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242. Pews for the Deeply Cynical, with Your Emails

242. Pews for the Deeply Cynical, with Your Emails

Friday, 15th July 2022
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as education the it's just

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it around some places and to see her at foals

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chains and you i have i

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can but only because of a has this this is this

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off the cuff for costs i was all echoes

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is that asked it's it's a man colds

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are normal sit determinism coming

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up a james cleverly our

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is it james cleverly or thought

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so can seize them because i saw a set

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of him last night on the nice where he was standing

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on est i think he was definitely

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and some kind of capacity of either economic

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so leveling up at , stay

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on that stay ladies education this

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morning is is is this is not

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in a d more michelle or anybody else minutes

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had to have him ah

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yes i wonder what i wonder was a school it's

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tempting to up i'm sure they thought something

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with this ah and anyway what you

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think what you think my hancock force

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front will have to move on and so

1:19

just to put ourselves in historical

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context because this food you will

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be a document if oh dear

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can be a document that will be stood by his storied

1:28

so we just need to place ourselves to make it

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is as we speak and district

1:33

next week and this week it's

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to die the eight yes

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it is too though the at twenty and twenty

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times twenty see that's already confusing

1:41

says confusing says says the future who

1:43

are listening to us in the presence

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this is almost like your favorite expression of all

1:48

time have not got tossed themselves

1:50

back into the past because we are talking

1:52

on fridays the eight but the slant the heard

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until five assists yeah

1:57

i wish time james cleverly

2:00

could be an entirely new role and

2:03

, this it's hard to think one that would suit

2:05

him better than the one is currently occupying

2:07

in terms of his name so statistics

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around because of that just six

2:11

to sort of sense of a not not a political comment us

2:14

to to with myself she

2:17

chuckles to herself now we should explain

2:19

and that you can't be with us

2:22

i'm into a room i now know to be called the soft

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eg at i didn't realize

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that there was a sustained says is the other

2:29

posts is that when the that is

2:32

that had a full eleven minutes the room

2:34

next to this is very soft

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it's about six minutes and

2:38

sixty five seconds at cold

2:41

plunging into cold water is cold

2:43

if you like a soft boiled eggs

2:45

or have no identity or not and rex tillerson

2:48

the baby she's proud to bring you fortunately

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with see and yet another collection of

