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Are the Suns leaning on their starting unit. Is
0:02
that a bit of a concern for It is a bit of
0:04
concern for me but I want to harken back
0:06
to what I said at the beginning of That
0:09
was a dumb question. And
0:11
the other point that I wanted to make is that these
0:14
are the things that justifiably
0:16
irritate
0:17
a Kevin Durant. You're
0:20
a two time champion a two time NBA finals MVP
0:23
a career twenty seven point per game You
0:26
know what you've been to You went to a finals
0:28
against the Jamie Heat in 2012
0:31
for crying You've been to conference
0:33
finals and somebody is asking a question
0:36
about you winning a playoff
0:38
game. That's insulting. I
0:41
also actually think it's insulting to Devin Booker
0:44
and OK these guys were in the finals
0:46
two years ago without So
0:48
I don't I don't understand
0:49
I
0:52
just looked at his numbers You realize
0:55
over the last five years ladies and gentlemen Devin
0:57
Booker has averaged a minimum of twenty five point This
1:00
brother is something special. OK. Having
1:03
said all of that I need to
1:05
see Monty Williams use his bench a bit
1:07
more because that's the
1:10
impression that you gave when you first acquired
1:12
Katie that we had some dudes
1:15
with Craig Koji and others that we
1:17
could bring off the bench that could do some things for us.
1:19
It ain't just about the big four with
1:21
CP three Booker Katie and
1:24
DeAndre. And you gave that impression
1:26
and you taught you gave the to
1:28
trust come postseason time. Now I know that
1:30
coaches religiously
1:33
almost they shorten We
1:36
get all of that or short We get all
1:38
of that. But Phoenix is one of those rare teams
1:40
that can't afford to do You have
1:42
no chance of winning it all
1:45
if you're going to rely on six guys
1:48
that much throughout the course
1:50
of these playoffs. That's
1:53
my concern. I'm not concerned
1:55
specifically about this series because I do think
1:58
the matchup and I do think the game. dictates
2:01
the rotation okay and if you look at the
2:03
end of that first half last night. Phoenix
2:05
was in trouble. They go
2:07
on the 11 to run. Let's
2:10
acknowledge Tory Craig as we had questions about
2:12
the 5th guy right we've talked about this for the last 2
2:15
months the 5th guy who's the 5th guy who they're great story
2:17
Craig.
2:18
It's my half a game over 2 games, 71%
2:21
from the field. He's
2:23
he's ball.
2:25
I think in this matchup it is
2:28
important. To play
2:30
your starters and I'm not saying it's got to be 44 and 42
2:33
minutes like it was last night for the next 5, you know 4, 5, 6 games,
2:36
whatever you are for 5 games, whatever it is.
2:40
If they get past this team. They're
2:42
not going to need to play their starters 45 minutes a
2:44
night against the Denver Nuggets. Because
2:47
I think the Denver Nuggets are to beat Minnesota Denver
2:49
doesn't have as good of a bench as the Clippers when
2:51
you're bringing off guys like Terrence Mann Norman
2:53
pal that they supply me these are guys that could
2:56
start on a lot of teams.
2:57
Mason Plummy has been a starter. You
3:00
know, Norman pal has been a starter at times. So
3:03
that's why it's not my concern my concern is
3:05
not you know the toll
3:08
of this series and play even intense basketball
3:10
games. I think the starters are needed in
3:12
this series to play 37 to 42 minutes again. Listen,
3:16
I think that the issue for the Suns
3:18
will be late in the series 4th
3:21
quarter. One of those 3 guys is
3:23
off especially Paul, you know 18 years
3:26
in the league a little older didn't play great
3:28
if didn't score a lot of first game where are
3:30
they going to get a little help from who's going to
3:32
get them a basket
3:33
in the last 6 7 minutes of a tight game. You
3:35
hit it right in the head Westbrook Gordon
3:38
is a he's got thoughts. He's
3:40
got tremendous range and he's been in big games before
3:42
piles of pain in the neck man's good.
3:45
I got the two centers Kawhi's a
3:47
staple. I think this bench
3:49
will be a big factor and it doesn't have to be
3:52
a factor for very long. This series is going
3:54
to come right down to the basket
3:56
or two at the end of game seven. These are two
3:58
evenly matched teams. I'd
4:00
be shocked if it isn't. And when you go to a game
4:02
seven, it's a little thing that can tilt it. And
4:05
I think those guys that Clippers can bring
4:07
off the bench and find enough offense out
4:10
of Gordon, Westbrook, Powell. That's
4:13
funny. The game they win, Westbrook doesn't score. The game they lose,
4:15
he has a great offensive game. It's
4:18
weird, but Gordon, Westbrook, Powell,
4:20
man, they get two of those guys hoping
4:22
Leonard, they got a hell of a chance to win. I think the Clippers are
4:24
gonna beat him, and the bench is gonna be one of the reasons why. One
4:27
thing we should note, campaign has been out the first
4:29
two games, nursing
4:31
a sore back. Coming back. And
4:33
there's no update on him right now, but
4:35
at some point I hope he's back this series.
4:38
And he does provide a little bit of lift, and Monty Williams trusts him. He
4:40
played well as a starter when Chris Paul was hurt this year. One
4:43
quick point.
4:45
The Phoenix Suns with 21
4:47
of 29 on mid-range and
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then mid-range jumpers. Both
4:52
CP3 and Kevin
4:54
Durant hit seven to ten of their
4:56
mid-range jumpers. You can't
4:59
have CP3 getting in the paint
5:01
that religiously and being that efficient, and you're going
5:03
to win this series. If you are the Los Angeles Clippers,
5:06
you cannot afford to let that happen. That's why I
5:08
brought up the Zubach thing and dropped coverage, Stephen.
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I'm glad you agree with me, Al. Yes, I did. I did agree
5:13
with you. I said it really sounds awesome. This
5:15
is really you, all of us. Who would you rather have
5:17
moving forward, Katie or Kawhi? Believe
5:19
it or not, it's Kawhi for this series.
