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Yaser for the record with Angelina, what's up. I'm Angelina, I'm Chris,

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I'm angel Leek, I'm a b period and fus Chris is behind the

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camera. In this week's episode. And for the Culture, we're talking about

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some heartbreak that happened this past Sunday, but also Ushers halftime Show and Let's

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Talk TV, a brand new show is coming to Netflix. And in Bitch,

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I give an update on Carpenter Bay and we talk about canceling dates.

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By all means, let's get to it. This is for the culture,

1:03

for the culture, for the culture. This is where we pick a headline

1:06

and ask if they, she or he did it for the culture. I'm gonna just get this part out the way. Though I was doing so good

1:11

and I wanted to talk about the Niners leading up because you know, I

1:14

don't want to jinx it when Super Bowl is approaching. We did not talk

1:19

about it in any of the episodes. I'll just say, I don't know,

1:23

it's still it's it's it's a stinger, so sad literally forever. It

1:30

was hands down, not hands down, but it definitely was one of the

1:32

worst loss losses in forty nine ER's history. And I know a lot of

1:36

people are like blaming it on the no holding call, and like I think

1:40

when you lose like that on a big stage, it's like easy. Everyone

1:42

wants to point a finger, you want to blame the coach, you want to blame certain players. But like, all in all, it was a

1:47

team loss. There was a lot of missed opportunities. We should have had

1:51

like seventeen points going into halftime. Right if you have turnovers and don't refuse

1:56

to score on turnovers, like you're just already gonna battle and appeal. I

2:00

don't know what that's saying is have an upheel battle. So yeah, that

2:06

was a heartbreaker. Rock Party though he did a solid job. But yeah,

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I mean, I'll be classy and give it to Patrick Mahomes. He

2:13

really is the goat. It's fucking hard to beat them his fucking seth rogen

2:16

laugh sound and ass come with the frog of the fuckers. No, he's

2:25

like literally the go He probably will pass on Bretty's record and it's really hard

2:30

to be him. And like I said, brock Party was solid, but

2:32

like he's just not in the same universe as my Homes And like obviously one

2:37

if we won maybe that wouldn't have been a conversation. Maybe it would have,

2:40

but got to give credit words due and it was just a team loss

2:44

all around. And I don't want to sound like a Cowboys fan and say that we'll be back next year, but like, we'll be back next year.

2:50

Maybe we probably will. I think at one point I was feeling like

2:53

I'd rather just be trash, like I'm so tired of like making it every

2:57

year and like not winning. But like that's a lie. I want to

3:00

be trashed like some of your guys' teams. So yeah, anyways, Well,

3:04

isn't the super Bowl coming here next year? So like you know,

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yeah, I'm pretty sure they are. Yeah, wow that someone told me.

3:14

I don't know. My class told me that time it gets there will

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be. I thought, if you were going to super Bowl, you couldn't

3:20

have it at your your home. Well we don't know, Oh, I

3:24

guess we don't know. Well the script the scripts are coming then, will

3:31

not be? It is coming to Clara yeah right, leave stadium. Yeah,

3:37

they already going to host it next year. I think it's twenty twenty

3:40

six. So like if the Niners go, that would be dope because it

3:44

could be their home, but I guess they won't get the cut. They

3:46

won't go, they won't go. So didn't somebody just say that if if

3:52

a place is hosting it, the team can't play, well, they can't

3:55

not like like yeah the rule. Maybe they have like like a tentative place,

4:04

but then like, oh, if the Niners go, then we got

4:06

to move somewhere else. I feel like that's not a thing at all.

4:09

Like what, you go undefeated and you can't play the super Bowl because it's

4:13

in your hometown. Let me let me google this real quick. Hold on,

4:15

hold on, please please hold twenty four Only two teams have played the

4:19

super Bowl in their stadium, so you can, okay, okay, they

4:24

just want to go where the money, where the money flows, and like

4:27

Levy Stadium is it's huge, like and it's been yeah the Rams, that's

4:31

so fine. Oh wait, we had it a couple of years ago.

4:36

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like before it was actually a

4:44

cold Play but it was yeh, who is she? I don't know her?

4:53

Just kidding love cold Play down, but Beyonce Bruno clearly stole the show.

4:58

And who stole the show from me? Yeah? The best part of

5:00

Sunday Night was usher mother fucking Raymond. His first song, caught Up was

5:06

not I did. It wasn't my top three. I didn't even think it

5:11

was like. Hearing it, I was like, I know it was good,

5:14

but I was coming in. I didn't take that. I like your

5:17

guys' idea of what the songs. That what he was going to open up

5:20

with, yeah, directed like mine was open with Daddy's Home. Oh yeah,

5:30

yeah, I just want to get your attention. Stop Pyro Pyro.

5:38

That's a good opener too. I thought he was going to open up too

5:41

bad girl one. Yeah, that's a good but also caught Up was good

5:47

though I did not see that coming at all see it coming. Also,

5:50

I'm not gonna I don't not like caught Up. But I think when it

5:53

was out, like I remember it being like on one to six a Park,

5:56

and I I wasn't in love with it. Really, it's like probably

5:59

my favorite song on the Confessions album. I'm not gonna lie, Okay,

6:04

I think I don't know which one it was. Let It Burn on that

6:06

album that been my favorite, let It Burn. But he didn't even do

6:14

Daddy's Home at All's Home. And but I'm glad he went through like he

6:20

did most of his R and B ship Like it was very R and B.

6:24

It was very hip hop, you know. I will say I wish

6:28

it was like five seconds of a song versus like two three yeah songs,

6:33

so it's like how do you get through album? But it did feel a

6:36

little a little quick, like right when I'm like ready to sing, it's

6:40

like to the next one and slow. It was just seven o'clock on the

6:46

dot and then it switched. I was I wasn't ready for that. I

6:48

needed a little bit more. I wanted to hear Lovers and Friends. I

6:53

was so bummed about Lovers and Friends, especially because they were all up there,

6:56

up there. They could have totally took that opportunity, but I guess

7:00

can't do them all. Superstar though, even though he just did the intro,

7:03

I thought that, I thought of you is a win for you guys.

