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geomancy and other arcane

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this across and welcome how are you doing night

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on , very well chris thanks for having me

5:00

me thank you so much for joining us is going to be

5:02

also really been looking forward to speaking with you

5:05

you research really covers some of my

5:07

favorite topics hidden history

5:09

ancient cataclysms called mysteries

5:12

and so much more and since you know

5:14

this is your first time on i'd

5:16

love to hear a little bit about

5:18

would really got to first

5:21

off into freemason we and was it

5:24

the involvement in freemasonry

5:26

that got you interested

5:28

in ancient mysteries and cataclysms

5:31

or was it the other way around it

5:33

was the other way around

5:35

i

5:37

i got interested in

5:39

start getting very interested in earth's history

5:42

right outta high school pretty much i

5:46

spent a lotta time in the outdoors hiking

5:48

traveling around

5:50

and camping out day

5:52

and

5:54

generally be by ninety by a

5:56

take couple of years out of high school i said spam

5:59

you know

5:59

there's are in rocky mountains

6:02

and in utah in washington

6:04

state see in idaho the

6:07

and i got really interested

6:09

in geology about that time

6:11

and versus being late sixties early

6:13

seventies was also very interesting time

6:15

politically if you think

6:17

in terms of the spiritual evolution of the human

6:20

species on this planet it was kind of

6:22

a very interesting time because it was

6:24

a definitely a period of interplanetary

6:28

pollen is a sin i would sake

6:31

i would describe it as that because it was

6:33

a such an exchange of ideas

6:35

that was taking place during that

6:37

time ideas coming in from lots

6:40

of different cultures it up in a way

6:42

that it was unprecedented at that

6:44

time and plus all

6:46

the political upheavals the experimentation

6:49

and consciousness of was going on among

6:51

so many folks many there's a lot of things

6:54

forces and influences converging

6:57

at that particular time but so

6:59

are those things were kind of the

7:01

played their part as well

7:03

and i had

7:06

i had the i guess it's a the like to draw

7:08

to get exposed to some very interesting people

7:10

during that time that dot me

7:12

settings and awakened interest in some

7:15

of these subject matters

7:18

started to sixty nine seventy

7:20

seventy one seventy ,

7:22

and knows years is kinda where i really started

7:25

asking , of questions

7:27

you're looking at the world around me

7:29

and it really getting curious about

7:32

you know having the instinctive level that

7:34

whatever i had learned that there was a lot

7:36

more to the story

7:38

there

7:39

you know that sort of what the mainstream

7:42

was presenting that became obvious to me

7:44

even though i couldn't really formulated

7:46

to myself i couldn't necessarily

7:49

coherently sake through and okay

7:51

i know that dot you know the

7:55

way things are now is not the way things

7:57

always have been you know i

7:59

had learned geology at that point

8:01

to know that the idea behind

8:03

geology was that every thing

8:05

happened with this interminable slowness

8:08

gradually stickley arm and

8:12

you know it was coupled the idea geological

8:16

gradualism or uniformity was

8:18

also a couple very much with the ideas of

8:20

darwinian evolution it was

8:22

taking place very incrementally

8:25

not even noticeable from one generation

8:27

to the next but old cumulative

8:29

overly long periods of time

8:32

you would essentially get then

8:34

he would have a continuum india's have a species

8:36

at one end and a different species that the

8:38

other end of that continuum but the whole

8:40

process was was are very

8:43

it was it was almost in discernably

8:45

slow likewise with earth changes

8:48

and so those

8:50

were ideas that ideas kind of begin

8:52

to become aware of in of in

8:54

that this was farming a backdrop against

8:57

which all thinking about our own history

9:01

what's taking place and

9:03

the same time i looked at

9:06

i get very interested in in the whole question

9:08

of consciousness change and

9:12

as a consequence of that a sport a lotta

9:14

different traditions spiritual traditions religious

9:16

traditions you

9:19

know philosophical traditions

9:22

ideas about this about this first really

9:24

get started getting exposed to ideas

9:26

of eschatological the idea of the

9:28

end of the world kind of scenario

9:30

rights and having

9:33

spent a lot of time in a western states and

9:35

really and having grown up in rural minnesota

9:38

we spent a lot of time up and in northern minnesota

9:41

and do a lot of

9:43

a native americans up there and we used to go up

9:45

there and in

9:47

okay she was my grandfather and stuff know be a

9:49

lot of native americans and course i

9:51

didn't have a lot of interaction with them but i

9:53

knew that there was this other culture they are and

9:56

you know as i came of age i lived

9:59

in minneapolis

10:00

in nineteen seventy one during the

10:02

this the siege avast

10:05

it does

10:06

the pine ridge in south

10:08

dakota there was the wounded knee

10:11

whole situation and i

10:14

happened to be living within the native

10:16

american

10:17

section of minneapolis dot

10:19

on franklin avenue i have

10:21

they with a friend an apartment they are nice

10:24

would look out the window the apartment

10:26

out of the parking lot right on the other side of the parking

10:28

lot was the american indian movement headquarters

10:30

sauce

10:31

i

10:32

they added some of the dirt demonstrations were

10:34

them and went to some of the stuff and at that point

10:37

i kinda got exposed and get kind of got

10:39

interested in the culture of

10:41

the native american people and

10:44

down that led me into

10:48

going into some native american

10:50

mythology which i found

10:52

interesting because as because kid a kid just

10:54

orderly fascinated and obsessed

10:56

with

10:57

the biology reading the greek

10:59

myths and the the the nor smith's

11:02

particularly which is the stuff i had access

11:04

to so

11:05

or head is interested in myth emit interest

11:08

in mythology and then the

11:10

little bit of exposure that i had to native american

11:12

traditions american quickly saw

11:15

that they're worse parallels

11:20

surfer you inspired

11:23

curiosity i would say about

11:25

the parallels came about and

11:28

and damn then

11:31

i studied where they are a brahmin priest

11:33

there in

11:35

a d who was a sanskrit

11:37

professor to university of minnesota for two

11:39

years and studied meditation

11:41

and ah brom

11:44

, ritual which was very interesting

11:47

and threw him and threw

11:50

the himalayan swami swami rama

11:52

studied with him and learn

11:54

these techniques and traditions of

11:56

the shocker atari and atari succession

11:58

of masters and things

11:59

in some of the traditions of of yoga

12:02

and at which led me to

12:04

them reading into the evaders

12:08

so as irradiated of a

12:10

it is ah here

12:12

again for parallels

12:14

oh the stories you begin to see that

12:17

but what eventually after ten years of

12:19

of these kinds of exposures

12:21

i came to this realization that was

12:23

like each of these traditions was like you know

12:25

different fingers and you just

12:27

if you're just looking at the fingers you look for separate

12:30

fingers but really they're part of the same hand

12:32

see and that's kind of what of

12:35

what to to dawn on me it

12:37

it took ten years before enough

12:39

pieces fell into place and

12:42

in the summer nineteen seventy two

12:45

i was with this group we were a a

12:48

it was a yoga group studying under this

12:50

brahmin priest with the

12:53

who was in turn studying

12:56

under swami ,

12:58

and we bought land in northern

13:01

minnesota in the in the woods up there and

13:03

we we there was an architect

13:05

into group in he was very much inspired

13:07

by work of buckminster fuller if

13:09

you ever heard of buckminster fuller he was buckminster

13:12

the was a man was hearsay later yeah

13:14

yeah clicked on so anyways

13:16

he designed a couple of don't

13:20

structures based upon part

13:22

fuller geometry and one of them

13:24

was a melding of fuller's geometry

13:26

with concepts from islamic

13:29

geometry and so my

13:31

father

13:33

was a builder carpenter builder

13:35

who built many houses and in this

13:37

group there was myself and my two younger brothers

13:39

and between , three

13:42

of us we had most of the carpentry building

13:44

experience so

13:47

when it went time to build these

13:49

two buckner these two fuller

13:51

domes up in minnesota northerner

13:53

soda sort of we got drafted

13:56

to be i guess you'd say lead carpenters

13:59

and so then and

13:59

figuring out how to build

14:02

these things using the geodesic

14:04

geometry

14:06

i got very very interesting and stimulating

14:08

which led me into a study buckminster

14:10

fuller and buckminster fuller

14:12

geometry his work and synergetic

14:16

so we built these two are dogs

14:19

and one of i'm the one that was particularly

14:21

influenced by the design of an islamic

14:23

mosque was featured in a national

14:26

publication called shelter which

14:28

i think it's sit right on my

14:30

yelp over there i might grab it if we have

14:32

a break or something but anyway since was featured

14:35

in this in this book shelter which

14:37

was a book that was

14:40

the

14:41

presenting a either ideas

14:43

of of building and design and architecture

14:46

from all of these married cultures around

14:49

the world right i mean

14:52

anything you could possibly take up would have been

14:54

in there you know from here it's tough you

14:56

know to to teepees to

14:59

the rate even a glue something that was covered

15:01

the whole gamut of shelters