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the random an unrelated see

2:55

glover and jankovic know handily

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available and podcast home

3:00

the idea your home or

3:02

for quite complicated domestic reason

3:04

so it this is like an old school cost

3:07

of next but not with each other it's quite enough in a way

3:09

it's really nice

3:10

that veteran

3:11

percentage is been been selected

3:14

since it's

3:14

of this way that gets a phrase that isn't

3:17

the throat

3:18

i know i am wearing a

3:21

one , my summary conceptions

3:23

the i like to perform with the temperature really

3:25

does he so i think it's love

3:27

really lovely i it's i've already common sense

3:30

of fair how nice it is it's

3:32

some it's a peasant

3:33

top among look

3:35

it is it's it's pretty in a my mother

3:37

would approve if she could say it's but year the reason

3:39

i'm wearing as i realize

3:41

is the i've just come have foot

3:44

an into doing poll dog actor

3:47

a turner and i think

3:50

at some policy my crazed

3:52

subconscious i , it would be sitting

3:54

if i would this kind his eighteenth

3:57

century seventeenth century blue some

3:59

peasant and that

4:01

he might be irresistibly drawn to me

4:04

despite the fact that he's very happily married

4:06

to a devastating the wonderfully attractive

4:08

woman

4:09

about half my age has

4:12

some says your mind does play tricks and yasuda excuse

4:15

to the fully aware of it that you're not

4:18

them a break them stem suffered

4:20

way that was for

4:22

a man is deemed to have this

4:25

how for oratory

4:27

the oratorios at it as he was

4:30

also that wouldn't have won the depths

4:32

soak it was a if det supt would have jumped

4:34

it right out that they really i don't want

4:37

to send miss the brakes was a really

4:40

horrible phrase the by a don't

4:42

win would you normally applies when

4:45

i don't know and i know that lots of people have been

4:47

trying to find it's origin

4:50

and i noticed that michael rosen

4:52

had put out a tweet asking people to

4:54

like katie they other

4:57

the usages as the phrase

4:59

because he couldn't place it in if michael nice and

5:01

com places and nobody can fit

5:03

it was a very yeah i agree it was agree very odd

5:05

lot since something that wasn't immediately

5:08

recognizable or demonstrative

5:11

something spot demonstrative wanted to swell

5:13

web weather at see weather

5:15

speech rice's a no longer on

5:17

the clock and what we call as as good

5:19

as i can authentic boris

5:22

the , bit it was strange and

5:25

and of see it's not for us to

5:27

comment in a political has shame

5:30

that's not our place but would i not opposed

5:32

i do like is it or lose you and where

5:34

i was when i found out that he was going

5:36

to resign that is it on the concourse

5:39

paddington station yesterday morning

5:42

and saw on the phone i what

5:44

i find reassurance is that

5:47

the atmosphere the at at crowded

5:49

bustling paddington station it

5:51

didn't it wasn't even a flicker everybody

5:54

just carried on doing what they were doing sitting

5:57

there last there buying a copy

5:59

of the day express i'm

6:02

, whether they could chance and almond croissant

6:04

are all of that stuff was just people looking for platforms

6:08

platforms the must be as the must be a german word

6:10

for a number of hours

6:12

of my life that have been devoted to gazing officers

6:15

railway announcement bored looking for the platform

6:17

anyway all of that there was

6:19

no discernible change in the atmosphere

6:22

when

6:23

the only half the people

6:24

important found out that that information

6:26

at same time at the other lovely

6:29

thing about yesterday was you know what the most read article

6:31

was on the bbc news website oh

6:34

my goodness i'm very much hoping it's going to be

6:36

a bus jellyfish also do is about the whether

6:38

it was a heat wave of course a here is

6:40

a common but it'll be sick and i thought

6:42

it just pop in a very interesting little many

6:44

challenge ninety to get such as us about it

6:46

but just little challenge to our listeners because

6:49

we are talking on the friday after

6:51

the access to a big walloping

6:53

says the edge followed really decisions

6:56

and at times discombobulating wednesday

6:59

as , said was a week for headed

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notepaper notepaper ,

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m have an upset

7:06

physicists have sedates and say

7:09

i wonder how much as

7:11

now changed when much listening to

7:13

this on the following

7:16

friday because this a ceiling is

7:18

another where most of us on the

7:20

social and reading or the stuff all the

7:22

time and like basking sharks we are just

7:24

ingesting months it

7:26

does make you i think have

7:28

months it more kind as invested sense

7:31

in what's going

7:33

on around you because you can see

7:35

every resignation christmas assists in your

7:37

face all the time you're living and breathing

7:39

it a lot more even if you're not lessing that

7:42

seven you'll say so the concourse and paddington

7:44

but i wonder how you now sale at

7:47

a whole week on whether this just sounds

7:49

daft and so saw

7:52

in the rearview mirror as to

7:54

the either the kind

7:56

that you start fast food thing by twenty

7:59

seconds spill interesting

8:01

because i can't believe that so much would have

8:03

happened again in a week that would really change

8:06

that political atmosphere again

8:08

that to not i mean we marched through it

8:10

out we do and we'll need to

8:12

come to terms with a how we may to seal

8:15

by the shock resignation of somebody

8:17

we didn't know existed as

8:20

, was a tough one for me i never had this

8:22

is the oh the resignation the trade

8:24

envoy to the on the dogs has

8:26

resigned i was only imposition

8:29

first ten minutes and is that enough

8:31

on a c and i had thrown our hearts

8:33

into the proverbial ring when they're a little bit

8:35

younger or even a we to

8:38

could be in the rough pulitzer actually

8:41

sounds funny but we could be in

8:43

a running theme prime minister if we'd only

8:45

taken

8:46

oh let's , for

8:48

rather queasy when exactly sees no

8:50

good no good than a good about politicians if

8:52

you're not prepared to pull in the hard meters

8:55

uses

8:56

they regret what several customers

8:59

they can you anyway the slack off a broadcaster

9:01

of he had prepared to the goes in front of a serious

9:04

of know the thing nine hundred

9:06

feet and etti will never felt right

9:08

leg the a pro cost is particularly bbc

9:10

woods because i got some of

9:12

the fiscal correspondence were amazing

9:15

off on your friend that rigby i was watching

9:17

her on on worrying wednesday how

9:20

, she she just keeps going she's a seat

9:22

yourself on a christmas present

9:25

present at the at out

9:27

yeah i think you're right and i'd love the thought this

9:29

we live in an age where people

9:31

coughing politics can be so much more

9:34

fluent and can innovate

9:36

they go off pieced they at knowledge

9:38

some of the craziness around the edges and i

9:41

think it's brilliant and it's hopefully it will in

9:43

invite more people into the conversation

9:45

around politics or really anything like great then

9:48

you write what an interesting comparison

9:51

it would make if he played as

9:54

something even to do with do with john major's

9:57

end of days at t johnson's

10:00

end of days that deference has gone through

10:02

services deference i think still there

10:05

twenty or so years ago the you just

10:07

wouldn't speak in the same kind

10:09

of inform away at

10:12

say thats and old the sir absolutely

10:14

sir notice that sea breezes were had train

10:16

as on question time of in that says something doesn't

10:19

it was it was it's the says

