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3:12

the opposite of that kind of thing, a

3:15

lose-lose is Harry Maguire's injury. It's a

3:17

big loss to Manchester United. It's a big loss to

3:19

England. That's the big news of the week, right? That's

3:21

the big news of the week. It looks like he

3:23

might not even make the FA Cup Final, which would

3:25

be a great shame for old Harry. If

3:28

he's fit in time for England's first

3:30

warm-up game against Bosnia-Herzegovina on the 3rd

3:32

of June, he wouldn't have played any

3:35

competitive football in over a

3:37

month. Does this concern you?

3:41

Yeah, I think so. I think he's currently

3:43

listed as being back on

3:45

the 3rd of June. That's like the next

3:47

available game he's likely to play. Yeah,

3:51

it's a problem because despite the shortcomings that

3:53

people perceive him to have, and you know,

3:55

that I've shared in the past as well,

3:59

he's important to England. He's reliable for England. He hasn't

4:01

missed an England game for a very very long time

4:03

that I can think of certainly not through injury and

4:06

So it's a concern chiefly because it's

4:09

not immediately obvious Who

4:11

would come in to replace him now? I

4:13

know that for example Mark

4:16

gay is played center back When

4:19

stones was unavailable, but he's always played alongside Maguire

4:21

Yeah, and I think it's fair to say it's

4:23

a completely different dynamic If you swap him out

4:26

swap him in a given that gays also been

4:28

injured himself as well It does

4:30

become a little bit of a Bit

4:32

of a problem. What do you think? Well, yeah, I think

4:34

you're right I think gay I mean gays came on as

4:36

a sub against Manchester United when palace were already for nil

4:38

up or something in The favor you're

4:40

on the first up as a sub the week before as

4:43

well. I think against Fulham. Maybe not no He's

4:45

played a very little football is the point For

4:48

a while now in the primarily due to that horrible injury

4:52

Palace, you know, it was only a couple of

4:54

games left of the season We

4:56

even play in those games is the question and if

4:58

he did would it be up to speed so Suddenly

5:03

it's looking like pretty thin

5:05

pickings this Lens

5:07

much more weight to the opinion that we were

5:09

given last week that Eric Dyer should be in

5:11

the squad And he's said a

5:14

number of times that Dyer's been finds best defensive player

5:16

since he's joined there He does say that that does

5:18

show you how chaotic they've been at the back. Yeah,

5:20

all Eric But he's also got an injury. I think

5:22

as well at the moment. Yeah, well, he's not a

5:25

big one though It's not a big one But but

5:27

it but presuming Dyer is is is fit and he's

5:29

fine and gets over this injury pretty quickly Dyer

5:32

does know the team he knows the the squad he's

5:34

played under Southgate a number of times So I think

5:36

he would have who'd be the safe option, but he's

5:38

not been in recent squads But it's great news for

5:40

him. It is great. Yeah being too unkind It's

5:43

unthinkable that if Harry Maguire doesn't make the

5:45

England squad for the euros Dyer isn't picked

5:47

exactly. So the natural Successor

5:50

to Maguire says he saved under Southgate

5:52

natural or the preferred one was gay

5:54

But he's not been playing as we've

5:56

just said you suddenly think we're

5:58

blimey now in the I would have said

6:00

well Joe Gohme is even though obviously after that little

6:03

tetta tetta he had with Raheem Sterling Seemed to

6:05

be kind of locked out in

6:07

England squad for a bit He's been back in there

6:09

since but he's playing as a fullback largely for Liverpool

6:11

I think he's still a quality center off But Southgate

6:13

has played him at full back as well when he

6:15

had the chance to play at center half Lewis

6:18

Dunk is another one who has played

6:20

under Southgate and I think He's

6:23

a squad player at best. I don't think Lewis

6:25

Dunk's the answer No, and and the other one

6:27

is is is every cons app who has played

6:29

a bit. Yeah Late,

6:32

so I think Southgate

6:34

I think cons is I think he should go

6:37

But suddenly if you thought right England starting center

6:39

halves are gonna be stones and cons or it

6:42

would be okay I don't think that's terrible. I

6:44

think I think but it's untested.

6:46

It's done. It's untested and suddenly you think oh,

6:48

yeah I think I probably would be more comfortable

6:50

with dye I hope McGuire's there and I still

6:52

think McGuire is I also think

6:55

Dyer front kind of fits The profile

6:57

of a McGuire type player more than the

6:59

others do and I don't think I think

7:01

Dyer is better With the ball

7:03

its feet Dyer's more comfortable in midfield than McGuire would

7:05

ever be as well So I think

7:07

he I actually think he's got more to his game

7:09

than McGuire's got But I think those

7:11

other players you're listening with the possible probably

7:13

even dunk as well They're not the same type

7:16

of defender and it's important to point out as

7:18

well that when Mark gay

7:20

as deputized for England at center back.

