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That is the end of everybody. Oh it goes first question.
4:10
We have is from grace Grace
4:12
is everyone's talking about how sorry they feel for
4:15
Harry Kane this week Of course round would be
4:17
by Munich and can will new be winning a
4:19
trophy this season Now Grace
4:21
goes on to say but should a football
4:23
success instead be determined by the impact They've
4:26
had on the team that in rather than
4:28
the number of trophies They may or may
4:30
not win feel like the parameters for success
4:32
and football need to be readjusted Well,
4:38
he's hopefully for his sake he
4:40
won't be an outlier for his whole career Yeah, but
4:42
at the moment he's an outlier. Yeah, he's currently a
4:44
loser cuz he's a wanna try He's not one that
4:46
single trophy in his career now clearly. He's one of
4:48
the best players in the world and has been for
4:51
some time Arguably
4:53
the best striker we've ever had England International
4:55
Golf School record would suggest that So
4:59
clearly an outlier in this in
5:01
some ways quite arbitrary way that
5:03
we you know award Achievement
5:07
reward achievements in in football, so I
5:09
totally understand the point the question I
5:11
totally get it I do think the
5:13
conversation around it can be more thoughtful
5:15
and sometimes
5:18
but then ultimately really Football is a sport and
5:20
sports have winners and losers and that's just how
5:22
it goes and I do
5:24
think although it's not the whole entire story
5:26
and Particularly someone for someone like
5:28
Kane at this point. I do
5:31
think it's kind of indicative of A
5:34
quality player when they are able
5:36
to you know win several trophies if you look
5:38
at say Ryan
5:40
gigs for example, he won 13 Premier League
5:42
trophies at United He was clearly in a
5:44
great team a legacy defining team
5:47
But he also played in that
5:49
team regularly all the time and was decent
5:52
and so therefore that is a good measure of
5:54
him Being a good player. I don't think it
5:56
should just be about trophies. So I kind of
5:58
agree with the kind of what's implied
6:00
by Grace's question, but
6:03
I do think it's a good way
6:05
of working it out. So it always
6:08
reminds me a bit of what Winston
6:10
Churchill said about democracy. It's a terrible
6:12
system, but it's the best one we've
6:14
got. It's not perfect because there are loads
6:16
of great players out there who never really get an
6:18
opportunity for different circumstances or different reasons. I
6:22
personally believe when it comes specifically
6:24
to Harry Kane, I think
6:26
he's probably been a bit unlucky. I think
6:28
he's come through at Spurs, he's found
6:31
some loyalty to Spurs. Spurs are just
6:33
timing-wise a big club who
6:35
are in a trophy drought, and that happens. It
6:38
happens to lots of clubs. So now
6:40
he's moved to Bayern Munich, I suspect things will start to
6:42
sort themselves out. They'll have it in the first season, fine.
6:44
It's not the Biel and Endel. It
6:46
probably will at some point. I think we
6:48
should certainly think about the impact that players
6:51
have on teams and their ability and their
6:53
quality as well as trophies. But I do
6:55
think trophies really for players are
6:58
the Biel and Endel really. Yeah, I think
7:00
the last sentence in Grace's message is worth
7:02
paying attention to. She says, feel like the
7:05
parameters for success in football need to be
7:07
readjusted, especially for someone like Kane. And I
7:09
think that's right in this very, very specific
7:11
example. Because if you look at the individual
7:14
achievements that Kane has, they're
7:17
pretty exceptional, really. He's
7:19
England's all-time top scorer, World Cup top
7:21
scorer, Bundesliga top scorer once, won
7:24
the Golden Boot three times in England. He's
7:26
got the individual accolades. And trophies are important.
7:28
Mere all-young player of the year as well.
7:30
Indeed. Trophies are a collective achievement in
7:32
a team sport. So I think a lack of
7:34
them is not an individual failure. I think that's
7:36
a fair thing to level towards Kane.
7:38
And I think also, as you mentioned, the time of
7:40
it is difficult because I think Spurs
7:42
have been tantalisingly close to being a team that
7:45
looked like they could win things for
7:47
basically his whole time there. If he'd come through
7:50
at, say, QPR, just to pluck a team out
7:52
of the air, not to put the boot into
7:54
them, he obviously would have left sooner. Yeah,
7:56
yeah. And he would have won things. But at Spurs... It
7:58
was in that kind of little... Was that lager hinterland?
8:00
all it was so of Little Goldilocks zone was
8:03
what Are you know what this feels like. This.
8:05
Feels like it could work and we could do
8:07
it and I just need to just need to
8:09
give another crack and so presumably you're talking about
8:12
just to give people for example list is like
8:14
to to leak out followers up. Shamsi.
