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welcome to FitMitTuro fitness

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podcast. In today's episode, I

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have a guest Dustin Baker. So

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without me telling full

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destination first of all,

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welcome to my show, Dustin. And

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if you don't mind that the

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little bit my audience who you

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are and what you're doing. Yeah,

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sure. Thank you for having me

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on. I appreciate your time. Like

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you said, my name is Dustin I am

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the president of a company

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called Bio protein technology.

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We make non synthetic

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alternatives to common

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prescription pharmaceutical

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drugs. Our big claim to fame is

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the product we may call bio Pro

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plus, which is a non synthetic

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alternative to human growth

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hormone treatments are our

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specialties really are and

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continue to be endocrine and

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hormonal products for

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individuals who are interested

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in optimizing their health,

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wellness and human physiology

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without necessarily injecting

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themselves or taking on

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prescription medications or

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prescription drugs that might

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change that physiology for the

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long term or put them at risk

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for any number of side effects

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that typically come along with

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those styles of treatments.

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So I'm curious to know like,

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what is what is like if somebody

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like doesn't know what is he

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eats? T eights like what it

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means and if HGH stands for human growth

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hormone, so men and women, their

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master hormone in our bodies is

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actually growth hormone. Okay?

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It's with men. We hear a lot of

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words about testosterone with

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women we hear a lot of words

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like progesterone and estrogen

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which are great men have

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testosterone and estrogen women

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have testosterone estrogen

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clearly in different levels

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which makes them biologically

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male biologically female. But

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you know, lesser known fact

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these days is about growth

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hormone but it's it's the

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hormone that is responsible for

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your metabolic function for

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wound healing for sexual

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function for the skin, how your

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skin looks skin cells. It's a

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chemical catalyst that creates a

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cellular change in your body.

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Unfortunately, it decreases

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every single year after you

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finish puberty. So as soon as

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you finish puberty begins its

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decline, typically around one to

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2%, potentially per year. And

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then in a little bit more rare

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cases you can be at a decline of

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about 50% By the age of 35,

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which is typically why people

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wake up you know, 4044 years old

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and start feeling a little

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different, not exactly as spry

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or as energetic as they once

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did. And that typically can be

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related to a hormone decline.

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So how what are what are kind of

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signs so how you can how you're

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going to be fine? I'm 42 years

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old, so I'm I'm curious to know,

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like, What signs do you have for

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how you get diagnosed? If you

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have lower limits? Yeah,

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sure. So typically, the first

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signs of a hormonal decline I

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mean, we're all going through it

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okay. But the signs that are

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something maybe you should take

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be aware of are actually the

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depression and anxiety are they

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are many times situationally

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based, right? So there are

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things that occur in our lives,

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but we are more prone to

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depression and anxiety when we

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have things like lowered growth

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hormone. lower energy levels is

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a key indicator, lower sexual

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drive and function. Sexual

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Dysfunction is a key indicator.

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Even things like sleep

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disturbances where you're you're

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lacking getting the appropriate

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amount of sleep, which is a

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horrible cyclical negative thing

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because you have to have optimum

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sleep to secrete optimal levels

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of this hormone. And even things

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as simple as what we call

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stress, fat. just it's just a

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term we like to use, but

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subcutaneous fat, stored around

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typically your midsection, hips,

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things like that, which are

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indicative of higher cortisol

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levels or just stress and lower

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hormone levels such as growth

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hormone specifically. And is there is there like, how

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you get is there something you

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did with the blood test or or

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how you get tested? If you like

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that? Yeah. So these days, you

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know, I'm in the United States.

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I'm in Florida, so hormone

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clinics are basically everywhere

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on every corner of the street.

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You have like a Starbucks

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McDonald's and growth hormone

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clinic. And so you can go to any

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one of these clinics. A,

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potentially a general

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practitioner would maybe call

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out for these types of tests,

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you can get a typical blood

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panel. So normal hormonal blood

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panels is a normal thing we

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recommend everybody get them.

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However, when you're testing for

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a hormone, like growth hormone,

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you actually have to

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specifically ask for a test. So

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you're going to be looking for a

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biomarker called IGF one insulin

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like growth factor number one,

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and what that is, is it's the

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actual metabolite. It's the end

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result of growth hormone itself.

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You can't actually test for

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consistent levels of growth

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hormone, specifically, because

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it's a what's called a pulsating

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hormone. It goes up it goes down

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depending on how you spread or

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sleep and all different other

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types of factors. You actually

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have to test for its direct

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metabolite, the end result IGF

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one, and that is based on a

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numerical scale of where your

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level should be depending upon

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your age. And then if you are

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low, you know, then you can

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start looking at what kind of

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options are available to you.

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There are several on how to

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optimize those levels to get

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back to feeling a little bit

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better about yourself. So you mentioned about versatile

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thank you that's like something

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like we are not I live in Italy

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and and it's not like it's not

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yet some huge thing. Like

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obviously there is a lot of

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people are talking about home

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levels, but it's not still like

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I probably don't have Starbucks

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here either. Too many so or so.

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It's all kind of stuff. It's

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kind of coming a little bit

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after and obviously bigger

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cities but but it's it's still

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like we don't have fortunately

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too much like a passport or

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these kind of drugstores or

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hormone Was this what what you

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you have already there, but that

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but you mentioned those

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opportunities or how to improve

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it. You said that there are

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several ways how to improve it

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so bits polar like if you start

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like better natural ways, which

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are natural ways, the cheapest,

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fastest way to improve hormonal

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function and human beings is to

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get an appropriate and adequate

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amount of sleep. So I can only

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relate here to you know, the

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American studies because that's

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you know, what I read and have

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to pay attention to, but at

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least here in the United States

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of America and Americans that

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are a bit different, you know,

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health decline, I think, and

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then several other countries

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around the world, but in

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America, I think it's something

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like 68% of Americans have some

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sort of chronic sleep

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deprivation, meaning they're not

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getting adequate amount of

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sleep, okay? And so you have two

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very important sleep cycles in

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your body. You have slow wave

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sleep and REM sleep. Those are

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the two most important I should

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say you have other cycles, but

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those are the two most

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important. Now, the reason why

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they're important is because

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during those sleep cycles is

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when you actually are

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recovering. As a human being

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that's where 70 to 90% of your

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hormonal secretion naturally

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occurs. So if you are inhibiting

