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1:49

it's a game of opinions, but

1:51

does anyone disagree that Jude Bellingham

1:53

is one of world football's brightest

1:55

young stars? It was the Galactico's

1:57

goal that secured England a Desmond

2:00

saw at Wembley last night

2:02

after a scruffy showing from

2:04

Southgate's side against Belgium. So

2:06

now the time to impress is

2:08

over. Who is on the plane

2:10

for the three Lions heading to

2:12

Germany this summer? We'll make our

2:15

picks for Southgate's 23-man squad on

2:17

today's podcast. So welcome to Football

2:19

Social Daily. My name's Niall and

2:21

these two are Joel Tudor and

2:23

Marley Anderson. Good morning boys. I

2:25

think I'm being kind by using

2:27

the word scruffy to describe England's

2:29

performance last night. I could have

2:31

used shocking. The defending for the two

2:33

Belgium goals was comical.

2:35

It was embarrassing. I don't even know

2:37

where to start other than Lewis Dunk.

2:40

I mean, Jesus Christ. I mean,

2:42

no pun intended but Dunk can get in the

2:44

sea. Dunk, yes, Dunk can

2:46

go for a Dunk. I mean, I've

2:48

long said, honestly, like I'm glad

2:50

we didn't do this, this sort of, we

2:53

didn't cover this a week ago because I

2:55

would have had Lewis Dunk starting for England

2:58

alongside John Stones. I think he's

3:00

that, honestly, I think he's absolutely class and

3:02

he gets two friendly games against Belgium and Brazil

3:04

and makes how many mistakes? I mean, he makes

3:07

two mistakes that lead to goals. Uncomfortable

3:09

on the ball. His passing is

3:11

usually good like through the Lions type of

3:14

stuff. He was hitting like men

3:16

five yards away and they were getting blocked and all

3:18

sorts. He looked just a

3:20

shadow of himself and then he

3:23

makes the mistake for T Lomond's second

3:25

goal as well. It was just a

3:28

performance that played him out of contention for a

3:30

start and possibly a place on the plane. You

3:32

never know but, yeah,

3:34

just awful, awful defending

3:37

and yeah, not what you

3:39

need two months out from the end of

3:41

the season and when the picks get made.

3:44

England drew 2-2 with Belgium at Wembley last

3:46

night and as Marley says, mistakes were

3:49

the reason for both of Belgium's goals,

3:51

both scored by Aston Villa midfielder, Urie

3:54

T Lomond's. The second, though, you have to say,

3:56

is a really good ball from Lukaku. I know

3:58

he capitalises on Dunk's mistake. but the

4:00

Travela, I think with his weaker foot was it? I'm not sure,

4:03

maybe it was with his left or... No, it was with his

4:05

good foot. It was with his good foot. If

4:08

it was with his right foot it would have come out for a throw-in. It

4:10

would have ended up in Wicomwanda as scrounge or something.

4:14

But yeah, a good ball

4:16

from the car, you have to say.

4:18

Why do you think that is Joel?

4:21

That Lewis Dunk, as Marley says, can

4:23

compete in the high-optane, fast-paced environment of

4:25

the Premier League and yet when

4:27

it comes to a slower pace to fare

4:29

at Wembley, albeit against good players, Belgium are a

4:31

good side and so are Brazil, he just looks

4:34

completely all at sea. I mean,

4:36

what player has left that Brighton bubble

4:38

and actually looked good? Apart

4:41

from maybe Leandro Trossard, but I think that's

4:43

because Arsenal benefit him even more. Every time

4:45

I've seen a Brighton player leave I've never

4:47

been as impressed with them. It just seems

4:49

like that is such a

4:51

specialised system, especially for Dunk,

4:54

to play the way he plays under Deserbe.

