top eight. They lost three guys
10:45
to the NBA. And
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they came back and they dominated,
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dominated the NCAA tournament. They were
10:54
challenged one time against Alabama. And
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when they did, you know what
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happened? Alabama went on a run,
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they went into seven run. They
11:02
dominated college basketball. Coach, I have a question
11:04
for you in line with what you just
11:07
broke down to the audience because John
11:09
Calipari made news a couple of days ago,
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you know, reportedly scheduled to depart
11:14
from Kentucky to go to Arkansas.
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What's the difference between what Danny
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Hurley is doing and
11:21
what John Calipari hasn't been able to
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do? It's
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his model. Danny Hurley
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has come up with a model that works, first
11:30
of all, he's an elite coach. He
11:32
was born to coach. His division that he
11:34
looks at the game at is so unique.
11:36
I say they play defense like they're from
11:39
Jersey City and they play offense like
11:41
they're from Cuba. I mean, that's just the way they
11:43
play, but it's his model. What has
11:45
Dan Hurley done? Player development, player
11:48
retention, recruiting, and then going
11:50
to the portal to find a fit.
11:52
Think about this year's roster. Hassan
11:55
The hour comes off the bench. Game spent. He was
11:57
the first guy that got in the portal. They
12:00
got Tristan Newton. Oh, he was the
12:02
most outstanding player in the NCAA tournament
12:04
this year. And this year they got
12:06
Cam Spencer Hurley. Yes, I
12:09
called him Cam Spencer Hurley
12:11
because basically Cam Spencer is
12:13
an extension of Danny
12:15
Hurley. He brings toughness, he's a perfect
12:17
fit. You collect talent, but
12:20
you gotta make a team. And what
12:22
they had, they had enough culture creators
12:24
that returned, that's the retention part of
12:26
it. They recruited high level players, Stephen
12:29
Castle absolutely dominating defensively throughout the tournament.
12:32
And then they go to the portal and find the
12:34
right fix. Cal's a little
12:36
bit behind the curve in terms of
12:38
his model. But he's got $5
12:41
million to work on it this year,
12:43
next year at Arkansas. Okay.
12:46
But here's Stephen A. It's
12:50
not his model, Coach adopted this. He wanted
12:52
the one and dones. He felt that if
12:54
he got the most five star, four and
12:56
five star recruits, it would give him a
12:58
leg up on everyone else. Now granted, maybe
13:00
they were just coming to go to the
13:02
NBA. And
13:04
that was just to stop off. That was, you
13:07
know, that's what college basketball, college
13:09
football is a feeding system. The NBA used to have,
13:11
you know, you could go straight from high school to
13:14
the NBA. Cal wanted this model.
13:16
Coach K was so envious, he adopted the
13:18
model. Dan Hurley says, you know what? I'm
13:21
gonna find guys, I'm gonna go to the portal, I'm gonna
13:23
get me guys with some experience. And that's what more teams
13:25
are starting to do is going
13:27
to the portal. Hey, how many minutes can
13:29
you give me? How much money you got
13:32
for me? But I like this because he's
13:34
saying that I believe that with seasoned guys,
13:36
guys that are sophomore, guys that are junior,
13:38
I can convince them to play together. I
13:40
can convince them to be unselfish. It's not
13:43
about where I was a five star. I
13:45
got 25 shots in high school. I
13:48
need to get 25 shots in college. So
13:50
either Coach Salopari Needs to change the
13:52
model, go back to where it was, try to
13:54
get, hey, I Understand you want the best guys,
13:57
but the best guys wanna come and be one
13:59
and done. They'd I agree with you
14:01
go to. It's hard to get young
14:03
guys to play together for an extended
14:05
period of time. With they've been used
14:07
to being the Mayor their entire lives.
14:11
Occurred outside you this of a love the
14:13
codes or the point or shannon a coach
14:15
brought up. For. Do
14:17
was attempting. Twenty three
14:20
again. Naval. One of
14:22
the nation's leader, his three pointers made
14:24
in three point attempts and last night
14:26
can only get up with good. The
14:29
only good for seven three point shot
14:31
yes and only one individual had an
14:33
assist. Those are incredible stats to bring
14:35
to the forefront because it just shows
14:37
that no matter what we want to
14:40
point to about what we saw from
14:42
new Know castle anybody else ostensibly d
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Feds v One Million as known as
14:46
happy as ship Dfs is what it
14:49
was about our that offing along and
14:51
I in and against his will and
14:53
a biggest one is that even the
14:55
army. listen. You could say which
14:57
one he seven for on know he's
14:59
got a future of a they would
15:01
cause a He was impressive and up
15:03
after about twenty not succeed in the
15:06
sensitively tournament. What do I speak, it's
15:08
a blemish to some degree that you
15:10
wait ten minutes at a national Championship
15:12
game held scoreless. Yes, That
15:14
that that coming especially when you know
15:17
and everybody knew. He was out there. I
15:19
want to get it right there at it for the
15:21
able to hard they played that they just can't. Hang.
