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up a james cleverly our
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morning is is is this is not
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in a d more michelle or anybody else minutes
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yes i wonder what i wonder was a school it's
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tempting to up i'm sure they thought something
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is as we speak and district
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next week and this week it's
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to die the eight yes
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it is too though the at twenty and twenty
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times twenty see that's already confusing
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says confusing says says the future who
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are listening to us in the presence
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this is almost like your favorite expression of all
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time have not got tossed themselves
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back into the past because we are talking
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on fridays the eight but the slant the heard
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until five assists yeah
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i wish time james cleverly
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could be an entirely new role and
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, this it's hard to think one that would suit
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him better than the one is currently occupying
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in terms of his name so statistics
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around because of that just six
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to sort of sense of a not not a political comment us
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to to with myself she
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chuckles to herself now we should explain
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and that you can't be with us
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i'm into a room i now know to be called the soft
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eg at i didn't realize
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that there was a sustained says is the other
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posts is that when the that is
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that had a full eleven minutes the room
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next to this is very soft
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it's about six minutes and
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sixty five seconds at cold
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plunging into cold water is cold
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if you like a soft boiled eggs
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or have no identity or not and rex tillerson
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the baby she's proud to bring you fortunately
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with see and yet another collection of
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the random an unrelated see
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the idea your home or
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for quite complicated domestic reason
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so it this is like an old school cost
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of next but not with each other it's quite enough in a way
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it's really nice
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that veteran
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percentage is been been selected
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since it's
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of this way that gets a phrase that isn't
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the throat
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i know i am wearing a
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one , my summary conceptions
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the i like to perform with the temperature really
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does he so i think it's love
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really lovely i it's i've already common sense
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of fair how nice it is it's
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some it's a peasant
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top among look
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it is it's it's pretty in a my mother
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would approve if she could say it's but year the reason
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i'm wearing as i realize
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is the i've just come have foot
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an into doing poll dog actor
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a turner and i think
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at some policy my crazed
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subconscious i , it would be sitting
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if i would this kind his eighteenth
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century seventeenth century blue some
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peasant and that
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he might be irresistibly drawn to me
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despite the fact that he's very happily married
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to a devastating the wonderfully attractive
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woman
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about half my age has
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some says your mind does play tricks and yasuda excuse
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to the fully aware of it that you're not
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them a break them stem suffered
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way that was for
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a man is deemed to have this
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how for oratory
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the oratorios at it as he was
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also that wouldn't have won the depths
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soak it was a if det supt would have jumped
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it right out that they really i don't want
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to send miss the brakes was a really
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horrible phrase the by a don't
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win would you normally applies when
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i don't know and i know that lots of people have been
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trying to find it's origin
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and i noticed that michael rosen
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had put out a tweet asking people to
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like katie they other
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the usages as the phrase
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because he couldn't place it in if michael nice and
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com places and nobody can fit
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it was a very yeah i agree it was agree very odd
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lot since something that wasn't immediately
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recognizable or demonstrative
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something spot demonstrative wanted to swell
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web weather at see weather
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speech rice's a no longer on
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the clock and what we call as as good
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as i can authentic boris
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the , bit it was strange and
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and of see it's not for us to
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comment in a political has shame
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that's not our place but would i not opposed
