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Hour 1: Coaching Clinic

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Whoever's bracket gets busted first has to buy the

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other person a pair of shoes. Are you in? I'll

0:36

do it, but I want the world to

0:39

know. Molly Cheaps. I'm in. Okay, let's

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go. I'm in my word. I'm in. I'm

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going to beat you. We're doing it. We're absolutely

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doing it. 76.59.

0:48

Every dog has his day. And

0:50

this day belongs to the Huskies.

0:53

UConn Men's Basketball National Champions.

0:55

Are you giving me the

0:57

field against UConn? Yes or

1:00

no? Yeah.

1:04

What do you want to put on it? Make it

1:06

louder than you say it. Whatever you want to bet. What you want to bet. You

1:08

want a designer backpack? I'll go designer purse. Just

1:17

come here to clean up, folks.

1:19

That's all. You know, Shannon Sharp,

1:21

the only thing I bet on

1:23

is myself and UConn. Today is

1:26

my day, America. Back to back.

1:28

And we're going to have a

1:30

good, excuse me, Stephen A. Where's

1:32

basketball capital of the world? Can you just

1:34

remind everyone? Stores

1:38

not. Not RRS,

1:40

RRS. Stores Connecticut. Danny Hurley

1:42

and the boys showed up.

1:44

It's time for first take.

1:47

Holler at your girl. Just

1:52

one of them days, folks. Just one of

1:54

them days. Karma. When the good guy wins,

1:56

it is what it is. It's just fitting

1:59

that I would. go to a school of

2:01

champions. I mean the most

2:03

it's just it was destiny right like the

2:05

most historic program. It just

2:07

makes sense right. One you want feeling

2:09

that way Saturday morning but I hear you not

2:11

here. Really because we got robbed by Paige Becker's don't

2:13

get me Oh,

2:17

you let's stay focused on what it

2:20

is. Shannon coach. How's everybody feeling this

2:22

morning? We are we are. Go

2:24

ahead. Any better. Stand

2:26

it. Hey, Molly, you tired of smacking

2:29

these guys around and taking their money?

2:31

I mean, it's unbelievable. You got a

2:33

purse. You got shoes. It's unbelievable. Shannon,

2:36

how do you feel about losing the bet? I don't

2:38

feel good. I don't feel good. I almost text

2:40

even a last night it said I was a

2:42

little under the weather. 75

2:44

degrees in California. Let

2:48

me give you some let me give

2:50

you some brand. Before we start, let

2:52

me give you some brands that'll work

2:54

right. We said no Birkin obviously that's

2:56

out of budget. LV is good Gucci

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Prada Givenchy YSL. You could pick them

3:00

up at SACS your local SACS your

3:02

local Neiman Marcus. So if you just

3:04

if you need some help, I

3:07

was I was thinking more than along

3:09

the lives of Kate Spade Tory

3:12

Burch. Sorry. No, sorry. I'm

3:14

a winner champion. We're a little we're a

3:16

little step up. And with all

3:18

your shows Hall of Famer, you can

3:20

sit it's peanuts to you. All right,

3:22

guys, let's have some fun. Now in

3:24

all seriousness, and you can conclude a

3:26

dominant run winning their second straight NCAA

3:29

championship. The Huskies defeated Purdue 7560 becoming

3:31

the first team to go back to

3:33

back in Florida in 2006 and 2007.

3:35

You can't average scoring

3:38

margin and their six NCAA tourney

3:40

wins was 23.3 points.

3:43

You can not only covered the spread in

3:45

all 12 of its tournament games

3:47

the last two seasons and also won

3:49

every game by at least 10 points

3:52

12 straight wins by double

3:54

digits is the longest streak in

3:57

NCAA tournament history. Here's Dan Hurley

3:59

On UConn. I

4:02

just think it is. It's the it's the

4:04

best to your rather taken a very very

4:06

long time just because of everything we lost

4:08

from last year's team. To

4:11

lose that much and. But.

4:13

The again to do what we did

4:15

it again Ah there it is gotta

4:17

be is to have is is is

4:19

is impressive. A two year run as

4:21

a programs had a since prior to

4:24

whoever did it before Duke. To

4:26

me it is more impressive than what

4:29

Florida and Defense I'm too because they

4:31

brought back their entire teams and your

4:33

what we are now We lost. We

4:36

lost a major crimes. Yeah

4:39

to that point. I mean you can last

4:41

five guys. just run our weather designers and

4:43

remember it and stuff. Florida team. I think

4:45

it was like oh, six or seven Coach

4:47

correct me if I'm wrong and check with

4:50

research they brought back and pretty much a

4:52

whole tips. Okay so let's just get this

4:54

party started. I see if I santiago forgot

4:56

about. It I feel as if we are deeply uganda

4:58

women as to tell you that average Are you lost

5:00

lost about last what are you are to rely I

5:02

picked in the way well I've and one of the

5:04

government. Has. Had joined the go our rather go

5:06

to a well welcome to the party got a

5:09

while some in their room on the bandwagon out

5:11

what did you can prove winning about to back

5:13

titles. I'll you

5:15

what com food wouldn't back to back titles.

5:18

Bit. Of Michael Jordan's a college basketball.

5:20

Wow. That's right handed take know. Ah

5:23

Ok let's make the headline don't lie

5:25

or else it like that. Wanted a

5:27

Michael Jordan's of college basketball. Why? Because.

