What lessons does the dream world hold for each of us in our waking lives? Artist and dream explorer Amira-Sade Moodie takes host Xiaowei R. Wang on a live dream exploration, teaching us along the way how to build dream circles of our own. We learn about Amira’s early career explorations, taking them from the streets of New York to an organic farm in Hawai’i, and the wisdom of listening to spirit as we build our livelihoods. Also: why drama is part of the human condition.

Season 3 is all about rest. In a time of extended crisis, permacrisis and polycrisis, taking time to decompress is not just a benefit but a necessity. Learning to slow down, reflect and make space for expansive thinking is part of what makes rest so sweet but also so elusive. Grab a blanket, turn down the lights, and turn up Five and Nine this season to hear new perspectives on the age old practices of reflection, rejuvenation and recovery.

About Our Guest

* Amira-Sade Moodie (Delicate Chaos)

Books

* The Happiness Hypothesis, by Jonathan Haidt

* Many Lives, Many Masters, by Brian L. Weiss

* Indigo Som (dream work teacher)

* Robert Moss / Way of the Dreamer

* Awe: The New Science of Everyday Wonder and How It Can Transform Your Life, by Dacher Keltner

Music

* Episode: Golden Dreams (Mazurka), performed by Chris Chapman, 1907.

* Outro: A rag-time episode, composed by Paul Eno and performed by Fred Van Eps, 1911.

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Five and Nine is a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. We publish “moonthly” — every new moon 🌚 and full moon 🌝 — , and we provide an ongoing critical discussion through readings, reflections and debate.

In this new world, we’re all rethinking the meaning of work and justice in our lives. Our lives and livelihoods are more essential than ever in identifying ways forward for society that can be grounded in care, compassion and sustainability. 

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