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Hour 2 : King of Clutch

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Wednesday, 19th April 2023
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0:00

Are the Suns leaning on their starting unit. Is

0:02

that a bit of a concern for It is a bit of

0:04

concern for me but I want to harken back

0:06

to what I said at the beginning of That

0:09

was a dumb question. And

0:11

the other point that I wanted to make is that these

0:14

are the things that justifiably

0:16

irritate

0:17

a Kevin Durant. You're

0:20

a two time champion a two time NBA finals MVP

0:23

a career twenty seven point per game You

0:26

know what you've been to You went to a finals

0:28

against the Jamie Heat in 2012

0:31

for crying You've been to conference

0:33

finals and somebody is asking a question

0:36

about you winning a playoff

0:38

game. That's insulting. I

0:41

also actually think it's insulting to Devin Booker

0:44

and OK these guys were in the finals

0:46

two years ago without So

0:48

I don't I don't understand

0:49

I

0:52

just looked at his numbers You realize

0:55

over the last five years ladies and gentlemen Devin

0:57

Booker has averaged a minimum of twenty five point This

1:00

brother is something special. OK. Having

1:03

said all of that I need to

1:05

see Monty Williams use his bench a bit

1:07

more because that's the

1:10

impression that you gave when you first acquired

1:12

Katie that we had some dudes

1:15

with Craig Koji and others that we

1:17

could bring off the bench that could do some things for us.

1:19

It ain't just about the big four with

1:21

CP three Booker Katie and

1:24

DeAndre. And you gave that impression

1:26

and you taught you gave the to

1:28

trust come postseason time. Now I know that

1:30

coaches religiously

1:33

almost they shorten We

1:36

get all of that or short We get all

1:38

of that. But Phoenix is one of those rare teams

1:40

that can't afford to do You have

1:42

no chance of winning it all

1:45

if you're going to rely on six guys

1:48

that much throughout the course

1:50

of these playoffs. That's

1:53

my concern. I'm not concerned

1:55

specifically about this series because I do think

1:58

the matchup and I do think the game. dictates

2:01

the rotation okay and if you look at the

2:03

end of that first half last night. Phoenix

2:05

was in trouble. They go

2:07

on the 11 to run. Let's

2:10

acknowledge Tory Craig as we had questions about

2:12

the 5th guy right we've talked about this for the last 2

2:15

months the 5th guy who's the 5th guy who they're great story

2:17

Craig.

2:18

It's my half a game over 2 games, 71%

2:21

from the field. He's

2:23

he's ball.

2:25

I think in this matchup it is

2:28

important. To play

2:30

your starters and I'm not saying it's got to be 44 and 42

2:33

minutes like it was last night for the next 5, you know 4, 5, 6 games,

2:36

whatever you are for 5 games, whatever it is.

2:40

If they get past this team. They're

2:42

not going to need to play their starters 45 minutes a

2:44

night against the Denver Nuggets. Because

2:47

I think the Denver Nuggets are to beat Minnesota Denver

2:49

doesn't have as good of a bench as the Clippers when

2:51

you're bringing off guys like Terrence Mann Norman

2:53

pal that they supply me these are guys that could

2:56

start on a lot of teams.

2:57

Mason Plummy has been a starter. You

3:00

know, Norman pal has been a starter at times. So

3:03

that's why it's not my concern my concern is

3:05

not you know the toll

3:08

of this series and play even intense basketball

3:10

games. I think the starters are needed in

3:12

this series to play 37 to 42 minutes again. Listen,

3:16

I think that the issue for the Suns

3:18

will be late in the series 4th

3:21

quarter. One of those 3 guys is

3:23

off especially Paul, you know 18 years

3:26

in the league a little older didn't play great

3:28

if didn't score a lot of first game where are

3:30

they going to get a little help from who's going to

3:32

get them a basket

3:33

in the last 6 7 minutes of a tight game. You

3:35

hit it right in the head Westbrook Gordon

3:38

is a he's got thoughts. He's

3:40

got tremendous range and he's been in big games before

3:42

piles of pain in the neck man's good.

3:45

I got the two centers Kawhi's a

3:47

staple. I think this bench

3:49

will be a big factor and it doesn't have to be

3:52

a factor for very long. This series is going

3:54

to come right down to the basket

3:56

or two at the end of game seven. These are two

3:58

evenly matched teams. I'd

4:00

be shocked if it isn't. And when you go to a game

4:02

seven, it's a little thing that can tilt it. And

4:05

I think those guys that Clippers can bring

4:07

off the bench and find enough offense out

4:10

of Gordon, Westbrook, Powell. That's

4:13

funny. The game they win, Westbrook doesn't score. The game they lose,

4:15

he has a great offensive game. It's

4:18

weird, but Gordon, Westbrook, Powell,

4:20

man, they get two of those guys hoping

4:22

Leonard, they got a hell of a chance to win. I think the Clippers are

4:24

gonna beat him, and the bench is gonna be one of the reasons why. One

4:27

thing we should note, campaign has been out the first

4:29

two games, nursing

4:31

a sore back. Coming back. And

4:33

there's no update on him right now, but

4:35

at some point I hope he's back this series.

4:38

And he does provide a little bit of lift, and Monty Williams trusts him. He

4:40

played well as a starter when Chris Paul was hurt this year. One

4:43

quick point.

4:45

The Phoenix Suns with 21

4:47

of 29 on mid-range and

4:50

then mid-range jumpers. Both

4:52

CP3 and Kevin

4:54

Durant hit seven to ten of their

4:56

mid-range jumpers. You can't

4:59

have CP3 getting in the paint

5:01

that religiously and being that efficient, and you're going

5:03

to win this series. If you are the Los Angeles Clippers,

5:06

you cannot afford to let that happen. That's why I

5:08

brought up the Zubach thing and dropped coverage, Stephen.

5:11

I'm glad you agree with me, Al. Yes, I did. I did agree

5:13

with you. I said it really sounds awesome. This

5:15

is really you, all of us. Who would you rather have

5:17

moving forward, Katie or Kawhi? Believe

5:19

it or not, it's Kawhi for this series.

