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1:50

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2:00

weekend Dilf himself. Dilf! Okay,

2:04

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2:06

just was just surprised to

2:08

hear such coarse language at the

2:11

start. You are now, you're a double verified

2:13

Dilf. See, even he wasn't sure of that

2:15

one. Double Dilf. Yeah, you should never double

2:17

Dilf. Yeah, that's true. It's

2:19

international break time! Come on! Thank

2:22

goodness we've made it. I've

2:24

had it up to here with

2:26

club football. There's too much

2:28

admin in club football I find. Don't get any

2:30

of this international. Leicester City are full

2:32

and foul of it as well. The boffins are after them

2:34

now. So thank goodness.

2:38

Good luck to everybody involved in that. May

2:41

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3:07

ramble. We start with Wales'

3:09

big win against Finland. Andy

3:12

Brassel, they knew you were coming. They

3:14

put on a show for you. Didn't they just? Didn't

3:17

they just? 4-1 of course. Yeah,

3:20

but it had a weird sort

3:23

of rehearsal feel to it. Because

3:25

of course, you know that they need to keep

3:27

a bit in the tank for Poland. And

3:30

it was always going to be Poland. Yeah, and

3:32

not that they were assuming a win or anything

3:34

like that. You know, the atmosphere was still, I

3:36

always find it quite unusual when you go

3:39

to a Wales game at Cardiff City, because

3:41

it is a really great experience. But

3:44

you look at the stadium from the

3:46

outside, and it doesn't feel like an

3:49

inspiring sporting arena. And

3:51

then you get in there, and it feels,

3:53

and it's like, oh my god. It's

3:56

amazing. It's like a thousand times better than

3:58

when they play at home. them and I think

4:00

they were all quiet and they were going hang on, he'll be here in

4:02

a minute. Let's

4:05

sing. They do sing better than any other

4:08

fans in international football. It's remarkable. They look

4:10

like a big fun club that you really

4:12

want to be a part of, don't they?

4:14

Yes. There's proper cultures growing around the travelling

4:16

fans of Wales at international

4:19

tournaments and that's such

4:21

a brilliant thing. Yeah, I do

4:23

agree with that. You're right to

4:25

say about them singing. I did witness

4:27

them play Portugal in Euro 2016, semi-final, and

4:30

I think the

4:32

Portuguese fans are quite underrated when it comes to

4:34

international football with their singing and their chanting and

4:36

their fist bumping. Interesting. It's unlike

4:38

you to shit on Portugal there, Andy. Well,

4:41

I don't think he did. Well, I think he did. He's on

4:43

with me with this. Okay. Are

4:46

you going to apologise when you go back there? We'll

4:50

make sure they know what you said. Yeah. Once

4:52

I've got to the bottom of that lake and

4:55

got my dictaphone back so I can record an

4:57

apology. Yes, I will. There we

4:59

go. Yeah, I will. Well, Wales got a big

5:01

win so did Portugal last night, by the way,

5:04

but what a start

5:06

it was. It was. A lovely, lovely

5:08

finish from Brooks. It was amazing, the

5:10

way he readjusted in mid-air

5:12

to finish that. Beautiful. But having said that,

5:15

the singing's still going. Finland

5:17

are just catching their breath after that.

5:20

Lucas Wudetsky, who bear in mind, is

5:22

the goalkeeper for the Bundesliga leaders, the

5:24

team who are going to win the Bundesliga. When

5:27

he pushes out that shot from Harry Wilson, you thought that's

5:29

poor. The thing is,

5:31

Wilson has got an incredible left foot, but

5:33

he's not really panelled that. And Wudetsky pushes

5:35

it out to pretty much the only place

5:37

where Wales can score. But he's not going to hold it though,

5:39

is he? And if he pushes it, you

5:41

know, as if more kind of in

5:44

a 180 degree angle, then it's right across the

5:46

face of the field. No, but if he pushes

5:48

it back where it came from or

5:50

in the other direction, there's no other

5:52

Wales player in sight. Is that not down to

5:54

the pace of the move? It Was

5:56

quite slick and it felt like everything. Preliminary

6:00

Definitely was reacting to what Wells Day yeah,

6:02

arbitrary minutes? yes is really. I mean obviously

6:04

that defined the game. The Fat Less good

6:07

really early in the first half and really,

6:10

early in the second off. but the is

6:12

that idea of it being us of. Rehearsal.

6:15

Of about being a way to work out

6:17

Kings is funny because as I the atmosphere

6:20

is extraordinary some moments or other moments a

6:22

bit to little bit as if minds or

6:24

elsewhere and Wales defended in the first half

6:26

an hour of I think they're a much

6:29

better team and I were that aswell top

6:31

very much a good as much about your

6:33

they already like their of wildlife yet out

6:35

of them back really anything but I just

6:38

want you to hold the a really good

6:40

run. I actually agree with that same to

6:42

say that about the best very fire. Ever

6:45

since. yes I'm in a see exactly

6:47

what you say but naturally whenever these

6:49

these things from a bow other players

6:51

come to school because they just have

6:53

to play a Blm differently. You

6:55

know we see with smiles for example in

6:57

the way that plane leaves and suddenly am

7:00

at all but they you know everyone scoring

7:02

goals is it is. Yeah stuff like everyone

7:04

else is there now but I think there

7:06

is a difference was is that the at

7:08

the end of gas bills, courier mail yet

7:10

sign language I'd miss the priests not really

7:12

twice as yeah ill with without bail. I

7:14

don't think Harry will soon you know a

7:17

boost to an extent of as he came

7:19

back from from cancer, wheeler lymphoma, Similar

7:22

Dan James or even if a willing to point

7:24

on a gave him a bit as space to

7:26

get elected or I put the i'm produce is

7:28

another good example of this offing the ever gave

7:31

it to the pressure of them to point but

7:33

for the other side of that is is the

7:35

fact that if you wales. You. Have

7:37

to be impeccable Off the ball the of

7:39

yeah because he amazes own methods. Ah north,

7:41

you can't do that with Bio and to

7:43

be on is probably our graduating in the

7:45

same anymore. Added that bit of luck involved.

7:48

In a sense of the timing of a or which

7:50

is that oversee that the players that were going to.

7:53

Take type of place of bolland Ramsey in in.

7:55

Place. or little bit more limited list let's

7:57

be honest or at least younger in our light

7:59

yellow the players have got their best years

8:01

ahead of them now. They've always had a bit

8:04

of an exuberance, a youthful exuberance about the teams

8:06

under Paige and maybe say before. I

8:08

mean we should apologize to well fans because we

8:10

were just talking about Bale and so on. He's

8:12

long gone now actually really. This is not exactly

8:15

the first game without him but

8:17

it's a brilliant win. The aforementioned

8:19

Williams scored the pick of the goals and we are going

8:21

to mention Gath Bell just for a moment because I think

8:23

this is a good home. He scored his free kick in

8:26

that exact same spot two years ago when Wales beat Austria

8:28

at the same stage of the playoffs. Dan James with that

8:30

fourth goal. Oh

8:32

come on! More ground than Gareth Bale did in

8:34

his last two and a half years. I

8:38

would go maybe six internationals. That was

8:40

brilliant. It's the most Dan James goal

8:42

possible. Only he could roll that. Because

8:44

no other forward would think I'm not

8:46

going to press. With three one up,

8:49

the defenders got the ball, he's in his own half.

8:51

There is no danger here. I could get it. This

8:57

guy's not seen my party tree. It was the

8:59

way the defender looks over his right shoulder, sees

9:01

James about 20 yards away. He's like it's okay.

9:04

He looks back to the keeper, looks around and

9:06

goes oh he's not there because he's only done the

9:08

pie. It's

9:10

like a horror movie. Well maybe

9:13

Wales were so pumped for this

9:15

game because of Reece Ifens's pre-match

9:17

team talk. Did you see this

9:19

Jack? I did. Rousing. Yeah the

9:21

famous actor of course in I

9:24

Can Only Think of Notting Hill. He's in lots

9:26

of things. He's in lots of things. Spider-Man. He's in

9:28

the importance of being idle, the Oasis video. So

9:30

that's probably the finest achievement. Oh yeah. There we go.

9:33

Of his career. And he unlike in Notting Hill, he

9:35

wasn't just in his pants. That's right. But his

9:37

speech I think it's some you know a number of

9:39

people would have seen this. I think it would have

9:41

been more rousing if he'd just been in his

9:43

pants. Yeah no if he started fully

9:47

close and by

9:49

the end every pause, you know it's brilliant you should think

9:51

it out, but every pause he just takes off an item

9:53

of clothes. But then of course in the ends with just

9:56

his pants on because there would be slight relief I

9:58

think from the players. But you know. So

10:00

a very rousing as opposed to a

10:02

rousing speech and well, I

10:04

would say so I watched that speech and I was like

10:06

I want to play for world I've

10:09

some might say it was slightly over the top

10:11

with some of the historical references. I'm not sure

10:13

I very much enjoyed it But I do think

10:16

that they've gone big Really

10:18

for the semi-final. I've already had Michael Shane. They

10:20

have a junior in the World Cup Yes, but

10:23

that's what I mean is, you know, you're gonna use

10:25

them again. Maybe not so what you're saying Tom Jones

10:27

for the final now you're talking John kale to just

10:29

say nothing I

10:31

think Tommy Jones to just sit there and they go right

10:34

Tom. We are kicking off in ten minutes You're gonna have

10:36

to say something Then

10:39

he goes sex bomb sex Anthony

10:44

Hopkins I

10:47

reckon you got to keep you got to

10:49

keep a Hopkins in the chamber for the

10:51

knockout stages, don't you? Even the chamber with

10:53

a mask on yeah, maybe a little bit

11:01

Fucking eat you if you don't win this he's having a bowl

11:03

of spaghetti Hopkins

11:06

do a spoken word verse and Tom

11:08

Jones belt out of chorus. Love it.

11:10

Ah Inspiring sort

11:12

of musical about Robbie Savage. What

11:14

about him? Yeah Yeah,

11:17

hello savage I Do

11:20

Anthony have done Charlotte Church here or is

11:23

she more of a rugby person? Ah, good

11:25

point I she I think she's very patriotic.

11:27

Yeah, yeah, she'd get involved Right

11:31

Jim. I thought I think an oddly sort of Thing

11:36

this this ongoing Prematch

11:38

inspirational talk. I said we could have it

11:40

as well The thing is if you go

11:42

too high then naturally the fall

11:44

when things don't go well is you

11:47

know quite stark So maybe when if they do

11:49

get me, you know They don't make it through

11:51

next week or if they do disappoint in the

11:53

euros They should bring Gareth Bale back to come

11:55

in and be like that's all right in

11:57

it. There's always the next one golf club

11:59

in hand Yeah, let's have 18 holes for

12:01

them. It was great

12:03

for me to have a golf club. Like

12:06

I said, I always felt that kind of like

12:09

75% in. Like

12:11

it was a great night. It was a good

12:13

performance that they know could do with a little

12:15

bit of tweaking. But if they defend like they

12:17

did in the first half, they're in

12:19

trouble. But they tighten that up

12:21

at half time. You've got a sense that

12:24

the wing backs had more of a sense

12:26

of their defensive responsibility. So as well as

12:28

being a really

12:30

good occasion that was a rehearsal for a

12:33

great occasion, it was a pretty

12:35

good performance, which was a rehearsal for a

12:37

sort of performance that they probably think they

12:40

will need to get there. Yes. Well, of

12:42

course they do play Poland on Tuesday. Who

12:45

they are better than, by the way. Yes. And they're at

12:47

home, of course, Wales. Yeah, that makes a massive difference. Which

12:49

we would think would make a massive

12:51

old difference. So, yes. And

12:53

elsewhere in the playoffs last

12:56

night, Luxembourg were away to

12:58

Georgia. Now they lost the game 2-0. There

13:01

was an extraordinary passage of

13:03

play, which lasts for about four minutes, which

13:05

if you haven't seen, try and seek it out. I think you'll find

13:08

it on Twitter probably. Where

13:11

Georgia won goal up and

13:14

there's a ball over the top. Their man runs

13:16

onto it and is fouled.

13:19

And it's always inside the box or outside the

13:21

box. And apparently a Vacek is

13:24

being conducted. But it's not

13:26

given. And the game

13:28

continues. Luxembourg go up the other end and

13:30

equalize and celebrate as if they've just scored

13:33

a last minute winner. OK, but

13:35

fine, that's up. That's you know, they celebrate how they

13:37

want. So they go absolutely crazy. One or, you know,

13:40

a huge goal for them. And then that sort

13:42

of begins to calm down. And if

13:44

there's a few minutes has gone past and then

13:46

the referee suddenly goes, hang on, hang on, I'm

13:48

getting cold in the air here, goes over to

13:50

the screen. This allows the Luxembourg goal. And

13:53

It's a question of is it a penalty or

13:55

is it not? It's deemed outside the box, but

13:57

it's a straight red card. So Luxembourg Go. From.

14:00

Being. In. A position where the think

14:02

right one all we're back into. it's a on

14:04

a night entertainment and that rural rural go down

14:07

and that's probably the game up which could see

14:09

it would subsequently be a think the mom insists

14:11

it. yeah. I think there has

14:13

to be he says of arctic like that.

14:16

And it's and it's seven. It looks like

14:18

a very very tricky want to call. He's

14:20

surely just got this is guys like I'm

14:22

far more extensive version of. When.

14:24

Of really like Flag comes, isn't it? Yeah, but

14:26

you've got to blow the whistle. Was a high

14:28

on a minute because that. Passage. Applies,

14:30

It's just. The. Emotions? yeah, I

14:32

used for any council your. Psu

14:35

was made with was what about it was

14:37

writing. About Iran has

14:40

added to it or any idea was your

14:42

accent from yeah now does. Anyway let's get

14:44

away from those playoffs Sir Alex talk about

14:46

the friendly's or is mild mannered uses. I

14:48

don't believe in friendlies is a challenge match

14:50

Abs of England face present in a challenge

14:53

Max had to borrow even to get Wembley

14:55

at seven England I do prefer that is

14:57

is something that yeah he thought it was

14:59

a some social do a thing that. Of

15:01

ten year olds would respond. And

15:05

my goodness with the gym. When I'm I'm

15:07

Australia you are very aggressive competitive men that

15:10

were apparently so erm opponent them while Adam

15:12

England are unbeaten in their last three meetings

15:14

with. Brazil. The most recent one thing and

15:16

they'll move rural. At. Wembley that was head

15:19

of the two thousand and eighteen woke up

15:21

I was there. it was a rather Bordeaux

15:23

and yes sir I'm hoping at tomorrow is.

15:26

A better. Game team huge said England

15:28

should have someone to in pre match. Team.

15:30

Talks? Who would you fancy? Matt. Berry

15:32

mouth Summer has yet. Yeah you,

15:34

you get a masters in some

15:36

model moment barriers. Matt Berry is

15:38

a comic actor that with a

15:41

very very silly voice has a

15:43

lot of presence. I'm. Very.

15:45

So of kind of can't and van

15:47

piss do it can you do that

15:49

impression not really of editor impression arsenal.

15:51

I don't know that god I got

15:53

out there a direct their small. Dempsey.

15:56

That is my last pulled them how Dempsey that was

15:58

Do know that will manage. That was a. What

16:02

about a guy does X Factor force oversight or

16:04

text? or? yeah, yeah, he's firing one? Me that

16:06

would be good. My say? who would be good?

16:09

Tom. Skinner. Rise

16:11

you're relying on know I can see

16:13

that happening and I'd hate it is

16:15

a site that when a guy for

16:18

as Abbas can I put food Jim

16:20

Collins know yet the only time I've

16:22

ever seen by more look happy with

16:24

the years ago his wisdom of commons.

16:26

It. Is also an idea. Tell your lot of

16:28

a star power to see as as far as

16:30

I would oliver maybe she pulled out a whole

16:33

he on Sunday. the hot water and a. While

16:36

either I think all agreed now

16:38

includes shouldn't have every sliding what.

16:42

We found a great yeah well. To.

16:46

Get this out the way Then to. The

16:49

New England kits that the

16:51

This and Judas Cross has

16:54

them had a playful up

16:56

according to night. And. They

16:58

are you. Perhaps you've seen this on the

17:00

back of the column of them was bullshit.

17:02

but. The The. The the one

17:04

in sort of that was on question on

17:06

social media was it was the home show in

17:08

particular the horizontal line of the crosses noise

17:10

use read as a mixture of navy light blue.

17:13

And a sort of. A. Pinkie, To the movies

17:15

on of tell us and this is that

17:17

the schools everybody to to to have. I know

17:19

not everybody has has caused a number of

17:21

people to have a bit of a ding dong

17:24

about this. I like the New England is up

17:26

to be like the way my city awake

17:28

it's a nice is invited years and it's a

17:30

shame that this is what's being spoken guys

17:32

that have that yelling brilliant But I think is

17:34

also a shame that a a huge company

17:36

decided to give a nation's flag a playful

17:38

updates. Now the s I did agree to this

17:41

you nope and I can understand why people

17:43

are a bit like saying. on the each

17:45

should mess with a country is really allows

17:47

it's it's it's a strange thing to do

17:49

or don't think we should have done it

17:51

i haven't lost a wink of sleep you

17:53

actually hear about this and i suspect that

17:55

that is probably what most people's opinions are

17:57

about this yeah but it's sir It's

18:00

attracted some dickhead. It has. From like the

18:02

user's perspective. You not

18:04

being one of them, Jim. Thank you. The

18:06

sort of vocal minorities that are sort of,

18:09

you know, are kind of like the

18:12

Pied Pipers to a lot of

18:14

angry people that don't really think

18:16

too deeply themselves are saying it's

18:18

virtue signaling, but without really being

18:20

able to identify the virtue that's

18:22

being signaled. Because this

18:24

isn't a flag of anything, is it? It's

18:26

just different colours in

18:28

the shape of the St. George's flag. And the 2011

18:30

England kit had different coloured crosses

18:33

on it as well, you may remember, on the shoulders

18:35

as well. So we've seen this happen before. And

18:38

the reason Knight gave is because it was a

18:40

nod. They said on the sleeve trims it was a

18:42

nod to the England 1966 training kit,

18:44

which is very

18:46

specific. It is. And it's

18:48

also a bit naff. Yeah, yeah. But I think

18:50

a lot of design choices are

18:52

made with these sort of things in mind. And

18:55

you never realise that as a sort of, you

18:57

know, consumer. On the Awake, it was kind of

18:59

the panels down the side. There's

19:02

a splash of colour there. And it was apparently a

19:04

nod to the fashionistas and those who

19:06

kind of... And it's just not exactly what I'm

19:08

talking about. Yeah. It's like, don't explain.

19:10

Just say, well, we fancy just as an alphabet. I quite

19:12

like it having a point of interest as well.

19:14

But it's, you know, I think the people

19:16

that are sort of taking Umbridge with this

19:19

know that actually

19:21

it isn't virtue signaling. These

19:23

colours don't mean anything, but it's a very, very

19:25

easy way to whip up some

19:28

anger in a tedious and frankly,

19:31

damaging culture. And we see more and

19:33

more of it. And it's just it's

19:35

just a big shame. The England kit

19:37

is never cultural. Well, the funny thing,

19:39

the thing I find amusing about it

19:41

is it feels like it's,

19:44

you know, the colours have elicited

19:46

a reaction in those dickheads because

19:48

it, you know, it points to

19:50

I suppose other issues where they're quite

19:52

strident on, you know, unreasonably strident on.

19:55

But I think it's

19:57

also it was also triggered by Nike's. tweet

20:00

about it, where they referred to it as a

20:02

playful update. Yeah, that was a bit sloppy. And

20:04

on the colour to unite and inspire. But to

20:07

my mind, those those types of people read playful

20:09

and they were oh, I don't

20:11

want to even playfully in our country. And

20:13

also the idea of like to unite and inspire

20:15

being something that has been used to bring communities

20:17

together is exactly the kind of thing they dislike.

20:19

Divide and conk. To a point,

20:22

yeah. That's the whole point of an international

20:24

football team. Exactly, yeah. Bring back Umbro, eh

20:26

Andy? Yeah, there we go. There's some of

20:28

the some of the comments under that like

20:31

night. I suppose it wasn't a clarification

20:33

tweet, it was an explaining tweet. But some

20:35

of the comments being like, well done. We won't be

20:37

buying this. I was like, mate, do you know how

20:39

few people actually buy a New England kit? Yeah,

20:42

you don't worry about it. They're not worried.

20:44

Full price, certainly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You're an

20:46

idiot. By the way, just in case anybody

20:48

is not sure of the admin, this kit

20:50

was conceived two years ago. The FAA did

20:53

sign it off. They are complicit. And

20:55

if they were to kind of go, all right, we'll recall

20:57

them and then send out a load. It would probably take

20:59

about six to nine months, apparently. So this is this is

21:01

what we've got. So it's like your lumpet or all the

21:03

England players wear a neck brace when they wear their away

21:06

kit. But yeah, it's a good idea, Andy. And I think

21:08

that's a snood. No doubt these people would

21:10

love to bring the snood back. Anyway, we're getting off the topic.

21:12

England versus Brazil. Tomorrow, it's a big one. Brazil

21:14

have a new manager, Doreval Jr. He

21:18

has been the new manager since January. Did you see

21:20

the interview that he did in the Guardian? I did.

21:22

It's very, I loved it. Very frank.

21:24

Yeah, he's a really interesting character. He seems very happy

21:26

to be there, but also really, really sort of straight

21:29

talking and emotionally quite honest. So

21:32

really revealing stuff in there. He said there's something like

21:35

between 1500 and 1600 Brazilian players playing

21:37

away from Brazil now, which is an

21:40

extraordinary number. Really, really extraordinary. And

21:42

talked about how the national team is is

21:45

very, very different from how it used to be. He

21:47

says it's been going on for 10 years or more.