4:56

Then the minute he goes into a new

4:58

structure, the minute any Brighton player goes into

5:00

a new structure like Moises C Aiseido, they

5:03

look half the player and I don't know if

5:05

it's because they're just so exposed or they're just

5:07

getting used to such a completely 180 of

5:10

a system that they suddenly get exposed and

5:12

I can imagine playing for England is a

5:14

different kind of pressure as well prior to

5:16

a major tournament but I just wasn't impressed

5:18

with him at all and I think in

5:21

these kinds of friendlies you've got

5:23

to look like you are so confident and

5:25

so assured at the back because can

5:27

you remember the amount of times in previous tournaments

5:29

gone by where the defence has let us down

5:32

or just simple errors which should have

5:35

been completely avoided. So yeah,

5:37

I think it's honestly just like the

5:39

Brighton curve. Even when you look

5:41

at the managers, Graham Potterly is Brighton and suddenly

5:44

he's out of a job for about a year and a half,

5:46

it just seems like as soon as you leave there, that's it.

5:48

You have to kind of pick

5:51

the next right move very, very precisely but I mean

5:53

for Dunk unfortunately you can't do that because you can't

5:55

change your nationality so it's a shame because like Marley

5:57

said he's not really put a foot wrong in the

6:00

Premier League and not really put a foot

6:02

wrong for England whenever he's got the chance but when

6:05

it comes to England Southgate's been renowned

6:07

for picking players who he trusts regardless

6:09

of league form and if you're not

6:11

going to do it for England in these

6:14

types of games unfortunately I don't think it's

6:16

going to go well for you when it

6:18

comes to the actual tournaments itself. Well England

6:20

beaten against Brazil but drawing against Belgium we

6:22

often say don't we Miley that these March

6:25

friendlies and you mentioned this a few days

6:27

ago on Football Social Daily they don't always

6:29

give the clearest indication of how a team

6:31

might fare going into a tournament because it

6:33

is the end of the season where bodies

6:36

are starting to break down players are beginning to

6:38

creak managers of the Premier League clubs are maybe

6:40

withholding their players to make sure they don't get

6:43

injured one of those players that did get injured

6:45

last night was John Stones but he wasn't the

6:47

only one Harry Kane wasn't available

6:49

I don't think Kyle Walker played Saka

6:51

wasn't there so you're talking a

6:54

good chunk of England's best players

6:56

weren't available for these last two games.

6:59

Yeah and I'd be absolutely furious

7:01

if I was a Man City

7:03

final or Pep

7:05

Guardiola because their next game is against

7:07

Arsenal it's a huge

7:09

huge game in the title race John Stones

7:11

plays ten minutes of England against Belgium and

7:13

comes off with some

7:15

sort of injury Southgate's now trying

7:17

to hide behind it other

7:20

countries doing the same like Holland played

7:22

Aque for the same amount of minutes

7:26

I think he mentioned Norway mentioning Odegaard and

7:28

Holland got the same amount of minutes as

7:30

John Stones did. John

7:32

Stones is an injury prone centre back he

7:35

gets injured all the time I think the

7:37

last time looking through stats before

7:39

and the most ever games he's played in

7:41

the season for Man City

7:43

is 27 seven years ago so

7:45

he missed ten games then and

7:47

then from there he's played 18 24 16 22 14. In the league

7:49

in the Premier

7:52

League? Yeah that's in the league so he's missing

7:54

at least ten games a season through you know

7:57

you know him he's 20 28 years old He's

8:00

always struggled with injuries, specifically

8:02

muscle injuries, because he's not

8:05

your normal quarterback, he's fighting, isn't he? He's

8:08

decent with the ball at his feet. So he gets

8:11

different types of injuries than Harry Maguire, who needs to

8:14

run into a lamppost to get injured

8:16

or something like that. Harry Maguire's like

8:18

that Mr Bump with a bandit around

8:20

his head. Exactly. You

8:24

know how to look after him, you've almost got to wrap

8:26

him in cotton wool and you don't stick him in a

8:28

pointless friendly against Belgium. You know everything

8:30

you need to know about John Stones

8:32

before you're playing in a friendly two

8:34

months out from the Euros against

8:37

Belgium where the game means nothing.

8:40

Jared Brantford sat on the bench for two games in a row. He

8:43

would have learnt so much from being a part of England to

8:45

set up just

8:47

being around the team, but he would have learnt so much more if you

8:50

put him on the bloody pitch. Same with Cole

8:52

Palmer, sat on the bench for two games. I

8:56

get Ben White's issue

8:58

now with England, it's not all it's

9:00

cracked up to be. If you go

9:02

on an international camp away from your

9:04

club where you could do with the

9:06

rest, for example like March when you've

9:08

played however many 20

9:11

games since January,

9:14

the chance to go to England is

9:17

huge, but then if you sat on

9:19

the bench you've just wasted your time really.