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i do like is it or lose you and where
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i was when i found out that he was going
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to resign that is it on the concourse
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paddington station yesterday morning
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and saw on the phone i what
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i find reassurance is that
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the atmosphere the at at crowded
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bustling paddington station it
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didn't it wasn't even a flicker everybody
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just carried on doing what they were doing sitting
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there last there buying a copy
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of the day express i'm
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, whether they could chance and almond croissant
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are all of that stuff was just people looking for platforms
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platforms the must be as the must be a german word
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for a number of hours
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of my life that have been devoted to gazing officers
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railway announcement bored looking for the platform
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anyway all of that there was
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no discernible change in the atmosphere
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when
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the only half the people
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important found out that that information
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at same time at the other lovely
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thing about yesterday was you know what the most read article
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was on the bbc news website oh
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my goodness i'm very much hoping it's going to be
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a bus jellyfish also do is about the whether
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it was a heat wave of course a here is
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a common but it'll be sick and i thought
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it just pop in a very interesting little many
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challenge ninety to get such as us about it
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but just little challenge to our listeners because
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we are talking on the friday after
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the access to a big walloping
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says the edge followed really decisions
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and at times discombobulating wednesday
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as , said was a week for headed
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notepaper notepaper ,
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m have an upset
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physicists have sedates and say
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i wonder how much as
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now changed when much listening to
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this on the following
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friday because this a ceiling is
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another where most of us on the
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social and reading or the stuff all the
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time and like basking sharks we are just
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ingesting months it
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does make you i think have
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months it more kind as invested sense
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in what's going
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on around you because you can see
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every resignation christmas assists in your
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face all the time you're living and breathing
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it a lot more even if you're not lessing that
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seven you'll say so the concourse and paddington
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but i wonder how you now sale at
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a whole week on whether this just sounds
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daft and so saw
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in the rearview mirror as to
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the either the kind
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that you start fast food thing by twenty
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seconds spill interesting
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because i can't believe that so much would have
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happened again in a week that would really change
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that political atmosphere again
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that to not i mean we marched through it
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out we do and we'll need to
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come to terms with a how we may to seal
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by the shock resignation of somebody
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we didn't know existed as
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, was a tough one for me i never had this
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is the oh the resignation the trade
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envoy to the on the dogs has
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resigned i was only imposition
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first ten minutes and is that enough
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on a c and i had thrown our hearts
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into the proverbial ring when they're a little bit
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younger or even a we to
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could be in the rough pulitzer actually
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sounds funny but we could be in
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a running theme prime minister if we'd only
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taken
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oh let's , for
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rather queasy when exactly sees no
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good no good than a good about politicians if
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you're not prepared to pull in the hard meters
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uses
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they regret what several customers
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they can you anyway the slack off a broadcaster
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of he had prepared to the goes in front of a serious
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of know the thing nine hundred
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feet and etti will never felt right
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leg the a pro cost is particularly bbc
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woods because i got some of
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the fiscal correspondence were amazing
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off on your friend that rigby i was watching
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her on on worrying wednesday how
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, she she just keeps going she's a seat
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yourself on a christmas present
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present at the at out
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yeah i think you're right and i'd love the thought this
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we live in an age where people
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coughing politics can be so much more