15:23
First of all, I'm not giving it out auto.
15:25
Let me be clear about this and nobody is
15:27
getting credit for playing hard for Nasa's okay well,
15:29
and we're not doing that. I had a nice.
15:32
Added ever had and I was on. I've
15:34
never seen any body not play hard would
15:37
it? It had a great man know what
15:39
I would I think given them that doing
15:41
a deal a great job. Later as the
15:43
gay progressed pushing him father and fathers and
15:45
before other out so it was about to
15:47
a one point shot or to fully shot
15:49
a brief was shot leg that a big
15:52
bet you know. your side of those who like
15:54
to read for that's right it's way of that's right
15:56
yeah what's the legs out of it you know it's
15:58
with his legs yeah the math And
16:00
I just want to say huge shout to Newton and
16:02
Spencer because they'll obviously be gone next season We'll see
16:04
what's castle if he's one and done Alright
16:07
much more in Yukon a little bit later when
16:09
we come no, we're going to the Warriors from
16:11
the NBA They beat the jazz Sunday They're currently
16:13
tense in the West and pushing for a playoff
16:16
appearance As are the Lakers who
16:18
sit one spot above them in the standings Golden
16:20
State faces the LA Lakers tonight Here's Clay Thompson
16:22
on Draymond Green and forces You're
16:26
not out there it's like
16:28
a piece of us is gone and Me
16:32
and Steph are really nice guys like probably
16:36
too nice no and We
16:39
can never Be ourselves and
16:41
have the freedom we do on the court Without
16:45
you so it does hurt
16:47
But at the end of the day we've been
16:49
through so many battles reached the mountaintop
16:52
Been down the mountain had to climb back up Got
16:55
there again, and now we have
16:57
another real shot at this and it's
16:59
been like a couple tough years But
17:02
still we're still fighting. We're still
17:05
We're still in the mix Hmm,
17:09
I'm gonna join the party. Congratulations. I hear
17:11
you. Thank you. Yes, you have a glow
17:17
Impressed with their run. Oh my goodness. Yes.
17:19
Absolutely the discipline that they showed I've never seen
17:22
a team execute a game plan to take away
17:24
three points shooting the way they did last night
17:26
because typically You overreact to getting scored on in
17:28
the paint. Yeah, they never did and as a
17:30
result They completely shut that water off. It was
17:32
so impressive All right,
17:34
Stephen. Let me ask you this we'll get back to
17:37
the NBA. Obviously you just heard clay on
17:39
Draymond What's your reaction to what he had to say about him?
17:41
Well, it's very touching and
17:43
I don't and I don't say that facetiously I'm
17:46
not Trying to make fun
17:48
of it. I love clay Thompson always have I
17:51
thought that When they won the
17:53
championship against Boston regardless of the fact that
17:55
he wasn't on his a game He had
17:57
come back from that two-year hiatus due to
17:59
the injuries. And so I've always been an
18:01
incredible, incredible fan of Clay Thompson. I think
18:03
that he's one of the top five shooters
18:06
in the history of basketball. Some would argue
18:08
about that, but I think it's a worthy
18:10
debate and discussion because I think that he
18:12
is that elite. Um, and what
18:14
he said about Draymond, I appreciate him saying
18:16
that. I don't think it's entirely true when
18:18
he said, you know, me and Steph, a
18:21
nice guy, maybe that's Steph, Clay, you know,
18:23
and I say this complimentary, Clay know how
18:25
to get at you now. He hated God.
18:27
It doesn't say anything. When you are clownish,
18:29
Clay will let you know when you somebody
18:31
that's out of pocket on the opposition, Clay
18:33
will let you know, just watch some of
18:36
his press conferences. Uh, but these brothers are
18:38
elite and I get what they're bringing to
18:40
the table and I sort of see what's
18:42
happening here in terms of him saying what
18:44
he said about Draymond. I appreciate it. I
18:46
think he's right about that. They are not
18:48
the same team without Draymond Green, make no
18:50
mistake about it. But I also think Shannon
18:53
legs, it's
18:55
an indication that the end is
18:57
near and they know it. Now
19:02
you know me and you know, this is
19:04
what I do for a living. So Shannon,
19:06
it's no secret that I, you know, I
19:08
know quite a few owners in the league
19:10
and quite a few executives in the league.