9:21

Jared Brantford hasn't done anything. Cole Palmer has

9:23

just joined in a few training sessions and

9:26

that's it. So what more

9:28

can they do to get an England squad than do

9:30

what they've already done? You know

9:32

you see Lewis Dunst playing and he has a

9:34

sugar, he gets picked again for the building game,

9:36

he has another sugar. Brantford sat there

9:38

like, well come on like,

9:40

surely I will get a chance

9:42

now. And then as you say

9:45

it becomes a risk to put Brantford in

9:47

the 23 man squad if he's not played

9:49

a game for England before a major tournament.

9:51

That is a huge risk. Exactly, exactly.

9:53

So, I don't know,

9:56

there's always a lot of questions that

9:58

come out. around

10:01

Southgate selection always even

10:03

in the 23 that he picks and then in the

10:06

games the plays he picks in the

10:08

games it's just there's a

10:10

lot of questions to be answered. Change your

10:12

mind on Coby Maynew from Monday? Man of the

10:14

match may I add? I think his quality but

10:18

Joel's highlighted one turn he did

10:20

against Brazil and I was like okay but

10:22

it was great last night I love I

10:24

love the way he carries the ball it's really

10:26

really... Joel's giving it the Hulk Hogan by the way you

10:28

won't be able to see this but he's

10:31

giving it the old ear cup. It's not

10:33

the Hulk Hogan it's Mourinho when he went

10:35

back to Juventus and he was like United.

10:37

It's absolutely fine like he was brilliant last

10:39

night he was very very good but he's

10:41

still 18 and he still only played 14

10:43

Premier League matches that doesn't change. Is that

10:45

fewer than Brent Wight who didn't get a

10:47

chance? I'd say it's about that. Quality rise

10:49

to the top Marley and like I said

10:51

from the last game in Brazil I know

10:53

I mentioned he was... Man United privilege. I

10:55

know he mentioned that he was good against Brazil.

10:57

Salkay clearly wants that Man United job because he's

10:59

been linked in the newspapers again this morning. I

11:02

hope he drops Maynew. He had to

11:04

back it up from the Brazil cameo and

11:07

for an 18 year old to come to

11:09

the England midfield and look very composed and

11:11

assured he's giving himself huge credit in the

11:13

bank before the the Euro squad unfortunately

11:15

for you Marley. I want

11:17

him to go I'd pick him I'd start I

11:19

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League podcast. Of course we are head

12:47

first into the international break at the

12:49

moment. Premier League football does return this

12:51

weekend but England last night drew 2-2

12:53

with Belgium in one of two games

12:55

during this final international break before the

12:57

Euros in the summer. There will be

12:59

a couple of friendlies, you'd imagine, a

13:01

few pre-tournament friendlies before the tournament kicks

13:03

off in Germany but now we're

13:06

gonna do what Gareth Southgate will have to do pretty

13:08

soon and that's select a 23-man squad to be

13:11

on the plane for that trip to

13:13

Germany. Let's start in goal. I

13:15

think we can all agree whether you think

13:17

he's any good or not that Jordan Pickford

13:19

is England's first choice goalkeeper. He will be

13:21

on the plane. We saw in

13:24

the most recent England squad that the

13:26

two supplement keepers, if you will, Aaron

13:28

Ramsdale and Sam

13:30

Johnston. It doesn't fill

13:32

me with great confidence because it just takes me

13:34

back to the World Cup in 2010

13:37

when Rob Green made that howler and then

13:39

it fell to David James to come in

13:42

and gosh he got absolutely demolished by that

13:45

German side didn't he in the last 16.