10:20

people a boost to the in the trade this

10:23

is just as

10:24

atlanta aren't done something that i've never

10:26

done before unless something changes well

10:29

now i put sense of of for

10:31

all the emails in order other and

10:33

us states armed relevant ones together

10:36

and they're in six hundred topic

10:38

form and stare fatally organized

10:40

lucky will that is that's it but exhaust whoop

10:43

because of suits are blown away

10:45

by it and turner i haven't given much thought

10:47

to this is i would have done tonight my face

10:49

and let us be a isis gonna ask you one

10:51

little many question about satan at

10:54

so how

10:56

do you phrased the question see him

10:58

about his losses

11:01

, at and the amounts of the serious

11:03

attention that he gets from women

11:05

and can you do that thing where

11:08

you flip the in your head and think how

11:10

to save the city grown man had

11:12

would especially since

11:15

to go into view view

11:18

an extraordinarily it's extraordinarily

11:20

younger female to

11:23

see way to get sick is an interval

11:25

on we and is basically put but way

11:27

i'm thank you for need setting me up

11:29

marginally in the in in question the

11:32

of it's serious feminist classes

11:34

so it's you will have a thoughts about getting

11:36

a very it's to response to the quests miles

11:39

along the lines because of

11:41

a was davis's before for my other

11:43

employees system super super any of

11:45

that with business of the radio times

11:47

and they did one a couple questions about pulled out

11:50

because it's massive pulled know bulldoze massive

11:53

and and there is that incredibly mitchell's

11:55

him mitchell's is breaches in

11:57

breaches in a sealed with sealed sigh in a come

11:59

to can't you got that you've gone sister

12:02

know nothing i'm sure you can't

12:04

he should see a face and

12:06

, where he was use of see extremely funny

12:08

about that and it was just very nice

12:10

chap on surrounds of his chest sex

12:13

i'm going to thing that sticks at the ethics of

12:16

i know i wasn't expecting anything nasty but

12:18

i just wonder how that does sale because

12:20

you're you're really entitled to be offended

12:22

by it as a as a woman

12:25

woman i say i mean we have to agree i think we have

12:27

to acknowledge as you have done that

12:29

there is a sorters double standard

12:32

at work here where it is now is

12:35

ladies and some men to

12:38

enjoy mail to

12:40

say in breaches girl

12:43

when you're absolutely right we

12:45

would be very suspicious of

12:47

the opposite occurring rightly and

12:50

i think don't want for well can we just live with

12:52

that enjoyable double standard because

12:54

it had so much of the other stuff going on here

12:56

and that's and different says that it doesn't

12:58

seem to lead in the same way

13:01

or have or have and the same way to

13:03

slightly menacing predatory the soviets

13:05

behavior yes and that so in

13:07

what said very true that's yes

13:10

yes here at five and you know we say

13:12

this is so as to whether he's performed

13:14

on stage with a couple process his face

13:16

if we have behind us great j s

13:19

he was one a day of and

13:21

didn't we have to be as

13:25

the of hurricane or tip we have the

13:27

novel we wouldn't be well be the greatest

13:30

respect it wouldn't be one of the nestles i

13:32

don't think unless it was tracy neville the netball

13:34

ace every

13:36

every other sooner we did have a footballer and

13:38

stage behind us have one of those shows

13:41

so guys are against some only a

13:43

carousel scared yeah we're of

13:47

us he was the way that you have the way to waste goes

13:49

into saw will

13:50

well

13:53

fed cir air conditioning the openness

13:55

stadia okay

13:56

really of in a we got so

13:58

much to say about that when that comes

13:59

this stuff so yes we have what we should

14:02

say unless it was the women's euros

14:04

up and running on i really do

14:06

hope the england and northern ireland

14:08

do well i know think the got when northern ireland

14:10

an , the challenge she gets norway

14:13

but of is so brilliant if you're my

14:15

age and you did play football as

14:17

a kid that had to give out because they didn't

14:19

play football adult of its

14:21

and stick to get to stage in

14:24

our lifetime or you got nearly seventy

14:26

thousand people at thousand people football much ado

14:28

really think that's progress i think it's brilliant yes

14:31

i think you're right says yes to s okay

14:34

so we're going to start with the because

14:37

we promise that we would recommend some

14:40

books or just say what we're reading as you're

14:42

intending to read over the summer

14:44

but we have quite have few interesting very specific

14:47

queries about books at

14:49

one from linda he wanted

14:52

but recommendations to kickstart

14:54

leading again at she says in

14:56

your podcast your recommend good books that you're

14:58

currently reading like many others have fallen out of

15:00

the habit and the last few years on

15:02

still is a few books but haven't been put by any

15:05

as and so can the team and listeners recommend

15:07

anyone for books that are anyone put down that

15:09

bill that can kick start of eating habits again

15:11

at we've also got one about books recommending

15:13

to younger selves and then general

15:16

but t that add books that

15:18

would kick start reading to do you have

15:20

any so summer as is slightly discover

15:23

and i wonder sometimes if you've been of reading

15:25

the best thing to do is to go into nonfiction

15:28

on , sometimes eat it or i do

15:30

i do abandoned six and

15:32

sometimes and been

15:35

i've been fortunate position where of sometimes haven't

15:37

bought often haven't bought the book has been sent

15:39

to me in the hope that i might talk

15:42

to us foods and i'm

15:44

i i don't like other read it you

15:46

see it didn't get on with

15:48

sorrow and bliss the

15:50

book five make mason which led to the beloved

15:54

and thought it noted you like abacus like just

15:56

didn't in the and us or stop reading nuts

15:59

i loved it there and i really loved it

16:01

and that she sat at that was funny enough

16:03

is if we rehearsed this at that was

16:05

on my little list for linda because

16:07

lender i had exactly the same problem while i really

16:10

struggled to stick with the book

16:12

is i think my brain is is that a bit wobbly

16:14

and jellyfish like over the last

16:16

couple years at the i think i

16:18

really enjoyed make mason cause i could

16:21

kind of see the streets that she was talking about

16:24

and that would be my recommendation that

16:26

to find a book that is or the second

16:28

somewhere you know or features said the you

16:30

know because it just makes

16:32

that little leap easier into

16:35

it i insist sticking with a story on

16:38

lost my ability say you and i

16:40

absolutely loved suddenly as the last couple years

16:42

out baton law says as well as

16:44

others the teargas the old as i say

16:47

harper chris have chris summer

16:49

and j getting yeah yep taking you

16:51

often see australian out but

16:53

i really struggled to get back inside because

16:56

it says it felt like it was asking too much

16:58

as my head so i've read quite a seamless faced

17:00

in london or edinburgh us places

17:02

that i can visualize not

17:04

, us instinct is so

17:06

i would say i really want to go back to talk

17:08

about the non six and i've enjoyed by

17:10

sorted no no this historian of

17:12

judea bullied who's written these books about

17:15

germany and on another business

17:17

already been through too great books called travellers

17:19

in the third reich and the village

17:21

in the third reich and i

17:24

mean i'm fifty eight so i was born what

17:27

was it nineteen years of the end of the

17:29

second will walks which is so close to