7:23

It's been with McGuire. Yeah, it's not been

7:25

with stones Yeah, and stones offer something very

7:27

very different to what McGuire offers. So I

7:29

do think the balance is is an issue

7:31

there And so all in

7:33

all it's not ideal Is it because

7:35

although it's not the most important player

7:37

to be injured? He'd probably

7:40

be quite near the top of this if you if you

7:42

were doing 26 players talking best was over most important That's

7:44

what I'm saying. Yeah, you're doing 26 players

7:46

for a squad And in order of

7:48

what you don't want to get into your power rankings. Yeah,

7:50

McGuire would be quite near the top I think he would

7:53

be yeah, I've given off slag them off for a love

7:55

to you Yeah, but I mean that's you know, that's

7:57

the way it is again. The only other names tomorrow

8:00

but Southgate hasn't shown that much preference.

8:03

Well he had a bit of a stinker when he played, didn't

8:05

he? Yeah, but I mean... He had a bit of a stinker

8:07

for Milan as well, didn't he? Yeah. In

8:09

the game, it was... It gets an English team in Europe

8:11

and they... Well Chelsea, I was right. You got back a

8:13

little bit there, but fine. I mean, that does count, kind

8:15

of stuff. Jared Brantfordt would be another... I mean, again, he

8:17

took it very untested. So... This

8:20

is how legends are forged. This is how it happens.

8:22

You know, when Maguire first came into the England team,

8:25

he came in ahead of what was a tournament, wasn't

8:27

it? He came in ahead of. Hadn't really done much.

8:29

He played an awful lot. For Star Wars on the

8:31

rise, of course, but he's never

8:33

looked back. Get Brantfordt in there. Everyone

8:36

else has looked back, but he hasn't looked back much.

8:38

Do I look back? I can't remember. Don't

8:41

answer that. Okay, well, you know... That's the big news.

8:43

Let's concern there. So hopefully Maguire will be fit

8:46

and flying for the

8:49

tournament. Now, I

8:51

think one of the big talking... In fact,

8:53

I think it's the biggest talking point of

8:55

this England team is the midfield. It

8:58

seems to be a

9:01

bit of a conundrum, you could say,

9:03

due to England's lack or

9:05

certainly perceived lack of midfielders who

9:07

are comfortable doing some defensive work,

9:10

or naturally that's where they go.

9:13

You know, Southgate has been criticized

9:15

and accused of being too conservative

9:18

generally, but I think

9:20

specifically where the midfielders concern, that's where

9:22

it comes from. Jude Bellingham is obviously

9:24

a huge part of this England team and is playing in

9:26

that advance role, number 10 role, as many

9:28

people would call it. He's been playing further up

9:30

the pitch for Real Madrid. Declan Rice

9:32

is going to be at the base of that midfield, and

9:35

that's where he prefers to be. I

9:37

know Arsenal, he's been used as a more

9:39

kind of box-to-box player, a number eight, as

9:41

people say nowadays, but he himself

9:43

says he prefers to be at the base, and that's where he plays with

9:47

England. Now, back in

9:49

November, we saw Rice and

9:51

Phillips playing as

9:53

they did in the Euros in the central midfield together.

9:55

That was sometimes a three-four-three,

9:58

But it was those two behind Bellingham. The pretty

10:00

certain against Scotland. That's how they lined up as well.

10:02

We'll we'll Phillips and his home. His been terrible as

10:04

we know and it now looks like he'd been injured

10:07

for the rest of the season. so if there was

10:09

a me tiny teensy flicker fight with that I think

10:11

that was a village. He's now very much gone. So.

10:14

If. We are going to assume itself guy

10:16

is gonna play with rice and another at

10:18

the base of midfield. We saw him against

10:20

Brazil he tried comic gallagher their against Belgium

10:22

can be main came to the tape it

10:24

does seem lot that's what it's worth going

10:26

to be. An. Who do

10:28

you think the best replacement would be in that

10:31

specific system? It may not be the system that

10:33

you would like. You've made want to see Foden

10:35

in there with belly when he said that before,

10:37

but if we assuming that he's gonna have another

10:39

hold up with rice in the who'd you think

10:41

is the best places that job so it's a

10:43

really difficult question to answer. And

10:46

I think I will go around the

10:48

house is trying to answer it the

10:50

you have to bear with me so

10:52

I would look at the most. Recently

10:54

relevant competitive games and for England have

10:56

to do that you do as to

10:58

go back about later after go back

11:01

to fall for being the game against

11:03

Italy. In. Qualifying. yeah when I

11:05

b m three one at Wembley thrive and

11:07

I news is that game is Rice and

11:09

Phillips it was when Phillips was wasn't of

11:11

why a busted flush get back in October

11:13

be haven't moved to West Ham by the

11:15

yes I was still around today god levels

11:18

use name is renee thing wrong yeah he

11:20

wasn't be impact as a he played he

11:22

got subs often that games are for people

11:24

who would have remember interest enough. mom gave

11:26

him on that game they did. If I'm.