5:30

image six national titles thousand ninety

5:32

ninety nine two thousand and four

5:34

two thousand and eleven two thousand

5:36

forties and obviously back to back

5:38

the same sex and oh and

5:40

national championship games that would make

5:42

them the michael jordan's of call

5:44

eleven that line remember i said

5:46

that's danny early sensational job coaching

5:48

this teams are you look at

5:50

the ballon score that they receive

5:52

new was the most outstanding player

5:55

trust louis or he balled up

5:57

the gotta balance go to take

5:59

him castle Obviously Cam Spencer and Clingan

6:01

even with his 11 points and five rebounds. I'm not gonna

6:03

say he did a bad job I'm

6:05

not getting caught up in Zach Edie's

6:07

37. He was absolutely sensational earlier on

6:11

But then all of a sudden when there was a 23-21 lead

6:13

by Purdue all of a sudden things went You

6:17

know very very quiet for Purdue and they didn't

6:19

have much of an answer and it wasn't like

6:22

Zach was being double Team for most of the

6:24

game or whatever sometime they were blitzing on a

6:26

couple of occasions But for the most part they

6:28

weren't doing that So I'm looking at it from

6:30

that standpoint and a lot of his money a

6:32

lot of those numbers in terms of the 37

6:34

overall I'm not taking anything

6:36

away from what we saw from him early

6:38

coach Shannon nothing early, but as the game

6:40

waned He was not you know,

6:43

they held him in check. And so I'm looking

6:45

at the coaching I'm looking at the balance scoring

6:47

attack. I'm looking at the perimeter shooting

6:50

I'm looking at cut you cause ability

6:52

to get out and deny Purdue the

6:54

ability to shoot three-point shots And

6:57

it comes down to you know, what

6:59

they do what's necessary in order to

7:01

get the job done Yukon is not

7:03

a one-dimensional monster They had they can

7:05

beat you in a myriad of ways

7:07

and they certainly did it in one

7:09

game last night And that's why they're

7:11

the deserving raining two-time

7:13

defending national champions this morning

7:17

Yeah, I agree with you Steven. It's hard to

7:19

deny anything that coach Dan Hurley said about how

7:21

impressive this was and it was more Impressive than

7:23

what Duke did in what Florida and I hate

7:25

to you know parse Anything and

7:27

try to take it back to that. But

7:29

when you look at that those three guards,

7:32

they're relentless the pressure that they apply Spencer

7:34

Newton and castle they're relentless at ball pressure

7:36

They do a great job of distributing the

7:38

basketball on the back door cuts They do

7:40

a great job of shooting the ball from

7:42

the perimeter and they made it tough and

7:44

Zach Edie was gonna need to have a

7:46

60-30 game and shoot about 80% for

7:49

them to have a chance He scored basically

7:51

62% of their points. I don't really know

7:53

it was a situation like a Caitlin Clark

7:56

It was like he either did it or

7:58

it didn't get done And so

8:00

that's why they didn't win the game. They

8:02

were over matched. UConn, the better team, top

8:04

to bottom. He did what he could. But

8:07

like you said, Stephen, it was just too

8:09

much UConn last night. They're better than advertised.

8:11

Kind of like with South Carolina, you graduate

8:13

your start and you come back with a

8:15

new team, and you steal. South Carolina goes

8:18

38. No win

8:20

the national championship. For them to

8:22

come back in today's game and

8:24

to have a new lineup

8:26

and to do what they did in the

8:28

fashion, it's not the fact that, man, they

8:30

had a nail biter. Man, they had a call. They

8:33

go their way. Or this thing could have been over.

8:35

Even though it was never close. I

8:38

mean, you win every game by double digits?

8:40

I mean, you got to go back this.

8:42

I mean, I can't remember that in my

8:44

lifetime where I can remember national championship final

8:47

four is a march madness. And I go back

8:49

to before it was 60, 64 teams. I'd

8:52

never seen somebody be this dominant. Not in the

8:54

not in the not. No, not this dominant. Even

8:58

when UNLV's Stephen A wanted the

9:00

first year in 90, they

9:02

had a close game. I think they only

9:04

beat Ball State coach, correct me if I'm

9:06

wrong, by like four. Now, they blew everybody

9:09

outside, even that demolition job they did on

9:11

Duke in the national championship game. But they

9:13

had one game that was one or two

9:15

possessions. They didn't have this at UConn. Coach

9:18

Dan Hurley said, look, I'm staying, but you

9:20

can name your price at Kentucky if you

9:22

wanted it. Look,

9:26

they're the bluest of blood. Six national

9:28

championships over a 25 year period. The

9:31

way they dominated college basketball the last

9:33

two years of the NCAA tournament. Think

9:35

about this. In the last two years,

9:37

they finished every single

9:39

game in the NCAA tournament

9:42

with their walk-ons on the

9:44

court. I mean, Andrew Hurley

9:46

had the ball in his hands at the

9:49

end of every single game. How to shot

9:51

it. It's absolutely incredible. And

9:53

Dan Hurley's got to get the credit. As teams got to get

9:55

the credit, they have a collective responsibility. They

9:57

took this for new team. All

10:00

right, a Purdue team that assists on 65% their

10:03

field goals, forget about that. They only

10:05

had one guy that had an assist in the

10:07

game. Ray De Smith had eight,

10:09

the rest of the team, zero. A Purdue

10:12

team that shoots 41% from the three point

10:14

line. They were one for seven,

10:16

they couldn't even get a three point shot.

10:18

And you talk about what they do with

10:20

Zach Edie. Zach Edie made tough contested jump

10:22

hooks early. He went over 10 minutes

10:25

from the five minute mark in

10:28

the first half until about the

10:30

14 minute mark in the second

10:32

half without scoring. Dominant

10:34

defensive game plan, collective

10:36

responsibility offense between defensively. Danny Hurley

10:39

is the best coach in college

10:41

basketball. They lost five of their

10:43

top eight. They lost three guys

10:45

to the NBA. And

10:49

they came back and they dominated,

10:51

dominated the NCAA tournament. They were

10:54

challenged one time against Alabama. And

10:56

when they did, you know what

10:58

happened? Alabama went on a run,

11:00

they went into seven run. They

11:02

dominated college basketball. Coach, I have a question

11:04

for you in line with what you just

11:07

broke down to the audience because John

11:09

Calipari made news a couple of days ago,

11:12

you know, reportedly scheduled to depart

11:14

from Kentucky to go to Arkansas.

11:16

What's the difference between what Danny

11:18

Hurley is doing and

11:21

what John Calipari hasn't been able to

11:23

do? It's

11:25

his model. Danny Hurley

11:28

has come up with a model that works, first

11:30

of all, he's an elite coach. He

11:32

was born to coach. His division that he

11:34

looks at the game at is so unique.