19:12
I ain't guessing. I'm not, I'm, I'm telling
19:15
you right now that regardless of, of, of,
19:17
you know, the fact that they're going to
19:19
make the play in, you ain't
19:21
spending that money if you Joe Lake up and Peter
19:23
Gubler and stuff like that to be in the play
19:25
in, you know, if you, you
19:27
know, you could, you could spend less money and
19:30
make the play in. And so when
19:32
you look at the Golden State Warriors and the
19:34
fact that you have been battling through the
19:36
play in last year, you get to the semi-finals
19:39
and stuff like that, you do get to a
19:41
point where it's like, would you love to
19:43
keep these guys together? Sure. But will the money
19:45
work? That's the question mark. Steph
19:47
Curry ain't going nowhere. I don't give a damn how much money
19:49
he wanted or whatever. He got three years left. 51 this year,
19:52
55 next year, 59 a year after that. And
19:55
damn it. If he wanted another contract essentially, you could give him
19:57
right now to pay him a hundred million. They would do it.
20:00
Okay, and they should keep step-curry. Dre
20:03
is locked up. You've got him
20:06
for four years, three years after this one.
20:08
Okay, and he's locked in at that hundred
20:10
million dollar deal. Clay is the wild card
20:12
because Clay may want to stay in Golden
20:14
State but in the same breath he's gonna
20:16
need to be, he's gonna feel the need
20:18
to be appreciated and if the
20:20
money isn't right, which it's entirely plausible that
20:22
that may be the case, then they
20:24
may have to move in a different direction. And so
20:28
I got that from listening to them
20:30
yesterday a little bit and hearing
20:32
what Clay was saying and why. It's almost
20:34
like you reminiscing. You guys would know this
20:36
better than me football, basketball, both of you
20:38
professionals. You know when a guy speak in
20:40
a certain kind of way like that, it's
20:43
like paying homage to each
20:45
other and what you've accomplished.
20:47
You do that when
20:49
you feel that the end is
20:52
near. Yeah,
20:55
I think, listen, I think first of all, I
20:58
love what you said, Stephen A, about loving Clay Thompson. I
21:00
couldn't adequately put into words how much I admire and
21:03
respect Clay Thompson. Same here. On and off the court,
21:05
the way he conducts himself and has throughout his career.
21:08
Look, Draymond opened the door, Clay said whatever you
21:10
want, be as honest as you want to be
21:12
and I think Clay Thompson, he handled that the
21:14
right way about a guy that has helped them
21:16
win, has been next to him through a lot
21:18
of battles. You can't tell me in the moment
21:21
that some of these things have happened and that's
21:23
what Clay Thompson was thinking. Because he's not in
21:25
Steph Curry's body language, she said it all in
21:27
the Orlando rejection. When they're fighting for their lives
21:29
to hold on to a play in Spies, Houston
21:31
on their heels and he gets ejected from that
21:33
game. So look, Clay handled that, I think politically
21:35
correct with a teammate while giving him credit for
21:37
all the winning. I think he held back a
21:39
little bit on what they really feel. Here's
21:42
the thing with Golden State. This
21:44
is going to be, I think, a very
21:46
difficult road. They're going to probably have to
21:48
win two single elimination road games in the
21:50
play in. That's most likely what they're looking
21:52
at, especially if they lose the game to the Lakers tonight.
21:55
I don't see them escaping that. I think they're going to have
21:57
a difficult time even making it out of the play in into
21:59
a... first round series and if they do that I don't think
22:02
they can escape that. So it's
22:04
easy for us to say well then what
22:06
happens is is it for them let's blow it
22:08
up let's start moving people that's not resize clay
22:10
let's get rid of drama that's easy to
22:12
say it it's a lot more difficult to
22:14
actually see what that looks like with
22:17
two teams coming together to try to replenish
22:19
for the Golden State Warriors something to stay
22:21
competitive around Steph Curry while getting rid of
22:23
those players. So it's easy to say it
22:25
you got to give me not hypotheticals you
22:28
got to give me a concrete solution to
22:30
what that would look like for the Warriors in
22:32
terms of breaking up this core in the summer
22:34
but there's no question in my mind Steve Allen
22:36
if you agree Shannon I
22:39
don't think we're going to see this core
22:41
group contend again they're not going to make
22:43
a legitimate run at the Western
22:45
Conference or at an NBA championship they're just
22:47
not they can be competitive they can be
22:49
a play and maybe they make the playoff
22:51
series this isn't a team anymore that could
22:53
do what is currently constructed. I
22:56
agree with you legs I agree with a lot what
22:58
you said Stephen also I believe two things can be
23:00
true I believe that they
23:02
would not have been a four-time NBA
23:04
champ without Dray Montgomery I also believe
23:06
that Dray Montgomery has allowed his emotions
23:09
to get the best of him in
23:11
certain situations they could have easily been
23:13
a five-time champion I mean many people
23:15
believe had he not got suspended game
23:17
for they wouldn't they would have won
23:19
the series five against the Cavaliers right
23:21
so for for in that situation and
23:23
it's time see I'm a firm this
23:25
is what I look at guys I'm
23:27
a firm believer the greatest apology is
23:29
change behavior you can't tell me you're
23:31
sorry and continuously do the same things
23:33
over and over now Dray Montgomery says
23:35
I know I let my brothers down
23:37
and I promise you I will not
23:39
put myself in that situation again and
23:41
what has he done since game four
23:43
suspension is continuously over and over allow
23:45
his emotions to get the best of
23:47
him and get thrown out of ballgame
23:49
and then he has to come back
23:51
if his guys I'm sorry it's not
23:53
gonna happen again and thanks to
23:55
Steph Curry a lot of time his heroics
23:58
he's able to bail them out How
24:00
many times must you say I'm sorry and
24:02
not change the behavior before I believe that
24:04
this is who you are and this is
24:06
what you're going to continually do. I
24:09
also agree with what you said at the end legs.
