Mark Zacharias, the Executive Director of Clean Energy Canada joined the podcast in early-October 2023 to talk about the role that Clean Energy Canada plays in informing public policy decision making. We discuss the areas of focus for the organization, the notion of “buy clean” for public infrastructure projects, their work on household affordability, how they engage stakeholders, and their view on the draft Clean Electricity Regulations. We also chat about what constitutes clean energy when it comes to electricity generation, and concerns about how the rise of populism and culture wars may impact the transition to a cleaner energy future. We close the discussion with Mark’s book recommendation.