0:00

tree. I'm shaded Bream, another

0:02

document dumped from Elon Musk in his

0:04

attempt to reveal what he calls censorship

0:07

by the social media giant.

0:12

It's up to these companies to

0:14

make their own decision about the content on their

0:16

platforms. It's the latest that of the so

0:19

called Twitter files seeking to show the

0:21

internal debate behind the decision

0:23

to ban president Trump's account raising

0:25

quest about how involved government

0:27

officials were in guiding decisions.

0:30

People want to know how far did this

0:32

go, that cooperation between

0:35

the FBI and social media, how

0:37

deep was that?

0:38

And This is

0:40

a day we worked toward for a long time.

0:43

ONE AMERICAN CAPTIVE BACK HOME

0:45

BUT OTHERS STILL IN RUSSIA.

0:48

AS THE U. S. SWALPS A NOTORIOUS RUSH

0:50

arm's dealer known as the Merchant of

0:52

Death. This is a Russian

0:54

play right out of their playbook. We'll

0:56

sit down with John Kirby to discuss the

0:58

decisions that went into the trade

1:00

get his take on a move to end the military's

1:02

COVID vaccine requirements. Republicans

1:04

Sunday have decided that they rather

1:07

rather fight against the health and well-being

1:09

of our troops than protecting them. And

1:11

we believe that it is a mistake.

1:13

Former secretary of state Mike Pompeo

1:15

joins us for react TO ALL OF THE TOP STORIES.

1:20

THEN NEARLY A MONTH AFTER

1:22

THE MASTERIOUS MURDER OF FOUR COLLEGE

1:24

students in Idaho, new clues, and

1:27

new tips. We'll go live to the

1:29

scene and break down the latest in an investigation

1:31

that has captured the attention of the nation.

1:34

Plus, today's announcement is reflection

1:36

of my values. Democrat Kirsten Cinemas

1:39

switches her party affiliation to

1:41

independent. Our Sunday panel discusses

1:43

how her move could shake up the senate,

1:46

all right now on Fox News

1:48

Sunday.

1:57

Hello from Fox News in Washington. Elon

1:59

Musk

1:59

USING HIS TAKE OVER OF TWITTER

2:02

TO TRY TO EXPOSE WHAT HE SAYS WAS

2:04

LIBERAL OVER REACH OVER THE PAST WEEK.

2:06

OUTSIDE JOURNALISTS WORKING WITH MASK

2:08

HAV POSTED BATCHES OF INTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS

2:11

ATTEMPTING TO SHED LIGHT ON CLAIMS. HIS PREDECESSORS

2:14

ENGAGED IN SENSERSHIP Sunday raising

2:16

questions about the powerful platform's ability

2:19

to influence heated debates. In

2:21

a moment, we will speak live with the see

2:23

strategic communications coordinator John Kirby.

2:25

And we'll get reaction from former secretary

2:27

of state Mike Pompeo. But first,

2:29

let's turn to Alexandria Hof for the

2:31

very latest Alexandria. Washington,

2:33

more documents are set to drop today. And

2:35

so far, this has been an unprecedented look

2:37

at the internal debate at Twitter over

2:39

content moderation, a showcase that

2:41

must says could help restore trust among

2:44

users going forward. this pursuit

2:46

must pass what has become known as the Twitter

2:48

files to notable RITORS WHO HAVE THEN

2:50

REBAID THEIR FINDINGS ALONG WITH SCREEN

2:52

SHOTHS. ACCORDING TO REPROTORS THE DOCUMENTS

2:54

SHOW HOW A SMALL TEAM OF HIGH ranking

2:56

Twitter executives assumed more and more

2:58

power over content leading up to

3:00

and following the twenty twenty election. Report

3:03

of Matt Tyebe writing that they were quote,

3:05

coming to believe sincerely that it was Twitter's

3:07

responsibility to control as much

3:09

as possible what people could talk about, how

3:11

often and with whom. Tell you'd be what

3:14

he says COULD BE THE PERSONAL POLITICAL

3:16

BIOUS OF STAFF IMPACTING POLICY

3:18

JUDEMENT WHICH TAYBE SAYS WAS

3:20

OFTEN MADE ON THE FLY. JOURNALISTS

3:23

BARY WHY SAYING THAT TWITTER EMPLOYEES BUILT

3:25

SECRET BLACK LESS SEEMING TO CONSIST OF

3:27

MOSTLY CONSERVATIVES TO REDUCE THEIR

3:29

VISBILITY. Now this prompted some to recall

3:31

the twenty eighteen testimony by then Twitter

3:34

Jack Dorsey.

3:36

Are you

3:36

censoring people? No. Twitter

3:40

shadow banning prominent Republicans.

3:43

It's bad. Is that true?

3:45

No. NOW

3:46

IT'S UNCLEAR WHETHER DORCY HAD CONSIDERABLE INVOLVEMENT

3:49

OR IF HE WAS CONSISTENTLY AWARE OF ONGOING

3:51

DECISION MAKING OVER CONTENT WITHIN

3:53

THE COMPANY. NOW OTHER TWEETER FILES REPORTING

3:56

THEY TOUCHED ON WHEN THE COMPANY DECIDED A SENSOR

3:58

THE NEW YORK POST STORY ON HUNTER BIDEN'S LAPTOP.