21:49

Exactly. He's not suddenly realized this. And how, you know,

21:51

when the when the players come back to

21:53

play for Brazil, they play the game and

21:55

then they're off back to their clubs, obviously, because they

21:57

have to be. So, you know, they they don't they're

21:59

not around. when the impact of the national team

22:01

is happening anymore. He's not criticizing anybody, et cetera,

22:03

et cetera. But it was a really sort of

22:06

honest and frank explanation. I

22:09

think he's saying, if you look at what we just

22:11

talked about Wales there, trying to galvanize everybody. And

22:14

we've seen this with a number of teams. If

22:16

he's trying to do that, he's maybe thinking, okay, there

22:18

are things, I mean, Eddie Jones said this about the

22:20

England rugby team. He said that any rugby team that

22:23

he's managed before, he knew that there were certain touch

22:25

points. He was like, ah, yeah, I can start talking

22:27

about this. Or there's this kind of strand of

22:29

chat or whatever you want to say. And

22:32

he found England, the England team, the hardest to try and

22:34

kind of get a sense of that Englishness. And we know

22:36

in England they've... We should also

22:38

clarify Eddie Jones is a bellend. Yeah, fine. But

22:41

he's an incredibly prominent figure in the

22:45

sport of rugby and has reached a couple of rugby

22:47

World Cup finals. But yes, there's no doubt

22:49

what you just said. It's the only thing

22:51

England and Australia could agree on. And

22:56

I think it comes from a place of just having

22:59

no empathy whatsoever. Whereas I

23:01

don't think Duravale comes off in that way. No, I

23:03

don't either. And to finish my point is that, you

23:05

know, sometimes it can be quite difficult. I mean, you

23:08

say about the players, look at Andres Pereira, I'm

23:11

a full midfielder, of course. I don't think he's even lived

23:13

in Brazil. He grew up in Belgium, actually. He chose to

23:15

play for Brazil. So perhaps in

23:17

some of the more traditional ways of trying to

23:19

bring a score together emotionally or whatever,

23:22

maybe he's sort of suggesting that. Yeah,

23:24

you get players like Endrick leaving his

23:26

teenagers, Vinicius Jr. and a leperly younger

23:29

neighbour. I think he's creating

23:31

a massive rod for his own back here.

23:33

Because the thing is, he's come

23:36

to power basically because Carl

23:38

Einzellorti kind of left them in the lurch. They

23:40

thought they were getting in for ages. And so

23:42

they've gone for this. I guess, like the

23:45

CBF would say, unity candidate. He's

23:48

honestly probably about what, third, fourth, fifth choice.

23:51

And he set himself up on, yeah,

23:53

we need to be more Brazilian. We

23:55

need to pick more homegrown players. And

23:57

the way that football works, it's just totally...

24:00

That's not what he said. No,

24:03

but you're talking about one interview. Okay, so

24:05

he said it the other way. I'm talking

24:07

about every single press conference that he's given

24:09

before and since taking the job, which is

24:11

we need to be more Brazilian, we need

24:13

to have more home-based places. It's like, how?

24:15

How? So is he touching

24:17

on a bit of a political point there?

24:19

Is this almost like a manifesto, you

24:22

know, a pointer in terms of something that he's decided to

24:24

bring to the table? Yeah, a little bit. A

24:27

little bit of favour. I think

24:29

it's really interesting because Brazil,

24:32

I think, are in quite a bad place at the

24:34

moment. Well, that's what he's addressing. Yeah, but

24:36

he's part of that. He's part of

24:38

that. He just joined them, Andy. No, but the fact

24:40

that he's got the job is like

24:42

really a manifestation of the fact that they're not

24:45

in the right place. Does he even sound like

24:47

Brazil, do you know? Well, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Well,

24:49

but I mean, he's, you

24:51

know, despite being called Junior, he's 61 years

24:53

old and he,

24:55

you know, he has been a manager

24:57

for many, many years. I mean, he was a

25:00

player beforehand, never played for the

25:02

select Sal, but he had

25:05

a respectable playing career. Obviously, he's

25:07

manager of many, many teams. He's managed most

25:09

of, if not all of the big clubs in Brazil.

25:11

And he said that he said

25:13

that when he goes into this job, he feels

25:15

like he's all of those jobs and everything has

25:18

kind of propelled him into this. Anyway, so it

25:20

bodes well for Brazil that England have got injuries

25:22

because Sacher is out of

25:24

the squad completely. Yeah. Can't

25:27

help but look at Michael, our, our Tetra and

25:29

think, what are you, what are you scheming here?

25:32

It might be like William Saligas toe injury. Gabrielle's

25:34

out as well. Ben

25:38

White didn't. Actually, you

25:40

know how like Gianluca Violi used to

25:42

find the Chelsea players if they didn't

25:44

wear sliders in the shower. Do

25:47

you reckon like because, you know, if you

25:49

could damage your feet, do you reckon for

25:51

the last week before international break, all

25:54

the coaches are like, just barefoot this week, lads. Yeah.

25:57

No, no, no aftershaves though. Yeah,

26:00

exactly. Oh yeah, Declan Rice had to pull out

26:02

with a Veruca. Well,

26:05

Harry Kane has twisted his ankle

26:08

and he is unlikely to

26:11

start against Brazil, it's fair. I

26:14

like that there's none of this cynicism for

26:16

St Harry. He's there, isn't he? He's putting

26:18

himself into the post-theatric. What was very amusing

26:20

is how the sporting

26:22

director of Bayern, Christoph

26:25

Freund, he was asked about it after

26:27

the game against Darmstadt where he injured

26:29

himself last week. And he's like, we're

26:32

in constant contact with the English FA

26:34

about Harry's condition at the moment.

26:37

And it was hilarious because of course Bayern are used

26:39

to ruling the roost. They're like, we're in a situation

26:41

actually where we have the England captain, he was saying,

26:43

read in between the lines, where actually we've got no

26:45

influence on this, they're going to do what they're fucking

26:47

like. And if he wants to play, he's going to

26:49

play and there's nothing we can do about it. Yeah,

26:51

that's why he's St Harry. And I

26:53

don't know any other Arsenal players currently playing their

26:55

trade who have got a statue either. No. Did

26:59

you see the images have been finally

27:01

released of this statue that was

27:03

supposed to be installed at Chingford station? Is

27:05

Chingford in London or East? East London. East

27:07

London, yeah. We talked about this before. Probably

27:11

in the hinterland where it's a little

27:13

bit of both. What do you think

27:15

of the statue? I think it looks

27:18

like it has been created to frighten

27:20

children. As an

27:22

example of the man that will come and get you

27:24

if you eat too much chocolate. Yeah, because he looks

27:26

like he's made of chocolate. Yeah, that's a good point.

27:28

And he's massive. He looks a little bit, the

27:30

head looks a little bit Vanhal. I

27:33

know what you mean. Yeah. If Harry

27:35

Kane doesn't start, who would you fancy? Well,

27:38

this is interesting because the

27:40

week before I returned from

27:42

India, I very much enjoyed

27:44

the quite colourful debate had

27:46

here between maybe yourself and Luke or

27:49

maybe between Luke and himself about.

27:51

The colours were just white and red, to

27:53

be clear. No virtue signaling. Yeah, well, exactly.

27:56

Yeah. Yeah. But

27:59

it was essentially about. around how Watkins

28:01

should get the nod because of what

28:03

he's done this season. That was Luke's

28:05

argument. And, and a very, very understandable.

