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Illinois. You

1:01

seem like a nice guy. Why'd they put you in here?

1:04

Because I wore a pink shirt. I

1:06

understand. People thought I was crazy for the way

1:08

I dressed. What'd you wear? One white

1:10

glove covered with rhinestones. Four-finger

1:16

discount, dude! Welcome

1:27

to Four-Finger Discount, where this week we're here

1:29

to review an episode that

1:31

no longer exists. Let's

1:37

start grabbing Dad. I'm Dando. And I am the big

1:39

white guy who thinks he's the little black guy. No,

1:42

just call me Guy. You

1:44

do like your soul and everything, don't you? I do indeed.

1:47

What jazz instrument would you play if you were a jazz musician? Because

1:50

you're a very Miles Davis-esque fan, aren't you? I

1:53

am. So I like to think I would be a trumpet guy. Although

1:55

a sax guy would not be bad either. Do

1:58

you pee your pants? That's the question. I

2:02

was peeing my pants before it was cool. Yeah, yeah. It

2:04

worked for you all. And we'll continue to do that after

2:06

it stops. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What

2:09

was the point where you realised, I don't

2:11

care if I'm not cool anymore? I'm way, way

2:13

past that now. But there is a

2:15

point, I think maybe in your mid to late 20s where

2:17

you go, I'm no longer, you go out to

2:20

a nightclub. I think it's the first time you go to a nightclub and

2:22

you realise, ah, these people are

2:24

like 10 years younger than me. I'm the

2:26

old guy to them now. That's where you start going,

2:28

I give a shit. Yeah, it took a little while

2:30

beyond the 20s. It was probably my 30s. Yeah.

2:34

I think when I became a dad, for me, I

2:36

was like, ah, I'm a dad now. It's okay to

2:38

be uncool when you're a dad, right? I

2:40

imagine so, yeah. So I don't have kids, so

2:42

I'm constantly

2:45

searching for validation from the young generation.

2:48

Have I got the Riz kids? I've got the Riz, right? This

2:53

and the future is now old man. No, no. I'll

2:57

probably be a trumpet player, maybe

3:00

a saxophonist. The lovely

3:02

Louise's younger son, musical prodigy Felix,

3:05

recently got his own saxophone over the weekend.

3:08

He was very happy with it. It's got, you know,

3:10

inscriptions on it and up here, hearing

3:12

his infernal tutelings on it, I was like,

3:14

oh man. I mean, I wish I was more musical.

3:17

I mean, I clearly have a lovely singing voice as

3:19

listeners of the podcast will know. That

3:23

was a joke, Phis. These

3:26

tuners, plenty of them. But

3:31

no, I think I like the

3:33

idea of a trumpet. It just seems like a small,

3:35

compact instrument, you know, you're having

3:38

a lugger hole. Imagine being a

3:40

tuba player. Nicola's a saxophonist. Is

3:42

that a saxophonist? Saxophonist? Saxophonist, yeah. That's right, I

3:44

remember you saying that. She's great at it, yeah.

3:46

She plays a Lion King. Because the first thing

3:48

she's learnt was to play the Lion King song

3:51

on the saxophone. Yeah, she's great at it. Yeah,

3:53

it's awesome. You'll get the occasional Hakuna Matata. Yeah.

3:56

Wow. She's very musical, Nicola. Very, very talented,

3:58

my wife. As is your lovely little wife. Where is

4:00

your partner? Well her great talent was finding

4:03

a good boyfriend. Yeah. Now

4:05

you know who was very talented and still is,

4:07

is the Al Jean, the Simpsons showrunner. I thought

4:09

you were about to say Michael Jackson. Like is

4:12

there something you know that we've done? And

4:15

Mike Rees who took over from the show at the

4:17

beginning of season 3. This was their first episode that

4:19

went to air. Fans

4:22

of the Simpsons say that the Golden Era started

4:24

with this episode, with season 3. However

4:27

unfortunately after the, the fighting Neverland, the

4:29

documentary that came out a few years ago.

4:31

I think that's what it called. Leaving Neverland. Maybe, maybe.

4:34

Leaving Neverland. The movie is fighting that. That's

4:37

right. Leaving Neverland came out and all the

4:39

allegations that Michael Jackson with, yeah, we've all,

4:41

we all know the details. We've been circulating

4:43

for a fair, a fair while before that

4:45

documentary came out and before these two young

4:47

men in particular went on the record.

4:50

Yeah, there's a reason they called him Wacko Jacko, right? And

4:53

then Al Jean, I'm sure Mike Rees as

4:55

well, but Al Jean's the one that went on the record as

4:57

saying we took this out of

4:59

circulation this episode, no longer available on

5:01

streaming or on, um, freedom of air, what

5:03

do you call it, ass indication. Because

5:06

we or he believes that Michael Jackson used this episode

5:08

to groom kids. And I had never seen this until

5:10

you sent it to me in preparation for this episode.

5:12

I never thought about it that way. I've always seen

5:14

it as a bit of a tragedy that this episode's

5:16

been tacking off the air because of a, it felt

5:18

like a snap judgment of this documentary's

5:20

coming out. We don't want to be affiliated with it.

5:22

Let's pull the episode. We don't want the Simpsons to

5:25

be thrown in with like Michael Jackson was wanting the

5:27

Simpsons. Let's pull it away from circulation.

5:29

He has gone on the record. It was with

5:31

the Daily Beast, the interview about Al Jean where

5:33

he says, I have no proof. It's just my

5:35

gut feeling that he would have used this to

5:37

groom kids. I'm not saying

5:39

he's right or wrong. It's still a shame that

5:41

we've lost the episode, but I can understand now

5:43

why it no longer exists because the guy who

5:45

created it feels dirty. Oh yeah, it feels, yeah,

5:47

complicit. And it's a shame that that happened. I

5:50

was surprised as anyone to read that piece

5:53

by all that interview with Al Jean. I hadn't

5:55

really heard about it until ... I'll chuck the

5:57

link for the interview in the description of this because it's not all ...

6:00

about that but they use that as the headline

6:02

let's hook you in with this that's right I'm

6:07

not a huge fan but yeah the

6:10

gist of that article is about season three and

6:12

about the sort of the birth of the Golden

6:14

Age of the Simpsons yeah but this is certainly

6:16

comes up and our genes not the

6:18

only guy to talk about it I mean James L Brooks

6:20

has also gone on the record and saying look

6:23

I'm not for book burning I'm not for censorship

6:25

but think of it is this is our book

6:27

I created and yeah and we're entitled to take

6:29

a chapter out of it if we choose

6:32

to do so clearly chose to

6:34

do so now there's still a means to get

6:36

access to the episode I'm holding

6:38

up here as you'll see if you're watching this show right

6:40

now hold up to the camera the season 3 box set

6:42

and it was so lovely to pull out the box set

6:44

it felt like and I know all the allegations are going

6:47

around I understand why the episode off but it was so

6:49

nice putting this episode on I think I've watched it for

6:51

10 15 years it was

6:53

like seeing an old friend as weird as that may

6:55

sound because it's got the whole MJ sort of taint

6:57

to it now but I just went

6:59

oh it's like this episode it's like it's like rediscovering

7:01

it again I hadn't watched it for so long and

7:04

it's just a shame that like for example

7:06

Ali it now pretty sad watching the Simpsons

7:08

a bit more often younger generations now won't

7:11

really know the episode exists unless their parents say this

7:13

one exists too then it might be incumbent on parents

7:15

to say oh well they may say well why can't

7:17

I see it on Disney Plus or why can't I

7:19

see it in by any other means and then you've

7:21

got a but then you've got all the other you

7:23

know they put a little stinger at the start of

7:26

Aladdin that things like that saying that doesn't reflect us

7:28

but I guess there's nothing in the episode that reflects

7:31

poorly is how the episode they it

7:33

he L. Jane and James Brooks feel

7:35

it might be news that's why

7:37

they've taken it down so it's a different yeah that's right

7:39

I mean there's no sort of retrograde

7:42

racism or tobacco depictions seeing a

7:45

lot of a lot of tobacco

7:47

depictions in front of recent episodes

7:49

of certain things I

7:52

don't have the the box it that you

7:54

do I do obtain my copy of stark

7:56

raving dead by well let's say it rhymes

7:58

with piracy guy I can't

8:00

remember who it was but I posted about it on

8:02

our Twitter at four finger pod if you want to

8:04

follow us on Twitter. Can't follow us on Facebook anymore.

8:07

This is

8:09

still happening. At four finger discount on Instagram

8:12

as well and we're gonna be getting the

8:14

TikTok happening at four finger discount. That's alright.

8:16

We're Tikking and we're talking. 50-something year old

8:18

man on TikTok. What

8:20

the kids are tuning out, Gene, we're not be watching.

8:23

What was I, he put the full episode on Twitter.

8:25

Because Twitter does this is free for all now. There's

8:27

no copyright, there's nothing. So you can watch it on

8:29

Twitter. If you just search for it, it's like grabbing

8:31

your dad. A lot of things are coming up on

8:34

Twitter. You'll see this post

8:36

saying, oh bugger, here's

8:38

the full movie of such and such that just came

8:40

out. So you know it'll be on Pirate Bay, I

8:42

wonder. And then that just will upload to Twitter. We'll

8:45

see you around forever. That's crazy. Here's the whole movie

8:47

of The Flash. I'm like, I've got no desire to

8:49

watch this but what? It's there?