11:29

But. Adding loves you on the guy and then if

11:31

you go back a bit further in the play France

11:33

a date they lost out to one in the woke

11:35

up as we all know at that put anger was

11:37

still pie for three three to a plane with betting

11:39

on the left of the three, rice in the middle.

11:42

And. That and Henderson Event Henderson on the right,

11:44

right? So. To. Me:

11:47

Like Deck. The rice has evolved

11:49

quite a laws apply since then, and he

11:51

plays really nominally on the left of a

11:53

three frost know, but as you say, east

11:55

by the six of the night. Yeah, Easy

11:57

does everything they have. Any can do everything.

12:00

And so I sometimes, why am I found on

12:02

this? Well I sometimes wonder if it's a bit

12:04

of a red herring when people talk about England

12:06

at the moment playing two Hold Me Field players

12:08

and that being two Conservative because Rice isn't actually

12:10

that Conservative. He can play a role like that

12:12

and I think he's one of those players who's

12:14

so good, genuinely so good that if England were

12:16

playing someone good in the Euros in the knockout

12:19

game and Southgate said to him, you

12:21

just need to sit for a bit, he would do it.

12:23

But he also offers a lot more going forward and before

12:25

he signed for Arsenal a lot of the chat I heard

12:27

was that he can do an awful lot more than he's

12:29

doing and he's got a high ceiling and

12:32

he can improve which he has done. So

12:34

that's all the background to what I'm about to say which is

12:36

that what that means is unless

12:39

England flip their formation, which I don't think they

12:41

will they need someone

12:43

who can perform the role of

12:46

Calvin Phillips about three years ago. And

12:49

there's no real obvious candidate

12:51

to do that. I

12:53

think my personal view is

12:55

that Coby Main is being promoted very, very

12:57

quickly. I think it's easy to

12:59

stand out as a calm head on

13:02

shoulders at Man United at the moment. As I

13:04

mentioned on the show yesterday, you guys didn't necessarily

13:06

agree but that's fair enough. It's

13:08

a lot to ask of him

13:10

although he has looked pretty good when he's been

13:12

given his debut for England. I currently concede that. There's

13:16

been talk of like, because we're in the

13:18

week we're in and they've just beaten Main out of 4-0, there's

13:20

been talk of Adam Waughton. He's playing

13:22

the Championship four months ago. It's a very,

13:24

very early thing to be talking about. But

13:28

that's how good he is though. He is good. We

13:30

don't know how good he's going to be. We don't know that yet. And

13:32

I think it's fine to be okay about that. He's

13:34

fine to just calm down about that. I

13:37

wonder whether there's a

13:39

temptation for Southgate to

13:43

revert to type and be

13:45

unable to resist to play Henderson in there.

13:49

And I will be disappointed with that.

13:51

Here are some other names who have tried

13:53

to play in that. I say

13:55

some other names, one other name. I think it's me.

13:57

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So,

13:59

that's it. Because we have mentioned a

14:03

copy menu and briefly mentioned Conor

14:05

Gallagher. It's not Gallagher's game though.

14:07

No, exactly. So I think, yeah.

14:11

And I'm sure he won't mind me quoting

14:14

him even though it was a private conversation, but I

14:16

know Henry Winters is a big fan of Trent Alexander-Arnold

14:18

playing in that role. Henry

14:20

Winters out of a job. It's

14:23

not the part of making it. Right. It's a man

14:25

who loves his country. God

14:28

bless him for that. And he's seen him play a lot. I

14:30

don't think it's ridiculous to ask Trent Alexander-Arnold

14:32

to sit in there. It would mean... I

14:34

think it's just too exposed and

14:36

you limit what Rice can do. But

14:39

Rice, I mean, yeah, Rice does like playing

14:41

that role. I know what you mean. You

14:43

want a Georgina type in there or a

14:45

Thomas party. So Rice can go on. England

14:47

don't have that game. I think

14:49

the issue is definitely worth talking about,

14:51

of course, because this is the biggest

14:54

problem of many problems

14:56

that Southgate actually has going into this summer.

14:58

And I think it's not actually been talked

15:00

about that much. How

15:02

many problems he's got to solve

15:04

around selection. The turnover of

15:07

form in players for England across

15:09

this season has actually been quite

15:12

stark. And it's not just

15:14

form, by the way, it's also injuries. Now, I

15:16

suspect that we put to one side the injury

15:18

thing because we assume that every big European nation

15:20

can have this problem. And it's a kick on

15:23

from when the World Cup was during the season

15:25

in Qatar. And the amount of players

15:27

we're seeing missing for injuries is crazy. Now, we've talked

15:29

about that till the cows come home. But if you

15:31

put in the combination of injury issues and

15:34

turnover reform at England, I

15:36

would argue that this is the toughest

15:39

squad naming he's had to

15:41

do. Interesting. Because look

15:43

at the squad at the moment in the most recent game, right? Madison's

15:47

in there. He ain't going to go. Madison

15:49

can't be picked. He's been

15:51

dreadful since he come back from injuries.