11:36

I say they play defense like they're from

11:39

Jersey City and they play offense like

11:41

they're from Cuba. I mean, that's just the way they

11:43

play, but it's his model. What has

11:45

Dan Hurley done? Player development, player

11:48

retention, recruiting, and then going

11:50

to the portal to find a fit.

11:52

Think about this year's roster. Hassan

11:55

The hour comes off the bench. Game spent. He was

11:57

the first guy that got in the portal. They

12:00

got Tristan Newton. Oh, he was the

12:02

most outstanding player in the NCAA tournament

12:04

this year. And this year they got

12:06

Cam Spencer Hurley. Yes, I

12:09

called him Cam Spencer Hurley

12:11

because basically Cam Spencer is

12:13

an extension of Danny

12:15

Hurley. He brings toughness, he's a perfect

12:17

fit. You collect talent, but

12:20

you gotta make a team. And what

12:22

they had, they had enough culture creators

12:24

that returned, that's the retention part of

12:26

it. They recruited high level players, Stephen

12:29

Castle absolutely dominating defensively throughout the tournament.

12:32

And then they go to the portal and find the

12:34

right fix. Cal's a little

12:36

bit behind the curve in terms of

12:38

his model. But he's got $5

12:41

million to work on it this year,

12:43

next year at Arkansas. Okay.

12:46

But here's Stephen A. It's

12:50

not his model, Coach adopted this. He wanted

12:52

the one and dones. He felt that if

12:54

he got the most five star, four and

12:56

five star recruits, it would give him a

12:58

leg up on everyone else. Now granted, maybe

13:00

they were just coming to go to the

13:02

NBA. And

13:04

that was just to stop off. That was, you

13:07

know, that's what college basketball, college

13:09

football is a feeding system. The NBA used to have,

13:11

you know, you could go straight from high school to

13:14

the NBA. Cal wanted this model.

13:16

Coach K was so envious, he adopted the

13:18

model. Dan Hurley says, you know what? I'm

13:21

gonna find guys, I'm gonna go to the portal, I'm gonna

13:23

get me guys with some experience. And that's what more teams

13:25

are starting to do is going

13:27

to the portal. Hey, how many minutes can

13:29

you give me? How much money you got

13:32

for me? But I like this because he's

13:34

saying that I believe that with seasoned guys,

13:36

guys that are sophomore, guys that are junior,

13:38

I can convince them to play together. I

13:40

can convince them to be unselfish. It's not

13:43

about where I was a five star. I

13:45

got 25 shots in high school. I

13:48

need to get 25 shots in college. So

13:50

either Coach Salopari Needs to change the

13:52

model, go back to where it was, try to

13:54

get, hey, I Understand you want the best guys,

13:57

but the best guys wanna come and be one

13:59

and done. They'd I agree with you

14:01

go to. It's hard to get young

14:03

guys to play together for an extended

14:05

period of time. With they've been used

14:07

to being the Mayor their entire lives.

14:11

Occurred outside you this of a love the

14:13

codes or the point or shannon a coach

14:15

brought up. For. Do

14:17

was attempting. Twenty three

14:20

again. Naval. One of

14:22

the nation's leader, his three pointers made

14:24

in three point attempts and last night

14:26

can only get up with good. The

14:29

only good for seven three point shot

14:31

yes and only one individual had an

14:33

assist. Those are incredible stats to bring

14:35

to the forefront because it just shows

14:37

that no matter what we want to

14:40

point to about what we saw from

14:42

new Know castle anybody else ostensibly d

14:44

Feds v One Million as known as

14:46

happy as ship Dfs is what it

14:49

was about our that offing along and

14:51

I in and against his will and

14:53

a biggest one is that even the

14:55

army. listen. You could say which

14:57

one he seven for on know he's

14:59

got a future of a they would

15:01

cause a He was impressive and up

15:03

after about twenty not succeed in the

15:06

sensitively tournament. What do I speak, it's

15:08

a blemish to some degree that you

15:10

wait ten minutes at a national Championship

15:12

game held scoreless. Yes, That

15:14

that that coming especially when you know

15:17

and everybody knew. He was out there. I

15:19

want to get it right there at it for the

15:21

able to hard they played that they just can't. Hang.

15:23

First of all, I'm not giving it out auto.

15:25

Let me be clear about this and nobody is

15:27

getting credit for playing hard for Nasa's okay well,

15:29

and we're not doing that. I had a nice.

15:32

Added ever had and I was on. I've

15:34

never seen any body not play hard would

15:37

it? It had a great man know what

15:39

I would I think given them that doing

15:41

a deal a great job. Later as the

15:43

gay progressed pushing him father and fathers and

15:45

before other out so it was about to

15:47

a one point shot or to fully shot

15:49

a brief was shot leg that a big

15:52

bet you know. your side of those who like

15:54

to read for that's right it's way of that's right

15:56

yeah what's the legs out of it you know it's

15:58

with his legs yeah the math And

16:00

I just want to say huge shout to Newton and

16:02

Spencer because they'll obviously be gone next season We'll see

16:04

what's castle if he's one and done Alright

16:07

much more in Yukon a little bit later when

16:09

we come no, we're going to the Warriors from

16:11

the NBA They beat the jazz Sunday They're currently

16:13

tense in the West and pushing for a playoff

16:16

appearance As are the Lakers who

16:18

sit one spot above them in the standings Golden

16:20

State faces the LA Lakers tonight Here's Clay Thompson

16:22

on Draymond Green and forces You're

16:26

not out there it's like

16:28

a piece of us is gone and Me

16:32

and Steph are really nice guys like probably

16:36

too nice no and We

16:39

can never Be ourselves and

16:41

have the freedom we do on the court Without

16:45

you so it does hurt

16:47

But at the end of the day we've been

16:49

through so many battles reached the mountaintop

16:52

Been down the mountain had to climb back up Got

16:55

there again, and now we have

16:57

another real shot at this and it's

16:59

been like a couple tough years But

17:02

still we're still fighting. We're still

17:05

We're still in the mix Hmm,

17:09

I'm gonna join the party. Congratulations. I hear

17:11

you. Thank you. Yes, you have a glow

17:17

Impressed with their run. Oh my goodness. Yes.