7:11

I did like the roller blade was dope. The how they were all

7:19

in sync. He killed one of the dancers. I don't know if you

7:23

guys caught in the very beginning, he like bent backwards and he used his

7:26

like head to like roller blade through the stage. Yes, the skates,

7:32

the whole production was insane, like the Vegas theme. They nailed it.

7:36

Yeah, it was really good. A lot going on. Al piano was

7:41

fire. Yeah, like the piano maybe a good transition to go into the

7:46

bath. No Alicia the first note, Like I would have been okay if

7:58

they cut that whole part out. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, it

8:01

was a little surprised that she was going to be there, But that's cool.

8:03

You know she the very first which is crazy because they went and edited

8:09

it off YouTube. Did they edited it out because she cracked like her voice

8:18

at that ship. Yeah, and like auto like side note just about the

8:22

world. Like, that's so crazy. I can see years from now people

8:26

like arguing, people arguing whether or not it was like a good or bad

8:30

performance, Like there's any people who remember her cracking and be like, okay,

8:33

let's pull it up on YouTube. No. Wow, I never even

8:35

thought about it like that. That's how you change the narrative. That's how

8:39

you change the narrative. The power. That's crazy. Her dress was fire

8:46

though, Yeah, she shouldn't said to that. The chemistry. I love

8:52

that. Don't leave your girl around me? True playing for that? He

9:03

did. You don't have to call also, I mean, he did all the hits. It was amazing, and I feel like it did exactly what

9:09

halftime show was supposed to do, Like you're supposed to be, like, wow, this person has catalog and like, unfortunately Usher has been lately severely

9:16

underrated, Like he is one of the biggest starts. He gave us one

9:18

of the best R and B albums. But like the fact that it was

9:22

even like a conversation if he should do halftime is insane, and I think

9:24

he proved that point. Like bitch, I got hits on hits, I'm

9:28

a performer. Yeahs her noise, she did that. I love that she

9:41

killed it. She did she I mean she her starting too is just like

9:46

on YouTube, right, she was just like saying something and Ellen saw her

9:50

and she was on all these like good morning shows. I love. I

9:52

love that storyline. Like now you're at the fucking super Bowl and you're like,

9:54

not even thirty, let's go. And she's sang when she was little

9:58

too, like a throwback of like being at the super Bowl singing oh wow,

10:05

that's right. Definitely full circle for her. Oh my god, could

10:09

you imagine could you imagine? No she was she was fired, and I

10:16

loved, like, yeah, when Ludacris came out, I just got like

10:18

so like the hip hop. Me got really happy. And the part that

10:22

I thought was really dope when Luda had came out and he was doing his

10:26

yeah verse, they played the Freaking League beat and now she was fired,

10:31

and I remember like coming back to work and me and my coworkers were specifically

10:33

talking about that part. It just sounded really dope. So now stuff has

10:37

been coming out. How like Little John was like the main one to like

10:39

produce the whole show. But he also I didn't know this. He mentioned

10:43

that ushers Yeah was originally recorded to the Freak League beat. Oh wow.

10:48

Interesting. I didn't know that. And then I guess Peop Papa wouldn't put

10:52

it out, didn't want to give it to him, so well, John didn't want to take it, and he just like flipped it. So essentially

10:56

the beat is essentially the Freak League beat. He just like switched some parts

10:58

out and he's like, I'm glad we did it because like, yeah,

11:01

it wouldn't have been yeah right, yeah, but is one of the best

11:07

beats ever, Like to this day, people we have like there's like three

11:09

samples already of it, like people continue to wrap over it's one of the

11:13

best beats ever. But oh no, my mind was blown and like that

11:16

made that moment even cooler. Like I thought that was dope that he was

11:18

just wrapping over it, like it just seemed to hip hop as fuck.

11:20

And then to know that, like, oh this actually could have been Yeah,

11:24

like no, wonder why he's like riding the beat so so too. Yeah, so that ship was fire. Where are we ranking this as far

11:31

as like top halftime performances? Happy, I feel like I want to do

11:41

top five, really, top ten for sure. I'm just trying to think

11:46

of other ones. I don't know. Lady got Katie Ferry, Beyonce,

11:50

well, like number one for me, Michael Michael, yeah, Michael's Yeah.

11:58

It's just like he's like sitting there for like two minutes straight and everyone's

12:03

just going shit crazy and he like doesn't even sing it out like for like

12:07

two whole minutes. Everyone's just like screaming, losing their fucking Yeah. Yeah,

12:13

it's known to be like one of the best ones for sure. Okay,

12:15

Yeah, it's like MJ, so number one, you forget to count

12:18

it. It's like Michael Jackson, Prince and then we're gonna rank the rest,

12:22

and at number three is Beyonce and Bruno. For me, I gotta

12:24

look at the rest of them too. You're right, it's a toughye,

12:28

But is sure over Rihanna's last year, for sure, I say easy.

12:33

Yeah, Yeah, It's a hard to judge Rihanna because she end up being

12:37

pregnant. You know that scratch a lot of stuff, But for sure,

12:41

I think now it's safe to say, like, yeah, it wasn't it

12:43

wasn't the greatest, It wasn't terrible. It was that was Paris Globals,

12:48

which is the choreographer who did it. It was her super Bowl. It

12:52

wasn't h Yeah, it was Rihanna, of course, but like she that

12:56

was that was all her planning. I mean, love her songs, but yeah, and I think and hers did do what exactly the super Bowl needs

13:03

to do. Like it was at the end of the day, You're like, damn, we only got catalog. But it was nothing like crazy pregnanty.