15:53

He's contributed absolutely nothing for months. Grealish.

15:58

Nowhere. Phillips. Nowhere.

16:00

I disagree with you on Grealish. But he

16:02

is, relatively speaking Marcus, from where he

16:04

was at the last tournament, he's nowhere.

16:07

But I take your point that there are

16:09

question marks. He's got loads of questions to

16:11

answer, Sarkay. But I think

16:13

this one is the most difficult. Sure,

16:17

injured, cheer will injured, there's so many. You're

16:19

right to point this out. Now

16:22

Maguire. But England still do have a good squad,

16:24

and a squad that can challenge for this trophy.

16:27

Maybe he pushes stones in there then. I don't

16:29

think he's going to do that. I think that,

16:31

I think, Coby Maynew is an excellent option to

16:33

have in there. And I think against Brazil, sorry,

16:36

Belgium. Well even Brazil when he came up, I

16:38

think against Belgium you saw that. And I think

16:40

with the stability that Rice gives, Maynew

16:42

won't believe his luck. Let me give

16:44

you another... And that's actually... Well he

16:47

won't believe his luck because he'll think to himself, hang

16:49

on a minute, I've got actual teammates

16:51

and a strategy of people who enjoy playing. And

16:53

this is also how legends are forged. You take

16:55

chances on young players and they don't look back.

16:57

That's how it goes, circumstances. That's what football's all

16:59

about sometimes. Let me give you another solution though,

17:01

very quickly before you move on. I

17:05

was pilloried for this, and I

17:07

understand why. You get pilloried a lot through

17:09

that. Yeah, that's all part of being me. And

17:11

that's just our own. What

17:14

about this? People don't

17:16

want to do this because they think it shackles in.

17:19

But you could move Bellingham back there. And

17:21

it frees you up to have another option in the

17:23

forward three-up. You do. Well I think

17:25

that the other... Bellingham could control games

17:27

at the top level by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think

17:29

the other way of playing it is you play Rice in that

17:31

sort of pivot role and then you have to number 8. But

17:35

he's not going to do that, is he? He had

17:37

to, he didn't catar. But

17:40

the way I see Southgate's kind of evolution...

17:42

So him and Holland, their evolution

17:44

of their tactics, they seem to just go in

17:46

one direction. Yes, but that doesn't

17:49

mean to say that it's a given that they won't. I take

17:51

the point, which is why when we frame this I said it's

17:53

likely so who do you think is going to slot in there?

17:56

Oh, if you play Rice as a lone pivot... and

18:00

play Foden and Bellingham in front of him, I'll be

18:02

all over that. I just don't think he'll do it.

18:04

Well, okay. I mean,

18:06

it is a huge conundrum, as I say,

18:08

that Southgate needs to answer. I suspect that

18:10

he will go for Mayneu and I hope

18:13

he does because I think Mayneu is a

18:15

lovely player who gives England something different, even

18:17

though he has the grand total of the

18:19

minutes that Mayneu's play for England is quite

18:21

low. You can say the same about Mayneu's team.

18:24

I just think you're going back to the Trent-Exar-Arthi, I mean, how many

18:26

games have he played in the middle of midfield for Liverpool this season?

18:29

Well, Alexander-Ronald is a different thing, but I

18:31

think he could play there, though. But

18:33

here's what I'm trying to get at. We go for

18:35

all these different options and the listeners can hear us

18:38

just spitboarding all these different options. If

18:40

we accept that none of them

18:42

is perfect, then we have to go for the most

18:44

likely to give us success. Which is Mayneu. I

18:46

think Mayneu is... I think it's Bellingham. Well, that's,

18:48

yeah, okay. So you reshape the midfield, which I don't

18:51

think is a stupid point,

18:53

but in terms of those, as you say, those power

18:55

rankings of England players, the most important player for England

18:57

at the moment is Declan Rice. Because

19:00

if he's injured or something happens to him,

19:02

who else are you going to put in

19:04

there? Some would have Harry Kane, understandably, but

19:06

at least Ivan Toney or Ollie Watkins are

19:08

forwards, which is why when England have made

19:10

favourites, I think to myself, I think France

19:12

have got more balance in there. And I

19:14

think, you know,

19:16

you can argue Portugal do, I mean, for crying out

19:19

loud, you know, I mean, if England

19:21

came up against Spain and we're talking about the

19:23

midfield, you know, Rodry pulling the strings, you know,

19:25

I really don't like the sound of that. So

19:28

anyway, it is something that Southgate

19:30

and Holland will need to solve

19:32

and they'll need a plan to come up with. And that, honestly,

19:35

I think could make or break England's tournament. Now,

19:38

before we move on to the second half, we

19:40

did discuss this idea that England are favourites for

19:42

the Euros. Well, Jose Mourinho has

19:45

named France Portugal and England as his three favourites,

19:47

but he said he can't really look past Portugal.