24:11
I don't believe this team
24:13
is not in contention because
24:15
of injuries. That's
24:19
just not good enough anymore. So
24:21
what are you going to do? Are you, are you willing to train?
24:23
Are you willing to say, okay, what
24:26
can you do? We can, because I
24:28
believe comminga and I believe Steph Curry
24:30
should be untouchable. Now, Draymond, Draymond
24:32
is like you said, Steven, and he has three
24:34
years left on his deal, but what are you
24:36
going to do? Moody,
24:39
what, what pieces can you Moody
24:41
and Wiggins, what can you get
24:43
to go along with comminga and
24:46
Steph and potentially Draymond to
24:48
make you serious contenders? Because as
24:52
constructed currently and going to be a year
24:54
older next year, I don't believe
24:56
they complete next year. I don't believe they're not in
24:58
contention because of injuries. I
25:01
got to tell y'all this. I mean, I
25:03
don't know if the lightening might strike me down or
25:05
something. First of all, I'm not, I
25:07
believe what you're both saying in terms
25:09
of their future is presently constructed. I
25:12
still think they got a chance this year. Now, let
25:14
me tell you this. I think you
25:16
have a chance when you can shoot the basketball
25:18
from the perimeter and when you can hit free
25:20
throws, when you can do
25:22
those two things, you're in any
25:24
game because sometimes teams will beat
25:27
themselves. And anytime you can shoot, you
25:29
can put the ball in the hole. You got a
25:31
chance. So I look at Golden State Warriors
25:33
this season, not beyond the season, but this
25:35
season, and I say, they have a chance.
25:37
The one thing that I will say and
25:39
that continues to boggle my mind when they
25:41
won those championships, you had a Andrew Bogan
25:44
and a Josh Jaffa Julia, people like that
25:46
side, yeah, where you
25:48
weren't relying on Draymond to be
25:51
the five. When I think about
25:54
who the champions are, which is your
25:56
cage, okay? How in God's name, you're
25:58
the warriors and you want to compete.
26:00
and you don't have a sizable opponent
26:02
just to throw a body around. That's
26:04
why I bring up guys like the
26:06
Demarcus cousins of the world and various
26:08
others who could potentially be out there.
26:10
Just a big body to throw in
26:12
there and sort of somewhat clog the
26:14
middle in some kind
26:17
of physical capacity. So you don't
26:19
ask Draymond with his undersized self
26:21
against these bigger guys to go
26:23
up against them. I don't know
26:25
why the Golden State Warriors have
26:27
never addressed something like that. But in the end
26:30
this season, if Clay, and
26:32
again, the Golden State Warriors shouldn't be the favorite,
26:34
but what if Clay got hot and
26:37
Kamegan Pajimsky are hitting jumpers too?
26:39
Cause we know what Steph's going to do. Think about
26:41
that for a second. And then say, are
26:43
you sure they can't knock somebody off? I
26:46
think they can guys. I
26:49
think the thing is that when they won
26:51
those titles and they went to that depth
26:53
lineup, very few teams had something to counter
26:55
that. Now hell, everybody goes, goes
26:57
to a small lineup late in the
26:59
ball game. Don't nobody have their big,
27:02
unless he Joel and be a Nicole,
27:04
a yo-kitch out there. Everybody goes to
27:06
that. Small and Anthony Davis. Don't get
27:08
Anthony Davis. Right. So you got Anthony
27:10
Davis who's really a stretch that's playing
27:12
the fight. Are you disappointed that Anthony
27:14
Davis is your five and he has
27:16
to go up against Draymond? Are you
27:18
really disappointed in that? So now you
27:20
get LeBron, you get D-Lo, you get
27:22
Rui and you get guys like that.
27:24
You look at Ant-Man. Now probably you
27:26
would take Rudy go bear out and you
27:29
go with Nas, Reed and cat. So,
27:31
but you got lineups. Now a
27:33
lot more teams have lineups to
27:35
counter the depth lineup that Golden
27:37
State made famous. A
27:39
hundred percent. Right. And look, here's the other
27:41
thing. Just go back to a year ago.