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fluent and can innovate
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they go off pieced they at knowledge
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some of the craziness around the edges and i
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think it's brilliant and it's hopefully it will in
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invite more people into the conversation
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around politics or really anything like great then
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you write what an interesting comparison
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it would make if he played as
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something even to do with do with john major's
9:57
end of days at t johnson's
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end of days that deference has gone through
10:02
services deference i think still there
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twenty or so years ago the you just
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wouldn't speak in the same kind
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of inform away at
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say thats and old the sir absolutely
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sir notice that sea breezes were had train
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as on question time of in that says something doesn't
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it was it was it's the says
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people a boost to the in the trade this
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is just as
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atlanta aren't done something that i've never
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done before unless something changes well
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now i put sense of of for
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all the emails in order other and
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us states armed relevant ones together
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and they're in six hundred topic
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form and stare fatally organized
10:40
lucky will that is that's it but exhaust whoop
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because of suits are blown away
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by it and turner i haven't given much thought
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to this is i would have done tonight my face
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and let us be a isis gonna ask you one
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little many question about satan at
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so how
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do you phrased the question see him
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about his losses
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, at and the amounts of the serious
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attention that he gets from women
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and can you do that thing where
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you flip the in your head and think how
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to save the city grown man had
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would especially since
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to go into view view
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an extraordinarily it's extraordinarily
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younger female to
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see way to get sick is an interval
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on we and is basically put but way
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i'm thank you for need setting me up
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marginally in the in in question the
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of it's serious feminist classes
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so it's you will have a thoughts about getting
11:36
a very it's to response to the quests miles
11:39
along the lines because of
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a was davis's before for my other
11:43
employees system super super any of
11:45
that with business of the radio times
11:47
and they did one a couple questions about pulled out
11:50
because it's massive pulled know bulldoze massive
11:53
and and there is that incredibly mitchell's
11:55
him mitchell's is breaches in
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breaches in a sealed with sealed sigh in a come
11:59
to can't you got that you've gone sister
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know nothing i'm sure you can't
12:04
he should see a face and
12:06
, where he was use of see extremely funny
12:08
about that and it was just very nice
12:10
chap on surrounds of his chest sex
12:13
i'm going to thing that sticks at the ethics of
12:16
i know i wasn't expecting anything nasty but
12:18
i just wonder how that does sale because
12:20
you're you're really entitled to be offended
12:22
by it as a as a woman
12:25
woman i say i mean we have to agree i think we have
12:27
to acknowledge as you have done that
12:29
there is a sorters double standard
12:32
at work here where it is now is
12:35
ladies and some men to
12:38
enjoy mail to
12:40
say in breaches girl
12:43
when you're absolutely right we
12:45
would be very suspicious of
12:47
the opposite occurring rightly and
12:50
i think don't want for well can we just live with
12:52
that enjoyable double standard because
12:54
it had so much of the other stuff going on here
12:56
and that's and different says that it doesn't
12:58
seem to lead in the same way
13:01
or have or have and the same way to
13:03
slightly menacing predatory the soviets
13:05
behavior yes and that so in
13:07
what said very true that's yes
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yes here at five and you know we say
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this is so as to whether he's performed
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on stage with a couple process his face
13:16
if we have behind us great j s
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he was one a day of and
13:21
didn't we have to be as
13:25
the of hurricane or tip we have the
13:27
novel we wouldn't be well be the greatest
13:30
respect it wouldn't be one of the nestles i
13:32
don't think unless it was tracy neville the netball
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ace every
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every other sooner we did have a footballer and
13:38
stage behind us have one of those shows
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so guys are against some only a
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carousel scared yeah we're of
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us he was the way that you have the way to waste goes
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into saw will
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well
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fed cir air conditioning the openness
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stadia okay
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really of in a we got so
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much to say about that when that comes
13:59
this stuff so yes we have what we should
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say unless it was the women's euros
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up and running on i really do
14:06
hope the england and northern ireland
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do well i know think the got when northern ireland
14:10
an , the challenge she gets norway
14:13
but of is so brilliant if you're my
14:15
age and you did play football as
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a kid that had to give out because they didn't
14:19
play football adult of its
14:21
and stick to get to stage in
14:24
our lifetime or you got nearly seventy
14:26
thousand people at thousand people football much ado
14:28
really think that's progress i think it's brilliant yes
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i think you're right says yes to s okay
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so we're going to start with the because
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we promise that we would recommend some
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books or just say what we're reading as you're
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intending to read over the summer
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but we have quite have few interesting very specific
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queries about books at
14:49
one from linda he wanted
14:52