13:09

Yeah, the coolest part was her like doing her makeup, like Okay,

13:11

your rich bitch, you got makeup, you got anywhere and Nama shout

13:15

out to usher. He's a man, okay, one of the goats,

13:18

minus the camera man being a little wonky in the beginning. And Alice Keys,

13:22

I don't think she get in her voice back. But other than that,

13:26

the man got hits on hits. It was amazing him harmonizing all his

13:31

records, taking his shirt off, doing his little dance the guest stars.

13:35

I thought it was amazing and I need to find a way to create an

13:39

OnlyFans or sell some feet picks so I get tickets to his upcoming tour.

13:43

He is coming to Oakland. Let's talk TV everyone. After the show is

13:50

over, After this podcast is over, take your little asses to Netflix,

13:54

take your little fingers and type in the Vince Staples Show. It is out

13:58

now. It dropped at midnight on Thursday, February fifteenth, Right is that

14:03

Thursday yesterday? Yes? So Vince Staple. Yeah, he got his own

14:09

Netflix show. If you don't know who Vince Stables is, He's one of

14:11

my favorite rappers out aside from those boys at Griselda. I really don't think

14:16

anyone could out rap Vin Staples like I love Kendrick. I think Vin Staples

14:20

could out rap Kendrake like I know that's my hot take. When it comes

14:24

bar for Barr, not hits wise, but obviously Kendrick's career. Rap career

14:28

is better, discography is better. But when it comes bar for Bar,

14:31

I think Vince Staples could wrap a lot of these new guys on the scene.

14:37

However, aside from my love for him as a rapper, he's always

14:43

going viral for his interviews. Everyone swears up and down that he's the funniest

14:46

guy ever. We need to put him on TV, and now here he

14:50

is on TV. Okay, you're at your prayers haven't answered. I'm not

14:54

exactly sure what it's about. I saw the trailer. It does seem pretty

14:58

scrissid earlier like it seemed like a little dick. I don't know if it's

15:01

necessarily Vince Staples story, like on Vince Stables a rapper, this is how

15:05

I become a rapper. But maybe I don't know. I gotta watch it.

15:09

It does seem like he is playing a regular version of himself, and

15:13

like a lot of it's based on maybe actual events he's gone through, growing

15:20

up in LA and being in a gang, et cetera. Is it is

15:24

it a comedy? Yeah, it's definitely a comedy. Yeah, it's a

15:26

comedy show. It's no, no, no, no, it's definitely not

15:31

a docu series. It's like he's just not playing himself. But I'm sure

15:33

he's playing from like stuff he knows from his life. I see, you know what I mean? Like next week we'll be able to come with a

15:39

real review and what it's about and how funny it was and if it's that

15:43

good or not. But please go watch the Vince Staples show. This is

15:45

what I'm looking up right now, like what it's supposed to be about.

15:48

This is what the La Times is saying online. There we go. Yeah,

15:54

I see the description says Vince Staples plays a regular guy version of himself.

15:58

Infix and Netflix is a stable show, gap tooth Wrapper and Active Stables

16:03

has a series. Why do they describe it that way? Gas, I

16:10

don't have a damn La Times. What is it? I'm offended. I

16:18

looked at I forgot him. Okay, describes it limited comedic series London.

16:29

Look, Okay, that's crazy. Vin Stables navigates life as a kind of

16:36

famous, kind of rich, kind of criminal, but not really rapper.

16:45

But I didn't even realize. Now, Okay, We just got a couple

16:48

of gap to write that the La Times that was not his, that was

17:03

on a podcast. Not y'all love it at eighties gap. Maybe your gap

17:08

is beautiful. You go see it on our Instagram. Had to underscore emtr

17:12

pod go support the Vincample show it Neflix. I said, bitch, if

17:19

you wanted to go to Taylor's, just tell her brother you want to go

17:22

to Taylor You said that. Oh hell yeah, man, I laid it

17:26

out right, I said, I said, I said, I said,

17:29

bitch, all right, bitch. So do you guys remember last week?

17:34

I told you it's been a week and I have not heard from We'll go

17:38

ahead, carp this, Carpenter, it's been a week, you said,

17:44

you guys remember last week? I was like, we went on too amazing

17:47

dates. And then I was like, okay, we had talked on that

17:52

like that Saturday, and then we recorded the podcast on Thursday, and I

17:56

was like, yeah, I have not heard from at all, Like he hasn't text me nothing. Yeah, produce Chris even be like, no,

18:00

it's just the middle of the week. We're like, no, it's Thursday,

18:03

Sunday again, like it's gonna be a full seven days, so he

18:07

did text me. Oh okay, okay, okay, so text me on

18:11

Saturday, I had a Warrior's game shouts and Angelique she came out to support.

18:19

Okay, I have to pull the screenshot out. So he texted you

18:22

six days after let me let me tell you, yes, it was six

18:26

days. Let me pull the text out first. Okay, you guys,

18:30

this is for real, so terrible. Okay, I'm pulling out a thing,

18:34

you guys. Also, I don't know if anyone else does this,

18:37

but sometimes with like if I'm like expecting a text message or I have like

18:41

anxiety about it, I'll like delete the text thread and that means it didn't

18:45

happen. No, that's just so when I deleted it, like if he

18:48

never would to hit me up, like that never happened because I deleted the text thread. If that orcs for you, girl, that works for you.

18:53

If I send a risky text, okay, I've been doing pretty good

18:56

not doing it anymore, even though I just did it this past week.

19:00

No. I used to be though, yeah, please say, do you

19:06

mean you are in an argument? Right? And I send you a risky

19:10

text and I'm like anticipating your text message, but I'm tired of waiting for

19:14

it. I'll delete the text thread and that means it didn't happen, like

19:17

like you know if people throw their phone because I don't want to look at it anymore doing that, like, yeah, you don't want to print it,

19:23

email nothing, No, that's my option, no receipts, do not

19:27

do it. No, but okay, I used to be really bad.