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those sleep cycles and their

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deep sleep cycles, if you're

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inhibiting them in any way, you

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are going to automatically

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inhibit your body's natural

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ability to secrete those

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hormones. So if you are living

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in a constant state of stress or

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a constant state of sleep

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deprivation, even if it's just,

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you know, not as much as you

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think you are automatically

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going to inhibit those sleep

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cycles. So if you can improve

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those, and you can do that very

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simply by improving what we call

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sleep hygiene, your sleep

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environment, the time you sleep,

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limiting things like alcohol or

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sugars or different things

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before bed. Certain sleep

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temperatures, so actually, it's

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proven that you know, human

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beings I believe, and I don't

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quote me specifically on this,

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but I think the appropriate

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sleep temperature is like 68 to

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70 degrees and so different

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things like that can improve

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your body's ability to get into

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these deep sleep cycles, which

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will then automatically I mean,

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literally overnight, no pun

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intended, improve your hormonal

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function drastically. I mean, we

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like to say, getting appropriate

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for somebody who has inadequate

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sleep getting appropriate sleep

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for the you know, first time is

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basically as close as you can

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get to adding a steroid into

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your life or a performance

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enhancing drug. Yeah, no sleep is it's something

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like I I'm my wife is always

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telling me like that. What I

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want is like, am I am I getting

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old or maybe it's about that but

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I tried to get to sleep into a

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bed every single day, same time

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prioritizing my sleep to get my

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at least seven and a half, eight

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hours sleep and am I sleeping

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like with obviously with having

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a good mattress? Good pillow and

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those sleeping conditions and

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that they are they have to be

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they have been a game changer. I

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feel very energized like a lot

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better than earlier. and

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obviously when there are

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situations in life that you do

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are going out you can follow

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your normal written you consume

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some alcohol and how much is

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that affecting? Like obviously

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we have. Many of us have these

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kinds of sleep trackers if

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you're looking what what kind of

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how it's affecting even small

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amounts of alcohol like you'd

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think that one or alcohol destroys your sleep. absolutely

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destroy your deep sleep. You

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might be unconscious right? So

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you might be asleep, but you're

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not getting good sleep. It's

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it's quite eye opening.

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Yeah. And yeah, obviously those

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like what do you like? It

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doesn't mean like even those

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sleep trackers Of course they

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might say that you didn't have a

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good sleep, it doesn't mean that

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they are always accurate. But

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always it you get a pretty good

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understanding like what is how

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much is affecting what is

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affecting and what kind of

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trends are happening like what

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foods you are when you were

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eating what kind of foods if

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you're consuming alcohol, and

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then in the long term, headcase

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benefits and that I had in my

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podcast, sleep Dr. Shelby Harris

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and see he actually said like

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all these like, I think most of

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us we have heard about these

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techniques like blue light,

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avoiding blue light or going to

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bed same time. But one thing

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would see mentioned what was

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interesting for me was was

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morning routine like we most of

13:21

focus on morning routine and or

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evening routine, what do you go

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do close to your bedtime? But

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she said that I actually what

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helps most and, and is starting

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your day like that if you wake

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up, for example, six o'clock in

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the morning to get the right

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away. The first thing like a

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really light like ideally it

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would be sunlight, but if you're

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living in a place that 6am There

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is no sunlight, even some kind

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of like lit light or or bright

13:50

green light or something that is

13:55

vaguely waking me up your body

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that is causing you that you are

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then your body's awake and you

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are actually falling asleep

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earlier and if you are having

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trouble to fell asleep and

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obviously things like being

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outside, doing some kind of

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physical activities, ideally,

14:10

outside those have been, for me

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the best ways to improve my

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sleep quality.

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Yeah, I've heard very similar

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things. I think there's a lot of

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studies to show that early light

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exposure especially on actual

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daylight is very specific to

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improving your circadian rhythm.

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So your body is prepared to go

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to sleep. So when we had I had

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my first child, we were having

14:35

and I think we just didn't know

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but for anybody that has kids,

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they understand how hard it is

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to get them to sleep sometimes

14:42

or sleep through the night. So

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at that point in my life, we

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lived in a home that didn't get

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a lot of natural light. So we

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may tried to make sure that the

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kid was outside every morning

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sunlight absorbing and getting

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into sunlight to help improve

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their sleep cycles plus you

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know, keeping a kid inside all

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days is not cool either. So just

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trying to expose her to more NAT

15:05

more actual daylight natural

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light earlier in the day

15:08

throughout the day to help them

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improve their circadian rhythm,

15:11

which is a circadian rhythm is

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literally you know, your body's

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cycles, your body's sleep cycles

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specifically for that purpose.

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So I have heard that as well.

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And I think that's important. I

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like to make sure that I go out

15:25

when I'm reading or you know,

15:25

getting on my emails early in

15:28

the morning I do it. I'm very

15:28

lucky on my front porch. The sun

15:32

goes east to west so I'm able to

15:32

watch you know the sunrise or

15:35

shortly thereafter and catch it

15:35

as it continues to go over the

15:38

house. But yeah, I 100% agree

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with that. Yeah.

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So what else do they sleep? What

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else? Waste?

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So I know you'll agree with me

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on this and I'm sure you've

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talked about it constantly on

15:50

your show, but so you can

15:53

actually spur the secretion of

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growth hormone specifically with

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high intensity interval

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training. So exercise. So you

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talked about that a few seconds

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ago about how important exercise

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is specifically outdoors. High

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intensity interval training,

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which is fast. We will call it

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extreme but I'll say extreme

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bouts of physical activity when

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we say extreme, that would be

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you know, 70 to 80% Sometimes if

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not 90% of your total maximum

16:21

output for short bursts of time

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with equal adequate amounts of

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rest thereafter in between each

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round. So that actually has been

16:29

shown to increase the secretion

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of growth hormone specifically

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post workout so you can

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literally that's another free

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tip on two things I mean that

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are going to help you out you're

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actually going to get your exercise in but you're also spurring your growth hormone

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production. Instead

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of like, I'm not aware of I got

16:44

this I've heard heard about high

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intensity interval intensity

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training but how what are your

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thoughts on on if it's like a

16:52

heavy weight lifting like

16:56

intense weight lifting or doing

16:56

some other sports like for

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example, being intense tennis or

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doing some other other sport

17:05

what is like kind of the same

17:05

effect that you don't need to go

17:10

to high interval training doing

17:10

like some jumps or something but

17:14

it's it's as some kind of ad

17:14

browsing what you mentioned

17:21

about your heart rate or

17:21

something like it's pretty close

17:25

to like kind of if you bought a

17:25

watch, it's like to join for on

17:29

intensity. Yeah. So when it comes to interval

17:30

training or high intensity

17:33

interval training, I think

17:33

typically people think about

17:37

like Sprint's and bodyweight

17:37

type stuff or you know tennis is

17:42

exactly that tennis is for

17:42

anybody who doesn't play tennis

17:44

tennis is probably one of the

17:44

most exhausting kind of Sprint

17:48

sports. I think tennis is

17:48

phenomenal. And that's great.