15:04

that people lived in but not only

15:06

lived in but also worship the and and

15:08

worked in and so on so this

15:12

thing this project that we belt was

15:14

featured in their publication and it was

15:16

given was whole page right up and it was it was

15:18

oversized lastly

15:21

for his slickly produced publication

15:24

and of course because course handiwork

15:26

was featured in arrived in there in procured

15:28

a copy of it and once

15:31

i got and i started reading into the history of

15:33

architecture in these all these different

15:35

manifestations and there

15:37

was some treatments sundance have

15:39

some of the proportion systems that were used

15:42

in some of the geometry the principles of geometry

15:45

that were used

15:47

the develop these these tablets in these

15:50

patterns or whether it was

15:53

you know a gothic cathedral or is it

15:55

in islamic mascara are mascara

15:58

buddhist temple

15:59

what was interesting was that there was

16:02

similarities in their execution

16:04

in your design in their conception even though

16:06

they might have manifested materially

16:09

very i'm very distinctly

16:12

obviously if you look at a buddhist temple linked

16:14

in thailand cambodia compared

16:17

to an egyptian temple you if you

16:19

know you're not going to have any mistaking which mistaking

16:21

which are you rights think about

16:23

think about temple a a buddhist

16:26

temple in cambodia and

16:28

and in egyptian temples okay they all look

16:30

very differ don't i mean you'd have no

16:33

trouble distinguishing this is

16:35

great as opposed to egyptian

16:37

right

16:38

in in your come into native american you can

16:40

look at our into the americas

16:42

and you've got my m culture mayan temple

16:44

it's and and again the same say

16:46

you're in a mayan temple has a very

16:49

distinct outer manifestation

16:52

but underlying all of these

16:54

there's a sort of a com and temple

16:57

and this is kind of what i became

16:59

aware of by

17:01

in this book shelter and it was

17:03

first place i really ever in that i can

17:05

recall encountered the idea of the golden

17:07

six it gave a little

17:10

brief description of the golden section and

17:12

how was derived geometrically that

17:14

this was nineteen seventy three wind

17:16

up when the book came out so by

17:18

, from the time i got outta high school

17:21

and sixty nine to nineteen seventy

17:23

three is when really

17:25

dc actress all solidify they

17:27

should attend the geometry came in near the

17:29

building because i've since that time that

17:31

was seventy four was when i

17:34

really began in

17:36

the construction industry seventy

17:38

sixers when i went on my own established

17:40

my own

17:41

business and then during

17:44

the eighties is when i joined forces

17:47

with my brother and we became a design build

17:50

the people would come to us dot

17:52

i target in the seventies the

17:55

engineering courses and drafting courses

17:57

to learn how to do geometric drawing

17:59

the i could draw plants so

18:02

that was the launching of the of the business end

18:04

of it but i continued my studies and all

18:06

of these various areas that doesn't interest

18:09

me i did

18:11

though i get i went to college for but

18:13

three years i'm majoring

18:16

in geology with some classes

18:18

in astronomy and mathematics

18:20

primarily but i'd have to confess

18:23

i'm a drop out i

18:25

had had going on and having

18:27

a business

18:29

but my purpose in studying geology

18:32

was not

18:33

looking for on a career

18:37

you know a neat freak with government or in

18:39

the energy industry only a that might

18:42

my

18:43

i'm majoring in geology

18:46

was because of might interest in earth's

18:48

history as an avocation i

18:50

already had already vocation

18:52

right what i had was in

18:55

my spare time

18:57

i didn't do a lot of the things that you know quote

18:59

unquote normal people do like they

19:01

didn't watch much tv i i

19:04

didn't have a lot of interest in sports others

19:07

and my own activities being

19:09

out hiking and things like that primarily

19:11

swimming and canoeing those are the

19:13

things i like to do but that didn't

19:15

require a lot of time and

19:17

of course when you're hiking and you are

19:19

sitting geology

19:21

the to can go hop the hand in hand

19:23

you know you could you can kill two birds

19:25

with one stone

19:26

so

19:29

that's kind of the the background of a growing up

19:31

in rural minnesota even early

19:33

on i got very interested

19:35

in we had

19:37

to set it as a tremendously clear

19:40

sky at night back in the fifties

19:42

when i was a little kid and

19:44

member many times my dad my being

19:46

out at night you know when i'm learning

19:48

to identify the star sites yeah

19:51

probably from the age of seven i did

19:53

quickly identify polaris and know

19:55

my way norse you know i

19:57

knew how to find the big dipper from the big dipper

19:59

i could

19:59

polaris but then it went beyond bad

20:02

i should know cassiopeia and

20:04

then awry and and end of the

20:06

the tar a taurus the bull so

20:08

the ice your i got to love of the stars

20:11

in astronomy and then

20:13

when i was nine for my birthday

20:16

maybe it was christmas i don't remember which my

20:18

mother gave me that a subscription

20:20

to the all about book club in

20:23

every month

20:24

the new book would come at it might be

20:26

one month all about electricity

20:28

the next month's all about reptiles

20:31

next month all about the planets

20:33

in every month i would wait the you

20:35

know with anticipation i would get the book

20:37

in that i would devour usually within a

20:40

few days

20:41

those part of it having having your

20:44

family's was supportive of yeah

20:46

the of the mind

20:49

you know my dad was an independent guy work

20:51

for himself him and my grandfather had

20:53

a company together carlson and sun

20:55

and they designed and built about two

20:58

hundred houses so growing

21:00

, around the building in the construction

21:03

you know i have lots of the toys i played

21:05

with were as a kid were blocks

21:07

that both my dad and my grandfather would make

21:09

block sets likes my father

21:11

would make interlocking blocked

21:13

sets that you know he would more distant

21:16

ten and these pieces pieces together

21:18

and all kinds of ways to produce

21:21

different kinds of buildings and shapes

21:23

and things like that i'm sad

21:26

lot of those kind of toys which i think new

21:28

know in retrospect are now that have lot

21:30

to do with it because you

21:32

know when you're four five six years old

21:34

and those are you are lot of the toys are

21:36

playing with playing addition to the regular toys

21:39

good sadness the fifties which was

21:42

things you know i'm anyway

21:44

so that's kind of it you know grown up outside

21:47

the one other thing i will mention

21:49

we grew up which was northwest of minneapolis

21:52

was right on the margin of

21:55

the

21:55

the superior lobe

21:58

of the lauren tied ice sheet

21:59

so where we lived

22:02

the was reckless minnesota has fifteen

22:05

thousand glacier

22:07

lake right just a great

22:09

glaciers came down over minnesota wisconsin

22:12

and when they received it back and they melted

22:15

they laugh

22:16

you know

22:17

thousands and thousands of lakes which are

22:19

basically the meltwater puzzle puddles

22:22

we had land on one

22:24

of those little meltwater puddles that was

22:26

therefore my will widen not quarter mile

22:28

wide and three quarters of my along side

22:31

group

22:32

pretty much right on their plate

22:34

fourteen it's vicinity

22:36

so ah

22:38

one of the things was that where

22:40

we lived was right where the margin

22:43

of the icy was so in periods of expansion

22:46

we would have been under the ice and

22:48

had periods of recession we would have

22:50

been exposed and so for tens of thousands

22:52

of years we read this in

22:54

this region where that

22:56

would be regular glacial encroachments

22:59

and in recession so the whole landscape

23:01

was shaped

23:03

hi

23:04

the glaciers and the presence of these glaciers

23:06

so early , i met my

23:09

i think with my dad showed me a picture of in

23:11

a book that was was was

23:13

from a was a picture

23:15

show a showing illustrations of

23:17

what the i see to unlock i am seven

23:19

or eight years old and say well this

23:21

was you know where we lived know and so one

23:24

of the places we used to go regularly

23:27

as a kid one for weekend outings

23:29

was on the st croix river which

23:31

forms the border between minnesota

23:33

and wisconsin and there's

23:35

, place up there called interstate park

23:38

and i don't think was called us back then but

23:40

we used to go there and it was basalt

23:43

outcrops next to in this where

23:45

the net river valley narrows and are

23:47

some basalt outcrops there's

23:49

that the surface of these outcrops or maybe

23:52

sixty seventy feet above the river

23:54

river we should go there is kids and i'm what

23:57

makes these place unique as these place of

23:59

giant potholes

24:01

round holes that are drilled

24:04

into the bedrock and

24:06

i'm never going to are particularly my grandmother

24:08

my grandmother my dad side like that place and

24:10

we would go up there with i would go with her and dot

24:13

in my grandfather

24:15

it was

24:16

she would explain that was made by water

24:19

you know when the when

24:21

there were glaciers suicide lot more water

24:23

and a traded these particles and things

24:26

and then there was some

24:28

the places i've told the story but in nineteen

24:30

sixty nine there was a out on

24:32

the young where the minnesota river

24:34

right there south minneapolis near

24:37

minneapolis saint paul minnesota

24:39

river in the mississippi river converge

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you're not just keeping a com your