8:16
One up. England. Euros
8:18
runner up yet the arm and at him and
8:20
twenty six staining exposed to the won the league
8:23
and ten close model edo era yeah credible that
8:25
that never ended with a choice. This a really
8:27
good point the gym because yaps a right to
8:29
say that. If he been at same is
8:31
never really see gonna win a major trophy. He
8:34
leaves. Years. And years before a
8:36
this but exactly yeah and a thing as you
8:38
say he's he's going to win trophies it by
8:40
in a some point. Inevitably he at the absolutely
8:42
will soon as yeah Villains Released on the Mayday
8:44
Mayday. Not. Gonna
8:46
have to stay longer. Ugly actually now have
8:48
such a hangover Next a sideline sweet that
8:51
one up or we. I simply don't know
8:53
the race and but yet you Iri is
8:55
a really important measure. He'll be devastated he
8:57
doesn't women, but I just think he will.
8:59
I think if he doesn't. I
9:02
don't think people will look back on his career
9:04
and have that as the defining point of it.
9:06
I think it will be a much larger version
9:08
of those players who play for smaller countries that
9:10
never made it through a welcome in. I don't
9:13
think they bring in there are very tiny, ultimately
9:15
was a bottle job or ultimately you have been
9:17
quite good enough because he is. He's.
9:19
Been the outstanding player in every time he been in.
9:21
really So it's not like he isn't one of these
9:24
players way look at me, think our and he got
9:26
it when it counts as he didn't in the big
9:28
games. Now he's not scored in any less. finals to
9:30
be faded post penalty way in the seats are in
9:32
for in the Heroes by Don't think he's a he's
9:35
I'm. And I think anyone really says he
9:37
not big gameplay you get people at. A
9:40
rumbled opinion isn't it? By the ending is
9:42
particularly strong. Sentiments
9:44
exactly at my things. A little bit
9:46
different actually am. I don't think people
9:48
write the Us will success on trucks.
9:50
He wins at all. Quite frankly, I
9:53
don't know what I really don't am.
9:55
And. And I think that be. Because.
9:57
Big may I remind you of John Terry? Score!
10:00
a goal, running into the crowd, beating
10:02
his chest and shouting trophies! Trophies! Trophies! I
10:04
thought that was Frank Lampard. They both did
10:06
that I think. They both do it. But
10:08
is that not the measure of...
10:11
No, I thought... At that time they
10:13
were both balls in a sack though
10:15
weren't they? I quite like Frank but
10:17
there we are. But not for that.
10:19
No, I really don't actually.
10:21
I think that it's... I
10:24
think because Kane has been so good and
10:26
had such an incredible career and won so
10:28
many individual awards. I think
10:30
people... And as well as it spurs.
10:32
There is that thing about spurs. You never win a trophy.
10:35
It's been this long and that long. And
10:37
so I think he is quite a unique
10:39
example in which we focus on the
10:41
lack of trophies. But the reason why I
10:44
don't think it's a big deal is because when you say Ryan Giggs
10:46
has won a load of trophies, that's not all
10:48
Paul Sculls say. When
10:50
I think of Paul Sculls, I
10:52
don't think back of him lifting
10:54
trophies. I think it's the
10:57
goals that I remember all the passes or the
10:59
performances. And of course some of them have come
11:01
in trophies and his little Willy popping out his
11:03
shorts. I could have connected what he was actually
11:05
doing. I
11:09
want to make it clear I was wagging
11:11
my finger. Yeah, but you coloured
11:14
it ginger for me as well.
11:17
So that's what people remember. You want
11:19
to see my trophy? You want to see
11:21
my little
11:27
ginger? Oi, Harry Kane hasn't got one of these. It's
11:31
the highlight reels and it's the way that these players
11:33
made us feel. That's the most important thing. Yeah, but
11:35
that's part of it though. That's not a romantic part
11:37
of it. No, I think that's it because when Alan
11:39
Shearer is on Match of the Day, you don't look
11:41
at him and go, ah, that black
11:44
bone robe. You look at it, he comes up the amount of
11:46
goals he's got. But this is the thing. I pleased you
11:49
mentioned Shearer because I was going to mention him and I
11:51
totally get the comparison. Similar
11:53
position, good goal score record, all
11:56
the rest of it. If Alan
11:58
Shearer had not won
12:00
that one league tonight with Blackburn, people would
12:02
absolutely be saying that as the key point
12:04
of trivia about his career for the rest
12:07
of his life. Okay, so it matters. Okay,
12:10
so let me row back slightly. I think it matters
12:12
a little bit, but I don't think it matters that
12:14
much. And then
12:16
Shearer's also got the added luxury
12:18
of being by Miles, the Premier
12:21
League top scorer, and for many,
12:23
many years, it was a
12:25
joke how far ahead he was at everyone else. But
12:27
Kane going to Germany was good for Shearer's record. And
12:30
so I think because of Harry Kane, this unique
12:32
example, because of his goal scoring exploits,
12:35
I think that people will focus on that.
