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0:37

Hi, everyone. This is Flats, and Shanks

0:39

is on there, and I'm talking quite quickly because this is going to be quite a quick

0:41

pod because we've got stuff to get on with. Hi, Tom. Have you

0:43

ever listened to a podcast and realized you're

0:45

on x2? It's going really, really, really quick. That's

0:48

what it's going to be like on this one. He put us on x2. You won't even

0:50

understand us. This is on normal speed, this one. One

0:52

to the twos to the threes. Yeah,

0:54

we're having a really quick podcast because we've

0:57

decided that it's 8.58 now.

0:58

We're going to be finished by 9.30. Isn't

1:01

that right, David? That's right. That's right. What

1:03

do you want to talk about Brexit, Turkish vote? Yeah,

1:06

but what speed you have your WhatsApp messages on when

1:08

you listen to them? Normal

1:12

because I'm not a weirdo. I

1:14

can't do it, mate. I've got my

1:17

dad. Only Elon Musk listens to one times

1:19

two, mate. And

1:22

you're only Elon Musk. My

1:25

dad is a psychologist reckons that if

1:27

I rewind 30

1:29

years and I'd be diagnosed with a

1:31

couple of different things and not like in

1:33

a really lads way, but it's like you

1:35

have an issue with concentration. Would you

1:38

say to me? You

1:40

have an issue with concentration in that

1:42

you can concentrate just not for very long. My

1:45

daughter's the same, unfortunately, but it's like

1:48

that's why reading is like save me a little bit

1:50

the last 10 years because I just I didn't

1:52

read a book for years and years and years and years and years because

1:54

I just couldn't get myself to concentrate by talking

1:56

myself and

1:59

I cannot listen. I cannot

2:01

listen to WhatsApp voice messages

2:04

at normal speed if they're longer than

2:06

Yours are alright because yours are short and you do about

2:08

six in a row If it

2:11

but Michelle's ones are minimum 90

2:13

seconds every single time She says what

2:15

she's gonna say in the first five seconds But

2:18

it's a minute and a half and you got to hang on in case

2:20

some other goal gets dropped But

2:23

it is like no goal get one point

2:25

five standard standard. No

2:28

goals getting dropped at the moment No

2:32

I Was I

2:34

had catching turds. I

2:36

Was not I'm named dropping now, but I'd coffee

2:39

yesterday morning with Joe Maddock the former

2:42

bath and Saracens winger who has

2:45

just been relieved of his duties at

2:47

Bath as a tack coach and he's obviously

2:49

an old friend of mine and a Great

2:52

bloke and we had coffee yesterday And

2:54

then I met up then I'd lunch with Francois

2:56

Lowe and Jamie Roberts joined us because I saw

2:58

doc in the gym He wasn't working

3:01

out. I was obviously and

3:04

What's he doing this he sounds that he looks

3:07

he seems to me like the kind of guy that do f45

3:10

Whatever that is. I just know it's something Yeah,

3:15

and it actually he'd wear really high

3:17

shorts like old rugby shorts and

3:21

Around a Ralph Lauren

3:23

cap, you know the ones that you like to wear I've

3:27

been through the wash hundred times. Yeah

3:31

No, he's he actually looks quite normal in the gym,

3:33

but he wasn't working out he was

3:37

Daddy daycare because he doesn't

3:40

have a job need one does

3:42

he? With Jamie

3:44

Roberts in his testimonial year. So just have

3:46

a couple of years off mate Does he walk around with a teacher

3:49

says Roberts on the back 12?

3:52

Says Shanklin on it No,

3:56

he's no you wouldn't

3:58

know he doesn't he wears Lovely gears,

4:01

perfectly normal. But yeah, we were sort

4:03

of talking about World Cup stuff, and there's

4:05

the telly stuff, and then there's what you and I

4:08

call corporate.

4:09

And everyone was looking around, no one wanted to say

4:11

anything. And you've obviously got, I do

4:13

the TV stuff, but those two are the legends. No

4:17

one wants to talk about it. Like Francois, you'd never

4:19

know Francois played rugby if you met him except to look

4:21

at him. He doesn't mention it, he doesn't mention

4:24

World Cups, nothing, but

4:27

he was like, yeah, there's sort of a lot of

4:29

stuff happening. I said, mate,

4:31

what you're finding is probably that there's loads

4:33

of ideas and no one's actually basically

4:37

confirming anything. He's like, yes, that

4:39

is unfortunately the way it goes. The

4:41

logistics can be quite last minute. People

4:44

are asking me, and I'm just saying, yeah, probably

4:46

MasterCard, I just made it up. I

4:50

just want to sound really popular,

4:53

and a big dog. Yeah, just, yeah, just

4:55

a big MasterCard, I think. I'm

4:58

not sure, nothing being confirmed.