19:30

Side story. One time I was talking to this guy. We did not

19:36

have a good altercation, and I sent a very risky text. We didn't

19:41

have altercation, but like we the time we met up, it was just

19:44

embarrassing. It was not good. I sent a very risky text. This

19:48

this is my crazy days. I'm not like this anymore. I sent a risky text. I get to work. I don't want to see anymore.

19:53

Like if you respond like, I'm like, I have anxiety. So I

19:56

delete the text thread. It never happened. This is when I worked at

20:00

the front desk and I heard and I'm waiting, Oh you guys right when

20:03

I deleted the message, my phone vibrated, so he literally texted me as

20:07

I was deleting the text thread, so you didn't see the message. No,

20:11

So I go back to the front desk, which I'm like trying to

20:15

find ways you could like recover, which I called team to God, I

20:22

called and I was like, is there any way I could retrieve these?

20:27

No? I was down bad. I swear I'm not like that anymore five

20:32

years ago, ma'am your plan or sometimes you can look at like call logs,

20:38

they could know you're for evidence and stuff like I think it's because I

20:45

message, because technically you could actually if it's like green text messages, so

20:49

android winters. You guys are actually winning. If you were a crazy bitch

20:52

in my situation and you had an Android, you would have been able to

20:55

retrieve that message maybe, but because it was I message, they weren't able

20:59

to do it. So I had to send a second risky text and make

21:03

up a lie of why I didn't just get that, because I had to

21:07

say in the ocean and I don't know what I told him, but it

21:12

was something so embarrassing along the lines of, hey, I didn't get your

21:15

last message, but oh God, just replaying this in my head, like

21:19

telling the story I was insane. I was actually insane, but I think

21:23

I made up a lie. Was like man for whatever reason I didn't get

21:30

her text that you just sent me. But whatever, I just want to

21:34

apologize about whatever whatever, like I went back to the topic at hand,

21:40

So embarrassing would the message? No but his He did respond to me and

21:45

it was very respectable, like okay message. But then we eventually followed each

21:49

other off socials. But that were good me did him follow each other?

21:52

We're great Off the record. I used to be insane. I can't believe

22:00

I literally called him T Mobile. That's crazy who used to work to my

22:04

desk with me. She was probably just looking at me like this bitch is

22:07

so crazy, has seen me at my worst because we miss you no so

22:14

much. Emma really saw me down bad. She saw me calling up T

22:17

Mobile, deleting text threads, so many hungover days coming into work. She

22:22

saw me the day after. If you're a day one for the record fan

22:26

this story the day I fortunately got arrested. You no longer delete the dread.

22:36

Yeah, well I did do it this past Saturday, because oh no,

22:41

I was just writing AV. I was like, if he is ghost

22:44

to me, like, I don't want to like be dumb and text him. You get what I say? So I already didn't save his number,

22:48

and I know, like if I ever was in a mode to self sabotage

22:52

and like text this man embarrassingly, I was like, that's not gonna happen.

22:55

So that's why I deleted the text. I was like, you know what, if he goes to me, let me just go ahead and delete

22:59

his number and like let him do that, because yeah, I'm like,

23:02

we're coming up on almost day seven. And then Angelina would call Apple to

23:06

see if she could recover the numbers. Yeah, I know, see that.

23:10

That's not like anymore. I don't do anywhere. I don't call customer service anywhere to get number. But that's what was going in my head.

23:17

Okay, okay, So Saturday, I'm working Seed OFS and I get a little text message. Oh I deleted that part, damn it. So what

23:23

do you have the screenshot? But it was something along with the lions.

23:26

It was something along the lines. Because I ran out to Angelique, he

23:30

said something like oh what was it? Because he worded it that he was

23:33

like hey, smiley face. And then he sent a second message and he

23:37

was like did it. Almost thought I wasn't going to find your number.

23:41

Four A second was like a sweaty emoji. He said, yes, he

23:45

did say that. I thought I was He said, I thought I wasn't

23:48

going to find your number again, so he lost it or he's also right

23:53

confused, and I was like, okay, let's just scroll down. But

23:57

then I'm like, yeah, so many bitches that you're like, yeah,

24:06

dive in. So I think I responded like, oh, like you deleted

24:11

my number already or something like SEMIKEI with someone like what the fuck? Yeah,

24:15

yeah, he said, sends me a picture of his phone, and

24:17

he said, my old phone stopped working, so I had I had to buy a new one. So he had a little type of there, and

24:22

all my recent numbers didn't get saved on my iCloud. I paid someone to

24:25

try and fix the phone, and they were able to fix it today. Ha ha. Do you believe him? I didn't believe him. Oh you

24:32

didn't believe him? No, because, first of all, if it was

24:34

me, I'm not going twenty four hours without a working phone, Like,

24:38

how are you going to go a whole week without a phone? Well,

24:41

no, he didn't have a phone. Yeah, you couldn't get the numbers,

24:45

that's what. Yeah, So what I think I think he got a new phone right away because he does need it for work. And I think

24:48

he said, but eventually I end up paying someone to fix his old phone

24:52

so I could get my old numbers or he was like, I'm so in

24:56

love with that bitch, I'm actually going to pay someone so I could just get her number. No, I'm just I don't know if it was just

25:00

for me, but I think he was saying that he already got a new

25:03

phone for work. So where you guys at now, what's going on right

25:06

today in the bay? Bids today in the bay? I do believe him.