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tv in it cool

25:17

i've gone cold brew and not just

25:20

any cold brew but one that slow seat

25:22

and mix with brown sugar and molasses

25:24

flavor with , cold foam infused

25:26

with brown sugar coolness and a cinnamon

25:29

sugar sprinkle on top top

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keeping a calm cool and

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25:43

to the west of there is a

25:45

flat theory on a bluff looking

25:47

above the minnesota river valleys

25:50

the bluffs about two hundred feet

25:52

there about two hundred foot high bluffs

25:55

and the river valley in this one place

25:57

called up

25:58

called eden prairie

25:59

there's an airport do he and the

26:02

used to have

26:03

just outside the airport back in

26:06

the summers in the late sixties they would

26:08

have

26:08

set up a stage out the field and they would have rock

26:11

concerts

26:12

there

26:14

i went to have no idea probably local

26:16

bad item

26:17

the would remember who is planar but you know

26:20

though they're here the rock concerts and

26:22

three or four different occasions in summer sixty

26:25

nine and once nineteen sixty nine one

26:27

of these occasions i a break

26:29

into music or whatever i wandered off

26:32

away from the crowd is gathered

26:34

under the flat areas of the flat

26:37

at the top of these blocks that's why there's such other

26:39

there's a mean our our county airport

26:42

right there but , wandered away

26:44

and and walked over to the edge of the bluff

26:46

and i was looking out over the minnesota

26:48

river valley and three miles

26:50

away in the distance you could see there was another

26:52

set of bluffs

26:54

right and then

26:57

down in the valley below me

26:59

the modern minnesota river rights

27:02

and as i'm looking now at the

27:05

minnesota river in exploring and and

27:07

it it's there's a bank on either

27:09

side the little are

27:12

you know vertical displacement and

27:14

then a flat area kind of a flood plain

27:16

area and there's the river right and

27:18

i'm looking at that and then

27:20

looking at i'm sitting

27:23

at his bluff and i'm looking at us opposite blas

27:26

and

27:27

i got this serves

27:29

that looks like a little version of what i'm seeing

27:32

here

27:33

it was a it was a vague sense

27:35

of scale invariance

27:38

i had no idea what

27:41

the of the concept of scale and variants

27:43

at that time but it was just this

27:45

this in the it was it a very distinct

27:47

impression that i had that

27:50

stay with me

27:52

still to this day i think about it even to the point

27:54

where about three or four years ago was back in minnesota

27:57

and i went ass with found i

27:59

think it was the say

27:59

spark it was sitting

28:02

when i saw that

28:04

in the interim

28:05

though apparently it had been logged

28:08

off sometime before

28:10

the time that i

28:12

the for nineteen sixty nine became

28:14

and is considerably grub the whole

28:16

valley had grown over there were now it was

28:19

green and forested and it was some development

28:22

in there so the striking

28:24

similarity between the small

28:26

and the large was no longer

28:28

was obvious as it was sixty

28:32

nine but nonetheless

28:34

that was candidate in i would say growing

28:36

up

28:37

in a rural environment with a lot of

28:39

i'm out spend outdoors ah

28:42

, where a lot of it started and then then

28:45

a voracious reader from an early age

28:47

and be interested in these kinds of subject

28:49

so those are canada

28:52

the the foundation

28:54

stones of

28:55

everything i could kind of doing since has been

28:58

following in those pathways

29:01

yeah that's that's really

29:03

club meeting the sub pretty interesting places

29:06

definitely sounds like a boy a definitely

29:08

sounds like it i mean that's that's a fascinating

29:12

bio , lie so far far

29:14

know when we're talking about ancient cataclysms

29:17

i've cataclysms i've mainly

29:20

similar researchers that i've had on you know the most

29:22

important date as deal twelve thousand

29:25

and twelve thousand five hundred years ago

29:27

there's a major cataclysm that reset everything

29:30

but there's evidence of multiple

29:33

major cataclysms that could have been complete

29:35

resets throughout history right

29:37

absolutely absolutely there's evidence

29:39

of multiple catastrophes now

29:42

amongst catastrophes

29:43

the twelve thousand eight hundred twelve thousand nine

29:46

hundred i think is what we would what is now

29:48

usually be referred to as the younger dries boundaries

29:50

that one does stand out it's

29:53

probably the most i would think

29:56

it's almost certainly

29:58

the most catastrophic

29:59

revamped of the last three to five

30:02

million years and but

30:04

that's not say the to i mean never been there was about

30:06

major bronze age catastrophe that

30:08

could have

30:10

reduce the global population by

30:12

more than half maybe

30:14

three quarters there

30:17

but other contenders catastrophe at about

30:19

eight thousand three hundred years ago where there was a

30:21

global ah suddenly

30:23

the temperature dropped precipitously

30:26

in a very quick short period

30:28

of time right , the middle actually

30:31

of the what's called higher holocene optimum

30:33

climatic optimum which was

30:35

the media posts glacial era which was

30:37

actually quite warm up to

30:39

one to three degrees warmer

30:42

the under current warm period that worrying which

30:44

is a well established by

30:46

scientific studies projects scientific

30:49

studies from that time including

30:51

evidence of higher sea levels including

30:53

levels of

30:56

boreal forests are

30:58

shifting their rangers plants

31:00

that grow at altitudes you know

31:03

the able to grow three hundred four hundred

31:05

eight hundred feet higher the negro

31:07

now

31:09

multiple lines of evidence of

31:11

have converged on and on the idea that

31:13

the holocene climatic optimal month optimum

31:16

was warmer than now

31:18

okay but then we had

31:21

pure a period that looks like it was a very

31:23

are catastrophic disruption at about

31:25

eleven thousand six hundred years ago when

31:28

the younger drivers terminated there

31:30

, also what appears to been to

31:32

a catastrophic episode at fourteen

31:34

thousand six hundred years ago so

31:37

the the pleistocene

31:39

holocene transition that took place

31:42

that was who's

31:44

most obvious outward manifestation

31:46

was the shift from a glacial global

31:49

glacial environment to a global interglacial

31:51

environment really took

31:53

place over about three thousand years

31:57

the first episode and about

31:59

fourteen

31:59

there's and it apparently involves

32:02

when i say fourteen six i mean fourteen thousand six

32:04

hundred years ago which apparently involved

32:06

a very rapid and accelerated

32:09

melting of the great ice sheets on

32:12

, then that was followed by a

32:14

relatively gradual warming that

32:16

was pretty much consistent with them along to

32:18

bitch aging orbital

32:20

geometries between earth and sun but

32:23

, not was interrupted at about two between

32:25

twelve thousand eight hundred and twelve thousand nine hundred

32:28

years ago ago another advantage

32:30

apparently produced pass some

32:32

very catastrophic melting but

32:35

also associated with some

32:37

the major fire

32:39

are there

32:40

incendiary of amazon or perhaps

32:42

see them global scale and

32:45

dot that was where

32:46

wanted a major episodes of

32:48

megafon like stinks it's took place

32:51

was at this younger dry as boundary and boundary

32:53

and that was the inception of the younger driest

32:56

the termination of the under driest

32:58

was another

33:00

catastrophic period so

33:02

see those three alone the

33:05

the the cumulative consequence

33:07

of those three events was

33:10

sea level the total sea level rise

33:13

of about four hundred c

33:16

a major shift of biomes around

33:18

the planet the disappearance of about six

33:20

million cubic miles of ice on

33:23

which is what caused the sea level rise

33:25

or the extinction of about half

33:28

of all animal species over one hundred

33:30

pounds of body weight

33:31

globally arm the

33:33

collapse of the clovis culture

33:37

major the temperature shifts

33:40

there was

33:41

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the you think that one was caused by a

34:27

an asteroid impact well

34:29

didn't

34:30

the asteroid signature is

34:33

very strong at the twelve thousand

34:35

eight hundred twelve thousand nine hundred i'll say

34:37

the top point a twelve point nine the

34:40

younger driest boundary the inception of

34:42

the us the asteroid signature is very

34:44

very dominant there

34:47

i've not seen any convincing

34:49

evidence that there is an asteroid signature

34:51

of eleven thousand six hundred or the fourteen

34:54

thousand six hundred so

34:56

i'm open to the idea of

34:58

the a solar of

35:00

kind of event that that robert shock talks

35:03

about

35:04

robert his peers i

35:07

don't he may have modified his viewpoint now

35:09

he was initially are supportive

35:11

of the emit the im impact

35:13

hypothesis impact hypothesis that it might

35:16

have been a key actually a comet

35:19

then he abandoned add idea

35:22

and went full bore

35:23

or are solar of and

35:26

but ah

35:29

you may have might have a because at one

35:31

point the window the the impact

35:33

of evidence was first proposed

35:35

it was attacked by there

35:38

are factions that them

35:40

were very much opposed to it on

35:43

that marshaled ah the mainstream

35:45

press don't try to denounce the

35:47

ideas because

35:50

in retrospect what you see is that the factions

35:52

up opposing you're also tended

35:55

to be supporters of the

35:57

ah the so called blitzkrieg

35:59

the hypothesis the

36:02

the human

36:03

overkill

36:04

hunting hypothesis that the megafauna

36:08

when state primarily a result of

36:10

older hunting by humans and

36:13

, ideas been around for decades and

36:15

decades it it's sort of started falling

36:18

out of favor or in the

36:20

sixties and seventies

36:23

for multiple reasons which we could go into

36:25

if you want but

36:27

with the politicization piloted

36:29

politicization of science it has taken

36:31

place in the last few decades one

36:35

of the things now that is

36:36

part and parcel of the whole global

36:39

warming

36:40

scenario is the sixth grade mass

36:42

extinction scenario that

36:45

would you say sixth graders referring

36:47

to rid of five great mass extinctions

36:50

in earth's history the

36:52

late or division the devonian

36:55

the permian triassic the the

36:57

terminal jurassic the cretaceous tertiary

37:00

indies advance were for

37:02

us found least catastrophic

37:05

the global biosphere and the global

37:07

environment

37:09

in ways i mean if you take the cretaceous

37:11

tertiary the considered right in

37:13

the middle of the five in terms of severity

37:16

come on your global firestorms

37:19

you had months of darkness you

37:21

add alternating first you had a global

37:23

cosmic winter

37:25

rapidly replaced by a super

37:28

heated environment you had acidic

37:30

oceans you had acid rain

37:32

on a global scale i mean the

37:34

conflicts months of destructive forces

37:36

at the end of the of the cretaceous

37:40

period this is almost difficult

37:42

to even imagine

37:44

we are not

37:46

like this picture that i took behind me here's

37:48

a very typical day on earth today we

37:50

don't see darkness we

37:52

don't see the trillions

37:54

of tons of acidic material

37:57

in the atmosphere

37:59

i mean beat the snot

38:02

to say that humans aren't having an impact on

38:04

the goblin by we certainly are of

38:06

course we are

38:08

what we are you now is not comparable

38:11

the great five it's not even remotely

38:13

comparable it's not comparable to what happened even

38:15

at the end of the last ice age in

38:17

terms of what was going on in

38:20

the environment because

38:23

so

38:25

the idea of the six race mass extinction

38:28

this now coupled with the idea of climate

38:30

change so we're causing climate

38:32

change the climate is driving the sixth

38:34

grade mass extinctions and

38:37

with if someone questions

38:39

the scenario the the

38:41

typical response was and here's here's

38:43

the connection is that while look there's already

38:45

a precedent for humans causing

38:48

a mass extinctions look at what happened

38:50

to the megafauna to under the ice age right

38:53

, your exhibit a right

38:55

so you have factions that are sort

38:57

of

38:58

centering around this idea

39:01

that humans were responsible for

39:03

this great mass extinction at

39:05

the end of the ice age and therefore this provides

39:08

a precedent for what is

39:10

happening now

39:11

so

39:13

those factions did

39:16

not want to let go the idea

39:18

so when you bring in a common and

39:20

some type of an externally triggered

39:22

global catastrophe

39:24

they didn't want to go there and so

39:27

they

39:28

basically you know martial therefore

39:30

sister tried to suppress the heresy and

39:33

it's it's very interesting study

39:36

of of how they did it and how

39:38

it sounds convincing

39:41

when you read and i've gone through all of the papers

39:43

on the younger darius events very

39:46

thoroughly

39:48

pro and con and

39:51

it was it it's really out the

39:53

the ones who were opposed to the idea

39:56

it's very much a sleight of hand kind of

39:58

thing which which we see

40:00

going on right now and a bunch of different forms

40:03

rights but very much

40:05

very prevalent in his and because of the fact

40:07

that i had it's donald had a lot

40:09

of background study in a the state

40:11

since i've read hundreds of papers

40:13

on the megafon like states it's my

40:16

interest interest i suits goes back you know thirty

40:18

to forty years be i've got some

40:20

geological background those

40:23

kind of studies really kinda prepared

40:25

me to look at this

40:27

look at the

40:28

the attempts to rebut

40:31

the refute

40:33

the impact i paused assists

40:36

and

40:37

i could see through mike i mean i

40:39

can see the sleight of hand that was going on

40:41

since in it would be things like this

40:43

okay so you , the

40:45

pro or column the the celestial

40:47

the pro cosmic impact group goes

40:50

out and collects some samples

40:52

city under darius boundary boundary

40:54

go back in a examine these

40:57

samples for impact proxies

41:00

right now let's say that the impact proxies are

41:02

my christie rolls or nano diamonds

41:05

right now you , a picture if there's

41:07

if there's an impact in you have these incredible

41:10

pressures and heat heat it produces

41:12

out of the vapor literally out of the vapor

41:15

itself these diamonds these

41:17

and they fall to the earth by the

41:20

trillions right but their narrow

41:22

diamonds means you can't see him except

41:24

with a high powered up electron

41:26

microscope right so

41:29

they fall in a litter and the landscape

41:31

right now twelve thousand years

41:33

goes by right you've got if they if they

41:36

fall on fall forest are going to be you know go

41:38

down under forest floor and

41:40

you can have

41:41

material accumulating you

41:43

can have slugs you can have a rosy

41:45

you could have deposition you can have all these processes

41:48

going not so in some cases this

41:51

horizon that was the lamb surface

41:53

receive these nano diamonds it's gone in

41:56

other places it's buried right now

41:59

last

41:59

the

42:00

or worse

42:02

october i went to the murray

42:04

spring site right down or

42:07

just north of the mexican border in southern

42:09

arizona this is one of the areas where the

42:11

black matt was prominently

42:13

displayed hour after a better we can

42:15

pull up and i can show you pictures of the black maps

42:18

know the black map separates the pleistocene

42:20

below the holocene above it

42:23

marks the boundary of the

42:25

younger drives and it's in this

42:27

black man where the charcoal is found

42:29

where the the nano diamonds are found

42:31

where the micro spirits are found where the magnetic

42:34

greens are found with the iridium layer

42:36

is found where the platinum spite of sound

42:39

not all of these things these things of the places

42:41

by any means but all of these things

42:43

have been sound

42:45

one place or another associate

42:48

with their bound

42:49

right

42:50

the law that boundary

42:52

mega fauna above that boundaries

42:55

hardly any megafauna in north

42:57

america below that boundary clovis

42:59

culture above that boundaries

43:01

clovis culture gone right

43:04

so now the idea is you

43:06

have these people who are

43:08

invested in this picture

43:11

of humans rampaging over the landscape

43:13

slaughtering everything the

43:16

pathway so quickly that

43:18

from the bering strait

43:20

in alaska all the way down to tierra del

43:22

fuego

43:23

these animals couldn't escape this

43:25

the

43:26

rampage in barbaric slaughter

43:28

of these advancing hordes of flotus

43:31

people

43:32

right and there's our press

43:35

okay here too we can invoke that whenever

43:37

somebody questions the capacity

43:39

of humans to cause a great

43:41

mass extinction we have that

43:43

to invoke now your company's of

43:45

starts i know know that looks like

43:47

it was something from out there

43:50

adrian like there you see and

43:53

so they closed ranks they wrote

43:55

ranks series of articles

43:57

for example wanted to suppose

43:59

a few days and was they went out they collected

44:02

samples they , back and

44:04

they analyzed know samples and they didn't

44:06

find anything anything now this

44:08

is published in depressed independent depressed

44:11

look it's at look at the younger driest boundary

44:14

don't find any impact proxies

44:16

therefore there was no impact right so

44:19

now the growing team of

44:22

proponents they go back out there they

44:24

look at the protocols of

44:26

the groups that were setting

44:28

out to refute

44:30

the impact hypothesis and

44:32

what they discoveries

44:34

multiple

44:35

the transgressions if you will

44:37

have the proper protocols for example

44:40

you got is very thin layer

44:42

right and if you don't

44:44

was select your sample from exactly the

44:46

right place

44:48

course you're not going to find a thing are

44:50

you

44:51

well the the the proponents

44:53

of who are some movies really big

44:56

hitters in the scientific world

44:58

actually

44:59

geologists in astronomers

45:01

and archaeologist said and

45:04

done

45:04

people like that

45:06

james chen it was written over five hundred

45:09

scientific papers published

45:11

in the peer reviewed literature

45:14

corporate a prime example okay

45:17

these guys showed

45:19

that the critics

45:21

of the impact hypothesis

45:23

after samples in around place

45:26

so if you take your sample from the wrong

45:28

place and you'd go back to the laboratory

45:30

you don't find anything well

45:32

that doesn't prove anything know

45:36

your , was too large their subs

45:38

size was the wrong size in other words you're talking

45:40

about nano diamonds when you save your material

45:43

you have to seven various to

45:46

the very small fraction rights

45:48

otherwise you know see you're you're basically

45:50

looking it's the needle in the haystack think you

45:53

know if you're so if you're haystack

45:55

is a huge amount

45:57

you know ten feet high and you gotta find

45:59

that needle is

45:59

the door amount of hey the sub of

46:02

a foot high you see so what they

46:04

did was the zip size of the sample

46:06

size was two big there since the said

46:08

sizes too big

46:10

so when they said the stuff

46:12

they were looking you know

46:15

they had their doors too many

46:17

are your for example are tough

46:19

fungal steroids that that

46:22

occur naturally without any impact

46:24

but these are very difficult

46:26

to differentiate between the to new have to use

46:28

very

46:30

powerful microscopes the the news

46:32

right kind of microscopes to differentiate

46:34

between the the phone bill spheres spirits

46:37

and the the cosmic impacts

46:39

virals there was a lot of these protocols

46:42

that they didn't follow but the

46:44

result was is that day

46:46

three or four or five papers written

46:49

all based upon this faulty

46:52

hockey protocols

46:54

those papers claimed to refute

46:57

the impact i popped assists and

47:00

that was published drop the press that

47:03

oh that impaired prop hypothesis

47:05

has been disproven now

47:07

what they did was the of the proponents

47:09

came back and did it it

47:11

it it did motivate them to do really

47:14

really high quality work which

47:17

they then they had an independent

47:19

teams were inspired

47:21

to go and look in various places

47:24

so by o two

47:26

thousand and fifteen sixteen

47:28

emir you'd have aided dependent teams now

47:30

that it's found impact proxies

47:33

of various places north america

47:35

central america south america now

47:37

in africa and

47:40

in europe in syria

47:42

and

47:43

so the

47:45

basically the

47:47

the rebuttal has been rebutted now

47:50

so we're back to

47:51

however

47:53

there's not still a definitive explanation

47:55

about what

47:57

it's

47:58

was it a single event

48:00

that's one of the question was a multiple events was

48:02

it a single impactor which i don't take it was

48:04

i think it was multiple in pastors

48:06

which makes it to me more consistent

48:09

over take this as they did the direction the thinking

48:11

is going to more consistent with the idea

48:13

of a cometary swarm

48:16

the encounter in a commentary sworn probably

48:18

did was prior to the encountered

48:21

some point was part of a single nuclei

48:24

the desegregated overpriced

48:26

perhaps a succession of splitting

48:29

of ants but , created

48:31

a cluster of of cosmic debris

48:33

that the earth encountered in fact it may have been

48:36

even a repetitive encounter to this is now

48:38

possible that if you have have

48:41

t and r com it disintegrates

48:43

in a regular orbit that like a

48:46

in oh say and apollo asteroid type orbit

48:48

or in in orbit between earth and jupiter

48:50

where it could disintegrate and

48:53

then later it's orbit with the it's

48:55

the with which is the byproduct of

48:57

it's disintegration

48:59

the early stages of that disintegration

49:01

the material is into be cluster

49:04

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if you to be concentrated in