8:51

Yeah. Daddy Elon, you're not

8:53

taking it down? What's going on? Pretty much

8:55

speech baby. That's true. Pretty piracy. But

8:59

you start to have me, do you think it's sad that

9:01

it's been removed for circulation? It's sad but it's understandable I

9:04

think. It's probably the best way to put it, right? Going

9:06

back to what Mr. Brooks said, yeah look, they wrote the

9:08

book, they're entitled to take a chapter out of it. I

9:12

think for a show

9:15

that is ostensibly a family show, it may

9:20

raise too many awkward

9:22

questions. And I understand where Algene is coming from

9:25

as well in that feeling and complicity that they

9:27

may have had something to do with... The

9:30

grooming of children? Yeah, the grooming of children. And you don't

9:32

want your name attached to that. I mean you just... It

9:35

would give you the ick. But I

9:37

had never heard anybody throw that out

9:40

there until he pitched that. So

9:42

if he'd never said that, would you

9:44

have ever assumed that? Would you have ever gone,

9:46

you know what? He might have used this to groom children.

9:48

Was that mentioned in the doco? I don't think it was,

9:50

was it? I don't think so. No, I mean... I

9:53

can recall anyway. No, no, I mean

9:55

I remember watching the Neverland documentary when

9:57

it came out. I wrote a piece about it. it

10:00

for the music magazine when I was doing my column

10:02

to bat. Didn't some of it get debunked? I was

10:04

saying no, they met at a certain place and that

10:06

place wasn't built by the time in which they said

10:08

it was going to be there or something. I think

10:10

you had a lot of amateur sleuths going, well

10:13

this doesn't add up and this doesn't scan. There's

10:16

no wind on the moon. It really felt like

10:18

grasping at straws in a lot of ways. I'm

10:22

kind of inclined to take certain

10:24

allegations and certain accusations with

10:27

a bit of a grain of salt until

10:29

I get as much evidence

10:31

as possible. Watching the evidence

10:33

of these two, I'm about to say young men, I

10:35

mean they're still relatively young I guess when they were

10:37

being interviewed for this doc art. I'm

10:40

100% buying this. You

10:42

weren't there so you can't... Yeah,

10:44

but these particular recollections

10:47

and the way they express

10:51

themselves, what they recollected, how

10:53

they express themselves. This

10:56

feels very precise, very authentic, very lived in.

11:00

So this interview where he said about

11:02

the bearing of children was 2019. I

11:05

don't think he said it beforehand. Because when did the

11:07

doco come out? Finding Neverland or leaving Neverland, sorry. I

11:10

want to say maybe 2017, 2018? Leaving

11:14

Neverland, so it was the same year, 25 years ago.

11:16

I thought it was a lot longer than that. Time

11:19

keeps on slipping into the future man. But there's

11:21

another point in the interview though where the interviewer

11:24

asked about how Michael Jackson, because he wrote the

11:26

Happy Birthday Lisa song. Great, so I

11:28

love the song, one of my favourite Simpsons songs. It's a shame

11:30

it won't get used anymore or

11:32

heard anymore. But he brings up the,

11:34

do you think they'll slip into the first kiss from

11:36

a boy? I'm thinking, you're really trying to find something

11:38

here. That's a great big straw. And

11:41

I think Al Jean even said maybe. I was like, no,

11:43

no, no. That's just,

11:46

it felt like a year 10 student trying

11:48

to over analyze a film for

11:50

an essay. He wrote a,

11:52

it fits the song. He was trying to hide a

11:54

hidden agenda about loving boys in this song. It was

11:56

just, it was wack. It runs

11:58

with joy. It runs with joy. And then, girls

12:01

think about their first kiss from a

12:03

boy. In what, not anymore, but

12:05

in 1992, whatever,

12:07

and just when they said, yeah. Ever since

12:09

Katy Perry, it's all about kissing girls. What's going

12:11

on? I don't think

12:13

Michael Jackson spent hours and hours coming up with the lyrics to

12:15

Happy Birthday, Lisa. I'm pretty sure this was sort of dashed up

12:17

on the back of a napkin. It felt like it, didn't it?

12:20

It really did. But that was a charm to it, because that's

12:22

what was supposed to have been, yeah. I guess I'm up or

12:24

not writing it, but anyway, yeah. But

12:26

overall, though, I really enjoyed going back

12:28

and revisiting this episode. There's a lot that

12:31

goes into the behind the scenes

12:33

of it. It's really, really interesting. So Mac

12:35

Groening says that he was working back late

12:37

at the office one night, which I'm not

12:39

sure I believe that. Mac Groening being the only one back

12:41

at the office working away. But anyway, so he says. And

12:44

the phone rings, and it's Michael Jackson saying,

12:46

I'd love to be a guest on the show. First of all,

12:48

I'm not sure Michael Jackson would just call up. But

12:51

he says that's what happened. It makes for a good

12:53

story. And that he wanted to be

12:55

a guest, and it took him about a minute before he

12:57

actually believed him, which is what they did in the show

13:00

with Bart refusing to believe Leon until after about a minute

13:02

or so. Absolutely. But yeah, I kind

13:04

of voice where you're calling up. In

13:07

the middle of the night, I can't be speak to

13:09

Mac Groening. I'm a big fan

13:11

of The Simpsons. Yeah, I'm not

13:13

sure I buy that, but that's the story they're

13:15

going with anyway. Have you watched that documentary about

13:17

the making of We Are The World? It's on

13:19

Netflix at the moment. I've seen clips of it.

13:22

There was like three weeks of negotiations and phone

13:24

calls and contracts and all

13:26

this kind of stuff to actually get that going

13:28

on. I doubt very much that Michael Jackson, as

13:30

you said, is calling up at the middle

13:32

of the night, keeping the numbers

13:34

of The Simpsons, HQ, maybe

13:37

the Raiders room. My

13:41

apologies to anyone who's a big MJ fan, me

13:43

doing this god awful impersonation. Later on, I'll do

13:45

Prince. But

13:48

yeah, it strikes me as very

13:51

print the legend that Mac Groening

13:53

would say. First of all, I

13:55

was working late in the office one night.

13:57

No, not happening. Secondly, speak to the

13:59

Prince. Ring ring, he's a mako

14:01

jacksman. He's like, no, it's not happening. But

14:04

let's cut out all the... He did ask him who his last four

14:07

dates of the Grammys were. There

14:10

goes the trivia question. Might want to write as well. Okay,

14:12

we've got mutually assured distraction. But apparently he

14:14

did say to Matt that, or one of

14:17

the workers, that he wants to give Bart

14:19

a number one single, so he wrote Do

14:21

The Bartman. Really? Yeah, Mako

14:23

Jackson wrote Do The Bartman. I didn't know that. Really? I

14:26

did not know that. Yeah, he did. He

14:28

is the writer of Everybody If You Can Do

14:30

The Bartman. That was Mako Jackson. Mako Jackson.

14:35

I've been on that bit from South Park now. I've been

14:37

on that bit from... I know we

14:39

touched on children. It's Mako Jackson. It's Mako Jackson.

14:41

It's Mako Jackson. If you enjoy South Park, check

14:43

out our Going Down to South Park podcast. If

14:45

they were all you good at podcast platforms. But

14:48

apparently his conditions were he couldn't sing.

14:52

He could do the spoken dialogue, but for some legal reason he couldn't

14:54

do the singing. But they said

14:56

when they did the first run through, he did sing the

14:58

songs and did everything. And there's

15:00

a rumor going around that he

15:03

recorded his own version of Happy Birthday Lisa

15:05

and all the other songs like Ben when

15:08

he sings Holman. And at the

15:10

last minute they were replaced with the MJ1s.

15:13

So we'll never know because they had Kip Lemon as the

15:15

impersonator. But apparently the sound guy has

15:17

said, no, no, that never happened. I was like, go

15:20

with that, man. Why

15:23

ruin that dream? Everybody just... let's

15:25

get our story straight. Yeah, don't

15:27

ruin this legend. If the legend

15:30

was that Mako Jackson wasn't allowed to, then at

15:32

the last minute he slipped it in at the

15:35

last second. That'd make him cool. Are we allowed

15:37

to say that he was talented as a musician?

15:40

Oh, yeah. It's weird. Has it

15:42

been long enough now where we can sort of talk about him as a talent? Yeah,

15:46

this is something we were talking about the other

15:48

day, wasn't it? Because we started talking about various

15:50

cancelled individuals. And how,

15:53

sadly, there are a lot out there who were

15:55

very, very good at what they did. This is

15:57

probably why they were able to

15:59

reach... positions of

16:02

influence or power where either they were

16:04

able to commit misdeeds or their misdeeds

16:06

could be swept under the rug. Yeah,

16:08

I mean a lot of

16:10

people who are now regarded as monsters being

16:12

punished for their crimes were

16:14

actually pretty good at what they did. Or, man, it's a

16:16

tough situation. We were

16:19

talking about the people who are associated with them.

16:21

So for example people saying we can't watch that

16:23

movie anymore. But what about all the people that

16:25

were working on that film who put their blood,

16:27

sweat and tears into their role or behind the

16:29

camera or whatever it was of writing the movie,

16:31

now all their hard work is forgotten about because

16:33

of one individual. It's a weird thing to... It

16:36

really is. Yeah, I'm not a

16:38

fan of cancellation for that reason. I

16:41

don't hire them going forward, but let's not

16:43

cancel everything that they were in previously because

16:45

that means everyone else who worked on that

16:47

project as well is all kind of devotionalized.