13:47

I think James should

13:49

have started from the beginning I'm not gonna lie

13:51

I know he was for us and I know

13:53

we had just been relegated but he was unbelievable

13:55

for Portsmouth that season, unbelievable better than Rob Green

13:57

was for Norwich. Was it Norwich? Yeah. Yeah,

14:00

I mean that was an era where England keepers were a

14:02

little bit, they were the weak point of the

14:04

England team you would say. On this one,

14:06

I mean if you didn't watch yesterday's game you would

14:08

say 100% pickford after the earth,

14:11

basically gifting Belgium the first

14:13

goal. But yeah, you just

14:15

have to really, really hope that between now and

14:17

the end of the season and

14:20

within the first group games of the

14:22

Euros that nothing happens to him because

14:24

the drop-off is really, really considerable and

14:26

the fact that Southgate has not given

14:28

any chances to those reserve keepers tells

14:31

me his eggs are all in

14:33

the pickford basket so I really hope that he

14:35

can be looked after in the

14:37

next couple of months. In fairness to pickford,

14:39

people do say he's never let England down

14:41

and he hasn't, not in a major tournament

14:43

anyway. We all know that Jordan Pickford does

14:45

have an error in him but then again so does every

14:47

goalkeeper. You want them to be made

14:49

in a meaningless friendly, even if

14:52

it is against a nation

14:54

like Brazil or a nation like Belgium. At least

14:56

he's making his mistakes there and not

14:58

at the tournament in the summer. That's

15:00

goalkeepers. Let's move on to

15:02

defenders. This is difficult. There

15:04

are some players that you can just

15:07

tell that Southgate will pick, much like

15:09

Jordan Pickford in that goalkeeper

15:11

position. Harry Maguire is one of those that even

15:13

though he hasn't played as regularly for Manchester United

15:16

over the last 18 months to two years

15:18

as he has in previous

15:20

seasons where he was crucial

15:22

to both United and England. He's

15:24

still very much someone who Southgate

15:26

looks towards when he's picking centre

15:28

backs Joel. So Maguire will

15:30

be on the plane. We've already discussed how

15:32

we think Dunk has possibly played himself out

15:34

of contention. Esri Concer is someone

15:37

who was involved in this

15:39

most recent England squad. John

15:41

Stones is now injured but will he

15:43

be fit. Which centre backs, because

15:45

I think full backs is a completely different equation

15:47

which we'll come on to, but which centre backs

15:49

are on the plane? I think

15:51

John Stones and Maguire are the favourite two, aren't

15:54

they? The

15:56

other two, honestly, I think is really up in

15:58

the air in terms of selection. because I know

16:01

Jarrub Brantway didn't really get any game

16:04

time. Levi Colwell's another one who I'm

16:06

not really confident he'll get on the

16:08

playing contest, another one. I

16:11

do like Gay anytime I've seen him play.

16:13

I do think he's really calm and pretty

16:15

confident. Is that where England elitist then in

16:17

centre back? Because let's transition it onto full

16:19

back. Sloot Shaw is someone who's injured for

16:22

Manchester United at the moment, didn't make the

16:24

latest England squad because of that, is

16:26

a left back, but can also play centre back. We've

16:29

seen him do that a few times, deputise

16:32

in that left centre half position. So that's

16:34

something he could do potentially as an option.

16:36

Yeah, 100%. I think the need

16:38

for adaptability in his England squad, especially in

16:40

the fence is actually going to be really

16:42

important because it might be the case that

16:45

Southgate reverse back to that three man defence

16:47

potentially that he did in 2018, which

16:50

I kind of doubt because he's been really insistent

16:52

with the 4-3-3 and the 4-2-3-1. Even

16:56

Kyle Walker when he was in that formation with

16:58

the three-beef, can he come in as the right

17:00

centre back? But yeah, honestly, I

17:02

would take a crooked Luke Shaw over Ben Chilwell,

17:04

I'd say. Experience, I

17:07

think he's basically England

17:09

captain. And when Maguire's in

17:11

play, I think he gets the armband.

17:15

Maybe if Henderson was not playing as well,

17:17

but yeah, he's definitely on the plane. Is

17:20

Trent Alexander-Arnold on the plane? And I know

17:22

maybe we're jumping the gun into midfielders here,

17:24

which we'll touch upon in a sec. If

17:27

England are struggling for full backs, and

17:29

I know Southgate likes to play Trent in midfield,

17:31

but if England are struggling for full backs again,

17:34

you've got someone who can play in two

17:36

different positions there. Yeah, I

17:38

think so. I think we're pretty light

17:40

in midfield. You've played

17:42

with Duck before and the moving Trent

17:45

up there into the midfield three. So

17:49

question marks over what games he could do it in

17:51

and whether he looks top

17:53

class against better opposition. It would have

17:55

been interesting, actually, to see him against

17:57

Belgium and Brazil in that middle.