19:49

They said England are just missing that little bit,

19:51

which is kind of what we've been discussing there.

19:54

He can't look past Portugal because he's a Portuguese and

19:56

B wants to manage Portugal at some point. Well, he

19:58

nearly managed England at one point. I

20:01

heard that back in the day remember this

20:03

though, but when I remember it was 2007

20:06

Yeah, I do remember it Marcus But the reason I dismissed

20:08

it at the time is because it was the FA just

20:10

going well He's really good. We'll just link ourselves with him.

20:12

Yeah, you can't blame the FA for that look, can

20:14

you? Yeah, they went after marina after being Bruised

20:17

by Steve McLaren's experience or

20:20

who's the opposite to Steve McLaren? Yeah Oh, this

20:22

guy actually does speak different languages But

20:25

presumably when it comes to Portugal being favorites

20:27

and your laws He's a split anyway because

20:29

of big Paulina drow this thing

20:31

I don't think my losses will be split but you'd like

20:33

to see him do well I mean if he said to

20:35

me Would you like to see us be

20:37

England and then said I'll slide Tafu if you say no Then

20:40

I might have to kind of whimper out of that one or

20:42

if he just just about does enough at

20:44

the tournament Just just to get him over the lines of that

20:46

move to bar munich I

20:51

mean, I just felt like this is the same way that you

20:53

know You know Spurs and

20:55

Newcastle before that back in the day just used

20:57

to throw brief the press Throw their names into

20:59

the hat to be linked with some player. They're

21:01

never gonna get that's to make make their fans

21:03

happy They're trying. Yeah, it's exactly like that of

21:05

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explanatory. this week's tight markers want to get

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24:33

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24:35

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24:37

week or with now stop Coal

24:39

Palmer. Over Buckeye Osaka I stories

24:41

that you can ignore Palmer's form and quality

24:43

any longer or how to Moscow to few

24:45

months ago but now you are the best

24:47

players in the Premier League. Player on the

24:49

right but have followed him him. One.

24:52

On the right one central than have rice

24:54

is a low number six and Bellingham have

24:56

found in his ice strokes tens and cold.

24:58

On the right. By. Peers

25:00

of the game assault morass he goes to

25:02

allow fucking data bases boring on again. I'd

25:05

is is once I went away so I

25:07

had it in. was caught a few months

25:09

ago you know a new module mack illness

25:11

and probably never will be A Anyway, the

25:13

salient point is this probably most who wants

25:16

to start Coal Palmer either because sucker overseeing

25:18

Lebanon of. Straight. Away yet. To.

25:20

Suck has been brilliance of the mating season

25:22

back to back England player to if yes

25:25

i spent a while sell a play to

25:27

hold without night so smiley that myself oily

25:29

was play the left wing bucket when the

25:31

lot lower guy spend with do it. Do.

25:34

It the Senate is Paul the we Would

25:36

you agree fly think is a limit to

25:38

how I think it falls into lemon and

25:40

have against two weeks running chiefly because of

25:42

the justification to use yes I have a

25:45

are just said. I.

25:47

Think called Palmer to stop for England and

25:49

some particular enterprising young the said. Are

25:51

you planning on front? That settles lot your was I

25:53

to me or say. Not. My problem, work

25:56

it out of the measure is not as bad as

25:58

I suppose about it is good because some. The

26:00

might say play him that may be on

26:02

the left side of of the front three

26:04

than Foden in the midfield Of the have

26:07

a midfield like like the you like the

26:09

ceiling and I gotta say i that guy

26:11

you'd you'd for this guy to stop basically

26:13

but not banned because Sasha what Michael already

26:16

started on the first names on this on

26:18

the saw exactly of what is doing it

26:20

is undermining himself white by making a stupid

26:22

suggestions around to great place this and and

26:25

and sometimes as we know. An.

26:27

International. Football can be littered. With.

26:30

Players who were brilliant bunch is not bad the

26:32

plaza head of them nice and other the size

26:34

that's the case of he's not a eats heat

26:36

way has to do given said because record England's

26:38

given the season Arsenal have a circus contribution to

26:40

as well. He nice to give south

26:42

got a really big reason to pick him and he has

26:44

to be accepting of that is the same way that. Andy.

26:47

Cole was thirteen, Capturing the no More and

26:49

school what one Goals hundred, maybe a few

26:51

more. Robbie Fowler hottie I framed in your

26:53

Les Ferdinand how the pie filling his. For

26:55

so unhealthy Cyprus if for people too young

26:58

to remember this throughout the nine policy I

27:00

hardly boyfriend know so much as we as

27:02

to understand that that they were brilliant Premier

27:04

league players but England had amazing of applies

27:06

as well. I'm a muslim was it was

27:08

on on on the same and loose or

27:11

so I think it's I think pausing Palmer

27:13

does realistically probably have to go to the

27:15

tournament to the twenty six proposing is stars.