12:38
And I think that he's quite a unique character
12:40
in that whole, he actually never won a major
12:42
trophy, but he's gone in search of it. And
12:45
if he doesn't get it at Barn, which
12:47
will be quite something, then I think people,
12:49
it's that weird quirk. And I think in
12:51
a generation or two, when people know the
12:53
name Harry Kane, when he appears on things
12:55
like Gary Lineker as a presenter, or certain
12:57
pundits, and people will go, Oh, am I
12:59
going to stay as Harry Kane score the rules? It will be, you
13:01
know, he never won a major trophy. But I mean, okay, but I don't
13:04
think that will influence us
13:06
on how his success
13:08
will be determined. But it is some, I
13:10
think it's a bit important, but I think
13:12
it's more important for the individual players. Gabriel
13:15
Bata Stutta and Francesco Totti, I'd like to bring to the
13:17
table, please, if I may. And I don't think you'll have
13:19
any complaints about that. Two absolute legends,
13:21
Bata Stutta, if you took away that Serie A
13:24
win for Roma, you wouldn't begrudge him.
13:26
You think of Bata goal in a Fiorentina shirt. He has
13:28
a bronze staff. But that's not the point, is it? No,
13:31
but so no, no, but the point is, I think about
13:33
80% of their career or the success will be
13:36
defined on how they played the game and what they did. I think
13:38
what we're saying about the trophies is about 20%. Now
13:40
Bata Stutta has that statue outside of
13:42
Fiorentina's ground. He is he's one of
13:45
the best strikers that we ever saw.
13:47
He was up until Messi came along,
13:49
Argentina stopped score, not too dissimilar to
13:51
Kane. And that Fiorentina side were
13:54
knocking on the door of the Serie A title for
13:56
a little bit. They were in the Champions League again.
13:58
So comparison, he's then. went to Roma.
14:01
And oddly, Roma wasn't a given. Obviously they won
14:03
the league there, but he was a part
14:06
of that helping. But he got that Serie A
14:08
title. And I think people thought, oh yeah, he
14:10
deserves that. Yeah, absolutely. But how do you not
14:12
have got that? I don't think we would look
14:14
or talk about Bata Stuta. No, but I don't
14:16
think we would either, but I think you're looking
14:18
at it the wrong way round. I
14:21
think everyone respects Bata Stuta, to use
14:23
your example, for the great player he
14:25
was, the romantic figure he portrayed, how
14:27
he looked, his power, his technical ability,
14:29
his goal scoring, all that kind of stuff.
14:32
That's fine. And no one's arguing
14:34
that point. I think the crux of the question
14:36
from Grace though is, you have to
14:38
flip it around. You have to say, if
14:41
Gabriel Bata Stuta did win 10 Serie A trophies
14:43
and four Champions Leagues, does that affect his reputation?
14:45
And of course it does. I don't know, but
14:47
if he had won a Serie A title every
14:50
single year he was in Italy, people would arguably
14:52
say he's the greatest Serie A player of all
14:54
time. So he's not as good as Filippo Nzargi
14:56
then. They massively affect their reputation, which is the
14:59
point. No, but I don't think he did, because
15:01
I think that my example there
15:03
backs it up. Totti and Bata Stuta looked
15:05
much more favorably than Filippo Nzargi, but Nzargi's
15:07
got a Champions League winner's medal. He's won
15:09
Serie A as well. In terms
15:11
of trophies and success, he's... But you're comparing
15:13
different players for a different reason there. Yeah,
15:15
because they're sort of talismanic figures, which is
15:18
a slightly different thing. Which is why that
15:20
success can be determined in different ways. I'm
15:22
saying to you that the trophy wins, the
15:24
trophy wins, somewhat there. You
15:27
can't take away... You'd
15:29
be foolish to take away what certain
15:31
players have done. And when certain pundits
15:33
it flashes up what they have achieved
15:35
in their career, absolutely. And that is
15:38
there. But I'm saying that there are examples where
15:41
had a player never won anything. Had Totti never won
15:43
that Serie A title or Bata Stuta? Okay, the Coppa
15:45
Italia, but that's not quite seen as the same as
15:47
the FA Cup here. I don't
15:49
think it changes the reputation. You could argue then
15:51
that their players are foreign players and we don't...