28:07

Yeah, totally. So

28:10

I kind of agree with that, actually. I

28:12

do prefer Ivan Tony, but I do think

28:14

actually Watkins has shown us something, not

28:16

so much with his goals, actually, but maybe more

28:18

with his link up play, what he's double figure

28:20

assists in the league is in the moment. He's

28:23

all across it. Yeah, yeah. And he clearly has

28:25

gone up a level for Villa

28:27

and he's a large part of the reason why they

28:29

are fighting for that Champions League spot. I

28:32

think it's, this is actually

28:34

quite a big deal. I don't necessarily put too much

28:36

stock in friendlies, but with someone like Harry Kane out,

28:39

this is basically the clearest

28:42

indication we're going to get in terms

28:44

of the, you

28:46

know, who is the alternate for a key

28:48

position. And I think on

28:51

current form, it should be Watkins. But is this

28:53

really important? Because to me, I think it is

28:56

important for South because it's Southgate having to make

28:58

a clear cut decision. I think it's a big

29:00

decision. See your point. But the fact is Kane

29:03

is going to play in the Euros. There

29:05

are much bigger questions in terms of defense

29:08

and midfield, which I've got very little time

29:10

to work out. Okay. I would also

29:12

say if we come to a

29:14

situation in the summer where Harry Kane gets injured

29:16

and can't play a couple of games, my

29:19

first choice would be come home. And

29:23

in lieu of that, if

29:26

the latest tournament, sackers

29:29

not playing, Jim, who would you like

29:31

to see flanking Watkins or Tony? That

29:33

is a good question. Phil Foden presumably

29:35

would be one of them. Yeah, I

29:37

was hoping to see that front three

29:40

of Kane

29:42

in the middle, Saka on the right and Foden on the

29:44

left. So it'd be sad to see Foden on the right

29:46

because we know he can play there, but would presumably

29:49

in the tournament if everyone's feet start on

29:51

the left. So wouldn't mind

29:53

to see Jared Bowen given a go

29:55

there. And possibly Paul Palmer. I think

29:58

probably Palmer actually, because. I

30:00

think with Palmer, if you're going

30:02

to play him, you're going to have to shoehorn him in some

30:04

way at the moment. I mean, Palmer's

30:06

down as a midfielder. He is, but I

30:09

think his form demands inclusion. So actually, this is a

30:11

really good opportunity to get a look at him. James

30:14

Madison is obviously in there as well. Some people would love

30:16

to see him. I think Bowen would be played off the

30:18

right if he was going to play. You know when you

30:20

get a feeling about a player around here, I think there

30:23

are some players who, it doesn't matter what

30:25

they're doing for the club, whether they're playing well

30:27

or OK, they put on the national team jersey

30:29

and suddenly it really happens. I

30:32

wonder if Anthony Gordon might be someone like that. Even

30:34

though he's played very well for his club. No,

30:37

because he's a prominent player for New York. Not

30:39

the Verizon, Verizon's head, but do you know

30:41

what I mean? Do you think we could see Anthony

30:43

Gordon at some point? But Gordon has been really, really

30:45

good this season. Yes, no, no, again, I stress that

30:48

for club, I fight for that. He

30:50

feels to me like a bit of Southgate as well because

30:53

he's extremely useful when he hasn't got the

30:55

ball as well. He's an absolute pain in

30:57

the arse. Other players hate him and you

30:59

can see why. Not his team mates. They

31:02

like him, really. Yeah, you guessed so.

31:04

Now they like him. So

31:07

the other questions are, Joe Gomez has been

31:11

speaking quite a bit about his time when he was

31:14

previously in the England squad and obviously got that injury

31:16

and he's come back. And a player that I'd kind

31:18

of forgotten about, obviously there was that ruckus with Raheem

31:20

Stirling, but that seems like water under

31:22

the bridge, especially Stirling's not even there, but even if he was,

31:24

I don't think that would matter. A lot

31:26

of injuries. Could we see him starting

31:29

any of these? Because a number of

31:31

years ago, Stones and Gomez looked like the two for

31:33

England. Now you are going back a number of years

31:35

here, so perhaps it's not even worth saying that. I

31:38

think if we were to see Stones

31:40

maybe go into the midfield, whether that happens or

31:42

not, I think that Southgate has got Gomez as

31:44

a centre-half in mind, much more than a full

31:46

back, even though he's played full

31:49

back more for Liverpool. Perhaps you might disagree, though. Maybe.

31:53

I think if we're talking about pushing Stones

31:55

into midfield, we're getting into the area of

31:57

risk that maybe Southgate does.

32:00

fully embraced, like seeing it from his

32:02

perspective. So you think Gomez would be

32:04

cover them at the back? Yeah maybe.

32:06

Where though? I think in terms of

32:08

this, well I think you've got the

32:10

option, haven't you? I think to see

32:14

Gomez play and play well would

32:16

be, I think would be really

32:18

good for England because he's in

32:21

great form at the moment, he's in really great

32:23

form at the moment and I think with all

32:25

the defensive issues that England have

32:27

got in terms of form and fitness, getting

32:29

him in, making him feel

32:32

important and part of it, I think

32:34

he's really a key part of it. I think England

32:37

are playing Belgium of course on Tuesday, there is another game there.

32:39

And Belgium are no mugs,

32:41

I think we're all looking at Brazil thinking that's obviously the

32:44

glamorous one, which it is, but as I say Belgium is

32:46

not. Belgium are arguably better than Brazil at the moment. There

32:48

you go. There you go.

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morning. Good. Tell

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35:08

Welcome back to

35:10

the Football Rambled

35:13

everybody. Andy Brassell. Read

35:15

that email, damn you. I've got one from

35:17

Alex Lovelace here. It says, one for the

35:19

absolute football nerds like myself. Why am I

35:22

reading this out? I emailed a few years

35:24

ago providing a rare occurrence of Luke Moore

35:26

actually liking a listener's idea to change football.