4:01

an internal note reflected on that.

4:03

With one employee writing, we blocked

4:05

the NYPD story, then we unblocked

4:07

it, but set the opposite. now we are in

4:09

a messy situation where our policy is

4:11

in shambles. Now, Tayebi also

4:13

shared that Twitter executives conducted weekly

4:16

meetings with federal officials, including the FBI,

4:18

DHS, and the office DIRECTOR OF

4:20

NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE. JAMES

4:22

FAKER WHO SERVED AS TWITORS DEFINITY

4:24

GENERAL COUNCIL WAS FIRED BY

4:26

MUSK. FAKER HAD FORMALLY served as

4:28

General Counsel for the FBI. Now critics

4:30

of the file dump have pointed out that Twitter's

4:33

own terms of service state

4:35

that they can, quote, limit this distribution

4:37

or visibility of any content

4:39

on the service. And the White House

4:41

says it is up to private companies

4:43

TO MAKE THESE KIND OF DECISIONS. Reporter:

4:47

ALEXANDREA HAF REPORTING IN WASHINGTON.

4:49

ALEXANDREA, THANK YOU. joining us now.

4:51

We are Annual John Kirby, the Coordinator for

4:53

Strategic Communications at the National Security

4:55

Council. Welcome back to Fox News Sunday, Admiral.

4:59

Thank

4:59

you, Shannon. Good to be with you this morning. Howard

5:01

Bauchner:

5:01

Okay. So a couple of weeks ago, you

5:04

had a conversation with my colleague Martha McCallum.

5:06

It was in the context of Apple what it's

5:08

doing in China. You said this,

5:10

we aren't in the business of telling private

5:12

companies how to execute their initiatives,

5:14

but it appears these revelations from inside

5:16

of Twitter. There were regular meetings between

5:18

executives there, the FBI, DHS, the

5:21

DNI. So,

5:23

you know, flagging tweets expressing their

5:25

concerns, it seems trying

5:27

to drive certain conversations. So

5:29

should or shouldn't the federal government, federal

5:31

agencies, in your words, be directing

5:34

private companies on how to execute their

5:36

initiatives. Howard Bauchner:

5:37

We aren't directing private

5:40

social media companies on how to manage

5:42

their content. These are decisions that

5:44

they have

5:44

to make as appropriate. Now

5:46

look, we obviously don't

5:49

want to see the

5:51

public square

5:52

polluted with

5:53

with hate speech and and disinformation that

5:56

that that's not that's

5:58

not a good use of the

5:59

the information environment for the American

6:02

people. but it's up to these social media

6:04

companies

6:04

to determine how they're going to manage their

6:06

content, how they are going to deliver that

6:08

content to their users. BUT

6:11

HOW MUCH PUSHBACK ABILITY DO THEY HAVE IF

6:13

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND AGENCY LIKE THE FBI

6:15

IS CALLING THEM UP AND SAYING WE DON'T LIKE THESE

6:17

SPECIFIC Tweets AND THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE ACTION

6:19

AND THEN THEY DO. IT APPEARS. Reporter:

6:22

WELL, WITHOUT

6:22

SPEAKING TO THAT HYPERTHICAL SITUATION,

6:25

AGAIN, THESE ARE PRIVATE COMPANY

6:27

Sunday they have to

6:28

make these decisions based on

6:31

their own policies, their own their own initiatives,

6:33

and we respect that.

6:35

Okay. Let's talk about the big news this week

6:37

between Victor Boots, the illegal

6:39

arms merchant who was convicted

6:41

of a number of things was on A

6:43

SENTENCE HERE IN THE U. S. AND HE WAS

6:45

TRADED FOR BRITNEY GRINNER. I

6:47

THINK ALL AMERICANS CELEBRATE AND HAVE GREAT

6:49

RELIEF THAT SHE IS HOME. BUT THERE ARE QUESTIONS

6:52

ABOUT EXACTLY WENT DOWN. ABOUT WHAT WENT

6:54

DOWN THERE. NBC INITIALLY HAD REPORTING THAT

6:56

SAID THE WHITE HOUSE WAS GIVEN A CHOICE

6:58

BETWEEN PAUL GRY Paul Whelan,

7:00

a US Marine who's being held on espionage

7:02

charges by Russia, and Britney

7:04

Greiner, or no one. They said it was

7:06

a statement. They corrected it later to say that

7:08

it was either Britney Greiner or no one. Can

7:10

you unequivocally say that

7:12

there was never an option between Paul Whelan

7:14

or Britney Greiner? Yes,

7:17

ma'am. I can. There was never a choice

7:19

posed by the Russians. Well,

7:21

hey, you give us bootback. then

7:24

you can decide whether you want Brittany

7:26

or Paul. That that was never the

7:28

arrangement. It was only Miss

7:30

Greiner for mister boot. They treat

7:32

Paul differently, Shannon, because of these

7:35

sham espionage charges. He is put in

7:37

his special category by the Russians.