17:52

That's exactly what it is.

17:52

However, I think, thinking of it

17:56

from a sense of weights as

17:56

opposed to bodyweight movement

17:59

or sprint movement. is selling

17:59

yourself short. So intensity

18:04

doesn't necessarily mean the

18:04

weights or non weights or

18:07

whatever that is intensity means

18:07

the amount of volume that you

18:13

can move. So the amount of

18:13

weight or movement you can do

18:16

inside a set time period at X

18:16

amount of output. Level, which

18:21

would be you know, like we said,

18:21

7080 90% of your output level.

18:24

So, whether it's weighted super

18:24

heavy squats, or whether it's

18:28

sprints, which is just running,

18:28

right, it's the amount of effort

18:32

you put in inside of a given

18:32

timeframe, meaning if you give

18:38

yourself 20 seconds worth of

18:38

work followed by 4040 seconds

18:42

worth of rest, it just has to be

18:42

20 seconds of high output, right

18:49

it has to be it has to be a high

18:49

output. The good thing about

18:52

when you do add weights to that

18:52

equation, if as long as you're

18:57

doing them safely and maintaining your form, right, that's where things get out of

18:58

control is when people start adding weights for at high

19:00

intensity is that they're falling starts to fail and

19:02

they're they start to lose that

19:05

quality of movement, which is

19:05

how people get hurt. But the

19:09

good thing about weighted

19:09

movements in a high intensity

19:12

environment is it gives you very

19:12

specific quantifiable metrics to

19:17

show your improvement. What I

19:17

mean by that is you have a very

19:20

specific amount of weight that

19:20

you're lifting for a specific

19:22

movement. And you have a very

19:22

specific amount of reps that

19:26

either you're attempting to beat

19:26

meaning the first week you're

19:29

doing this type of training and

19:29

you're getting 10 reps at 100

19:33

pounds for just throwing numbers

19:33

out here right. And then a week

19:36

or two weeks later, you're

19:36

getting 15 reps in the exact

19:39

same amount of time at that

19:39

exact same 100 pounds. You can

19:42

see that in two I don't remember

19:42

if I said two or three weeks but

19:44

two to three weeks you're seeing

19:44

an improvement of an additional

19:46

five reps which is an extra 500

19:46

pounds that you moved in the

19:50

exact same amount of time. At

19:50

the same type of intensity.

19:54

You've been shown that you're as

19:54

a human being you have improved

19:56

and those type of improvements

19:56

are indicative of pushing your

19:59

body forward and that is the

19:59

type of intensity that you're

20:01

looking for. Because that type

20:01

of intensity is what literally

20:06

improves your body and you're

20:06

able to measure that very

20:10

specifically you can do the same

20:10

with sprinting. Because you can

20:13

choose distances and then you

20:13

can keep times right so it's

20:16

high intensity works best.

20:16

Regardless whether it's running,

20:21

playing tennis or lifting

20:21

weights. It works best when it's

20:23

done in an environment that

20:23

maintains quantifiable metrics

20:27

meaning you have measuring

20:27

sticks, you have things you can

20:30

measure to show improvement. But

20:30

also, what I think is even less

20:35

or thought about is to show a

20:35

degree regression is what I

20:41

should say. if we're talking

20:41

about an aging population,

20:44

myself included, sometimes when

20:44

you're the purpose and why it's

20:50

so important to measure and have

20:50

quantifiable metrics, especially

20:53

when we're pushing towards high intensity interval training or any type of workout is because

20:55

as you age, you will naturally

20:59

not have the abilities that you

20:59

had and I'm not saying

21:02

drastically but you won't have

21:02

you won't naturally have the

21:04

abilities you had 20 years ago,

21:04

it's just life. Okay? It's

21:09

physiology, no one's gonna No

21:09

one can beat the clock entirely.

21:12

Okay. And so, by having metrics

21:12

in place and understanding

21:18

Sometimes, you'll hit a

21:18

basically a point on the graph

21:22

like an access point where your

21:22

performance will regress instead

21:28

of progress and then you have to

21:28

relook at how you're training

21:32

and audit your training to then

21:32

get back to a state where you

21:36

can continue a progressive state

21:36

one of the smartest things I

21:39

think I ever did, because I was

21:39

very lucky. I worked in

21:41

professional sports for a while

21:41

and I was able to train with

21:44

professional athletes,

21:44

specifically American football.

21:46

And those are incredibly great

21:46

athletes, especially when you're

21:50

talking about intensity of

21:50

movement, volume, all that kind

21:54

of fun stuff. Anyway. To our

21:54

workouts and lifting with these

21:58

guys may have worked for me in

21:58

my late 20s, early 30s But as I

22:01

get closer to 40 and I'm right

22:01

there, I do worse at two hour

22:06

workouts now my I can do the

22:06

same workouts but I look worse,

22:10

I feel worse and I don't have

22:10

the performance I used to so it

22:15

takes a lot of a lot of humility

22:15

to the look at the workouts that

22:21

you're doing and then audit them

22:21

as well so you can maintain

22:25

progression and not regression.

22:27

Oh yeah, no, that's very, very

22:27

true. And I feel it to like what

22:33

you just mentioned about

22:33

yourself like that earlier in

22:36

20s. Like my background is I was

22:36

professional ice hockey player

22:39

myself and to our workout was

22:39

still kind of like even short

22:44

one and now I feel like that if

22:44

I get the one hour good workout,

22:49

that's maximum I can do like

22:49

yeah,

22:52

let me ask you a question. Do

22:52

you still I'm assuming I know

22:54

the answer. But do you still

22:54

even maybe recreationally play

22:57

ice hockey? Yeah, I do. I I'm still I'm still ICP

22:59

referee in pro league. So So I

23:06

still gotta keep up not at the

23:06

same pace anymore than those top

23:11

athletes but I'm still on the

23:11

same field. Yes.