35:28

A world cup for teams outside the top

35:30

100 in the world ranking. I wanted to

35:33

let you know that FIFA are actually doing

35:35

something kind of similar during the current international

35:37

break. This week sees

35:39

the FIFA series taking place

35:41

in various places around the world

35:43

for the first time with six mini

35:45

tournaments happening between a bunch of unfashionable

35:48

countries. Bring on Bolivia versus

35:50

Andorra as a Bajan versus Mongolia and

35:52

Guinea versus Vanuatu or sit with England

35:54

versus Brazil and Euro playoffs. But hey,

35:56

at least there's a few more options

35:58

for matches to watch this week. weekend

36:00

how about that yeah this is an interesting one FIFA

36:03

and the FIFA series is a

36:05

new competition designed to give national teams

36:07

more opportunities play against opponents from outside

36:09

their respective confederations so there's

36:11

24 national teams involved playing across five

36:13

different countries all six

36:16

federations are involved and

36:19

where the the host nations

36:21

are Algeria Azerbaijan Egypt Saudi Arabia a

36:23

Saudi Arabia B and Sri Lanka we

36:25

in Sri Lanka's group they've got Bhutan

36:27

she's not that far away but still

36:29

you know nice to have a bit

36:31

of local rivalry in there Central African

36:33

Republic and Papua New Guinea brilliant bring

36:35

him on it's like FIFA have looked

36:37

at the lower leagues of the UEFA

36:39

Nations League we want some of

36:41

that well did you think that the Egypt

36:44

one is quite tasty but Croatia Egypt New

36:46

Zealand and Tunisia it's a strange one that

36:48

I'm describing that as tasty I won't read the

36:51

other World Cup group but

36:53

it's just what the world

36:55

news more competitive international football more

36:57

competitive football well I find strange

36:59

the land in Saudi Arabia a

37:01

and Saudi Arabia B Saudi

37:04

Arabia aren't playing Cambodia

37:07

Cape Verde equatorial Guinea Ghana

37:10

but moved a but Brunei Guinea and

37:12

Venoa why was it there you know

37:14

why it's there because it can be

37:16

there I mean basically we can talk

37:18

about the the ties and the content

37:20

but it's not about any of that

37:22

this is just the FIFA

37:24

versus UEFA Willie waving contest

37:26

for which the general

37:28

public and the players are paying

37:30

the bill and is pretty disgusting

37:33

well was it it's not always

37:35

disgusting when you see two minnows

37:38

playing each other in a friendly Andy no

37:43

this isn't what we're talking about we're

37:45

talking about not the actual it's like

37:47

the Super League we're not talking about

37:49

the tournament itself we're talking about the

37:51

right to brand football the right to

37:53

own football and hell with

37:55

the consequences of the people who watch him play it

37:57

sure I was trying to segue to San Marino versus

37:59

sink it Okay, I'm sorry for shifting your

38:01

mouth. I'm not that

38:03

sorry. Yeah, Scentkits and Nevis this week,

38:05

yes. Despite going into the game as

38:07

favorites, Samareno lost. Oh,

38:11

everyone was really up for this. They thought there was

38:13

a big chance. 137 matches without a win now. They

38:17

do have another bite of the cherry. Again, Scentkits

38:19

and Nevis again. But they're the angers of the

38:22

football gods. I mean, they did all these interviews

38:24

and articles. Going, oh, we're gonna win for the

38:26

first time in 10 years. Silly. Why

38:28

would you do that? I'm a bit downy little

38:31

mug. I know, Samareno. Like, you just, you can't

38:33

possibly have any idea of what your level is,

38:35

right? No. And they've really fallen afoul

38:37

of that there. Yeah, very strange. They do, as

38:39

I say, they've got them again. So,

38:41

was that a rematch option? If we

38:43

lose, then we immediately trigger the rematch

38:46

option. I don't know. France

38:48

versus Germany, Saturday evening,

38:51

this summer's hosts are

38:53

traveling to Lyon to face France. I

38:56

think the interesting thing about France is not only

38:59

France and England quite difficult to separate

39:01

in terms of who's favorite for the

39:03

tournament, but a lot of the

39:05

personnel problems that England have,

39:07

similar to the personnel problems that France

39:10

have at the moment. I

39:12

just think that, so basically, we might as well

39:14

not analyze this. Let's just talk about Kane,

39:16

Bellingham, and Bapay and call it a day.

39:18

Yeah, well, I'm glad to hear you say

39:20

that because I always think about France. And

39:23

I mean, the World Cup was testament

39:25

to this, is that they have some

39:27

big players injured, and then they just

39:29

say, all right, okay, who's next? And they just kind of slot in.

39:32

His form as well. So, like,

39:34

Gareth Southgate always gets talked about

39:36

because of his conservatism. In

39:39

a similar way, Didier Deschamps, it's like all

39:41

international coaches, really. They're all conservative with a

39:43

small C to a certain extent. And he

39:45

doesn't really want to turn over. He wants

39:47

to be loyal to people. And he's got

39:49

his Harry McRae question, if you like, because

39:51

Diom and Mccano is really not having

39:53

a good season for Bayern.

39:55

They've got a lot of defensive

39:58

issues as well. So... They're

40:00

in a similar place. Having said that, Germany

40:05

really need to get their ducks in a row to

40:07

put even a decent display together. I

40:09

mean, they're not winning Euro 2024. They're

40:11

definitely not winning Euro 2024. They've written

40:13

off the Germans. Although, in recent

40:15

years, that's not as full as I can get.

40:18

But the Germans aren't the Germans. Definitely not with a capital

40:20

T and a capital G at the moment. No, I didn't

40:22

think they would be. No. Yeah. I...

40:25

Because that was a thing, wasn't it? Never write

40:27

off the Germans. But then, of course, you know...

40:29

But look what we're doing. It's on home soil.

40:31

They want to bring back the feel-good factor of

40:33

2006, the World Cup that they hosted there. Not

40:36

so much for their appointment in Jokie Klinsman's coach. They didn't

40:38

win that tournament, so Andy's point still stands. Yeah.

40:41

No, true. But they

40:44

are in a

40:46

set of doldrums that we've not seen Germany in

40:48

in our life. I think that's fair to say,

40:50

yeah. So I don't think... I think Germany

40:52

can have a successful tournament without winning it. Does that make

40:54

sense? Yeah, no, I think they need Euro 96 almost. No,

40:59

I think if they were to replicate

41:01

that sort of glorious failure of World

41:04

Cup 2006, everyone would be very happy with that. The

41:06

fish has got a smirk on his face. Well, I

41:08

was just... I mean, they did win

41:10

the Euro 96. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. I know

41:12

you meant from the Dean perspective, of course. Yeah, yeah.

41:16

I find it quite funny that Tony

41:18

Cruz has come back. Because I think the

41:20

players of that ilk, when they walk away, they walk

41:22

away like, thank you for all your service. My

41:24

work here is done. Yeah, all the things you've accomplished. And

41:26

the idea that they had to, you know, in some

41:28

way go back to him and be

41:31

like, but we've got nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

41:33

You've left a chasm that actually is your

41:35

fault. Yeah. And you have to come

41:37

back and film it. Yeah. So... Stefan Efenberg's on the phone.

41:42

Yeah, he's probably still banned, isn't he? I would think

41:44

so. Yeah. Jurgen, could you please... Everyone say, I

41:46

hope so. Jurgen, turn on the video

41:48

and you zoom for fuck's sake. One

41:52

of the other problems for Germany is that there's

41:54

been some criticism of their new Pink Awake kit,

41:57

which was revealed last week. Uli Hurnis.

42:00

Has had his say on this. He

42:02

said all these things are nonsense They can even

42:04

play with a naked torso and something painted on

42:08

Something very very liberal vague. Yeah.

42:10

Yeah Yeah, a

42:12

pink away kit is that would be Germany's equivalent

42:14

of what we spoke about in the yeah I

42:16

think in the England case. I think it's quite

42:19

nice. Yeah It's

42:21

a color. Yeah Colors

42:23

well Jim don't get me started on

42:26

pink You know what I

42:28

mean? Let's literally it's why the acceptable colors now

42:30

all of them You

42:33

would say that yeah, yeah not

42:36

at once email in if you've got Give

42:39

us a color we can tell if it's

42:41

actually the color you blow Yeah, I mean

42:43

obviously Germany are enamored it with it enough

42:46

that they announced Yesterday that

42:48

they're defecting from adidas to Nike. Oh

42:53

The Advert for

42:55

the Germany kit is brilliant though because it kind of

42:57

riffs on the typical. Oh, this is a typical German

42:59

kit And I'm the whole Now

43:03

typical Germany that are actually a typical Germany that kind

43:05

of stuff is brilliant. Yeah. Well, let's turn our attention

43:07

to France because

43:11

The around we said this week about killing him

43:13

back pay and Bappi has already surpassed my legacy

43:16

But Antoine Griezmann or Griezmann should I say

43:18

is by far the most underrated player

43:20

ever Ever is

43:22

big isn't it? But I he's very under

43:24

he is my favorite non Vardy footballer Yep,

43:28

Antoine Griezmann. He's brilliant to watch and he

43:30

scores loads of gold. He's you know, he's

43:33

been very successful But

43:35

I think honorees right, you know, I don't think he's

43:37

kind of put in the top bracket of World

43:40

footballers very often and he absolutely belongs there I

43:43

was gonna throw this to you andy because the

43:45

thing I've been confused about recently is why France

43:48

are in Maybe it comes from you know,

43:51

what's happened in the last couple of tournaments,

43:53

but I don't understand why suddenly French football

43:55

is having this legacy conversation

43:57

about these players like what is

43:59

it Because like someone like Griezmann is coming to the end

44:01

of his career or generally the generation's about

44:04

to move on. It's because I think it's as

44:06

simple as the fact you've got three at the

44:08

top of the top scorers list of all time.

44:10

So you've got Olivier Giroud and

44:12

they're all buzzing around Thierry Henri,

44:14

of course. Griezmann could

44:17

go up there for a little bit and

44:19

you know that Mbappe is going to go

44:21

past everyone all in time.

44:23

So it's very unusual to have an

44:25

all time top scorers list for a

44:28

nation where it's keenly contested

44:30

by three players at the same

44:32

time, all sort of moving around one

44:34

of the absolute legends of the French game who's still very

44:36

much a presence because of course he's France under 21 manager.