5:00

In Japan, I did some stuff with MasterCard actually,

5:02

and

5:04

it's like you got the list

5:07

of stuff through, and I'm like, right, I've got to do this, this, this,

5:09

this, and this on a day when I'm working and doing this

5:11

and commentating and doing it. I was like, oh, God, this, Michelle's

5:14

like, honestly, it'll be fine. And I was a little bit

5:16

stressed about it, because I'm like, I don't, and

5:18

you get there, and there's this list of stuff you've got to do,

5:21

and you realize that all the MasterCard people were

5:23

totally chilled, and everyone's just having a beer

5:26

with Dan Carter in the bar, not me. And

5:28

it's just the most chilled thing in the world. Just

5:31

going to get the terms and conditions in, have you, at the bottom? It

5:33

was great, it was actually

5:34

genuinely, I'm not picturing business, I'm

5:37

not doing anything with them at this World Cup, but they were

5:39

very nice people to work with.

5:42

But yeah, so that was a nice

5:44

day off yesterday. So I was up

5:46

at sale on Sunday, which we'll talk about, but

5:49

yeah, Jamie had the pork chop. I

5:53

was going to have the pork chop, but I was thinking. I was

5:55

not turning off the cow pie.

5:57

I was thinking.

5:58

Who's

6:00

the bloke in Beauty and the Beast? Gaston?

6:05

Gaston. I thought

6:07

Gaston would have the cow pie. No,

6:11

he had the pork chop,

6:12

and I was gonna have the pork chop. Because I've had it

6:14

before and it was great. And then Flo

6:17

ordered the crispy chicken burger, and I said, oh God,

6:19

I said to the waitress, and she goes, I said, what would

6:21

you have? And she's like, the crispy chicken burger is mega.

6:23

So, you're a

6:25

burger guy, it was so good, mate. Do

6:29

you think he looks after his diet? Is

6:31

he like John Barclay, I worked

6:33

with John a bit, and

6:35

he turns up to games, and

6:38

you're the same as me, mate. You turn up, you're looking for food.

6:41

You might have to go to one of

6:43

the burger vans, hot dog vans,

6:45

get some chips. Humble, humble. Well,

6:48

he'll have some sweets on you. He brings

6:50

homemade soup. What?

6:53

In a flask.

6:56

Like he's going camping. I've always

6:58

got on a right with him. He

7:01

has some wicked trousers on at the weekend. You know, like, everything's

7:04

sort of quite fitted now. People

7:06

wear skinny jeans,

7:08

tapered jeans. He had a pair of trousers

7:10

on from Reese. And

7:14

there were a type of trousers that

7:17

Ian Wright would wear. I

7:19

know exactly what you mean. Ian Wright

7:21

can wear them, but

7:23

on anyone else, they try too hard-fashioned. I

7:25

said, what are you doing, mate? Parkour. Are you

7:28

a street runner? You're

7:32

the worst bloke to turn up to, though. You know that.

7:34

Of course I do. It's got so much room in there.

7:38

I saw who was

7:40

it was wearing funny trousers the other day at a golf day, the gift

7:42

that keeps on giving. Oh, Nicky Robinson. Nicky

7:45

Robinson. He had a pair of, I can't remember

7:47

who it is. It's

7:49

like Van Rys. It's like Van Ruyten or Van

7:51

Ruyten. So South African. And

7:53

you start wearing them a couple of years ago. They're like proper

7:56

tapered trousers. Like you're

7:58

riding a bike to work.

8:00

you've got a big neck and you've sort

8:03

of put your little trousers on actually

8:06

think they look nice.

8:08

You get cold ankles but it's

8:10

one of those things.

8:12

It's like when white boots first come

8:14

out, you gotta be good to wear white boots. He's

8:16

got a handicap of twenty and he's

8:18

wearing like tight

8:20

trousers. Um ankles on show

8:24

leather foot joist and he and

8:26

he's shy. You think he'd come on mate.

8:28

You topped off the other night on

8:31

Friday night and he pays off scratch. Did you know that?

8:33

Yeah. I

8:35

mean, he's addicted to golf but there are lots of people who play a lot

8:37

of golf who don't play off scratch. What do you play off? Um 6.5.

8:40

That is that's exceptional

8:43

but I saw a scratch mate. I saw like a meme or

8:45

a photo and it was like every lab once

8:47

they hit mid thirties, their life

8:50

will be taken up by one of these. I saw

8:52

that one was golf. One was like cars,

8:55

one was barbecue, barbecue and the other was lawn.