5:22
You? Mr. Kevin Durant, president
5:24
of the Kevin Durant Fan Club, wants Kawhi. Listen,
5:26
listen. When did that change? Because
5:29
I'm not just looking at numbers. Both of them
5:31
have at least 25, 5, and 5 in the first two games of the series. We
5:34
get all of that. Kawhi had 38 and 31 last night.
5:37
Here's my issue.
5:38
The aggressiveness of Kawhi
5:40
Leonard is what I'm leaning on. Kawhi
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Leonard, like you said, they blessed him. He went
5:45
after him. He had to give up the ball a little bit more than he had to
5:47
do in game one. He went doubling him. He went going after him in
5:49
game one. The way they did it in game two, we
5:51
get that. But he's looking for his
5:53
shot. He's looking to be aggressive. Kevin
5:57
Durant is looking to make the right play. He's looking
5:59
to make the right play.
5:59
fit in at any moment that
6:02
you give Kawhi Leonard a slither. He
6:04
wants to take over, give him the damn ball. He
6:06
wants to do it. That's the impression that I get when I'm
6:08
watching him. And that's
6:11
what I want from my superstar in
6:13
a series like this. That's why I would say Kawhi. Ball's
6:15
in his hands more.
6:17
He can facilitate a little more. He has to ball
6:19
a lot at the top of the key. He brings the ball to court. He
6:22
can close the game a little
6:24
more. Durant needs Paul, give him the ball,
6:26
certain spots. It's split in hairs. And
6:29
with him on Durant, I love him. But
6:31
for this particular scenario, what I've seen in
6:33
these two games, I want Kawhi. I'd
6:35
pick Kawhi. If I was going to pick
6:38
up, I got to win some games. I'll pick Kawhi
6:40
over Durant. That's a tough ball. By necessity,
6:43
by necessity, my dog, that Kawhi
6:45
has to have the ball. He doesn't have Devin Booker
6:47
on his team. But I like that. But I like that.
6:50
It's true. Fair. I'm not splitting
6:52
hairs here because I learned my lesson last year. And
6:54
you guys asked me a question. Who would you
6:56
rather have in the clutch? Luka or Steph.
6:59
I'm not dealing with people's fans. I really am
7:01
not because they're both fantastic players.
7:03
I'm good with either one. I'm good with either
7:05
one.
7:06
I just so enjoy watching
7:09
Kawhi in the playoffs. Well, truthfully,
7:12
I've gone against him. And I didn't enjoy it. But
7:14
now as a fan, he's special
7:17
in the playoffs. So let me ask you a question.
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How about this? There's never been
7:22
any time when you've watched Kevin Durant and
7:25
you said you're so great. Damn
7:27
it, take the game over.
7:28
We know you can. Just take it over. You've
7:31
never done that ever watching Kevin Durant or
7:33
any star in the league. The most confusing
7:36
time I've ever watched Kevin Durant was
7:39
in the Brooklyn series last year, or I mean the Boston
7:41
series last year in the first round. That was
7:43
confusing. That was a performance I've never seen before.
7:45
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Great to be joined by the man himself.
10:17
He has been winning Alabama quarterback Bryce
10:20
Young. Bryce, thank you so much for being with us.
10:22
Of course. Thank you so much for having me on. Bryce,
10:26
tell me this. I just mentioned it. Why did you decide
10:28
to cancel your remaining pre-draft visits?
10:31
Yeah, for me it was just a decision
10:34
that I made with my team. It was kind of
10:36
more logistics than anything. And I
10:39
wanted to do everything I can to focus
10:41
on getting ready for the draft
10:43
and getting ready for whenever my name is
10:46
called,
10:47
making sure I'm working out in training so that I can
10:49
get my own or whatever franchise it is. Bryce,
10:51
I hope whoever picture goes back and looks at
10:54
the Auburn game from a couple years ago on
10:56
the road down 10-3 in Alabama struggles
10:59
in Auburn down
11:01
10-3
11:02
and you brought that team down the field
11:05
on 97 yards. Here's
11:07
a huge play right now for a completion. You
11:09
had a fourth and seven on that drive that
11:11
you completed. Look at Bryce moving
11:14
around making all these plays. They won in four overtimes.
11:16
That is the drive in a lot of ways that I think
11:19
about when I think about you only because
11:21
you only scored three points. And this is
11:23
deep in the fourth quarter and you had to wear
11:25
a thought to bring your team back. Give me some thoughts on
11:27
that. Go ahead. Yeah, I
11:29
mean this was a super straight moment
11:32
for us as a team. You know,
11:34
everything we do,
11:35
you know, it wasn't the prettiest game offensively.
11:38
Our defense did a great job in that game carrying us. But
11:40
you know, for me and us as a team, you know, I pride myself
11:42
and you know in those moments, you know, being someone
11:45
that as a team that they can look towards and
11:47
you know, know that regardless of what's going on, what happened
11:49
to the rest of the game, that we're good and you know, we're
11:51
always in it. So, you know, this is huge for me and
11:54
for the team just, you know, in a rough game to
11:56
be able to come back and face adversity
11:58
in such a rivalry game.
11:59
It was it was definitely something on them. Price
12:03
good seeing you my man, thank you for being on the show and
12:05
good luck in the future. My man you deserve all
12:08
the praise that you've been getting but I'm sure you've heard
12:11
all of the folks talking about you no
12:13
one would sense questions your game. You're
12:16
a winner your champion has been choked
12:18
when we know what you bring to the table when
12:20
people look at you, however, they
12:22
say man he is small
12:25
we've seen in the NFL this year, you
12:27
know, you're to a tug of a lower also from Alabama
12:30
we've seen him get concussed not one not 2 but at
12:32
least 3
12:33
times a season people look at you
12:35
in the lone question, the biggest question
12:37
rather that they have about you is
12:39
your size and whether or not you're going to
12:41
be able to take the punishment
12:44
that inevitably comes with the quarterback position
12:47
on the National Football League era to
12:50
that in a national football league to
12:52
that you say what.