49:36

areas but then as time

49:38

goes on that cluster begins to defuse

49:41

it begins to spread out along

49:43

the orbit however in the early

49:45

stages of break

49:47

the earth encountered a swarm did

49:50

it could explain

49:51

how you would have multiple impacts saw

49:54

almost simultaneously my

49:57

taking at this point is that it seems more

49:59

can

49:59

this that with a multiple impact event like

50:02

my own research suggests that there were between

50:04

seven and ten impacts of varying

50:06

sizes i'm enough

50:09

to

50:11

the release let's

50:14

say an equivalent of one thousand to

50:16

ten thousand megatons and of of

50:18

energy release and up and and

50:21

probably hundreds if not thousands

50:23

of much smaller

50:25

parents know when i say a smaller

50:27

impact i might be talking about something

50:29

in the one to ten for twenty

50:32

make a ton range which is about the equivalent

50:34

of one of your the us nuclear

50:37

weapon

50:38

roughly on the i you

50:41

know have you no doubt have heard of that and guscott

50:43

levant of nineteen a weight of course you

50:45

go

50:47

that to , i'm that are under

50:50

say that the most likely explanation

50:52

for that in my mind is that it was a member of the

50:54

toward meteor stream for the simple

50:56

reason it's early morning june thirtieth

50:58

nineteen oh wait is exactly

51:00

when when earth is crossing

51:03

the summer time towards right

51:05

when the toward stream has just

51:07

made it's para healy and passage around the

51:09

sun is now coming from the

51:11

direction of the of and

51:13

it's rate the radiant point that the

51:16

the eight most closely identified

51:18

radiant point based upon eyewitness

51:21

reconstructions places

51:23

it's point and the emergence from

51:25

the sky almost

51:27

consistent almost precisely

51:30

consistent with where the

51:32

toward media stream would have emerged from the

51:34

sky so not to watch it was in the right

51:36

place in the right time to be a member of the towards

51:38

streak that doesn't prove that it

51:40

was a member of the towards but it does certainly

51:43

make a very strong circumstantial

51:45

case right that that's what it was

51:48

and up oh

51:50

that's the , or crosses

51:52

the toward me to shrink twice each year once

51:55

in in late june early july

51:57

after , made pear a helium

51:59

which means it's closest passage

52:02

to the side that makes that it comes

52:04

in from the direction

52:06

the play eighties

52:09

which forms the shoulder of the boat

52:12

right in the ancient astrological conceptions

52:14

the pleiades is the shoulder the bulls and

52:17

so the bullet courses taurus and all

52:19

cometary streams and

52:21

meteor streams which are ultimately the

52:24

ah

52:25

the offspring of disintegrating comets

52:28

they are all named after the constellation

52:31

that occupies the portion

52:33

of the sky that they appear to emanate

52:35

from rights so the orion

52:38

it's are coming from the direction of awry

52:40

and the leah needs are coming from the

52:42

direction of lean towards from

52:44

toward the bolts new radiant point

52:46

of

52:47

the towards is very close to just

52:50

bull's eye right on the pleiades which

52:53

for me is always very interesting when you begin

52:55

to look at the mythology surrounding

52:57

the pleiades com and and

52:59

particularly how the pleiades have played a role

53:01

in a lot of very interesting

53:05

esoteric the cope

53:07

traditions

53:09

including freemasonry including

53:12

i miss ray as i'm including

53:14

basic traditions even including

53:16

jewish

53:18

the jewish legends are native

53:20

american traditions you know you find the pleiades

53:23

playing this very interesting central

53:25

role and particularly

53:27

and mistress i think that there's a very overt

53:30

connection between

53:33

the symbolism of the ball and

53:36

symbolism of the pleiades with

53:38

the the rituals of mets racism but

53:41

you know the know the the called seven sisters

53:43

and greek mythology worthy

53:45

the at ease my arm

53:47

right and in the hell are

53:49

these

53:51

the associated with the pleiades as well

53:54

and the

53:55

you know that the legends when you get into the legends

53:57

of the of the flood in him

53:59

and

53:59

and the destruction of the earth like him

54:02

in greek traditions you had the the

54:05

story of satan member the son of

54:07

haley also tried to drive his father's

54:09

chariot and to keep it within

54:11

the plane a the ecliptic so dared often

54:14

descended , to earth and set the earth

54:16

on fire and

54:19

finally jupiter had to mount the heavens

54:21

and her like great thunderbolt to chariot

54:24

and struck to chariot

54:26

and phaeton spell

54:28

flaming to earth and fell

54:31

into the river air adonis and two sisters

54:34

the hell yeah hell yeah these wept

54:36

it is demise and their tears

54:39

the great flood

54:41

so

54:42

right there you know in this codified form

54:44

when you talk about you mythology there's

54:46

a beautiful example

54:49

you mythology the idea that mists

54:52

contain actual

54:54

information is just codified

54:56

in different ways

54:58

but it's essentially telling the same stories

55:00

it is fascinating i want to go back though

55:03

to something you were saying that

55:05

, of piqued my interest about

55:07

you know and a possible next greek

55:09

cataclysm and you were saying

55:11

how there are certain factions that don't like to

55:13

admit that some of these are cosmically

55:15

caused caused recently

55:19

i think is the past couple years in

55:21

the mainstream media they were talking about

55:23

how are magnetic north pole is rapidly

55:25

moving towards siberia

55:28

and you know i've heard researchers

55:30

say that if it goes too far we could have a magnetic

55:33

reversal what

55:35

are you think the chances that we are approaching

55:38

another great cataclysm of some sort

55:40

some sort in own asteroid impact

55:43

or anything like that

55:45

well i think you know if if you start

55:47

paying attention of the cosmic environment

55:49

there are

55:50

typically close encounters about

55:52

once a month

55:54

and the question in my my does

55:56

always been are we seeing

55:59

more

55:59

cause we have the technological capability

56:02

to see and track things that we couldn't male

56:04

fifty years ago or

56:07

is it is it it

56:08

the flux of these things is actually

56:11

intensify or is

56:13

it a combination of both and at

56:15

this point we're going into the lot of the background

56:17

my

56:18

that is that it might be combination

56:20

of both i think that we have

56:23

actually seen an increase

56:25

an increase

56:27

flying by the earth

56:29

but in either case the point

56:31

is is when we start looking out into the

56:33

cause cosmic neighborhood that

56:36

our planet resides in we discovered that

56:38

know there's a lot of other the

56:41

inhabitants of this neighborhood lot

56:43

more than we imagined even a few decades

56:45

ago now , do we integrate

56:48

dad indoor thinking well what i

56:50

think that two things one

56:53

is that we are looking

56:55

at the earth in ways we were never

56:57

able to you know grant we have lied

57:00

are now ground penetrating radar we have

57:03

magnetic studies that

57:06

we have technologies for looking into

57:08

the earth and understanding the earth and looking

57:11

at the proxies are analyzing

57:13

your new dating methods that are allowing

57:16

us to create these chronologies of past

57:18

events of if we go

57:20

back a hundred years ago you

57:23

know as far as craters ,

57:25

astor blames which are the most direct

57:27

evidence of impact we were down to just

57:30

a few you know the very first one was

57:32

early that was identified as such

57:34

was meteor crater in arizona arizona

57:36

is the big obvious plastic whole

57:39

underground and that was not identified

57:41

as such until feel the early twentieth

57:43

century so you know if you go

57:45

back to the

57:47

realization that meteor crater

57:49

was an impact which it turned out to

57:51

be

57:52

in impact of an iron asteroid

57:54

and then you have the to use government of nineteen

57:56

away which was a much lower density

57:59

object

58:01

in other words the

58:03

the arizona meteor

58:06

crater object being and at ah

58:08

an iron asteroid probably had asteroid density

58:11

of least five or six grams per cubic

58:13

centimeter witches think about upholding

58:16

about piece of cast iron in your hands

58:18

the to do stopped it was probably more

58:20

like a the density of of

58:22

snowball or a nice que

58:25

it may be between one and two

58:27

was low density well as a consequence

58:30

the high density object couldn't quite

58:32

easily penetrate the full atmosphere and strike

58:34

the ground and leave

58:36

a big obvious whole

58:38

there are tens of thousands of years later the

58:40

lower density object

58:42

like to good good did not penetrate the atmosphere

58:45

you know it did not strike the

58:46

it blew up five or six

58:48

miles above the surface of the earth

58:52

and the shock wave of that

58:54

explosion then

58:56

moved out words in a in a radio

58:58

fashion in a wavefront moving outwards

59:02

and , pressures were so extreme

59:04

that when it intersected the ground just

59:06

essentially mode the old growth forests

59:08

down right and you had over

59:11

eight hundred square miles

59:13

seven billion trees that

59:15

were

59:16

that were just flat splayed

59:18

out from the episode

59:20

the shock wave right

59:23

now here here's the thing we

59:25

know that happened in two thousand and i mean

59:27

ninety nine something out

59:30

a smaller scale happened in my was

59:32

a two thousand and fourteen february

59:34

when i don't remember yes charles vitale

59:37

albums now

59:38

that was much smaller than to guscott

59:40

and yet

59:42

it was a very impressive event for

59:44

sure and throw tomatoes oh

59:46

yeah fifteen hundred buildings were damaged

59:49

in and oh yeah i mean if you

59:51

look at some of the i'm some of the

59:54

videos of the saying and this that

59:56

the the sound effects of when did the blast

59:58

wave hit

59:59

it's it's mind boggling

1:00:02

of neurons that's just a little cosmic

1:00:04

spec rights

1:00:06

ooh thanks to get ago if you

1:00:08

keep in mind first of all

1:00:11

when you look at the population

1:00:13

distribution of these different

1:00:15

types of objects from you know

1:00:17

the high density iron objects

1:00:19

to the low density

1:00:21

you know almost

1:00:22

snowball like objects the middle

1:00:25

the carbonation tried redux are kind

1:00:27

of right in the middle you know maybe about

1:00:29

the the same density if you picked up

1:00:31

a stone next to the river right

1:00:33

destined to be in the devil you gotta you've

1:00:35