17:31

the under the second world war that so

17:33

, features a race if you have that get

17:35

a would say nothing about that that would

17:37

i don't actually scandalous

17:40

li know as much about the causes

17:42

of it as i should because

17:44

if you're my age you would to school

17:47

which seem really it when

17:49

you think about it anyway and he read

17:51

these books and you to particularly the

17:53

book called a village in the third reich which just

17:55

sees the rises of

17:57

nazi germany through the prism

17:59

one small village in bavaria

18:02

and the impact of the population and

18:05

it is astonishing and it brings it

18:07

all life brings life truly horrific way sex

18:09

horrific you want to get in on it's a it's a very

18:11

easily digested on

18:14

there are

18:15

it goes off it varies it was destination

18:17

tangents and you will see

18:19

meek

18:21

people i didn't really know existed said people

18:23

who source of pretended

18:26

to be nazis

18:28

stop more fervent nazis

18:30

reaching positions of authority the

18:34

i did not know that there were people like that

18:36

so they're amazing folks says

18:38

you know in the mood for fiction have a look at them they

18:41

can lose yourself in the world is fascism

18:44

where i know it's not exactly and it's

18:46

it's not a holiday read necessarily

18:48

of gothic surinder quite right u

18:51

s that fit fit seven maybe

18:53

holidays are the places where you can

18:55

read darkest hour fi with devour

18:57

crime section on holiday

19:00

because this is a certain kind of safety

19:03

as the sun lounge or and the nice kind

19:05

of place that your it to there are now a lot

19:07

of the of fun kind of easy there are a lot of books

19:09

written in in sectors

19:12

hello sectors of as either based in holiday villas

19:14

where somebody goes awry goes awry have

19:16

foods goofy grin the jill half that he

19:18

was on talking about the drawbridge is a holiday

19:21

it's as if it's it a very blue

19:23

we resort somewhere where is

19:25

actually a d eleven celsius match they

19:28

were floating on christmas

19:30

, malta another nonfiction book that has really

19:32

stayed with me and i heard this book rather

19:34

than reading it was viola davis his

19:37

autobiography finding me me

19:40

, is isn't

19:42

probably notes it's not an easy

19:45

companion in the sense that she had

19:47

salts a tough childhood

19:49

i mean i had absolutely no idea of

19:52

the city of abject poverty

19:54

that she grew up in and the challenges

19:56

that she's over cops and and to

19:58

hear her she read the book is united

20:02

it's such a brilliant listen and

20:04

again

20:04

i'm yeah the to it's not

20:06

you can't predict the guess it easily

20:09

i guess that's a good thing going to recommend book is rather

20:11

good to recommend will the he the guess

20:14

so i heard that little was brilliant the

20:17

show a l a sense of fun saying

20:19

i'm of solo into waiting next week

20:21

my final escape between finishing my masters

20:23

and starting my job starting

20:25

in milan going through italy than austria

20:28

hungary check i think it's czech republic

20:30

know germany and finishing off with as much

20:32

scandinavia as i can possibly squeeze

20:35

in to my mad catz forty day

20:37

adventists apart from some focus

20:39

on relying on my kindle for entertainment

20:42

so any books you'd recommend once that you

20:44

read in your twenties at

20:46

once that you wish you had one spot travel

20:48

once not fat travel essex easy

20:51

weeds nonfiction far away as

20:53

off thinking about ssc the books in my twenties

20:56

the odds recommend i just

20:58

did this to set some really cool

21:01

the thing by know restaurant

21:03

cool and her collection of essays

21:05

and

21:05

the and my sinuses and

21:08

i feel bad about my name as that

21:10

the so say crazy salads at which said

21:12

such and some of her the pieces that

21:14

she published i've read anything

21:16

by macchio feral started reading her my twenties

21:18

never stops and stops

21:21

and yates revolutionary well that's

21:23

a great book don't you think

21:25

that that that that's a book to read when

21:27

you're young sis about that changing

21:30

horizon the cynicism the

21:32

either your belief when you're younger the

21:35

you can change all these things and

21:37

then maybe different reality coming

21:40

on board that the novelist i remember

21:42

absolutely devouring in my late

21:44

teens and twenties was never shoot

21:48

never , no wonder if you to said now

21:50

never see it was nobody was up but

21:52

but of he wrote a

21:54

town like alice i'm and

21:57

again i'm and seem that would their much twenty

21:59

first century said scrutiny and

22:01

, also wrote a book about the apocalypse

22:05

on find the name is that because

22:07

thera tell my callous the australian

22:09

outback

22:10

what kind of his australian outback new all

22:13

that it was about yes yeah it was it's that

22:15

it's an amazing book that i mean i like a say i'm sure

22:17

that the people do have concerns about it now but

22:20

react if the other my internet is

22:23

that what the hell is live without books or it's

22:25

never shoot on

22:29

the beach the book about the apocalypse and that

22:32

i said why that has been remake that that

22:35

could be a great film

22:37

of on the beach which they get paths

22:40

make twenty first century was a i'm

22:42

sure

22:42

due to the is a good

22:44

a really good storyteller and as

22:47

say sui to but so the summer

22:49

to dinner in a brief list

22:52

as well what are you going to take to

22:54

the sub launcher of joy for

22:57

, it i've got this crime book

22:59

called the stoning switches illustrated

23:02

with some taking it is this bill

23:04

and it's sort of such no other it's

23:07

doesn't sound like of potboiler other

23:09

potboiler my peasant blue so the that to

23:11

enjoy the i say what you're made of sorry stern

23:13

stuff at the moment ah yes absolutely i

23:15

think of just assume service

23:18

everybody else is reaching i think

23:21

something a little bit also like for us

23:23

is this don't

23:25

pope

23:26

open up a book again i

23:28

read recently is abby morgan's memoir

23:31

of oh this is not have had yes yes

23:33

and this is not a busy man will add that is

23:36

, nonfiction so people in the mood

23:38

for six is a really recommend that book

23:41

book have a really aware

23:43

that i haven't recommended and us thing

23:45

remote delight horses that that's me

23:47

i'm afraid okay fair

23:49

enough fair have just started

23:51

abby dollar raise the girl with the mounting voice

23:54

which was the recommendation from and the

23:56

recommendation of her amongst other people is beautiful

23:58

and i i

24:01

say saw a minibus as the way three

24:03

and i was highly recommend that i

24:06

also do what james the system in a long

24:08

time and i really enjoyed

24:10

a collection of short stories and i don't know

24:12

how you said about short stories because i think

24:15

the me they are often

24:17

says often says bit about like a meal

24:19

replacement drink either the just not as a

24:21

dot coms on here it's it's

24:24

quite satisfying enough no matter

24:26

how good they are that lucy

24:28

caldwell's i think it's just

24:30

called intimacies those are really

24:32

brilliant and and

24:34

a more towels has he come across him

24:37

he's the guy he wrote

24:39

a gentleman in moscow's i think

24:41

ah commissioning editor know that recommended

24:44

rules the civility by him and i'm just

24:46

about to embark on and legal lincoln hi

24:49

this is the way i sit up build a bookshop

24:51

that's my she told business that's

24:54

what they say to my three kind of summer

24:56

reading saying okay and

24:58

, just say that state people people

25:00

who i really like also same thing

25:02

about tell his writing that it's beautiful