but recommendations to kickstart
14:54
leading again at she says in
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your podcast your recommend good books that you're
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currently reading like many others have fallen out of
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the habit and the last few years on
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still is a few books but haven't been put by any
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as and so can the team and listeners recommend
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anyone for books that are anyone put down that
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bill that can kick start of eating habits again
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at we've also got one about books recommending
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to younger selves and then general
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but t that add books that
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would kick start reading to do you have
15:20
any so summer as is slightly discover
15:23
and i wonder sometimes if you've been of reading
15:25
the best thing to do is to go into nonfiction
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on , sometimes eat it or i do
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i do abandoned six and
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sometimes and been
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i've been fortunate position where of sometimes haven't
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bought often haven't bought the book has been sent
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to me in the hope that i might talk
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to us foods and i'm
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i i don't like other read it you
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see it didn't get on with
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sorrow and bliss the
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book five make mason which led to the beloved
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and thought it noted you like abacus like just
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didn't in the and us or stop reading nuts
15:59
i loved it there and i really loved it
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and that she sat at that was funny enough
16:03
is if we rehearsed this at that was
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on my little list for linda because
16:07
lender i had exactly the same problem while i really
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struggled to stick with the book
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is i think my brain is is that a bit wobbly
16:14
and jellyfish like over the last
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couple years at the i think i
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really enjoyed make mason cause i could
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kind of see the streets that she was talking about
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and that would be my recommendation that
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to find a book that is or the second
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somewhere you know or features said the you
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know because it just makes
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that little leap easier into
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it i insist sticking with a story on
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lost my ability say you and i
16:40
absolutely loved suddenly as the last couple years
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out baton law says as well as
16:44
others the teargas the old as i say
16:47
harper chris have chris summer
16:49
and j getting yeah yep taking you
16:51
often see australian out but
16:53
i really struggled to get back inside because
16:56
it says it felt like it was asking too much
16:58
as my head so i've read quite a seamless faced
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in london or edinburgh us places
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that i can visualize not
17:04
, us instinct is so
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i would say i really want to go back to talk
17:08
about the non six and i've enjoyed by
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sorted no no this historian of
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judea bullied who's written these books about
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germany and on another business
17:17
already been through too great books called travellers
17:19
in the third reich and the village
17:21
in the third reich and i
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mean i'm fifty eight so i was born what
17:27
was it nineteen years of the end of the
17:29
second will walks which is so close to
17:31
the under the second world war that so
17:33
, features a race if you have that get
17:35
a would say nothing about that that would
17:37
i don't actually scandalous
17:40
li know as much about the causes
17:42
of it as i should because
17:44
if you're my age you would to school
17:47
which seem really it when
17:49
you think about it anyway and he read
17:51
these books and you to particularly the
17:53
book called a village in the third reich which just
17:55
sees the rises of
17:57
nazi germany through the prism
17:59
one small village in bavaria
18:02
and the impact of the population and
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it is astonishing and it brings it
18:07
all life brings life truly horrific way sex
18:09
horrific you want to get in on it's a it's a very
18:11
easily digested on
18:14
there are
18:15
it goes off it varies it was destination
18:17
tangents and you will see
18:19
meek
18:21
people i didn't really know existed said people
18:23
who source of pretended
18:26
to be nazis
18:28
stop more fervent nazis
18:30
reaching positions of authority the
18:34
i did not know that there were people like that
18:36
so they're amazing folks says
18:38
you know in the mood for fiction have a look at them they
18:41
can lose yourself in the world is fascism
18:44
where i know it's not exactly and it's
18:46
it's not a holiday read necessarily
18:48
of gothic surinder quite right u
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s that fit fit seven maybe
18:53
holidays are the places where you can
18:55
read darkest hour fi with devour
18:57
crime section on holiday
19:00
because this is a certain kind of safety
19:03
as the sun lounge or and the nice kind
19:05
of place that your it to there are now a lot
19:07
of the of fun kind of easy there are a lot of books
19:09
written in in sectors
19:12
hello sectors of as either based in holiday villas
19:14
where somebody goes awry goes awry have
19:16
foods goofy grin the jill half that he
19:18
was on talking about the drawbridge is a holiday
19:21
it's as if it's it a very blue
19:23
we resort somewhere where is
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actually a d eleven celsius match they
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were floating on christmas
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, malta another nonfiction book that has really
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stayed with me and i heard this book rather
19:34
than reading it was viola davis his
19:37
autobiography finding me me
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, is isn't
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probably notes it's not an easy
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companion in the sense that she had
19:47
salts a tough childhood
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i mean i had absolutely no idea of
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the city of abject poverty
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that she grew up in and the challenges
19:56
that she's over cops and and to
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hear her she read the book is united
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it's such a brilliant listen and
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again
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i'm yeah the to it's not
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you can't predict the guess it easily
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i guess that's a good thing going to recommend book is rather
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good to recommend will the he the guess
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so i heard that little was brilliant the
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show a l a sense of fun saying
20:19
i'm of solo into waiting next week
20:21
my final escape between finishing my masters
20:23
and starting my job starting
20:25
in milan going through italy than austria
20:28
hungary check i think it's czech republic