23:14

When when you're playing with

23:14

your pals or in your you know

23:17

your league Are you are you guys

23:17

doing full contact?

23:20

No, no, no. Okay. That is

23:20

something I wouldn't I wouldn't

23:25

do any more like I don't have

23:25

any issues with physical

23:28

contact. But if I know that if

23:28

I'm was probably I'm, I would be

23:34

one of the fittest and strongest

23:34

guys there. But with the playing

23:38

with the physical contact at

23:38

this age, you know, it's not the

23:41

same thing as it was like 20

23:41

years ago. Now if I fell

23:45

somewhere I hurt my shoulder.

23:45

Earlier I was just I would get

23:50

up I would be okay. And now I

23:50

feel like that it takes like

23:53

three four weeks to recover.

23:53

Plus then I'm kind of bit

23:58

scared. I don't need to hurt

23:58

myself. I enjoy doing it. I

24:01

enjoy playing it. And if you

24:01

play your game, someone you

24:04

know, who haven't done it maybe

24:04

ever in their life or do it like

24:10

it's physical contact at this

24:10

point. I don't need it anymore.

24:14

I agree with you. And I figured

24:14

I would I would get that answer

24:17

because the amount of time it

24:17

takes to recover I know a lot of

24:20

people have never played real

24:20

contact sports and what happens

24:23

is, after a game you can feel

24:23

like you get hit by a truck,

24:26

right like and as you age, those

24:26

recovery days take man I'm a

24:31

combat sports guy. I'm more of a

24:31

hobbyist now but I do MMA and it

24:36

will take me I mean on Fridays

24:36

we spar and I'll train for a

24:40

couple hours and I will be

24:40

completely wrecked for days

24:43

afterwards. Were when I was a

24:43

younger guy. It's like yeah, you

24:46

get back up the next day. might

24:46

be a little you know, a little

24:49

rusty but you skated off it

24:49

that's exactly as well as asking

24:52

you that that's exactly the same

24:52

Exactly. That's exactly hormonal

24:56

decline. it's just it's

24:56

understanding that and auditing

25:02

your performance as you age in

25:02

some of those events that can

25:06

help you again to progress and

25:06

not regress but i i figured when

25:09

I heard you're a nice ACA guy, I

25:09

think you know exactly what I

25:11

was talking about, ya know, it's and that is that

25:12

is the hardest thing to

25:16

understand. Like when you are

25:16

eating that, you know, maybe

25:19

your mind in your mind if you

25:19

are you are doing MMA, you know,

25:23

you know exactly what you should

25:23

be doing. But then you know that

25:27

even your brain knows what you

25:27

should be doing. But, but it's

25:30

not following or is that as

25:30

quick as it used to be? Or it's

25:34

ending like the weight lifting

25:34

weights or whatever sport you

25:37

do, and it's not. It's not the

25:37

same as it used to be and you

25:43

just somehow you got to accept

25:43

it. You can still work on it.

25:47

But it's it's still it's totally

25:47

different. Especially like you

25:51

mentioned recovery times. And if

25:51

you get like those kinds of

25:55

like, injuries or something if

25:55

they happen, it's not like that.

25:59

Next day we are put to go it

25:59

takes a lot longer

26:03

now to present. So this is good, good way to

26:05

talk about that a little bit

26:09

about recovery as we as as that

26:09

is something that is that that's

26:13

that it's that hormone effect to

26:13

recovery as well.

26:19

100% Because that's what the

26:19

actual primary driver of that

26:22

function is. So it's important to understand what hormones really are like so, hormones are

26:24

simply it's uh, they're just

26:29

chemicals that your body creates

26:29

to cause they're called

26:33

catalytic chemical catalysts.

26:33

Catalyst just means triggering

26:36

of a change, right? So there are

26:36

chemical catalysts. They're

26:38

created in your body to trigger

26:38

some sort of a change and that

26:41

change is a cellular change

26:41

everything in our body is made

26:44

up of different cells, right?

26:44

And they have to be triggered to

26:48

operate. what I mean by operate

26:48

is cells die off every single I

26:53

mean every second, I mean, I

26:53

mean, on countable innumerable

26:58

amounts of cells are dying off

26:58

and and and then new cells are

27:01

being split are different.

27:01

That's called differentiation.

27:05

When cells multiply and they

27:05

replace dead cells. That's

27:08

called multiplication and

27:08

differentiation. So cells split

27:11

literally from one into two and

27:11

then they continue to split as

27:14

they die off and they replace

27:14

them. So what hormones do

27:18

specifically that we can continue on the growth hormone train is a hormone is secreted

27:20

by the pituitary gland to the

27:23

bottom of your brain, and then

27:23

it gets sent to the liver, the

27:27

liver, converts it into what are

27:27

called growth factors. We spoke

27:31

about one earlier called IGF one

27:31

insulin like growth factor

27:34

number one, which is its direct

27:34

metabolite, and what growth

27:36

factors are they're called

27:36

protein cytokines and they are

27:39

cellular signals. They are then

27:39

sent out into the blood to

27:42

trigger the cellular functions

27:42

we just talked about. The one of

27:46

the primary functions that

27:46

people are really like to talk

27:48

about that's real fun is you

27:48

know, muscle cell

27:51

differentiation and

27:51

multiplication because muscle

27:53

cells in order to repair to

27:53

grow, they have to split they

27:57

have to multiply and they have

27:57

to take the place of dying of

28:00

dying cells are dead cells, that

28:00

that growth factor that causes

28:04

that that change is IGF one

28:04

insulin like growth factor

28:08

number one direct end result of

28:08

human growth hormone. The issue

28:12

with aging is that because the

28:12

hormone declines and continues

28:20

to kind of snowball and decline

28:20

more and more and more, that

28:23

automatically means that the

28:23

cell triggers those growth

28:27

factors that are being created

28:27

from the conversion of the

28:30

hormone are going to go down

28:30

along with it. So, if you have a

28:35

specific rate of decline of

28:35

cells die off so cells are dying

28:40

off, and your as you age, the

28:40

amount of replacement cells are

28:47

going down. That means you're

28:47

not replacing the dying off

28:51

cells as much as you used to.