12:54
I think it's valid, you know, I
12:57
get it I think it was in the sense out to their opinion. But
12:59
for me I'm capable of you know,
13:02
I'm capable of won't give up I know I am
13:04
in you know, I've been playing with a lot
13:06
of people that have been bigger with me my my entire
13:08
life. You know, I've always been
13:10
the smaller on the field and you know, I know
13:13
that's not going to change the next level
13:15
and it's something I'm super used to. So
13:17
you know, I think especially you know
13:19
in this in the next level it's about how quickly
13:22
can process how how will you make the right decision
13:24
how how will you get the ball in your hands and
13:26
get to play make the same so that that's something
13:28
that I I myself and I'm ready for that challenge the next
13:30
level. You know, so that you know,
13:32
hopefully it's I'm not looking to
13:35
run a bunch of people over the next level or anything
13:37
like that. But be more be more efficient
13:40
with the ball and you know again, I'm
13:42
used to playing her on people that are much bigger. So
13:44
it's not going to be anything different.
13:46
3 quarterbacks right now Bryce as you know,
13:49
or any NFL and they start Jones there
13:51
you know well with New England to that Stevie
13:53
just mentioned and of course, let's not forget that hurts who
13:56
just got what 179 million dollars guaranteed
13:58
that it's not bad.
13:59
So I'm sure you've at least
14:02
reached out. I know the Alabama faithful with Saban
14:04
always get together. What are any
14:06
specific thought that any of the quarterbacks
14:09
gave you that you can take? Quit this of the league,
14:11
it's a long season. What did you take
14:13
out of those conversations you may have had with
14:16
any of the three of them?
14:17
Fill me in. Yeah, yeah, really the emphasis
14:19
on preparation and all the stuff that
14:22
happens leading up to Sunday. You know, obviously everyone
14:24
sees how well, like you mentioned that
14:26
they've all played on Sundays, but
14:29
from all of them, I've been able to hear just what goes
14:31
into the process of it. Hearing individually
14:33
kind of how they prepare and what goes into
14:35
it and how to handle business individually
14:38
and with the team throughout the week, the
14:41
importance of practice, of film
14:43
study, of doing all the little things so that you can
14:45
have success on Sunday. And
14:47
hearing that and seeing the success that they've had
14:49
and knowing that they echo that, that's something that means
14:52
a lot to me and something that I take pride
14:54
in. So it means a lot to
14:56
hear that from them as well.
14:57
Bryce, you've competed on the highest level
15:00
in college football. The elements that
15:02
you bring to the table, what do you think
15:04
differentiates you from the
15:07
other elite quarterbacks that are perceived
15:09
to be in this draft with you?
15:12
Yeah, you know, I'm honored to be
15:14
in the draft with the quarterbacks that I
15:16
am. I know most of them really well. You
15:19
know, I'm a big fan of everyone's game
15:21
too. But you know, for me, I definitely,
15:23
you know, pride myself in boys
15:26
and leadership, especially the boys that
15:28
it takes when, you know, when, you
15:30
know, you have those moments where of uncertainty,
15:33
you don't know what's gonna go on. You know, what's gonna happen,
15:36
you know, they're after like, you know, especially
15:38
at the next level, there's so many closed games. And,
15:40
you know, I think as an offense,
15:42
you know, being a leader and being someone
15:44
that you look towards, you know, those troubled times
15:46
to know you're gonna be okay. That's what I
15:48
pride myself in.
15:49
Something that I feel like I bring to the table. Appreciate
15:52
your humility. Appreciate your mindset. Bryce,
15:54
let's have a little fun now. So we did this yesterday
15:57
with your teammate. We're gonna do a little rapid
15:59
fire.
15:59
there. Well Anderson was here Stephen answer
16:02
the questions to so feel free to pop in again as
16:04
a if you want to all right we're going to start
16:06
with this favorite home cooked meal.
16:09
Oh favorite home
16:11
could meal. I go
16:13
with I go with which Sammy
16:16
my mom and my dad both
16:18
of the 2. Set
16:21
you said salmon. Yes, and
16:23
I see. They're raising
16:25
you to be a court. Oh my.
16:29
I'm rolling with lasagna what is not
16:31
turkey wings. Well,
16:33
I better say something nice my missus.
16:36
Yes, yes, your
16:39
favorite meals out to dinner with her. And
16:43
I love it got the healthy palate okay best
16:46
coach of all time Bryce.
16:47
Come on. Well easy. Don't
16:50
save it. Of course of course there's
16:52
nothing else to say it's the same way. Brian
16:55
there. God
16:58
bless. I
17:00
guarantee you Bryce you've heard of their Brian
17:03
have you not price.
17:04
Yeah, of course. Thank
17:08
you with these good days that about a bad. He
17:10
said Molly said he's 21 he's
17:12
not going to know. And
17:15
how about a more current reference. All right. One
17:17
word to describe Nick Saban one word.
17:20
Consisting he's himself
17:23
whether it's you know what you see on on
17:25
on tape and you know with that fire
17:27
that intensity. He holds himself
17:29
to that standard he was us this standard he was other
17:31
coaches. So you know this how consistent
17:34
he is in his message.
17:35
Now that's Graham trying to. That's
17:40
what it is that's the word see how simple that is
17:42
Bryce. I
17:44
like that like the answer. That's a very good answer
17:46
consistency who also has got a lot of NFL experience
17:49
and Belichick saving so he'll learn that so
17:51
we're
17:51
after all time Bryce. J.
17:55
Cole and Jake I can't choose one but it's it's nice
17:57
to take a call. I
18:00
like J. Cole, but I'm still go
18:02
with Jay Z. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Jay Z
18:04
too. Movie night or game night? Movie
18:07
night. Okay. Movie night, yes.
18:10
He's right. Movie night, air is good. Yeah.
18:12
Nice job on that. The best athletes
18:15
come from which state? California,
18:17
yes. I know it. Good point. California,
18:20
hey, wait a minute, Georgia or Texas? I don't know.