20:30
know germany and finishing off with as much
20:32
scandinavia as i can possibly squeeze
20:35
in to my mad catz forty day
20:37
adventists apart from some focus
20:39
on relying on my kindle for entertainment
20:42
so any books you'd recommend once that you
20:44
read in your twenties at
20:46
once that you wish you had one spot travel
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once not fat travel essex easy
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weeds nonfiction far away as
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off thinking about ssc the books in my twenties
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the odds recommend i just
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did this to set some really cool
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the thing by know restaurant
21:03
cool and her collection of essays
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and
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the and my sinuses and
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i feel bad about my name as that
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the so say crazy salads at which said
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such and some of her the pieces that
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she published i've read anything
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by macchio feral started reading her my twenties
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never stops and stops
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and yates revolutionary well that's
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a great book don't you think
21:25
that that that that's a book to read when
21:27
you're young sis about that changing
21:30
horizon the cynicism the
21:32
either your belief when you're younger the
21:35
you can change all these things and
21:37
then maybe different reality coming
21:40
on board that the novelist i remember
21:42
absolutely devouring in my late
21:44
teens and twenties was never shoot
21:48
never , no wonder if you to said now
21:50
never see it was nobody was up but
21:52
but of he wrote a
21:54
town like alice i'm and
21:57
again i'm and seem that would their much twenty
21:59
first century said scrutiny and
22:01
, also wrote a book about the apocalypse
22:05
on find the name is that because
22:07
thera tell my callous the australian
22:09
outback
22:10
what kind of his australian outback new all
22:13
that it was about yes yeah it was it's that
22:15
it's an amazing book that i mean i like a say i'm sure
22:17
that the people do have concerns about it now but
22:20
react if the other my internet is
22:23
that what the hell is live without books or it's
22:25
never shoot on
22:29
the beach the book about the apocalypse and that
22:32
i said why that has been remake that that
22:35
could be a great film
22:37
of on the beach which they get paths
22:40
make twenty first century was a i'm
22:42
sure
22:42
due to the is a good
22:44
a really good storyteller and as
22:47
say sui to but so the summer
22:49
to dinner in a brief list
22:52
as well what are you going to take to
22:54
the sub launcher of joy for
22:57
, it i've got this crime book
22:59
called the stoning switches illustrated
23:02
with some taking it is this bill
23:04
and it's sort of such no other it's
23:07
doesn't sound like of potboiler other
23:09
potboiler my peasant blue so the that to
23:11
enjoy the i say what you're made of sorry stern
23:13
stuff at the moment ah yes absolutely i
23:15
think of just assume service
23:18
everybody else is reaching i think
23:21
something a little bit also like for us
23:23
is this don't
23:25
pope
23:26
open up a book again i
23:28
read recently is abby morgan's memoir
23:31
of oh this is not have had yes yes
23:33
and this is not a busy man will add that is
23:36
, nonfiction so people in the mood
23:38
for six is a really recommend that book
23:41
book have a really aware
23:43
that i haven't recommended and us thing
23:45
remote delight horses that that's me
23:47
i'm afraid okay fair
23:49
enough fair have just started
23:51
abby dollar raise the girl with the mounting voice
23:54
which was the recommendation from and the
23:56
recommendation of her amongst other people is beautiful
23:58
and i i
24:01
say saw a minibus as the way three
24:03
and i was highly recommend that i
24:06
also do what james the system in a long
24:08
time and i really enjoyed
24:10
a collection of short stories and i don't know
24:12
how you said about short stories because i think
24:15
the me they are often
24:17
says often says bit about like a meal
24:19
replacement drink either the just not as a
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dot coms on here it's it's
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quite satisfying enough no matter
24:26
how good they are that lucy
24:28
caldwell's i think it's just
24:30
called intimacies those are really
24:32
brilliant and and
24:34
a more towels has he come across him
24:37
he's the guy he wrote
24:39
a gentleman in moscow's i think
24:41
ah commissioning editor know that recommended
24:44
rules the civility by him and i'm just
24:46
about to embark on and legal lincoln hi
24:49
this is the way i sit up build a bookshop
24:51
that's my she told business that's
24:54
what they say to my three kind of summer
24:56
reading saying okay and
24:58
, just say that state people people
25:00
who i really like also same thing
25:02
about tell his writing that it's beautiful
25:04
it's just lose yourself in
25:07
all of his words it's not necessarily
25:09
put boiling plot twists ago good
25:11
the is good the i see like a male and
25:14
tyler quite possibly
25:17
practice of the in a competitive
25:19
after i finish the at the
25:21
lincoln highway that's the one to buy gentlemen
25:24
and moscow's for the and is it's yes i guess
25:26
i know that's the recommended to me and i haven't read the
25:28
either courses temps when you say more
25:30
or able i just the caster a move and
25:32
has terrible distance more
25:35
in a violent love island
25:38
oh island he that stamps theory that
25:40
went completely asleep over
25:42
my head and under my son yeah
25:46
how's it going over surveys
25:49
say had to specially extend the at this the
25:52
why
25:55
because they love it said in the blurb
25:57
there was
25:57
blue jays read coupling
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some extent
26:03
, they actually knocked another program
26:05
back in order to bring use
26:08
more needs as we would have to things
26:10
vs three coupling data day is
26:13
this don't not savages as it does a i
26:16
wonder i wonder whether i wonder have a long
26:18
term future realize entertainment i don't
26:20
know i'm certainly his current
26:22
partner atkinson is
26:25
the woman who have i think will
26:27
be she's gonna live with us for quite
26:29
some to boost post the
26:31
island that's my prediction sweden
26:34
or the road and lovato to visit one
26:36
of the competitors our competitors
26:39
participants thought that was an act
26:41
gould else and job
26:47
i know it's time for another seamless
26:49
transition from me shown kidney he
26:51
very welcome
27:00
sweet fun at a reference
27:03
we just say the yes on the and keep
27:05
it that no more yes no more
27:07
stairs san chain as as i can he does
27:09
a lot of weddings i must admit to guessing a bit
27:12
set up with the meticulous details related
27:14
to wedding preparations brides mothers
27:16
are especially pedantic as a minor
27:18
points bride successive up
27:21
see lens and you
27:23
say resorts up who owned pew
27:25
and said that's why you don't just have
27:27
flowers all around the church you have
27:30
in south tied around every pew
27:32
and i think that's what it is
27:35
could collect looks beautiful but not
27:37
of flu trippy centers
27:39
and imagine if imagine hazy the suffer as
27:41
he will kidney just think i've done for
27:44
systems with it because this that have to be have separate
27:46
section of the as the church for
27:49
allergic soak
27:50
l gf is a
27:52
terrible kind of see the seals glove
27:54
box and and his stick stick
27:57
the lactose intolerant somewhere else
27:59
the balloons
27:59
in the thick could stand in the i'm
28:02
what's , called was not room where you go to sign
28:05
the with the the face of every tree yeah
28:08
i'm and a people who don't like
28:10
weddings well they didn't need to bloody guy to
28:12
do they they i was going to say i
28:14
think what you really need now is a couple of peace
28:16
at the back for the deeply cynical are
28:18
cynical allowed
28:21
to keep them mobile phone calls his old school
28:23
polka what about children's ringing to ask where i am
28:25
hung on a second on so low
28:27
children are always calling to ask
28:30
about what i'll be back been about
28:32
an hour okay about
28:35
what see it got a good of literally
28:38
doing it by by him
28:40
gunny of milk the girls
28:44
at , favorite suggested just
28:46
press of my favorites include the bride's
28:48
mother who wore her hands to the rehearsal
28:50
is rehearsing the hat even
28:53
as saying agree with mother and
28:55
