As we creep closer to the 2024 season actually starting, our pre-season podcasting begins with a trip to the RFL to chat with match officials Marcus Griffiths and Liam Moore to see how their preparations are going, before we talk about Wales' historic trip to the USA with co-captain Jodie Boyd-Ward. An entertaining trio of guests to start the new year. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices