Creative Director and Co-Director of Magic Xiaowei Wang returns for our season finale!

We talk union solidarity, life in a time of crisis, and our upcoming class on tarot and writing with The Shipman Agency. Dorothy breaks out the Modus Operandi Deck for a confessional tell-all with the three hosts that touches on what we can’t let go of, the value of money, the role models and safety we wish we had when we were younger, and why we have a grudge on Timothée Chalamet.

Five and Nine Season 2 is about transitions. As falls sets in in the northern hemisphere and spring in the south, Five and Nine looks at change in all its forms — leaving jobs, changing industries, starting new paths, and the wisdom that tarot and magic have to offer in a world that seems to be ever in flux.

This is the Season 2 Finale. Paid subscribers will begin to receive our paid programming shortly. Our podcast returns in winter 2023!

From Our Hosts

* Robin DG Kelley

* Tech Workers Coalition

* Black Workers Alliance

* Change Everything: Racial Capitalism and the Case for Abolition, by Ruth Wilson Gilmore and Naomi Murakawa

* Modus Operandi Deck

* Ethical Rainmaker Podcast

* Five Mindfulness Trainings

Previous Five and Nine Episodes Mentioned

* 2.02. Magic in the Everyday, with Helen Shewolfe Tseng

* 1.07. Burnout, Biases and Body Mindfulness, with Kai Stowers

Tarot Cards Discussed

* Hanged One (Hanged Man)

* Page of Cups

Music

* Episode and Outro: Ain’t we got fun, composed by Richard A. Whiting and performed by the Benson Orchestra of Chicago, 1921.

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Five and Nine is a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. We publish “moonthly” — every new moon 🌚 and full moon 🌝 — , and we provide an ongoing critical discussion through readings, reflections and debate.

In this new world, we’re all rethinking the meaning of work and justice in our lives. Our lives and livelihoods are more essential than ever in identifying ways forward for society that can be grounded in care, compassion and sustainability. 

Directors of Magic. Dorothy R. Santos and Xiaowei R. WangCreative Director. Xiaowei R. WangLead Producer. Ana Mina (aka An Xiao)

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