fool me that they were going to have an hour
28:57
to fly the rings to the front of the church
29:00
i said it without wise because i'll sometimes
29:02
don't
29:02
and where does it is to go
29:04
so i had to decline the
29:06
sega or use the term with caution who
29:09
performs in brackets murders song
29:11
during the signing of righteousness is especially
29:13
challenging to and i like to check
29:15
the churches insurance policy for potential
29:17
damage to the stained glass windows despite
29:20
all this i do have to officiate at weddings and
29:22
despite the occasional bride sell us
29:24
there are lots of lovely bride screens and
29:26
families who make the occasions a wonderful
29:29
time for all these statements from my name
29:31
in case of recognizes the wedding excesses
29:33
an hour and well how low
29:35
wealth of of surprise you that remember
29:37
the ahead of sure of
29:40
it was the same for same while his need
29:42
to do with harry potter having
29:44
an hour at your wedding well i say
29:46
yes i would imagine it it yeah and
29:49
and unfortunately this is very serious it
29:51
led to a spate
29:54
good old a word that says i tell
29:56
you what at any moment now you're going to
29:58
use the word though of them
30:00
will know that your tax rate and tabloids
30:02
like temperatures hire a diplomat
30:06
via the ballet gop operative gop operative
30:08
with an assist other thing is and we never
30:10
get those headlines on days was gorgeous
30:13
in malaga a bloody awful here malaga
30:16
sizzle as britain in august
30:18
essay says up at his routine celsius
30:21
and heavy rain the cia
30:24
and but yet get that sorted out yes our
30:26
it led this led this for hours
30:28
at weddings and lead to a
30:31
horrible state of our dumping
30:34
when hours who hadn't been up to the
30:36
task and did indeed as a reference to just
30:39
go rogue in the church well
30:41
then dumped that's
30:44
terrible changes it is terrible
30:46
and will or not we're not going to go down in history being
30:48
the pocus the endorses our dumping
30:51
or laughs ss because
30:53
, should be entirely free do their thing
30:56
and why on earth would they want
30:59
to cooperate with
31:01
some
31:02
the of people
31:03
the way to leave get an
31:06
adult so i sell i think as
31:08
well it isn't said there was a vote
31:10
with those are saying so releasing process
31:12
lies at one stage wasn't again stupid
31:15
yeah which which is so many people
31:17
had points out the bus for said to stay in the
31:19
wrong neck of the would have seen as a need to be very
31:21
close to whether correct so
31:24
lives in stasis system mr be cruel
31:26
things as close as we know love
31:28
is likable supplies and
31:30
federico
31:35
i think they might be some kind of like this
31:37
the best still test as it might be some
31:39
kind of the tests were actually the
31:41
more ridiculous the wedding
31:44
kind as idiosyncrasies the more likely
31:46
divorces they ,
31:48
to necessary about that are you still still
31:51
for size of susie fortunately dot polka
31:53
to pvc dakota ha dakota
31:55
, i'm typically attracted by or idea of
31:57
the pews for the deeply cynical texas
31:59
if looking
32:02
and definitely catacombs
32:05
us but he that now used
32:07
by catholics filed your email
32:09
so as to just as level
32:11
oh okay well there was just another one
32:13
about a about weddings and i think she
32:15
wanted to read this one last week and we didn't have
32:18
time so i'll read it and you comment here
32:20
we go a d d c and
32:22
jane it's another one a please keep my name
32:24
anonymous and that's always fun fine by us at
32:26
the email you have last week from the listen to feeding
32:28
down about the friend's wedding celebrations
32:31
really struck a chord as a child
32:33
of a relatively stable happy home
32:35
raised on disney and jane austen you
32:37
know my thoughts on that it never occurred
32:40
to me that they would be a world in which i would still
32:42
be single at thirty eight in
32:44
my twenties and thirties i sat through
32:46
a catalogue of wedding speeches and most
32:48
of the cuts me was how this opportunity the
32:50
reason our culture to celebrate people
32:53
outside weddings sitting opposite
32:55
a heartbroken friend whose relationship
32:57
but just fallen apart at one watching and
32:59
listening to the luffy speeches celebrating
33:01
the bride all i could think was when
33:03
will this friend be celebrated she's
33:06
just as fabulous impressive in her achievements
33:08
and deserving of praise the
33:10
wedding yes if my twenties and early thirties
33:13
to have depressing moments from particular
33:15
evening sticks out and three friends spent
33:17
an entire dinner discussing that forthcoming
33:20
nuptials and i admit i cried
33:22
walking home oh
33:24
, and felt similarly guilty and
33:26
self centered friends who are single
33:28
and then found the one seem
33:31
to forget the camaraderie and pain of singled
33:33
him and spectacularly fluent that happiness
33:36
making it hard not to be reminded of once
33:38
in fairy an inferiority
33:41
a being single now saudi
33:43
i'm afraid similar emotions arise when friends
33:45
told me that pregnant and i feel incredibly
33:47
guilty for having a sinking feeling you
33:49
realize when friends have children that they will always
33:51
have a priority which will trump you
33:53
as a friend and right the said
33:56
oh so very sad email it to
33:59
says are your [unk] you know yes
34:01
yes and and said just saying
34:06
go children are a tree blessing feel very lucky
34:08
to have five and yes that better helped me
34:10
when i'm in old age a so
34:12
i think that just struck so many cool it's actually
34:14
and there's so many good points just made in
34:16
the couple of paragraphs and where
34:18
do you celebrate
34:20
the really wonderful
34:23
be no
34:24
the follows
34:26
humor laughter achievement whatever
34:28
it is life as a single
34:30
person not , harrison
34:33
it is miss her and were it
34:35
when it loved about the email was that it's was
34:37
the rule and is expresses
34:39
his emotions and i suspect lots of people
34:42
feel a pang get the opportunity
34:44
to offload all that free critic is
34:46
so it's a to that listener thank
34:48
you for big so honest and i
34:51
didn't with other still thirty eight who has who
34:53
has think of it by the way says he a doesn't seem that
34:56
certain foods with some
34:58
in and you don't know you genuinely don't
35:00
know what lies ahead do another but
35:02
there are greasy food into the trust as issue that
35:05
what this person one says mr
35:07
right to who's interview and make everything better
35:10
and not might not be the solution at all
35:12
and and maybe it isn't even a solution
35:15
ah , i do you think
35:17
that that's changing that's think
35:19
at that if you want
35:21
her the film ethan feel more comfortable
35:24
and see more decent
35:26
role models around here for
35:29
the single life not the single life
35:31
that happens after the together life
35:33
breaks but just the single life
35:36
t , they are different i've been on i mean to us
35:38
a single person i know the world is couple
35:40
is couple shaped isn't as it is on the whole
35:43
and it can be quite quite us
35:45
in a decision thing as honest as that listener it
35:47
can sometimes be tricky and
35:51
ah either auto
35:52
the you will in your
35:54
teeth and sees about the injustice
35:57
of it all of the out as if this there's no
35:59
point
35:59
they don't know i'd i'd take ah
36:02
but no thanks to that this known idea known idea
36:04
for them and i know that sometimes
36:06
it's just such a childish things
36:08
say it's know fast but sometimes
36:10
it just isn't i'm
36:12
an atheist is not fair and
36:15
the some really decent people i
36:17
, suffer at the social
36:19
random injustices misses us
36:22
he will get some truly dreadful people who
36:24
find each other and i'm sure they make each
36:26
other very very happy or process
36:28
and and can i just say on that
36:30
site and cool say i weighed he rarely
36:33
that remember those two phases
36:35
one where nearly every cycle at
36:37
that you answers neither congratulations
36:40
on someone getting married doesn't dead
36:42
married couple years later nearly every thankful you
36:44
answered with congratulations you're having
36:47
congratulations baby and i think sometimes often
36:49
at what what people he's gonna get it
36:51
together and have children whatever
36:53
it is living the dream at don't realize
36:55
is that may be single people don't have an endless
36:58
energy to congratulate you on
37:00
we know what what is it has chosen
37:02
to do in your own life in think
37:05
sometimes that there is an expectation is remember
37:07
seen a bit worn out with congratulations
37:09
at stake or slow the time us about thirty
37:11
size that will ask that's
37:13
great but the know that's in your you
37:15
to as you keep to crack on with
37:17
it
37:21
is your uterus you crack
37:23
on about
37:23
yeah okay that's absolutely
37:25
gorgeous and assessment i hope you
37:28
just you didn't actually express his
37:30
it but i also know what you mean as
37:33
of a d three
37:35
painful if he says he that
37:37