25:11

I mean, you really can't put anything past anyone, like people are

25:14

crazy. But I do feel like it's too early to come up with that

25:18

like specific ass lie, Like why make up a lie like that? Like

25:22

that's like o d like like a bitch, I'm just hitting you on days

25:26

sex Like I could just been like, hey, what's up right? You

25:29

know? So he's like not only one acknowledging that, Hey, it's been

25:32

six days since I've text you, but also this is the reason why I've

25:34

text you, And oh my god, I thought I was never gonna find

25:37

your number again. I like, you know, I like the hey, I know it's been a while, but it's because of it, like you

25:41

know, like yeah right, I mean whatever, like whether it was a

25:45

lie or not. I kind of in the moment was just happy that this

25:48

mother Parker is still alive. And he texted me, yeah, I'll firm

25:53

that because I was there. Actually, no one's jumping up and down,

25:56

kicking a screaming yeah, anyone makes And he texts me because she was so

26:15

cute, were taking away thriving. So he did finally text me, what

26:29

was the last text? Where are you guys at right now? I'm not

26:32

gonna take the details. No, we're just texting casual like our last text.

26:37

I don't know he sent pictures of his dog or something. I do

26:41

want to bring that up, though, because I originally shared the Carpenter based

26:45

story, because there's this actual post that's going viral on TikTok right now and

26:48

it has to do with someone not texting a person within a week. So

26:53

we're gonna get into that, but real quick, I do want to talk

26:56

about letting conversations die. I literally was just talking about this with someone yesterday.

27:02

So Chris, I'm glad you asked that because now that I don't know

27:06

if it's because I'm older or just where I'm at right now, but I see texting while dating way differently than I did three years ago, five years

27:14

ago, ten years ago. Like I definitely think it's okay to let conversations

27:18

die. I think before it'd be like, oh no, we got to keep this going. I gotta say good morning, Like no, like,

27:23

it's okay if we don't. Like I just like the idea that you text

27:26

me today, you know, like that's cool and you decided whatever, I

27:30

can send me a picture dog, whatever it may be. But like, I'm totally fine with like conversations dying, and I'm not like, oh,

27:34

our last text was dry, Like I don't think that. I just think

27:37

like, oh we talked that day, you know. Is this like like

27:40

while you're dating you said yeah, and I mean, okay, I agree,

27:45

Well what do you what is your other one? No? I thought you like because I feel because I think when once you get into a relationship,

27:49

I like the like, let me know, like I can't just not

27:53

hear from you at all, you know, like but I'm not trying to

27:56

text you all day every day because we both have lives and we're both adults.

28:00

Like I like the idea of like good morning, long day to day,

28:03

it texts you when i'm you know, when I'm home or whatever,

28:06

And then I think there are different eras different but in the beginning, don't

28:12

I actually like because it's like do you have a job, Like, if

28:15

you're texting me twenty four seven, do you have a job, Do you

28:18

have a family, do you have a hobby? It's like, why are you texting me twenty And also like I'm trying to get to know you not

28:22

through the phone, yes, and people could really fake their caps the whole

28:26

personalities to your phone or you interpret it differently because there's no tone there.

28:30

Right, you can have a whole personality while I'm texting you and then I

28:33

see you in person and it's like dry as hell. But we have these

28:37

like I think that, And it's especially for someone who like me, who's

28:40

so delusional and like loves self sabotage and loves overthinking. I especially don't want

28:44

to do that because when say, you're texting me like all the time and

28:48

you're this amazing person like of course I'm already if I'm not already making you

28:51

up in my head to be a certain type of person. That's what girls do. We like in the beginning, and I did hear like when you

28:56

think, like a first day great, it's because you're great, you know,

28:59

it's because like you're amazing. Of course you had a great first date

29:02

because you're fucking spunky and you're amazing, you know. So like in the

29:04

beginning, you do naturally like make up a person in your head, like,

29:10

yeah, I'm going to be in love with this person whatever however you

29:12

want to say it, but you don't really know what a person is.

29:15

And I feel like when you go down that path in the beginning of your

29:18

texting twenty four to seven, it like almost makes that even more to make

29:21

up that person in your head, and it becomes even more because you're interpreting

29:25

every text message the way you want them to say it. Yeah, I'm

29:29

kind of thinking though, you know, and I'd rather have a phone call

29:32

at that point. Like I'm like, in the beginning, I am very guilty of like being a text tex text extent like I want to. I'm

29:37

like, I think I'm like a puppy dog, Like I think I do

29:41

do it a lot, but I do understand like the dangers of that because then it's like you don't want you want to say, why not save that

29:45

for like when you're with him? But but do you feel that if you're

29:48

not getting those responses the same way? Are you interpreting that as like,

29:52

oh, this person isn't interested? Yeah, Like would you be mad if

29:56

someone will if they're there at work? Or like you know, sometimes you're

29:59

driving into just reply okay, yeah. I think actually that happened with my

30:03

current partner in the beginning, Like, but I just I just learned.

30:07

I was like, oh, he's just not really a text her, like

30:10

you know, that's just not his motive of communication. Or he's literally fucking

30:15

busy. He has ten different jobs. So it was definitely was a learning

30:18

curve for me. But because my phone was attached to twenty four to seven,

30:22

Like yeah, and like I used to never use emojis for years until

30:26

I started working. I never used emojis until I started working at Facebook.

30:32

On Facebook, we had we were forced to, yeah, contract we had

30:37

it was there was like a like an informal group message collaborative thing where they

30:44

would send emotions and I felt like I was being judged by not so I

30:48

started using them and now, but I used to never use them and is

30:55

like a bit A lot of people would be like, oh, it sounds so dry a you sound like you're upset. Yeah, And it's like maybe

31:00

I just I think it's more healthy not to text someone twenty four to seven.