17:19

Absolutely the discipline that they showed I've never seen

17:22

a team execute a game plan to take away

17:24

three points shooting the way they did last night

17:26

because typically You overreact to getting scored on in

17:28

the paint. Yeah, they never did and as a

17:30

result They completely shut that water off. It was

17:32

so impressive All right,

17:34

Stephen. Let me ask you this we'll get back to

17:37

the NBA. Obviously you just heard clay on

17:39

Draymond What's your reaction to what he had to say about him?

17:41

Well, it's very touching and

17:43

I don't and I don't say that facetiously I'm

17:46

not Trying to make fun

17:48

of it. I love clay Thompson always have I

17:51

thought that When they won the

17:53

championship against Boston regardless of the fact that

17:55

he wasn't on his a game He had

17:57

come back from that two-year hiatus due to

17:59

the injuries. And so I've always been an

18:01

incredible, incredible fan of Clay Thompson. I think

18:03

that he's one of the top five shooters

18:06

in the history of basketball. Some would argue

18:08

about that, but I think it's a worthy

18:10

debate and discussion because I think that he

18:12

is that elite. Um, and what

18:14

he said about Draymond, I appreciate him saying

18:16

that. I don't think it's entirely true when

18:18

he said, you know, me and Steph, a

18:21

nice guy, maybe that's Steph, Clay, you know,

18:23

and I say this complimentary, Clay know how

18:25

to get at you now. He hated God.

18:27

It doesn't say anything. When you are clownish,

18:29

Clay will let you know when you somebody

18:31

that's out of pocket on the opposition, Clay

18:33

will let you know, just watch some of

18:36

his press conferences. Uh, but these brothers are

18:38

elite and I get what they're bringing to

18:40

the table and I sort of see what's

18:42

happening here in terms of him saying what

18:44

he said about Draymond. I appreciate it. I

18:46

think he's right about that. They are not

18:48

the same team without Draymond Green, make no

18:50

mistake about it. But I also think Shannon

18:53

legs, it's

18:55

an indication that the end is

18:57

near and they know it. Now

19:02

you know me and you know, this is

19:04

what I do for a living. So Shannon,

19:06

it's no secret that I, you know, I

19:08

know quite a few owners in the league

19:10

and quite a few executives in the league.

19:12

I ain't guessing. I'm not, I'm, I'm telling

19:15

you right now that regardless of, of, of,

19:17

you know, the fact that they're going to

19:19

make the play in, you ain't

19:21

spending that money if you Joe Lake up and Peter

19:23

Gubler and stuff like that to be in the play

19:25

in, you know, if you, you

19:27

know, you could, you could spend less money and

19:30

make the play in. And so when

19:32

you look at the Golden State Warriors and the

19:34

fact that you have been battling through the

19:36

play in last year, you get to the semi-finals

19:39

and stuff like that, you do get to a

19:41

point where it's like, would you love to

19:43

keep these guys together? Sure. But will the money

19:45

work? That's the question mark. Steph

19:47

Curry ain't going nowhere. I don't give a damn how much money

19:49

he wanted or whatever. He got three years left. 51 this year,

19:52

55 next year, 59 a year after that. And

19:55

damn it. If he wanted another contract essentially, you could give him

19:57

right now to pay him a hundred million. They would do it.

20:00

Okay, and they should keep step-curry. Dre

20:03

is locked up. You've got him

20:06

for four years, three years after this one.

20:08

Okay, and he's locked in at that hundred

20:10

million dollar deal. Clay is the wild card

20:12

because Clay may want to stay in Golden

20:14

State but in the same breath he's gonna

20:16

need to be, he's gonna feel the need

20:18

to be appreciated and if the

20:20

money isn't right, which it's entirely plausible that

20:22

that may be the case, then they

20:24

may have to move in a different direction. And so

20:28

I got that from listening to them

20:30

yesterday a little bit and hearing

20:32

what Clay was saying and why. It's almost

20:34

like you reminiscing. You guys would know this

20:36

better than me football, basketball, both of you

20:38

professionals. You know when a guy speak in

20:40

a certain kind of way like that, it's

20:43

like paying homage to each

20:45

other and what you've accomplished.

20:47

You do that when

20:49

you feel that the end is

20:52

near. Yeah,

20:55

I think, listen, I think first of all, I

20:58

love what you said, Stephen A, about loving Clay Thompson. I

21:00

couldn't adequately put into words how much I admire and

21:03

respect Clay Thompson. Same here. On and off the court,

21:05

the way he conducts himself and has throughout his career.

21:08

Look, Draymond opened the door, Clay said whatever you

21:10

want, be as honest as you want to be

21:12

and I think Clay Thompson, he handled that the

21:14

right way about a guy that has helped them

21:16

win, has been next to him through a lot

21:18

of battles. You can't tell me in the moment

21:21

that some of these things have happened and that's

21:23

what Clay Thompson was thinking. Because he's not in

21:25

Steph Curry's body language, she said it all in

21:27

the Orlando rejection. When they're fighting for their lives

21:29

to hold on to a play in Spies, Houston

21:31

on their heels and he gets ejected from that

21:33

game. So look, Clay handled that, I think politically

21:35

correct with a teammate while giving him credit for

21:37

all the winning. I think he held back a

21:39

little bit on what they really feel. Here's

21:42

the thing with Golden State. This

21:44

is going to be, I think, a very

21:46

difficult road. They're going to probably have to

21:48

win two single elimination road games in the

21:50

play in. That's most likely what they're looking

21:52

at, especially if they lose the game to the Lakers tonight.