you're trying to children is it still works or
37:39
us either all of that all of us
37:42
we'll we'll need to the before
37:44
he went he why and you raise an interesting point before
37:46
we've been our friends with
37:48
some wonderful information the fossil self
37:50
is it really think do
37:53
they want to know that is how
37:56
we're a benefit the finding out
37:59
about this
37:59
which means something to me
38:02
as alleges to say and other no such as
38:04
yeah see they have the energy why
38:06
my signing this person either if
38:08
if i'm happy enough about the state of my
38:11
life still i do i need this person
38:13
to stand up and abroad and william we
38:15
all know that deep down as nothing love the since
38:17
the didn't with a friend is having a really her receive
38:20
time the
38:21
you
38:23
could empathize with so
38:26
the it will physically try to be absolutely
38:28
honest i have a son well as well
38:31
we're being honest about the for example in rules
38:33
costing us put it easier to this is
38:35
always widespread
38:38
happy , at another another
38:41
success is this is
38:43
,
38:45
oh i know not
38:47
what you refer to james and united
38:49
nessa as i had a com this is a
38:51
cookie express emotion
38:54
o , i think i must have been assist
38:56
assist us
38:58
get a can we just briefly go back to fox's
39:01
until early briefly that listeners
39:03
but this listeners but his sit at the salt and
39:05
since he says this is about that fuck
39:08
who did you haven't listened to recent book us it won't be much
39:10
to the are we headed for a long running conversation
39:12
about we do with dead forces and this
39:14
listener was at a council a parish
39:16
and town council which they described
39:19
as the lowest rung of the council latter
39:21
the , size of his district and county
39:24
the uses of mistakes and making
39:26
a chance we get endless pools
39:28
all day every day from people thinking we've
39:30
got more power than we actually happens in the
39:33
district and or county council's do all the
39:35
really important works council spins
39:37
housing and any and all other exciting
39:40
things you'd call a council about state
39:42
of the council's very sensibly have a machine
39:44
answer phone to fill to pause that
39:46
are small office and purse council
39:49
just has me me in the afternoon
39:51
a colleague at the end of the line which makes us
39:53
something of a sounding board i've
39:55
heard no end of people's problems and the upsetting
39:58
to the hilarious the be involving
40:01
excrement before being able
40:03
to interrupt and say look i'm really sorry
40:05
you need to speak to the district or county council
40:07
about that would you like their phone number
40:10
people , get very cross when i
40:12
can't solve the leftovers for them but
40:14
i just wanted to send out an appeal to spare
40:17
a thought for the people of the other end
40:19
of the phone i find it as frustrating
40:21
as everybody else it's impossible to work out
40:24
who to ask about for want
40:26
of want better phrase that chef with local life
40:28
with local try be as helpful as i can but
40:31
it can be really difficult i am only
40:33
a receptionist
40:34
which brings me to your podcast
40:37
it was very funny hearing the other side of the coin
40:39
when the conversation about reporting dead folks
40:41
who came up and i realized that
40:43
was
40:44
query i hadn't had thankfully
40:47
, bingo card was completed this
40:49
morning when i arrived at work
40:51
at nine am switch the phone on and
40:53
the first call was what do
40:55
i do with the dead folks in front of my
40:57
house house they can say
41:00
is that sanctions to that cool
41:02
a stroke listeners to service and up and
41:04
let people who answer so do you know any ring the band
41:06
can he get some of
41:08
these calls are being modest signal restless
41:11
and people are probably still horrible
41:13
on they even though they know their calls a big
41:15
bonuses and checked in with
41:17
that i mean i have i have
41:19
many have i
41:21
many
41:23
but i would never
41:25
ever ever be horrible said he put in those
41:27
circumstances why witches why
41:30
on earth would you
41:31
the people i guess , sure
41:33
they are and sometimes yeah
41:36
i think think think it's hard
41:38
to i get up i get upset with people
41:40
not suit the you know i get upset and are not
41:42
so i get a kind of lizards and
41:45
i have come quite place to crying
41:47
as a as office of
41:49
the days cool of the the days
41:51
i sig yes sometimes because
41:53
he's been on hold oh
41:56
is that to say your name will spell something
41:58
in a forty five
41:59
kinds of we get sweeter human being
42:02
and they then also was quite
42:05
how not to do the guess
42:07
in that first initial kind of this is why i'm
42:09
here but i t sale for them i'd
42:11
love to sit in one of those seminars where
42:13
they play back some of the asked and the yes
42:16
that is a up the stuff that has been monitored
42:19
and recorded on very much site to
42:21
hear that and i'm sure that all of us must
42:23
have a phone call enough where we will be a little
42:25
bit sad for ourselves
42:28
that we had not been as nice as is
42:30
humanly possible sites you know what you made
42:32
me really did lose my temper losing of i'm
42:35
in two thousand and four
42:38
and it wasn't prissy
42:39
okay can
42:41
i feel that electronic tag it cg
42:44
so , male menopause
42:46
a this one comes from edwards
42:49
a who is sixty four years old and we did
42:51
asked didn't we wanted to him or
42:53
it is about what men go through
42:55
to because we fortunately welcoming
42:57
then since twenty seventeen dish
43:01
hyphen j i know if your podcast listen
43:03
to everyone i was interested in your comments regarding
43:05
the lack of mad experiences of erectile
43:08
dysfunction and the male menopause so i thought
43:10
so would share my experience of aging from
43:12
aging male point of view point of it hard
43:14
to come to terms with the whole process
43:16
on sometimes wonder what was the purpose
43:18
of my life anymore no longer a laugh
43:20
at and they don't get needed as a father in
43:22
the way i was for my daughter was small and
43:25
no longer valued professionally in
43:27
my fifties i find myself working in an
43:29
office with a number of much younger male engineers
43:32
all out to prove a point i used to say
43:34
on monday mornings in the office was a bit like autumn
43:36
watch you know the usual rutting stag
43:38
stuff in this scenario i felt like
43:41
the old displace stack i've
43:43
often had women say they feel invisible
43:45
when they age and go through the menopause but
43:47
this was how i felt at that time to
43:50
sudden i suddenly i was classified as an
43:52
idiot nothing i settled did was
43:54
have any value my experience and opinions
43:56
counted for nothing during this period
43:59
my confidence
43:59
thou and it also coincided with my
44:02
prostrate enlarging and my
44:04
wife will say getting three the men oppose
44:06
in my experience aging from the now points
44:08
of view is a challenge just trying
44:10
to find a road and nice i'm
44:13
sixty four now i have two grandsons
44:15
i'm retired and happy in my role as
44:17
pop and p s at
44:19
to all of this is after leaving the unhappy office
44:21
with the young engineers i worked on the bbc panorama
44:24
program which uncovered the volkswagen
44:26
diesel exhaust gas emissions
44:28
scandal and appeared with which is
44:31
thought to test them it
44:36
read that and i suppose that's a bit
44:38
sad isn't it been in a he just
44:41
devices that the opposite sex
44:43
is going through something akin to what you're going
44:45
three teeth not with great
44:47
that is good to hear
44:49
i'd like to see more of those stories
44:52
ready because in that
44:54
kind is shared experience
44:56
shared experience
44:56
find fifteen
44:58
they find it a bit more strikes on
45:00
both sides wouldn't leave quite
45:02
you rare just to get that male voice
45:05
and to own up to your what
45:07
, perceive to be your increasing
45:09
irrelevance i think it's you
45:11
don't hear enough of that because we're used to manage
45:14
that age still strutting their stuff
45:17
and telling us how fabulous as and how
45:19
yeah how wonderful the horizon know
45:21
that town that of course have that picket
45:23
fence the brakes brakes the
45:25
way that subject as subject
45:29
, say and chain hearing you say this week
45:31
how bold as to use the word tampon and
45:33
a podcast reminded me of a recent misheard
45:35
lyrics are being sent press to hear
45:37
a song currently getting lots of radio to airplay
45:40
and having the lower your short seized
45:42
just like a tampon how modern
45:44
unfold and forty confidence as cigarettes
45:46
i thought good on radio t for playing it's
45:48
i thought such clever wordplay a
45:50
tampon doesn't seem to have a short fuse
45:53
i said as much my two teenage boys
45:56
the lyric is just like a time bomb
45:58
them explained to sixty
45:59
the around the house by able max navy
46:02
or the problem listen to the course and please
46:04
tell me it's not just me that this
46:06
is t fabulous lady some cass
46:08