7:38

and try as we might and believe

7:41

me Sunday. We did right up until the

7:43

very end. We were making efforts to try to get

7:45

both of them out. there was

7:47

just no way to get there. So it was

7:48

either make this deal now and at

7:50

least get one of them home and keep up

7:52

the efforts to to get Paul home and that's where

7:54

we are right now. I

7:56

wanna ask about Mark Fogle because he's a

7:58

US teacher. He he's taught in Russia

8:00

for, I think, more than a decade, roughly a decade

8:02

or so. he was taken into custody

8:04

in August of last year, also

8:06

coming through an airport there, had medical

8:09

marijuana with him that was prescribed

8:11

by a doctor because of injuries and surgeries that

8:13

he's been through. He's been sentenced to

8:15

fourteen years. He obviously doesn't have the

8:17

name recognition or the celebrity ABREITTY

8:19

GRIDER BUT HE'S BEEN HELD ON SIMILAR CHARGES

8:21

FOR LONGER THAN SHE HAS. WHY WASN'T HE

8:23

PART OF THIS CONVERSATION OR THIS DEAL?

8:26

There's a a limit in in this particular

8:28

case about what I can say publicly.

8:30

I I can tell you we're obviously mindfulness,

8:33

of course. but there are some constraints

8:35

here in terms of what we can say

8:37

publicly. I can just

8:39

broadly say that when it comes

8:41

to a wrong full detentions of

8:43

Americans around the world overseas, whether it's

8:45

Russia or anywhere else, we're gonna

8:47

work as hard as we can to to get them

8:49

home.

8:50

Senator Bob Mendez, Democrat

8:52

had this as a Chair of the Senate Formulations

8:54

Committee. The Russians and other regimes that take

8:56

American citizens hostage cannot

8:58

pretend that there is equivalence between the

9:00

Brittany Greiners of the world and people like

9:02

Victor Boot, the so called Merchant of Death.

9:05

Nothing could be further from the truth. And we cannot

9:07

ignore that releasing boot back into the

9:09

world is a deeply disturbing

9:11

decision. Reaction there

9:13

from one of the former DEA regional directors

9:15

who was part of putting him away, found

9:17

it astounding that he would be

9:19

released. What kind of message does this

9:21

send to our enemies, to bad actors out

9:23

there who think if they've got an American, especially with

9:25

some, with any level of celebrity, they

9:27

could get someone back like the, quote,

9:29

merchant of death.

9:32

Sadly, this is a common tactic by

9:34

mister Putin. We've seen this before.

9:37

That's why the president has put in place

9:39

additional accountability measures, visa

9:41

restrictions, other sanctions

9:43

that will give us a a little bit

9:45

more influence and ability

9:47

to affect the decision make the decision

9:49

making of of potential hostage takers.

9:52

We've also included on the State

9:54

Department website for every country you

9:56

wanna visit. now a new designation, which will

9:58

let you know what the detention

9:59

risk is if you want to

10:01

travel to a certain country, whether it's

10:03

for business or pleasure. So we urge

10:05

Americans if you're gonna travel

10:07

overseas, go look at that, so you go fully

10:09

informed. But know this,

10:10

that even if you do everything

10:13

right, and even if hospice

10:15

takers are not dissuaded. That the United

10:17

States government is gonna do everything

10:19

we can if you're wrongfully detained overseas

10:22

to get you back home that might mean

10:24

making some TOF DECISIONS, LIKE THE ONE

10:26

THE PRESIDENT JUST MADE. BUT IN THE

10:28

END, THE PRESIDENT BELIEVED IT WAS THE

10:29

RIGHT THING TO DO TO GET TO BRITAIN GRANDER

10:31

BACK HOME. AND OF COURSE, THERE'S NO EQUivalence.

10:33

She wasn't guilty of anything. It was a

10:36

sham trial to begin with. Mister Booth

10:38

obviously was guilty on very

10:39

serious charges. Well,

10:42

including charges that he would sell to terrorists

10:44

and other people that would freely go around and

10:46

happily kill Americans. So you can imagine there's

10:48

great deal of worry about

10:50

him being really back out into the mainstream. We've

10:52

seen what's happened with some of the people we've

10:54

traded in deals that have ended up back on the

10:56

battle front and in places of, you know, leadership

10:58

in terrorism organizations. OVER

11:00

ON THE HOUSE SIDE A GUY RENCH INFALLER

11:03

OF THE REPUBLICAN AND THE HOUSE

11:05

SAYS THIS BIDEN AND SECRETARY BLINKEN

11:07

BETTER PRESERVE THEIR DOCUMENTS BECAUSE THE

11:09

NEW HOUSE MAJORITY PUBLICAN MAJORITY

11:11

IS GOING TO DEMAND ANSWERS ON THIS

11:13

LATEST DISASTER. SO HOW WILL THIS

11:15

ADMINITRATION ANSWER THE QUESTIONS about

11:17

why Mark Fogle and Paul Whalen were

11:19

left behind. We

11:22

will,

11:22

of course, cooperate fully with

11:24

members of congress from most sides of the aisle

11:26

if if there's a a need and desire

11:28

for more information will be as

11:30

forthcoming as we have absolutely can be. Of

11:32

course, we we respect the role of Congress.