gotta

1:00:36

the use of ice in one hand a super

1:00:39

a stone and the other and a piece of castile

1:00:42

right in your third hand try so

1:00:46

that represents the rate

1:00:48

of of possibilities right

1:00:50

now

1:00:51

when you go to the lower end of the spectrum

1:00:54

those can happen but don't leave

1:00:56

the kind of lasting

1:00:58

the buttons

1:00:59

there occurrence

1:01:01

like the iron asteroids or

1:01:03

even the the them the the the

1:01:05

more dance objects however

1:01:07

, the same chris the

1:01:09

objects that are towards the lower

1:01:12

density end of the spectrum are

1:01:14

anywhere from five to ten times more

1:01:16

abundant than the other end of the spectre

1:01:19

so if you start cradle counter

1:01:22

they are now there's pushing close to two hundred

1:01:24

traders

1:01:26

the surface of the earth has been identified

1:01:29

which are the scars of these

1:01:31

cosmic encounters you know

1:01:33

if if it's meteor crater it's

1:01:35

a big hole underground to crater if

1:01:37

it's covered over

1:01:39

and he only see it with with ground

1:01:41

penetrating technologies to know

1:01:43

that it's there or you see

1:01:46

some of the outcrops around was shot

1:01:49

courts or

1:01:51

impaired proxies in

1:01:53

but it's not an obvious crater it's called an astro

1:01:56

bleed which translates

1:01:58

as star moon

1:02:00

star wound so

1:02:03

given that there's about two hundred craters

1:02:06

and astra blames

1:02:08

yeah those are probably no more

1:02:11

than found on basically

1:02:13

fifteen percent of the earth's surface

1:02:15

because we've barely begun to see

1:02:19

you know

1:02:19

what's in the oceans your

1:02:22

the oceans comprise almost three quarters

1:02:24

of the earth's surface suffer every impact

1:02:26

on land

1:02:28

you're going to have three impacts into the ocean

1:02:31

right now any oceanic

1:02:34

impact is gonna be catastrophic the

1:02:36

lady impact is gonna be catastrophic

1:02:39

but they're going to be differ you

1:02:41

know they're going to be different one of the noise and oceanic

1:02:43

impact is going to do is it's going it's inject

1:02:46

tremendous amounts inconceivable

1:02:48

miles of water into the

1:02:50

atmosphere is going to cause

1:02:53

huge tsunami waves that will make

1:02:55

landfall ah

1:02:57

the area of the surrounding

1:03:00

continental areas or islands

1:03:02

you know good are in that particular ocean basins

1:03:05

the rain out of the injection

1:03:07

of water vapor into the atmosphere is going

1:03:10

to cause extreme

1:03:12

roll on to rachel rainfalls

1:03:14

much as all of the miss described

1:03:17

you know whether to the bible or whether

1:03:19

it's the hopi myths are you know

1:03:21

the evaded miss of their flood of you

1:03:23

know the sumerian miss have tremendous

1:03:26

intense prolonged rainfalls

1:03:29

we now know that that's totally fuck

1:03:31

plate

1:03:32

was able scientifically

1:03:34

right okay so here's so here's

1:03:36

we want to keep in mind is that oceanic

1:03:40

you perjured and be three times more

1:03:42

prevalent and land impacts right

1:03:45

now inland impacts are

1:03:48

our discovery is pretty much limited

1:03:51

to areas that areas for example there's

1:03:53

example lot of i'm found in canada and

1:03:55

in northern europe in scandinavian countries

1:03:58

astra blames right that

1:04:00

is be close

1:04:02

north western europe

1:04:04

have more than half of north america was covered

1:04:06

with great ice sheets and those ice

1:04:08

sheets they're able to remove

1:04:11

large sections of bedrock will

1:04:13

, doing so they expose what

1:04:15

would have otherwise made the hidden corps

1:04:18

for disaster blames blames

1:04:21

see you've got that then you got the occupied

1:04:23

areas where there has been more you

1:04:26

know studies of groundwater hydrology

1:04:28

more exploration for minerals and so forth

1:04:31

but you've got vast areas around

1:04:33

here quick the equator which are forested

1:04:36

it's you're just like right now as we speak

1:04:38

neat the the remains of tremendous

1:04:41

and you know cities structures

1:04:44

in the brazilian rainforest set of and sound

1:04:46

using lied are the nobody knew was there

1:04:49

right well now imagine that you got to even

1:04:51

you got further under into the bedrock

1:04:53

into find out

1:04:55

if there is asked to bleeps there

1:04:58

okay so be it you could figure

1:05:00

that if the two hundred astra bleeds

1:05:02

now identified you ,

1:05:05

take fifteen percent of the earth's surface

1:05:07

twenty percent season figure

1:05:09

five times more astra blames

1:05:11

are there are that have been

1:05:13

discovered

1:05:15

and on the lamp now

1:05:18

that makes close to a thousand then

1:05:20

you figure that of

1:05:23

that thousand

1:05:24

there probably is that many

1:05:26

preserved a various ages in the

1:05:29

planetary land under

1:05:32

the ocean new would be three times that

1:05:34

so now three thousand

1:05:37

if there's a thousand land impact that

1:05:39

means three thousand oceanic impacts

1:05:42

now

1:05:44

the worked have like four thousand potential

1:05:46

impacts throughout the period

1:05:49

from the paleozoic to the press now

1:05:52

all those bear in mind that

1:05:54

there's probably going to be something

1:05:57

like five times or ten times

1:05:59

more the impacts encounters

1:06:03

that are gonna be along

1:06:05

the lines of the to do school event

1:06:08

the meteor crater in arizona you

1:06:11

see what we're getting yeah

1:06:13

thousands upon thousands

1:06:15

of cosmic encounter is that

1:06:17

have not left director

1:06:19

and those encounters

1:06:21

could have also

1:06:23

occurred and undoubtedly have occurred

1:06:26

throughout they the holocene the

1:06:28

last ten thousand years in and

1:06:30

witnessed an experienced

1:06:32

hi human beings

1:06:34

those events then

1:06:36

the in coded into

1:06:39

the various stories and legends

1:06:41

and myths and so on and

1:06:44

now is to get better question about to geomagnetic

1:06:46

sealed surf okay the gym

1:06:48

magnetic field i believe that what

1:06:50

we're seeing as residual movement that's

1:06:53

an after effect of what this

1:06:55

the of the trauma this planet suffered between

1:06:59

ten and fourteen thousand years ago roughly

1:07:01

eleven and sit know said lebanon fifteen

1:07:03

thousand

1:07:06

richard with which bury my

1:07:08

now

1:07:09

you know you had over and over half

1:07:11

of north america buried under nice

1:07:14

at least as big baby bigger

1:07:16

than the one that now covers the south pole

1:07:19

and that is a huge mass of ice

1:07:22

you , around central canada ah

1:07:24

along hudson bay and in

1:07:26

manitoba neytiri which would have been that

1:07:28

the center of the that the dome of the great

1:07:31

i see it might have been a mile

1:07:33

and a half or two miles thick thick

1:07:35

was so tremendously heavy that it's

1:07:37

trust the the park

1:07:40

crust of the earth down several thousand

1:07:42

feet

1:07:43

because of the weight right

1:07:46

some force cause the rapids

1:07:49

melting cataclysmic melting of

1:07:51

that ice sheet over a very like

1:07:53

a geological instant and

1:07:55

all that weight has been released from the

1:07:57

continents

1:07:59

okay to the ocean basins now

1:08:03

that

1:08:04

shifting have tremendous amount of

1:08:06

mass round the surface of the

1:08:08

earth we now know had tremendous

1:08:11

seismic consequences of volcanic

1:08:13

consequences there were tremendous

1:08:16

earthquakes associated with

1:08:18

the d glaciation process in this huge

1:08:20

transference of so surface

1:08:23

mass

1:08:24

there are also would have been effects or

1:08:26

nearest orbital stability

1:08:28

in orbital equilibrium because

1:08:30

of the redistribution of the surface

1:08:33

mask with the release

1:08:35

of weight

1:08:37

in some parts of the planet in the increase

1:08:39

in waves on other parts you

1:08:41

had ice a static rebounds

1:08:44

going up in you had ice a static

1:08:46

pressure going down

1:08:49

those vertical shifts

1:08:51

are now out of equilibrium with

1:08:53

their latitude because

1:08:56

the mass of the earth which is not

1:08:58

perfectly rigid his poop has

1:09:00

more just greater mass distributed

1:09:03

towards the equator because

1:09:06

the years

1:09:07

the rotation on it's axis so

1:09:10

it's actually twenty six miles greater

1:09:13

this way

1:09:14

the east west the north to south

1:09:16

twenty six miles right now if you

1:09:19

start moving

1:09:20

archer the earth's crust which is

1:09:22

normally distributed from your

1:09:24

center of mass depending on it's latitude

1:09:27

okay you move outta here suddenly it's not

1:09:29

in the right latitude anymore you push you move

1:09:31

a doubt

1:09:33

the consequence of that is is in

1:09:35

order for the earth to to

1:09:37

read a quill operate itself there

1:09:40

needs to be lateral distribution

1:09:42

of earth crustal mass

1:09:45

as well as the to

1:09:47

his response to the staging vertical

1:09:50

movement right

1:09:53

all of that is then i think gonna

1:09:55

cause major tectonic

1:09:57

movements accelerated

1:09:59

in it'll drift if you will

1:10:02

there's gonna stars

1:10:04

rapid these destabilization of the earth's

1:10:06

magnetic field as a consequence

1:10:09

now this is not prove obviously

1:10:11

but i think that it's it's it's

1:10:13

a line of fruitful inquiry that

1:10:16

needs to be pursued what in terms

1:10:18

happened because given the

1:10:20

empirical data for huge earthquakes

1:10:23

huge volcanic eruptions

1:10:27

it seems very plausible

1:10:29

if not

1:10:32

probable

1:10:34

that there would have to be geomagnetic

1:10:36

consequences to that the

1:10:38

whole the glaciers and process so

1:10:40

much i tend to look at the

1:10:42

movements of the polls is we're still

1:10:44

seeing this oscillation that's probably

1:10:47

going to go on another ten thousand years

1:10:49

that is everything tried to get back into

1:10:51

some kind of equilibrium

1:10:54

the aftermath of those events

1:10:56

the

1:10:57

eleven to twelve to thirteen thousand years ago

1:11:00

that's , take on it this is fascinating

1:11:02

we'd like to talk about these ancient

1:11:04

cataclysms all mates we've

1:11:06

only got about twenty minutes left know and

1:11:08

i wanted to get to a little bit

1:11:10

of your take on the

1:11:13

ages modern humans humans

1:11:15

a we found evidence that and

1:11:17

remains that have been found over a hundred thousand

1:11:19

years old when the narrow yeah you know

1:11:22

is it is never gone that old

1:11:24

and you know they're finding evidence of even

1:11:26

older remains

1:11:29

a possibly have two million years old

1:11:31

and it's million you know it's insane the discoveries

1:11:33

that are coming out that proved

1:11:35