at say our i know exactly
46:10
the song you mean and it's
46:12
wishful thinking to believe cast
46:15
and that it's flu shots he's just like a tampon
46:17
succeed while i turned on the tv
46:19
yesterday find
46:22
us expecting to what some tennis
46:24
to find sue barker billie jean king
46:26
and tracy us and all discussing periods
46:29
and , and whites
46:32
when blood the cinema our is yes
46:34
and i just thought we've come a long way
46:36
we've really radio a to come a long way
46:38
and it was a fascinating reports and i
46:40
didn't know you know why wimbledon hasn't
46:43
all lawyers uniform policy
46:46
so it's because as they didn't
46:48
want sweat stains
46:50
to sell off on college
46:52
the boots were
46:54
isn't that just ridiculous in itself
46:57
either , got you've got sports
46:59
men and women clearly take something
47:01
that will make you sweat but you shouldn't
47:03
see slant slant
47:05
fashioned dissonance is ridiculous ah
47:08
ridiculous or like this have
47:10
another of i'd love to thought the mr bonuses
47:12
won't get missiles anonymous of in egypt basically
47:15
the people to know the listen to this toss and we
47:17
both get us so that's of save us we'd
47:19
both been on was to of if we
47:21
of could write
47:23
this is from somebody says on have to stop
47:25
listening or one i'm walking the dog because i love
47:28
love my gut says i wouldn't be ashamed about
47:30
that that could merciless this week
47:32
here in your guest leon moriarty the russia
47:34
being described as a suburban housewife
47:37
then not just a suburban
47:39
house west of the house with me have
47:42
recently had mental health issues and will
47:44
and i was referred to an nhs listening and counseling
47:46
service though his initial conversation
47:48
by phone to assess conversation help with needed
47:51
even in my current muddled stays
47:54
i could appreciate the reasons asking if i was
47:56
taking care of personal hygiene
47:58
and dressing that is
48:00
really put has been asked if i was managing
48:02
to keep up with the cooking housework
48:05
and shopping despite ,
48:07
knowing or had a partner living at home
48:10
home my poverty caring and capable
48:12
husband wouldn't be inconvenienced
48:15
during my illness or
48:17
would a man with a wife has been asked the same
48:19
question now i just don't
48:21
sit i saw i don't know whether
48:23
of a man would have been asked the same the
48:27
do you think it's odd that this woman was
48:29
asked if she was able to
48:31
manage with the housework cooking
48:34
i think is it's not a question
48:36
that soft to be that anybody
48:39
who presents at with
48:41
a with a mouth mental illness
48:44
then it's entirety in the just
48:46
absurd to be asked about housework
48:48
that
48:49
i would hate that that's not the and
48:51
really has that's not the case anymore and
48:55
companies companies somehow just
48:58
dreadful if it is really really dreadful
49:00
yeah it is simply to be intolerable
49:03
me up and i hope you're feeling better society
49:07
and i just wanted to read to read of
49:09
an email we probably would start wrapping up
49:11
see think yeah right
49:13
if it
49:17
, asleep yet yet
49:19
know you can read but that's
49:21
just because of the only caught for me to call upon
49:24
hurting call i got
49:26
the law since i've got some nice move yeah exactly
49:28
the same can can i just [unk] jeffery a
49:30
tiny bit of an email from dynamic because
49:32
it was just say peaceful it's a
49:34
apropos of nothing slit their
49:37
into a little bit of a radio four type nature uses
49:39
a but yet here we go a
49:41
and it's titled losing eight one hundred
49:44
year old year and
49:46
name he just wants you to tell us about
49:48
wants you who has recently
49:50
tonight her name was duty but
49:52
she was a hundred years old and awesome
49:54
in every sense of the words how funny
49:57
that you got onto talking about the mixed blessing
49:59
of living one hundred rice at the same
50:01
time as nanny was listening
50:03
another speak eco instance she
50:06
would have completely agreed with you any a few
50:08
days before she fell ill she was telling
50:10
me how lonely and sad it could fail knowing
50:12
that had contemporaries were almost
50:14
all dead and name is facing
50:16
just written a really thoughtful and
50:18
lovely use a t about her
50:20
grandmother and i'll just read little
50:22
bit sick as the words just peaceful she was
50:25
with each shop creative playful
50:27
well informed stylish graceful
50:30
mischievous irreverent bowls
50:32
and brave and constantly curious
50:35
nothing and womb and thoughtful
50:37
no matter what circumstances you met
50:39
her under you would have loved her she was
50:41
an irresistible pass and when she wanted
50:44
to be she could also be sharp and
50:46
merciless when the mood took her she
50:48
had a way of doing things and you could never
50:50
predict whether she would completely embrace
50:52
a new approach or witheringly dismiss
50:55
it as have had suffered a son and
50:57
successor i think there are some very
50:59
wonderful adjectives attached to that lasers
51:01
and out on us how to stay at
51:04
she was magnificent says there may i loved
51:06
her as she was there from the day i was born saying
51:08
they a pattern of womanhood that didn't
51:10
center around the pleasing of others that
51:13
saved me what fearlessness looked like an
51:15
ordinary day to day life and showed
51:17
me that conformity could be treated
51:19
as a benefit that
51:22
a lot about this is what a lovely way
51:24
to end can i say thank you for
51:26
that we i see genuinely love hearing
51:29
at your which assume your memories of female
51:31
rest is in particular can be incredibly thompson
51:34
i think it's than one of the second one of the highlights
51:36
of doing fort smith been hearing about those
51:38
special people in people's lives you just made out of your
51:40
life better and
51:43
, think i think with both settle for should be light up
51:45
when we all that know when have club have helped
51:48
you know a guess know that
51:50
with know would be the else that face an isis
51:52
love it isis love it when people explains
51:55
a in as as said pashtuns as the savior
51:57
that they can to wait he respects and
51:59
low
51:59
is often they're so different so
52:02
what we might have all been brought
52:04
up to sink a is the best
52:06
kind of play for a woman so i really
52:08
love
52:08
stuff like that if well
52:11
i'm before i head off in my parents
52:13
top to look for somebody with a size goes
52:15
on regent street icicles
52:17
, i do see anybody i will be calling in
52:19
the authors and we've
52:21
got ah hum knitted of
52:23
the lesson from on
52:26
listener
52:27
there's a lipo
52:29
oh gosh he said he
52:31
insists she
52:38
what is it a concert
52:40
oh and pay
52:43
for it
52:43
this
52:47
is
52:47
you
52:50
need to consult a tough
52:52
he didn't see the attack move that
52:55
brilliant had either thing
53:00
is it in this is jane gov if it
53:02
feels another issue
53:05
that really is
53:06
here for
53:09
me
53:10
oh now what are you wearing when
53:12
, didn't have a southwest loosening
53:15
of are wearing on the theory very
53:17
sensible sensible white
53:20
comedy which is approximately
53:23
talk for today and some practises and your
53:25
and front of your jumpsuits
53:27
zealously says absolutely brilliant on
53:30
the solicitude gabi some woman's as a
53:32
still very much feature of my home
53:34
so dorothy thanks for amazon pass this
53:36
on to see when she
53:39
extends an invitation as i'm sure she will very soon
53:41
to the home for a lavish meal
53:43
i will go over with an issue of jets
53:46
very kind my gonna have snazzy
53:48
way from that is especially
53:51
over the summer nancy like and have to spend some
53:53
time apart that while we go
53:55
on that call yes and cease
53:57
to sneak out come with knows so leave
54:00
her with a small message for with my
54:02
identity say and the inevitable he
54:04
but comfort to the ,
54:07
side this side end is ah
54:09
little as some a rung were not back
54:11
and tell rice at the end of august and
54:14
i would like say and enormously heartfelt
54:16
and sincere thank you to all of our listeners
54:19
at your emails just every
54:21
week where me as an email inbox sense of by
54:23
the wonderful on a it's a joy to behold
54:26
all the stuff that you talk about is just wonderful
54:28
with devices if is still listening to us or even
54:31
if he's just left us unsubscribe and you haven't
54:33
listened to the say to yes
54:35
up to a finite
54:37
the octopus
54:38
where enjoy and yes
54:40
i'd like to echo overseas sentiment side
54:42
but i just haven't got time to aca them because of that
54:44
episode milk so it's take
54:47
care of everybody she said which is
54:49
where the rules where he should never say everybody should
54:51
you because we're to talk just speaking to ones
54:53
who into one person or as when we started
54:55
fortunately we were talking to seventeen well now
54:57
to be to a few more ah and
54:59
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55:01
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55:04
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