18:23
Georgia or Texas, I had to sell out to Will yesterday. Georgia,
18:25
Texas, he had a point there with Georgia now. Can't knock
18:28
that. Okay. Jordan
18:30
or LeBron? My
18:33
gosh, I don't have enough
18:35
time to go over this. All right. Short answer,
18:38
because I tell this to everyone. You do
18:40
have the time. Jordan, the greatest ever, had the
18:42
best career, most iconic, the best
18:44
pure basketball player, take all that away, is
18:47
LeBron.
18:49
So he played, Mr. A did
18:51
a good job. Listen, listen, that's very slick.
18:53
That's very slick. That's not bad. Listen,
18:55
listen, listen. He's ready to be an NFL quarterback. Listen,
18:58
Jordan, I'll simplify
19:00
for all of America out there.
19:03
Jordan is the greatest because
19:05
he was a greater winner. But
19:08
in terms of overall basketball
19:10
skills, the multitude of things that come with
19:12
it, people that say LeBron, I have no problem
19:14
with it. As long as you recognize the fact that LeBron was
19:17
not the winner,
19:19
that Jordan was. As long as you understand
19:21
that. Not the assassin either. That's
19:24
right. That's what I'm saying. What an assassin. And
19:26
Bryce, by the way, you're an assassin, my
19:28
brother.
19:29
He's a great player. That's right. That's
19:32
right. That's right. Thank you, Bryce. This was
19:34
a lot of fun. Best of luck. Thank
19:36
you. Thank you for having me on again. I really appreciate
19:38
it. Take care, man. Good luck.
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Doggy, which team has
20:15
the brighter future here in New York? Just to ball to you.
20:18
Just to ball to you. Don't tell me. The
20:20
Jets. You don't even know where their quarterback is. Yeah,
20:22
it's going to be Rodgers. We're assuming it's going to
20:24
be Rodgers. I think the Jets have a chance to really
20:27
be good. Now, to get out of the AFC is not going
20:29
to be easy because you've got my Holmes and Burrow and Allen and
20:31
everything else, but the Jets have a good defense.
20:34
They have Garrett Wilson. They bring
20:36
in a couple of people in from Indianapolis. Bryce
20:39
Hall is going to be 100%. Rodgers
20:41
is still great. Love the Jets. One thing about the
20:43
Giants' schedule next year. At San
20:45
Francisco, at Buffalo,
20:47
at Miami. Plus the Chargers
20:50
on the road. Not
20:51
that easy. Jets have a better future. Which
20:53
team has the coach of the year? Next year,
20:56
coach of the year. No, who has the coach of the year? The Giants
20:58
or the Jets? All these guys. The
21:00
Giants. The Giants. Yeah, yeah,
21:02
yeah. You struggled on that. You're asking me for the
21:04
first time. I'm going to go a little more smoothly. It's okay.
21:06
Tomorrow we're talking Chicago's Justin Fields'
21:09
prime to make a major jump this season.
21:11
Tune in tomorrow as our draft split series
21:13
rolls on. Back to the NBA.
21:16
The Warriors. Draymond Green was
21:18
suspended one game without pay for stomping
21:21
on the Kings' DeMontus of bonus. And
21:24
the NBA said the punishment for Green's game two
21:26
behavior was
21:26
based in part of Green's history of unsportsmanlike
21:30
acts. Green will serve the suspension for Thursday's
21:32
game three. The Kings said the bonus has
21:34
a sternum confusion. From the
21:36
incident is questionable for game three. The Warriors
21:38
will miss Draymond's presence on both sides of the ball,
21:40
especially offensively, where they're nine
21:43
points per game worse without it. All right,
21:45
whoa, tweeting this this morning. NBA
21:47
executive VP Joe Dumarz tells ESPN
21:49
on Draymond Green punishment, quote, here's what
21:51
it came down to. Excessive and over-the-top
21:54
actions, conduct, detrimental, and
21:56
a
21:56
repeat offender. That's
21:59
what separates this. where you end up with
22:01
a suspension. He continues in the next
22:03
week. DeMarce D. Espian on weighing
22:05
the circumstances of the Warriors down 2-0
22:07
to the Kings in the series. You know
22:09
what the situation is, but you have to set
22:11
that aside and look at the facts in
22:13
front of you. Repeat offender weighs
22:16
as heavy as anything. Okay.
22:19
I just
22:21
wanna point out before we get into this
22:23
subject, irony of it, I've
22:27
known Joe Dumas for days decades,
22:31
loved the man, very happy that he's in a position
22:33
that he's in.
22:35
Well, who was he a former member of? I was just
22:37
gonna say that. Wow. You
22:39
feel like it's hypocrisy? Wow. Pistons and Lane Beer.
22:42
Wow.
22:43
Amahorn. Right. Sally
22:46
Broadman. Isaiah wasn't an angel. Isaiah.
22:49
I mean, listen, I
22:51
think they don't get enough praise, what
22:53
they meant to the NBA, because everybody talks about,
22:56
you know, Boston and LA, and then
22:58
it's Michael Jordan. They're forgetting that the Pistons
23:01
interrupt everything. Obviously the Sixers in 83, but they're
23:03
forgetting that the Pistons disrupted everything. But
23:06
my goodness, it's just the irony of that
23:08
statement
23:09
coming from a bad boy piston. Wow.
23:12
Wow. I'll talk to Joe about that. JJ,
23:15
let me ask you this. What implications will
23:17
this suspension have on the Warriors? Well,
23:20
the implications in the short term is
23:22
that game three turns into a must win.
23:25
If they can win that game without Draymond,
23:27
I still believe they have a chance to win the series. If
23:29
they go down 3-0, the history tells us it's
23:31
over. Particularly because
23:33
Golden State is not a good road
23:37
team defensively.
23:39
Let's talk big picture though. And let's
23:41
just, I
23:44
don't want to do the hypothetical, but let's just say the
23:46
Warriors lose to the Kings.
23:49
I think the long-term implications of this is
23:51
that there's got to be
23:53
a different roster construction at
23:55
those positions, at the four and the five. When
23:58
the Warriors dynasty started in...