21:55

I don't see them escaping that. I think they're going to have

21:57

a difficult time even making it out of the play in into

21:59

a... first round series and if they do that I don't think

22:02

they can escape that. So it's

22:04

easy for us to say well then what

22:06

happens is is it for them let's blow it

22:08

up let's start moving people that's not resize clay

22:10

let's get rid of drama that's easy to

22:12

say it it's a lot more difficult to

22:14

actually see what that looks like with

22:17

two teams coming together to try to replenish

22:19

for the Golden State Warriors something to stay

22:21

competitive around Steph Curry while getting rid of

22:23

those players. So it's easy to say it

22:25

you got to give me not hypotheticals you

22:28

got to give me a concrete solution to

22:30

what that would look like for the Warriors in

22:32

terms of breaking up this core in the summer

22:34

but there's no question in my mind Steve Allen

22:36

if you agree Shannon I

22:39

don't think we're going to see this core

22:41

group contend again they're not going to make

22:43

a legitimate run at the Western

22:45

Conference or at an NBA championship they're just

22:47

not they can be competitive they can be

22:49

a play and maybe they make the playoff

22:51

series this isn't a team anymore that could

22:53

do what is currently constructed. I

22:56

agree with you legs I agree with a lot what

22:58

you said Stephen also I believe two things can be

23:00

true I believe that they

23:02

would not have been a four-time NBA

23:04

champ without Dray Montgomery I also believe

23:06

that Dray Montgomery has allowed his emotions

23:09

to get the best of him in

23:11

certain situations they could have easily been

23:13

a five-time champion I mean many people

23:15

believe had he not got suspended game

23:17

for they wouldn't they would have won

23:19

the series five against the Cavaliers right

23:21

so for for in that situation and

23:23

it's time see I'm a firm this

23:25

is what I look at guys I'm

23:27

a firm believer the greatest apology is

23:29

change behavior you can't tell me you're

23:31

sorry and continuously do the same things

23:33

over and over now Dray Montgomery says

23:35

I know I let my brothers down

23:37

and I promise you I will not

23:39

put myself in that situation again and

23:41

what has he done since game four

23:43

suspension is continuously over and over allow

23:45

his emotions to get the best of

23:47

him and get thrown out of ballgame

23:49

and then he has to come back

23:51

if his guys I'm sorry it's not

23:53

gonna happen again and thanks to

23:55

Steph Curry a lot of time his heroics

23:58

he's able to bail them out How

24:00

many times must you say I'm sorry and

24:02

not change the behavior before I believe that

24:04

this is who you are and this is

24:06

what you're going to continually do. I

24:09

also agree with what you said at the end legs.

24:11

I don't believe this team

24:13

is not in contention because

24:15

of injuries. That's

24:19

just not good enough anymore. So

24:21

what are you going to do? Are you, are you willing to train?

24:23

Are you willing to say, okay, what

24:26

can you do? We can, because I

24:28

believe comminga and I believe Steph Curry

24:30

should be untouchable. Now, Draymond, Draymond

24:32

is like you said, Steven, and he has three

24:34

years left on his deal, but what are you

24:36

going to do? Moody,

24:39

what, what pieces can you Moody

24:41

and Wiggins, what can you get

24:43

to go along with comminga and

24:46

Steph and potentially Draymond to

24:48

make you serious contenders? Because as

24:52

constructed currently and going to be a year

24:54

older next year, I don't believe

24:56

they complete next year. I don't believe they're not in

24:58

contention because of injuries. I

25:01

got to tell y'all this. I mean, I

25:03

don't know if the lightening might strike me down or

25:05

something. First of all, I'm not, I

25:07

believe what you're both saying in terms

25:09

of their future is presently constructed. I

25:12

still think they got a chance this year. Now, let

25:14

me tell you this. I think you

25:16

have a chance when you can shoot the basketball

25:18

from the perimeter and when you can hit free

25:20

throws, when you can do

25:22

those two things, you're in any

25:24

game because sometimes teams will beat

25:27

themselves. And anytime you can shoot, you

25:29

can put the ball in the hole. You got a

25:31

chance. So I look at Golden State Warriors

25:33

this season, not beyond the season, but this

25:35

season, and I say, they have a chance.

25:37

The one thing that I will say and

25:39

that continues to boggle my mind when they

25:41

won those championships, you had a Andrew Bogan

25:44

and a Josh Jaffa Julia, people like that

25:46

side, yeah, where you

25:48

weren't relying on Draymond to be

25:51

the five. When I think about

25:54

who the champions are, which is your

25:56

cage, okay? How in God's name, you're

25:58

the warriors and you want to compete.

26:00

and you don't have a sizable opponent

26:02

just to throw a body around. That's

26:04

why I bring up guys like the

26:06

Demarcus cousins of the world and various

26:08

others who could potentially be out there.

26:10

Just a big body to throw in

26:12

there and sort of somewhat clog the

26:14

middle in some kind

26:17

of physical capacity. So you don't

26:19

ask Draymond with his undersized self

26:21

against these bigger guys to go

26:23

up against them. I don't know

26:25

why the Golden State Warriors have

26:27

never addressed something like that. But in the end

26:30

this season, if Clay, and

26:32

again, the Golden State Warriors shouldn't be the favorite,

26:34

but what if Clay got hot and

26:37

Kamegan Pajimsky are hitting jumpers too?

26:39

Cause we know what Steph's going to do. Think about

26:41

that for a second. And then say, are

26:43

you sure they can't knock somebody off? I

26:46

think they can guys. I

26:49

think the thing is that when they won

26:51

those titles and they went to that depth

26:53

lineup, very few teams had something to counter

26:55

that. Now hell, everybody goes, goes

26:57

to a small lineup late in the

26:59

ball game. Don't nobody have their big,

27:02

unless he Joel and be a Nicole,

27:04

a yo-kitch out there. Everybody goes to

27:06

that. Small and Anthony Davis. Don't get

27:08

Anthony Davis. Right. So you got Anthony

27:10

Davis who's really a stretch that's playing

27:12

the fight. Are you disappointed that Anthony

27:14

Davis is your five and he has

27:16

to go up against Draymond? Are you

27:18

really disappointed in that? So now you

27:20

get LeBron, you get D-Lo, you get

27:22

Rui and you get guys like that.

27:24

You look at Ant-Man. Now probably you

27:26

would take Rudy go bear out and you

27:29

go with Nas, Reed and cat. So,

27:31

but you got lineups. Now a

27:33

lot more teams have lineups to

27:35

counter the depth lineup that Golden

27:37

State made famous. A

27:39

hundred percent. Right. And look, here's the other

27:41

thing. Just go back to a year ago.