28:51

And as you age, that number goes

28:54

down and down and down. So your

28:54

rate of cellular decline,

28:57

outweighs or out numbers, the

28:57

amount of cells that you're able

29:01

to replicate to replace them.

29:01

That is literally aging that

29:05

leads you to death. Okay, so

29:05

when we're talking about

29:08

recovery, we're talking about

29:08

literally replacing muscle

29:12

tissue or even wound healing

29:12

right like the it's a growth

29:16

factor that triggers the cells

29:16

in your skin and in muscle

29:20

tissue and in literally living

29:20

tissue to regrow and replace. to

29:26

scab to heal an open wound. So

29:26

when you're talking about muscle

29:30

recovery for workout recovery,

29:30

the lower the amount of growth

29:34

factors that you have to trigger

29:34

cellular regeneration to replace

29:37

muscle cell tissue etc. will go

29:37

down which means the amount of

29:41

time it takes to recover will go

29:41

up. So that explains when we

29:46

were just talking about, you

29:46

know, feeling hurt or how many

29:48

days and you know, it takes this

29:48

what used to take a day takes

29:52

three weeks. That's because the

29:52

rate of cellular triggers that

29:55

you're creating in your body

29:55

goes down along with the hormone

29:58

so that that hormone is

29:58

literally the crux it's the it's

30:01

the linchpin of how your body

30:01

recovers

30:06

know that it makes made so that

30:06

He sent His hand and it's not

30:09

it's so that's why all like

30:09

older you get longer you need to

30:13

recover and it's it's a same way

30:13

like when I was a younger,

30:18

professional and and looking

30:18

like an older guys like they

30:22

were first guys to do their like

30:22

their recovery things and they

30:27

were first ones doing warm up

30:27

last ones leaving the hockey

30:31

rink and and also like really

30:31

talking about like, you know, I

30:36

don't like drinking that much

30:36

anymore prioritizing sleep and I

30:41

was thinking like 20 years ago

30:41

in 20. Is that looking at that?

30:46

Were like those are the old or

30:46

what would they what are they

30:48

doing and now I understand it

30:48

like it's it's when you are

30:53

young or you don't understand it

30:53

like that it takes so much more

30:56

effort actually to keep up with

30:56

the younger ones. Plus also

31:01

obviously, like you mentioned

31:01

recovery and and even

31:05

maintaining your physical level.

31:05

It's it takes a lot more effort

31:10

than it took earlier. Yeah, I mean, I mean yeah, I

31:12

couldn't agree any more. That's

31:15

just that's just the way life is

31:15

it's just how things are

31:19

reprioritizing things like warm

31:19

up and and cooldown is what's

31:23

what's the crazy part. Like

31:23

mentally like thinking and I

31:27

don't know if I've ever like

31:27

verbalized this before but with

31:32

the crazy part is it's just

31:32

funny. It's kind of like what we

31:34

call Murphy's Law over here,

31:34

which is you have when you're

31:38

younger, you're 20 you have a

31:38

lot more time to devote to warm

31:44

up, cooldown, stretching, but

31:44

you never do it. And then when

31:49

you're older and you're in your

31:49

you have a way less time to do

31:55

any of these things and then now

31:55

it's like you know if you had I

31:58

just done these things earlier,

31:58

it would be huge because you

32:01

couldn't pay me You couldn't pay

32:01

me years ago to do you know

32:05

proper warm ups stretching. Now

32:05

I have to stretch every morning

32:09

and I had to put a little routine together because I'm in so much pain after, you know, a

32:11

Friday sparring session because

32:16

it's, you know, it's just it's

32:16

wreaks havoc on your body and I

32:19

gotta sit on the floor and

32:19

stretch because I'm an old man

32:22

and that's just part of that's

32:22

just part of life. Yeah.

32:26

Yeah. Is there is there some

32:26

what are what what kind of tips

32:30

you have for recovery and when

32:30

we are getting older is there

32:36

what are your favorite advices

32:36

you want to give?

32:40

Man you know, I that is a really

32:40

great question. And I don't

32:46

think I've ever actually been

32:46

asked that question, which is I

32:51

may sound surprising, but I

32:51

really never have. So as a

32:55

recovery. I'm a huge sleep guy.

32:55

And I used to wear the wearables

33:00

and I do the company that I that

33:00

I own and run does make sleep

33:05

products I'm a big proponent of

33:05

those the sleep products that

33:07

are that are made and used in a

33:07

way that you know don't mess

33:13

with your your actual human

33:13

physiology. sighs I'm a big

33:16

sleep guy. I think tracking your

33:16

sleep. I don't really do it as

33:18

much anymore because I

33:18

understand my sleep cycles but I

33:21

think someone should commit to

33:21

tracking their sleep for a while

33:27

I did it for I did it for almost

33:27

exactly a year, tracking your

33:30

sleep paying attention learning.

33:30

It's just like working out right

33:35

like testing certain things but

33:35

really learning your body how it

33:40

responds when it feels good when

33:40

it doesn't and giving it I say

33:43

these terms a lot because I think they're very important but attaching quantifiable metrics

33:45

to those things. So sleep is

33:47

number one really prioritizing

33:47

it is absolutely number one,

33:50

understanding what good sleep

33:50

feels like what you know what

33:53

your sleep cycles when they

33:53

engage what time you need to go

33:56

to bed what time you go that's

33:56

my number one thing. I think

33:58

sleep is a really, really,

33:58

really big deal. I think people

34:01

and again, I'm speaking from

34:01

somebody in the United States

34:03

and we have a lot of chronic

34:03

illness and a lot of chronic. We

34:06

use the word chronic over here

34:06

all the time because it's just

34:08

constant. We go through and stay

34:08

a ton of Americans are a large

34:14

majority of Americans are

34:14

chronically dehydrated, meaning

34:16

they just don't drink enough

34:16

water and water is the is being

34:21

dehydrated is the fastest way to

34:21

decrease human performance and

34:26

decrease and increase the amount

34:26

of time you're gonna feel sore

34:30

or tired, etc. Again, being too

34:30

low being sleep deprived, being

34:36

dehydrated spikes a different

34:36

hormone in your body. And that

34:40

hormone is called cortisol and

34:40

cortisol stops. All the good

34:45

part. Let's just keep it real

34:45

basic all the good processes in

34:48

your body and only it puts you

34:48

in a fight or flight zone. Okay?