31:04

I think like it makes your in person conversations better. It keeps you

31:10

from being a delusional ass bitch. People do not owe you twenty four to

31:15

seven conversations and check ins. And you know, I'm also glued to my

31:19

phone too. It's very different me, Like when I'm scrolling on Instagram,

31:23

I don't think I'm like on my phone, Like, how do you text

31:26

someone and talk to someone like you need your attention? You're talking to people

31:29

like same. Sometimes when I wake up in the morning, I don't like

31:32

talking to anyone and silating my coffee. So sometimes my friends will call me first thing, well probably not first thing to them, because they're normal human

31:37

beings that wake up in a normal morning time, don't work nights like me,

31:41

but like, I'll be working up first thing in the afternoon and like,

31:45

and I can't wait to hear what they have to stand now. They

31:47

probably have a story or something happened, or you know, they're literally just

31:51

calling to say hi and have a conversation, but like I generally don't have

31:53

the energy for them, so like I'll like decline it and they'll see me

31:56

sharing something, but it's like I'm like that doesn't count really awake on my

32:00

phone, Like I'm like my brain is half dead right now, you know,

32:04

Like of course I'm always on my phone too, but it's totally different

32:07

when you're like having actual conversations. And also we have to remember like the

32:10

whole cell phone thing, like it's I mean, it's it's been around for

32:15

most of our lives now, but it's still very new in many ways,

32:17

and you have like like no one used to be available on hand like that,

32:22

like we are now, so we have to or we're learning how to

32:25

set boundaries with it. I saw this real on Instagram that said something about

32:30

like only text when you're trying to like set a date or like like if

32:37

you're dating someone, like that premature stage is like text them to set your

32:42

next date when you're going to meet or the next if you're if you're scheduling

32:45

the phone cloud or like if you're going to meet up somewhere like try to

32:49

stick to to let that be what you mostly are texting about. Not obviously

32:54

not just that because that sounds like corporate, but like like like i'll put

32:59

here, the calendar there, but it's mainly like like you're taking it back

33:04

and forth a little bit throughout the day, but the end goal is to

33:07

set that next day of Oh, we're going to see each other on this day at this place, so I'm gonna pick you up. That's what I'm

33:12

pretty much doing. I think it's mostly with your schedule. I'll text her

33:15

every once in a while so you know I'm still alive. But maybe I'm

33:19

glad you brought that up because I did want to bring up this other situation

33:23

and kind of goes with my story too, of uh, Carpenter Bay goes

33:27

to me for a week. So this girl she is going viral on TikTok

33:31

because I forgot what she put on her first slide. It was like POV

33:36

we don't wait for men or something. I don't know. The second side

33:38

was a screenshot the guy said hey with a bunch of wies looking forward to

33:43

later. She responds, Hey, we haven't spoken in a week, and

33:46

it led me to believe you were no longer interested in our date. So,

33:50

seeing as we have a different difference in communication styles, I'm no longer

33:53

interested in going tonight. Have a good one. And some people in the

33:59

comments are saying that she's being od. Yeah, so long, that's a

34:06

long reply. That's too much. That is way too much. She's bitter

34:09

because why can't I can just be uninterested? And I have to give you

34:15

a reason why. I could just say you know what this is and that

34:20

he has four wives in it. Okay, I will say that. I

34:22

will I will say I will say that, yes, they haven't spoken for

34:32

a week. But I do think if we have plans and you don't talk

34:37

to me at least a day before to one, if our plans to text

34:42

me the day of or like an hour before, she's crazy at all.

34:46

I'm like, I think it's planning telling me and then me and not hearing

34:49

from you a week is crazy, And like, bitch, if I don't hear you from a week and we made plans, I automatically think that the

34:53

plans are canceled and I'm not going to stop me from doing anything. But

34:57

does it have to be a day before? No no, literally the middle

35:00

of the week is nice, like, hey, we're still on for this Friday? Yeah, like anythink that acknowledges we are. I do still want

35:06

to plan to date you. It doesn't have to I mean, honestly earlier

35:09

person too late. Yeah, I think same looking forward to later. If

35:14

you say you may pans me Monday or Saturday, right, Saturday, Sunday,

35:19

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, we have a date

35:21

that Saturday. You give me Saturday morning. Hey, can't wait to see you later, bitch, No, Jessica wants to go get coffee, and

35:28

that's what we're doing instead. Like because I think in the beginning, yeah,

35:30

if you're talking to someone and you guys have gone to multiple dates like

35:34

whatever, that's fine, Like I mean still I would like it, or

35:37

not even maybe maybe maybe in the beginning is when you want to like,

35:40

hey, we're still good form. Definitely, That's what I'm saying, like

35:46

at the beginning, because I definitely I would assume you either go to me

35:50

or like the plans are not on, Like I don't know you. You

35:52

could be flaky like with friends, like I do that with my friends to

35:55

this day, right, Like yeah, this Saturday, Saturday, do you

36:00

make the plan? And like, Okay, I'm gonna see you next Saturday, but I'm gonna be busy as fucked so like you know, you know,

36:06

we don't know about the conversations they had, Like no, she's saying

36:09

they didn't have any conversations. Though she's saying, hey, I haven't heard

36:12

from you in a week, like and and I respect her, like she's

36:15

being direct, like you know, our communications are different. You could go

36:19

a week without you can make plans with me on Monday and be like,

36:21

yeah, that bitch, we'll keep it till seven days. And I could go without talking to you. But that's just not my style. So we're

36:24

just not gonna work out. So I don't think she's crazy, Like she's

36:28

like, this is right. I actually agree. I like because she's almost

36:30

saying she's almost saying, look, I think it's fucked up. I'm not

36:34

gonna hold you for it. That's the kind of person you are. This is the kind of person I am. It's not gonna work out. Let

36:37

me ask you this, then, let me ask you ladies this. Why

36:42

didn't she reach out the day before too? Is that? Like, does

36:45

she not do it because she expected to do it. No, No,

36:49

I want to know. Like, I'm like, because if she wanted to

36:52

see him, why not shoot him a text? Two? Or does she

36:57

feel like I'm not gonna shot on the girl if she does that, I

37:00

don't do whatever some whatever text you want. But there is something I don't

37:05

know if it's a pride thing. It makes me feel desperate in a way.