23:59
2015 there were still a lot of teams I know I was
24:02
on one of them that still played two bigs.
24:05
Two non shooting bigs and if you look around
24:07
the league right now how many good teams
24:09
play two non shooting bigs I can think of one and that's Cleveland
24:12
right Evan Mobley and Jared Allen they don't hit threes they
24:14
don't space the floor OK. But there's
24:16
two guys are so good defensively as our Draymond and Kavon
24:18
Looney I think the long term implication is
24:20
you can't go into next season.
24:23
With two non shooters in the starting lineup because
24:26
the rest of the league has caught up to you. And
24:29
I think about Mike Brown who spent years with
24:31
Steve Kerr
24:32
and has been in coaches meetings
24:35
in playoff series. And yeah you talk
24:37
about the other team you talk about strategy
24:39
and X's note. You also talk about your own players.
24:42
He's got a treasure trove of information
24:45
stored up
24:46
a scouting report that none of us
24:48
have on the Golden State
24:50
Warriors and he's taking advantage
24:53
of the fact that they start two non
24:55
shooters in the starting lineup. And we've seen that that
24:57
bear out. It's putting too
24:59
much pressure as good as Steph and Clay are. If you could
25:01
be physical like the Kings have been if you're going to allow that
25:03
it's putting too much pressure on them to
25:05
make tough shots when you have two non
25:07
shooters in the starting lineup. I
25:10
really believe that if they end up losing
25:12
this series there may be a change and I don't know I'm not saying
25:14
it's going to be Draymond. I
25:16
think Draymond Green is a Hall of Famer is one of the best defensive
25:18
players ever. I think he's the best
25:20
defensive player of our era. I
25:23
think they
25:23
should bring him back. Sign him to a long term
25:25
deal as long as Steph Curry's there. They've got a window
25:27
to continue this this run. But there's
25:30
got to be a change. They need
25:32
more shooting as crazy as that sounds as crazy as
25:34
that sounds. They
25:36
need more shooting. They need more spacing on the offensive
25:38
end. There's nothing to disagree
25:41
about what you said but you left a few
25:43
things out. Number one like
25:45
you said about Draymond.
25:48
He's going to look for a contract in
25:50
excess of one hundred million over the last two years.
25:53
One hundred million over four over the next four
25:55
years. Whatever. Personally speaking in today's
25:57
NBA market. I think he deserves that. Certainly
25:59
not too much.
25:59
But of course over $100 million in
26:02
the days NBA market with elite as
26:04
he is defensively even though he's not what he was
26:06
years ago He's still one of the better
26:08
ones today Definitely whether
26:11
or not they're gonna do that remains to be seen because they
26:13
paid wig as they paid pool the other
26:15
thing
26:16
Here's what I think he left out
26:19
Kefau loonie doesn't necessarily have to stop
26:21
over Steve kirsty per loves this man Love
26:25
love love him to death. No everyone him to go
26:27
I mean, he just loves him as a player loves him
26:29
as a person He says I mean, it's like a hero
26:32
to Steve Kerr for crying out last he could love this dude That's
26:35
a decision that they're gonna have to make and I don't he's the
26:37
kind of person He's such class personified He'll come off the
26:39
bench if you need him if you go out there and find that
26:41
that extra big that could do some things For you.
26:44
Okay, so I wanted to bring that up when
26:47
you look at
26:48
Gold State and
26:50
you're talking about those two bigs. That's
26:52
one point The other thing
26:55
is is that you left out the
26:57
part about this with Mike Brown You
27:00
said in the first part of the show JJ
27:02
Rettick That Dre
27:04
Mon has been baited. Mm-hmm. Who
27:07
came up with that stretch? That
27:09
would be Mike Brown, right? Find
27:12
the air Fox and come over that Malik
27:15
monk didn't come over that So
27:17
bonus with all the antics that he needs
27:19
knowing to pull off in Indiana and now Sacramento.
27:22
He didn't come over that That's
27:24
Mike Brown. See it left that out.
27:27
This man knows this team He
27:30
was an assistant coach for Steve Kerr. He knows
27:32
Dre Mon intimately He knows these
27:34
players if anybody can know
27:36
how to bait Dre Mon Green
27:39
who would know it better than Mike
27:41
Brown outside of the folks on the Warriors So
27:44
we have to understand that and we
27:47
also geek be clear It
27:49
ain't beyond them to bait clay a little bit too
27:52
because clay obviously one of the greatest
27:54
shooters we've ever seen Obviously
27:56
an individual that has walked around feeling underappreciated
27:59
for quite some
27:59
time and deservedly so because he is
28:02
underappreciated. That man is great. But
28:05
you can get Clay to a point, time
28:07
to time, not when it really matters, but time to
28:09
time, where you could egg
28:12
him on a little bit and get him to get
28:14
out of character and maybe four shots
28:17
that he normally would be a little bit more patient
28:19
about making that extra pass, getting it back, then shooting it
28:21
then as opposed to launching in somebody's face.
28:23
These are the kind of things that Mike Brown
28:25
are doing. And that's
28:27
what we need to pay attention to. He's tugging
28:30
on his strings a little bit
28:31
and he's doing a hell of a job clearly
28:34
because he's pulled it off thus far. Well,
28:36
let's do one thing on the series first. Sacramento,
28:39
they could have lost either one of these two games. I
28:41
mean, in the first game, Curry shot
28:43
three for 13 from three and had a wide
28:46
open three to tie the game and Wiggins had
28:48
a three to win the game with 10 seconds to
28:50
go. He had that wide open corner jumper. In
28:52
game two, even after
28:54
the, after
28:56
Draymond got thrown out of the game
28:58
and I don't even think he should have been, but after he did,
29:01
the game was tied twice and
29:03
after Thompson made a three, they were down by a point. So
29:05
it's not like Sacramento has won these games
29:08
like the Cavs have, like last night. These
29:10
games could have gone either way. So I
29:12
think the Warriors have a lot of life left
29:14
in them. I'm not sure if they're gonna win, but I'm
29:16
with JJ. I think they're gonna win them all night. They
29:18
got a cause now. This is a world championship
29:20
team in their home building against
29:23
a novice team on a road with a cause. That
29:25
is dangerous. Green comes back in game four,
29:27
it's all fired up. And hey, you know what? You
29:30
have my back, now I'm gonna have your back. And
29:32
Zabonis is not gonna get a call. They're gonna look
29:34
at Zabonis like you wouldn't believe. I think
29:36
this series is two-two. Now, as far as the whole
29:38
thing with bringing Green back, you know a lot more
29:40
about the psychology of what the team structurally
29:43
needs to do. I'm curious if
29:45
maybe the Warriors have just had
29:47
enough.