34:52

It's it's important to have that

34:52

hormone but you never want to

34:55

live in that state. It's an

34:55

elevated stress state and you

34:58

don't want to live in that state

34:58

that shuts down everything. So

35:02

sleep, hydration, and what we'd

35:02

like to say is especially with

35:05

athletes, again, I live in

35:05

Florida. So it's hotter

35:08

climates, it's humid. There's a

35:08

lot of sweating with athletes.

35:11

So we like to say about an ounce

35:11

per pound of body weight a day.

35:15

I think normal people probably

35:15

can get three quarters of an

35:18

ounce per pound of body weight,

35:18

which might not sound like a lot

35:21

but if you do the math, you'll

35:21

you'll really see how much water

35:24

you're not getting. And that's

35:24

very, very important. And then I

35:30

do a morning stretch routine. I

35:30

haven't done it forever. It's

35:34

hard to commit to because it's

35:34

very painful but it's very

35:37

effective. And the long term

35:37

benefits stretching just like

35:42

working out is well I think

35:42

working out gives you a faster

35:45

gratification than stretching

35:45

but stretching is probably the

35:48

least immediate gratification

35:48

tool, but probably the better

35:52

tool. Long term and my best

35:52

advice for people who do not

35:57

stretch which is I'm one of those people and have to be forced is just keep it simple.

35:59

Keep it short, and just keep it

36:04

to something you can actually

36:04

commit to and perform every day.

36:08

A plan always looks really great

36:08

on paper but the best plan is

36:12

the plan that you actually

36:12

execute not just you know put on

36:16

your wall and hope to get done. Yeah, no, I love those and water

36:19

water especially like obviously

36:22

sleep is sleep is something but

36:22

I think most of the people know

36:25

water. It's like, you know it's

36:25

important, but it's that for how

36:31

it's affecting for recovery.

36:31

That's that's a very good point

36:34

and I got to disagree a little

36:34

bit with stretching like or I

36:39

don't say that it's a bad thing.

36:39

But if I would have to choose

36:42

like that was something like

36:42

what I when I grew up. It's like

36:47

a 80s 90s That was the only

36:47

thing like stretching,

36:52

stretching, stretching and

36:52

nobody was talking about

36:55

mobility exercises. And now I'm

36:55

a big believer of mobility. So

37:01

what do you see the difference?

37:01

What so what do you what are the

37:04

difference between mobility

37:04

exercises and stretching because

37:07

to me, and and we probably are

37:07

on a couple different pages here

37:10

but to me, stretching is

37:10

mobility mobility is stretching

37:15

because I'm Vince please explain

37:15

it tell helped me understand

37:17

your differences between stretching and mobility exercises. Stretching

37:20

is like kind of static stretch

37:20

stretching like that you stretch

37:23

your hamstrings by its absurdist

37:23

whatever, and that mobility is

37:31

kind of joint mobility where you

37:31

try to increase range of motion

37:36

on let's say on your ankles,

37:36

knees, hips, soldiers, but it's

37:42

kind of like active motion like

37:42

that. Let's say that for

37:44

soldiers you would do arm

37:44

circles or finding some

37:48

exercises or angle like that how

37:48

you there is no like stretching

37:52

is kind of for muscle and you

37:52

are stretching your muscle and

37:56

mobility these kinds of four

37:56

joints. And what I have seen

37:59

like working with the people

37:59

like that often the biggest

38:03

issues is like if you have lower

38:03

back pain, you have knee pain.

38:08

The problem is often not like

38:08

for example lower back pain.

38:12

Majority of the people get lower

38:12

back pain from lack of mobility

38:16

on their hips, and doing some

38:16

hip mobility exercises. It's

38:22

affecting or it's helping to

38:22

usually to fix your lower back

38:26

issues or if you have for

38:26

example, knee issues. Often

38:31

problem is not that there is

38:31

something wrong obviously if you

38:33

need surgery for your knee,

38:33

there might be something wrong

38:36

with your knee but where it is

38:36

coming from it's kind of finding

38:39

the real reason what is the what

38:39

is the problem and are often for

38:43

example with knee pain. The

38:43

issue is lack of mobility from

38:47

your ankles. So that is says

38:47

that there are simple tests but

38:52

you can measure number one, what's your number

38:52

one mobility exercise for

38:57

increasing the flexibility of

38:57

your ankles to then alleviate

38:59

knee pain, knee bend asking for

38:59

a friend

39:03

Yeah no I I'm angle you can

39:03

basically like I just if you go

39:09

to YouTube look, ankle mobility

39:09

test. It's basically just on

39:13

attorney and moving forward

39:13

backward. Or then you can go

39:18

like a downward talk by guy it's

39:18

kind of like it's it's almost

39:22

like an ankle it's more like a

39:22

kind of stretching if you

39:25

stretch your calves. It's you

39:25

are doing actually same time you

39:31

are trying to improve your ankle

39:31

mobility 100%

39:37

We're talking similar languages

39:37

but yes, maybe I

39:41

agree with you. It says for me

39:41

like doing those kinds of

39:45

activities like a rotational

39:45

stuff for your back and spine

39:50

instead of like was I at least

39:50

here in Italy? I don't know how

39:53

it is in in states but if if I

39:53

say to stretch, it means for

39:58

majority of the people, it's

39:58

established that static

40:02

stretching No. I know you're saying I get what

40:04

you're saying about mobility and

40:07

stuff. So you're we call that

40:07

and again we do call it mobility

40:10

exercises but more of a dynamic

40:10

stretch a actual Yeah, yeah. I

40:14

know what you're talking about.

40:14

100% I can't say that I get

40:17

enough of that done because i

40:17

don't i I've just been working

40:20

on static stretching right now

40:20

because I am I am just the the I

40:25

am not the best when it comes to

40:25

recovery. I'll be honest with

40:29

you, I am the best for painful

40:29

intense intensity of exercise

40:33

and getting those things done.