44:39

So what about on ITC? So we're

44:41

basically not too far away from

44:43

a LeBron Michael Jordan situation where

44:45

they will surpass it unequivocally and

44:47

then Henri will bring out the documentary. So

44:50

they're going to be like oh and actually he

44:52

was the best. Exactly. Right gentlemen,

44:54

I want to turn our attention to Scotland. They travel

44:57

to the Netherlands. They're playing this

44:59

evening. Now we've got

45:01

to know this 41 year old goalkeeper Craig Gordon

45:03

has been recalled to the squad. He's not appeared

45:06

for Scotland since November 2022. It's

45:09

Pepe-esque. Yeah, he's not going to play that, is he?

45:12

Yeah, that's true. Pepe was involved in Portugal's 5-2 demolition

45:14

of Sweden last night. I don't know if something was

45:16

nice to have an older head in there. Wouldn't

45:18

you say Andy? Oh well, especially if it was

45:20

Pepe's head. How

45:22

are the Netherlands looking, brass man? All

45:25

right, but the interesting thing

45:27

is the return of Memphis De Pi.

45:30

It's always interesting. Did

45:32

you see the coat he was wearing? Because

45:35

when they came back into the Dutch

45:37

camp they had the new

45:39

kit and a briefcase and they

45:41

were all looking through it and he's wearing the

45:44

most outstanding brown leather coat. It's

45:47

remarkably good. Obviously it's not

45:49

the most controversial thing he's done this

45:51

week with his public support for convicted

45:54

drug smuggler Quincy Promise.

45:56

Blimey, blimey. To

45:58

give Memphis De Pi a fair air con... crack of the whip though

46:01

he did score a crucial goal for atletico Madrid in their

46:03

advancement in the champion league. I tell you what he looks

46:05

buff at the moment doesn't he? When does he not? I

46:08

think it's because he's one of those players

46:10

who's been out injured for quite a long

46:12

time he's clearly spent all of that time

46:14

in the gym. You know when a player

46:16

is out injured quite a lot and it

46:18

has a weirdly transformative effect on them a

46:20

little bit like a little bit like a

46:22

Nicola Taniola for example. He's always had a

46:24

bit of a sort of gree-lishy thighs hasn't

46:26

he? Yeah that's true. That's true. Because

46:29

he always wears really short shorts.

46:32

He's really proud of them. He's got tattoos on his

46:34

legs isn't he? Everywhere.

46:36

He's got a very cute dog as well. If Riccardo

46:39

Correas and my members had a fight Andy who would

46:41

you cheer on? Oh good

46:43

one. Is it a

46:45

free kick fight? No it's a fight to

46:47

win my heart. Yeah

46:51

exactly who would you want to win your heart? Oh Riccardo

46:53

100% yeah. Oh right I thought men kicked the head. I

46:55

thought men kicked the head with the outside of the boat.

46:58

A knockout. Yeah

47:00

that would be it wouldn't it. Well

47:03

okay so what was Scotland in their

47:05

sort of current trajectory would you

47:07

fancy them to cause it? It would be an upset of course

47:09

against the Netherlands. Win less in five. So

47:12

yeah I forgot about that bit of

47:14

the trajectory. That's

47:17

good to point out. But no I mean

47:19

they're in a fairly sort of good moment. This is a good

47:21

chance for them to test themselves against the better side. Now

47:25

Ronald Coonman celebrated his

47:27

61st birthday yesterday which

47:29

is lovely I think we can all agree. He

47:32

said the players sang to me and gave me a nice cap. They

47:34

obviously think that I'm at an age where I need

47:36

to keep my head warm. If I could have a

47:38

perfect late present it would be the Euros on July

47:40

the 14th. But

47:43

he's very late. Him saying he's going to

47:45

win the Euros. Dore Valjulio saying Bazzilla going

47:47

to win the World Cup. What

47:50

are these guys drinking this week? Well I don't

47:52

know Andy but if your birthday is in March

47:55

mid July the people have forgotten your birthday. Also

47:58

like wishing someone happy new year now.

48:00

Yeah, yeah With with what

48:02

footballers earn they had a whip around and they got him a

48:04

cap But you but it

48:06

could have been a gold cap. I Didn't

48:09

think of that I didn't think of the gold cap.

48:12

Yeah, I'll get back in my box FM

48:15

kind of business. Yeah, exactly. I think that they

48:17

basically will go they all arriving from around the

48:19

country All

48:22

into the same airport and then I fucking know we forgot I

48:27

don't know. I think happened a Tobler and he goes

48:29

Yeah, but they love a cap in international football. So

48:31

they're just you know, channelling that kind of spirit only

48:33

Right, so it's lying around. Yeah Grab

48:37

anything this looks like it's a commemorative cap

48:39

of the 1974 We

48:41

wear it on the touchline like Jack Charlton at USA 94 maybe

48:44

you'll be wearing it so that they don't get

48:46

offended They he doesn't like the present When

48:49

you get something from someone you only wear it when they're around

48:52

I Right

48:54

before we get to the Ramble Acre

48:56

Jim So you've got an email in your

48:58

head. I do have an email in my hand and it's an

49:00

important update on matters happening

49:03

State side from McCain Williams. He

49:05

says hello Ramblers specifically Marcus You'll

49:07

see why with European Club football

49:10

on international break I want to bring to

49:12

light some news from US Club football Oh

49:14

the US Open Cup has started back up

49:16

this season with a bit of controversy MLS

49:18

decided to only send a handful of first

49:20

teams to the tournament despite it being an

49:22

American footballing tradition that started in 1914

49:26

and instead send their development teams for

49:29

example Portland Timbers to plot

49:32

figures on

49:34

Tuesday night Portland Timbers to Harvey

49:38

Neville in the starting 11 Yeah Harvey

49:41

was sent off for a second yellow

49:43

in the 53rd minute and Portland Timbers

49:45

to lost to one to El Farolito

49:47

SC an amateur team from San Francisco

49:50

who are named who are

49:52

named after a popular burrito restaurant Hello

49:54

in the area would be like if

49:56

Spurs under 21 has lost to Nando's

50:00

This is incredible. I've looked into El

50:02

Farolito FC a little bit as I'm

50:04

sure we all have if we've done

50:06

our own work. Yeah. And they are

50:08

essentially an amateur team. And they train a couple of

50:10

times a week. Sometimes they can't

50:12

train exactly as they want to because they

50:15

get to the place of hide and someone

50:17

else is there. They travel around from all

50:19

over the place, train after work. But they

50:21

really, really put the work in. And they've

50:24

been handed a little bit of a present by El Fiza Jr.

50:27

He's probably jet lagged. You know what

50:29

I mean? Yeah. Time distance from, you

50:32

know, not distance from time zones

50:34

from Miami to up in the

50:36

northwest. It's a hike, isn't it? It really is,

50:38

Andy. They've shoved him in there. I think it's a bit

50:40

unfair. Apparently the El Farolito bench were chucking balls onto the

50:42

pits towards the end of the game to eat over a

50:44

bit of time. Amazing! Not

50:48

burritos. It's Joe's and really

50:50

the manager. Well, they respect the burrito. They're not

50:52

going to throw it on. You know the funny

50:54

thing is, a burrito restaurant would probably indulge in

50:56

less nepotism than Portland's. Come

50:59

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51:01

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51:44

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51:54

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51:56

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51:58

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52:01

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52:03

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52:05

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52:08

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52:10

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52:12

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52:15

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52:17

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52:19

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52:22

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52:25

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53:07

...also called the Encyclopedia of Football. Oh,

53:11

what? The Encyclopedia of

53:13

Football. I don't know

53:15

what that means. Well, I do, Jack. It's

53:17

now time for Jack's Encyclopedia. I'm hosting. It's

53:20

not a title bout, but it's an important

53:22

league match between Jim, Vish and Andy. Pointless.