25:04

it's just lose yourself in

25:07

all of his words it's not necessarily

25:09

put boiling plot twists ago good

25:11

the is good the i see like a male and

25:14

tyler quite possibly

25:17

practice of the in a competitive

25:19

after i finish the at the

25:21

lincoln highway that's the one to buy gentlemen

25:24

and moscow's for the and is it's yes i guess

25:26

i know that's the recommended to me and i haven't read the

25:28

either courses temps when you say more

25:30

or able i just the caster a move and

25:32

has terrible distance more

25:35

in a violent love island

25:38

oh island he that stamps theory that

25:40

went completely asleep over

25:42

my head and under my son yeah

25:46

how's it going over surveys

25:49

say had to specially extend the at this the

25:52

why

25:55

because they love it said in the blurb

25:57

there was

25:57

blue jays read coupling

26:01

some extent

26:03

, they actually knocked another program

26:05

back in order to bring use

26:08

more needs as we would have to things

26:10

vs three coupling data day is

26:13

this don't not savages as it does a i

26:16

wonder i wonder whether i wonder have a long

26:18

term future realize entertainment i don't

26:20

know i'm certainly his current

26:22

partner atkinson is

26:25

the woman who have i think will

26:27

be she's gonna live with us for quite

26:29

some to boost post the

26:31

island that's my prediction sweden

26:34

or the road and lovato to visit one

26:36

of the competitors our competitors

26:39

participants thought that was an act

26:41

gould else and job

26:47

i know it's time for another seamless

26:49

transition from me shown kidney he

26:51

very welcome

27:00

sweet fun at a reference

27:03

we just say the yes on the and keep

27:05

it that no more yes no more

27:07

stairs san chain as as i can he does

27:09

a lot of weddings i must admit to guessing a bit

27:12

set up with the meticulous details related

27:14

to wedding preparations brides mothers

27:16

are especially pedantic as a minor

27:18

points bride successive up

27:21

see lens and you

27:23

say resorts up who owned pew

27:25

and said that's why you don't just have

27:27

flowers all around the church you have

27:30

in south tied around every pew

27:32

and i think that's what it is

27:35

could collect looks beautiful but not

27:37

of flu trippy centers

27:39

and imagine if imagine hazy the suffer as

27:41

he will kidney just think i've done for

27:44

systems with it because this that have to be have separate

27:46

section of the as the church for

27:49

allergic soak

27:50

l gf is a

27:52

terrible kind of see the seals glove

27:54

box and and his stick stick

27:57

the lactose intolerant somewhere else

27:59

the balloons

27:59

in the thick could stand in the i'm

28:02

what's , called was not room where you go to sign

28:05

the with the the face of every tree yeah

28:08

i'm and a people who don't like

28:10

weddings well they didn't need to bloody guy to

28:12

do they they i was going to say i

28:14

think what you really need now is a couple of peace

28:16

at the back for the deeply cynical are

28:18

cynical allowed

28:21

to keep them mobile phone calls his old school

28:23

polka what about children's ringing to ask where i am

28:25

hung on a second on so low

28:27

children are always calling to ask

28:30

about what i'll be back been about

28:32

an hour okay about

28:35

what see it got a good of literally

28:38

doing it by by him

28:40

gunny of milk the girls

28:44

at , favorite suggested just

28:46

press of my favorites include the bride's

28:48

mother who wore her hands to the rehearsal

28:50

is rehearsing the hat even

28:53

as saying agree with mother and

28:55

fool me that they were going to have an hour

28:57

to fly the rings to the front of the church

29:00

i said it without wise because i'll sometimes

29:02

don't

29:02

and where does it is to go

29:04

so i had to decline the

29:06

sega or use the term with caution who

29:09

performs in brackets murders song

29:11

during the signing of righteousness is especially

29:13

challenging to and i like to check

29:15

the churches insurance policy for potential

29:17

damage to the stained glass windows despite

29:20

all this i do have to officiate at weddings and

29:22

despite the occasional bride sell us

29:24

there are lots of lovely bride screens and

29:26

families who make the occasions a wonderful

29:29

time for all these statements from my name

29:31

in case of recognizes the wedding excesses

29:33

an hour and well how low

29:35

wealth of of surprise you that remember

29:37

the ahead of sure of

29:40

it was the same for same while his need

29:42

to do with harry potter having

29:44

an hour at your wedding well i say

29:46

yes i would imagine it it yeah and

29:49

and unfortunately this is very serious it

29:51

led to a spate

29:54

good old a word that says i tell

29:56

you what at any moment now you're going to

29:58

use the word though of them

30:00

will know that your tax rate and tabloids

30:02

like temperatures hire a diplomat

30:06

via the ballet gop operative gop operative

30:08

with an assist other thing is and we never

30:10

get those headlines on days was gorgeous

30:13

in malaga a bloody awful here malaga

30:16

sizzle as britain in august

30:18

essay says up at his routine celsius

30:21

and heavy rain the cia

30:24

and but yet get that sorted out yes our

30:26

it led this led this for hours

30:28

at weddings and lead to a

30:31

horrible state of our dumping

30:34

when hours who hadn't been up to the

30:36

task and did indeed as a reference to just

30:39

go rogue in the church well

30:41

then dumped that's

30:44

terrible changes it is terrible

30:46

and will or not we're not going to go down in history being

30:48

the pocus the endorses our dumping

30:51

or laughs ss because

30:53

, should be entirely free do their thing

30:56

and why on earth would they want

30:59

to cooperate with

31:01

some

31:02

the of people

31:03

the way to leave get an

31:06

adult so i sell i think as

31:08

well it isn't said there was a vote

31:10

with those are saying so releasing process

31:12

lies at one stage wasn't again stupid

31:15

yeah which which is so many people

31:17

had points out the bus for said to stay in the

31:19

wrong neck of the would have seen as a need to be very

31:21

close to whether correct so

31:24

lives in stasis system mr be cruel

31:26

things as close as we know love

31:28

is likable supplies and

31:30

federico

31:35

i think they might be some kind of like this

31:37

the best still test as it might be some

31:39

kind of the tests were actually the

31:41

more ridiculous the wedding

31:44

kind as idiosyncrasies the more likely

31:46

divorces they ,

31:48

to necessary about that are you still still

31:51

for size of susie fortunately dot polka

31:53

to pvc dakota ha dakota

31:55

, i'm typically attracted by or idea of

31:57

the pews for the deeply cynical texas

31:59

if looking

32:02

and definitely catacombs

32:05

us but he that now used

32:07

by catholics filed your email

32:09

so as to just as level

32:11

oh okay well there was just another one

32:13

about a about weddings and i think she

32:15

wanted to read this one last week and we didn't have

32:18

time so i'll read it and you comment here

32:20

we go a d d c and

32:22

jane it's another one a please keep my name

32:24

anonymous and that's always fun fine by us at

32:26

the email you have last week from the listen to feeding

32:28

down about the friend's wedding celebrations

32:31

really struck a chord as a child

32:33

of a relatively stable happy home

32:35

raised on disney and jane austen you

32:37

know my thoughts on that it never occurred

32:40

to me that they would be a world in which i would still

32:42

be single at thirty eight in

32:44

my twenties and thirties i sat through

32:46

a catalogue of wedding speeches and most

32:48

of the cuts me was how this opportunity the

32:50

reason our culture to celebrate people

32:53

outside weddings sitting opposite

32:55

a heartbroken friend whose relationship

32:57

but just fallen apart at one watching and

32:59

listening to the luffy speeches celebrating

33:01

the bride all i could think was when

33:03

will this friend be celebrated she's

33:06

just as fabulous impressive in her achievements

33:08

and deserving of praise the

33:10

wedding yes if my twenties and early thirties

33:13

to have depressing moments from particular

33:15

evening sticks out and three friends spent

33:17

an entire dinner discussing that forthcoming

33:20

nuptials and i admit i cried

33:22

walking home oh

33:24

, and felt similarly guilty and

33:26

self centered friends who are single

33:28

and then found the one seem

33:31

to forget the camaraderie and pain of singled

33:33

him and spectacularly fluent that happiness

33:36

making it hard not to be reminded of once

33:38

in fairy an inferiority

33:41

a being single now saudi

33:43

i'm afraid similar emotions arise when friends

33:45

told me that pregnant and i feel incredibly

33:47

guilty for having a sinking feeling you

33:49

realize when friends have children that they will always

33:51

have a priority which will trump you

33:53

as a friend and right the said

33:56

oh so very sad email it to

33:59

says are your [unk] you know yes

34:01

yes and and said just saying

34:06

go children are a tree blessing feel very lucky

34:08

to have five and yes that better helped me

34:10

when i'm in old age a so

34:12

i think that just struck so many cool it's actually

34:14

and there's so many good points just made in

34:16

the couple of paragraphs and where

34:18

do you celebrate

34:20

the really wonderful

34:23

be no

34:24

the follows

34:26

humor laughter achievement whatever

34:28

it is life as a single

34:30

person not , harrison

34:33

it is miss her and were it

34:35

when it loved about the email was that it's was

34:37

the rule and is expresses

34:39

his emotions and i suspect lots of people

34:42

feel a pang get the opportunity

34:44

to offload all that free critic is

34:46

so it's a to that listener thank

34:48

you for big so honest and i

34:51

didn't with other still thirty eight who has who

34:53

has think of it by the way says he a doesn't seem that

34:56

certain foods with some

34:58

in and you don't know you genuinely don't

35:00

know what lies ahead do another but

35:02

there are greasy food into the trust as issue that

35:05

what this person one says mr

35:07

right to who's interview and make everything better

35:10

and not might not be the solution at all

35:12

and and maybe it isn't even a solution

35:15

ah , i do you think

35:17

that that's changing that's think

35:19

at that if you want

35:21

her the film ethan feel more comfortable

35:24

and see more decent

35:26

role models around here for

35:29

the single life not the single life

35:31

that happens after the together life

35:33

breaks but just the single life

35:36

t , they are different i've been on i mean to us

35:38

a single person i know the world is couple

35:40

is couple shaped isn't as it is on the whole

35:43

and it can be quite quite us

35:45

in a decision thing as honest as that listener it

35:47

can sometimes be tricky and

35:51

ah either auto

35:52

the you will in your

35:54

teeth and sees about the injustice

35:57

of it all of the out as if this there's no

35:59

point

35:59

they don't know i'd i'd take ah

36:02

but no thanks to that this known idea known idea

36:04

for them and i know that sometimes

36:06

it's just such a childish things

36:08

say it's know fast but sometimes

36:10

it just isn't i'm

36:12

an atheist is not fair and

36:15

the some really decent people i

36:17

, suffer at the social

36:19

random injustices misses us

36:22

he will get some truly dreadful people who

36:24

find each other and i'm sure they make each

36:26

other very very happy or process

36:28

and and can i just say on that

36:30

site and cool say i weighed he rarely

36:33

that remember those two phases

36:35

one where nearly every cycle at

36:37

that you answers neither congratulations

36:40

on someone getting married doesn't dead

36:42

married couple years later nearly every thankful you

36:44

answered with congratulations you're having

36:47

congratulations baby and i think sometimes often

36:49

at what what people he's gonna get it

36:51

together and have children whatever

36:53

it is living the dream at don't realize

36:55

is that may be single people don't have an endless

36:58

energy to congratulate you on

37:00

we know what what is it has chosen

37:02

to do in your own life in think

37:05

sometimes that there is an expectation is remember

37:07

seen a bit worn out with congratulations

37:09

at stake or slow the time us about thirty

37:11

size that will ask that's

37:13

great but the know that's in your you

37:15

to as you keep to crack on with

37:17

it

37:21

is your uterus you crack

37:23

on about

37:23

yeah okay that's absolutely

37:25

gorgeous and assessment i hope you

37:28

just you didn't actually express his

37:30

it but i also know what you mean as

37:33

of a d three

37:35

painful if he says he that

37:37

you're trying to children is it still works or

37:39

us either all of that all of us

37:42

we'll we'll need to the before

37:44

he went he why and you raise an interesting point before

37:46

we've been our friends with

37:48

some wonderful information the fossil self

37:50

is it really think do

37:53

they want to know that is how

37:56

we're a benefit the finding out

37:59

about this

37:59

which means something to me

38:02

as alleges to say and other no such as

38:04

yeah see they have the energy why

38:06

my signing this person either if

38:08

if i'm happy enough about the state of my

38:11

life still i do i need this person

38:13

to stand up and abroad and william we

38:15

all know that deep down as nothing love the since

38:17

the didn't with a friend is having a really her receive

38:20

time the

38:21

you

38:23

could empathize with so

38:26

the it will physically try to be absolutely

38:28

honest i have a son well as well

38:31

we're being honest about the for example in rules

38:33

costing us put it easier to this is

38:35

always widespread

38:38

happy , at another another

38:41

success is this is

38:43

,

38:45

oh i know not

38:47

what you refer to james and united

38:49

nessa as i had a com this is a

38:51

cookie express emotion

38:54

o , i think i must have been assist

38:56

assist us

38:58

get a can we just briefly go back to fox's

39:01

until early briefly that listeners

39:03

but this listeners but his sit at the salt and

39:05

since he says this is about that fuck

39:08

who did you haven't listened to recent book us it won't be much

39:10

to the are we headed for a long running conversation

39:12

about we do with dead forces and this

39:14

listener was at a council a parish

39:16

and town council which they described

39:19

as the lowest rung of the council latter

39:21

the , size of his district and county

39:24

the uses of mistakes and making

39:26

a chance we get endless pools

39:28

all day every day from people thinking we've

39:30

got more power than we actually happens in the

39:33

district and or county council's do all the

39:35

really important works council spins

39:37

housing and any and all other exciting

39:40

things you'd call a council about state

39:42

of the council's very sensibly have a machine

39:44

answer phone to fill to pause that

39:46

are small office and purse council

39:49

just has me me in the afternoon

39:51

a colleague at the end of the line which makes us

39:53

something of a sounding board i've

39:55

heard no end of people's problems and the upsetting

39:58

to the hilarious the be involving

40:01

excrement before being able

40:03

to interrupt and say look i'm really sorry

40:05

you need to speak to the district or county council

40:07

about that would you like their phone number

40:10