5:22

You? Mr. Kevin Durant, president

5:24

of the Kevin Durant Fan Club, wants Kawhi. Listen,

5:26

listen. When did that change? Because

5:29

I'm not just looking at numbers. Both of them

5:31

have at least 25, 5, and 5 in the first two games of the series. We

5:34

get all of that. Kawhi had 38 and 31 last night.

5:37

Here's my issue.

5:38

The aggressiveness of Kawhi

5:40

Leonard is what I'm leaning on. Kawhi

5:43

Leonard, like you said, they blessed him. He went

5:45

after him. He had to give up the ball a little bit more than he had to

5:47

do in game one. He went doubling him. He went going after him in

5:49

game one. The way they did it in game two, we

5:51

get that. But he's looking for his

5:53

shot. He's looking to be aggressive. Kevin

5:57

Durant is looking to make the right play. He's looking

5:59

to make the right play.

5:59

fit in at any moment that

6:02

you give Kawhi Leonard a slither. He

6:04

wants to take over, give him the damn ball. He

6:06

wants to do it. That's the impression that I get when I'm

6:08

watching him. And that's

6:11

what I want from my superstar in

6:13

a series like this. That's why I would say Kawhi. Ball's

6:15

in his hands more.

6:17

He can facilitate a little more. He has to ball

6:19

a lot at the top of the key. He brings the ball to court. He

6:22

can close the game a little

6:24

more. Durant needs Paul, give him the ball,

6:26

certain spots. It's split in hairs. And

6:29

with him on Durant, I love him. But

6:31

for this particular scenario, what I've seen in

6:33

these two games, I want Kawhi. I'd

6:35

pick Kawhi. If I was going to pick

6:38

up, I got to win some games. I'll pick Kawhi

6:40

over Durant. That's a tough ball. By necessity,

6:43

by necessity, my dog, that Kawhi

6:45

has to have the ball. He doesn't have Devin Booker

6:47

on his team. But I like that. But I like that.

6:50

It's true. Fair. I'm not splitting

6:52

hairs here because I learned my lesson last year. And

6:54

you guys asked me a question. Who would you

6:56

rather have in the clutch? Luka or Steph.

6:59

I'm not dealing with people's fans. I really am

7:01

not because they're both fantastic players.

7:03

I'm good with either one. I'm good with either

7:05

one.

7:06

I just so enjoy watching

7:09

Kawhi in the playoffs. Well, truthfully,

7:12

I've gone against him. And I didn't enjoy it. But

7:14

now as a fan, he's special

7:17

in the playoffs. So let me ask you a question.

7:20

How about this? There's never been

7:22

any time when you've watched Kevin Durant and

7:25

you said you're so great. Damn

7:27

it, take the game over.

7:28

We know you can. Just take it over. You've

7:31

never done that ever watching Kevin Durant or

7:33

any star in the league. The most confusing

7:36

time I've ever watched Kevin Durant was

7:39

in the Brooklyn series last year, or I mean the Boston

7:41

series last year in the first round. That was

7:43

confusing. That was a performance I've never seen before.

7:45

You're

7:45

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7:47

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7:50

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Great to be joined by the man himself.

10:17

He has been winning Alabama quarterback Bryce

10:20

Young. Bryce, thank you so much for being with us.

10:22

Of course. Thank you so much for having me on. Bryce,

10:26

tell me this. I just mentioned it. Why did you decide

10:28

to cancel your remaining pre-draft visits?

10:31

Yeah, for me it was just a decision

10:34

that I made with my team. It was kind of

10:36

more logistics than anything. And I

10:39

wanted to do everything I can to focus

10:41

on getting ready for the draft

10:43

and getting ready for whenever my name is

10:46

called,

10:47

making sure I'm working out in training so that I can

10:49

get my own or whatever franchise it is. Bryce,

10:51

I hope whoever picture goes back and looks at

10:54

the Auburn game from a couple years ago on

10:56

the road down 10-3 in Alabama struggles

10:59

in Auburn down

11:01

10-3

11:02

and you brought that team down the field

11:05

on 97 yards. Here's

11:07

a huge play right now for a completion. You

11:09

had a fourth and seven on that drive that

11:11

you completed. Look at Bryce moving

11:14

around making all these plays. They won in four overtimes.

11:16

That is the drive in a lot of ways that I think

11:19

about when I think about you only because

11:21

you only scored three points. And this is

11:23

deep in the fourth quarter and you had to wear

11:25

a thought to bring your team back. Give me some thoughts on

11:27

that. Go ahead. Yeah, I

11:29

mean this was a super straight moment

11:32

for us as a team. You know,

11:34

everything we do,

11:35

you know, it wasn't the prettiest game offensively.

11:38

Our defense did a great job in that game carrying us. But

11:40

you know, for me and us as a team, you know, I pride myself

11:42

and you know in those moments, you know, being someone

11:45

that as a team that they can look towards and

11:47

you know, know that regardless of what's going on, what happened

11:49

to the rest of the game, that we're good and you know, we're

11:51

always in it. So, you know, this is huge for me and

11:54

for the team just, you know, in a rough game to

11:56

be able to come back and face adversity

11:58

in such a rivalry game.

11:59

It was it was definitely something on them. Price

12:03

good seeing you my man, thank you for being on the show and

12:05

good luck in the future. My man you deserve all

12:08

the praise that you've been getting but I'm sure you've heard

12:11

all of the folks talking about you no

12:13

one would sense questions your game. You're

12:16

a winner your champion has been choked

12:18

when we know what you bring to the table when

12:20

people look at you, however, they

12:22

say man he is small

12:25

we've seen in the NFL this year, you

12:27

know, you're to a tug of a lower also from Alabama

12:30

we've seen him get concussed not one not 2 but at

12:32

least 3

12:33

times a season people look at you

12:35

in the lone question, the biggest question

12:37

rather that they have about you is

12:39

your size and whether or not you're going to

12:41

be able to take the punishment

12:44

that inevitably comes with the quarterback position

12:47

on the National Football League era to

12:50

that in a national football league to

12:52

that you say what.