40:33

Like I said I was the first

40:36

person to say it. The investment

40:36

in the recovery afterwards is

40:39

harder than the workout to me

40:39

itself. 100%

40:43

Yeah, no, it's I struggled with

40:43

myself to like it's not like if

40:47

I would need mobility or

40:47

stretching mobility is a good

40:50

thing like that is something

40:50

like what do you put do part of

40:53

your warmup or if you go like,

40:53

if you go to gym, you know you

40:59

have let's say that you grew up,

40:59

you have a maximum working on

41:03

maximum strength or your maximum

41:03

speed where you have to have

41:06

longer rest time. So during that

41:06

race time, you could be doing

41:10

like that is what I have been

41:10

working I have an issue with my

41:13

wrist mobility and all my

41:13

resting times I do because

41:17

mobility, good mobility workout,

41:17

it's you have it's one to 10

41:21

minutes you don't it doesn't

41:21

take forever and if you have

41:24

especially if you have some kind

41:24

of mobility issues, when you

41:28

know which area is your issue,

41:28

work on it because mobility is

41:32

not that you have to do it like

41:32

hours or even 30 minutes. It's a

41:37

good workout. It's like one

41:37

minute and you could include it

41:41

as a part of your warmup or

41:41

doing between the sets or even

41:45

if it's a one minute after your

41:45

workout part of your pull down

41:49

so you get at least addressing

41:49

those where you have some issues

41:53

to start making because it's

41:53

like everything when you

41:56

practice it and you do it more

41:56

often who's that is more

42:01

important with mobilities do it

42:01

not long at the time but doing

42:05

doing it very consistently. I mean, that's great advice,

42:08

actually, is to put it in

42:10

between your rest sets and just

42:10

you know, pepper it into your

42:12

actual existing training

42:12

regimen. I love it very smart.

42:16

No it was I wouldn't I wouldn't

42:16

like it and that is example with

42:19

the status static stretching. I

42:19

wouldn't do like if I'm doing

42:22

some heavy benchpress I wouldn't

42:22

do statics, static test

42:30

stretches between my sets, but

42:30

mobility mobility exercises that

42:34

is not affecting at all Yeah,

42:34

very cool. All right. So tell me

42:40

a little bit about then Tosha

42:40

what what your company's doing

42:45

and of course we have been

42:45

talking about natural bass and

42:49

but obviously there is a

42:49

supplementation and what kind of

42:53

supplementation what supplements

42:53

are helping with that growth

42:57

hormone and what your company's

42:57

doing. Yeah,

42:59

so I mean, there's a few options

42:59

for individuals who are looking

43:03

to increase hormone levels the

43:03

the very common way and again,

43:06

I'm gonna speak from a guy who

43:06

lives in the States because

43:08

that's who I am and that's where

43:08

you know we do most of our

43:10

business we do. Do a fair amount

43:10

of business in the Europe and

43:14

Asia as well, even in Africa,

43:14

but there's a there's a couple

43:20

different ways that people

43:20

attack the growth hormone

43:24

decline issue, the first of

43:24

which is literally a synthetic

43:29

hormone replacement, where

43:29

you're gonna go to your

43:32

physician, you're gonna get checked out, they're gonna say, Hey, you're low in IGF one,

43:34

you're low on growth hormone. We're going to give you a

43:36

synthetic hormone injection. So

43:40

you're going to inject typically

43:40

with growth hormone, it could be

43:43

daily and it could be, you know,

43:43

every other day every 72 hours,

43:48

but you're going to inject a

43:48

literal synthetic replacement of

43:53

that hormone to offset your

43:53

body's natural decline. That

44:00

drug absolutely works. It's been

44:00

around since about 1968 is

44:03

really popular in the United

44:03

States, China, Russia.

44:06

Especially in the performance,

44:06

performance athletics world. The

44:11

the issue with that and again, I

44:11

can only speak from the states

44:15

is that now it's become

44:15

extremely highly regulated for

44:18

probably the last 10 plus years,

44:18

which in then leads to legal

44:22

issues and then that leads to

44:22

extreme levels. of costs. So in

44:27

the United States, depending

44:27

upon where you're at, that

44:30

Treatment can range anywhere

44:30

from typically around three to

44:33

$10,000 US dollars a month.

44:33

Okay, so you're looking at, at

44:38

the highest level, about

44:38

$100,000 a year at the lowest

44:42

level. What's three times 12,

44:42

you got 36 grand, 30 grand a

44:46

year. That's a lot of money. The

44:46

average American only makes I

44:50

think, like $36,000 a year. So

44:50

that's an entire typical average

44:54

income. So it's not exactly the

44:54

most popular treatment now also

45:01

in many parts of the United

45:01

States. It's illegal to be

45:03

prescribed for hormonal decline

45:03

for a into anti aging athletic

45:07

purposes. So that's, that's

45:07

where that lies. It also comes

45:11

along with a lot of potential

45:11

risks, side effects, from carpal

45:14

tunnel syndrome, to insulin

45:14

sensitivity issues, to cardiac

45:17

issues, all kinds of nonsense,

45:17

it doesn't mean you're going to

45:19

get those risks are Tuesday

45:19

doesn't mean you're going to

45:22

incur any you know, negative

45:22

side effects like that, but it

45:25

doesn't mean that you're not

45:25

right. So, each individual is

45:28

different. Then you have your

45:28

your second option, which has

45:31

been popular for several years

45:31

are called peptides and peptides

45:36

is a general term. There's a lot

45:36

of different drugs that fall

45:38

into the quote unquote peptide

45:38

moniker or name. We will focus

45:44

specifically on what are called

45:44

growth hormone secreted dogs,

45:46

which means it's a drug that you

45:46

will take it's synthetically

45:50

created in a lab. We call them

45:50

compounding pharmacies here.

45:54

It's a it's a synthetic amino

45:54

acid chain that manipulates the

46:00

glandular function in your

46:00

brain. So earlier we talked

46:02

about the growth hormone being

46:02

secreted by the pituitary gland.

46:05

So this this drug will will

46:05

manipulate basically, think of

46:08

the pituitary like a lemon and

46:08

it's going to squeeze that lemon

46:11

for as much juice as it can to

46:11

create more growth hormone that

46:15

comes with its own levels of

46:15

side effects. You are

46:18

synthetically manipulating the

46:18

glandular function anytime you

46:21

you intervene and human

46:21

physiology synthetically, you

46:26

again run the risk of certain

46:26

types of side effects. Here in

46:30

the United States, the FDA has

46:30

sense of November of 2023. Put a

46:35

ban or would they like all

46:35

scheduled to they've listed the

46:39

drug as what's called a schedule

46:39

two which means a bunch of

46:42

stuff, but basically it means

46:42

you can't use the drug what's

46:45

considered off label which is

46:45

for anti aging, aesthetic

46:49

purposes, etc. So that, you

46:49

know, comes with its own issues.