8:58

Yeah and mate honestly,

9:00

I look at that and laugh because I am I've

9:03

got a small lawn, you know, in our little garden

9:05

but I am obsessed with it. I can't do

9:07

a huge amount with it but I've just been investigating getting

9:09

um green thumb. You know, you see

9:12

the green thumb vans drive around. So,

9:14

what green thumb come and do is

9:16

you look, they basically spray special stuff

9:18

on your lawn and all the little weeds

9:20

and all the little anomalies that aren't pure grass

9:23

disappear and you just end up with a snooker table

9:25

for a lawn. Can you get

9:27

a brown thumb? Well,

9:28

I got you. Yeah, you

9:30

can you can also do that. It's cheaper

9:33

but I got a little quote from a lawn and

9:35

it was like, you know, £19,000 or

9:36

something. It wasn't

9:39

but it's like, yeah, we come every so often and

9:41

we do this. We charge that. I was like, **** that's

9:43

like servicing a Porsche and the

9:46

lawn is actually fine. I'm alright. Thanks. Um

9:49

so I might not do that but I am kind

9:52

of obsessed with it that what you need

9:54

if you want a healthy lawn, I've said it again

9:56

before I say it again. He's a robot mother.

9:59

I had

10:00

new turf last year because my garden done, but it's

10:03

I think it's the weather, the kids playing on it, it's looking

10:06

quite bare, so I'm going to have to put a load of seed

10:08

onto it. But

10:09

there's nothing like mowing your lawn and

10:12

then sitting down after you mowed it and having a

10:14

look back at it and thinking, good

10:16

job. Just a bit. I haven't

10:19

need to skim the edges, but can't be asked. I haven't charged up

10:21

the strimmer. Yep. But trust

10:23

me, if you put a bit of

10:26

seed down, get it going and

10:28

you you get

10:30

a robot mower and get it all wired in

10:32

and do the little tweaking and get it right. Your

10:34

lawn will go from strength to strength because it does does

10:37

a millimeter of mulching every day. It's brilliant.

10:39

If my lawn was a haircut, it would be Martin

10:42

Keown, Jamie Roberts, same

10:44

style at the moment with

10:47

a little bit of flats and shanks around the

10:49

place. Jamie

10:51

Roberts, wife, lovely wife said

10:53

to me yesterday that I should join in their

10:57

small group personal training session at the gym.

11:00

Instead of doing weights, I should go and join in

11:02

with them. And honestly, you know,

11:04

like it used to be when we went to the gym at Bath Uni

11:06

with the bath team, there were

11:08

members that would say, can you any chance they

11:10

can have a separate area because we're intimidated

11:12

by them because they're all were invested. They're all big

11:15

and loud and lifting massive weights. And we were really chuffed

11:17

that we're intimidating the public. But I

11:20

have genuinely would be intimidated to

11:22

join. It'd

11:23

be a couple of months they do it with. I couldn't

11:25

join that group because they

11:27

do like loads of flexibility

11:30

and jumping around and yoga type

11:32

stuff and movement. I just

11:34

I am honestly I'm not as bad as Haskell,

11:36

but I'm like a popper domain. I'm that

11:38

flexible now.

11:40

I'm with you, mate. Not as

11:42

bad as Hask. He is he is in trouble. Like he's

11:44

in physical trouble. He looks great, but he is seizing

11:47

up. I'm not. He is a breeze block.

11:49

He's these terror. He was

11:51

at Tyndall's golf day on Friday,

11:54

but I didn't see him because I had to shoot off.

11:56

Yeah, he was good.

11:59

DJing, he is really good. And he's

12:02

one of those guys that people love to say, I bet he's

12:04

crap, or he went, he did my mate's student

12:06

union. Apparently he's terrible. He

12:09

should stick to the rugby chat. He's not, he is really

12:11

good. I've seen him a few times and he's

12:14

a vibe mate. He's an absolute vibe. You know, last

12:16

year at the golf, at Tyndall's

12:18

Golf Day, Austin Healy ran into me with a

12:20

golf buggy on purpose. Yeah.

12:23

Said the brakes didn't work, but

12:25

they did work because I tested it. And

12:27

I snapped his putter after the round and put it back

12:30

in his bag. And then he pulled out a

12:32

week later. He had no putter. Yes.