18:00

middle third rather than at right back but obviously

18:03

he's got his injury worries and stuff and didn't

18:05

didn't fancy the call

18:07

up so

18:11

I think he definitely goes but where

18:13

he plays I'm not sure I can't see it being

18:15

at right back because he's picked

18:18

Walker and Trippier over at

18:20

right back as well and even if Rees James comes

18:22

back I'd probably say he would go slightly

18:25

ahead of him in terms of right

18:28

back over midfield I think what's

18:30

really interesting and this is a bit of a

18:32

side note here Joel, are England

18:35

a stronger squad, a stronger side than

18:37

they were three years ago in the

18:40

Euros final? Because I think they've seen

18:42

players come through that have improved, Erlingham

18:44

a prime example, we've seen

18:47

Phil Thoden step up another level

18:49

again, Sacker has become Arsenal's most

18:51

important player so you look

18:53

at those players and you think yes England have

18:55

improved but also you look in other areas and

18:57

I wonder whether they are as strong because of

18:59

the amount of injuries we know Rees James is

19:01

a great player we know Ben Chilwell is a

19:03

really good player on his day but

19:05

they're just always injured, Marley mentioned it

19:08

with John Stones, injured these

19:10

are players that are so important to England in

19:13

terms of a fully fit squad if you're picking

19:15

the best England 11 if

19:17

you categorise each part of the squad I think in

19:19

terms of the midfield this is probably one of the

19:21

best midfielders we've had in quite a long time I

19:24

mean looking at Jude Bellingham, Declan Rice,

19:27

Mayneu, Foden if you

19:29

want to put him in that mould I

19:32

mean they are supremely talented together considering in

19:34

the last tournaments we've had Jordan Henderson and

19:36

Calvin Phillips and a Declan Rice

19:38

just kind of sliding in there obviously not as

19:40

good as he is right now 100% I

19:43

think we've improved massively in that department but in

19:45

terms of the defence I probably felt

19:48

more assured going into the 2018

19:50

World Cup with the defence that

19:52

we had rather than this one at

19:54

the moment it's just because I was just looking at all

19:56

the picks and every single pick that we're choosing they're all

19:58

plays we've either missed a

20:00

third of the season currently injured going

20:02

into the tournament with barely any game

20:04

time going into the last stages of

20:06

the season which is quite

20:08

worrying to be honest because we

20:11

know that we're gonna have games in the Euros

20:13

where it'll get to the depths of the knockout

20:15

stages and we're gonna have to defend for our

20:17

lives against some of these teams namely the France

20:19

team who in terms of

20:21

their attack could probably split anyone apart in a

20:23

moment and I just hope

20:25

that we have a fully fit defense

20:28

that is fresh because the guys that

20:30

we're looking to start Kyle Walker, John

20:32

Stones, Harry Maguire, Luke Shaw all four

20:35

of them are injured right now which is

20:37

such a concern so then the guys behind them

20:39

they're gonna have to be absolutely perfect from now

20:41

to the end of the season so that's why

20:44

I do worry about the defense. Attack I think

20:46

is still as clinical as it was or

20:48

has been in the last few years but

20:51

the defense and the midfield it feels like it's

20:53

just rotated in terms of its strength but

20:56

then that should that not mean that we should

20:58

dominate more games then because we've got a stronger midfield

21:00

potentially. Okay time for

21:03

the midfielders and the strikers we'll do it

21:05

next on football. Final part

21:15

of today's show we're trying to piece together

21:17

who Gareth Southgate will take to Germany for

21:19

the Euros in the summer only 23 players