16:49

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, have we... I

16:52

think someone with the magnitude of

16:55

talent and influence and I guess reach that Michael

16:57

Jackson had is never going to be wholly forgotten

17:00

and there's always going to be an asterisk

17:02

next to their name. It's like Thriller,

17:05

biggest album of the 1980s. Michael

17:07

Jackson, incredible run

17:09

of Grammy wins and all this kind of business.

17:13

Also accused of Malaushtenkurj. I did

17:15

love the story of they did

17:17

the run-through at Michael Jackson's manager's

17:19

house. And so

17:21

they said the first time they ran through us was Michael

17:23

Jackson. The second time they were there to record or whatever

17:25

on the second run-through and I was going to walk in,

17:27

keep learning, sing the song and they didn't tell the things

17:30

that happened. They were sort of going, this is where you

17:32

sing and Michael Jackson was sitting there silently and just keep

17:34

learning and just walk into the room. I

17:36

started singing the song and they were like,

17:38

this is weird. What's going on here? I would

17:40

appreciate the heads up on this one, Mike. Apparently

17:42

Dan Kessel and that was 20 minutes late to

17:44

it as well. Oh boy. Which doesn't

17:46

help. No. But

17:50

yeah, I would have loved if he, if he's even

17:53

if his versions were available somewhere, I'd love

17:55

to hear him singing the Lisa in the

17:57

happy song. You

17:59

know, it is. It is very nice. I

18:01

think when you go to see you've got a sister sister You

18:04

want them to be happy? I do having said this

18:09

No, no my beloved sister Margot who probably does

18:11

not listen this podcast I missed

18:13

your birthday Margot you missed it I did it

18:15

was Saturday and I still haven't gotten touch. I'm

18:17

sorry my mum Are you serious you you know

18:19

you realize you've forgotten you so you're just scared

18:21

to get in touch now What do you do

18:23

is it a case of you trying to think

18:25

of I'm relevant. It's like memento. I'm remembering every

18:28

20 minutes That's like call

18:30

Margot and I'm like, but I've got

18:32

other stuff to do. I gotta record this podcast I've

18:34

got other stuff to do. I know soon as

18:36

we're done here. I'll be calling Margot. She's

18:38

just happy birthday Margot Kitchen

18:42

table the party had on My

18:49

mum came by the other day and said now will

18:51

you sick on the weekend? I said no no lose

18:53

head covered, but no I'm alright because you miss Margot's

18:55

birthday. You didn't call Margot To

18:59

my to Margaret Mary as well mum was probably

19:01

like did you hear from him? What did I

19:03

get you? Yeah, well do you still get presents? Really

19:10

no no we're just more like give a call send

19:12

a card Milestone birthdays

19:15

cards are insulting to me. I'm not

19:17

a fan of greeting cards and birthday cards Oh, you

19:19

know little kid so be it, but

19:21

I know just waste of money You

19:24

can just write that message You

19:27

kick the cards not all no Just

19:30

Nick Nicklaus it my wife for you

19:32

viewers and listeners huge fan of the card if I don't

19:34

get her a card She's really really sad. I've

19:37

just never cared. I just I just feel

19:39

I've spent an extra five bucks on my present,

19:41

please I don't want a card. I wholly understand

19:43

where you're coming from. I mean, I'm not necessarily

19:46

Someone who's like oh you forgot my birthday. Oh, where's

19:49

my card? Oh, where's my friend this mate

19:51

and this will lead into something. I want to talk about in just

19:53

a sec, but Yeah, I

19:55

do feel bad that I haven't contacted her at the very least.

19:57

I mean, I think we've we've all reached the

19:59

stage Because I mean I'm the youngest and I'm in my

20:01

50s. As long as you feel bad, that's all that matters.

20:03

That is all that matters. Now, here's what I wanted to

20:06

talk about with this episode. One

20:08

thing that I didn't really like, I

20:11

don't like people putting pressure on someone to celebrate

20:13

their birthday. I thought the same as well. I

20:16

get that Lisa has been forgotten time

20:19

and time again by Bart, but

20:21

it just felt a bit much of going, well I'm

20:23

discerning you now, you no longer my brother. It felt

20:25

a bit over, I get that she's 8, I've got

20:27

my, I wrote my notes. I understand she's overdramatic, she's

20:29

8 years old, so you can understand an 8 year

20:31

old would feel this way. If an 8 year old

20:33

had their birthday forgotten, you can imagine they would respond

20:35

this way, but it did feel like you're pushing,

20:38

it's like I never got my sister a present when I was 10.

20:41

My parents got a present for my sister. I helped pick it

20:43

out or whatever, but expecting Bart to get her a present, but

20:45

I guess she only wanted one, even if it was just

20:47

made, but she just didn't really want, he didn't want to give

20:49

her a present. I

20:51

realise that it has to happen for the events

20:53

of the story to unravel as they

20:56

do, unfold as they do. They

20:58

had nothing to do, nothing for it to

21:00

do. That's right. Yeah, that's right. So,

21:02

for her to be constantly pushing and

21:05

almost committing this emotional blackmail,

21:07

why don't you just shut up? You've got a lot

21:09

of shit going on. Your Michael Jackson coming to town.

21:13

But did Marge and Homer forget as well? I don't think

21:15

they did. We never see them give her a present. I'm

21:18

trying to remember the timeline of this episode, or

21:20

when is her actual birthday? It's when, it's not

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when they, it's when Leon shows up? I

21:25

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23:12

from the episode? I think they

23:14

were more Homer-related than anything else. I've

23:16

only written one here, because I was just in thrall with the

23:18

episode, but I just love that... That's

23:21

one of my favorite gifs of all time. I

23:24

did enjoy Homer watching Funny Stone videos.

23:28

Dog on fire! Cracky up at Dog on fire!

23:30

Look at him! It's like,

23:32

the dog on fire! But that

23:34

was once upon a time when Funny Stone videos

23:36

was a thing. Don't I know

23:38

it? Yeah, it's still... I can't

23:40

imagine, because now it's just power-ups on the internet.

23:43

But it used to be, in Australia, you'd sit

23:45

down, 7.30 on a Tuesday, and you'd watch Australia's

23:47

Funny Stone videos. And you'd be told,

23:50

Australia, Australia, this is you. This is

23:52

you, that's right, yeah. And

23:54

he'd be so chuffed, it's like your favorite one. It's like

23:56

they won a car at the end of the year. It's

23:58

like, hey, kid fell down the funny... you

24:00

win a car! We're bringing

24:03

back this season's champions. Remember, can you

24:06

two fell down stairs? Bad guy on

24:08

water slide! So

24:12

I like that very much. I loved

24:15

Homer at the end. Michael

24:19

Jackson aka Leon made his impassioned speech

24:21

about, you know, who can see

24:23

who's crazy or not. Not me! I got this! He's

24:26

got his official letter of passion. But he's

24:28

not crazy. I did love to be Damp as well. The

24:34

revelation of the reveal of Homer's

24:36

test results and he gets dragged

24:38

off. Careful man,

24:40

he wet his pants damp. That was a

24:43

great callback to Bart.

24:47

And the one thing that I

24:49

always remembered but I've forgotten was from

24:51

this episode was, I

24:53

think it's Kearney? Don't ever show your face

24:55

around here again, you tool! And that was

24:58

Nelson. Was that Nelson? Yeah, when they

25:00

realised that MJ isn't MJ. Had a different maybe

25:02

sort of pitch of voice. Okay, I'm pretty sure

25:04

it was Nelson. I could be wrong. Yeah, but

25:06

yeah, one of the boys. Don't ever show your

25:09

face around here again, you tool! Can

25:11

you establish bully at this point? I'm pretty sure the

25:13

three bullies were Jimbo, Dolph

25:15

and Nelson. Could well be Nelson. Yeah, I

25:18

could be wrong. What else did you enjoy?

25:20

Well, I've yeah, yeah, let's have the one.

25:22

No worries, shall we do some, well, we've

25:24

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25:36

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to go first. You are. Please recite

27:37

to me the Krusty Hotline number. One nine zero nine, is

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it? One nine hundred? One nine zero nine? OU Clown? That's

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correct. Oh my God. It's

27:46

called Krusty Hotline. I'm going to go with OU Clown. OU

27:49

Clown? Mm-hmm. That's correct. Oh

27:52

my God. My first question

27:54

then for you is, what does the

27:57

sign at the New Bedlam Mental Asylum

27:59

say? There's a sign on

28:01

the wall, they're walking in. It

28:04

says you don't have to be crazy

28:06

to be committed, but it helps. Yeah,

28:08

right. In

28:11

Lisa's poem, what kind of car hits noble?

28:14

Chrysler? It was a Chrysler. I forgot that was

28:16

in his episode. She lied! She

28:18

lied! I love homes as well. No

28:22

deal. So it's notes, he

28:24

lied, he lied, she died. She

28:29

died! She died! You

28:31

know the answer to this one, but read it out for me, the four dates. Brooke

28:34

Shields, Diana Ross, Emmanuel Lewis, aka

28:37

Webster, and Bubbles. And Bubbles, the

28:39

monkey. Was it just the monkey? So what's the chimp? So

28:41

did he just have a chimp following him around like Mr.

28:43

Teeny? What was the deal with Bubbles? I've heard

28:45

of Bubbles, but I wasn't old enough to sort

28:47

of live through it. Yeah, I

28:50

don't know if Bubbles accompanies MJ everywhere,

28:52

but did he have him out in public, this

28:55

monkey? I think if you

28:57

went to Neverland, you would

28:59

invariably meet and probably interact with Bubbles.

29:08

It comes across like a guy who had so much money that he

29:11

just didn't know what to do with it anymore. So

29:13

it was his case of he was trying

29:15

to create a youth

29:17

that he never got to live. That seemed to be

29:19

the thing, wasn't it? That seemed to be the armchair

29:21

psychologist opinion. He had all

29:23

the money in the world. You

29:27

know that they're making this biopic about

29:30

Michael Jackson, right? No. Just

29:32

called Michael. Of course it is. Just

29:34

called magical Michael. Arnold. Sly.

29:38

Starring like

29:40

his nephew or something like that as

29:43

young Michael. So when's it

29:45

set? Is it his whole life? I

29:47

think it's his whole life, but it's one of

29:49

those ones like Straight Outta Compton or where

29:53

the Jackson family is like the executive producer.

29:55

Like, okay, you've got the rights. We're going

29:57

to rewrite history, everybody. Pretty much. We've

30:00

got the rights, we'll give you the rights of the

30:02

songs, but in return you're gonna have to whitewash some

30:04

of this Less savory stuff,

30:06

or just you'll allude to it, but

30:08

you know for the sake of like

30:11

being upfront and honest Which

30:13

is weird because I thought I did the opposite for the Freddy

30:15

Mercury, but he me Rhapsody film They made it come across so

30:17

much worse than what he actually was not the The

30:20

band split up and he wouldn't get back together and

30:22

they wanted to do Live Aid and he did and

30:24

I'm thinking None of this happened. Why have you fabricated

30:26

such bullshit? Yeah, I don't know I mean I've watched

30:28

Bohemian Rhapsody once and I'm like I've got no desire

30:30

to ever say this So many people say to me.

30:32

I've had people say to me. Oh, it's such a

30:34

great story. It's such a good film I didn't realize

30:36

that happened. I thought it didn't happen. No, none of

30:38

this happened. It's just I Understand

30:40

writers license, but I don't know just me. I

30:43

watched it going Freddy Mercury comes across a little

30:45

douchebag You feel that

30:47

he came across a bit of a douche threat a

30:49

good portion of the last half of that movie I

30:51

don't really recall that much of it in all honesty

30:53

I just a lot of huge craze for about six

30:55

months wasn't he won What did he win the Academy

30:57

Award for it? Do you? Yeah, and I mean I

30:59

like that I mean Malick is an actor but it

31:01

was bandwagon. Yeah, big time. So we

31:04

all love Queen songs. Correct Yeah, I've

31:06

got a final question for you. I got a llama

31:08

visited when 1952

31:10

on your questions, correct Indeed

31:13

indeed, but my ask you one more.

31:15

Yeah, what is Leon compost keys hometown?

31:18

Brooklyn Patterson, New Jersey, Madison,

31:21

New Jersey. Alrighty, so the

31:23

original a date of start driving down was

31:25

September 19th 1991

31:28

production code 7f to 4 written

31:30

by Algene and Mike Reese and

31:32

directed by rich more The

31:34

episode always do have the trouble guys. Well, I'm so

31:36

used to we do season 18 reviews There's no chalk

31:38

gag and like kind of stuff at the chalkboard gag

31:40

I am NOT a dentist and the couch guy the

31:42

cash tips over backwards sending the Simpsons family through the

31:44

wall It's just a fairly

31:47

old-school Not elaborate couch

31:49

gag. It's just like back to

31:51

the day and something happens. Yeah. Yeah Even this the

31:53

cash gags like this. Yeah, they took me back

31:56

when you see 18. Just The

32:00

episode kicks off with Lisa waking up Bart, which

32:02

is what he does at the end of the

32:04

episode. She wakes up at 6am and he's having

32:06

dad died. And he's actually, I believe he's actually

32:08

relieved. Well you're not on my leave. Yeah, but

32:10

it's almost Lisa's birthday and she's worried about becoming

32:12

double digits. And that's Bart's, you know, that's when

32:14

your legs start to go and candy doesn't taste

32:16

as good anymore. And

32:19

he's always, she says that he's

32:21

always disappointed her and he finally gives in and says

32:23

that he will get her a present. And I do

32:26

agree, it's just the pressure to be given

32:28

a present. So, un-Lisa-like? It

32:30

did, didn't it? Yeah. That's right.

32:32

She seems like someone who should

32:34

be, I don't need physical objects.

32:36

Yeah. Make a donation to Peter.

32:38

Peter. Mm. Peter

32:41

starving child. But Marge asks Bart

32:43

in the kitchen to watch Maggie while she goes

32:45

and gets some laundry. He calls the Krusty Hotline,

32:47

doesn't pay any attention. If you haven't asked your

32:49

parents, naughty, naughty, but Krusty forgives you. By

32:52

the way, how long was the, how much for the first

32:54

minute and how much for each additional minute? It was too

32:56

old for the first. They're 50 cents after, I'm pretty sure.

32:58

There's no beating you. No. No.

33:00

I just, yeah. Photographed memory. But the thing

33:02

is, it took me back, I've got my

33:04

notes here, Hotlines take me back. Remember when

33:06

Hotlines, for me it was cheats for video

33:08

games. Call this Hotline. For $5 a minute,

33:10

we can tell you how to enter this

33:12

combo for Eddie Gordo on Tekken 3. Did

33:15

you ever call it any Hotlines or things like that? For me

33:17

it was phone sex. Okay, yeah. I still do that. Does

33:20

phone sex still exist? I'm not sure it does.

33:22

You reckon? I guess it must. I'm

33:25

sure there's like an app for it or something, but I can't

33:27

imagine there's 1-900-Call-Me. Call

33:30

me now. I always say it

33:32

in the Call Me Now. We're waiting

33:34

for you, cool. And it's probably like some 70-year-old

33:36

cheater who's got a really hot voice. That's

33:39

right. Yeah. What are

33:42

you wearing? Oh,

33:44

Hotlines. The best, yeah, you know, it costs you

33:46

just laughs for the entire time. Makes you money.

33:49

Call back tomorrow. And then Maggie grabs the fan.

33:51

Not on live podcasts. No, Maggie grabs the fan,

33:53

Marge walks in the freezer. She ever powered me?

33:55

Then I'm an easy shirt for work. And unfortunately

33:58

they're all pink and it was also buzz-fog. with

34:00

the lucky red hat. Indeed. Quick question. Did

34:03

Homer always have that hairy chest? Um,

34:05

yeah, I was always being curly. Yeah. Yeah, I just...

34:08

Never picked up on it? No! This was the first time

34:10

I thought... I always thought Homer was

34:12

just like smooth chested. In

34:14

the early days anyway, he always had the curly hairs

34:16

on his chest. Yeah. I don't remember seeing this episode,

34:19

but that's what he usually looks like anyway. But I

34:21

love the line here of, I'm not popular enough to

34:23

be different. That's so true of any aspects. When you're

34:25

growing up, you just... I can't be different.

34:28

Only the cool kids can be quirky. Have you ever

34:30

worn a pink shirt? Yeah, I

34:32

have several pink shirts. Yeah. Purple. Do you

34:34

recall the first time that... I mean, was there ever any sort

34:37

of trepidation about the first time you put one on? I remember

34:39

the first time I wore it out to a nightclub. And

34:42

I was very anxious. Yeah. But

34:44

I thought I looked good. But

34:46

I thought, if someone comments on this,

34:48

it's going to break me. I'm going to go home straight away.

34:50

I'm going to go home and burn it. Yes. But straight

34:53

away, I remember these two girls. Emily... I won't say

34:55

her last name. This is her last name. Emily. And

34:57

Kate. I wish. Emily and

34:59

Kate said, oh, nice shirt. And I remember I

35:01

first thinking, are they taking

35:04

the Mickey? This is genuine. And then I

35:07

realized they weren't. I won't explain how. When

35:10

they ripped it off my body. Yeah. But then

35:12

I realized, I know, it's okay. And it was

35:14

because even 15 years ago, wearing a pink shirt

35:16

was... Now it's whatever.

35:18

You wear no shirt to a nightclub. You

35:22

feel like you look good, but you're scared to see

35:24

what other people think. That's cool. But you shouldn't. You

35:26

should feel comfortable. You should just wear it. It depends

35:28

on your colouring as well. I mean... What shade of

35:30

pink? Yeah. All the lovely Louise is often done. I

35:32

mean, it's like, colour's not really you. Yeah,

35:34

what colour is that? Anything that's

35:37

like... Anything that's not black. Pretty

35:39

much. Anything outside black, black,

35:42

gray or blue. No,

35:44

because I mean, I am kind

35:46

of partial to purple. I

35:49

think it's... I like wearing it.

35:51

Not necessarily an all purple outfit.

35:53

I'm not Prince. That was Michael Jackson.