12:35

So I said to Tynds, I said to Tynds,

12:38

mate, when you do the welcome on the putt in green with a

12:40

mic, can you let me make an announcement

12:42

please? And he said, yeah, no problem. So

12:44

he said, welcome. And he said,

12:46

there'd be a few announcements

12:48

today, but the first one I'd like

12:51

to invite Shanks to come up. So everyone's

12:53

there. It's

12:55

like 150 people, celebs, the lot.

12:58

And I get on the mic and

13:01

say, thanks, Mike. I went, oh, God,

13:03

I didn't think I was as nervous as this. Um,

13:07

then I explained what happened

13:09

last year.

13:11

And

13:15

I said, you know, they

13:17

wanted to ban me from the event for an act of aggression

13:21

because,

13:22

you know, Austin, the brakes didn't work. And

13:24

I thought they did. And

13:26

there was a mix up. And I snapped his putter and, you

13:28

know, had to plead with Mike, Zara and

13:31

Autumn to let me back

13:33

on this trip. And they have. Who I called

13:35

Summer once. By accident, being

13:37

a bracer. And

13:40

as a

13:41

token of respect and rugby values,

13:45

I've bought the exact putter that

13:48

I snapped last year.

13:51

And the exact replica,

13:53

the exact size. So Austin, would you come up

13:55

and accept this? As a

13:57

sorry. And he came up and I pulled

13:59

out his putter.

13:59

as my boys putter.

14:05

I wondered if you were gonna say that. And the best

14:07

thing was, you'd

14:08

be

14:14

looking for me all day, I know it. The

14:18

best thing was, I had

14:20

to shoot off after the goal so you couldn't even try and get

14:22

me back. Very

14:26

good. I was hoping you were gonna say that. That's

14:29

great. Well done mate. I've been planning

14:31

it for a year. And then I had to

14:34

say, and then he started messing around with

14:36

it. I said, let me have a look at that. And he passed it

14:38

to me. I said, thank you. That's my boy, so I have to take it back to him.

14:41

Yeah,

14:41

exactly. We already snapped it. I made

14:45

sure everything was hidden. My clubs were hidden. He didn't know

14:47

where they were. Yeah, good prep.

14:49

Well done. Well done. That is good

14:51

prep. Yeah, thank

14:55

you. So I'm off to Leeds today, which is one of the

14:57

reasons we've got to be sharpish. I've got a lovely,

15:00

do a lovely thing tonight. I'm name dropping again, but

15:02

can you all just get over it?

15:04

John Inverdale

15:06

actually got in contact and said my friend,

15:08

for some reason, would like you to go

15:11

and speak at his events. I'm doing that in Leeds for Night

15:13

Frank. This later on, but I've

15:15

got to go to Leeds. I've got to go to Leeds and back in a day,

15:18

which is, it's four hours from Bath in the car.

15:22

What time's the gig? I was

15:24

good. The truth is, Tommy, I was gonna just

15:27

get a driver. They

15:30

didn't offer as they should. They didn't need to offer.

15:32

It's too late. I can't get a train. It's too late

15:34

to finish to get a train home, which is also

15:36

four hours, by the way. But I have

15:39

to be back tonight and I was

15:41

going to get a driver and my

15:43

mate normally does it for me. You know, my best mate slash

15:46

staff, Ollie, he can't do it. So

15:48

do you want the truth? I would have had to pay full price

15:51

and it was like 700 quid and I was just 600 and I

15:54

was like, you know what?

15:55

I'd rather stop and lay by for a sleep and

15:57

have a cost to express and save myself all that money. I'm

16:00

driving myself. How much money do you reckon I can make

16:02

if I was your driver a year? Oh

16:05

mate, I tell him I'm gonna pay him. I've never paid

16:07

him. The channel's like,

16:09

oh yeah, I've sought you out, mate. Not sought him out. You

16:12

could be like, Not

16:15

a lot is the truth. Like entourage,

16:18

it just worked for you. Someone

16:20

told me that Snoop Dogg pays someone

16:24

$40,000 a year to roll his blunts. Who's

16:27

one of his mates from childhood. He

16:29

rolls his blunts, which I guess are joints or similar.

16:32

He rolls his blunts for him for 40 bags. I

16:36

love shit like that. I read somewhere that Mika

16:38

Richards gets his haircut like three times a week and

16:41

it costs like 400 quid.

16:45

I did see a thing on Instagram with

16:48

Mika, Mika, Mika Richards on

16:51

the touch line. And it was like, this

16:53

is his outfit. And it's like, boom, boom, boom.

16:55

And it was, mate.

16:57

It's like,

16:59

it's mad like platinum Patek

17:01

Philippe watch is one thing, but then it's the shoes,

17:04

no socks, obviously. Trouser's shirt,

17:06

jacket. He was just looked, he looked amazing.