21:22

he'll get to pick we've gone through the

21:24

goalkeeper's and the defenders and who we think

21:26

definitely should be on the plane now it's

21:28

midfielders and strikers this is where it gets

21:30

juicy because this is where I think England

21:32

are stacked in terms of the quality that

21:34

they have when everyone's fully fit I think

21:36

that's a key sentence so underline it put

21:38

it in yellow highlighter pen when everyone's fit

21:40

because this is what we're gonna have to

21:43

go off here Ivan Tony

21:45

scored his first England goal against

21:47

Belgium in that 2-2 draw yesterday

21:49

is he gonna get on

21:51

the plane we'll come on to that shortly

21:53

but first midfielders. Cobie Mayner your

21:55

old friend Joel has he done enough in these

21:58

two friendly games to get himself a play in

22:00

the England squad in Germany? Do

22:30

you remember when Jordan Henderson came on? I

22:38

can't remember which game was Croatia, maybe France

22:40

it was in the last World Cup and

22:42

he just got a boot in it long

22:44

when we were winning the game. Do you

22:47

remember? Oh God, yeah I

22:49

remember somebody made a clip of every

22:51

touch he had in the game and

22:54

honestly all Barabout 2 were

22:56

just hoofing it into the channel. He was absolutely pathetic,

22:58

I don't want to play like that in the England

23:00

squad if we're winning a game. I'd rather have Kobe

23:02

Maynu come on, control the game,

23:04

have a calm head, rather than Jordan Henderson

23:07

who's thinking, oh my God we're 20 minutes away

23:09

from Gloria, let me just get the ball away from

23:11

our box, no, let's actually play

23:13

the game right, and that's why I'd rather

23:15

have him in there for sure. Obviously you

23:17

have your shoe ins of, I think we

23:19

can have our default midfield of Bellingham, Rice,

23:22

Foden if you want to class him as the midfielder, but

23:25

I definitely think that if Maynu

23:27

has a strong end of the season as well with United,

23:29

because obviously we've got the FA Cup as well which is

23:31

going to be a big part in, I

23:34

would be, I'd hedge him a better son of being on

23:36

the plane. Okay, so if Maynu's

23:38

in and Henderson's out,

23:41

who else plays in central midfield? Got to be

23:43

Rice. Gallagher? Probably Gallagher.

23:45

I think they're

23:47

your three deeper line midfielders, I

23:50

don't think there's much, I don't

23:52

think there's an obvious balance to

23:54

England's midfield, I think Rice is

23:56

your obvious holder, but

23:58

then Foden, if you put Foden in, him in field

24:00

he plays as a number 10. He doesn't really play

24:02

centre midfield where he's got a box of books.

24:06

Same with Billingham. I think Billingham, the further

24:08

forward you get through Billingham, you

24:10

know the bit of he is. So then

24:12

you're looking at who else is there and there's

24:14

Mayne who's obviously hyped and

24:17

playing well and confidence is all through the

24:19

roof and then there's Connor Gallagher who's

24:22

similar. He's never really put a foot wrong for England.

24:24

I think he's a good player.

24:26

He plays slightly deeper than the rest of the

24:28

ones just mentioned so it's

24:30

probably them three. Are we classing

24:33

Trent as a midfielder in this? That's the

24:35

thing, we don't know do we? You

24:39

can't say, you can

24:41

think, or he can pass, he can tackle.

24:43

He's a decent shooting from a midfielder but

24:45

he's not. We don't know. We

24:48

just don't know if he can do it and

24:50

again to test him in a Euros game. You've

24:53

got Frans in the quarter final, you're chucking him in there. It's

24:56

a big call where

24:59

somebody can hang the hat on. That decision

25:01

was completely wrong. Obviously Billingham

25:03

who scored the

25:05

late equaliser for England. He's

25:08

one of the world's brightest young stars.