people , get very cross when i

40:12

can't solve the leftovers for them but

40:14

i just wanted to send out an appeal to spare

40:17

a thought for the people of the other end

40:19

of the phone i find it as frustrating

40:21

as everybody else it's impossible to work out

40:24

who to ask about for want

40:26

of want better phrase that chef with local life

40:28

with local try be as helpful as i can but

40:31

it can be really difficult i am only

40:33

a receptionist

40:34

which brings me to your podcast

40:37

it was very funny hearing the other side of the coin

40:39

when the conversation about reporting dead folks

40:41

who came up and i realized that

40:43

was

40:44

query i hadn't had thankfully

40:47

, bingo card was completed this

40:49

morning when i arrived at work

40:51

at nine am switch the phone on and

40:53

the first call was what do

40:55

i do with the dead folks in front of my

40:57

house house they can say

41:00

is that sanctions to that cool

41:02

a stroke listeners to service and up and

41:04

let people who answer so do you know any ring the band

41:06

can he get some of

41:08

these calls are being modest signal restless

41:11

and people are probably still horrible

41:13

on they even though they know their calls a big

41:15

bonuses and checked in with

41:17

that i mean i have i have

41:19

many have i

41:21

many

41:23

but i would never

41:25

ever ever be horrible said he put in those

41:27

circumstances why witches why

41:30

on earth would you

41:31

the people i guess , sure

41:33

they are and sometimes yeah

41:36

i think think think it's hard

41:38

to i get up i get upset with people

41:40

not suit the you know i get upset and are not

41:42

so i get a kind of lizards and

41:45

i have come quite place to crying

41:47

as a as office of

41:49

the days cool of the the days

41:51

i sig yes sometimes because

41:53

he's been on hold oh

41:56

is that to say your name will spell something

41:58

in a forty five

41:59

kinds of we get sweeter human being

42:02

and they then also was quite

42:05

how not to do the guess

42:07

in that first initial kind of this is why i'm

42:09

here but i t sale for them i'd

42:11

love to sit in one of those seminars where

42:13

they play back some of the asked and the yes

42:16

that is a up the stuff that has been monitored

42:19

and recorded on very much site to

42:21

hear that and i'm sure that all of us must

42:23

have a phone call enough where we will be a little

42:25

bit sad for ourselves

42:28

that we had not been as nice as is

42:30

humanly possible sites you know what you made

42:32

me really did lose my temper losing of i'm

42:35

in two thousand and four

42:38

and it wasn't prissy

42:39

okay can

42:41

i feel that electronic tag it cg

42:44

so , male menopause

42:46

a this one comes from edwards

42:49

a who is sixty four years old and we did

42:51

asked didn't we wanted to him or

42:53

it is about what men go through

42:55

to because we fortunately welcoming

42:57

then since twenty seventeen dish

43:01

hyphen j i know if your podcast listen

43:03

to everyone i was interested in your comments regarding

43:05

the lack of mad experiences of erectile

43:08

dysfunction and the male menopause so i thought

43:10

so would share my experience of aging from

43:12

aging male point of view point of it hard

43:14

to come to terms with the whole process

43:16

on sometimes wonder what was the purpose

43:18

of my life anymore no longer a laugh

43:20

at and they don't get needed as a father in

43:22

the way i was for my daughter was small and

43:25

no longer valued professionally in

43:27

my fifties i find myself working in an

43:29

office with a number of much younger male engineers

43:32

all out to prove a point i used to say

43:34

on monday mornings in the office was a bit like autumn

43:36

watch you know the usual rutting stag

43:38

stuff in this scenario i felt like

43:41

the old displace stack i've

43:43

often had women say they feel invisible

43:45

when they age and go through the menopause but

43:47

this was how i felt at that time to

43:50

sudden i suddenly i was classified as an

43:52

idiot nothing i settled did was

43:54

have any value my experience and opinions

43:56

counted for nothing during this period

43:59

my confidence

43:59

thou and it also coincided with my

44:02

prostrate enlarging and my

44:04

wife will say getting three the men oppose

44:06

in my experience aging from the now points

44:08

of view is a challenge just trying

44:10

to find a road and nice i'm

44:13

sixty four now i have two grandsons

44:15

i'm retired and happy in my role as

44:17

pop and p s at

44:19

to all of this is after leaving the unhappy office

44:21

with the young engineers i worked on the bbc panorama

44:24

program which uncovered the volkswagen

44:26

diesel exhaust gas emissions

44:28

scandal and appeared with which is

44:31

thought to test them it

44:36

read that and i suppose that's a bit

44:38

sad isn't it been in a he just

44:41

devices that the opposite sex

44:43

is going through something akin to what you're going

44:45

three teeth not with great

44:47

that is good to hear

44:49

i'd like to see more of those stories

44:52

ready because in that

44:54

kind is shared experience

44:56

shared experience

44:56

find fifteen

44:58

they find it a bit more strikes on

45:00

both sides wouldn't leave quite

45:02

you rare just to get that male voice

45:05

and to own up to your what

45:07

, perceive to be your increasing

45:09

irrelevance i think it's you

45:11

don't hear enough of that because we're used to manage

45:14

that age still strutting their stuff

45:17

and telling us how fabulous as and how

45:19

yeah how wonderful the horizon know

45:21

that town that of course have that picket

45:23

fence the brakes brakes the

45:25

way that subject as subject

45:29

, say and chain hearing you say this week

45:31

how bold as to use the word tampon and

45:33

a podcast reminded me of a recent misheard

45:35

lyrics are being sent press to hear

45:37

a song currently getting lots of radio to airplay

45:40

and having the lower your short seized

45:42

just like a tampon how modern

45:44

unfold and forty confidence as cigarettes

45:46

i thought good on radio t for playing it's

45:48

i thought such clever wordplay a

45:50

tampon doesn't seem to have a short fuse

45:53

i said as much my two teenage boys

45:56

the lyric is just like a time bomb

45:58

them explained to sixty

45:59

the around the house by able max navy

46:02

or the problem listen to the course and please

46:04

tell me it's not just me that this

46:06

is t fabulous lady some cass

46:08

at say our i know exactly

46:10

the song you mean and it's

46:12

wishful thinking to believe cast

46:15

and that it's flu shots he's just like a tampon

46:17

succeed while i turned on the tv

46:19

yesterday find

46:22

us expecting to what some tennis

46:24

to find sue barker billie jean king

46:26

and tracy us and all discussing periods

46:29

and , and whites

46:32

when blood the cinema our is yes

46:34

and i just thought we've come a long way

46:36

we've really radio a to come a long way

46:38

and it was a fascinating reports and i

46:40

didn't know you know why wimbledon hasn't

46:43

all lawyers uniform policy

46:46

so it's because as they didn't

46:48

want sweat stains

46:50

to sell off on college

46:52

the boots were

46:54

isn't that just ridiculous in itself

46:57

either , got you've got sports

46:59

men and women clearly take something

47:01

that will make you sweat but you shouldn't

47:03

see slant slant

47:05

fashioned dissonance is ridiculous ah

47:08

ridiculous or like this have

47:10

another of i'd love to thought the mr bonuses

47:12

won't get missiles anonymous of in egypt basically

47:15

the people to know the listen to this toss and we

47:17

both get us so that's of save us we'd

47:19

both been on was to of if we

47:21

of could write

47:23

this is from somebody says on have to stop

47:25