46:56

And then your third option would

46:56

be the product we create which

47:00

we call bio Pro Plus and all it

47:00

is is where peptides create more

47:04

growth hormone synthetically.

47:04

And prescription HGH injections

47:09

replaced the hormone directly

47:09

Either way, both of those drugs

47:13

are still going to have to

47:13

convert that growth hormone into

47:16

those growth factors we talked

47:16

about earlier those cell

47:18

signals. So the liver creates

47:18

those hormones or excuse me,

47:21

converts that hormone into those

47:21

cell cycles. The cell signals

47:25

are only proteins, there are

47:25

there amino acid chains or

47:29

proteins are naturally created.

47:29

And those are the cell signals

47:32

that are triggering the cellular differentiation or multiplication that we're

47:34

looking for. So what bile Pro

47:37

is, is we forget all about the

47:37

manipulation of the glandular

47:40

function. We don't replace the

47:40

hormone we don't mess with any

47:43

of your natural physiology. All

47:43

we do is give you a non

47:46

synthetic formulation of those

47:46

growth factors. Those cell

47:49

signals are called proteins.

47:49

cytokines are just proteins

47:52

directly. And that way you can

47:52

trigger the same cellular

47:55

function without ever negatively

47:55

impacting your natural hormone

47:59

function or endocrine system. So

47:59

where are the other drugs? We

48:03

like to say work on the left

48:03

side of the liver, where they're

48:05

replacing or synthetically

48:05

creating that hormone? We're

48:09

just going to give you the end result which is what you're after anyway, and because we're

48:11

not manipulating any of that

48:14

nonsense, there's no negative

48:14

side effects are related to it.

48:18

Your body just uses the cell

48:18

triggers as needed. And then

48:22

anything that's leftover from

48:22

the formula that your body is

48:24

not using is just simply

48:24

excretes whether through urine

48:27

or sweat, and there's no

48:27

negative effect on this is

48:30

called natural. Excuse me. This

48:30

is called negative feedback loop

48:32

but there's no negative effect

48:32

on your natural hormone

48:35

secretion. sounds very interesting. So how

48:37

people can get your products get

48:44

in contact with you. So

48:46

yeah, so if you're here, if

48:46

you're lucky enough to be in the

48:49

area, and we do have physicians

48:49

internationally. I know you said

48:53

you're Italian. I'm not sure if we have any I'm originally from Finland. I

48:54

do live in Italy. Now sorry, I

48:59

we do have a I do have listeners

48:59

from all over the world and I

49:05

listen Yeah, no, I'm originally

49:05

from Finland. So it's not my

49:11

it's my English is my second

49:11

language. So it's not my first

49:14

language says you probably hear

49:14

so. But I do. My audience is

49:18

from all over the world. So yeah. So

49:21

the US is listening if you're lucky enough to be in an

49:22

area where we have clinicians.

49:27

Clearly the most, you know, the

49:27

most populated area physicians

49:30

we have here in the United

49:30

States. You can get our products

49:33

from any one of those doctors.

49:33

They carry them right there on

49:36

their office, they they you

49:36

know, they provide them directly

49:39

to your patient. You leave that

49:39

day with it, you're good to go.

49:42

If you don't live close to one

49:42

of our actual clinics or

49:46

providers. We have built the

49:46

online platform where you can go

49:50

to our website and you can order

49:50

directly and we do ship

49:53

internationally. There's only a

49:53

few countries that don't like us

49:57

sending them things. But most of

49:57

Europe is good to go and

50:04

actually a lot of Asia is good

50:04

to go and Africa is actually

50:07

very good to go. I think most of

50:07

the issues occur in Eastern

50:10

Europe, like countries like

50:10

Russia, and actually South

50:14

American countries like Mexico

50:14

and some of the other ones

50:17

further south. I can't remember

50:17

the name but other than that,

50:20

for the large majority, we're

50:20

able to ship to many different

50:25

nations that you can get it just

50:25

a few days we shipped to

50:28

Australia, it takes like four days for six days. And what is your website? It's

50:30

the file.

50:36

Yeah, BioProject tech.com and

50:36

bioprotintch.com and then if

50:43

your social media fellow, you

50:43

can check us out on the

50:47

Instagram it's exact same name

50:47

bio protein tech at bio protein

50:51

tech. So at symbol bi o p

50:51

ROTINTCH. We'd love to have you

50:58

as part of the team come check

50:58

us out. You got any questions?

51:00

We are you know, we're here to

51:00

help out.

51:03

Perfect. will add links to show

51:03

notes and thank you for coming

51:07

to my show. I love you. Thank

51:07

you for sharing your wisdom and

51:12

thank you perfect, thank you so

51:12

much.

51:21

People are gonna think I'm an

51:21

idiot. I didn't catch on to a

51:23

Finnish accent and I was like, I

51:23

guess this guy's from Italy. I

51:26

was just, ya know, it's, it's, you know,

51:27

it doesn't matter. I happen to

51:31

live here now for almost 20

51:31

years. So where are you at in

51:35

Italy? Close to Botswana is like

51:35

a South almost Austrian border.

51:41

Okay, okay. Good to know. My my

51:41

wife.

51:45

I know some Americans know the

51:45

Dolomites. It's I lived in on

51:49

the Dolomites. Okay, all right. I'll have to check

51:51

with my my wife. Her family is

51:54

extremely Italian. My my

51:54

grandparents on her side are

51:57

literally, you know, yeah, they

51:57

barely speak English. They're

52:01

very Italian. But I'll have to

52:01

check with her off to ask her

52:04

about that. See if she Oh, this is actually it's a

52:06

German speaking area like my

52:10

wife is Italian but speaks as a

52:10

first language. German so okay,

52:16

it's a two. It's like a in

52:16

Canada is Quebec is France.

52:21

Good? Yeah. Here is a German

52:21

Italian area. A beautiful area

52:26

of tourists and if you ever come

52:26

to Italy, I can only recommend

52:31

to come to South Tyrol. I'll have to tell her about

52:34

that. It's very interesting. All

52:37

right, man. I appreciate you

52:37

having me on. Thank you so much

52:39

for your time and I appreciate

52:39

you coming to talk to you soon.