35:55

What am I talking about? We

35:59

have to print a little bit later. in the show. We will

36:01

indeed. I recall we were at some shop and I

36:03

was like, oh I really like this polish shirt in

36:05

this colour and I don't know how many times I've

36:07

told you this is not your colour. It does not

36:09

suit your personal colouring. Is it that she doesn't

36:11

think you look good in it or is it? Most

36:14

people will think you look good in it. Her opinion

36:16

is the only one that matters. Yeah, yeah. You're supposed

36:18

to be looking good for one person at show, yes

36:20

I am. That is correct. And as yourself, right David,

36:22

you think you look good in purple? Wear damn purple.

36:24

I will. You're going to buy your purple shirt for

36:26

your birthday. I've got a

36:28

Waynes World shirt that's purple and I've had it since,

36:31

I reckon that was 17, still fits me. It's one of those shirts where

36:33

I judge whether I need to lose some weight or if I put the

36:35

shirt on too tight, I'm like, alright, I need to lose a bit of

36:37

weight. I've told you, we've talked

36:39

about the aspirational shirts. Yeah, yeah. I might fit into

36:41

mine now. Oh really? Yeah. Nice one. So I put

36:43

it on a couple of weeks ago, I wore it

36:45

to pick up Ali and I thought, I

36:47

still got it baby. I just

36:51

still got it and it referred to my gut. No,

36:54

you're looking great. You're looking really, really good. So

36:57

basically Homer showed us now pink. It's all over

36:59

Marge, it's all over. And then

37:01

he's revealed here that it has been tapped as we said,

37:03

Marge, no one's going to notice. I really like the scene

37:06

they're shot here of him walking in with all the workers

37:08

all wearing white and he's wearing the pink and burns. He's

37:10

not a fan of it at all, is he? Some sort

37:12

of free thinking anarchist. One of your

37:14

boobs from Sector 7G. Yes. And these

37:16

colour monitors that paid for themselves. And

37:19

then Lenny gives Homer a pink frosting donut and

37:21

there's an alien shit. And you can imagine this

37:23

is what will happen in a factory wearing

37:26

a pink shirt. Not cool. He doesn't make him a pink

37:29

donut either. No, no, but he does like it though. He

37:31

does like pink frost. Are you

37:33

a chocolate donut or a pink donut? I was always chocolate as a

37:35

kid, I'm pink all the way now. I think I would be a

37:37

pink donut guy. Yeah. Maybe it's the Simpsons influence, I don't know, but

37:40

I prefer when it comes to sweets, strawberry,

37:42

like pink is over chocolate

37:44

and death wait for me. Having said that,

37:46

a combination of the two is very

37:48

nice. I mean, did you ever, I think our American

37:50

friends called Bisquick, but we call it quick.

37:52

Oh, quick. Yeah. Yeah. You can find it. She flavours.

37:54

I combined a chocolate and strawberry. Was it amazing? It's

37:56

pretty damn right. Did you ever get banana? Banana was

37:58

the one that you Everyone else is

38:00

running out. This is what I'm about to say. I'm

38:03

very partial to banana flavouring. I think you might have

38:05

said you're the kid that liked the weird things. Because

38:08

no one ate banana quick. You went to your

38:10

friend's house and they had bananas and banana. Banana

38:12

big M? Yeah, no. And

38:15

I was at the NQR. I

38:19

went there with Elliot maybe three days ago. He was

38:21

in heaven. I

38:24

was like, look at all these low, low prices!

38:28

Well, we would have gone to the same NQR.

38:30

It's just around the corner from Dando's pad. If

38:32

you do them around here, they've got three dollar

38:34

lint bunnies, which are perfect for Easter time. That

38:36

is correct. Friend of the pot, NQR. The

38:40

other thing they had though, and while I'm

38:42

trying to be on something in the healthcare I thought,

38:44

this is too good to pass up because it's not

38:46

something that you often see in Australia. And

38:49

even beyond that, it's kind of like a... At

38:51

an affordable price as well. It's a variant of...

38:54

I love when they get the US of variants and

38:56

shit, yeah. It was banana flavoured Twinkies. I

38:58

still wouldn't eat it, but I can imagine you would have loved it. I bought

39:01

the box. The

39:03

whole box, yeah. No, no. Well, they weren't selling them

39:05

individually. Oh, okay. Yeah, you had to get a box of

39:07

ten. I'm like... You feel like an absolute boss when

39:09

you just drop the box on a can of two. You're like, all of them. Give

39:14

it to me. Give it to me, babe. Because Nikolas, she

39:16

loves these protein bars. And they usually cost six dollars each

39:18

right at the supermarket. They've got it for a dollar fifty

39:20

each! What? I bought

39:23

three boxes of them. What? A dollar

39:25

fifty! They all went out, date like six

39:27

months ago, but it's still a dollar fifty! I

39:31

think there's a difference between the best before date and the

39:34

used by date. Used by? Don't

39:36

go past that. Best before? Yeah. That's

39:39

fine. Just blow it a bit and it'll be fine. I'll dust off.

39:43

Lou was cleaning out her cupboards not long ago. I think

39:45

I might have told the story. And, you know, you double

39:47

up on various things like, oh, I'm out of so-and-so oil.

39:49

Oh, wait a minute. There were actually three bottles way back

39:51

in the cupboard. We're cleaning out the

39:54

cupboard and there was, I think we did like maybe

39:56

four, four or five big garbage bags of

39:58

this like. pass it

40:00

to you by date or whatever and there was some words

40:02

like I think that's the best before. She's

40:04

like I'm throwing that and I said well maybe I'll take that back to mine. I

40:08

took like a big bag of stuff that

40:10

had best before or was just passed it to you by date

40:12

like oh use it for the next couple of days. She was

40:14

looking at me like I was some kind of freak. I

40:17

had a good memory as you were talking then of I very rarely

40:19

seen my mum drunk. I was just speaking of things sort of like

40:21

in the back of my closet and my

40:23

mum used to have this is it port? Oh

40:26

yeah. But it was a Geelong Cats

40:28

football one right that she got just

40:31

as a present moment when I was born right. Someone said and

40:33

they said when the cats win the flag you can drink this

40:35

right and of course the Geelong Cats and the AFL here were

40:37

in the 89, 92, 94, 95 grand final never won them. So

40:42

I just sat and I used to sit on

40:44

the bench at our house for years, decades right

40:46

and I'll never forget in 2007 when the cats

40:48

won the grand final and I said mum you can

40:51

drink that port now and just seeing mum get drunk on

40:53

this port was just like such a great memory like mum's

40:55

finally gets to drink this port. Like

40:58

19 years later she's finally drinking this port.

41:01

Oh dear port. I can't drink it anymore.

41:03

I got absolutely shit faced

41:06

on it like New Year's Eve

41:08

around maybe 1989 or something and

41:11

maybe it was the same bar chick. I

41:16

forgot where I was but I was at like some event

41:18

and they were like little shot glasses of port yeah because

41:20

you don't have it in big glasses you have it like

41:22

it's a port of mind you a little bits of it

41:24

and I had like maybe six or seven maybe

41:27

more. Mum had a Sharon size drink

41:29

of it and I

41:31

just got I ended up ushering in

41:33

the New Year out in the garden just

41:35

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43:44

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43:47

Then we get an appearance from Dr Marvin Monroe. Yeah,

43:49

I forgot that he was in this episode. And

43:51

he says that it used to

43:53

take months to find out if someone was insane, but now, thanks

43:55

to what? Oh, I've forgotten

43:58

the... The take-home personal... That's

44:00

right. I knew it was the test. I've got

44:02

the actual name of it. Answer 20 questions and

44:05

determine how crazy my sugar nut. My sugar nut!

44:07

Someone is. I

44:09

love it when, normally crusty is the mouthpiece

44:11

for wonderful expressive Yiddish terms, but I like it when

44:13

someone else gets to throw one in. But then he

44:15

asks Marge to fill in the forms because she would

44:18

do it. And he asks Lisa and this is where

44:20

he gets the hole. Is

44:22

it meditations of an eight-year-old or sports

44:24

of an eight-year-old based with her parliament?

44:26

It had meditation I think, you know

44:28

ruminations or something terribly pretentious.

44:31

Lisa, you like homework. Could you fill out this

44:33

form for me? Oh, all right. If you listen

44:35

to the poem I just wrote. Oh,

44:38

okay. Meditations on turning

44:40

eight by Lisa Simpson. I had

44:42

a cat named Snowball. She

44:45

died, she died. Mom said

44:47

she was sleeping. She lied,

44:49

she lied. Why oh why

44:51

is my cat dead? Couldn't that Chrysler

44:53

hit me instead? I

44:55

had a hamster named Snuffy. He died. No

44:57

deal. She lied, she lied. No

44:59

deal. Hope it is

45:02

bailing there, it's just the perfect no deal. Now

45:06

can you say no deal now without doing the X?

45:08

No deal. I

45:11

think I can. People

45:13

on the deal or no deal show just love doing

45:15

a no deal. Look,

45:18

I slipped the champion. By the way, this is

45:20

an audio thing, but we were actually doing the

45:22

no deal. No deal, yeah. So

45:25

he has Bart here. Bart's not sure. It's not like

45:27

that time he let me vote for you. Then Homer

45:29

watches Funny Stone videos as Bart's doing it. And

45:31

maybe with a nail gun, dog on fire. Dog

45:33

on fire. Dog on fire. Look at him. Just

45:36

says yes to everything here. And unfortunately he does

45:38

not pass the test and... So this is a

45:40

tough man. He whips his pants. That's so good.

45:42

He's then taken to New Bedlam, the

45:44

mental asylum. Is that a mental asylum? Mental

45:46

hospital? I think it's mental hospital.

45:48

Is he even, is he going to say mental hospital? Well

45:51

it is for your mental health. Yeah, that is your

45:53

mental health hospital maybe. It's

45:55

the rest of the emotionally interesting apparently, that's what the science

45:57

says. They

46:01

show him the ink spots and the boy,

46:03

the boy. That's actually a great payoff

46:05

letter. There is a bot! But

46:09

they stamp his hand, he's insane. And

46:11

whoever has this stamp is insane. Then

46:13

he's thrown in with the big white guy who thinks

46:15

he's the little blackest guy. Thank you. Homer

46:18

Simpson. Well, I'm Homer Simpson from

46:20

The Simpsons. Homer doesn't know who Michael

46:22

Jackson is unfortunately. He does the Billie Jean dance, nup,

46:24

does the moonwalk, what's that thing? And

46:26

you know, what were you throwing it for? For wearing

46:28

one white glove covered in rhinestones. Booo! And

46:32

the kids are now watching Itchy and Scratchy. It

46:36

is banging the cat slowly. I've

46:39

got here a show the kids laughing at it. They

46:41

looked hideous. The animation here was really

46:44

terrible. It's worth going back. If you

46:46

can find access to this episode, check

46:48

out Spartan Lisa laughing at this scene. It's really bad. It

46:51

just looks like a... You know

46:53

when they said in the earlier episodes, they said they had to

46:55

delete, although they had to go back

46:57

and reanimate. There was some enchanted evening. It felt like the

46:59

animation from that is really, really bad. But Lisa hints here

47:01

that she, you know, went with that present. And

47:04

as Bart says, you want that once, you empty gesture? You've got

47:06

it. I guess that's

47:08

what a lot of it is, isn't it? Oh, it's your birthday, I better

47:10

get you a present. I guess so. And

47:13

then we're at the mental health hospital. And

47:15

he introduces Frank the idiot. He's

47:17

an idiot savant. Idiot savant, yeah, that's a term

47:19

that's sort of fallen out of favour. Yes. Five

47:23

by nine. Well,

47:26

and the chief, who's the chief from? The

47:29

chief is from one that flew over the Cuckoo's

47:31

Nest. Been there since 1968. No

47:35

one else came in the kitchen. Don't tell

47:37

somebody who reached out to me. I

47:39

think there is another, it's not

47:41

an obvious Cuckoo's Nest reference,

47:43

but there is someone a little bit later

47:45

who looks like Jack Nicholson as McMurphy from...

47:48

Really? Well, it's... Just sitting in the hospital?

47:50

No, no. I

47:53

think Homer's asking, how do I get out of here? There's one

47:55

way, dating a nurse. Yeah, and

47:57

he looks a bit like Jack Nicholson. Does he? Okay.

48:00

That person looked too bad. She probably, you have to

48:02

be tough to work in a place like that though

48:04

I'd imagine. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. You get a lot of

48:06

shit thrown at you and just, yeah. Literally

48:09

and metaphorically. But he calls home. What

48:11

are the other places on the speed

48:14

dot did you see? I did. Oh

48:16

no. Larry King Show. Ora.

48:18

Geraldo. Geraldo. And then as I

48:20

said, I thought I'd feel it on a who? Yeah. And

48:23

Ski Report. Why Ski Report? That I don't know.

48:27

But he's too embarrassed of course to get to

48:29

Michael to call for him. Just be

48:31

notorious. You'll kill him. We grill

48:34

him. Hello. Who is this?

48:36

I'm Bart Simpson. Who the hell are you?

48:38

I'm Michael Jackson. The Michael Jackson? No way.

48:41

It's true. I'm with your father in a mental institution.

48:43

Uh-huh. And is Elvis with you? He could be.

48:46

It's a big hospital. Oh come on. That's

48:48

always been a thing isn't it? Elvis is still alive. That's sort

48:50

of, they're still to this day used. Two

48:52

pucker. And Elvis. They're the two

48:54

ones. And there was that whole thing about Paul

48:56

McCartney is dead and Elvis is still alive. They

48:59

must actually believe Paul McCartney is dead. That's wild

49:01

to me. And they believe that Paul McCartney

49:03

is an imposter. Yeah. So weird. Yeah.

49:08

He's simply having a wonderful Christmas time. Yeah. All

49:11

the time. Not a huge fan of that song

49:13

though. I like it. Mmm.

49:16

It just felt very, it just, you listen to it and

49:18

you go Paul was just trying to make money with this.

49:21

Like I'm going to write a Christmas jingle. You just put that

49:23

in there to be commercial. Yeah. And

49:25

so many times have I said though, that's, we

49:27

should do that. We should knuckle down and write a Christmas song

49:29

and then we're just on the easy street. Forever. Man,

49:32

right, Gary. What a resurgence he's had. Every

49:36

December 25. Yes. Well

49:38

it's December 1st. She cracked out of the night.

49:40

That's right. But

49:43

he wants you to stand the line while the person tells his

49:45

friends and family but he says, you better not. And then, what

49:47

do you say, you don't want your dad to have a little

49:49

bottomy? You want your dad out of here shortly, right? Basically,

49:52

homies are like, he's worried he's never going to get out of here. He really sure

49:54

is homie. You will get out.

49:56

The only way out, as you said, date in the North.

49:58

Why is that my voice? It's a

50:00

little wise guy voice, yeah. I think it was a wise guy

50:02

voice, yeah. Also, I'm trying to put that Nickel Sony and sneer

50:04

in there. Yeah. Yeah.

50:06

Marge says, I told you one day you sent your dad to the

50:08

crazy house. Poor house. Crazy house. Poor

50:11

house. He's ashamed to admit to MJ that

50:13

he's scared. That's a big deal for a guy, even to this

50:15

day, to admit that they're scared. Oh, very much so. Yeah. Because

50:18

we're just, we're raised to think you've got to be tough and

50:20

strong. I don't think I've ever, I've seen my dad cry once.

50:23

That's when a family member passed away. But did you ever

50:25

see Bobby cry very often? Not very

50:27

often, once. Yeah. That was very

50:30

bracing. Yeah. I do

50:32

like the idea though of Homer admitting to another guy,

50:34

I'm scared. You know, he obviously is scared. He's never

50:36

going to get out. And this is where Leon

50:39

slash MJ sings Ben or Homer.

50:41

I've always liked this. Oh

50:43

man. It's just, it's a nice

50:45

little spin on it. But then pancakes, football. This

50:47

slayed my house. I went, I was like, boobies.

50:53

And Bubbles is going to be a long night. Then it's time for

50:55

a therapy session. And we've got Dave here

50:57

who suffers from agoraphobia. Maybe

51:00

smoking and group therapy as well. I

51:02

was like, yeah. 90s, her magical

51:04

time. Yeah. Marge pleads the

51:06

doc. You know, just don't mention Bart. There really is

51:08

a Bart. Good Lord. Marge is very well dressed. Yeah.

51:11

She's picking up when she's pleading her case.

51:13

I thought she's going to prison. Yeah. The

51:16

prison wife. But she embraces Homer

51:18

and he's revealed here that it's not a threat to

51:20

yourself or others. I want that in

51:22

writing please. They give him the not insane. Did

51:26

you get a diploma? Diploma, yeah. And Michael

51:29

says that he can come home as well because only

51:31

they're voluntarily. Because you're sad

51:33

when in 1979 he's off the wall. A

51:35

record only nominated for one lousy Grammy. That

51:37

sounds about right. Yeah. Is

51:40

that true? Should we look it up? Off the wall.

51:42

I feel like Off the Wall won everything. It's just

51:44

so renowned. Well, it's got Rock with you on it.

51:47

Which is, you know, one of my favourite Michael G. What's

51:49

the other one? Want to be starting something? No, that's on

51:51

Thriller. Or is it on Bad? Blame it on the boogie.

51:53

Blame it on the boogie. That's Off the Wall, right? Isn't

51:55

it? I think so. Or is

51:57

that just a Michael song or is it a Jackson's? Oh

52:00

you could be right there. Off the Wall. Let's get

52:02

the track listing for Off the Wall. It's his first

52:04

album. I remember having it. Only it. Track

52:07

listing. Scoring it to the bottom. Don't

52:09

stop till you get enough. That's what I'm thinking of. You

52:12

got Rock with You, Working Day and Night, Off the Wall

52:14

Girlfriend, She's Out of My Life, It's Falling in Love. They're

52:17

the singles that were released from it. I'm the

52:19

same. I'm a mum. Samaku-sa. Great record.

52:22

And then it was... Thriller

52:25

just changed everything, right? Thriller changed a lot of things.