15:53
But no one's saying that David May is
15:55
a better player than Harry Kane because he won the Premier
15:57
League. No one's saying that. But Grace is saying... parameters
16:00
for successive football need to be readjusted for someone like
16:02
Kane and I'm saying that if he does not win
16:04
a major trophy in his career I don't
16:06
think that that would change the way
16:08
any of us would look at him. Fine
16:10
it would though because it may not change
16:12
how you look at him but if Kane
16:14
goes through his career not winning anything it
16:16
dogs him as a record light. It does
16:18
affect his reputation in loads of different ways.
16:20
Perhaps not for you because you're more thoughtful
16:23
than that but many many people will use
16:25
that as a stick to beating with and
16:28
he knows that because that's part of the reason
16:30
he's probably gone to. I think it becomes a
16:32
pub quiz question that everybody knows the answer to.
16:34
Yeah but it does. A shit pub quiz. Yeah
16:36
but yeah but just because it does I'm I'm
16:39
still not I think it's fellow professionals who do
16:41
that you know we you know in Graham Soonis
16:43
and Paul Pogba and it was all that right
16:45
bring your medals to the table how many have
16:47
you got and all that kind of stuff I
16:49
think he's been pissing up the wall contest. Yeah
16:52
Mark Lawrence did that as well didn't he? Yeah.
16:54
Laura did that once. He did and so on
16:56
a secret camera. Yeah so I honestly think
16:58
it's actually how did that player make
17:00
us feel and what the highlight reel
17:02
will be and I think that is
17:04
the. Marcus is a romantic. He's not
17:06
a romantic. I put this to you.
17:08
Lucky woman Mrs. Speller. Very lucky. Yeah.
17:10
Tom Cairnis never won it. What? He's
17:12
won the championship. He has a euro.
17:15
What happens to Kane's reputation if the only
17:18
trophy he ever wins is the euros. Well
17:20
so this is yeah you're absolutely right. I
17:22
think there's one in the chamber for that.
17:24
Yeah he's just trying to get his notes
17:26
up. Well no but I mean so I
17:28
would compare him. I think it becomes
17:30
a fig leaf. I compare him to another full-on
17:32
player George Cohen who
17:35
you know like absolutely legendary he's
17:38
hulked one club man. Now
17:40
I understand that people may sort of think well
17:42
outside of full of me I've won the World
17:45
Cup with England. So he's immortalized there it's the
17:47
only major trophy he won but not too shabby.
17:50
Slightly similar to Totti who obviously won the World Cup
17:52
but he did win that. Very very different though because
17:54
Kane is the talisman really right. Yeah. This generation's main
17:56
figure. Yeah so I think if he wins the euros
17:59
with England then. in this country that
18:01
they're being elected on the pitch. Well, it's already got, I
18:03
mean, talk about individuals, they've got an MBE for crying out
18:05
loud. We should summarize. Yes. I think
18:07
it's a great question. As Grace and everyone
18:09
else listening will hopefully hear because the impassioned
18:11
debate, it's inspired. I mean, to
18:14
me, it does matter to you, perhaps not
18:16
as much. About 20%. Yeah,
18:18
I think it's important because I think ultimately, in
18:22
summary, from my point of view, I'll just say
18:24
this. When you're a kid who wants to be
18:26
a footballer, what do you imagine it? Yeah,
18:29
you might be imagining a scorer going on a cup
18:31
final, but that's presumably because you want to win the
18:33
cup final. My take on this is that, yes, these things
18:35
are really, really important, but obviously, things
18:39
exist on a case-by-case basis. Right, and Kane
18:41
is so exceptional and he has proven
18:43
himself. So exceptional in every metric that I
18:45
think the standard is slightly different
18:47
for him. I agree. I think the individual,
18:49
close-by-case stuff is there, which is why Alan
18:51
Shearer will always be seen in a much
18:54
higher category than Andy Cole. Yeah,
18:58
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Well back to the mailbag everybody. Right, look at your
20:46
next question. Yeah this is from Bob. Hi Bob. He
20:48
says now that it's Bob Duggan. Bob Duggan sorry. Sounds
20:50
like a wrestler. Bob knows who he is. He
20:53
says now that it's Richard back in the top level after
20:55
22 years what other what other long
20:58
lost club
21:03
would you return to the Barclays with
21:05
your magical Pete Donaldson engineered wand. Don't
21:07
want to talk about Pete's wand. No.