27:44
I don't think I've ever seen a team
27:46
look more swallowed up physically than the Warriors
27:48
were in that series with the Raiders. They
27:50
look small, they look feeble. They were thrown
27:52
around. They couldn't get separation on the perimeter
27:54
because the length of the Lakers jumping out,
27:56
they completely took Clay Thompson out of the
27:58
series. And that's hard. me to get out
28:01
of my mind and now just fast forward
28:03
a year, the Warriors are more inconsistent offensively
28:05
than they've ever been. To your point, you're
28:07
100% right. Like on a given night, can
28:09
Clay Thompson be that difference maker? Get that
28:11
hot. Yes. The problem is you can't
28:15
really know a logical argument that you
28:18
know what you're going to get from
28:20
Clay Thompson and that's the problem. And
28:23
let me throw this out there bigs.
28:25
Like I mentioned DeMarcus Cousins. I mentioned,
28:27
I didn't mention Andre Drummond. I thought
28:30
Oklahoma City, for example, should have went out
28:32
and got an Andre Drummond. You know, somebody
28:34
that just going to grab you 15, 23,
28:36
your weakness.
28:40
I'm looking at some of these executives
28:42
and I'm wondering what the hell are
28:44
you thinking? Because you look at
28:46
the pieces around these other teams. I'm looking at
28:48
a Golden State. I'm looking at an Oklahoma City
28:50
and stuff like that. And just ask yourself if
28:53
they got side, if they got somebody that can
28:55
get an offensive rebound and give you an additional
28:57
opportunity at a shot, you're trying to tell me
28:59
that can't help you. And somehow, some way
29:01
you see these decisions being made by some
29:03
of these teams. Well, maybe they, you know,
29:06
this player might be a problem for this
29:08
coach or whatever. I might get the hell
29:10
over it. I'm trying to win the more
29:12
advanced, the more advanced, the more money I
29:14
collect. Excuse if I'm an owner, I'm thinking
29:16
about stuff like that. These guys got to
29:18
answer these kind of questions because there's some
29:20
big boys out there and I mentioned two
29:22
of them who can make a contribution to
29:24
an NBA team and why they ain't in
29:26
the end. You know what, especially the Marcus
29:28
Cousins, why you ain't on a roster right now?
29:30
Don't make no sense to me. It don't make no sense to
29:32
me. It really doesn't. Steven, one of the
29:35
handful of games that I went to this year was
29:37
the Lakers in Golden State. And guess what?
29:39
Clay Thompson looked like the old Clay Thompson because
29:42
he had 17 like the
29:44
first quarter, he ended up having 21 at
29:46
the half and he is still got hot
29:48
and shot the Lakers out of the building.
29:50
Even after LeBron had a virtue, also had
29:52
a 40 point game, but was sensational, they
29:55
weren't over, wasn't able to overcome that hard
29:57
shooting by a play Thompson. But you're right.
30:00
But what we haven't seen from Clay
30:02
is that level of consistency, Steven A,
30:05
over the last several years, since he came up,
30:07
come off that injury. Could he do it? You're
30:09
asking him. So basically he's going to need to
30:11
be that type of way. You got
30:13
to win 16 games in the playoffs. Do
30:15
you believe he could, in your
30:18
30 years of coming to basketball, coming
30:20
to game of basketball, do you believe
30:22
the Steph Curry that you know can
30:25
rear his head and do that over
30:27
the course of an NBA title run?
30:29
I think Steph Curry needs help. And
30:31
I think, and I think, and I
30:33
think with the pieces that they have,
30:35
if Clay give you a couple of
30:37
big games and Prudinski gives you a
30:40
couple of good games from the men,
30:42
the menga, Andrew Wiggins, those four guys,
30:44
if two of them can give you
30:46
accuracy from the perimeter, I think Golden
30:48
State can beat practically anybody but Denver
30:50
in the post season. Well,
30:53
we're talking about, we're talking about their ceiling.
30:55
The problem is that they so rarely have
30:57
hit it. By the way, I want to
30:59
be clear. We're not just laying this at
31:01
the feet of Clay Thompson's inconsistency. Wiggins has
31:04
been inconsistent. Paul's been
31:06
inconsistent. Kominga has been pretty
31:08
solid here for a few months now. I think I
31:10
know what to expect out of Kominga now, most nights,
31:12
but it's not just Clay. It's the
31:14
fact that they so rarely hit their
31:17
ceiling collectively. And we'd have to talk
31:19
about replicating that night after night. First
31:21
of all, it's just two playing games, most likely on the
31:24
road, most likely. I think that to me is
31:26
a reach to think that we're going to see that
31:28
look, nobody wants to see this team advance more than
31:30
I do. Cause I love watching Steph Curry play basketball.