52:28

Particularly like music videos, didn't it? Oh yeah,

52:30

absolutely. I mean... Was it an

52:32

event to actually see the full video? It was an event to

52:34

watch the making of Thriller. Really? Yeah. That's pretty

52:36

cool. That really spawned MTV,

52:38

didn't it? Or was MTV a thing before

52:40

that? MTV was a thing before that,

52:43

but I think... Certainly. You

52:46

took music at the Thriller. Yeah,

52:48

just sort of... Yep. Oh we can make movies out of

52:50

this now. Yeah. Back home though,

52:52

they're all happy at the mental health hospital. Back

52:54

home Lisa was sad. She was saying happy birthday

52:57

to herself. Happy birthday

52:59

to me. Happy

53:01

birthday to me. Happy

53:04

birthday... Oh I looked at

53:06

my little child. Happy

53:09

birthday to me. You

53:16

do feel bad for her that they've forgotten her

53:18

on her birthday. There's a lot going on. There

53:20

is a lot going on. Still, it's a bit

53:23

taller. But then we

53:25

get... they call home. Joe's taxidermy used

53:27

to snuff him, we snuff him. I feel like you couldn't say

53:29

we snuff him anymore. Could you? I

53:32

don't know if you could, right? On a kid's show? We

53:34

snuff him? Or you snuff him? I think

53:36

it's a perfectly acceptable alternative

53:38

to... Eh, maybe. Alright. But

53:41

he pretends... So this is basically

53:43

Homer calling up home, and he threatens Bart, but

53:45

then he pretends he's being nice when the dog's looking at him. What's

53:47

going on here? And he says he's

53:49

bringing Michael Jackson home. So he makes sure there's plenty of

53:52

cold cuts and beer on ice. But unfortunately, he's a vegetarian.

53:55

Are you sure you're here voluntarily? I'm a vegetarian. I'm

53:57

doing a drink. Yes. Promises

53:59

not to tell anybody, but he can't. help it so he just tells, he just

54:01

tells Millhouse, he just tells Millhouse, who does he know? Of

54:05

course it spreads all the way through, even

54:08

to the, a bulletin on KBVL radio and they're

54:10

going to play an extra long version of In

54:12

the Garden of Eden, is that so they can

54:14

go out and see Michael? I think it must

54:16

be. In the Garden of Eden is already long.

54:18

Yes, the extra long version, yes. So

54:21

that's what Bart uses in Bart's House of Soul

54:23

by the way. Remember it was In the Garden

54:25

of Eden by Iron Butterfly. Great song. Yes,

54:29

Apu then closes for the first time ever, so

54:31

clearly it's a big deal here in Springfield that

54:33

Michael Jackson is coming to town, Bart then overhears

54:36

the helicopter over the, over the house and

54:38

the mayor announces that they're going to be

54:40

announcing the new expressway, the Michael Jackson expressway

54:42

and Mo. So this is post-bad

54:45

but pre-dangerous. Dangerous

54:48

was 80s wasn't it? I thought it, I thought it went

54:50

thriller. Bad, dangerous.

54:53

And what is black and white? Michael

54:55

Jackson and Albert. Black or white, have a look. So

54:58

dangerous was 91, the same year-ish. Okay.

55:03

When in 91 did it come out? I

55:06

think in 26th November, so this

55:09

aired before dangerous. So

55:11

thriller was, I thought thriller was 80. Okay,

55:13

so 82. Bad was 87. What was

55:16

the one that had involved, is it

55:18

history? Was it like a statue on the front?

55:20

Yeah, and that's like mid-90s. That's the one

55:22

that I remember the most, the key because all the singles

55:24

when I was growing up from video hits used to put

55:26

the album cover next to the song title. I think that

55:28

was like... You and I alone. What

55:31

was it, Earth Song on that one? Oh yeah.

55:33

Let's remember the time, I think the room that was

55:35

on the... Make it a better place. God, I haven't

55:37

thought about that song for so long. Heal

55:40

the world, make it a better place

55:42

for you and for me. Great

55:45

guy. Oh, we joke. Maybe

55:47

not the best babysitter. No,

55:50

apparently not, no. But

55:53

they all think Michael Jackson's going to be coming to Springfield though.

55:56

Leon gets out of the car and they realise, oh,

55:58

he's 300 pounds. white in

56:00

his breast without flair. All

56:03

things that have been levels of yours truly. Yes, everyone

56:06

then leaves and they

56:08

get punched. Don't ever show your face around here

56:10

again, you tool. Yeah, then Lisa asks about the

56:13

present and she's afraid to ask. You should trust

56:15

your instinct on that one. So

56:17

she basically is going to delete him from her life. She's

56:20

very sad about this. Homer tries washing off the stamp

56:22

and it's not coming off. And Michael

56:24

overhears Lisa writing the letter to Bart. Dear

56:27

Bart, I am using

56:29

the stationary mom and dad

56:31

gave me for my birthday

56:33

to inform you that we are

56:35

now brother and sister in name only. Perhaps

56:38

if it's a special selling night

56:40

I'll give you a hug at some

56:42

far distant family reunion.

56:45

But rest assured, it will be purely

56:47

for a show. It's

56:49

a bit dramatic. But I guess he's

56:52

eight year old. Yes, eight year old. But

56:54

he goes and tells Bart, let's go write a

56:56

song to show that you care. When

56:59

I was your age I had six girl records.

57:01

He's like, you're actually fucking crazy. No you didn't.

57:04

And basically, what is it that makes him

57:06

think, no it's a

57:08

threat of not, he goes you could not write

57:10

a song for your sister or you could take

57:13

advantage of potentially having Michael Jackson in. He's like

57:15

Michael, he just wanted to

57:17

believe. He's like,

57:19

sometimes you just choose to believe. It's like when you

57:21

clap your hands to say you believe in fairies to

57:23

bring Tinkerbell back to life. Have you ever done that?

57:25

I think I did it once. Did it work? It

57:28

did on the end, it actually did. No when you're a

57:30

kid though, and you know it's not true. We

57:33

discussed this on South Park. You know it's not real,

57:36

but there's still that fear of saying Bloody Mary three

57:38

times in the mirror. Never

57:40

to sleep wherever it is, that one kid that's going to do it like,

57:43

don't do it, he's a bad

57:45

man. He's a candy man,

57:48

poor dad, don't do it again, don't do

57:51

it. But he writes

57:53

the gasoline song about Lisa, her name is Lisa

57:55

and this song's not going to go down well,

57:57

so we go to look at Lisa. She

58:00

looks sad. She knows we're looking at her. But

58:04

she still would have been sad. But then

58:06

they write the song. Call

58:08

me crazy but I really love the training wheels.

58:10

Come off your bike. Da da

58:12

da da boys you like. Even

58:14

that is like a jingle. Why

58:16

could Jackson just have it man? Indeed. Even

58:19

if he does throw in a hee hee. To

58:21

be commercial. That's fine. That was his thing. They

58:24

enter Lisa's room the following morning and they sing one of

58:26

my favourite Simpson's songs of all time. Happy

58:28

birthday Lisa. I always said this thing

58:30

when I was a kid. I always said that when my

58:32

sister gets married I was going

58:35

to sing Stacey It's Your Wedding. I

58:37

was going to change the words for that. That was always my thing.

58:39

Stacey get married so I can do it please. Stacey's

58:42

getting married. It's such

58:44

a happy song. Someone's marrying Stacey. And

58:47

he goes wish you loving good will. I

58:50

love that song. I know it's deleted

58:52

and not most likely groomed children apparently.

58:54

That's the belief. Jackson.

58:57

Jackson. But I do

59:00

love that song. Homer's still sleeping. He's actually sleeping

59:02

with his Not Insane Award. Yes. And

59:05

they thank Michael. This is where his voice changes

59:07

and he reveals that he's actually Leon Kompowski from

59:09

Patterson New Joy Eazy. And

59:12

to make a tired point. Which one of

59:14

us is crazy? Is that me? I got

59:16

this. You're accredited dementia. By

59:18

the way yes the voice has now

59:20

switched to Hank Azaria. Is it Hank

59:22

now? Hank is doing lovely on Cleanest

59:24

Points. There we go. That's the end of the episode. As

59:27

he's singing the hat. At least it's

59:29

your birthday. And they have

59:31

an actual version of the song over the closing credits as

59:33

well. They do indeed but probably

59:35

still sung by what's his name? Kip Lemon.

59:37

Kip Lemon. Yeah. I love

59:40

this episode. I'll always love this episode.

59:42

It's a shame that it's not existing

59:44

anymore in streaming or whatever.

59:46

Understandable but if you can go

59:48

get a DVD or access it and

59:50

find access to it somehow because it's great.

59:54

The great use of a guest star. So weird isn't it? It

59:56

is indeed. I don't think it's anything that anyone

59:58

was expecting at all. least of

1:00:01

all Matt Groening when he was working late at the

1:00:03

office that night and got a call from Michael Jackson.

1:00:05

And Michael Jackson didn't even use his name in the

1:00:07

credits. He was referred to as John J Smith, not

1:00:09

the initial J, the word J-A-Y. I wonder if they

1:00:11

marketed at the time, obviously it wasn't there, but did

1:00:14

they market Michael Jackson as going to be on The

1:00:16

Simpsons? But then did the viewers

1:00:18

feel cheated because they didn't... If you were

1:00:20

just watching the show and you couldn't

1:00:22

go online, but if you didn't watch the news and find out that

1:00:24

Michael Jackson actually has a voice, if they said

1:00:26

Michael Jackson was coming to The Simpsons and you saw that ad as

1:00:28

a kid and then you realised it wasn't Michael Jackson, would you have

1:00:30

felt cheated, do you think, as a viewer? Because

1:00:32

he wasn't even listed in the credits. I think

1:00:35

the people at Simpsons HQ were probably working overtime,

1:00:37

certainly the marketing department, to let you know. It's like, yes,

1:00:40

it's billed as John J Smith, but we all know

1:00:42

who it is, right? We all know that Sam Essick

1:00:45

is Dustin Hoffman and we all know that John J

1:00:47

Smith is... Sam J. Yeah,

1:00:49

look, it is sad that this episode

1:00:51

has been quite unquote cancelled or memory-holed

1:00:53

or what have you. It's also sad

1:00:55

that we didn't get the proposed sequel.