11:34

A couple of points on mister Boot

11:37

wasn't serving a life sentence Shannon. He was

11:39

gonna get out in twenty twenty nine. So at

11:41

some point in the not too distant

11:43

future, he would have been a free man. It

11:45

is six years earlier nobody over at the

11:47

White House is doing back flips of joy that he

11:49

is

11:49

walking in the streets, but this

11:51

was the deal we could get. Now was the moment we

11:53

could get it. We're obviously gonna look after

11:55

our national security going forward. And if Mr. Bud

11:57

has choices to make it, and if he chooses to

11:59

get

11:59

back into that line of work, then we're gonna do

12:02

everything we can to hold and

12:04

properly accountable as we have in the

12:06

past. We did a national security assessment.

12:08

We believe that whatever

12:10

risk there is WAS MANAGABLE AND

12:13

OKAY TO

12:13

MAKE THIS DEAL. ALL

12:15

RIGHT, WELL, THE WORLD WILL BE WATCHING ADROL. THANK

12:17

YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. ALWAYS GOOD TO

12:19

SEE YOU. Yes, ma'am.

12:21

Joining us

12:22

now, former secretary of state Mike Pompeo, a

12:25

Fox News contributor. Secretary, welcome

12:27

back. Thank you for joining us today.

12:29

I wanna talk to you about this report by

12:31

John Bolton, the former colleague of yours in the Trump

12:33

administration who says that there

12:35

was talk of a boot for wheel and trade ONTO

12:37

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, YOU WERE CIA DIRECTOR,

12:39

YOU WERE SECRETARY OF STATE, CERTAINLY YOU WOULD HAVE

12:41

TO KNOW ABOUT THOSE DISCUSSIONS IS

12:44

THAT TRUE? AND WHY WASN'T THE DEAL MADE?

12:46

Shannon, great to be with you. Thanks for having me

12:48

on. I I don't wanna talk about the private

12:51

conversation that we're at investable and free to say whatever.

12:53

He might like but we were very

12:55

focused on getting Paul Wheeler not every American

12:57

back home. There was there was nothing

12:59

in my time and service. that was joyous

13:01

as returning Americans home to the family. We

13:03

got three Americans out of North Korea. I got to

13:05

fly back with him. It was remarkable. We

13:07

got pastor Brunson Sunday

13:09

I'm glad Britney Greiner's back home too.

13:11

They were able to accomplish this.

13:14

But my mission was always to get every

13:16

American back, but at the same time, not create

13:18

the risk that more Americans would be taken in.

13:20

There is no doubt that not

13:22

just Vladimir Putin, but all the bad guys, the

13:24

Iranians, there's who hold Americans

13:26

in detention see that if you take a celebrity,

13:28

the chance of getting one of your bad guys back

13:30

out if American control is greater. And

13:32

I think for people out there of notoriety,

13:35

it is more likely they will be taken

13:37

hostage today. THAT IS NOT A GOOD POLICY.

13:39

Reporter: JOHN

13:40

BOLTON TELLING THE TRUTH. I

13:42

DON'T

13:42

WANT TO COMMENT ON OUR INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS.

13:45

We were working hard on each of the

13:47

cases, including Paul Whelan's case

13:49

during my time in service, Sunday we were talking with

13:51

the Russians at multiple levers, our ambassador

13:53

on the ground there in Russia, John Sullivan was

13:55

working with him. There were lots of discussions

13:57

about what the right mechanism forward

13:59

was, but the

13:59

Trump administration was always very

14:02

clear. We work in the trade bad guys for

14:04

celebrities because it creates the wrong incentives for

14:06

the bad guys as we go forward. It's not

14:08

good for American national security. It's not good

14:10

for people. who are traveling across the world.

14:13

Okay. Paul

14:14

Whelan's brother David is speaking out. He

14:16

says he's very happy for Brittany Greiner and her

14:18

loved ones, but their family is devastated.

14:20

He says We should think about taking,

14:22

quote, more law breaking, Kremlin

14:25

connected Russians into custody. It said and

14:27

he said, it's not like there aren't plenty of

14:29

them around the world. NOW DOES

14:31

THAT PUT US ON THEIR LEVEL IF WE ARE

14:33

GOING TO START ROPING IN THEIR CITIZENS

14:36

IN ORDER TO FACILITIZE THESE TRADES OR

14:38

IS THAT A FAIR STRATEGY?

14:40

I could

14:40

only imagine what the Wheelman family

14:42

is experiencing today. I I pray for that. I pray

14:44

for Paul to get home just as quickly as we

14:47

can. but we we can't we can't engage in

14:49

behaviors like there where we pull people

14:51

like like Brittany Greiner who who may have

14:53

broken some Russian law. I don't know. but

14:55

who certainly didn't do anything that warranted

14:57

the the conviction that they brought upon here with

14:59

pure politics, pure pure

15:01

extortion on behalf of Vladimir Putin.