29:48
You know what? I know you said earlier
29:50
today that it's only been the one suspension of seven
29:53
years, but this is a suspension. He did
29:55
punch pool that we all saw
29:57
in training camp, and that was not just a tap
29:59
on a shot.
29:59
He punched him. That may have
30:02
caused a little divisiveness in
30:04
the locker room. So you can make the
30:06
argument to where you say, you know what? We won our four
30:08
championships. Could have been more if
30:10
he maybe didn't get out of that Cleveland series. But
30:13
he won our four championships. Maybe it's
30:15
time to just move on and
30:17
look at it a little differently. I wonder if Golden State's thinking about it
30:19
from that standpoint. I want to be clear. I'm
30:23
not counting the Warriors out. I know I said
30:25
they got to win. Like, I'm not counting them
30:26
out. I'm not counting Steph Curry out. I
30:29
want to be very clear on that. I
30:31
still think the Warriors can win this series. Your
30:34
question, have they had enough? The reality
30:37
with Draymond, and we discussed this last year, it was more contentious than we are
30:39
discussing this today. The reality is
30:41
with Draymond is that he has always
30:43
toed the line
30:45
between just aggressiveness,
30:48
over-the-top antics, and
30:51
competitiveness, and basketball play. Like, that's, he's
30:53
always toed that line. And
30:55
sometimes he steps over the line,
30:58
like he did Game 1 last
31:00
year against Memphis, like he did in 2016
31:03
with the kicks and the LeBron play. But
31:06
you can't argue with the result of
31:09
him living on the edge. You can't
31:11
argue with four championships. You
31:13
can't argue his value to this
31:16
dynasty.
31:17
And I believe this. If teams
31:19
want to operate in good faith, you have to reward
31:22
that.
31:23
You have to reward that. Now.
31:25
Hold on. Now.
31:28
When you were talking about roster construction, I think
31:31
one of the challenges,
31:32
if we are talking moving, because I love
31:34
Kavanh Looney too, I think he's extremely
31:37
underrated. One of the challenges going forward
31:39
with this new CBA is this new,
31:42
the luxury tax penalties, and basically
31:44
it's hard cap. You basically can go two years paying
31:47
the luxury tax, and then it's so egregious
31:49
that the tax that you can't move beyond that. I
31:52
think it obviously has shown that he will spend money,
31:55
but
31:56
I don't know that there's a Brook Lopez out there, like
31:58
when he signed in Milwaukee, coming off his Lakers year
32:01
for what it was at 3 million dollars like
32:03
that doesn't make that doesn't exist anymore. Right,
32:05
but he was the perfect fit for yahnes
32:07
right playing alongside yahnes is a 5 those
32:10
guys just don't exist those guys are going to get paid. So
32:12
really you have to look at trading a player I
32:14
think is is ultimately you know if
32:16
it ends up that where you've got to rebuild
32:19
the roster around stuff claim Draymond it
32:21
all to me is going to try to play only thing that
32:23
you said that I would challenge is that
32:25
you don't only in years you're too
32:27
smart not to know this JJ you
32:30
don't only get paid for what you've
32:32
done
32:33
you get paid because what this project
32:35
that you will do if
32:37
they're looking forward, you know he all
32:39
these years that Draymond has been playing and I support
32:42
him getting that contract essentially be very very
32:44
clear. I hope he gets it with go to state.
32:47
Understand.
32:50
You didn't play for free all of those years
32:52
you were winning. You got paid
32:55
then you got contract said that now they
32:57
got to project what you're going to do 3, 4, 5 years
32:59
down the road of that's what you saw that we're all challenge
33:01
on something you said earlier which is that Draymond is
33:03
not as good defense of you as he once was but
33:05
he's going to agree that in the most. Draymond
33:07
Green will make all NBA defense this year, he's
33:10
still going to have the way and had the anybody else in
33:12
the warriors had a defensive year. I'm only saying
33:14
when you pay him if you signed
33:17
in for 4 years if you go to state you looking at
33:19
what he's going to do for you for the next 3 to 4 years, it
33:22
just about what you did that's the only point that
33:24
I think you know that as far as the suspension
33:26
Joe do Mars is going to join Malika and the crew
33:29
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Where
34:59
are you today? The Eagles
35:02
just gave her a $179
35:03
million guaranteed. And
35:06
of course the Ravens, according to the
35:09
Shepherd, on the show told Stevie
35:11
and I that the Ravens owe $175 million. The Shepherd
35:13
is the whole thing. I believe him. $175 million
35:15
for Lamar. And what is this he's spent? I'll
35:18
see you down the road. What? So
35:22
I want to hear another word about
35:24
how the
35:47
government is doing. You're not going to search. They
35:49
gave a 179. Take the 175 and be happy. Point number one.
36:00
Let me tell you something right now. I'm not saying
36:02
he deserves the Sean Watson money because that's
36:04
not lying. I meant how to set up. But what I'm saying
36:06
to you is Hertz at 175. I would
36:08
remind you that Kyle Murray's getting 189. If
36:11
you are Lamar Jackson, well,
36:13
you could make the argument, why should I get paid less
36:15
than Kyle Murray? Now,
36:18
just because Hertz took 175 doesn't
36:20
mean he should have to. You shouldn't be spending other
36:22
people's money and telling them what they're saying. Oh,
36:24
you're not sending out 179. You're
36:26
crazy. I'm just saying. Sign the contract. Sign
36:28
the contract.