27:17

Yeah I saw the I think Palmer is

27:19

one of those players who will benefit from

27:21

the a extended squats or was other people

27:24

would have him in there even if was

27:26

just twenty three. but at because you have

27:28

to understand touch the second ago other attack

27:30

implies you've been a part of it. Are

27:33

by no means that whole shoo

27:35

ins for the squad and always

27:37

say Gradation Rochefort? Yep Gallagher. Who

27:41

else saw in is not a shoe and bother a

27:43

lot of people as as as ice a lot people

27:45

would say now he's got to have fun but it

27:47

was to my absolute now on Schumann's as you said

27:49

ordinance been there as well. Yeah. I

27:52

mean, think about it. Raheem Sterling is nowhere near be

27:54

was Abbas because he is. I'm rather fond of what

27:56

he did. Rings I was was was undeniable. So yes,

27:58

a disease in my own pottery. Much. They probably

28:00

do or twice example I would have thought so

28:02

but you know it's it's it's ruthless. This the

28:04

really really is you've you've you've gotta would let

28:06

them suffer so we can arose eleven and a

28:08

half Coyote Fabio Capello, Michaela I wanted to for

28:10

going to get flair of the ass. Some publishers

28:13

you're not literally would definitely do that as a

28:15

grand finale of or have a nice house for

28:17

the from his I realize this was all about

28:19

on normal I who's else I was thinking or

28:21

seventy nine hours think him and I we ever

28:23

going to get one and I just have so

28:25

many people do punish wealth of the some fucking

28:27

fit I just over this machine or are we

28:29

cherry picking. The yes yes I really I

28:31

nod or teammates or not or everybody's now

28:34

time for some listen to questions. Remember you

28:36

can send us England questions at any time,

28:38

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28:43

with don't come to my house or sorry

28:45

at the moment he said any time yeah

28:47

we any time it's open the the the

28:49

towels or of employees and everybody lucky the

28:52

authors one about it the first one how

28:54

good October Ah. He says to

28:56

me during the first while others may I may

28:58

sorcerer if one at some clock sorties home for

29:00

the confusion making a salad. Neither of us want

29:02

to raise your questions that I know it's always

29:04

nice to have a Marcus in their act, but

29:06

as rush for dumb enough to get on the

29:08

plane know he hasn't. right? I think

29:10

he could be one of those ones where

29:13

some people might be quite shocked that he

29:15

doesn't go to South Gate shows loyalty supplies.

29:17

Elvis the Rush would has been. In.

29:20

All the south Sky sports bar mean I used to

29:22

be he be. The. Hard to him

29:24

he beat the outhouse to find a school

29:26

where he hasn't voted Ned up at with

29:28

injuries to ease ease. Awesome played not started

29:30

sat much as we started as the old

29:32

game it's ornaments from the south game cove

29:34

against Wales and he started in in in

29:36

the last world cup but I just don't

29:38

think he has been enough I attended is

29:40

a question of of it is not been

29:42

scoring else because he producing some are moments

29:44

the sees as your seven family goes se

29:46

but the a not been scores of but

29:48

it's it's the this is something not right

29:50

there with with Russia as a and I

29:52

thought you know. One. Is often concern

29:54

for sell a human being when you when you

29:56

see them like that. but his his son is

29:58

esa, his energy, his his his qualities of just

30:01

not been there in the way that they have

30:03

them before. It's not like he's been put in

30:05

an effort and even do any doggies in what

30:07

cause? I'm just not quite happening on the pitch

30:10

and he went to England. Maybe that can unlock

30:12

a member that lovely. Always thought against Italy in

30:14

the aforementioned and qualify so do I. Well but

30:16

today in yeah exactly exactly I I I'm afraid

30:19

I don't see the and I think the England.

30:21

Can't. Really? Afford

30:24

to to to bring apply we think will we

30:27

hope he gets up to speed we hope the

30:29

he shakes off whatever is going on so I

30:31

agree I think you look at the did the

30:33

plethora of talent. the England have a nice for

30:35

positions. I. Mean yeah but I'm not that

30:37

long ago we would buy a new in i but with

30:39

a rush for to fight him applause the last. I mean

30:41

look at the season phones As much as one example was

30:44

that the more relevant thing is. Would

30:47

he would he have you? Will? Would he have photo

30:49

molester? Would it would be more. You're not of the

30:51

i think you will be on the left and then

30:53

who's who's the sub of the back out there is

30:56

a Golden as agree with it. can't be rushed for

30:58

yeah exactly. And I think of the the season Golden's

31:00

had an even go get it. Pretty decent accounts and

31:02

spectacular. I think in

31:04

those lenses. Are. Thing is a must

31:06

perform yeah much prefer earth. You look at the

31:08

stuff that Russia has done. The seasons from a

31:10

bit positive about around the turn of the year

31:13

at a decent reform school. A he goes am

31:15

an he but moments in him the exactly does

31:17

is I was in cyber. The problem is. That.