17:09

Like he looked, not try hard. He just looked

17:11

immaculate.

17:12

And because he's, when you're,

17:14

you can pull it off

17:16

when you've just got a personality like his and

17:18

he's just evidently just a wicked bloke

17:21

with an amazing sense of humor. Nobody

17:23

sees him looking like that and thinks he's

17:26

trying too hard or he's a knob or he's a show off. Cause he's not

17:28

just a wicked bloke with some cash. Is there anything

17:30

I would say like, I love him with, yeah, so

17:32

do I.

17:33

He's the foil for a lot of them. The

17:35

CBN stuff they do. I

17:39

think it's Kate Upton. I

17:42

remember, I can't remember who it is, but him, Cari

17:45

going on re it's brilliant. Oh,

17:47

it's brilliant, mate. It's brilliant. I

17:49

reckon that's the best platform and

17:51

they've got the best

17:52

content. It's fun and

17:55

it's also technical as well. But

17:58

he's a type of player. that will

18:00

lead a new wardrobe every sort of six months

18:02

because he

18:04

wears it tight and then all of a sudden he's gonna go

18:06

through a stage where he

18:11

can't train as much so he's gonna get bigger in these

18:13

new clothes. I'm at a stage now, so

18:15

I've gone from a large

18:17

Ralph Lauren shirt to an XL.

18:20

Yeah, and I'm trying to do my shirts

18:22

up and the

18:24

buttons. I mean, I've

18:26

had to change the thread to fish and wire, but still

18:30

doesn't look great. Yeah,

18:34

on that I went to the GP yesterday,

18:36

which I never do, but Freya forced me to bring the

18:38

GP for an emergency appointment. Not an emergency

18:41

appointment and on the day appointment. I've

18:43

basically had a sore throat for about six weeks,

18:45

eight weeks, and cuz I talk a lot,

18:47

it never gets better. So I talk

18:50

for a living, she made me go and they've given me

18:52

antibiotics, which is lovely, but

18:53

I said I'll do

18:56

a medical the other day for some, I had to fill out

18:58

a form for life insurance stuff to switch my life insurance.

19:02

And

19:04

there are lots of blood pressure, I said, I don't know. So

19:06

I thought, I'll get it measured at the GPS, I got a machine,

19:08

you stick a token in. Blood

19:10

pressure, not ideal, but not amazingly

19:13

high, but higher than it should be, so I'll have a look at

19:15

that. But then the doctor was like, yeah, but if

19:17

you've had a busy half an hour, your blood pressure's higher. So

19:19

if you tested it when you woke up in the morning,

19:22

there's a good chance that would be fine, so don't worry. But

19:25

weight, 130 kilos on the nose. Height,

19:32

you're not gonna like this. Here we go,

19:34

5'11 and a half. You're

19:37

not gonna like this, mate.

19:39

I'm 6'1.

19:42

Got better posture now, have you?

19:44

I'm not 6'1, but

19:47

I took it, I'm taking it. Well,

19:49

no, it said 188 centimeters is what

19:51

it said.

19:53

So what's that? But I have my trainers

19:55

on.

19:55

It's 188 centimeters, but they're not 5',

19:58

I say. I

20:00

took a few centimetres off and it was 6'1". And I thought,

20:02

well, Chateau's like that. I think

20:04

I got your in a stall. Yeah. Yeah, got

20:06

off my tiptoes. But your 130 kilos, mate, that

20:08

is... That's

20:12

big.

20:13

It's bigger than Dan Cole. When's it due? I

20:16

know, I know. But

20:18

it's difficult, because... Yeah, on

20:20

the same day. ...I'm eating food. Yeah, I'm with you,

20:23

I'm with you. I'm quite strong at the moment. Like, our gym's

20:25

going all right and all that stuff. It's like, it's not all

20:27

bad weight. It's just, there's a lot of it. I

20:29

rode today.

20:31

Did you? You're

20:33

worried about the weight, aren't you? Yeah. It's

20:36

just my clothes, mate. Like, down

20:38

below, fine. But just

20:42

up top, I'm just, I can't wear

20:44

any shirts. Yeah.

20:47

So keep wearing a t-shirt underneath them and leave it open.

20:50

Thing is, to be crass for a minute,

20:53

I actually thought to myself a

20:55

little while ago that I've got nice

20:58

jackets and shirts and stuff that you wear on TV all

21:00

the time. And, because

21:02

I know, like, some guys like to wear crazy stuff

21:04

on air, but I'm not cool enough to wear

21:07

that. And I'm not, that's not my scene. So I'd, if

21:09

I'm doing international, if I'm doing the Champions

21:12

Cup Final on Saturday, which I am, I will

21:14

wear smart trousers, a smart shirt and

21:16

a smart jacket. I won't try and reinvent the wheel and

21:18

wear, you know, the all headband

21:21

with diamonds in it. And go vanilla, I get it. I'll

21:23

go vanilla, but I'll go classy. Classic.