36:29
Jay Watson got 255 million.
36:33
Well, that's Jimmy Haslam. I'm just
36:35
telling you. He's not
36:40
showing
36:55
the big corporate of that was. Patrick
36:58
can't play that's
36:59
who it was. And did you see can't
37:01
leave whatever his name is can't leave at
37:04
the RBC down in Hilton Head? I know
37:06
he watched it play just like
37:08
that. Do you know that on the back nine
37:10
on Sunday, he was behind a tree
37:13
in the straw? Do you know they had a timer?
37:15
We can't show it to you, but I had a timer
37:18
on it with a little two
37:20
minutes and 50
37:23
seconds to take a little fire. And
37:27
hit it to the left of the tree on the
37:29
green.
37:29
Plus it took him a minute to
37:31
make a four foot. He made
37:33
it. But at 60
37:36
seconds, listen, they got a fun
37:38
don't get a five and a half hours
37:41
on a Sunday afternoon over a cocktail.
37:43
That is
37:43
a joke. Can't speed
37:46
it up for hours and get the
37:48
head off the golf course. But to what
37:50
I want JJ to react to that. He's the golfer. I'm
37:53
with you on this. There's
37:55
not golf. There's
37:58
nothing worse on a slow golf.
37:59
over. Shot work X amount of dollars. Did you see
38:02
my white
38:06
to the body out
38:07
on a lot behind the tree. Oh my
38:09
God. Can I ask you one question.
38:11
We see that golf. I get the
38:14
boy.
38:18
You counted how
38:20
many times. Yeah. Yeah, they talk about John.
38:26
Seven times. Seven times. Seven times.
38:28
And they still
38:29
wait. I was in front of him. That's two. Hey,
38:32
hey, hey, boys
38:35
got to do something. This
38:37
is a disgrace. This open age. Last
38:40
year was a two years ago.
38:41
The bathroom's over flooding.
38:44
There was sewer on the
38:47
field. And did you see what happened
38:49
this week? They were in a mess. The A's out in Oakland.
38:52
The SNY
38:53
broadcast booth. They could not broadcast
38:56
from their booth in a mess. A series.
38:59
Why? Because there was a pot.
39:01
Oh, it's living in the wall.
39:03
Oh, that is disgusting. Look at that.
39:09
That is a major like baseball
39:11
facility. That team
39:13
plays here. The open age that
39:15
one five fourth champion. Justin
39:18
and I got animals in the wall. When
39:20
he's got squirrels in his room, he hired
39:23
somebody. He knocks the squirrels
39:25
out. When I had bats up there in Connecticut
39:28
one year, I hired somebody and
39:30
I got the bats to help me out. How
39:32
a possum sitting, ask me,
39:35
and animals in the Alameda,
39:37
Conesthemum baseball allows this to happen.
39:39
Hey, I love Stanford. But Rob,
39:41
get open, let him open. Hold
39:44
him anywhere. Hold him here. Hold him
39:46
in the New York City subway system. There's less
39:48
bats. But this is they
39:51
cannot
39:51
play any more
39:53
baseball in that facility.
39:55
Now it is
39:57
a thing. I completely agree
39:59
with you. The fact of the matter is, you
40:01
know what? The Raiders
40:04
are gone. The Warriors
40:06
are gone. It's not an accident.
40:09
We have to look at the local government
40:12
in the city of Oakland, what they're
40:14
doing and why owners are looking to
40:16
run for cover and the A's ain't
40:18
far behind. That is an atrocity and a
40:20
mistake. I don't even think the players should show
40:22
up to play under conditions
40:24
like that. That's awesome. It's going to haunt
40:26
me in my nightmares tonight. I have a real
40:28
issue with rodents. Bugs, I'm fine,
40:30
but rodents, like I cannot handle it.
40:33
Something is crawling on my back right now, just looking
40:35
at that little. I guess the possums
40:36
are good for the environment. That's
40:39
what I've been hearing. Okay, that's great. Outside.
40:42
Outside. Not in the walls. You're great.
40:45
I agree. I also think it's unfair to the Oakland
40:47
A's players. Yeah. That's it?
40:50
The fact that they have such a different
40:52
experience than most
40:55
major league baseball players. That's all of
40:57
them. Literally,
41:00
if you're Rob Manfred, you should
41:02
be making arrangements for
41:05
the team to play elsewhere until they
41:07
upgrade facilities. No
41:10
players should be subjected to that.
41:12
Exactly. And not bad. That's
41:14
right. Stephen A, the inside NBA crew had
41:17
somebody say about you last night. Let's take a listen. Yes,
41:20
sir. Captain A. That's
41:23
Derek Watt of Stephen A. Damn,
41:26
Derek. I join you in the head
41:28
shape. Damn, Stephen
41:30
A. Stephen
41:33
A played for the Celtics. You
41:39
do first take in the morning. I play for
41:41
the Celtics. You'll never find,
41:44
boom, boom, boom, boom, like an airline like
41:46
mine.
41:50
I'm going to get them. You do first take in the morning. I'm going
41:53
to get them. I'm going to get them. They both take
41:55
me last night. I'm going to get them good. They got me. They
41:58
got me. I'm not that damn good.
41:59
that I'm not that you have
42:02
to work with that and on like they're quite you know.
42:05
It's a way to go because his hair so
42:07
long. It's
42:10
a little different this a little bit is
42:12
a right here to think you're 30's and it's 20. I'm a
42:14
month. And
42:17
I still like that but that's okay, I'm going
42:19
to get told by the fact that I
42:21
don't know what I'm going to get but I'm a come up with
42:25
that is that a threat or a problem. But
42:29
the Clippers in the playing games this
42:32
week was still the real deal,
42:34
which
42:34
is one of the great was not a man. I
42:37
was a good job. I
42:40
mean gross Molly out with that last yeah, no
42:43
road. Yeah, we didn't know you call you have
42:45
to pick. We found we have and
42:47
the can't be I'm glad Jay saw that
42:49
yeah, I mean you had to see it this week 2 minutes
42:52
and 50 seconds they had a little finer I mean you
42:54
got to get that. It's a big
42:56
goal for you any good though. Well, it's like I'm
42:58
a 10 handicap what about you 50, I don't play
43:00
yet.