37:10

Okay, you know, like I guess, I guess we want to

37:13

give you an opportunity if you want to fuck up, we want to give

37:15

you that opportunity to do so, Like say, yeah, you are an

37:19

asshole and you you were actually planning on never hitting me again? Like what

37:22

do I look like? Hitting you at? Being like hey are we still there? And you're like, oh no, bitch, I'm trying to go

37:25

ste like stop interrupting me. I don't know. It's hard to explain,

37:29

but I do feel like if you're the one that made the plans, you kind of have the responsibility to follow up. Yeah, I agree, But

37:37

if a girl does do it, it's not bad, Like yeah, like

37:40

I wouldn't consider it. I wouldn't take it as like, oh, you're

37:45

really trying to see me like I would actually think like, oh, that's that's nice, you're following up. But I don't have that mindset of damn,

37:52

you must hella want me or you must no. And I'm not saying if a girl I wouldn't call her desperate either. I think it's the if

37:59

you are doing that bad, Like I guess it's just like we don't know we I guess, yeah, exactly, we shouldn't expect to do it.

38:05

I guess you can do it, But like I think he expectation is that

38:09

a man will like I also feel like she's assuming that this person or this

38:15

guy is like ignored her for a whole week and like hated her, like

38:19

or I don't know, Like I just I feel like if a week went

38:22

by and like there was no text at all and nobody made like the attempt,

38:27

and now we're here on the day that the plan that we made and

38:30

he's like, hey, looking forward to later, and she's like, no,

38:34

because you didn't do what I expected you to do, which was to

38:37

text me and to check in with me. I'm actually deciding that I'm going

38:40

to create a boundary which go off, go off you that is your boundary

38:45

that you want someone to text you like the day before. Yeah, and I totally I would want that too. I would want like a check in

38:50

as well. But we just don't know, like what happened within this one

38:53

week span of time. Maybe he's a fucking directing a movie and like he's

38:58

on I don't know, you know, maybe he's just like he's jet like

39:02

jet setting around. I want to I want to make sure I go on

39:05

a date with that guy. You know, even you never know people's lives. So instead of her like making the exception and be like, you didn't

39:10

want to communicate with me, and that's not how I communicate period. It's

39:14

like you're not even giving him the benefit of the doubt to like explain himself. My nosey ass would be like, well, base, where the fuck

39:19

you've been if I was even that interested in them? So obviously it doesn't

39:22

seem like she wasn't even that interested in to begin with. I think,

39:25

hm, dating is so hard. I agree with you, and I don't

39:30

agree with you. I think I just admire her in a way because I've

39:32

been the person many times trying to be cool about it or given the benefit

39:37

of the doubt. I don't mind doing that. But there is something about

39:42

I don't know, she like she knows what she wants, and she's like,

39:45

hey, this ain't cool to me, so I'm cutting it off.

39:49

I don't like I did this, Like, but shouldn't it be a conversation

39:52

first? Right if she liked? Obviously if you don't know, but what's

39:55

that conversation? I like people who what she said, yeah, like,

40:00

we haven't spoken in a week, and it led me to believe that you're

40:04

no longer interested. So he never said I'm not interested. It led her

40:07

to believe right, Like, so she's interpreting. So the only thing I

40:10

agree is like, okay, maybe that was a lot for her to like

40:13

end the whole thing. Sure, but like I think at that point she's

40:15

like, I don't want someone like she's over it right wherever that made her over it? But I would I think my text would have been like,

40:22

I assumed you weren't interested in this date anymore? Yeah, there we go.

40:24

But then if they say no, I definitely am checked out me because

40:29

I made plans to like, because I will say okay, maybe I think just what I will say, just regular decorum, like exactly even if we

40:37

weren't dating. Like, Yeah, I think that's rude at fuck to like

40:39

make plans someone. I wouldn't do this to my cousin, to my friend,

40:43

to anyone, like I would check in if I did not hear from

40:45

you for seven whole days and we made plans to get coffee and you weren't like hey, Like I literally made plans with the old coworker and we text

40:51

each other, Hey, we're still going to coffee this day. In general, I think it's hella rude to not do that. I don't know,

40:55

like the guy should check in. I agree, No, I don't,

41:00

gosh, there should be someone checking in for sure, because the kind of

41:07

lifestyle all of us have right now, things are so busy, things come

41:09

up all the time, where like you could have something could have came up,

41:13

or you can't do it no more, you know, so when you check in, it's like, oh, by the way, I can't anymore,

41:17

or I can, but we gotta tweak this or whatever it is.

41:21

Also, though, I'm just she's saying we have different communication styles. Yes,

41:25

bitch, you're not gonna meet your prince charming. Okay, you're not

41:29

gonna find the perfect match and you're gonna have to work hard to like work

41:32

in a relationship. Like relationships are hard, Okay, they don't just like

41:36

happen at the click of your fingers, like we're gonna be perfect, we're

41:39

gonna talk to each Hell, oh, it doesn't work. Like it's an

41:43

every day battle. If it's worth it, then you'll make it worth it.

41:45

If it's not worth it, obviously, she's like, he must have

41:49

been ugly or something. I think it's work when you have, you know,

41:52

maybe two people who are really busy and are not used to fitting someone

41:54

else's schedule in so they're both compromising and working on how to be better at

42:00

that. But I think when it comes to like I need to help you

42:02

be a better communicator, that's more me working on you. I want to

42:07

work on the relationship, not the person or where he's at. You know.

42:14

That's like two different ways, different ways look at it. But I

42:16

think it goes back to to like, understand what your expectations are and like

42:22

you have to have a conversation on this is what my needs are when it

42:27

comes to and vice versa. And I appreciate her for putting her for sure.

42:31

Yeah, definitely, if you like them enough, I'd like to have

42:36

a conversation about it so that if it's meant, could work on it.