21:09
I assume you
21:12
have at least one Pete Donaldson
21:14
engineered wand in storage. That's probably
21:16
for Patreon subscribers. So
21:18
yeah which club now it's Richard back in the top flight for
21:20
the first time in 22 years which
21:23
other club I don't really like
21:25
how Bob describes clubs who were just in the
21:27
lower leagues long lost. Well I've been out of
21:29
the Premier League a long time. Yeah. Because we
21:31
made a big deal when Forrest came back it
21:33
was good to see them. I think a lot
21:36
of people found that tedious. Yeah they did. Yeah
21:38
that's fine. My friend Adam's a big Huddersfield Town
21:40
fan. He was like that's turned off the ramble
21:42
for a few weeks when you're doing that. Oh
21:44
they used to have Brian Clough in the fucking
21:46
79 Kip. Who did he support? Huddersfield Town. Never
21:49
heard of him. I don't think they've ever been
21:51
in the Premier League. Yeah I sort of respect
21:53
to your mate. Who's that? The
21:55
David Wagner group. I'm always an
21:57
orange now. So it changes. I know it does.
22:00
saying you love that's how you first fell in
22:02
love with David Wagner when he was managing how
22:04
does your town fine you can have that okay
22:06
well after the recent
22:10
FA Cup semi-final I think seeing
22:12
Coventry City back in the Premier League would be
22:14
quite something about Richard Keys though yeah but that's
22:16
the blemish so it's an
22:18
honorable mention but it's not my ultimate answer okay you
22:20
can't take that man seriously yes so so the likes
22:22
of Coventry, go and let him get in your end
22:24
no exactly the likes of Coventry sorry Coventry but I
22:27
can't give you that because it's Richard Keys but an
22:29
honorable mention though because of the 90s
22:32
and all that kind of stuff and the size of the
22:34
club etc in Sunderland would be another one as
22:36
well but I'd love to see at some
22:38
point Sheffield Wednesday back in the Premier League.
22:40
I knew you were going to say that
22:42
yeah I would like both Sheffield clubs to
22:44
be in the Premier League at the same
22:46
time. Yeah that's something about a child. Sheffield
22:48
have not had their child. They have. They
22:50
have. They have absolutely stunk the place out.
22:52
Yes. You've invited Sheffield to your house party
22:54
they've blocked the toilet, drunk all the booze
22:56
and left you with a broken glass a
22:58
four-pack of Tesco value lager in the fridge
23:00
knock the fence down in the back garden
23:02
they put a firework on the fence and
23:04
set fire through it by accident and I've enjoyed it.
23:06
We've all had a really good night. Yeah I was
23:08
going to say haven't you been around their house and
23:10
done all that? Yeah. You should have
23:12
always a good shout though for people of our
23:15
age they were really excited back in the night.
23:17
It's a huge, I mean the stadium is big
23:19
yeah 40,000 you know it's there it's a big
23:21
thing that I love the kit as well. I
23:24
suppose it just what kind of emotions are. I
23:28
come to the service when you think about certain clubs and
23:30
so on and it's a team I used to love watching
23:32
as well with great names so I would
23:34
say Wednesday because Sheffield
23:37
Wednesday is season by season you can't wait oh
23:39
they're in the Championship oh blime no they're in
23:41
league one that you know they've been a long
23:43
while out of it. Yeah they're a storage club.
23:45
It's a big club. I would personally quite like
23:47
to see the start of next season. Derby
23:50
County just promoted with no warning. See
23:53
if you can do better than 11. Who would get more than
23:55
11 points? Who would take up the brim? Classic.
24:00
My answer was actually, and
24:03
hear me out here for a
24:05
few reasons for this. Bolton Wanderers. I
24:08
thought about Bolton. And I'm going to give you why. At
24:10
the moment, as I've said a few times, they play great
24:12
stuff under Ian Evert and he's done an amazing job and
24:14
they're on the up. They'll do pretty well
24:18
going forward under him as well. But
24:21
actually, although when we think about Bolton
24:23
Wanderers, who were in the Premier League for quite a long time,
24:25
you think of kind of Sam
24:28
Adyce years, it
24:30
was before Sam Adyce became the kind
24:33
of evolution, the Pokemon evolution of the
24:35
final Sam Adyce, where he just
24:38
led into his worst kind of
24:40
instincts and became this comedy character. He
24:42
now does a podcast called No Tippy
24:44
Tappy Football, right? But he wasn't always
24:46
like that. No, no, he wasn't.
24:48
And he was very, very innovative when it comes to
24:51
kind of things like stats and data. But he also
24:53
went really far out of his way to bring
24:55
genuinely interesting players to Bolton. And he could
24:57
manage to convince someone like Ivan Campo to
25:00
come to Bolton. Campo and Nelka, a culture,
25:02
Mario Jardel, you know, Gary Medin. That wasn't
25:04
under him. But
25:11
you know, Mario Jardel was a great shout, although
25:13
he was fat. And I can say that as
25:16
a fat man. Fat Fernando Jierro. Fernando
25:19
Jierro as well. So the late great Gary Spies
25:21
in football. I mean, it goes on and on.