1:00:58

I know. That would have been awesome.

1:01:00

So it was Prince. That's what I had in mind. Leon's

1:01:02

going to return as Prince. What's

1:01:05

the actual story of the episode though? They

1:01:07

do have it somewhere listed online, but basically

1:01:09

I remember reading going, this just feels like

1:01:12

a rehash. It felt, from

1:01:14

what I understand, it seemed kind of strange

1:01:16

that Leon came back to Springfield and

1:01:18

now he was more like Prince. He sort of

1:01:20

had a more of a Prince identity than a

1:01:22

Michael Jackson identity. Surely everyone remembers him though from

1:01:25

the first time. And basically wanted Springfield to sort

1:01:27

of loosen up and be love sexy in the

1:01:29

Prince day. I

1:01:31

don't know. This feels pretty thin. Even

1:01:34

though, was Conan O'Brien who read the script? Was

1:01:36

it Conan? I think Conan either wrote or worked

1:01:38

on it. Let's go. There's going to be a

1:01:40

proposed sequel somewhere on the... I

1:01:43

produced sequels. A year after Star-Grow-ing Dad aired, the

1:01:45

writers planned a sequel which can pass you a

1:01:47

return. This time claiming to be the pop star

1:01:49

Prince, the script was written by freelancers and polished

1:01:51

by Conan O'Brien. Got that Conan

1:01:54

polish. Yeah, according to Mike Reese, It

1:01:56

saw compassion encourage the Springfield residents to

1:01:58

loosen up, become more flannel. going to

1:02:00

become more sexually open Prince agreed to

1:02:02

voice capacity a set notes about what

1:02:04

he's tried to would wear but the

1:02:06

reduce discover the prince was referring to

1:02:08

ask for having written on suffer so

1:02:10

he must prevent the script sprints dislikes

1:02:12

basket and demanded the edwin be used

1:02:14

for the room has refused. The script

1:02:16

became one of the few I'm produce

1:02:18

Simpson scripts following that into a sixteen

1:02:20

seven out same person to screenshots of

1:02:22

scenes from the script this museum for

1:02:24

since the stuff like that of god

1:02:26

it's ability and of right of the

1:02:28

last of us this. Is where houseful of

1:02:31

some produce. Golden Era Simpsons episode. Yeah, and

1:02:33

supposedly I am open society. I'm going to

1:02:35

say I wouldn't want that either. That seems

1:02:37

very thin as he said and a rehash

1:02:40

of the matter with a return to the

1:02:42

difference. But if one. Is. Just been

1:02:44

here ever noted above its innocence. Is it

1:02:46

just the ever going out of let Leon

1:02:48

be Leon said sig yeah I think Leon

1:02:51

lift Springville don't under a cloud but I

1:02:53

think the residents to Springfield unlike we were

1:02:55

sort sounds by this guy. yes I guess

1:02:57

the residences preferred Don't know that he wasn't

1:02:59

real. do they? Are you? The Simpsons know

1:03:01

that I am Finucane claim to the Simpsons

1:03:04

family. Or you could point me they, oh

1:03:06

that's a that's a whole new can of

1:03:08

worms. The only way out Jane for us

1:03:10

to know this is to release. didn't I

1:03:12

skipped need to sit. By slipped the

1:03:15

only way. That. We can be sure

1:03:17

about this is for Al Jean to come on forefinger,

1:03:19

disco and talk about let that with actually like. Jane

1:03:23

come out on the sun and the thought about it.

1:03:26

Be great. Want to compare script or other

1:03:28

pets but the script he suffers get so

1:03:30

me Sir Philip Russia Scripts Florida that says

1:03:33

as he bought out Princes Street or is

1:03:35

pretty better than I thought. I was running

1:03:37

away all the time. yes. Episode

1:03:40

Prison Bit of an odd non

1:03:42

oddball but the main de Soto

1:03:44

new go. To

1:03:47

decide see men and. I. Love

1:03:49

to hear what's what's socio that would

1:03:51

have a ripe of right big one

1:03:53

not I merged and so although. Prince.

1:03:56

Probably been pretty savvy business and what

1:03:58

was it? was released around. Robert

1:04:00

I know my one like a am I late

1:04:02

eighties a linguist sort of. When. Not

1:04:04

in the my name is prince he er no

1:04:06

not the north where the seventies on that? yeah

1:04:08

we're not done and pills in. Are. In

1:04:11

cream and green. What I saw.

1:04:14

It on a a nice a fund

1:04:16

the i'm the Core fuckers prince was

1:04:18

just full of the great quotes and

1:04:21

need to for our when he passed

1:04:23

Ness on the radio out pulled over

1:04:25

on like. Wow. Fuck that

1:04:27

affected me. I'm afraid that's it. Affected me.

1:04:30

A Prince, David Bowie and Robin Williams. Artist.

1:04:32

Or but they stopped me my tracks. Oh

1:04:34

yeah, and it's always we'd wind you sort

1:04:36

of. It happens in the

1:04:39

middle of your day he like he don't

1:04:41

wake up to that news hear him things

1:04:43

on social media and started bumps Yeah Matthew

1:04:45

Perry is a recent has begun to isolate

1:04:47

ledger that was collect isn't it here. See.

1:04:50

Pledges did and as saw a neat

1:04:52

of and is quite from prints from

1:04:54

Prince and Him. Prince. And met

1:04:57

type. Of. The quickest team Ff

1:04:59

Ff. The headline is Prince had

1:05:01

no time for Met Diamonds pedestrian

1:05:04

small talk for sex offender. Or

1:05:08

what I working on together. this was just at a

1:05:10

party idea. Here it is. This is a quote from

1:05:12

Julia Stone said coast I would end in the Bourne

1:05:14

Movies after the Bourne Ultimatum come out. there was a

1:05:16

premier in London. Prince actually came to a thing, got

1:05:18

tickets with a cast can see him perform with somebody

1:05:20

into a room to made him after the show mets

1:05:23

it. So. You live in Minnesota or he

1:05:25

live in Minnesota. Diamond. Prince

1:05:27

said, I live inside my own Harper

1:05:29

Dame. It's. Most

1:05:35

people will be just like get out of you're

1:05:37

going to Matt Damon princes this land live in

1:05:39

some own her. As

1:05:42

a lot on his I was I back to that.

1:05:46

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1:05:48

This is a good those with what a lot

1:05:50

to get a good chance School catchment never have

1:05:52

guessed. rbs

1:05:55

of the i'm produce a quarter it's real

1:05:57

same because yeah i mean that the story

1:05:59

is It's kind of bleak if you ask

1:06:01

me, but we don't know the full story, obviously the full premise of

1:06:04

the episode, but it would have been nice to have had Prince on

1:06:06

The Simpsons at some point. It certainly

1:06:08

would have. It would be nice to have Prince still

1:06:10

with us, in all honesty. Exactly, yeah. Yeah,

1:06:12

the man just burned out rather than fight it

1:06:14

away. This was also the episode that had the

1:06:16

rerun, or when it was rerun,

1:06:18

had the George Bush saying that you should be

1:06:21

more like the Waltons and less like the Simpsons.

1:06:23

That's correct, yes. So January 30th 1992, rerun of

1:06:25

the episode featured a brief alternate opening, which was

1:06:27

written, I don't know, so it was written in

1:06:29

response to him saying that. So it was written

1:06:31

in response to a comment made by the then

1:06:33

President George W. Bush Senior three days earlier. The

1:06:35

show had previously had a feud with the President's

1:06:37

wife Barbara Bush when in the October 1st

1:06:39

1990 edition of People, she

1:06:42

called the Simpsons the dumbest thing she'd ever

1:06:44

seen. The writers decided to

1:06:46

respond by privately sending a polite letter to

1:06:48

Bush in which they perused as Marge Simpson. Bush

1:06:51

immediately sent a reply in which she apologized.

1:06:54

So on January 27th 1992,

1:06:56

George Bush made a speech during his re-election campaign which

1:06:58

included the statement, we're going to keep trying to strengthen

1:07:00

the American family, make families more like

1:07:02

the Waltons and less like the Simpsons. The writers wanted

1:07:04

to respond quickly as Barbara Bush had to

1:07:06

them. As each episode of The Simpsons takes more

1:07:09

than six months to produce, it is difficult for

1:07:11

the show to comment on current events.

1:07:14

The writers decided to add a brief response to the

1:07:16

next broadcast of The Simpsons, a rerun of Star-Graving Dad,

1:07:18

this episode on January 30th. Nancy

1:07:20

Cartwright, the voice of Bart, was called in to record

1:07:22

a line. The broadcast included a

1:07:25

new tongue-in-cheek opening, the scene from the episode

1:07:27

Simpson and Delilah, begins in the Simpsons living

1:07:29

room where the family is watching Bush's speech.

1:07:32

We are going to keep on

1:07:34

trying to strengthen the American

1:07:36

family to make American families a lot

1:07:39

more like the Waltons and a lot

1:07:41

less like the Simpsons. Hey,

1:07:43

we're just like the Waltons, we're praying for an end

1:07:45

to the depression too. And

1:07:48

That opening is featured on the Season 4 DVD box set.

1:08:00

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