31:32
Give me more Steph Curry. That's what I want. I'm
31:35
just being realistic about what I've seen all year. I
31:37
sure hope it's not over though. Cause that's an end of
31:39
an era, three of them
31:41
that I've been so fun to watch. Well, if
31:44
Clay is willing to accept a lot less,
31:46
which I don't think he would nor should,
31:48
then it's a different
31:50
discussion. But the fact is, is that you can't
31:52
pay him with some of them young bloods on
31:54
a come up. You're going to, they're going
31:56
to be looking to get paid themselves. And, you
31:59
know, Clay is no, longer the same 43 million
32:01
dollar player that he once was even though
32:03
I think Klay Thompson could be a vital
32:05
piece for a whole bunch of teams in
32:07
the NBA. Hey, Steven A. Steven A. Molly
32:10
just said for you this for me, Steven
32:12
A. Lane, you know sometimes your old lady
32:14
look better to a new set of eyes
32:16
so maybe since Klay Thompson go look better
32:18
somewhere else than he would in Golden State.
32:20
Yeah. So you have to use the term old lady
32:23
though? I'm just gonna say you go
32:25
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32:27
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32:29
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that happened. UConn and South Carolina both
35:00
completed impressive runs with national championships. But
35:02
which team was more dominant this season?
35:05
So UConn beat all of its opponents
35:07
in the tournament by at least 14
35:09
points. But South Carolina, they
35:12
finished the season unceded.
35:16
Shannon, obviously this is
35:18
a tough question, right? They both had impressive
35:20
runs. So I know it's a tough one to answer.
35:23
Which run would you say was more dominant?
35:25
Is it Dawn, Staley in South Carolina, or
35:27
Dan Hurley in UConn? Yeah,
35:29
Amali, Stephen, we're splitting hairs here because any
35:31
time you won a national championship, it's hard
35:33
to say. And it's like, which is heavier,
35:35
a ton of bricks or a ton of
35:38
feathers when they actually both wear a ton.
35:40
They both won the national championship. But I'm
35:42
going to say South Carolina because they got
35:44
to they were on the cusp last year.
35:46
And the team that knocked them off, they
35:48
got that team back with a with a
35:50
red hot. Kaitlin Clark, land the nation in
35:52
scoring, land the nation in the fifth, the
35:54
two time player of the year. I mean,
35:56
we know all the records, most
35:59
of the CS that. Most points ever scored,
36:01
so forth and so on. And they were
36:04
up against it. And the goals 38 and
36:06
0 after they, all the guys,
36:08
think about it, the five starters go to
36:10
the WNBA. I think they had a sixth
36:12
also that came off the bench and go
36:14
to the WNBA. They bring back a younger
36:16
group and finished the
36:18
task that they were unable to finish last
36:20
year. It was an unbelievable run. I think
36:22
this was the most impressive because this is
36:24
a young team. And the way God was
36:26
able to guide these young ladies throughout the
36:28
tournament, really only challenged once,
36:31
a junk card docile to hit that shot
36:33
against Tennessee and the FVV tournament, are three
36:35
pointer, probably the only three she's ever attempted
36:37
and she made it. So I'm gonna say
36:40
the University of South Carolina Lady Game Cops.
36:42
Listen, I can't really disagree with you, but
36:45
I just gotta give props to UConn and
36:47
what we saw from them. 37 and three
36:49
is 37 and three. They
36:51
did suffer a blowout loss against, I think it
36:53
was Seton Hall earlier this year, if I remember
36:56
correctly. I know they lost to Kansas. They
36:59
lost to Seton Hall by 15, just looking at this right
37:01
now. And then of course they lost, that's
37:04
who they got blown out by by
37:06
Creighton. But I'm looking at them and
37:09
they're not, they're dominance during the NCAA
37:11
tournament, being the reigning defending national champions,
37:14
getting everybody's A game and still showing
37:17
up having lost the five starters that
37:19
they, the five players that they lost,
37:22
losing the personnel that they lost, coming
37:24
back again, going 37 and three, defending
37:27
their crown and doing it in a myriad
37:29
of ways that they did it. And it's
37:32
such convincing lopsided fashion. When I look at
37:34
South Carolina, they lucked up in the conference
37:36
tournament against Tennessee with that last shot. No
37:38
doubt about that, we can't forget that. Obviously
37:41
Indiana gave them a run for their money
37:43
in the NCAA tournament. LSU gave them a
37:46
game in a conference championship game as well.
37:48
It's not to take anything away from them.
