This week, we are joined by Ricochet editor Tom Meyer! We hear about Terry's job and the inner-workings of an oil rig. We engage in general conversation about the country, the electorate, history, and the future. We do our very best to answer the question on everyone's minds: "Is it possible to have a podcast without talking about Trump?"

Well, it took us nearly an hour and a half to find out. Stick with us; you won't be disappointed.