15:03

We shouldn't engage in that. We should take down,

15:05

bring into our custody folks like Victor Boot,

15:07

who'd broken US law, and who put

15:10

American lives at risk with his actions,

15:12

but we shouldn't be engaged in the hostage

15:14

taking that we see take place around the world. We're a

15:16

nation of laws. We're a nation that the constitution

15:18

governs. This matters when we get it right, we'll

15:20

not only have the moral high ground, WE'LL KEEP

15:22

MORE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAFE AS WELL, Shannon.

15:24

Ian: AND THERE'S

15:25

STILL A LOT OF NAMES Sunday PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD THAT

15:27

I KNOW THAT YOU'VE WORKED ON AND THAT THIS ADMINITRATION

15:29

IS WORKING ON AS WELL, WE'LL KEEP TRACK OF THOSE. I

15:32

wanna look domestically now. The

15:34

House has passed the National Defense Authorization Act.

15:36

And one of the key measures they insisted on

15:38

Republicans did was repealing the vote's mandate.

15:41

IN THAT MEASURE IT'S GOT TO GO OVER TO THE SENATE NOW. THE WASHINGTON

15:43

POST REPORTED THIS WAY ROLE BACK OF COVID

15:45

VACCINE MANDATE MET WITH FURR.

15:48

PENAGON. NOW THE PEACE, QUOTE, AN Sunday

15:50

OFFICER, HE SAYS THIS MAKES HIM LOOK LIKE A CLOUD. IT

15:52

UNDERMINES HIS CREDIBILITY TO GO BEFORE

15:54

HIS MEN AND WOMEN AND SAY You

15:56

gotta follow me on this very unpopular command

15:58

that I'm gonna give you. You understand

16:00

military leadership and how

16:02

important that is, how do you respond to

16:04

those concerns? Shannon,

16:05

look look what they did with this vaccine mandate. They

16:07

took this vaccine that that

16:10

we now know that you you can't get to

16:12

zero. The Chinese can't get to zero. We couldn't get to zero

16:14

in our schools. and they put this

16:16

burden on the American soldiers, American

16:18

sailors, American airmen that didn't

16:20

make sense for the forces, and it drove

16:22

people who were protecting us people

16:24

who'd raised their right hand to to go to

16:26

recruiting station, to be part of the American

16:28

Air Force and put it on these young men

16:30

and women. It was an enormous mistake.

16:32

I'm glad that the Republicans have now, it

16:34

appears, managed to get this out of

16:36

US law, but there's a lot more to do. We

16:38

should go back and fix the wrongs that have were

16:40

done to people who refused the vaccine previously.

16:42

The military should focus on the

16:44

things that matter most. They're they're missing

16:46

recruitment goals. It's staggering number Shannon,

16:48

this is bad for America. And it's because they're

16:50

foisting some of these progressive woke

16:52

ideologies into our military. not

16:55

focusing on the mission, which is deter the

16:57

bad guys. And there are

16:58

plenty of them out there. Let's talk about China.

17:01

They have been on the radar FOR A LONG TIME,

17:03

CERTAINLY WERE DURING YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE TRUMP

17:05

ADMINISTRATION THEY ARE NOW. PRESIDENT GEE

17:07

POST COVID AT LEAST WHATEVER

17:09

VERSION THEY HAVE OF POST COVID THERE

17:11

IN CHINA. is definitely out there

17:13

making the rounds. He's meeting with leaders, having

17:15

conversations, Germany, Egypt. He

17:17

was out in Saudi Arabia this week. The

17:19

headline from foreign policy is

17:21

Xi's Saudi visit shows Riyadh's monogamous

17:23

marriage to Washington is over.

17:25

How concerned are you about him developing

17:27

these relationships with places like

17:30

the Saudis, which obviously we

17:32

have a lot of things we could discuss with

17:34

respect to their relationship with the US. But

17:36

g wants to, it seems hornet

17:38

on that.

17:39

Shannon, when you won't be partners with

17:42

your friends and your allies and you

17:44

offended them and you

17:46

hopefully, won't do anything to push back against your adversaries

17:48

like Xi Jinping. You see exactly

17:50

this kind of hedging behavior. Shannon, we

17:52

for the first time. We we Sunday

17:55

forty years of American policy and

17:57

recognized that the Chinese Communist Party

17:59

was the singular,

17:59

greatest external threat to the United

18:02

States of America. AND WHEN WE DID THAT, OUR

18:04

FRIENDS OF PARTNERS AROUND THE WORLD JOINED ALONG WITH

18:06

US AND THE QUOD IN SOUTH East Asia, OUR

18:08

PARTNERIES IN EUROPE ALL CAME TO SEE IT THE

18:10

SAME WAY This administration came in.