25:23
There's a lot. Jay Spearing. Go right. There's
25:26
a lot of Jason McIntyre, I
25:29
think. And your friend of mine,
25:31
Jim, Rob Holding. Indeed. Of
25:33
course. But joking aside, they were really
25:36
interesting team and they used to
25:38
do quite interesting things to get an
25:40
advantage. They were almost a stoke before stoke
25:42
as well, with Arsenal Bolton. Arsenal are quite
25:44
tough against Bolton from memory as well. Yeah,
25:46
I think, As you say, at
25:48
the beginning of Aladice's reign, they weren't necessarily. they
25:50
weren't always like that. Well, it was just something
25:52
they could do. It was a mode of play
25:54
that they had where they could mix it up
25:56
and make it difficult for opponents. They didn't They
25:58
didn't play like that against teams. No
26:00
equal, even it is. This isn't this is the
26:02
question. Isn't it that yeah is less? Basically, who'd
26:04
who makes you feel nostalgic? Gonna get them back
26:07
in? Gonna say I mean, I mean it seems
26:09
mental to say that back in the dice. you
26:11
thousand five. Thousand. And six in
26:13
the preview? That does it. I absolutely does.
26:15
Wimbledon of either I'm Mk dons then obviously.
26:18
I was Mk. Dons, the promos are they
26:21
would maintain the he doesn't care it doesn't
26:23
bother him, yeah, I'd like to see the
26:25
I'd like to. I'm the top to
26:27
the premier league The and Milton Keynes Little More
26:29
wouldn't let owing so near the actually started at
26:31
yeah yeah this one of the algebra saw him
26:34
again your family the only other want. The only
26:36
other one I would add though is because I
26:38
mean without Coventry that as a Tory time on
26:40
and off the pissed have to look conscience Rb
26:42
Nancy, Oldham Athletic know that as a killer that
26:45
as it offered it has been just because they
26:47
were caught on the members the perimeter you're on.
26:49
A about with absurd it's it's an answer
26:52
that question with it. Anything to
26:54
answer the question. In this case no snow is A
26:56
because I would love to see a Bristol. saw it
26:58
in the Premier league yet and but I think this
27:00
is have never been in the Premier league months. Oh
27:02
so you couldn't answer that because of it was a
27:04
return to the to the Barclays as that are not
27:06
as Bobby D was I would you like it to
27:09
be your palms was my boxes you get some point
27:11
box is gonna pick up for this. Probably wondering if
27:13
this is insane. Anyway maybe him. Morris
27:15
has been in touch on X probably the
27:17
best platform scans has been right, stuff on
27:19
at other are so rather than the other
27:21
than the patron shocked obviously. of course I'm
27:24
If you could have one rule change during
27:26
stoppage time, what would it be and why
27:28
Now I'm Personally, I don't think we need
27:30
to be changing rules. I'm just gonna go
27:32
strains Rusty because he counts. I Am Keepers
27:34
has to take all set pieces in the
27:36
opposition. Half Mile High School is included. Imagine
27:38
the chaos. And I would be good.
27:40
You wouldn't want a corner in a lot where
27:43
you him and his runs like stop a corner
27:45
put out for throat is he attacked us My
27:47
daughter sought to see you and your books for
27:49
that. Yeah I'd like to see every three minutes.
27:51
Superstars Long America I'd like to see every three
27:53
minutes. a plan for me thing is removed. isn't
27:57
much more chelsea get a result in the eyes
27:59
of others the It's been sort of that's
28:01
been mooted a lot over the years, isn't
28:03
it? As an attempt sort of potential replacement
28:05
for penalties and I think it
28:08
in practice It would be absolute chaos, but
28:10
you know in terms of entertainment that would make
28:12
it great But you left with like like two
28:14
players on the pitch is exhausted. Yeah, absolutely A
28:17
minor sort of a semi-serious answer is unless
28:21
obvious injury No
28:23
substitutions in stoppage time. I just get fed up
28:25
with managers stopping the game or I think that's
28:27
a good shot Come
28:29
on it's time wasting or it's stupid time. I think
28:31
is the referee had 30 seconds for that anyway It's
28:34
tight disrupting the flow. Yeah Do you know why also
28:36
what they do is because they do it sometimes to
28:38
reward players for having a good week in training So
28:40
they get the appearance bonus stuff like that. Yeah, I
28:42
mean there is that and I understand that You know,
28:44
yeah, maybe Wayne Rooney coming on in the Europa League
28:47
final with like two minutes to go or something like
28:49
that Yeah, give them a little run out But but
28:51
actually it does disrupt the flow of the game and
28:53
it you know, it's it's it's a certain tactic
28:55
that many deploy So yeah, can I also unless
28:57
there's it like an arm as I say, obviously
28:59