21:26

Labels.

21:27

No, not labelled. No, you won't see your labels. But I have to have

21:30

everything made because of my odd physique. So

21:33

I actually went back to the tailors I've used before.

21:36

I don't know why, fam. I do.

21:39

I can go and buy stuff off the rack and have it altered. It never

21:41

fits properly. Always looks shit. Always,

21:44

every single time. We can tell a mile off. So it's like, right. So

21:46

I went back to the tailor I've used before and

21:48

he's got my,

21:49

you know, patents and stuff. And he's like, you will do a quick

21:52

remeasure and adjust a few things. And

21:54

it's like, right. What are you thinking? I was like, well, I'm thinking

21:56

three jackets, three jackets and

21:59

you know.

21:59

I don't know, five shirts.

22:01

So what do you reckon that costs?

22:04

Don't ruin my game. Three jackets

22:07

and five shirts. Well,

22:11

jackets are quite expensive. I'd go grand. 10 grand.

22:17

3000 quid a jacket, 200 quid a shirt. Are you wearing

22:19

like Egyptian cotton? No mate, it's bespoke.

22:22

There's made to measure and there's bespoke. So made to

22:24

measure is different. Bespoke is

22:26

literally like a roll of fabric and they start from

22:28

scratch so that it actually fits. Because

22:31

made to measure, like if you get made to measure,

22:33

what they do is they get, they call it a block. They get the closest

22:35

jacket that fits you. So one that's a bit too big for

22:38

you. And then they cut it back. But for me,

22:40

I've got the arms of a T-Rex. So

22:43

you just cut the end. Yeah, arms

22:45

are crocodile. You cut the ends off my sleeves. The

22:48

bit that's meant to be big for like the middle of your arm

22:50

is around my

22:50

wrist. So the bit around my wrist is huge.

22:53

Like a wizard sleeve, like a wizard.

22:55

And then it's like, oh, we'll pull the front in because

22:58

for the size of my chest, I've got a bit

23:00

of a gut obviously, but for the size of my chest,

23:02

my gut isn't that big. So, you know, so actually

23:04

they

23:05

can't pull it in enough. So I could, you

23:07

can fit a basketball in between my stomach

23:09

and the buttons, even when they've pulled it in or rugby

23:11

ball, it's like, it looks terror. Are they foreign,

23:14

the tailors? No. Oh.

23:17

Cause I can just imagine them like talking in foreign language

23:19

when they measure a new weapon. Can we go in? Do

23:22

a job on this bloke. Look at the state of this guy. What is

23:24

he? See the car he rocked up in. Let's

23:27

do a job on him. It's not my car mate. Yeah.

23:31

10 grand. And I was like, can we do any better than that? And he's like,

23:33

well, yeah, we could, you know, maybe if we, you

23:36

know, don't have, if don't have one of the jackets, then

23:38

it's only seven grand. I was like, no, no, that's not

23:40

doing any better. That's just not having one of the things.

23:42

We don't put your initials on it.

23:44

Yeah. No, not monogram. No extra. I

23:47

said, don't need extras. Don't need any of that. Any flash stuff.

23:49

Just a jacket, mate. Three bags of jacket.

23:51

I tell you what serious gear, mate.

23:54

But I'm not doing it. Obviously. I'm listening

23:56

to this shit himself now. Cause he's

23:58

after some, he's after some. bespoke

24:00

shirts.

24:01

Thing is Tommy, there's bespoke and there's

24:04

bespoke. Most people's bespoke is

24:06

actually are now I'm learning is made to

24:08

measure, it's not bespoke. So I've

24:10

got made to measure shirts which are absolutely

24:12

fine, wear them all the time they're fine but I've got a

24:14

couple of bespoke shirts and they

24:16

are they are completely different to wear

24:18

and they look completely different. It is

24:21

not a myth like Savile Row has not

24:23

survived and thrived all these years.

24:26

It's not made up,

24:29

it's the stuff genuinely fits better

24:31

and looks better. Do

24:33

you have to get someone to make your shoes as well?

24:38

I can just buy shoes that is handy.