18:12

They went soft on China. They called the

18:14

Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. They said the leader was a

18:16

pariah. And when you do those things, you

18:18

will hurt the American people all across this country and what you

18:20

saw happen in the Sunday this

18:22

week is a direct result of bad

18:24

American policy. You gotta stick with

18:26

your friends you gotta stay with your

18:28

partners and you must put back against your answers

18:30

or your friends will begin to

18:32

hedge. Right? They'll they'll go make

18:34

friendships to protect THEMSELVES IF THEY CAN'T COUNT ON

18:36

AMERICA TO BE A GOOD PARTNER AND FRIEND AROUND THE

18:38

WORLD. WELL, AND WE HAVE

18:39

TALKED ABOUT HOW COMPLICATED THAT

18:42

FRIENCHIP IS AND REAL CONCERNS THAT THERE

18:44

ARE ABOUT Saudi HUMAN RIGHTS

18:46

ABUSES. WE CAN CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT I

18:48

WANT TO MAKE SURE TO HIT A COUPLE OF

18:50

DOMESTIC ISSUES WITH YOU. You're apparently in a

18:52

thing with Randy Weingarten, the

18:54

president of the American Federation of Teachers. She

18:56

says that you called her the most dangerous

18:58

person in the world then writes this in the New

19:00

York Post. What's truly outrageous

19:02

are the other things he said calling what

19:04

educators do, quote, filth, and

19:06

quote, propaganda, and in doing so

19:08

he per ANDSULTED THE NATION BUILDERS

19:10

OF THE VERY AMERICAN DEMOCRACY

19:12

HE CLAIMS TO CHARISH. SHE SAYS SHE

19:14

WON'T ABATE YOU BUT SHE'LL INVITE YOU TO COME VISIT SCHOOLS WITH

19:16

HER. WILL YOU GO? happy to go to a

19:18

school whether then we should immediately head to the

19:20

debate stage to share with the American people

19:22

what the teachers unions are doing to our

19:25

kids. She added it's a

19:27

disaster. She she wanted to keep the schools closed

19:29

until we got to zero COVID. She

19:31

said that if we didn't teach our

19:33

kids, our little kids, about sex in the schools

19:35

that this was gonna create a civil war in

19:37

America. She she's had

19:39

done personal attacks on me and

19:41

on so many others. simply

19:43

want our kids to learn to read, to

19:45

write, to do, to be creative

19:47

to think logically. We don't want

19:49

to foist woke ideology into

19:51

our schools. She the teachers unions have now undermined

19:54

American education. I called her

19:56

out for that, and we ought to have this

19:58

debate. Should do no need to

20:00

attack me, there's no need to attack

20:02

her. Let's talk about what we're gonna teach our kids,

20:04

why America is a great country, and

20:06

we shouldn't teach in our schools that it is a

20:08

racist nation happy to have that debate and

20:10

happy to tour school. My son went to public

20:12

school, my wife, like, Wichita State graduate. I'm

20:14

a product of public education. Happy

20:16

to go to a school, be with her, and then

20:18

share with the American people why it is with the teachers

20:20

unions and Randy Weingarten in particular

20:22

are doing to our kids. Okay.

20:24

So we've

20:25

brokered the school visit. And if you guys wanted

20:27

to bid afterwards, we were happy to host that as

20:29

well. Okay. You tweeted this on Thursday.

20:31

As I've said before,

20:33

I'M TIRED OF LOSING. SO OUR

20:35

MOST REPUBLICANS, IT'S PAST TIME TO

20:37

SHOW VOTERS THAT WE'RE READY TO LEAVE. THIS COMES

20:39

AFTER THE LOSS OF THE GEORGIA

20:42

a race that was ongoing. Who do you blame

20:44

for the losses? And are you raising your hand

20:46

to be the new leader of the Republicans

20:48

heading into twenty four? Well,

20:50

I

20:50

hope every conservative will wanna

20:53

be leading what is the grand old

20:55

party, the GOP. We

20:57

lost too many races. We

20:59

had candidates that wouldn't defend the things that mattered most.

21:01

The candidates that one were serious. They

21:03

were thoughtful. They articulated a vision for

21:05

taking America forward. They didn't focus on

21:08

the past. they they they they

21:10

defended the things that matter most, the things that

21:12

about America that are worth fighting for. And

21:14

when our candidates did that they

21:16

won when they unable to do when they when they talked about

21:18

where we're looking ideas,

21:20

they almost always lost. And

21:22

I'm tired of losing. I

21:25

wish we had control of the United States Senate, which we had

21:27

a president in the White House. I'm counting on us

21:29

getting both of those back in twenty twenty four,

21:31

and I'm certainly gonna be around to do my

21:33

part to try and help make sure that we

21:35

get that this isn't, this isn't liberal or

21:37

conservative, this is about America, and we get

21:39

it right. So

21:40

about that, you're doing your part or that you will

21:43

be as part twenty four. You visited all the right

21:45

states. You've got a book out. You are

21:47

speaking all around the country.