42:39

This is early dating this guy, like maybe she matched on HIDS and he's

42:43

like, hey, let's go out this week, and like this is so pressed. This is she's not pressed. She's saying hey, like that was

42:49

hey, we don't communicate the right like have a good life, Like we

42:52

haven't spoken in a week, and it led me to believe you were no

42:55

longer interested. That is a big assumption. That sounds like like butch and

43:06

I do believe, like do you? And we can't judge for like if that's really what she's but we don't know what she's been through. If she's

43:12

like you know what, I unless someone gets it right, I'm not even

43:14

gonna be in you know, make an attempt. And that's great too,

43:19

ab issue. I don't think she's like that press. I think she barely

43:24

knows this person. So I think it's even easier for her to be like

43:30

red Flag and I don't even know you like that. I'm not into you enough to be like this is something we could work at or a relationship I

43:35

see we can maybe fix down the road. Like, I already know by

43:39

the way you acted now you're not the one for me. And you know

43:43

what, I take my answer back about both sides being able to check in.

43:46

I mean, it's not the end of the world whoever sends that text.

43:50

But at the end of the day, this is a man who set

43:52

up a date said Hey, let's get dinner. She responds, yes,

43:58

I would love to have dinner with you. Can't wait, puts it in

44:00

our calendar. Technically I sent the last text. I agreed to it.

44:04

Like the least you can do is is text me back and follow up and

44:07

be like, hey, are we still on? Because I already know that you agreed to it. I literally said I'm in so you could follow up.

44:12

And it's not even following up. It's just simply confirming the plans that

44:15

you made. It's just confirming because say something does come up in that week,

44:21

because life happens and you can't go on this date anymore. Bitch,

44:25

Why am I the one texting you first and so you could tell me no

44:28

like you should have been text me, Hey, the plans aren't gonna work out. So I had to text you so for you to like tell yeah,

44:35

So no, a guy needs to following. What if you knew that

44:38

it was a no, Like something came up, like I asked you out,

44:43

you say yes, I haven't reached out yet, and then something comes

44:45

up where you're like, oh, damn, I can't go anymore. Are you gonna wait until I reach out to tell me no? I know?

44:52

Yeah, that's like, oh, I'm texting you know what. I'm texting you before the fucking day of our date. Like that's when you'd be like,

44:59

hey, you know what, something came up for canceling. I'm definitely

45:01

gonna let you know, but before the day, Like I think making any

45:05

kind of plans that day is rude and like you probably didn't want to be.

45:09

I'm dead at the I'm at her ending with have a good one.

45:15

But I gave her prose for like like you all said, she knows what

45:19

she wants period and maybe she's waiting for it, like unless you you show

45:22

up? Do you guys think she was being My first word was insecure,

45:27

and I was like, let me are rewind that that was the first thing

45:29

I said. Now that I'm thinking about the beginning, yeah, yeah,

45:34

because for real, if it was me, I would if I was in

45:37

her shoes, and I was mad that somebody took a week to solidify the

45:40

plan and see if I'm still down for the plans. If it was me

45:44

in that situation, I would be mad, but at the instant of them

45:47

being like are we still down for tonight and be like out of myself and

45:53

maybe like no, exactly such a losing Yeah, I'm actually here at the

46:05

barady you drink. You guys just want to be her already here want to

46:17

drinks. We just want to be loved. Okay, you know, I'm

46:22

trying to see all a few points here, but I think like if I

46:27

was the guy, like i'd be like, Okay, I didn't message her

46:29

all week, so I get it, but like you ain't got to hit

46:32

me with the whole paragraph. Yeah, yeah, she's my hero because if

46:37

it was me, I would have folded. I would have folded, because

46:42

if you were okay with something and then like they give you the slightest bit

46:46

of you guys think it before it doesn't work out good. I go on

46:51

that day and it ends up being really great and you realize like, oh

46:53

damn, like like it could be better with somebodydeo to write who takes the

47:00

time to confirm plans, because I see a girl who just saw one red

47:05

flag and told herself these are problems I don't want to deal with down the

47:09

road, because a lot of times we do we're the cool girl, or

47:14

we ignore the red flag, give the benefit of the doubt, think it's

47:17

something we could work on, and then later down the road we're like,

47:20

oh shit, it's not just one red flag. It's a circus in this

47:24

bitch, because because you really can't change people. You can't change people.

47:30

I'm thinking of the Bridesmaids, like people change, but they really say the

47:35

same. Literally, you cannot change someone. Oh my god. Yeah maybe

47:42

yeah, all the whys too, like he's actually gay because it's too many

47:47

wise stranger. Yeah, I want to remember text you two weeks ago.

48:00

She's valid, she's valid, but that chill, what do you call?

48:07

You can consolidate this, like, I guess, like you can be more

48:10

concise, you know, Okay, it's not that long of a text,

48:14

you guys. It's like, I think she was pretty. I think she

48:17

was pretty conciseed. I think she was pretty concise. Actually, I know

48:21

because the first whole two sentences you don't need. I think it was a

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perfect, perfectly constructed text. I think she said what she needs to say,

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but I do think there are assumptions that were made. But I also think her mind was made up and she didn't want to be with him anymore.

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And that's fine. Next to that. Next, I don't say that.

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Next I would have folded. That's what I have to say. That's

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okay, that's not a bad you know, because you can go in and

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you can still hold your ground on the date, you know, Yeah,

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you're gonna get hopefully a free meal or I still want to win. If

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it went terrible, I would have text literally that for the record, maybe

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at this bar we're getting hammered, thank you, and we'll talk about it

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on the pod next week. Okay, well, I think we'll wrap it

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up there with all our texting politics. I'm going to text Carpenter way back

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and we're gonna follow. I'm gonna tek all the toxic men that are still

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that still remained in my life, right, Yeah, I love that toxic

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I love you, Aye. I mean, I don't know do people really change. I think they do, yeah, but I mean they still

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stay who they are pretty much. I think we change all the time.

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I think we stay the same, but grow, I guess a little bit.

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I think if you're growing, then you're changing. But I mean we're

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changing from who we are, which we always stay as. No, really,

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I don't think so, think so. I know it even brick just

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a sack. It just a sack. It just a sack. It just

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allock, just all the sack. It the record