24:41

I can just get shoes but I don't. I'll

24:44

have the platypuses please. Yeah

24:47

of the human skin leather but it is a

24:51

well cup coming up I might just refresh

24:53

the wardrobe a bit. 10 bags, three jackets,

24:55

not Mikey Richards. I'm alright but I

24:58

do need a new wardrobe now. Part

25:00

of that is because I still lift as well so I

25:02

still do a lot of chest and my chest is

25:06

quite big. It's pretty good. Chest

25:09

down, terror. Yeah

25:12

I've moved up a size I'm no

25:14

longer a size zero. Oh

25:17

Tommy,

25:19

middle aged bread boy. By

25:21

the way we got seven and a half minutes left at this pod.

25:28

Owen Farrell was amazing. No we

25:30

haven't finished yet. So

25:34

Jamie Roberts is due on the Wednesday went to

25:36

which is great. The phonics were great. It looked

25:38

amazing. Yeah really good. It was so

25:41

busy but

25:42

didn't have loads of time to go network because there

25:44

were so many people in the room but

25:45

it's great to see him. Tins

25:49

was on the mic very good very funny.

25:51

Mike Phillips is on there

25:53

strange and funny at the same time.

25:56

That can be. You can of

25:58

course you can. You've mastered it. I

26:02

think I think he's taken over me.

26:04

I

26:04

think he's taken over my mantle. Um

26:08

but it was wicked and and

26:10

based in an amazing job. Johnny Gould did an amazing job.

26:12

Um Thursday headed

26:15

up to Belfry. I had to get

26:17

to Tinses do Mike Tyndall's

26:19

golf day night before. So, had

26:22

a few beers in the evening there. Oops.

26:25

Yeah. Bit of food. Couple of beers.

26:27

It was just nice. Quite a lot of people turned up there.

26:29

Um

26:30

they play golf on the Friday.

26:33

Walked like 11 miles on Friday which

26:35

is quite a lot.

26:36

Carried my bag as well through that the whole day

26:39

and then headed off to Dublin in the evening.

26:41

Uh Friday evening from East Midlands.

26:43

Got Ryan Eyre. cross. And

26:46

then work the final on

26:48

Saturday which was great.

26:49

Um proper big presentation.

26:51

All

26:52

allowed to there myself. John

26:54

Barklin is weird trousers. Stephen Ferris.

26:57

Uh Rob Carney. Um

27:00

who else was there? Danny Pullman. Oh,

27:03

Danny. Danny. Danny. Danny.

27:07

And

27:08

um Wally

27:11

Wizard, David Wallace Ross

27:14

Harris hosted and

27:18

Ryle Nugent was the um co-com.

27:23

Uh first. Yeah.

27:26

So, busy. Busy day. Had a couple of beers

27:28

after which was great but

27:30

um I'm glad it's Tuesday

27:33

now. Yeah. Yeah.

27:36

Well, it's a busy week this week for me, Tommy but um

27:40

you've had a busy, you got a nice little day off today but tomorrow.

27:43

Yesterday running for me yesterday but that's fine.

27:45

Mm hmm. That's fine, Tommy. We're all we're

27:47

doing it. We've got stuff to do. That's nice. Yeah. So, anyway,

27:50

Owen Farrell.

27:51

He was fantastic. Um

27:55

he was fantastic. Uh thought he was

27:57

great. Thought Jackson Ray was brilliant in his last home

27:59

game. for Sarri's,

28:02

Macavu Napola was indecently

28:05

industrious, Sarri's looked great, I was really disappointed

28:07

with Saints actually, I loved watching them this season

28:10

as has everybody else, they

28:12

didn't do it in attack, they went a bit one-dimensional

28:14

in the first half, sort of trying to

28:16

brick wall it and it didn't work, Adam Powell,

28:19

the Sarri's defence coach is clearly on his game

28:21

because they defend him brilliantly, Marrow was excellent,

28:25

Itoji was absolutely excellent, so

28:29

that wasn't the best semi-final I've ever

28:31

seen because it felt like pretty much a quarter

28:33

of an hour and you knew who was going to win it and you weren't wrong, whereas

28:37

I went up to sail on Sunday,

28:40

way better game because it was closer,

28:44

really really good, Leicester had a few opportunities

28:46

they missed, sail

28:49

looked, George Ford was excellent,

28:51

Owen Farrell set the standard, he

28:53

was the best player of the weekend but it

28:56

tees up a nice final for those two going against

28:58

each other head to head but when

29:00

it really counted, sail produced the magic,

29:03

George Ford and sail produced the quality

29:05

to score when the pressure was on but

29:08

they've lost Ben Curry, he looked like

29:10

he did his hammy quite badly doing a jackal, I

29:13

don't know but

29:15

I looked at Topsy and we were both like hammy off

29:17

the bone, that looked horrible, on

29:19

crutches afterwards they've lost Dan

29:22

Dupriere as well, in

29:25

the back row he looks like he did his shoulder or arm,

29:27

he came off looking a lot of pain, so

29:31

they are dropping unfortunately, they've

29:34

got Cobus Visa the big fella, he's out as well

29:37

so they're missing some big bits of meat going into that

29:39

final but

29:42

Manu was good, Manu was really really good,

29:46

it

29:49

will be an excellent final but you

29:52

watch Sarri's at the moment, I said this last year and they

29:54

lost but you struggle to see anyone beating

29:56

them, they look brilliant

29:58

but very pleased for Al Saaner.