12:54

I think it's valid, you know, I

12:57

get it I think it was in the sense out to their opinion. But

12:59

for me I'm capable of you know,

13:02

I'm capable of won't give up I know I am

13:04

in you know, I've been playing with a lot

13:06

of people that have been bigger with me my my entire

13:08

life. You know, I've always been

13:10

the smaller on the field and you know, I know

13:13

that's not going to change the next level

13:15

and it's something I'm super used to. So

13:17

you know, I think especially you know

13:19

in this in the next level it's about how quickly

13:22

can process how how will you make the right decision

13:24

how how will you get the ball in your hands and

13:26

get to play make the same so that that's something

13:28

that I I myself and I'm ready for that challenge the next

13:30

level. You know, so that you know,

13:32

hopefully it's I'm not looking to

13:35

run a bunch of people over the next level or anything

13:37

like that. But be more be more efficient

13:40

with the ball and you know again, I'm

13:42

used to playing her on people that are much bigger. So

13:44

it's not going to be anything different.

13:46

3 quarterbacks right now Bryce as you know,

13:49

or any NFL and they start Jones there

13:51

you know well with New England to that Stevie

13:53

just mentioned and of course, let's not forget that hurts who

13:56

just got what 179 million dollars guaranteed

13:58

that it's not bad.

13:59

So I'm sure you've at least

14:02

reached out. I know the Alabama faithful with Saban

14:04

always get together. What are any

14:06

specific thought that any of the quarterbacks

14:09

gave you that you can take? Quit this of the league,

14:11

it's a long season. What did you take

14:13

out of those conversations you may have had with

14:16

any of the three of them?

14:17

Fill me in. Yeah, yeah, really the emphasis

14:19

on preparation and all the stuff that

14:22

happens leading up to Sunday. You know, obviously everyone

14:24

sees how well, like you mentioned that

14:26

they've all played on Sundays, but

14:29

from all of them, I've been able to hear just what goes

14:31

into the process of it. Hearing individually

14:33

kind of how they prepare and what goes into

14:35

it and how to handle business individually

14:38

and with the team throughout the week, the

14:41

importance of practice, of film

14:43

study, of doing all the little things so that you can

14:45

have success on Sunday. And

14:47

hearing that and seeing the success that they've had

14:49

and knowing that they echo that, that's something that means

14:52

a lot to me and something that I take pride

14:54

in. So it means a lot to

14:56

hear that from them as well.

14:57

Bryce, you've competed on the highest level

15:00

in college football. The elements that

15:02

you bring to the table, what do you think

15:04

differentiates you from the

15:07

other elite quarterbacks that are perceived

15:09

to be in this draft with you?

15:12

Yeah, you know, I'm honored to be

15:14

in the draft with the quarterbacks that I

15:16

am. I know most of them really well. You

15:19

know, I'm a big fan of everyone's game

15:21

too. But you know, for me, I definitely,

15:23

you know, pride myself in boys

15:26

and leadership, especially the boys that

15:28

it takes when, you know, when, you

15:30

know, you have those moments where of uncertainty,

15:33

you don't know what's gonna go on. You know, what's gonna happen,

15:36

you know, they're after like, you know, especially

15:38

at the next level, there's so many closed games. And,

15:40

you know, I think as an offense,

15:42

you know, being a leader and being someone

15:44

that you look towards, you know, those troubled times

15:46

to know you're gonna be okay. That's what I

15:48

pride myself in.

15:49

Something that I feel like I bring to the table. Appreciate

15:52

your humility. Appreciate your mindset. Bryce,

15:54

let's have a little fun now. So we did this yesterday

15:57

with your teammate. We're gonna do a little rapid

15:59

fire.

15:59

there. Well Anderson was here Stephen answer

16:02

the questions to so feel free to pop in again as

16:04

a if you want to all right we're going to start

16:06

with this favorite home cooked meal.

16:09

Oh favorite home

16:11

could meal. I go

16:13

with I go with which Sammy

16:16

my mom and my dad both

16:18

of the 2. Set

16:21

you said salmon. Yes, and

16:23

I see. They're raising

16:25

you to be a court. Oh my.

16:29

I'm rolling with lasagna what is not

16:31

turkey wings. Well,

16:33

I better say something nice my missus.

16:36

Yes, yes, your

16:39

favorite meals out to dinner with her. And

16:43

I love it got the healthy palate okay best

16:46

coach of all time Bryce.

16:47

Come on. Well easy. Don't

16:50

save it. Of course of course there's

16:52

nothing else to say it's the same way. Brian

16:55

there. God

16:58

bless. I

17:00

guarantee you Bryce you've heard of their Brian

17:03

have you not price.

17:04

Yeah, of course. Thank

17:08

you with these good days that about a bad. He

17:10

said Molly said he's 21 he's

17:12

not going to know. And

17:15

how about a more current reference. All right. One

17:17

word to describe Nick Saban one word.

17:20

Consisting he's himself

17:23

whether it's you know what you see on on

17:25

on tape and you know with that fire

17:27

that intensity. He holds himself

17:29

to that standard he was us this standard he was other

17:31

coaches. So you know this how consistent

17:34

he is in his message.

17:35

Now that's Graham trying to. That's

17:40

what it is that's the word see how simple that is

17:42

Bryce. I

17:44

like that like the answer. That's a very good answer

17:46

consistency who also has got a lot of NFL experience

17:49

and Belichick saving so he'll learn that so

17:51

we're

17:51

after all time Bryce. J.

17:55

Cole and Jake I can't choose one but it's it's nice

17:57

to take a call. I

18:00

like J. Cole, but I'm still go

18:02

with Jay Z. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Jay Z

18:04

too. Movie night or game night? Movie

18:07

night. Okay. Movie night, yes.

18:10

He's right. Movie night, air is good. Yeah.

18:12

Nice job on that. The best athletes

18:15

come from which state? California,

18:17

yes. I know it. Good point. California,

18:20

hey, wait a minute, Georgia or Texas? I don't know.