37:51
They won, they're unblemished, they're undefeated, Doris Daly's
37:53
phenomenal, all of that's true. But when I
37:55
look at UConn and I'm thinking about what
37:57
you got, which was everybody's A game. because
38:00
you're the reigning defending national champions and
38:02
you lost all the personnel that you
38:04
lost and you had to incorporate so
38:06
many new bodies and you still went
38:08
out there and when it was time
38:10
at the most you answered the call
38:12
in very very convincing fashion. I
38:14
got to give UConn some love in that
38:16
regard and say to some degree this day
38:18
their year seemed a bit more dominant because
38:20
of how it ended. I
38:23
think the thing is when you look at the Indiana game,
38:25
Steven, they were up by 22 and then
38:27
they got took their foot off the gas because they
38:29
were blowing Indiana out and then all of a sudden
38:31
they get careless, you know, they start showboarding and it
38:33
happens from time to time. That's what young kids do.
38:36
They start, you know, looking at
38:38
the crowd and throwing their hands up and trying things and the
38:40
next thing you know, kids I see it in the NFL all
38:42
the time. I know. All the time. You
38:44
see it in the NBA. The NBA
38:46
and stuff like that. That's right. And the NBA, yeah,
38:48
but especially the NFL. Remember what we
38:50
just saw? What was that? Was it Sunday that
38:54
the Clippers came back from 26 against Cleveland?
38:57
That's right. So we see
39:00
that teams have these big leagues. They're
39:02
doing their dancing and doing their thing
39:04
and the next thing you know they
39:06
find themselves on the losing end. But
39:08
when you look at South Carolina, they
39:10
beat Iowa by double digits. They beat
39:12
UConn by double digits. They beat LSU
39:14
twice. They beat a red hot NC
39:17
State team. The teams that
39:19
they beat and in the fashion in which they
39:21
were beating them, Steven, they made up and there's
39:24
something to be said about 38. No,
39:26
the 10th ladies team to go
39:28
undefeated in a season and
39:30
considering what they lost, Aliyah
39:33
Boston, the number one overall draft pick. Like
39:35
I said, they had five, I think five
39:37
or six young ladies that went to the
39:39
WNBA and to bring back basically an entirely
39:42
different team. And Raven
39:44
Johnson had those demons. Steven
39:46
A. Caitlin Clark is
39:48
10 feet away. Say, you're
39:51
the last thing on my mind. Exactly. And she said, you
39:53
know what? I might not shoot it. I might not score
39:56
over two or three points this year, but I'm going to
39:58
make sure you don't have the type of team. game
40:00
that you had last year. That's true and that's
40:02
exactly what she did. Major props to her. I
40:04
can't argue with you about that. Those are very
40:06
valid points but we saw what we saw from
40:09
UConn as well and we saw how dominant they
40:11
were and we saw and Hurley has established himself
40:13
as the best coach in college basketball. The UConn
40:15
program has established themselves as the elite of the
40:17
blue bloods in existence because of their 25-year run.
40:19
What they've been doing since 1999 nobody
40:22
compares so we got to take all of
40:24
those things into consideration as well and them
40:27
closing the deal. Coming off a national championship
40:29
with those losses with everybody gunning for
40:31
them and they still answered the
40:33
call in a different albeit a
40:35
different way they still got it
40:37
done. Yeah returning just two starters
40:39
losing five guys to the draft.
40:41
Yep. South Carolina now is when
40:43
you think of preeminent women's college
40:45
programs, the Tennessee's, the UConn's. Now
40:48
you got to think of the Lady Gamecocks. I
40:51
don't know why but when you
40:54
think about it Steven A. UConn is
40:57
really never men's have never seen
40:59
a received the love and the
41:01
adulation like a Carolina, like a
41:03
Duke. That's fair. Like
41:05
a Kentucky and I don't know why because
41:07
it's not like they ain't got but they
41:10
the NBA ain't littered with UConn guys. Well I
41:12
think I think I can answer that I can
41:14
answer that I think Mike Szyzewski being that Duke
41:16
played a role. I think Roy Williams playing in
41:18
North Carolina played a role. Coach Smith before
41:21
that obviously as so but but also even though
41:23
Calhoun was well known as well. Calhoun was very
41:26
well known but there was so many changes that
41:28
took place within the Big East that took away
41:30
some of the yeah we're right we can't ignore
41:32
that. I'm telling you don't leave the 80s and
41:34
stuff like that. It was just a different
41:38
animal and when that
41:40
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41:42
UConn I think that sort of took a
41:44
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43:56
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43:59
title in the NFL. Texans might be
44:01
the best team in the great
44:03
state of Texas now for the
44:05
first time stealing the Dallas Cowboys
44:07
shine. Okay, club
44:10
Shay Shay, tell me this, where
44:12
does Houston rank in the AFC with
44:15
Diggs now joining CJ Stroud? Well,
44:19
I think they're clearly
44:21
behind Kansas City and Baltimore in my
44:23
estimation. The
44:26
uncertainty with Houston leaves
44:28
me. I would say
44:31
probably 4th or 5th. I'm
44:34
not so sure I'm putting them in front of
44:36
Miami. I'm not putting them in front of... No,
44:38
I'm not. Because here's the thing, Steve, if you
44:40
take Miami and bring them to Houston, you know
44:43
you're putting them in a controlled environment, right? Yes.