25:10

I'd argue one of the world's best

25:12

players this season, just going off this

25:14

season. 20 goals for Real Madrid. He

25:16

spent a portion of that time out injured as well. If we're

25:19

talking about players that England are going to be pinning

25:21

their hopes on and players who are

25:23

able to deal with that pressure and wear it on

25:25

their shoulders, Bellingham is 100% one of those players. Is

25:27

it though

25:30

a case of a little bit too much too soon or

25:32

do you think he's ready to take that responsibility on? Are

25:35

we in a position where we don't need to rely

25:37

on one player? We can look at this as a

25:39

collective rather than we need Rooney to play well or

25:41

we need Beckham to play well. I

25:43

think this could be the tournament for Bellingham to

25:46

properly announce himself. It feels like that kind of

25:48

Rooney 04 tournament for me for him. Even just

25:50

watching him yesterday when he got the goal against

25:52

Belgium, he just feels like the type of player

25:55

who takes the game by the scruff of the

25:57

neck and when we're losing he'll go and change

25:59

something. for himself he just honestly

26:01

saying this I've not seen such a monstrous

26:05

kind of mentality for such a youngster

26:07

since Rooney in terms of the

26:10

way he plays his game where he's just on

26:12

that borderline of aggression but the right type

26:15

of aggression which is what Rooney played his

26:17

game at and I just think it is

26:19

so vital for our team and

26:21

I hope that Southgate plays in more advanced as

26:23

well like they're doing at Real Madrid where they

26:25

have the deep line playmakers behind him and the

26:27

Bellingham can be a little bit more advanced because

26:29

if you play him in a pivot with Rice

26:32

you're literally taking away one of his biggest assets

26:34

which is his goal scoring ability I mean

26:36

he's one of the top goal scorers in

26:38

La Liga this season you'd be absolutely stupid

26:41

to play him any further back in the

26:43

pitch but then you've also got Harry

26:45

Kane as well who's one of the top goal scorers in

26:47

the world and one of the best in the world so

26:49

like you say I think that the the

26:51

responsibility can be distributed in this England side

26:54

but I think Bellingham enjoys the task of

26:56

being the one who can really you know

26:58

take the game as he wants to take

27:00

it like I said I feel like there's

27:03

such a resemblance between him and Rooney similar

27:05

ages as well okay centre forwards Harry

27:08

Kane's going very much like Pickford and what

27:10

you were saying about him Marley Kane's on

27:12

the plane there's no two ways about it

27:14

so who goes with him Tony Watkins

27:18

I think Tony and I

27:20

know what kids is having a great season and stuff

27:22

but as I've said a lot

27:24

before I don't think he's I

27:27

don't think he affects games at the

27:29

highest level he plays I don't

27:31

think he's enough of a handful

27:33

for really good defenses I think Kane

27:35

is and I think Tony can be as well I think

27:37

you know his movement for

27:39

the for the goal against Belgium where he won

27:41

the penalty that was that was good and

27:44

carry too much into that he's not had many

27:46

caps but I think in terms of is

27:49

Tony a better player than what pins that I think he

27:51

is and

27:53

then you've got yes they might both go

27:55

you know easily might both

27:57

go as backup to I

28:00

think Callum Wilson got plenty of opportunities in

28:02

the Euros, coming

28:05

off the bench and stuff with Kane

28:08

leading the line from the start type of thing. So

28:10

there is minutes there to be had. But

28:13

I would think, I

28:16

expect Tooley to get on

28:18

the plane, whether it's with Watkins or without

28:20

Imbuk, I think if you're picking one

28:22

or the other, I'd pick Tooley. Do you boys

28:25

reckon that Marcus Rashford is in danger of not

28:27

making it? Because I was just thinking then, the

28:29

options of Jareelish, Cole Palmer,

28:31

Jarrubowen, there's

28:34

going to be one big name that's going to be left

28:36

out of there, or a couple of them actually. And I

28:38

mean, Jareelish has been out of the Man City side for

28:40

a little bit now because of Doku. Marcus

28:43

Rashford has had one of the worst seasons, he's had

28:45

in quite a long time. But

28:47

then he revitalised himself in the last tournament.

28:49

So that's why I'm thinking it isn't

28:51

a difficult choice again. Yeah, Rashford's one of

28:53

those players where he's got so much talent,

28:56

but we don't always see it. He's honestly

28:59

one of the most talented players in the Premier League,

29:01

I think, especially English players.