18:23

Georgia or Texas, I had to sell out to Will yesterday. Georgia,

18:25

Texas, he had a point there with Georgia now. Can't knock

18:28

that. Okay. Jordan

18:30

or LeBron? My

18:33

gosh, I don't have enough

18:35

time to go over this. All right. Short answer,

18:38

because I tell this to everyone. You do

18:40

have the time. Jordan, the greatest ever, had the

18:42

best career, most iconic, the best

18:44

pure basketball player, take all that away, is

18:47

LeBron.

18:49

So he played, Mr. A did

18:51

a good job. Listen, listen, that's very slick.

18:53

That's very slick. That's not bad. Listen,

18:55

listen, listen. He's ready to be an NFL quarterback. Listen,

18:58

Jordan, I'll simplify

19:00

for all of America out there.

19:03

Jordan is the greatest because

19:05

he was a greater winner. But

19:08

in terms of overall basketball

19:10

skills, the multitude of things that come with

19:12

it, people that say LeBron, I have no problem

19:14

with it. As long as you recognize the fact that LeBron was

19:17

not the winner,

19:19

that Jordan was. As long as you understand

19:21

that. Not the assassin either. That's

19:24

right. That's what I'm saying. What an assassin. And

19:26

Bryce, by the way, you're an assassin, my

19:28

brother.

19:29

He's a great player. That's right. That's

19:32

right. That's right. Thank you, Bryce. This was

19:34

a lot of fun. Best of luck. Thank

19:36

you. Thank you for having me on again. I really appreciate

19:38

it. Take care, man. Good luck.

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20:13

Doggy, which team has

20:15

the brighter future here in New York? Just to ball to you.

20:18

Just to ball to you. Don't tell me. The

20:20

Jets. You don't even know where their quarterback is. Yeah,

20:22

it's going to be Rodgers. We're assuming it's going to

20:24

be Rodgers. I think the Jets have a chance to really

20:27

be good. Now, to get out of the AFC is not going

20:29

to be easy because you've got my Holmes and Burrow and Allen and

20:31

everything else, but the Jets have a good defense.

20:34

They have Garrett Wilson. They bring

20:36

in a couple of people in from Indianapolis. Bryce

20:39

Hall is going to be 100%. Rodgers

20:41

is still great. Love the Jets. One thing about the

20:43

Giants' schedule next year. At San

20:45

Francisco, at Buffalo,

20:47

at Miami. Plus the Chargers

20:50

on the road. Not

20:51

that easy. Jets have a better future. Which

20:53

team has the coach of the year? Next year,

20:56

coach of the year. No, who has the coach of the year? The Giants

20:58

or the Jets? All these guys. The

21:00

Giants. The Giants. Yeah, yeah,

21:02

yeah. You struggled on that. You're asking me for the

21:04

first time. I'm going to go a little more smoothly. It's okay.

21:06

Tomorrow we're talking Chicago's Justin Fields'

21:09

prime to make a major jump this season.

21:11

Tune in tomorrow as our draft split series

21:13

rolls on. Back to the NBA.

21:16

The Warriors. Draymond Green was

21:18

suspended one game without pay for stomping

21:21

on the Kings' DeMontus of bonus. And

21:24

the NBA said the punishment for Green's game two

21:26

behavior was

21:26

based in part of Green's history of unsportsmanlike

21:30

acts. Green will serve the suspension for Thursday's

21:32

game three. The Kings said the bonus has

21:34

a sternum confusion. From the

21:36

incident is questionable for game three. The Warriors

21:38

will miss Draymond's presence on both sides of the ball,

21:40

especially offensively, where they're nine

21:43

points per game worse without it. All right,

21:45

whoa, tweeting this this morning. NBA

21:47

executive VP Joe Dumarz tells ESPN

21:49

on Draymond Green punishment, quote, here's what

21:51

it came down to. Excessive and over-the-top

21:54

actions, conduct, detrimental, and

21:56

a

21:56

repeat offender. That's

21:59

what separates this. where you end up with

22:01

a suspension. He continues in the next

22:03

week. DeMarce D. Espian on weighing

22:05

the circumstances of the Warriors down 2-0

22:07

to the Kings in the series. You know

22:09

what the situation is, but you have to set

22:11

that aside and look at the facts in

22:13

front of you. Repeat offender weighs

22:16

as heavy as anything. Okay.

22:19

I just

22:21

wanna point out before we get into this

22:23

subject, irony of it, I've

22:27

known Joe Dumas for days decades,

22:31

loved the man, very happy that he's in a position

22:33

that he's in.

22:35

Well, who was he a former member of? I was just

22:37

gonna say that. Wow. You

22:39

feel like it's hypocrisy? Wow. Pistons and Lane Beer.

22:42

Wow.

22:43

Amahorn. Right. Sally

22:46

Broadman. Isaiah wasn't an angel. Isaiah.

22:49

I mean, listen, I

22:51

think they don't get enough praise, what

22:53

they meant to the NBA, because everybody talks about,

22:56

you know, Boston and LA, and then

22:58

it's Michael Jordan. They're forgetting that the Pistons

23:01

interrupt everything. Obviously the Sixers in 83, but they're

23:03

forgetting that the Pistons disrupted everything. But

23:06

my goodness, it's just the irony of that

23:08

statement

23:09

coming from a bad boy piston. Wow.

23:12

Wow. I'll talk to Joe about that. JJ,

23:15

let me ask you this. What implications will

23:17

this suspension have on the Warriors? Well,

23:20

the implications in the short term is

23:22

that game three turns into a must win.

23:25

If they can win that game without Draymond,

23:27

I still believe they have a chance to win the series. If

23:29

they go down 3-0, the history tells us it's

23:31

over. Particularly because

23:33

Golden State is not a good road

23:37

team defensively.

23:39

Let's talk big picture though. And let's

23:41

just, I

23:44

don't want to do the hypothetical, but let's just say the

23:46

Warriors lose to the Kings.

23:49

I think the long-term implications of this is

23:51

that there's got to be

23:53

a different roster construction at

23:55

those positions, at the four and the five. When

23:58

the Warriors dynasty started in...