21:49

When will you announce your intentions for twenty

21:51

twenty four? Oh, Shannon,

21:52

I I don't know. We're still

21:54

thinking our way. We so it's gonna be my wife. We're

21:56

thinking our way through this trying to figure out. taken

21:59

Yeah. I know the clock is ticking,

22:01

but we we have to make sure we get

22:03

this right for America. It's not about the

22:05

Pompeo's. And this is about getting this right for the country.

22:07

We gotta make sure we do that. AND I'M

22:09

CONFIDENT THAT THE COUNTRY WILL GET IT RIGHT COME twenty

22:11

twenty four. WHAT'S YOUR

22:12

TIME LINE?

22:14

SOME TIME IN THE SPRING CHANNA AND YOU'LL

22:16

KNOW. on

22:17

Sunday, right here

22:18

on Fox News Sunday. Alright. Mister

22:21

Secretary, thank you for joining us. Thank you, ma'am. Have

22:23

a good morning. YOU TOO.

22:24

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22:28

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dot com. a lot of time

23:00

thinking about how to get one over on the

23:02

other party. It's just not what I'm interested in.

23:04

Not what I'm interested

23:04

in all. She has voted with the president

23:07

ninety three percent of the time. And so we

23:09

think that partnership will Reporter:

23:11

SENATOR

23:12

KIRISTEN CINEMO, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT SHE

23:15

SAYS SHE'S LEAVING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO BE

23:17

COME AND INDEPENDENT and the

23:19

White House saying it's confident the change

23:21

will not hurt the president's agenda.

23:23

Time now for a Sunday group, former chief of

23:25

staff for vice president Mike Pence, Mark

23:27

short. USA TODAY WHITE HOUSE correspondent Francesca

23:30

Chambers and Fox News senior

23:32

political analyst, Juan Williams. Welcome to

23:34

all of you. Let's

23:36

start there. Reaction from senate

23:38

majority leader Chuck Schumer, who will stay senate

23:40

majority leader, he says this. We will

23:42

maintain our new majority on committees,

23:44

exercise our subpoena power. AND BE ABLE

23:46

TO CLEAR NOMINIES WITHOUT DIS CHARGED VOTES.

23:48

MARQ, WHAT'S THE PRACTICAL IMPLICATION

23:50

OF CINEMOUS CHANGE? Well,

23:52

Shannon, I think the reality is that she's gone from the green party

23:54

when she served an Arizona state legislature to a

23:57

Democrat. It's now an independent.

23:59

So she's getting warmer, but I

24:01

think the reality is as you the press secretary

24:03

say, she's voted with the Biden administration roughly

24:05

ninety five percent of the time and she recognizes

24:08

that she would have a difficult time in a Democrat

24:10

primary now. Question will be, does she

24:12

continue to move and show in the next two

24:14

years in more allegiance with the Republican Party,

24:16

which I think she will. I don't know if

24:18

that calculation will work out as well because I think

24:20

Republicans will see as an opportunity to pick up a

24:22

seat. So I think you'll see

24:24

legislatively. Republicans will have a

24:26

block in the House to

24:28

prevent any more of liberal liberal

24:30

Democrat legislation. The question will be on

24:32

confirmations. Does she break with the Biden

24:34

administration on some of their high

24:36

profile confirmations to show more of our independence in the

24:38

next two years. I think that's what we should be watching.

24:40

I think you'll see here align with Republicans

24:42

more over this time period. Okay.

24:44

So in

24:45

the meantime, we've got this lame duck situation

24:47

in which Democrats still control the house in

24:49

the senate. They've got to get funding done because guess

24:52

what? Friday, I think is the day we've

24:54

run out of money here in the federal

24:56

government. This seems to happen for Francesca before the

24:58

holidays nearly every year.

25:00

Reuters reports it this way. It says AND U. S. CONGRESS AIMED

25:02

TO PRESSURE REPUBLICANS WITH GOAT

25:04

ALONE FUNDING BILL.

25:07

BEFORE THE HOUSE HAS CHANGED POWER AT LEAST THE

25:09

HOUSE SIDE, JUSTIN, THEY STILL GOT SOME LAND DUCK

25:11

FIGHTS TO GET ON, INCLUDING HOW TO PAY FOR

25:13

EVERYTHING AROUND HERE.

25:14

Adrienne: AND DEMOCRATS

25:16

ARE EXPECTED TO PUT FORWARD A PEACE OF

25:18

LEG ISLATION THAT THEY HOPE CAN GAIN

25:20

BIPARTISAN SUPPORT THAT WOULD FUND

25:22

THE GOVERNMENT FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

25:25

BUT AT THE SAME TIME AS YOU

25:27

JUST NOTED HAPPENS WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THEY HAVE

25:29

THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE.

