Energy Minister Angus Taylor is talking about a 'gas-led recovery' which would not only make electricity prices higher, but would obviously make climate change worse, so in this episode we talk to director of the Australia Institute's Climate & Energy Program, Richie Merzian, about the other global crisis we're facing: climate change.
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Host: Ebony Bennett, deputy director of the Australia Institute // @ebony_bennett
Guests: Richie Merzian, Climate & Energy Program director at the Australia Institute // @RichieMerzian
Producer: Jennifer Macey, with help from Lucy Luo and Ethan Rix.
Theme music is by Jonathan McFeat from Pulse and Thrum.

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