23:59

2015 there were still a lot of teams I know I was

24:02

on one of them that still played two bigs.

24:05

Two non shooting bigs and if you look around

24:07

the league right now how many good teams

24:09

play two non shooting bigs I can think of one and that's Cleveland

24:12

right Evan Mobley and Jared Allen they don't hit threes they

24:14

don't space the floor OK. But there's

24:16

two guys are so good defensively as our Draymond and Kavon

24:18

Looney I think the long term implication is

24:20

you can't go into next season.

24:23

With two non shooters in the starting lineup because

24:26

the rest of the league has caught up to you. And

24:29

I think about Mike Brown who spent years with

24:31

Steve Kerr

24:32

and has been in coaches meetings

24:35

in playoff series. And yeah you talk

24:37

about the other team you talk about strategy

24:39

and X's note. You also talk about your own players.

24:42

He's got a treasure trove of information

24:45

stored up

24:46

a scouting report that none of us

24:48

have on the Golden State

24:50

Warriors and he's taking advantage

24:53

of the fact that they start two non

24:55

shooters in the starting lineup. And we've seen that that

24:57

bear out. It's putting too

24:59

much pressure as good as Steph and Clay are. If you could

25:01

be physical like the Kings have been if you're going to allow that

25:03

it's putting too much pressure on them to

25:05

make tough shots when you have two non

25:07

shooters in the starting lineup. I

25:10

really believe that if they end up losing

25:12

this series there may be a change and I don't know I'm not saying

25:14

it's going to be Draymond. I

25:16

think Draymond Green is a Hall of Famer is one of the best defensive

25:18

players ever. I think he's the best

25:20

defensive player of our era. I

25:23

think they

25:23

should bring him back. Sign him to a long term

25:25

deal as long as Steph Curry's there. They've got a window

25:27

to continue this this run. But there's

25:30

got to be a change. They need

25:32

more shooting as crazy as that sounds as crazy as

25:34

that sounds. They

25:36

need more shooting. They need more spacing on the offensive

25:38

end. There's nothing to disagree

25:41

about what you said but you left a few

25:43

things out. Number one like

25:45

you said about Draymond.

25:48

He's going to look for a contract in

25:50

excess of one hundred million over the last two years.

25:53

One hundred million over four over the next four

25:55

years. Whatever. Personally speaking in today's

25:57

NBA market. I think he deserves that. Certainly

25:59

not too much.

25:59

But of course over $100 million in

26:02

the days NBA market with elite as

26:04

he is defensively even though he's not what he was

26:06

years ago He's still one of the better

26:08

ones today Definitely whether

26:11

or not they're gonna do that remains to be seen because they

26:13

paid wig as they paid pool the other

26:15

thing

26:16

Here's what I think he left out

26:19

Kefau loonie doesn't necessarily have to stop

26:21

over Steve kirsty per loves this man Love

26:25

love love him to death. No everyone him to go

26:27

I mean, he just loves him as a player loves him

26:29

as a person He says I mean, it's like a hero

26:32

to Steve Kerr for crying out last he could love this dude That's

26:35

a decision that they're gonna have to make and I don't he's the

26:37

kind of person He's such class personified He'll come off the

26:39

bench if you need him if you go out there and find that

26:41

that extra big that could do some things For you.

26:44

Okay, so I wanted to bring that up when

26:47

you look at

26:48

Gold State and

26:50

you're talking about those two bigs. That's

26:52

one point The other thing

26:55

is is that you left out the

26:57

part about this with Mike Brown You

27:00

said in the first part of the show JJ

27:02

Rettick That Dre

27:04

Mon has been baited. Mm-hmm. Who

27:07

came up with that stretch? That

27:09

would be Mike Brown, right? Find

27:12

the air Fox and come over that Malik

27:15

monk didn't come over that So

27:17

bonus with all the antics that he needs

27:19

knowing to pull off in Indiana and now Sacramento.

27:22

He didn't come over that That's

27:24

Mike Brown. See it left that out.

27:27

This man knows this team He

27:30

was an assistant coach for Steve Kerr. He knows

27:32

Dre Mon intimately He knows these

27:34

players if anybody can know

27:36

how to bait Dre Mon Green

27:39

who would know it better than Mike

27:41

Brown outside of the folks on the Warriors So

27:44

we have to understand that and we

27:47

also geek be clear It

27:49

ain't beyond them to bait clay a little bit too

27:52

because clay obviously one of the greatest

27:54

shooters we've ever seen Obviously

27:56

an individual that has walked around feeling underappreciated

27:59

for quite some

27:59

time and deservedly so because he is

28:02

underappreciated. That man is great. But

28:05

you can get Clay to a point, time

28:07

to time, not when it really matters, but time to

28:09

time, where you could egg

28:12

him on a little bit and get him to get

28:14

out of character and maybe four shots

28:17

that he normally would be a little bit more patient

28:19

about making that extra pass, getting it back, then shooting it

28:21

then as opposed to launching in somebody's face.

28:23

These are the kind of things that Mike Brown

28:25

are doing. And that's

28:27

what we need to pay attention to. He's tugging

28:30

on his strings a little bit

28:31

and he's doing a hell of a job clearly

28:34

because he's pulled it off thus far. Well,

28:36

let's do one thing on the series first. Sacramento,

28:39

they could have lost either one of these two games. I

28:41

mean, in the first game, Curry shot

28:43

three for 13 from three and had a wide

28:46

open three to tie the game and Wiggins had

28:48

a three to win the game with 10 seconds to

28:50

go. He had that wide open corner jumper. In

28:52

game two, even after

28:54

the, after

28:56

Draymond got thrown out of the game

28:58

and I don't even think he should have been, but after he did,

29:01

the game was tied twice and

29:03

after Thompson made a three, they were down by a point. So

29:05

it's not like Sacramento has won these games

29:08

like the Cavs have, like last night. These

29:10

games could have gone either way. So I

29:12

think the Warriors have a lot of life left

29:14

in them. I'm not sure if they're gonna win, but I'm

29:16

with JJ. I think they're gonna win them all night. They

29:18

got a cause now. This is a world championship

29:20

team in their home building against

29:23

a novice team on a road with a cause. That

29:25

is dangerous. Green comes back in game four,

29:27

it's all fired up. And hey, you know what? You

29:30

have my back, now I'm gonna have your back. And

29:32

Zabonis is not gonna get a call. They're gonna look

29:34

at Zabonis like you wouldn't believe. I think

29:36

this series is two-two. Now, as far as the whole

29:38

thing with bringing Green back, you know a lot more

29:40

about the psychology of what the team structurally

29:43

needs to do. I'm curious if

29:45

maybe the Warriors have just had

29:47

enough.