29:04

You've got players like Foden and Bellingham,

29:06

who show that talent more often than

29:08

Rashford. But if you ever

29:10

hear people talk about Marcus Rashford, the

29:12

amount of former teammates or current teammates

29:14

that say just how good this young

29:16

man is, or can be, is quite

29:18

frightening. But actually, you're right, didn't he

29:20

come on for a couple

29:22

of games during the World Cup and Fizz

29:24

to free, Kierfinn? Fizz got three goals, yeah,

29:27

yeah. You know, Southgate wasn't picking him, but

29:29

he was in the goal scoring form of

29:31

his life for Manchester United last season, and

29:33

Southgate wasn't picking him then. So

29:35

yeah, I guess maybe you could say his place is

29:37

at risk. I mean, because if we're going to go

29:39

off picking 7-4 with, let's

29:41

say, you've got Harry Kane, Bekai Osaka, another

29:44

striker, let's say, Ivan Tony for argument's

29:46

sake, and maybe Phil Fone if you

29:49

count him. So you've got three options left there. I'd

29:52

be taking Jack Grealish just because I love

29:54

the way he's able to draw fouls in

29:56

games. I think he's such a vital asset.

30:00

So important Joel, I think you're absolutely spot on.

30:02

In international football, I mean we always say set

30:04

pieces are big at any level of football. Where's

30:06

the cliche, Bill? But in international

30:08

football, set pieces

30:10

almost become double your money. Especially

30:12

with the plays that we'd have in our squad to

30:14

take them, whether it's Trippie, whether it's Trent Alexander on,

30:16

or I mean, it's a danger zone. You

30:18

know who I would be taking though, and I've been really impressed

30:21

with him in the last two games, Jarrubo.

30:24

I know you guys might disagree, but I just...

30:27

I put him in my little pencil game

30:29

for dear. He played with an

30:31

element of just fear and electricity in the

30:33

transition that I really like to see. And

30:36

when I was thinking, who else do we

30:38

have in our team to do that? Is

30:40

only Marcus Rashford? Gordon, no. But I think

30:42

we need electricity in the team. I think

30:45

the forward line's too inverted. If you can

30:47

have Phil Foden, Jack

30:49

Grealish, Harry Kane, it's

30:52

too narrow, I think. I think we need a little

30:54

bit of that transitionary pace, and I think Bowen has

30:56

that. Alright, let's pin it down then. We've got 23

30:58

names to choose. We've thrown

31:00

quite a lot out there. Some of them

31:02

we've locked in as guaranteed to be on

31:05

the plane to Germany. Let's go

31:07

through them. I know some of you

31:09

listening will be counting

31:13

how many players we pick. Probably a bit of it.

31:15

Probably a month's worth. Hopefully there's 23 here, so don't...

31:19

But don't count on it. Don't

31:21

expect our masterpiece spot on here.

31:23

I'll try and remember who we

31:25

chose. Pickford, Ramsdale, and Pope, the

31:27

Goalkeepers. Walker, Trippier, Stones, McGuire, Brantthwaite,

31:30

Chilwell, and Shaw. I'm

31:33

taking Gay here over Brantthwaite, I'm sorry. And

31:35

Mark Gay, okay, so that's an extra player.

31:37

Declan Rice, Cobie Maynew,

31:40

Bellingham, James Madison, Trent

31:42

Alexander-Arnold, and Connor Gallagher as

31:44

the midfield players. Saka,

31:48

Kane, Foden, Tony,

31:50

Rashford, Bowen, and

31:52

Grealish as the forwards. I

31:54

think that might have been 24 players, but... I told

31:56

you you had a Gay in there! You

32:01

picked him to it instead. Yeah,

32:05

I think when we included Madison he was the

32:07

24th man. I mean, do

32:09

you think Garrosalska has these deliberations? He's like, you've picked

32:11

24. Yeah, definitely. Oh, you can't get rid of him.

32:13

Yeah, 100%. Alright, well if, who's

32:15

a 12th man then? Who's a 12th man? That's a cricket

32:18

term, but you know what I mean. Who's the 24th man?

32:21

Watkins. No, no, no. Is

32:23

it Gay or Madison? Oh, sorry,

32:25

I thought you were reading another one.

32:27

No, no, no, he's already picked 24,

32:30

so... God, so who gets left

32:32

out, who gets the job? Yeah, who gets

32:34

the job? Brother Brantway. Because ultimately he hasn't

32:36

played for England, so... Okay, so basically instead

32:38

of me going through all of that again,

32:41

everyone we said apart from Brantway... I've had

32:43

enough, I've had enough. I'm glad the international

32:45

breaks drew into a close because the next

32:47

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32:50

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32:52

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