31:21

Not really the issue because everyone knows the qualities

31:23

got. yeah so everyone knows he's a good finisher.

31:25

he if one knows he can he can be

31:27

a man is to try to blaze extra a

31:29

bull wealth but is always gonna have that new.

31:31

The problem is the rest of his around game

31:34

is is suffering here for reasons but maybe I

31:36

fully understand it may just be that because my

31:38

in onto their it all over the place but

31:40

it may be some person things as well if

31:42

fails to me which is a damning indictment either

31:44

sub and is hop last just physically me to

31:46

move a fresh start and as a result I

31:48

think he certainly not going to be. Am.

31:51

The first player to have a bad season the

31:53

miss out on a tournament process was gonna happen.

31:55

About the wow that's a good we the last

31:57

did are other is in our guys at this

31:59

from the real. The life his eyes. There's

32:01

normally one wild card in the squad who

32:03

would you like to see given. A.

32:05

Chance and that lobby was been saying

32:07

this, particularly since I'm we've got twenty

32:10

six. Applies. Going to the years

32:12

as everybody else yeah be seen on fair we

32:14

had more than than other six. Call Palmer was

32:16

a name that a lot of people been sent

32:18

Us feel like. I used to

32:20

the of you could argue that he'd be

32:22

a while. Caucuses have very few minutes twice for

32:24

you and your very few minutes. International episodes

32:26

of that could be an argument other wanna take.

32:28

A. Potential. Answer away from you that basu

32:31

lot lot of people of insight into movies and

32:33

obvious hear that you're not is what I would

32:35

probably say. My. Particular. Choice.

32:38

For. Wall Cars would be one of two plays

32:40

and they would be as the Gordon We one

32:42

of them are he counts because he hopes he

32:44

played a bit into an. Average.

32:47

She has a I was going to be miles he's

32:49

by twice for England and Scotland her back in start

32:51

the season If. He's been good

32:53

to season in a mirror off the back of

32:55

them. Smash him a lot in the that very difficult

32:58

to deal with. I just think he's the kind

33:00

of player that lends itself to a while cause

33:02

election he a very tricky is very unpredictable. was very

33:04

positive. I think you've always going to pick. Or.

33:06

Those pies. We talk about that Palmer Goldman as I.

33:09

That. What I've heard about to see implies

33:11

a mod. A modern football is positivity. the

33:13

price you just go forward and release from

33:15

make something happen you think applies lie com

33:17

at a bigger this Jeremy Dockers a good

33:19

example for yeah I'm cases really good example

33:22

of it for three years always your try

33:24

do something to and and was better that

33:26

I was just of that to that they

33:28

would just be hanging out in the top

33:30

slot see and only really comes alive when

33:32

they received a football so systemic now socialists

33:34

or and and I think that allowed. That's

33:36

probably the biggest criticism of Go Agree this

33:38

is I understand is playing. With a massive

33:40

system which isn't the most successful team. we've

33:42

seen him in domestic football and he was

33:44

a starter when them on the trouble so he's

33:46

obviously adapted to that. Yeah, but now I know

33:49

maybe I'm colored by the army when I

33:51

play. When I was younger I was never

33:53

a Pc. Wildflowers, you whole nice but what

33:55

the I imagine every manage our pride we have

33:57

used to say to wipe law applies. Anymore.

34:00

Come Back is not imply square as an easy fucking

34:02

where he is predictable. I'll give you the As and

34:04

the under. His book really seems to all the time

34:06

recycles the ball a lot I understand who most yeah

34:08

but again in that that doesn't do that as a

34:11

wants to make things happen with the yet on our

34:13

outlook. I agree with you that was going to be

34:15

miles or thing as a hugely exciting place and he's

34:17

a top apply again if England a down. He

34:20

says he brain him on. That is the Walcott of

34:22

which was not played that much for England. He.

34:24

Plays for. A bottom half

34:26

of the table premier league side even opposed

34:28

to finishing strongly for than factually not a

34:30

top hall I might they they still technically

34:33

have finished and it be unlikely to use

34:35

out of order by you as it is

34:37

or palace bad as this Us or but

34:39

but again you think of the the dynamism

34:41

he has, the pace, the and excitement, the

34:43

skills that the ability to shoot from range

34:45

and school great goals and also he is

34:47

adaptable. He can play in midfield three or

34:49

he can play out waddle more. the wings

34:52

icing on the side. I think you should

34:54

start for England and so on but. That

34:56

the question was about Walcott are answer is

34:58

as alley is a squad was nice and

35:00

as I was in that are little small

35:03

for myself am Rothys singularly garcia is not

35:05

a supposition interview supply of across devices of

35:07

course dinner or that's the reason why not.

35:09

Yeah out of horses and then they'd Henderson

35:12

well out of other Molson got called up

35:14

to the on the twenty one's because minute

35:16

got grub yeah I promoted to the first

35:18

one. He. Does so by adjusting for Adam oldest.

35:20

It's a bit of a save him because. We've.