29:48

You know what? I know you said earlier

29:50

today that it's only been the one suspension of seven

29:53

years, but this is a suspension. He did

29:55

punch pool that we all saw

29:57

in training camp, and that was not just a tap

29:59

on a shot.

29:59

He punched him. That may have

30:02

caused a little divisiveness in

30:04

the locker room. So you can make the

30:06

argument to where you say, you know what? We won our four

30:08

championships. Could have been more if

30:10

he maybe didn't get out of that Cleveland series. But

30:13

he won our four championships. Maybe it's

30:15

time to just move on and

30:17

look at it a little differently. I wonder if Golden State's thinking about it

30:19

from that standpoint. I want to be clear. I'm

30:23

not counting the Warriors out. I know I said

30:25

they got to win. Like, I'm not counting them

30:26

out. I'm not counting Steph Curry out. I

30:29

want to be very clear on that. I

30:31

still think the Warriors can win this series. Your

30:34

question, have they had enough? The reality

30:37

with Draymond, and we discussed this last year, it was more contentious than we are

30:39

discussing this today. The reality is

30:41

with Draymond is that he has always

30:43

toed the line

30:45

between just aggressiveness,

30:48

over-the-top antics, and

30:51

competitiveness, and basketball play. Like, that's, he's

30:53

always toed that line. And

30:55

sometimes he steps over the line,

30:58

like he did Game 1 last

31:00

year against Memphis, like he did in 2016

31:03

with the kicks and the LeBron play. But

31:06

you can't argue with the result of

31:09

him living on the edge. You can't

31:11

argue with four championships. You

31:13

can't argue his value to this

31:16

dynasty.

31:17

And I believe this. If teams

31:19

want to operate in good faith, you have to reward

31:22

that.

31:23

You have to reward that. Now.

31:25

Hold on. Now.

31:28

When you were talking about roster construction, I think

31:31

one of the challenges,

31:32

if we are talking moving, because I love

31:34

Kavanh Looney too, I think he's extremely

31:37

underrated. One of the challenges going forward

31:39

with this new CBA is this new,

31:42

the luxury tax penalties, and basically

31:44

it's hard cap. You basically can go two years paying

31:47

the luxury tax, and then it's so egregious

31:49

that the tax that you can't move beyond that. I

31:52

think it obviously has shown that he will spend money,

31:55

but

31:56

I don't know that there's a Brook Lopez out there, like

31:58

when he signed in Milwaukee, coming off his Lakers year

32:01

for what it was at 3 million dollars like

32:03

that doesn't make that doesn't exist anymore. Right,

32:05

but he was the perfect fit for yahnes

32:07

right playing alongside yahnes is a 5 those

32:10

guys just don't exist those guys are going to get paid. So

32:12

really you have to look at trading a player I

32:14

think is is ultimately you know if

32:16

it ends up that where you've got to rebuild

32:19

the roster around stuff claim Draymond it

32:21

all to me is going to try to play only thing that

32:23

you said that I would challenge is that

32:25

you don't only in years you're too

32:27

smart not to know this JJ you

32:30

don't only get paid for what you've

32:32

done

32:33

you get paid because what this project

32:35

that you will do if

32:37

they're looking forward, you know he all

32:39

these years that Draymond has been playing and I support

32:42

him getting that contract essentially be very very

32:44

clear. I hope he gets it with go to state.

32:47

Understand.

32:50

You didn't play for free all of those years

32:52

you were winning. You got paid

32:55

then you got contract said that now they

32:57

got to project what you're going to do 3, 4, 5 years

32:59

down the road of that's what you saw that we're all challenge

33:01

on something you said earlier which is that Draymond is

33:03

not as good defense of you as he once was but

33:05

he's going to agree that in the most. Draymond

33:07

Green will make all NBA defense this year, he's

33:10

still going to have the way and had the anybody else in

33:12

the warriors had a defensive year. I'm only saying

33:14

when you pay him if you signed

33:17

in for 4 years if you go to state you looking at

33:19

what he's going to do for you for the next 3 to 4 years, it

33:22

just about what you did that's the only point that

33:24

I think you know that as far as the suspension

33:26

Joe do Mars is going to join Malika and the crew

33:29

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Where

34:59

are you today? The Eagles

35:02

just gave her a $179

35:03

million guaranteed. And

35:06

of course the Ravens, according to the

35:09

Shepherd, on the show told Stevie

35:11

and I that the Ravens owe $175 million. The Shepherd

35:13

is the whole thing. I believe him. $175 million

35:15

for Lamar. And what is this he's spent? I'll

35:18

see you down the road. What? So

35:22

I want to hear another word about

35:24

how the

35:47

government is doing. You're not going to search. They

35:49

gave a 179. Take the 175 and be happy. Point number one.

36:00

Let me tell you something right now. I'm not saying

36:02

he deserves the Sean Watson money because that's

36:04

not lying. I meant how to set up. But what I'm saying

36:06

to you is Hertz at 175. I would

36:08

remind you that Kyle Murray's getting 189. If

36:11

you are Lamar Jackson, well,

36:13

you could make the argument, why should I get paid less

36:15

than Kyle Murray? Now,

36:18

just because Hertz took 175 doesn't

36:20

mean he should have to. You shouldn't be spending other

36:22

people's money and telling them what they're saying. Oh,

36:24

you're not sending out 179. You're

36:26

crazy. I'm just saying. Sign the contract. Sign

36:28

the contract.