if you're gonna go down and you're gonna fight
29:01
injury You've got to get off the stretcher. Yeah,
29:04
I think maybe if you're gonna go down Yeah, it's
29:06
tricky though, isn't it? Cuz you want to play safety
29:08
is really important But I would just
29:10
extrapolate very very quickly if I may just to
29:12
say the same car do you feel quite strongly
29:15
about in terms Of rule changes generally because it
29:17
would solve a lot of quite pointless and tedious
29:19
debate Around scoring records
29:21
is I would genuinely change
29:23
the rule So
29:25
that the player who is fouled for
29:27
the penalty has to take the penalty Because
29:30
because you a lot of time now you see there's
29:32
a few reasons for it One is the statistics thing
29:34
one is because you see a lot of penalties now
29:37
where there's not really a scoring chance
29:39
or it's a it's a it's
29:42
a jet it's like a players
29:44
moving away from goal or They've
29:46
bought it and it is no
29:49
real problem. You move score it the only thing I guess would be
29:51
handball I guess with handball you could maybe if it's a handball you
29:53
can designate your penalty take it But other than that if you are
29:55
fouled for it, you have to take it. How
29:57
about a bit of handball? We have to punch it if
29:59
it's You have to punch it in the nest and
30:01
ride along the floor. Yeah, I think you can throw it up
30:04
and you go Well,
30:08
you could see Marcus you're normally you are on this kind
30:10
of stuff You're much more reticent to change to me. But
30:12
how do you feel about that? I did specifically what a
30:14
better player being failed I haven't to take it. Yeah, I
30:16
just don't see What the sort
30:18
of the merits or the thinking behind it
30:20
is that why why why would you in?
30:23
Yeah, it want to to bring that
30:25
in like what what does it stop? What is it? You
30:28
because with the subs in the stoppage time on it's the
30:30
disruption of the play and it's the it's a kind of
30:33
tactic Which I think now come on we can do without
30:35
I let the game flow We don't want the game flow
30:37
if you see what I mean I said the semi serious
30:39
point because I'm not hugely wedded to it But there's a
30:41
reason why when I'm watching the game something's going on and
30:44
like Why
30:46
then if a player is fouled up what are you
30:49
getting out of that is what I don't think it
30:51
changes the dynamic slightly because if you're someone who you
30:54
know if it's a Defensively
30:57
minded player on like a breakaway going into the
30:59
penalty area taking the opportunity to go down rather
31:01
than actually have a go Yeah They
31:04
know that the best power taker in the team is gonna be
31:06
able to take the penalty and then what's that they score? If
31:08
they have to take it myself and you just change the dynamic
31:10
a little bit It also means that you don't have to have
31:13
this tedious debate about how many of these players goal scoring record
31:15
this season was in Pit with penalty will always be tedious debate
31:17
though. It will pop up one way or not Please
31:20
debate with inevitably another tea. Yeah sure, but also
31:22
the idea of a you know Players
31:24
winning penalties by by simulating or diving or
31:27
whatever you want to call it knowing
31:29
that their Best goal score is
31:31
gonna score it you can't really bake into the rules the
31:33
idea that like some of them are cheating You know they're
31:35
meant to be no I don't know that but for example
31:38
in NBA if you found the player foul takes a free
31:40
throw It's like just part of the fabric of the game.
31:42
Yeah, I Might
31:45
I do what's your point? I wouldn't have them
31:47
using golf. No use Jim's finger What
31:52
a finger it is Shall we
31:54
end the mailbag with this question from what
31:56
Gary who emailed us in he said after
31:58
Jose? Mourinho said
32:00
he would walk to Manchester to take the Manchester
32:02
United job. What should managers do
32:04
to prove their loyalty to their new club?
32:06
It's a great question. It is. It
32:09
really is. Having to walk there would be
32:11
a bad idea because you'd get only local managers wouldn't
32:14
you? Not after Harder Geezer done his thing. He
32:16
ran the length of Africa but he can do it. I
32:18
think Mourinho can walk to Manchester. Imagine the people he'd pick
32:20
up on the way. Doesn't Mourinho live... There's so many
32:22
people there by the time he arrived. Doesn't Mourinho live in
32:25
London anyway? He's certainly got a property in London. So
32:27
he can just walk to Manchester. I've never taken that long.
32:29
Other than the walking to the ground, does
32:32
anybody want to chip in? Yeah, I would
32:34
like to see a scenario where the
32:37
manager would have to break into a rival's
32:39
stadium or training ground and plant a flag.