43:25
That's because it's your Rangers who made a statement
43:27
beating the Devils 5 one in their first
43:29
game of their series New York stand up
43:32
right.
43:32
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we will go with that you
43:34
go with that was doing a high. Everybody thought that experience
43:37
and the goalie would be a big factor the Rangers
43:39
killed 2 penalties in the first 6 minutes of the
43:41
game scored first only played well 5
43:44
to 1 win Devils a young team. Rangers
43:46
should be in good shape in the series, you know, a
43:49
lot of that much hockey, but I watch it a lot
43:51
of this game here at with
43:52
the next. It's just a compliment the
43:54
stand. Continue tonight,
43:56
the islanders take on the hurricane
43:59
the 7
43:59
Eastern. by the wild and stars
44:01
on ESPN2 and on ESPN the Bruins host Panther 730
44:03
Eastern. Then it's the
44:05
Kings and Oilers the road to the cup
44:08
it's on Fox.
44:09
Sacramento
44:11
Kings Darren Fox was the runaway
44:13
winner of the NBA's first ever clutch player of the
44:15
year award not only did Fox lead the Kings to their
44:17
first play of birth in 17 years he averaged
44:20
a career high with 25 points per game. Fox also
44:22
led the NBA clutch scoring with 194 total
44:25
points. Alright this is gonna be fun. This
44:28
is Christopher Madrog Russo who's
44:30
the most clutch player in
44:33
NBA get ready for history.
44:35
I'm not gonna give you George Mike.
44:38
I'm not gonna give you that. Bob Pettit I'll lay
44:40
off on Bob Pettit. No Elgin
44:43
Baylor no Russell didn't score that much. I
44:46
am and you would think I take bird and I love
44:48
him and I probably should have taken him. I'm gonna
44:50
take Kareem only because
44:53
when you think about it for him for a second since
44:55
he was basically in eighth grade he
44:58
was the feature of every game he
45:00
ever played. He was the guy
45:02
that the other team had to stop every time that
45:05
the ball was thrown up in the air. He was the best
45:07
college basketball of all time. He won three NCAA
45:10
championships MVP at three NCAA
45:12
finals and obviously he lost two games
45:15
in college. He goes to the NBA he goes to
45:17
Milwaukee. They were terrible
45:19
they bring Oscar and they won a championship
45:21
and name me a game that
45:23
you can ever recall with Kareem where
45:25
he missed a sky hook at the end. He
45:27
never made that sky hook was an unblockable
45:30
shot and also he's a great free throw shooter.
45:33
I never made two free throws to beat the Pistons
45:35
to win a championship. So and
45:37
the shot that he made
45:39
against Hank Finkel in
45:41
game six of the 74 final. Oh
45:46
my lord. I told him to get the video
45:48
so we can learn. No no no we don't want to do black
45:50
and white in his day and day. We don't want
45:52
to do black and white in his day. That's something great.
45:55
Nothing doing. A great play
45:57
by play. But I'll take Kareem. I'll
45:59
take Kareem.
45:59
But that's the case. Why did you stop there? Why don't you just go
46:02
Bill Russell? I mean he did play in 11 get series
46:04
deciding games 10 game sevens and one
46:06
game five. You know what his record was 11 no,
46:11
it is not my answer, but I'm saying since he went Kareemah
46:13
do you bought why not go Bill Russell? That's what I was
46:15
saying. Bye. By the way, you had a buzz because I was looking
46:17
at my statue at a buzzer beat in 2016 the
46:20
sister of a Chris Paul your lone buzzer beat of
46:22
your career. Just want to throw that out there. Congratulations
46:24
on that Here's the deal
46:26
Thought about this long and hard
46:28
now obviously for me is MJ Nine
46:32
buzzer beating game when I mean that is MJ
46:34
for me It's MJ but when we
46:37
talked about it and they said
46:39
to us they said the question they said have your top three
46:42
1-1 So for me,
46:44
here's where the struggle was MJ was a
46:46
given And I was thinking
46:48
about
46:48
LeBron and Kobe and
46:51
I'm like, how the hell
46:52
do we leave out Larry Bird? I I
46:56
just can't leave out Larry Bird. I just
46:58
can't do it. Okay, I watch this.
47:00
I watch this brother I mean the the the
47:02
certain stuff but I gotta go with Larry
47:04
Bird then it comes down to Kobe
47:09
Full of wrong
47:10
now LeBron has had was it
47:12
like 21 game-winning
47:14
shots in his career? Kobe's
47:18
got eight buzzer be the second only to Michael Jordan
47:22
Regular season postseason combined Kobe's
47:26
percentages are better I've
47:28
got to go with Kobe Bryant LeBron
47:30
on the outside three looking in Bryant
47:32
MJ Kobe and bird
47:35
I actually can't recall Kareemah Bulgevar
47:38
ever missing a skyhook is the end of a game
47:40
because I can't recall a single Kareemah Bulgevar
47:42
game because unfortunately Yeah, I
47:44
was five when he returned. Oh, Lord.
47:46
I was five. Here's what I know.
47:49
Okay, here's what I know We've got
47:52
tracking data going back to 1996 1997 in
47:55
that period of time LeBron James has the most
47:58
clutch time points He's got over 26
47:59
six hundred only Kobe has more than 2000
48:02
in that time span. Kobe
48:05
and LeBron are the only 2 players with more than 80
48:07
game tying or game winning
48:09
field goals in the last minute of fourth quarter overtime
48:12
Kobe has 89 LeBron is 81. The
48:14
bra has the most buzzer beating game
48:16
winners
48:17
in the playoffs
48:18
got 5 of those is very clear
48:22
that it's LeBron Kobe and Jack Wright
48:24
in no particular there's the top
48:26
the top 3. You know, I can't it is a good
48:28
point. It's just hard to leave our lives. And
48:31
even I like that we need we need something.
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