the age of humans is in

1:11:37

modern humans is humans lot older than we

1:11:39

think rain

1:11:40

i well

1:11:42

yeah i mean what's happening it's the it's

1:11:45

graeme had can talk likes to say things

1:11:47

keep getting older and older site and

1:11:50

that's certainly does apply that to humans

1:11:52

generally i mean i take this the oldest

1:11:55

modern human skeletons now are

1:11:57

dating to at least one hundred and eighty thousand

1:11:59

there's another ,

1:12:02

finding a finding the remains

1:12:04

of the skeletal remains of skeletal person that

1:12:07

would presumably be not

1:12:09

that much different from how

1:12:11

you are i look today dress

1:12:13

them up in a suit of modern close and put him out

1:12:15

on the street nobody would take any particular

1:12:17

notice album right modern

1:12:19

humans presumably was the same cranial

1:12:22

capacity in there for of same brain

1:12:24

size

1:12:26

presumably then with you know intellectual

1:12:28

capabilities and so on harboring

1:12:31

founded are you know hundred eighty possibly

1:12:34

two hundred thousand years old

1:12:37

now who's to say that what

1:12:39

we found is the oldest modern humour

1:12:41

you see

1:12:43

here again we have to we have

1:12:45

to go beyond the limitations of the

1:12:47

uniform material thinking because

1:12:50

in , last hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand

1:12:52

years to have clearly been multiple

1:12:54

catastrophes that have

1:12:56

occurred and each

1:12:59

catastrophe tends to dramatically

1:13:03

affect the consequences of

1:13:05

earlier catastrophes and earlier

1:13:10

earlier words that existed

1:13:13

read if i

1:13:15

marry could i can i

1:13:17

do a share screen

1:13:37

let's see around

1:13:45

right this

1:13:47

is present a very interesting graph

1:13:50

it's now

1:13:51

nearly a quarter century old and it's

1:13:54

still just as valuable today as

1:13:56

it was when it was first discovered

1:13:58

this is the oxygen isotope

1:13:59

oscillations in the greenland

1:14:02

ice cores

1:14:04

ice cores which which are direct

1:14:07

or proxy for climatic change

1:14:10

when you look at this graph years

1:14:13

you see the shifts to the left mean clue

1:14:15

cooling environment shifts to the right

1:14:17

mean warming environments we go

1:14:20

down the right him scale here this is

1:14:22

this is time

1:14:23

thousands of years so

1:14:26

this this present and down at the bottom

1:14:28

is ten thousand years ago

1:14:30

right and if you

1:14:32

go through here

1:14:33

one of the first things you gotta notices at no

1:14:35

point is this

1:14:37

the smooth large it's oscillating

1:14:40

one to three degrees constantly

1:14:43

throughout the holocene

1:14:45

and is is the holocene the last ten

1:14:47

thousand years which is now actually defined

1:14:49

as eleven thousand six hundred years ago

1:14:52

and

1:14:54

you see i mentioned earlier that there was a a

1:14:56

climate catastrophe at about eight thousand

1:14:58

three hundred years ago when it was a very rapid

1:15:00

dot doble global cooling indecency

1:15:03

, great hear it registered in

1:15:05

the greenland ice cores you

1:15:07

see that little spike greater than i'm yeah showing

1:15:09

with my rotates and that was

1:15:12

that drop of about four or five degrees

1:15:15

fahrenheit

1:15:18

almost instantaneously ah

1:15:21

the something like this happen now

1:15:24

it would put a very serious stress

1:15:27

on our global civilization it

1:15:30

would likely mean things like several

1:15:32

decades of really cold

1:15:34

years

1:15:36

associate with multiple crop failures

1:15:38

right since our food supply

1:15:40

depends upon

1:15:42

you know

1:15:43

an active agricultural industry

1:15:46

and so on if you had two or three years

1:15:48

of

1:15:50

crop failures we basically

1:15:52

the human species is pretty much run out of

1:15:54

so what'll happen

1:15:56

is as food yet stairs you

1:15:58

have salmon

1:15:59

ah people become

1:16:02

weeks their immune systems get compromised

1:16:05

and once you have a lot of people with him

1:16:07

compromised immune systems then

1:16:09

you get pandemics you get to

1:16:12

bonnie plague you get black flag et

1:16:14

cetera et cetera and a real pandemic

1:16:16

like i'm talking about their will

1:16:18

knocked out a third the population in

1:16:21

other words you go a given given cydia

1:16:24

given town province maybe

1:16:26

as as as to half the

1:16:28

people

1:16:29

the die

1:16:31

okay so what we're seeing here to

1:16:34

the constantly oscillating climate

1:16:36

two to three look right here see the spite

1:16:39

us about us about degree warming spike right

1:16:41

there

1:16:42

what cause their

1:16:43

well we don't know for sure but

1:16:46

one thing is clear it's not a smooth lot

1:16:48

right now one i've done

1:16:50

here is i've that

1:16:52

it in

1:16:53

some

1:16:55

alternating periods

1:16:56

the chameleon warmed to going best

1:16:59

route this holocene

1:17:01

in quite interesting when you begin to compare

1:17:03

what was going on historically

1:17:05

that's what was going on in terms of the

1:17:08

northern hemisphere climb

1:17:09

right same bras

1:17:12

there's vertical line

1:17:14

represents the body

1:17:17

the average to global temperature

1:17:19

right superimposed what you can

1:17:21

see here is the to the temperature at

1:17:23

least this is in greenland and it's probably

1:17:25

representative of the whole northern

1:17:27

hemisphere not necessarily

1:17:29

the whole planet uniformly

1:17:32

however most of these changes

1:17:34

were not strictly region

1:17:37

they were reflections of something that's going

1:17:39

on on a planetary levels but

1:17:41

just vertical line right here represents

1:17:44

the modern temperature you can see if

1:17:46

you come up this is

1:17:48

coming up this is what was called the holocene

1:17:50

warm period the climatic optimum

1:17:53

that i was mentioning earlier you know the south's

1:17:55

the climate here is all

1:17:58

to the right of this line this

1:18:00

is a time when sea levels were higher

1:18:02

than now he had the global

1:18:04

temperature was warmer than out

1:18:07

interrupted by that one spite and

1:18:09

then you can see it's were coming out

1:18:11

of the holocene warm period

1:18:14

the the magnitude of these oscillations

1:18:17

begins to increase as while

1:18:20

it also chefs over to the left the

1:18:22

culmination of the shifting to the left

1:18:24

side of the line

1:18:25

the little ice age new

1:18:28

, i've got the little ice age is

1:18:30

separated by a a two phases

1:18:32

the first space and the second phase

1:18:35

in between no spaces as the renaissance

1:18:38

at the beginning of the little ice age into thirteen

1:18:40

hundreds

1:18:42

if you had

1:18:43

that's what i started by get a succession of crop

1:18:45

failures between about thirty twenty

1:18:47

and thirteen forty the left

1:18:49

large portions of the population

1:18:52

hungry and week so you

1:18:54

then had famine and around

1:18:56

eighty grams or team forty two

1:18:59

you had the are the black players

1:19:01

that start

1:19:02

ah

1:19:03

that was that was so devastated european

1:19:06

populations but you can go back to

1:19:08

read you get to believe a warm period this

1:19:10

orange

1:19:11

bar right here is during the

1:19:13

great cathedral building

1:19:15

the rugged of europe ah the

1:19:17

great the final final phase of

1:19:19

the of the my in classical architecture

1:19:22

the basic architecture the

1:19:24

final wave of monumental

1:19:27

earthwork architecture north america

1:19:29

of legalistic building in england

1:19:31

right all of that in this orange bar during

1:19:34

the medieval warm period and what

1:19:36

what that was the fact that the warm period

1:19:38

we had a month extra growing season

1:19:40

every year in there was abundant food

1:19:43

and a huge growth in human population

1:19:46

during this warm periods so now there was

1:19:48

the labor force to to

1:19:50

undertake this tremendous enterprises

1:19:53

of sacred architecture and

1:19:55

there was enough food to feed them etc

1:19:58

you go back and you've got

1:19:59

period of cooling here that

1:20:02

was the dark ages then you

1:20:04

get back to

1:20:05

the classical greece and rome and warm

1:20:07

period with the rise of those civilizations

1:20:10

then you go back to a cooling period

1:20:12

right here and this was the bronze age collapse

1:20:16

and so it so don't the pyramid

1:20:18

age old kingdom of egypt sumer

1:20:21

ah another phase earlier

1:20:23

bronze age phase here's

1:20:25

the climatic optimum here

1:20:28

during nice and during this

1:20:30

climatic optimum was the recovery

1:20:32

of the planet after the disasters

1:20:35

of the terminal ice age it was the recovery

1:20:37

of human population and so

1:20:39

on

1:20:40

when i want you to look at disgrace

1:20:43

because this is where it gets really interesting

1:20:45

and it comes back to the question you asked

1:20:48

about you know we extend

1:20:50

the the tenure of human beings on this

1:20:52

planet back to one hundred fifty or two hundred

1:20:54

thousand years

1:20:58

i want you to look at the top portion

1:21:00

to this grass

1:21:02

the ten thousand years ago and now we get back

1:21:04

into the pleistocene

1:21:08

you see that

1:21:09

yeah yeah

1:21:12

well yeah wow was

1:21:14

right yeah that's a lot of movement

1:21:16

now you go back here's two hundred

1:21:18

thousand years so

1:21:21

we had ancestors for hundreds

1:21:23

of generations that lived

1:21:26

on the planet during while

1:21:28

this was going on wow

1:21:31

now you're be a challenge chris

1:21:34

take a band of intrepid coworkers

1:21:36

go back and try to establish civilization

1:21:40

now that on the left side that representing

1:21:43

the the cold

1:21:45

yeah with this phase okay yes

1:21:47

wow thirteen

1:21:49

look at this rate here look at this warm

1:21:51

global warming tweed like one

1:21:53

hundred twenty nine hundred and fifty thousand years

1:21:55

but she has nothing like look look look at this

1:21:58

look at this spite of warming here

1:22:01

this was that fourteen thousand six hundred

1:22:03

year of and and then you had

1:22:06

plunging back into full glacier told

1:22:08

you this point where you deserve the younger

1:22:10

driest boundary right here the

1:22:12

thousand nine hundred and their despite

1:22:15

of warming is meltwater pulse

1:22:17

one be interestingly

1:22:20

this has been dated to eleven thousand six

1:22:22

hundred years ago plato

1:22:24

identified this twenty five hundred years

1:22:26

ago in his prologue to to may

1:22:29

us would you talking about

1:22:32

the great kid catastrophe that destroyed

1:22:34

atlanta which he dated

1:22:36

nine thousand years before so lawns

1:22:39

exile to egypt which occurred around

1:22:41

six hundred bc so

1:22:43

interestingly that modern geological