53:24

Absolutely pointless. You're

53:27

not pointless. You're very much in the running for

53:29

the championship. But of course, the hero of the

53:31

day, Luke Moore, is not here. So

53:34

it's a chance for somebody to gain some

53:36

ground in the league on me. Right. You

53:39

all know the rules. Jack's

53:41

Encyclopedia is a game of categories. If you're

53:43

too slow, Gary Neville will come. Now,

53:46

it's a pleasure to welcome Vish

53:48

back to the... It's

53:54

Torres! There you go,

53:56

in case you're new to this. And

54:00

if you're new to this, very welcome and thank you for lasting so

54:02

long. Unlike Gary Neville. So... The

54:05

first... Stop talking about him orgasming. No,

54:07

I won't. Honestly, always. I thought

54:10

I'd start the week with him. Do

54:12

you remember Fizzer on the beach? Fizzer.

54:15

Fizzer, more like... OK, Vish,

54:18

you're back in the Jackson Cyclopedia Arena.

54:20

How do you feel? Fine. Orgasmic,

54:23

I should think so. First category, Andy Brussels,

54:25

I want you to start first. So get

54:27

your thinking caps on. First category. It's a

54:29

lovely one and I'm gutted not to be involved. The

54:32

22 players that started for

54:34

both sides in England's last

54:36

win over Brazil, it ended

54:38

2-1 back in February 2013

54:40

to mark the 150th anniversary

54:42

of the Football Association. Andy

54:45

Brussels, off you go. Harry Kane. It's

54:50

a bad start. It's a bad start for Brussels. Way

54:53

too early for Harry Kane. There's

54:55

a clue. Harry Kane's not involved. Wayne

54:58

Moody. Course he was. Last

55:01

win over Brazil is the question. 2013,

55:03

Jim. 2-1 England, come on. Oh, God, I've

55:05

written down a load of plays that probably weren't involved. Joe

55:08

Hart. Love that. Frank

55:16

Lampard. Frankie Lampard,

55:19

he's our mate. Did not play,

55:21

did not play. We

55:23

didn't start. Neymar. Is

55:27

Neymar the winning answer? If this

55:29

round it is, Jim gets the

55:31

point. You could have had that.

55:33

What a round. Adriana Carré, Ashley

55:36

Cole, Chris Smalling, Danny Alves, Danny

55:38

Welbeck, Dante, David Luiz, Gary Cahill,

55:40

Glenn Johnson, Jack Wilshire, Julio Cesar,

55:42

Luis Fabiano, Oscar, Paulinho, Ramirez, Jonell

55:44

Gino, Steven Gerrard, Theo Walker or Tom Cleverly.

55:47

Steven Gerrard. A lot of guess. I'll tell

55:49

you what, I'd love to see Gary Cahill

55:51

play. I bet you would. You

55:53

dirty little sausage. Right, Vish, you're up first.

55:56

Now, Coby

55:58

Maynooth was of course. called up this week,

56:00

he's 18 years old. But which

56:03

England players have made their debuts 18

56:05

years or younger? 20 answers and again I'm gutted

56:07

I'm not involved although I did lose on England

56:10

the other week. Wayne

56:12

Rooney. Second youngest, 17

56:14

years and three months, Jim

56:16

Campbell. It's

56:22

really obvious when you've got the answers in front of you. I

56:24

bet it is, yeah. It's one I'm hovering around but I think

56:26

it might be a sort of red herring in my own mind.

56:28

It's Torres holding it home. Well I'm going to

56:31

say it. Theo

56:33

Walcott. Youngest.

56:37

Wow. Yeah. Andy. So

56:40

made their debut at 18. Specific. Made

56:42

their debut 18 years or younger. 18

56:44

or younger, okay. It's

56:49

Torres holding it. Billy Wright. Who? Billy

56:52

Wright. Billy Wright. Mmmmm. Fair

56:56

guess but a wrong one. Vitution.

56:59

Michael Owen. Michael

57:01

Owen's a good answer. An obvious answer but a good

57:03

one. Jim

57:07

Campbell. You need Vish to win Andy. Okay. So

57:11

get behind him. Andy wants Jim to win.

57:14

Jim Campbell. Should be really obvious shouldn't it.

57:16

I'm sure there's, I'm going to go for

57:18

Gary Neville. Gary Neville.

57:21

Odd choice, very odd choice. I don't think it is

57:23

an odd choice. He's not a very young. Not young

57:25

enough though. Vish has the point. Yeah. Let

57:28

me go through them. Alex Oxlade-Chameland. Arthur Brown. Colm

57:31

Hudson. Adoy. Clement

57:33

Mitchell. Duncan Edwards. Jack Wilshire.

57:35

Jayden Sancho. James Principe. Jimmy

57:38

Brown. Jude Bellingham. Luke Shaw.

57:41

Marcus Rashford. Mason Greenwood. Micah

57:43

Richards. Raheem Sterling. Rico

57:45

Lewis. And Tot Rostron. Known as Tot because he

57:47

was 5'6". Easy when you've got

57:49

the answers in front of you ladies. There's only a few of

57:51

those I'm kicking myself over to be honest. Ah

57:54

look, it's a tough old game. People don't understand what it's

57:56

like when you're in the chair. Right,

57:58

it's Jim 1. Vishwan and

58:01

in Atlanta you need this to

58:03

go to the tiebreaker and I think you

58:05

can get it. You're up first.

58:07

Yes! Give me the host cities not

58:11

for the Euros but for

58:13

World Cup 2026. New York.

58:17

New York, New Jersey give you that. Los Angeles.

58:20

Los Angeles the city of

58:22

angels. Philadelphia. Philadelphia you can

58:24

spread it on the bread. Mexico

58:29

City. Mexico City of

58:32

course. Monterey. Monterey bit

58:35

of cheese. Kansas.

58:39

Kansas. City. I think

58:41

it's Kansas as a state my friend. Yeah but

58:43

you asked for the city. I did not the

58:45

state. People will

58:48

think I've been leaning there but I'm watching you. Toronto.

58:50

Toronto yep. Doing

58:53

very well here chaps. One

59:02

of two. Boston. Malston.

59:06

Having a tea party. Washington DC.

59:09

Washington DC as if the politics

59:11

would want them there. direct

59:14

Jim Campbell. Seattle.

59:18

Seattle. He's got it and he sustained

59:20

the game and denied Jim a big

59:22

win. That's very good. Montreal.

59:32

Montreal. Jim

59:36

Campbell. And

59:39

because he's not here we finally got a winner

59:41

who's not Luke Moore. So

59:45

you could have had Atlanta home of the

59:47

Olympic Games of course. Dallas.

59:50

Guadalajara. Thought someone was gonna go for Guadalajara.

59:53

Houston. You thought someone was going to go

59:55

for Guadalajara. Yeah because it's Mexico City and

59:57

Guadalajara are the two famous venues. Yeah,

1:00:00

okay, fine. Washington DC, not a famous

1:00:02

city in America then. Not when it comes to

1:00:04

football, dickhead. They have a football

1:00:06

team. Houston, where,

1:00:08

unlike Vish, they don't have a problem.

1:00:11

Miami, the home of football, and

1:00:13

San Francisco. There

1:00:16

we are, everybody. San Francisco, the home of

1:00:19

football, yeah. And also in there, the place

1:00:21

where Bon Jovi recorded Slippery When Wet, Vancouver.

1:00:23

How would we forget that? Jim is the

1:00:25

winner, Vish is the loser. Andy,

1:00:27

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