listening or one i'm walking the dog because i love

47:28

love my gut says i wouldn't be ashamed about

47:30

that that could merciless this week

47:32

here in your guest leon moriarty the russia

47:34

being described as a suburban housewife

47:37

then not just a suburban

47:39

house west of the house with me have

47:42

recently had mental health issues and will

47:44

and i was referred to an nhs listening and counseling

47:46

service though his initial conversation

47:48

by phone to assess conversation help with needed

47:51

even in my current muddled stays

47:54

i could appreciate the reasons asking if i was

47:56

taking care of personal hygiene

47:58

and dressing that is

48:00

really put has been asked if i was managing

48:02

to keep up with the cooking housework

48:05

and shopping despite ,

48:07

knowing or had a partner living at home

48:10

home my poverty caring and capable

48:12

husband wouldn't be inconvenienced

48:15

during my illness or

48:17

would a man with a wife has been asked the same

48:19

question now i just don't

48:21

sit i saw i don't know whether

48:23

of a man would have been asked the same the

48:27

do you think it's odd that this woman was

48:29

asked if she was able to

48:31

manage with the housework cooking

48:34

i think is it's not a question

48:36

that soft to be that anybody

48:39

who presents at with

48:41

a with a mouth mental illness

48:44

then it's entirety in the just

48:46

absurd to be asked about housework

48:48

that

48:49

i would hate that that's not the and

48:51

really has that's not the case anymore and

48:55

companies companies somehow just

48:58

dreadful if it is really really dreadful

49:00

yeah it is simply to be intolerable

49:03

me up and i hope you're feeling better society

49:07

and i just wanted to read to read of

49:09

an email we probably would start wrapping up

49:11

see think yeah right

49:13

if it

49:17

, asleep yet yet

49:19

know you can read but that's

49:21

just because of the only caught for me to call upon

49:24

hurting call i got

49:26

the law since i've got some nice move yeah exactly

49:28

the same can can i just [unk] jeffery a

49:30

tiny bit of an email from dynamic because

49:32

it was just say peaceful it's a

49:34

apropos of nothing slit their

49:37

into a little bit of a radio four type nature uses

49:39

a but yet here we go a

49:41

and it's titled losing eight one hundred

49:44

year old year and

49:46

name he just wants you to tell us about

49:48

wants you who has recently

49:50

tonight her name was duty but

49:52

she was a hundred years old and awesome

49:54

in every sense of the words how funny

49:57

that you got onto talking about the mixed blessing

49:59

of living one hundred rice at the same

50:01

time as nanny was listening

50:03

another speak eco instance she

50:06

would have completely agreed with you any a few

50:08

days before she fell ill she was telling

50:10

me how lonely and sad it could fail knowing

50:12

that had contemporaries were almost

50:14

all dead and name is facing

50:16

just written a really thoughtful and

50:18

lovely use a t about her

50:20

grandmother and i'll just read little

50:22

bit sick as the words just peaceful she was

50:25

with each shop creative playful

50:27

well informed stylish graceful

50:30

mischievous irreverent bowls

50:32

and brave and constantly curious

50:35

nothing and womb and thoughtful

50:37

no matter what circumstances you met

50:39

her under you would have loved her she was

50:41

an irresistible pass and when she wanted

50:44

to be she could also be sharp and

50:46

merciless when the mood took her she

50:48

had a way of doing things and you could never

50:50

predict whether she would completely embrace

50:52

a new approach or witheringly dismiss

50:55

it as have had suffered a son and

50:57

successor i think there are some very

50:59

wonderful adjectives attached to that lasers

51:01

and out on us how to stay at

51:04

she was magnificent says there may i loved

51:06

her as she was there from the day i was born saying

51:08

they a pattern of womanhood that didn't

51:10

center around the pleasing of others that

51:13

saved me what fearlessness looked like an

51:15

ordinary day to day life and showed

51:17

me that conformity could be treated

51:19

as a benefit that

51:22

a lot about this is what a lovely way

51:24

to end can i say thank you for

51:26

that we i see genuinely love hearing

51:29

at your which assume your memories of female

51:31

rest is in particular can be incredibly thompson

51:34

i think it's than one of the second one of the highlights

51:36

of doing fort smith been hearing about those

51:38

special people in people's lives you just made out of your

51:40

life better and

51:43

, think i think with both settle for should be light up

51:45

when we all that know when have club have helped

51:48

you know a guess know that

51:50

with know would be the else that face an isis

51:52

love it isis love it when people explains

51:55

a in as as said pashtuns as the savior

51:57

that they can to wait he respects and

51:59

low

51:59

is often they're so different so

52:02

what we might have all been brought

52:04

up to sink a is the best

52:06

kind of play for a woman so i really

52:08

love

52:08

stuff like that if well

52:11

i'm before i head off in my parents

52:13

top to look for somebody with a size goes

52:15

on regent street icicles

52:17

, i do see anybody i will be calling in

52:19

the authors and we've

52:21

got ah hum knitted of

52:23

the lesson from on

52:26

listener

52:27

there's a lipo

52:29

oh gosh he said he

52:31

insists she

52:38

what is it a concert

52:40

oh and pay

52:43

for it

52:43

this

52:47

is

52:47

you

52:50

need to consult a tough

52:52

he didn't see the attack move that

52:55

brilliant had either thing

53:00

is it in this is jane gov if it

53:02

feels another issue

53:05

that really is

53:06

here for

53:09

me

53:10

oh now what are you wearing when

53:12

, didn't have a southwest loosening

53:15

of are wearing on the theory very

53:17

sensible sensible white

53:20

comedy which is approximately

53:23

talk for today and some practises and your

53:25

and front of your jumpsuits

53:27

zealously says absolutely brilliant on

53:30

the solicitude gabi some woman's as a

53:32

still very much feature of my home

53:34

so dorothy thanks for amazon pass this

53:36

on to see when she

53:39

extends an invitation as i'm sure she will very soon

53:41

to the home for a lavish meal

53:43

i will go over with an issue of jets

53:46

very kind my gonna have snazzy

53:48

way from that is especially

53:51

over the summer nancy like and have to spend some

53:53

time apart that while we go

53:55

on that call yes and cease

53:57

to sneak out come with knows so leave

54:00

her with a small message for with my

54:02

identity say and the inevitable he

54:04

but comfort to the ,

54:07

side this side end is ah

54:09

little as some a rung were not back

54:11

and tell rice at the end of august and

54:14

i would like say and enormously heartfelt

54:16

and sincere thank you to all of our listeners

54:19

at your emails just every

54:21

week where me as an email inbox sense of by

54:23

the wonderful on a it's a joy to behold

54:26

all the stuff that you talk about is just wonderful

54:28

with devices if is still listening to us or even

54:31

if he's just left us unsubscribe and you haven't

54:33

listened to the say to yes

54:35

up to a finite

54:37

the octopus

54:38

where enjoy and yes

54:40

i'd like to echo overseas sentiment side

54:42

but i just haven't got time to aca them because of that

54:44

episode milk so it's take

54:47

care of everybody she said which is

54:49

where the rules where he should never say everybody should

54:51

you because we're to talk just speaking to ones

54:53

who into one person or as when we started

54:55

fortunately we were talking to seventeen well now

54:57

to be to a few more ah and

54:59

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