1:22:46

sciences his place this pivot point

1:22:48

between the pleistocene analyses and

1:22:50

eleven thousand six hundred they read

1:22:52

identified a meltwater pulse

1:22:55

a spasm of the global meltwater into

1:22:57

the global oceans which would have meant a rapid

1:22:59

sea level rise and that is precisely

1:23:02

the date of plato game as two thousand five

1:23:04

hundred years ago so

1:23:07

right here this is the story that

1:23:09

we need to tell right here

1:23:11

yeah that's a great that those

1:23:13

shorts or greed or representations

1:23:16

of what has happened cataclysmic

1:23:18

wise and temperature wise

1:23:20

throughout our history that has changed

1:23:22

humanity and it's that's a really good

1:23:26

resource for people to take a look at absolutely

1:23:29

, absolutely it is now

1:23:31

we have time for for one more thing that i really

1:23:33

liked to cover before your we have to close

1:23:36

out for the nice i

1:23:38

would like to get your thoughts on the possibility

1:23:40

of mars having

1:23:42

an ancient civilization that was

1:23:44

destroyed by was major cataclysm

1:23:46

at some time in the ancient past

1:23:49

oh fuck up with while

1:23:51

dot that's quite a question that could

1:23:53

throw at me with her down to the will hire

1:23:56

well we get about ten fifteen minutes of oh

1:23:59

well you know i

1:24:02

i don't say yes i don't say no certainly

1:24:04

the history of mars

1:24:06

i'm very interesting story

1:24:08

and were just realizing how

1:24:11

how different bars used to be

1:24:13

i

1:24:15

the end or your if

1:24:17

i had to say humans on mars

1:24:21

or some such thing i would at

1:24:24

this point seats

1:24:27

there's digress when we began to look at

1:24:29

some of this mysterious evidence that

1:24:31

we didn't tartly even touch upon tonight

1:24:34

ah the the kind of stuff the graham hancock

1:24:36

gets into the idea that there was

1:24:38

a lot more going on in pre history than

1:24:41

we've

1:24:42

recognize now the graph that

1:24:44

i think that i just showed you i

1:24:47

think is is an indication of one reason

1:24:49

why we would not find the

1:24:52

evidence if somebody not take

1:24:55

our civilization that we've created under

1:24:57

planet today and stick it anywhere in

1:24:59

that three there

1:25:02

are ten thousand year ago greg from

1:25:04

the heart from the younger driest bat

1:25:07

windows oscillations are

1:25:09

five to ten times the magnitude

1:25:11

of what we've experienced the holocene take

1:25:14

our modern civilization modern civilization it anywhere

1:25:16

in there

1:25:18

the new know how much we're going to see of a today

1:25:21

then thousand twenty thirty forty fifty

1:25:23

thousand years later zip

1:25:26

we're not gonna see diddly squat

1:25:29

it would be completely lost in

1:25:31

that noise and so

1:25:33

the point is that we can't really

1:25:35

make any declare any to for definitive

1:25:38

the

1:25:39

claims about what may or may not

1:25:41

have been going back now bear

1:25:44

in mind that mind

1:25:45

when you're looking at this as compared to this

1:25:47

right that that were going back

1:25:49

eleven twelve thousand years ago

1:25:52

the gotta look at one hundred fifty thousand years it's

1:25:54

been collapse that's been compressed

1:25:56

vertically so

1:25:58

there could easily and and out

1:25:59

li war intervals

1:26:01

within those spikes of five

1:26:04

thousand perhaps ten thousand years

1:26:06

were civilizations could have arisen

1:26:08

have some kind well

1:26:11

if you look at the history of civilization

1:26:14

of the last five thousand years why do we see

1:26:16

wealth of the first civilizations i guess

1:26:18

you'd say that that got

1:26:20

any kind of a planetary presence were maritime

1:26:23

civilizations you know

1:26:26

the my knowledge the phoenicians right

1:26:28

the the ones that left architectural

1:26:31

ah

1:26:32

things a great stone the mega

1:26:34

lithic builders the egyptians building

1:26:36

the pyramids and so forth but when

1:26:38

you just consider the pyramids alone you

1:26:41

know i've gone into great detail on the geometry

1:26:43

of the pyramids and geodesy of the pyramids

1:26:46

and how it's i mean

1:26:48

i can say definitively that the great

1:26:50

pyramids aren't accurate representation

1:26:52

of the

1:26:54

scale of the northern hemisphere

1:26:57

the scale of forty three thousand two hundred to want

1:27:01

though

1:27:02

that ideas been dismissed by critics

1:27:05

look at it superficially seats while

1:27:08

you can anybody can play with numbers and come

1:27:10

up with something but the

1:27:12

which is correct

1:27:14

the point is though if you have a number

1:27:16

that has universal significance embedded

1:27:19

in the sumerian traditions the my and traditions

1:27:22

the biblical the

1:27:25

the basic traditions

1:27:27

then it's that core number

1:27:30

it provides the scaling ratio for

1:27:33

the pyramid

1:27:34

well that to me

1:27:36

makes it very difficult to just dismiss

1:27:38

it as as a mere coincidence

1:27:41

right so there

1:27:43

, many many examples

1:27:46

examples things that are out of context

1:27:48

in the very earliest phases of of human

1:27:50

civilization they are as we think

1:27:53

of it you know if we march the

1:27:55

rise of civilization

1:27:57

with the appearance basically appearance variety that's

1:28:00

what the history history is with

1:28:02

, with the appearance of right enough goes

1:28:04

back to heated sumer sumer

1:28:06

forty five hundred and five thousand years ago

1:28:09

but if we consider that

1:28:11

the first urban complexes where constructed

1:28:15

between eight nine thousand years ago

1:28:18

the in the first couple of millenniums

1:28:20

immediately following

1:28:23

the end of the great ice age if

1:28:26

we consider that to domestication of animals

1:28:30

with , the exception of dogs are

1:28:32

primarily took place post

1:28:34

glacial you know that

1:28:37

the know that of agriculture

1:28:39

and farming in those first

1:28:41

millennia or two posts glacial the

1:28:44

, of languages same thing

1:28:46

you can they traced back to our ten thousand

1:28:49

years ago well it

1:28:51

the old model is that

1:28:53

just as long continuum of of barbarism

1:28:57

of people never getting beyond the

1:28:59

the level love of our nomadic

1:29:01

hunter gatherers

1:29:03

tens of thousands of years and and suddenly

1:29:05

around ten thousand years ago steaks

1:29:08

begin to accelerate you begin to see cities

1:29:10

you begin to see agriculture you bmc domestic

1:29:12

animals you seeds language is spreading

1:29:15

over you see people spreading this

1:29:17

goes on for three four thousand years and

1:29:19

now so we've got the flowering of civilizations

1:29:22

four thousand five thousand years of civilization

1:29:24

and here we are

1:29:25

right while

1:29:27

i think

1:29:28

the word a position now to realize that

1:29:30

it's very possible that what we're seeing

1:29:33

posts glacial between eight and ten thousand

1:29:35

years ago might actually be the rebooting

1:29:39

of human civilization

1:29:43

and

1:29:44

when you realize like this picture

1:29:46

that's behind me years now

1:29:50

we'll have to do another one of these gristle really

1:29:52

like it into oh yeah this

1:29:54

, a four hundred foot cliff behind me here

1:29:57

and the other side of this side of four hundred

1:29:59

foot clear somewhere

1:30:01

around fourteen thousand years ago forty

1:30:04

million cubic feet per second of

1:30:06

water does through this

1:30:08

barely which at the time

1:30:10

was almost up to the level of these cliffs

1:30:14

well what your see here spend a single

1:30:16

event that ripped out four hundred

1:30:18

feet of bedrock along

1:30:20

the previous course

1:30:23

of the snake river in southern idaho now

1:30:26

let's suppose there was there a

1:30:29

vigorous burgeoning clovis community

1:30:31

living along the banks of the same of

1:30:33

the snake river fishing hunting

1:30:36

perhaps perhaps actually been building

1:30:39

things out of timber and logs and

1:30:41

you know

1:30:42

who knows getting what

1:30:44

kind of technological advances

1:30:46

they might have had maybe nothing that looks

1:30:48

like

1:30:49

fossil fuel driven civilization

1:30:52

with a lot of mechanistic things

1:30:54

machinery and cars

1:30:56

and airplanes and aldus although a

1:30:58

car is not going to last much more

1:31:00

than a century of put an old car on

1:31:02

the field and it's mostly rust away

1:31:05

you know in fifty years right okay

1:31:07

now you've got forty million cubic feet per

1:31:09

second of water that comes down this river valley

1:31:12

well whatever was

1:31:14

here going on under sources this river

1:31:16

before this blood completely

1:31:18

gone

1:31:20

the because you get this blood ripped out four hundred

1:31:22

feet of bedrock now you

1:31:24

consider that i in my podcast

1:31:26

cosmic raffia dot com i've had

1:31:28

multiple episodes from the joint were virtually

1:31:31

every river valley in north america his

1:31:33

head

1:31:34

gigantic floods in and

1:31:36

, course we can expand the not out

1:31:39

we talked earlier about tsunami see other

1:31:41

place that an obvious civilization

1:31:43

would arise would be along the coastlines

1:31:46

rights particularly if you've

1:31:48

got several

1:31:50

cultural centers or or urban

1:31:52

complexes forming a longer but the

1:31:54

cost lives it's the networks of trade

1:31:56

deformed it cause the city's oftentimes

1:31:59

to be built

1:31:59

while couple of bowl id backs

1:32:02

into the ocean say bye bye to those

1:32:04

coastal cities third on director

1:32:06

they're eliminated completely by

1:32:09

so the point is years we have to take

1:32:11

your time outdoor wait outdoor wait we can't make any

1:32:13

definitive claims about what may or

1:32:15

may not have happen

1:32:18

three glacial anti delusional

1:32:21

i say before the great floods that

1:32:23

ended the ice age and

1:32:26

we really need to rethink that and then

1:32:28

on top of that we have this massive

1:32:30

growing massive tantalizing information

1:32:33

that suggests that the almost

1:32:35

proclaims there's more to the story

1:32:38

i mean come on who's going

1:32:40

four hundred and eighty two foot tall

1:32:42

perfectly geometrically formed pyramid

1:32:45

seized in white polished white

1:32:47

limestone and what

1:32:49

that's gonna be built by subsistence

1:32:52

farmers on their time off ramey

1:32:55

it makes no sense

1:32:57

that's what we're gonna have to get to get into next

1:33:00

time is some of these ancient

1:33:02

, methods technologies

1:33:05

you know up paternal you

1:33:07

know energy technologies all these things

1:33:09

that the that go along with this that

1:33:11

are really want to talk about but yeah like you said

1:33:14

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