36:29

Jay Watson got 255 million.

36:33

Well, that's Jimmy Haslam. I'm just

36:35

telling you. He's not

36:40

showing

36:55

the big corporate of that was. Patrick

36:58

can't play that's

36:59

who it was. And did you see can't

37:01

leave whatever his name is can't leave at

37:04

the RBC down in Hilton Head? I know

37:06

he watched it play just like

37:08

that. Do you know that on the back nine

37:10

on Sunday, he was behind a tree

37:13

in the straw? Do you know they had a timer?

37:15

We can't show it to you, but I had a timer

37:18

on it with a little two

37:20

minutes and 50

37:23

seconds to take a little fire. And

37:27

hit it to the left of the tree on the

37:29

green.

37:29

Plus it took him a minute to

37:31

make a four foot. He made

37:33

it. But at 60

37:36

seconds, listen, they got a fun

37:38

don't get a five and a half hours

37:41

on a Sunday afternoon over a cocktail.

37:43

That is

37:43

a joke. Can't speed

37:46

it up for hours and get the

37:48

head off the golf course. But to what

37:50

I want JJ to react to that. He's the golfer. I'm

37:53

with you on this. There's

37:55

not golf. There's

37:58

nothing worse on a slow golf.

37:59

over. Shot work X amount of dollars. Did you see

38:02

my white

38:06

to the body out

38:07

on a lot behind the tree. Oh my

38:09

God. Can I ask you one question.

38:11

We see that golf. I get the

38:14

boy.

38:18

You counted how

38:20

many times. Yeah. Yeah, they talk about John.

38:26

Seven times. Seven times. Seven times.

38:28

And they still

38:29

wait. I was in front of him. That's two. Hey,

38:32

hey, hey, boys

38:35

got to do something. This

38:37

is a disgrace. This open age. Last

38:40

year was a two years ago.

38:41

The bathroom's over flooding.

38:44

There was sewer on the

38:47

field. And did you see what happened

38:49

this week? They were in a mess. The A's out in Oakland.

38:52

The SNY

38:53

broadcast booth. They could not broadcast

38:56

from their booth in a mess. A series.

38:59

Why? Because there was a pot.

39:01

Oh, it's living in the wall.

39:03

Oh, that is disgusting. Look at that.

39:09

That is a major like baseball

39:11

facility. That team

39:13

plays here. The open age that

39:15

one five fourth champion. Justin

39:18

and I got animals in the wall. When

39:20

he's got squirrels in his room, he hired

39:23

somebody. He knocks the squirrels

39:25

out. When I had bats up there in Connecticut

39:28

one year, I hired somebody and

39:30

I got the bats to help me out. How

39:32

a possum sitting, ask me,

39:35

and animals in the Alameda,

39:37

Conesthemum baseball allows this to happen.

39:39

Hey, I love Stanford. But Rob,

39:41

get open, let him open. Hold

39:44

him anywhere. Hold him here. Hold him

39:46

in the New York City subway system. There's less

39:48

bats. But this is they

39:51

cannot

39:51

play any more

39:53

baseball in that facility.

39:55

Now it is

39:57

a thing. I completely agree

39:59

with you. The fact of the matter is, you

40:01

know what? The Raiders

40:04

are gone. The Warriors

40:06

are gone. It's not an accident.

40:09

We have to look at the local government

40:12

in the city of Oakland, what they're

40:14

doing and why owners are looking to

40:16

run for cover and the A's ain't

40:18

far behind. That is an atrocity and a

40:20

mistake. I don't even think the players should show

40:22

up to play under conditions

40:24

like that. That's awesome. It's going to haunt

40:26

me in my nightmares tonight. I have a real

40:28

issue with rodents. Bugs, I'm fine,

40:30

but rodents, like I cannot handle it.

40:33

Something is crawling on my back right now, just looking

40:35

at that little. I guess the possums

40:36

are good for the environment. That's

40:39

what I've been hearing. Okay, that's great. Outside.

40:42

Outside. Not in the walls. You're great.

40:45

I agree. I also think it's unfair to the Oakland

40:47

A's players. Yeah. That's it?

40:50

The fact that they have such a different

40:52

experience than most

40:55

major league baseball players. That's all of

40:57

them. Literally,

41:00

if you're Rob Manfred, you should

41:02

be making arrangements for

41:05

the team to play elsewhere until they

41:07

upgrade facilities. No

41:10

players should be subjected to that.

41:12

Exactly. And not bad. That's

41:14

right. Stephen A, the inside NBA crew had

41:17

somebody say about you last night. Let's take a listen. Yes,

41:20

sir. Captain A. That's

41:23

Derek Watt of Stephen A. Damn,

41:26

Derek. I join you in the head

41:28

shape. Damn, Stephen

41:30

A. Stephen

41:33

A played for the Celtics. You

41:39

do first take in the morning. I play for

41:41

the Celtics. You'll never find,

41:44

boom, boom, boom, boom, like an airline like

41:46

mine.

41:50

I'm going to get them. You do first take in the morning. I'm going

41:53

to get them. I'm going to get them. They both take

41:55

me last night. I'm going to get them good. They got me. They

41:58

got me. I'm not that damn good.

41:59

that I'm not that you have

42:02

to work with that and on like they're quite you know.

42:05

It's a way to go because his hair so

42:07

long. It's

42:10

a little different this a little bit is

42:12

a right here to think you're 30's and it's 20. I'm a

42:14

month. And

42:17

I still like that but that's okay, I'm going

42:19

to get told by the fact that I

42:21

don't know what I'm going to get but I'm a come up with

42:25

that is that a threat or a problem. But

42:29

the Clippers in the playing games this

42:32

week was still the real deal,

42:34

which

42:34

is one of the great was not a man. I

42:37

was a good job. I

42:40

mean gross Molly out with that last yeah, no

42:43

road. Yeah, we didn't know you call you have

42:45

to pick. We found we have and

42:47

the can't be I'm glad Jay saw that

42:49

yeah, I mean you had to see it this week 2 minutes

42:52

and 50 seconds they had a little finer I mean you

42:54

got to get that. It's a big

42:56

goal for you any good though. Well, it's like I'm

42:58

a 10 handicap what about you 50, I don't play

43:00

yet.

43:25

That's because it's your Rangers who made a statement

43:27

beating the Devils 5 one in their first

43:29

game of their series New York stand up

43:32

right.

43:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we will go with that you

43:34

go with that was doing a high. Everybody thought that experience

43:37

and the goalie would be a big factor the Rangers

43:39

killed 2 penalties in the first 6 minutes of the

43:41

game scored first only played well 5

43:44

to 1 win Devils a young team. Rangers

43:46

should be in good shape in the series, you know, a

43:49

lot of that much hockey, but I watch it a lot

43:51

of this game here at with

43:52

the next. It's just a compliment the

43:54

stand. Continue tonight,

43:56

the islanders take on the hurricane

43:59

the 7

43:59

Eastern. by the wild and stars

44:01

on ESPN2 and on ESPN the Bruins host Panther 730

44:03

Eastern. Then it's the

44:05

Kings and Oilers the road to the cup

44:08

it's on Fox.

44:09

Sacramento

44:11

Kings Darren Fox was the runaway

44:13

winner of the NBA's first ever clutch player of the

44:15

year award not only did Fox lead the Kings to their

44:17

first play of birth in 17 years he averaged

44:20

a career high with 25 points per game. Fox also

44:22

led the NBA clutch scoring with 194 total

44:25

points. Alright this is gonna be fun. This

44:28

is Christopher Madrog Russo who's

44:30

the most clutch player in

44:33

NBA get ready for history.

44:35

I'm not gonna give you George Mike.

44:38

I'm not gonna give you that. Bob Pettit I'll lay

44:40

off on Bob Pettit. No Elgin

44:43

Baylor no Russell didn't score that much. I

44:46

am and you would think I take bird and I love

44:48

him and I probably should have taken him. I'm gonna

44:50

take Kareem only because

44:53

when you think about it for him for a second since

44:55

he was basically in eighth grade he

44:58

was the feature of every game he

45:00

ever played. He was the guy

45:02

that the other team had to stop every time that

45:05

the ball was thrown up in the air. He was the best

45:07

college basketball of all time. He won three NCAA

45:10

championships MVP at three NCAA

45:12

finals and obviously he lost two games

45:15

in college. He goes to the NBA he goes to

45:17

Milwaukee. They were terrible

45:19

they bring Oscar and they won a championship

45:21

and name me a game that

45:23

you can ever recall with Kareem where

45:25

he missed a sky hook at the end. He

45:27

never made that sky hook was an unblockable

45:30

shot and also he's a great free throw shooter.

45:33

I never made two free throws to beat the Pistons

45:35

to win a championship. So and

45:37

the shot that he made

45:39

against Hank Finkel in

45:41

game six of the 74 final. Oh

45:46

my lord. I told him to get the video

45:48

so we can learn. No no no we don't want to do black

45:50

and white in his day and day. We don't want

45:52

to do black and white in his day. That's something great.

45:55

Nothing doing. A great play

45:57

by play. But I'll take Kareem. I'll

45:59

take Kareem.

45:59

But that's the case. Why did you stop there? Why don't you just go

46:02

Bill Russell? I mean he did play in 11 get series

46:04

deciding games 10 game sevens and one

46:06

game five. You know what his record was 11 no,

46:11

it is not my answer, but I'm saying since he went Kareemah

46:13

do you bought why not go Bill Russell? That's what I was

46:15

saying. Bye. By the way, you had a buzz because I was looking

46:17

at my statue at a buzzer beat in 2016 the

46:20

sister of a Chris Paul your lone buzzer beat of

46:22

your career. Just want to throw that out there. Congratulations

46:24

on that Here's the deal

46:26

Thought about this long and hard

46:28

now obviously for me is MJ Nine

46:32

buzzer beating game when I mean that is MJ

46:34

for me It's MJ but when we

46:37

talked about it and they said

46:39

to us they said the question they said have your top three

46:42

1-1 So for me,

46:44

here's where the struggle was MJ was a

46:46

given And I was thinking

46:48

about

46:48

LeBron and Kobe and

46:51

I'm like, how the hell

46:52

do we leave out Larry Bird? I I

46:56

just can't leave out Larry Bird. I just

46:58

can't do it. Okay, I watch this.

47:00

I watch this brother I mean the the the

47:02

certain stuff but I gotta go with Larry

47:04

Bird then it comes down to Kobe

47:09

Full of wrong

47:10

now LeBron has had was it

47:12

like 21 game-winning

47:14

shots in his career? Kobe's

47:18

got eight buzzer be the second only to Michael Jordan

47:22

Regular season postseason combined Kobe's

47:26

percentages are better I've

47:28

got to go with Kobe Bryant LeBron

47:30

on the outside three looking in Bryant

47:32

MJ Kobe and bird

47:35

I actually can't recall Kareemah Bulgevar

47:38

ever missing a skyhook is the end of a game

47:40

because I can't recall a single Kareemah Bulgevar

47:42

game because unfortunately Yeah, I

47:44

was five when he returned. Oh, Lord.

47:46

I was five. Here's what I know.

47:49

Okay, here's what I know We've got

47:52

tracking data going back to 1996 1997 in

47:55

that period of time LeBron James has the most

47:58

clutch time points He's got over 26

47:59

six hundred only Kobe has more than 2000

48:02

in that time span. Kobe

48:05

and LeBron are the only 2 players with more than 80

48:07

game tying or game winning

48:09

field goals in the last minute of fourth quarter overtime

48:12

Kobe has 89 LeBron is 81. The

48:14

bra has the most buzzer beating game

48:16

winners

48:17

in the playoffs

48:18

got 5 of those is very clear

48:22

that it's LeBron Kobe and Jack Wright

48:24

in no particular there's the top

48:26

the top 3. You know, I can't it is a good

48:28

point. It's just hard to leave our lives. And

48:31

even I like that we need we need something.

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