44:46
And you know what happens when you put them... Okay,
44:49
so I'm going to say, I think they're
44:51
behind Buffalo. I still
44:53
believe in Josh Allen. Let's see what
44:55
they do in the draft. I would say 4th or 5th. Come
44:59
on, Shannon. Shannon. Come on,
45:01
Shannon. Josh
45:03
Allen, you lost Gabe Davis and
45:06
Stefan Diggs. Right. And Stefan
45:08
Diggs. And they're going to have some changeover on
45:10
the defensive side of the ball because of injuries
45:12
and stuff as well. Come on, Shannon. You can't
45:15
put Buffalo above Houston. Not right now. But
45:18
if Josh Allen is what many
45:20
believe him to be, has he
45:22
supposed... I
45:24
think he's been good. In big
45:27
moments, he hasn't been what he needs to
45:29
be. See, I know
45:31
what you're saying. Look, I love Nico Collins.
45:33
I love Tank Dale. I love CJ Stroud
45:36
and what he's able to do. I
45:38
love that. And by the way,
45:40
remember they got mixed in there. Yes.
45:43
But a lot of teams have had a good one
45:45
season. Let's see if they can replicate that.
45:47
Let's see if they can put... Because guess what? Guess
45:50
what we got now before them, Steve and A? Something
45:53
that you didn't have for them last year. I'll
45:57
stop it. I'll stop it. Let me tell you
45:59
why. I can't believe you're saying this, this stuff
46:01
is blasphemy right now. How is this coming out of the
46:03
mouth? Because here's why, Shannon, here's why. I
46:06
get Baltimore, Kansas City, Kansas City, ready to defend
46:08
the champions. We all know the two times, we
46:10
know what they bring to the table, okay? You
46:12
look at Baltimore, Lamar Jackson
46:14
got to the AFC Championship game, we know
46:17
what this brother can bring, all right? And
46:19
obviously, Monk, being there as your offensive coordinator,
46:21
the stability that Harbaugh brings, their defensive, a
46:23
bunch of rough riders, we get that part,
46:25
right? Miami and Buffalo have given
46:27
us no reason to be sold on them. With
46:30
the personnel they had in place, they couldn't get
46:32
over the hump in Buffalo. Miami, don't get me
46:34
started once you get them away from near
46:36
South Beach, or as you would say,
46:38
a controlled environment, a controlled environment on
46:40
South Beach. Okay, so if you talk
46:43
about head-to-head matchup, you got the cheater
46:45
in Houston, I understand that. Ain't
46:48
no answer for that, brother. I do understand that,
46:50
but I'm saying you got to play against a
46:52
whole bunch of other people. Right.
46:54
Miami giving us to believe in
46:56
them when they get away from
46:58
a controlled environment, or did I
47:00
say elite weather near South Beach?
47:02
I'm sorry, I got Houston at
47:04
three. I got Houston at number three. I
47:08
would probably put, like I said, if you
47:10
put them at four or five, if you
47:12
put them at four, I'm not disappointed. I
47:14
still believe, because here's the thing, Steve, you're
47:17
telling me you have the level of expectations
47:19
last year for the Texans that you have
47:21
for them this year? No,
47:23
no, definitely more this year. That's because I believe
47:25
in CJ Stroud. Like you said, you believe in
47:27
Josh Allen. Right. So
47:29
now you didn't have expectations. They
47:31
surprised you. Guess what happens
47:34
when someone does something, and now
47:36
you have those expectations. You expect
47:38
more from said person. Okay. Okay.
47:41
So I expect more. And so,
47:45
hey, here's where I got Josh Allen. I mean, can he
47:47
disappoint me by going... All
47:49
I'm saying is this. Listen, Miami and Buffalo got
47:51
expectations. Oh, yeah, for sure. For
47:54
sure. All right. But I think you
47:56
think Houston has more expectations than both of them. those
48:00
teams now. I just think they'll be
48:02
better than both of them. I think
48:04
they'll be better than both of them.
48:06
The 2024 NFL Draft heads to Detroit
48:09
and it's time to see who gets
48:11
the job. Caleb is the unique and
48:13
special talent throwing the football and what
48:15
sets them apart. The Hysin Trophy winner
48:17
is Jaden Daniels. All of the
48:19
great people were hired here. Who
48:23
gets the job? The 2024
48:25
NFL Draft begins Tuesday, April
48:28
25th on ESPN, ADC, and
48:30
NFL Network.
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