27:44

I don't think I've ever seen a team

27:46

look more swallowed up physically than the Warriors

27:48

were in that series with the Raiders. They

27:50

look small, they look feeble. They were thrown

27:52

around. They couldn't get separation on the perimeter

27:54

because the length of the Lakers jumping out,

27:56

they completely took Clay Thompson out of the

27:58

series. And that's hard. me to get out

28:01

of my mind and now just fast forward

28:03

a year, the Warriors are more inconsistent offensively

28:05

than they've ever been. To your point, you're

28:07

100% right. Like on a given night, can

28:09

Clay Thompson be that difference maker? Get that

28:11

hot. Yes. The problem is you can't

28:15

really know a logical argument that you

28:18

know what you're going to get from

28:20

Clay Thompson and that's the problem. And

28:23

let me throw this out there bigs.

28:25

Like I mentioned DeMarcus Cousins. I mentioned,

28:27

I didn't mention Andre Drummond. I thought

28:30

Oklahoma City, for example, should have went out

28:32

and got an Andre Drummond. You know, somebody

28:34

that just going to grab you 15, 23,

28:36

your weakness.

28:40

I'm looking at some of these executives

28:42

and I'm wondering what the hell are

28:44

you thinking? Because you look at

28:46

the pieces around these other teams. I'm looking at

28:48

a Golden State. I'm looking at an Oklahoma City

28:50

and stuff like that. And just ask yourself if

28:53

they got side, if they got somebody that can

28:55

get an offensive rebound and give you an additional

28:57

opportunity at a shot, you're trying to tell me

28:59

that can't help you. And somehow, some way

29:01

you see these decisions being made by some

29:03

of these teams. Well, maybe they, you know,

29:06

this player might be a problem for this

29:08

coach or whatever. I might get the hell

29:10

over it. I'm trying to win the more

29:12

advanced, the more advanced, the more money I

29:14

collect. Excuse if I'm an owner, I'm thinking

29:16

about stuff like that. These guys got to

29:18

answer these kind of questions because there's some

29:20

big boys out there and I mentioned two

29:22

of them who can make a contribution to

29:24

an NBA team and why they ain't in

29:26

the end. You know what, especially the Marcus

29:28

Cousins, why you ain't on a roster right now?

29:30

Don't make no sense to me. It don't make no sense to

29:32

me. It really doesn't. Steven, one of the

29:35

handful of games that I went to this year was

29:37

the Lakers in Golden State. And guess what?

29:39

Clay Thompson looked like the old Clay Thompson because

29:42

he had 17 like the

29:44

first quarter, he ended up having 21 at

29:46

the half and he is still got hot

29:48

and shot the Lakers out of the building.

29:50

Even after LeBron had a virtue, also had

29:52

a 40 point game, but was sensational, they

29:55

weren't over, wasn't able to overcome that hard

29:57

shooting by a play Thompson. But you're right.

30:00

But what we haven't seen from Clay

30:02

is that level of consistency, Steven A,

30:05

over the last several years, since he came up,

30:07

come off that injury. Could he do it? You're

30:09

asking him. So basically he's going to need to

30:11

be that type of way. You got

30:13

to win 16 games in the playoffs. Do

30:15

you believe he could, in your

30:18

30 years of coming to basketball, coming

30:20

to game of basketball, do you believe

30:22

the Steph Curry that you know can

30:25

rear his head and do that over

30:27

the course of an NBA title run?

30:29

I think Steph Curry needs help. And

30:31

I think, and I think, and I

30:33

think with the pieces that they have,

30:35

if Clay give you a couple of

30:37

big games and Prudinski gives you a

30:40

couple of good games from the men,

30:42

the menga, Andrew Wiggins, those four guys,

30:44

if two of them can give you

30:46

accuracy from the perimeter, I think Golden

30:48

State can beat practically anybody but Denver

30:50

in the post season. Well,

30:53

we're talking about, we're talking about their ceiling.

30:55

The problem is that they so rarely have

30:57

hit it. By the way, I want to

30:59

be clear. We're not just laying this at

31:01

the feet of Clay Thompson's inconsistency. Wiggins has

31:04

been inconsistent. Paul's been

31:06

inconsistent. Kominga has been pretty

31:08

solid here for a few months now. I think I

31:10

know what to expect out of Kominga now, most nights,

31:12

but it's not just Clay. It's the

31:14

fact that they so rarely hit their

31:17

ceiling collectively. And we'd have to talk

31:19

about replicating that night after night. First

31:21

of all, it's just two playing games, most likely on the

31:24

road, most likely. I think that to me is

31:26

a reach to think that we're going to see that

31:28

look, nobody wants to see this team advance more than

31:30

I do. Cause I love watching Steph Curry play basketball.

31:32

Give me more Steph Curry. That's what I want. I'm

31:35

just being realistic about what I've seen all year. I

31:37

sure hope it's not over though. Cause that's an end of

31:39

an era, three of them

31:41

that I've been so fun to watch. Well, if

31:44

Clay is willing to accept a lot less,

31:46

which I don't think he would nor should,

31:48

then it's a different

31:50

discussion. But the fact is, is that you can't

31:52

pay him with some of them young bloods on

31:54

a come up. You're going to, they're going

31:56

to be looking to get paid themselves. And, you

31:59

know, Clay is no, longer the same 43 million

32:01

dollar player that he once was even though

32:03

I think Klay Thompson could be a vital

32:05

piece for a whole bunch of teams in

32:07

the NBA. Hey, Steven A. Steven A. Molly

32:10

just said for you this for me, Steven

32:12

A. Lane, you know sometimes your old lady

32:14

look better to a new set of eyes

32:16

so maybe since Klay Thompson go look better

32:18

somewhere else than he would in Golden State.

32:20

Yeah. So you have to use the term old lady

32:23

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32:25

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32:27

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32:29

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that happened. UConn and South Carolina both

35:00

completed impressive runs with national championships. But

35:02

which team was more dominant this season?

35:05

So UConn beat all of its opponents

35:07

in the tournament by at least 14

35:09

points. But South Carolina, they

35:12

finished the season unceded.