29:59

and to be in a final good

30:02

on him.

30:06

Yeah, it'll be a brilliant game. We've

30:08

got the European Cup

30:10

final obviously first. Yep.

30:13

I'm not sure if it's going

30:16

to be a repeat of last

30:18

year for Lentsler. Really not.

30:20

I think they're

30:22

going to win. I think there's a team that

30:25

can beat them. It

30:27

is Larry Shell the size with

30:29

the power and Lentsler and they've got a poor massive

30:31

game. They lost in the semis to months

30:34

to sixteen fifteen. Um doesn't sound like

30:36

a great game by the score line but but

30:38

it was by god

30:41

David.

30:42

It was epic. Yeah.

30:44

It was just like it was

30:47

so physical like neither team gave

30:51

an inch and it was just months

30:53

to plug in a way. Lents the defense. Lents are

30:55

on the break. The months to plug in a

30:57

way. Get them back into it. You know, the 33 minute

31:02

McCarthy scored and you're sort of

31:04

Joe McCarthy and you thought this is

31:06

it now. Lents are pulling away but they didn't and Jack Crowley

31:10

got a drop kick right

31:12

at the end under a massive amount of pressure. He

31:14

moved from ten to twelve because

31:16

Ben Healy came in at

31:19

ten and he was very good. Um and months to deserve

31:22

to win. They deserve to win. Lents

31:25

obviously picked not for

31:27

Larry. But they still had Conan.

31:31

Max Deegan was good. Um

31:34

Jimmy

31:36

O'Brien,

31:37

Kelleher but I was

31:40

so impressed with Munster and because because

31:42

it's all seeded in the

31:44

URC. So, whoever's the

31:47

top seed through to the final,

31:49

we'll get the home draw. Everyone thought

31:51

that's going to be Munster and it

31:54

was going to be Lents the Stormers

31:56

in the

32:00

the finals in Cape Town. In

32:08

about 12

32:11

days might be going across.

32:14

Not sure you're going to go. Storm was great. Man in

32:16

the box was was amazing.

32:18

Villains

32:20

was class. So many good players

32:22

in that team. At the wingers,

32:25

Zass and David's France, Matt

32:27

Herbert, Stephen Kits

32:30

off. Yeah, brilliant. They

32:33

look really good. And it's tough, tough for Conock

32:36

to go there. But

32:39

we all thought the stormers would be coming

32:41

to Ulster because

32:43

Ulster were second

32:46

league, but because Conock beat Ulster,

32:49

they had to go to the storm. So yeah, there's

32:51

a lot of two and thrown at the moment, but all

32:53

we know is the final is Stormers versus

32:56

Munster

32:58

in Cape Town. Fantastic.

33:01

Yep. Yep. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. I'll

33:03

come with you. Okay. Thomas 930. Yep.

33:08

That is it. Well done, everyone. Yep. I'm

33:11

leading Martin Wood for a coffee

33:13

this afternoon. Remember Woody? Nope. You

33:15

remember Woody. Yes, you do. Yeah, of course. It looks

33:17

like Eamonn Holmes. Yep.

33:19

I am with you. I'm with you. I rang him yesterday. Did you

33:21

get my message last week? Yeah, I got it. Why don't

33:23

you reply? Flats. I cannot

33:25

be asked, mate,

33:27

with texting and WhatsApp. I said, what about

33:29

calling or calling?

33:31

I just don't like it, mate. Just come and see

33:34

me or I come and see you. And that's

33:36

all we need in it. I was like, yep, 100% mate. Should

33:38

we cut this phone call off and I'll see you. Yeah. Cheers,

33:41

pal. That was it. I've been spoken to him for like a year. Hates

33:44

his phone. I'm the same. I take it doesn't

33:46

work in communications. No, no,

33:48

no.

33:49

I hate it. I can't keep

33:52

up with the comms. All right. Look, love

33:54

you, everyone. Bye. Well done, Tom.

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