35:23

Talked about him now and he still had those friendlies

35:25

against Brazil, a Belgian of leaves month or two ago

35:27

when of a couple months ago. He. May

35:29

wanna get a chance they the arms of

35:31

he's been advised at the risk of me

35:33

sound a bit too dismissive. Arthritis and I

35:35

are on on the show. Yes they are.

35:37

I personally believe in what item one place

35:40

just my opinion he will host a very

35:42

very top of. He's absolutely brilliant. Everything. Is.

35:45

Absolutely perfect for that role that

35:47

he plays. I. Just think

35:49

the. It's. About time it were in May

35:51

yet like a starting to come into the conversation. I'm sure

35:53

he's played a lot of games the right the past may

35:55

done well. Got the match recently to life's he's made the

35:58

move a genuine I think you go to the top. Are.

36:00

You think is one tournament too early for

36:02

this is our lessons of my is how

36:04

legends a forge towards for the question mark

36:07

is where you got that this is from

36:09

Go light him. To. To hear from

36:11

him is always which English plaid you feel.

36:13

Should have gotten many more caps. Than.

36:16

They did in that time Mccarrick a new

36:18

them as I say. Bless. The only

36:20

answer is yes. And. I I don't think

36:22

that be be great player. He.

36:24

Was a really really talented player. Yeah, Yeah,

36:27

Steve. Bruce. Got

36:29

one for see? Have Verna go watch. Rosie

36:32

should have got more than zero. The fucking

36:34

brilliant. I'd even go for it or the

36:36

reason for ever my United. yeah I did

36:38

it in there when they really became Reagan

36:40

did plays really guys but then the the

36:42

he should have got his place is a

36:45

flight the any other one. I was gonna

36:47

say the spirit of you're going to muzzle

36:49

Caricom's carried still what are they get Thirty

36:51

four cats, something like that. What you should

36:53

have been he should have been carried the

36:55

all one or two others because actually England.

36:58

Either. Even if you have to take the this

37:00

of the bases. And. Splits defensive

37:02

midfielder in the he bought for the

37:04

played in that basically you need is

37:06

someone who had a. Glancing

37:08

interest at least in the defensive side

37:10

of things. so I I agree Carrick

37:13

probably should have had more in arms.

37:15

Messiah: who's got forty yards or maybe

37:17

forty two England caps? Is

37:19

Owen Hargreaves nothing concrete Made his debut off three

37:21

won the Champions League. There are on the other

37:24

times it has scored before that use your device

37:26

that we the chap easy to get lads by

37:28

our i am a nontraditional Korea were on the

37:30

houses at an that sir is call. It was

37:33

such a truncated England career. Because of that bear

37:35

the scars and that the end. It was hectic.

37:37

terrible ins injuries with Burrow because he retired pretty

37:39

early. a bad knee injuries can get past the

37:42

I he was. He was a kind of plat

37:44

that's on the England. Fans.

37:46

And the general public at large didn't really respect he's

37:48

a lot of shit yarn how you my life ring.

37:50

Nibali was a bit of utility man able to know

37:53

why did he played so fullback sometimes a that I

37:55

think that seventy six months the United in the final.

37:58

As he played brought mids you know seems very. The market

38:00

it was insane be able he had he was what

38:02

people say what does he bring him and he was

38:04

lit ravenous. I swore I won the Champions league with

38:06

balmy i haven't to keep the ball was a to

38:08

I think and will come to and six spicy that

38:10

gaming and sports for woman all went to penalties and

38:12

he was the only ones scores pedals if my memory

38:14

serves me correctly. Think. People realize the valley that

38:17

April that by two thousand and six. He.

38:19

Would only be that simply as few years

38:21

later. With the injury start

38:23

to catch up with him and and so so

38:25

I suppose we go wait him if he'd have

38:27

said we kings played you feel should have got

38:30

more caps. That. I think I'll agree. should

38:32

have got more because even if we just five

38:34

more by suppose many more caps is is the

38:36

question so I would Bruce, Carrot Calgary they go.

38:39

Either. David Nugent to keep up the

38:41

he bought the copper yards by a bus for

38:43

the underwriters on behalf of full of fans Bobby

38:45

Zamora. The. Only person

38:47

I've interviewed him football I didn't like. Me:

38:50

Players opposite? More? Yeah. I.

38:53

Was that very very grumpy. And roots

38:55

is he the guy for an interview

38:57

In interesting and charismatic there's a interview

38:59

him. With. Their the film have

39:01

recently said effort better interviews hundred sometimes

39:03

it is down to the in Canada

39:05

is about what from blames his toes

39:07

A Bobby Zamora certainly was a toll.

39:11

Eighty going to have up to doesn't set

39:13

of it was for injury. While we talked

39:15

about the we considered one of the woke

39:17

up with always more up front is a

39:19

thought. We'll we'll we'll leave. When Melbourne it's

39:21

always smelt Becchio college Zamora have I'm. Thanks.

39:24

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