32:41
It's not quite as simple as that because
32:43
you'd get a budget for it and access
32:45
to the club's security team to help you
32:47
do it. You know it's
32:49
coming though. You know it's coming. I'd like
32:51
it to be. Don't know where. Don't know
32:53
when. I just
32:55
think when Michaela Aetes gets the Arsenal job, Spurs
32:57
are going right. Come on. It's
33:00
about security. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. But if he
33:02
manages it, they're just going like, ah, fucking hell,
33:04
that's annoying. And then we'll get one of
33:06
our lives. Yeah, I don't know why I'm talking this down. This
33:08
would be brilliant. I would do what I would do. You
33:11
know, like in a lot of jobs, you have to
33:13
pass a test. Yes, yes, this is what I'm thinking.
33:15
So like, I don't know, presumably if you are working
33:18
in some kind of financial services, you have to pass
33:20
an exam or whatever to show that you're qualified and
33:22
then maybe you have to do like a compliance check
33:24
or whatever. If you imagine
33:26
you come in and you manage a club, you
33:28
have to pass like an aptitude test. It's
33:31
not basically like a citizenship test and you know enough about the club. Yeah.
33:34
And so it's like 20 questions. They can be multiple choice. But in
33:36
front of the fans. No, well, let me
33:38
get to the bit. Okay, okay. They have to answer
33:40
it. They have to get a certain
33:42
amount of score to be eligible
33:45
to actually take the job. And if they fail
33:47
that exam, I think they should get a bullet
33:49
in the head. All
33:54
right, but
33:56
mine slightly different. Slightly different in that
33:58
squid game. I
34:00
just think it's too many mergers. Anyone
34:03
who calls for a merger, can't they? Half of them haven't got
34:05
a job. I was going to suggest a knife, but
34:07
I'm a pro. No, I like
34:10
the idea of a test. I think some sort
34:12
of trivia test about the club in front of
34:14
a fans group. They can just fire any questions.
34:16
It'd be good. Or the
34:18
other one I thought, I quite like when
34:21
Thomas Tuchel went to Chelsea, head to toe in
34:23
club attire, tracksuit or whatever. You really got
34:25
to try and give the club shop a bit and
34:28
do a solid fit there. It always makes me laugh.
34:30
Is it like the new manager is coming in invariably
34:32
in the press conference, they'll go, wow, yeah,
34:34
it's an absolutely massive club and I'm delighted to
34:36
be here. And I just wonder how far down
34:39
the privilege you can go and say that. I'm
34:41
pretty sure Chris, you know, Chris, Courtney Chris, he
34:43
said to us once that the
34:46
manager who just announced there's the new manager of
34:48
Chesham United said it's a massive club. I'm glad
34:50
she thought it'd be. I'm not
34:52
being rude about a non-league club, Chesham United, I'm sure
34:55
they're great in everything. But by no measure,
34:59
by a massive club. Well by a measure of the
35:01
league they're in, they might think. Marcus,
35:03
come on. Fine, the
35:05
best one of that was Walter Zenga when he
35:07
was wanting to manage Wolves. And he said, oh,
35:09
in Italy Wolves are like one of the biggest
35:11
clubs in the world. Everyone talks
35:13
about Wolves. No, they don't. They've not
35:15
been in top flight very long. It can't be true.
35:18
We love Steve Bull, like, come on, what have you
35:20
got? He's trying his best, that's his version of the
35:22
test, though, isn't it? Yeah. He's
35:24
naming one of the all-time best players. No, he never, I added that.
35:26
Oh, you added that bit, I thought he was doing it. I
35:29
loved it when Paul Inks played there. He wasn't saying any of this. Oh,
35:31
Dennis Irwin. Still, and he bounced by. Oh, he's dead as Irwin was there.
35:33
Can I just say, I don't, Paul Inks didn't
35:35
really play there. He's in the kit,
35:37
but he was pictured in the kit. He's shouted a lot, yeah.
35:40
Yeah. A few times. The
35:42
only other one I was saying, the new manager and
35:44
the coaching staff have to recreate a famous goal
35:46
score by that club, sort of, Bideal and Skin Rest
35:48
on the pitch. Fix and the Flames type. Yeah,
35:50
definitely. Roy doing that. Yeah.
35:53
Can I do a tap-in? Can I
35:55
try and do the Clint Dempsey again? Do
35:57
you remember, they're there all afternoon Oh
36:00
Roy Hodge has been announced as the new manager of Milan. He's
36:05
got to run the Lexus page like George Weyer. Oh
36:09
no, the fans choose. It'll be there in a
36:11
minute. Maridio gets the value of the lighter job.
36:14
That Rooney Volley gets Newcastle. We create that. You've
36:16
got to do it. Yeah. Good
36:18
news is we brought the keeper back. He's in goal. Was
36:21
that a shame? It might have been a
36:23
shame given, yeah. Or Steve Harper. Or his
36:25
double Steve Harper. Right, everybody. Get him there.
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