35:16

Shannon, obviously this is

35:18

a tough question, right? They both had impressive

35:20

runs. So I know it's a tough one to answer.

35:23

Which run would you say was more dominant?

35:25

Is it Dawn, Staley in South Carolina, or

35:27

Dan Hurley in UConn? Yeah,

35:29

Amali, Stephen, we're splitting hairs here because any

35:31

time you won a national championship, it's hard

35:33

to say. And it's like, which is heavier,

35:35

a ton of bricks or a ton of

35:38

feathers when they actually both wear a ton.

35:40

They both won the national championship. But I'm

35:42

going to say South Carolina because they got

35:44

to they were on the cusp last year.

35:46

And the team that knocked them off, they

35:48

got that team back with a with a

35:50

red hot. Kaitlin Clark, land the nation in

35:52

scoring, land the nation in the fifth, the

35:54

two time player of the year. I mean,

35:56

we know all the records, most

35:59

of the CS that. Most points ever scored,

36:01

so forth and so on. And they were

36:04

up against it. And the goals 38 and

36:06

0 after they, all the guys,

36:08

think about it, the five starters go to

36:10

the WNBA. I think they had a sixth

36:12

also that came off the bench and go

36:14

to the WNBA. They bring back a younger

36:16

group and finished the

36:18

task that they were unable to finish last

36:20

year. It was an unbelievable run. I think

36:22

this was the most impressive because this is

36:24

a young team. And the way God was

36:26

able to guide these young ladies throughout the

36:28

tournament, really only challenged once,

36:31

a junk card docile to hit that shot

36:33

against Tennessee and the FVV tournament, are three

36:35

pointer, probably the only three she's ever attempted

36:37

and she made it. So I'm gonna say

36:40

the University of South Carolina Lady Game Cops.

36:42

Listen, I can't really disagree with you, but

36:45

I just gotta give props to UConn and

36:47

what we saw from them. 37 and three

36:49

is 37 and three. They

36:51

did suffer a blowout loss against, I think it

36:53

was Seton Hall earlier this year, if I remember

36:56

correctly. I know they lost to Kansas. They

36:59

lost to Seton Hall by 15, just looking at this right

37:01

now. And then of course they lost, that's

37:04

who they got blown out by by

37:06

Creighton. But I'm looking at them and

37:09

they're not, they're dominance during the NCAA

37:11

tournament, being the reigning defending national champions,

37:14

getting everybody's A game and still showing

37:17

up having lost the five starters that

37:19

they, the five players that they lost,

37:22

losing the personnel that they lost, coming

37:24

back again, going 37 and three, defending

37:27

their crown and doing it in a myriad

37:29

of ways that they did it. And it's

37:32

such convincing lopsided fashion. When I look at

37:34

South Carolina, they lucked up in the conference

37:36

tournament against Tennessee with that last shot. No

37:38

doubt about that, we can't forget that. Obviously

37:41

Indiana gave them a run for their money

37:43

in the NCAA tournament. LSU gave them a

37:46

game in a conference championship game as well.

37:48

It's not to take anything away from them.

37:51

They won, they're unblemished, they're undefeated, Doris Daly's

37:53

phenomenal, all of that's true. But when I

37:55

look at UConn and I'm thinking about what

37:57

you got, which was everybody's A game. because

38:00

you're the reigning defending national champions and

38:02

you lost all the personnel that you

38:04

lost and you had to incorporate so

38:06

many new bodies and you still went

38:08

out there and when it was time

38:10

at the most you answered the call

38:12

in very very convincing fashion. I

38:14

got to give UConn some love in that

38:16

regard and say to some degree this day

38:18

their year seemed a bit more dominant because

38:20

of how it ended. I

38:23

think the thing is when you look at the Indiana game,

38:25

Steven, they were up by 22 and then

38:27

they got took their foot off the gas because they

38:29

were blowing Indiana out and then all of a sudden

38:31

they get careless, you know, they start showboarding and it

38:33

happens from time to time. That's what young kids do.

38:36

They start, you know, looking at

38:38

the crowd and throwing their hands up and trying things and the

38:40

next thing you know, kids I see it in the NFL all

38:42

the time. I know. All the time. You

38:44

see it in the NBA. The NBA

38:46

and stuff like that. That's right. And the NBA, yeah,

38:48

but especially the NFL. Remember what we

38:50

just saw? What was that? Was it Sunday that

38:54

the Clippers came back from 26 against Cleveland?

38:57

That's right. So we see

39:00

that teams have these big leagues. They're

39:02

doing their dancing and doing their thing

39:04

and the next thing you know they

39:06

find themselves on the losing end. But

39:08

when you look at South Carolina, they

39:10

beat Iowa by double digits. They beat

39:12

UConn by double digits. They beat LSU

39:14

twice. They beat a red hot NC

39:17

State team. The teams that

39:19

they beat and in the fashion in which they

39:21

were beating them, Steven, they made up and there's

39:24

something to be said about 38. No,

39:26

the 10th ladies team to go

39:28

undefeated in a season and

39:30

considering what they lost, Aliyah

39:33

Boston, the number one overall draft pick. Like

39:35

I said, they had five, I think five

39:37

or six young ladies that went to the

39:39

WNBA and to bring back basically an entirely

39:42

different team. And Raven

39:44

Johnson had those demons. Steven

39:46

A. Caitlin Clark is

39:48

10 feet away. Say, you're

39:51

the last thing on my mind. Exactly. And she said, you

39:53

know what? I might not shoot it. I might not score

39:56

over two or three points this year, but I'm going to

39:58

make sure you don't have the type of team. game

40:00

that you had last year. That's true and that's

40:02

exactly what she did. Major props to her. I

40:04

can't argue with you about that. Those are very

40:06

valid points but we saw what we saw from

40:09

UConn as well and we saw how dominant they

40:11

were and we saw and Hurley has established himself

40:13

as the best coach in college basketball. The UConn

40:15

program has established themselves as the elite of the

40:17

blue bloods in existence because of their 25-year run.

40:19

What they've been doing since 1999 nobody

40:22

compares so we got to take all of

40:24

those things into consideration as well and them

40:27

closing the deal. Coming off a national championship

40:29

with those losses with everybody gunning for

40:31

them and they still answered the

40:33

call in a different albeit a

40:35

different way they still got it

40:37

done. Yeah returning just two starters

40:39

losing five guys to the draft.

40:41

Yep. South Carolina now is when

40:43

you think of preeminent women's college

40:45

programs, the Tennessee's, the UConn's. Now

40:48

you got to think of the Lady Gamecocks. I

40:51

don't know why but when you

40:54

think about it Steven A. UConn is

40:57

really never men's have never seen

40:59

a received the love and the

41:01

adulation like a Carolina, like a

41:03

Duke. That's fair. Like

41:05

a Kentucky and I don't know why because

41:07

it's not like they ain't got but they

41:10

the NBA ain't littered with UConn guys. Well I

41:12

think I think I can answer that I can

41:14

answer that I think Mike Szyzewski being that Duke

41:16

played a role. I think Roy Williams playing in

41:18

North Carolina played a role. Coach Smith before

41:21

that obviously as so but but also even though

41:23

Calhoun was well known as well. Calhoun was very

41:26

well known but there was so many changes that

41:28

took place within the Big East that took away

41:30

some of the yeah we're right we can't ignore

41:32

that. I'm telling you don't leave the 80s and

41:34

stuff like that. It was just a different

41:38

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41:40

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41:42

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41:44

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43:59

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44:01

the best team in the great

44:03

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44:05

first time stealing the Dallas Cowboys

44:07

shine. Okay, club

44:10

Shay Shay, tell me this, where

44:12

does Houston rank in the AFC with

44:15

Diggs now joining CJ Stroud? Well,

44:19

I think they're clearly

44:21

behind Kansas City and Baltimore in my

44:23

estimation. The

44:26

uncertainty with Houston leaves

44:28

me. I would say

44:31

probably 4th or 5th. I'm

44:34

not so sure I'm putting them in front of

44:36

Miami. I'm not putting them in front of... No,

44:38

I'm not. Because here's the thing, Steve, if you

44:40

take Miami and bring them to Houston, you know

44:43

you're putting them in a controlled environment, right? Yes.

44:46

And you know what happens when you put them... Okay,

44:49

so I'm going to say, I think they're

44:51

behind Buffalo. I still

44:53

believe in Josh Allen. Let's see what

44:55

they do in the draft. I would say 4th or 5th. Come

44:59

on, Shannon. Shannon. Come on,

45:01

Shannon. Josh

45:03

Allen, you lost Gabe Davis and

45:06

Stefan Diggs. Right. And Stefan

45:08

Diggs. And they're going to have some changeover on

45:10

the defensive side of the ball because of injuries

45:12

and stuff as well. Come on, Shannon. You can't

45:15

put Buffalo above Houston. Not right now. But

45:18

if Josh Allen is what many

45:20

believe him to be, has he

45:22

supposed... I

45:24

think he's been good. In big

45:27

moments, he hasn't been what he needs to

45:29

be. See, I know

45:31

what you're saying. Look, I love Nico Collins.

45:33

I love Tank Dale. I love CJ Stroud

45:36

and what he's able to do. I

45:38

love that. And by the way,

45:40

remember they got mixed in there. Yes.

45:43

But a lot of teams have had a good one

45:45

season. Let's see if they can replicate that.

45:47

Let's see if they can put... Because guess what? Guess

45:50

what we got now before them, Steve and A? Something

45:53

that you didn't have for them last year. I'll

45:57

stop it. I'll stop it. Let me tell you

45:59

why. I can't believe you're saying this, this stuff

46:01

is blasphemy right now. How is this coming out of the

46:03

mouth? Because here's why, Shannon, here's why. I

46:06

get Baltimore, Kansas City, Kansas City, ready to defend

46:08

the champions. We all know the two times, we

46:10

know what they bring to the table, okay? You

46:12

look at Baltimore, Lamar Jackson

46:14

got to the AFC Championship game, we know

46:17

what this brother can bring, all right? And

46:19

obviously, Monk, being there as your offensive coordinator,

46:21

the stability that Harbaugh brings, their defensive, a

46:23

bunch of rough riders, we get that part,

46:25

right? Miami and Buffalo have given

46:27

us no reason to be sold on them. With

46:30

the personnel they had in place, they couldn't get

46:32

over the hump in Buffalo. Miami, don't get me

46:34

started once you get them away from near

46:36

South Beach, or as you would say,

46:38

a controlled environment, a controlled environment on

46:40

South Beach. Okay, so if you talk

46:43

about head-to-head matchup, you got the cheater

46:45

in Houston, I understand that. Ain't

46:48

no answer for that, brother. I do understand that,

46:50

but I'm saying you got to play against a

46:52

whole bunch of other people. Right.

46:54

Miami giving us to believe in

46:56

them when they get away from

46:58

a controlled environment, or did I

47:00

say elite weather near South Beach?

47:02

I'm sorry, I got Houston at

47:04

three. I got Houston at number three. I

47:08

would probably put, like I said, if you

47:10

put them at four or five, if you

47:12

put them at four, I'm not disappointed. I

47:14

still believe, because here's the thing, Steve, you're

47:17

telling me you have the level of expectations

47:19

last year for the Texans that you have

47:21

for them this year? No,

47:23

no, definitely more this year. That's because I believe

47:25

in CJ Stroud. Like you said, you believe in

47:27

Josh Allen. Right. So

47:29

now you didn't have expectations. They

47:31

surprised you. Guess what happens

47:34

when someone does something, and now

47:36

you have those expectations. You expect

47:38

more from said person. Okay. Okay.

47:41

So I expect more. And so,

47:45

hey, here's where I got Josh Allen. I mean, can he

47:47

disappoint me by going... All

47:49

I'm saying is this. Listen, Miami and Buffalo got

47:51

expectations. Oh, yeah, for sure. For

47:54

sure. All right. But I think you

47:56

think Houston has more expectations than both of them. those

48:00

teams now. I just think they'll be

48:02

better than both of them. I think

48:04

they'll be better than both of them.

48:06

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