25:31

THERE'S NO APPETITE FOR A GOVERNMENT

25:33

SHUTDOWN I'M TOLD BY PEOPLE

25:35

CLOSE TO TO WHAT YOU COULD

25:37

SEE IS A ONE WEEK

25:39

CONTINUING RESOLUTION IN A

25:41

SENSE TO CONTINUE FUNDING THE

25:43

GOVERNMENT AT current levels for a week so that they can continue to

25:45

negotiate a deal. But as you were saying,

25:47

Democrats, including in the White House, are

25:49

really trying to put the squeeze on Republicans

25:51

right now by saying that if

25:53

you do continue to fund the government at

25:55

the current levels, that would mean less

25:57

money for the Department of Defense, veteran's

25:59

affairs. For the

26:00

for the chips bill, AND A WHOLE BUNCH

26:02

OF OTHER THINGS THAT THEY HOPE THAT REPUBLICANS WILL

26:04

CONSIDER PRIORITIES AND WANT TO COME

26:06

TOGETHER WITH THEM ON A LONGER TERM

26:08

SPENDING RESOLUTION. SO

26:10

DEMOCRATS WANT TO GO THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR WHICH WOULD END SEPTEMBER

26:12

thirty OF twenty twenty three. ONE

26:15

REPUBLICANS SAY WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD WE EVER

26:17

AGREE TO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO AT

26:19

LEAST HAVE house in January, so

26:21

no. We're not gonna vote for

26:23

these Democrats' strategies

26:25

for their priorities because it don't align

26:27

align with ours. you're gonna get maybe a couple

26:29

weeks of money we do this every

26:32

year? Well, I

26:33

think we've got a situation here, Shannon,

26:35

where Republicans really don't want

26:38

this fight I THINK THEY ARE PRESSURED AGAIN

26:40

TO TRY TO IMPOSE SOME LIMITS

26:42

ON SPENDING, BUT WHERE IS THE LIMIT?

26:45

FROM THE DEMOCRATS POINT OF

26:47

YOU, IT'S the opportunity imposed cuts

26:49

on Social Security and Medicare Sunday

26:51

popular with the American people.

26:53

If you think back to

26:55

twenty eleven in the Obama years, even in the

26:57

Trump years, what you see

26:59

is that when Republicans pushed on

27:01

this very issue, they

27:04

had to back off. That the public

27:06

response was so negative. It had

27:08

an impact on the economy.

27:10

The nation's credit rating was down GREATED

27:12

IN ONE CASE AND IT BECOMES A

27:15

FIGHT OVER SOCIAL SAFETY NET

27:17

SPENDING MEDICARE AND

27:19

SOCIAL SECURITY and the

27:21

Republicans just don't win those

27:23

fights. There are unnecessary fights. Kevin

27:25

McCarthy at the moment is

27:27

having to respond to the

27:29

fiscal talks in order to

27:31

try to win control to

27:33

become speaker of the house, but he

27:35

doesn't really want to have to have

27:37

his caucus, you know, be responsible for

27:39

getting his Calkers to back a

27:41

spending bill next year. It's a tough

27:43

fight for Republicans and Democrats are

27:45

anxious to have it. and

27:47

hurting the cats no matter who you are a

27:49

speaker, whether this republican or democrat is always the

27:51

toughest part of the job. Okay. Let's turn to Twitter

27:53

because we've had another round OF

27:55

TWITTER DOMPS OF INTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS. MORE OF THAT IS

27:57

COMING TODAY. THE NEW YORK POST RAISES

27:59

THIS

27:59

ISSUE WHETHER JAC DORCY

28:01

WHEN HE TESTIFIED BEFORE CONGRESS

28:04

told some stories that maybe weren't

28:05

true. They quote Jonathan Turley,

28:08

professor Waugh professor, he says on its face, Dorsey

28:10

has vulnerability after the

28:12

second release. DOORSUVA WAS

28:14

REPEATEDLY ASKED ABOUT SENSARING AND SHADOW

28:16

BANNING WHICH HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED

28:18

IN THESE FILES Franchesca, do you

28:21

foresee more hearings on the hill and

28:23

more Twitter executives called in to give an

28:25

accounting for something that we

28:27

now have a little bit more internal

28:29

information about?

28:32

Well,

28:32

Kevin McCarthy has already signaled

28:34

that they would be focused on in the

28:36

new Republican majority not only on

28:39

big tech as they say, but

28:41

also on investigating the Biden

28:44

administration over a number of things.

28:46

Investigators he he listed ALL

28:48

THE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO FOCUS ON. WHEN IT

28:50

DOES COME TO TECK COMPANIES, THOUGH, THIS

28:52

IS POTENTIALLY AN AREA WHERE YOU MIGHT

28:54

SEE SOME DEMOCRATIC PORT IN GENERAL

28:57

FOR INVESTIGATION BECAUSE THEY CERTAINLY

28:59

HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT TWITER. DIFFERENT

29:01

QUESTIONS ABOUT TWITER THAN THE ONCE THAT

29:03

REPUBLICANS BUT THEY DO HAVE QUESTIONS OF THEIR OWN THAT THEY HAVE

29:05

WRITTEN

29:05

INTO THE COMPANY ABOUT. Adrienne: AND

29:08

SO, ONE, WHAT ABOUT THIS? I

29:10

MEAN, YOU HEARD THESE CONVERSATIONS IN THE REPORTING

29:12

WE HAD EARLIER ABOUT THE FBI,

29:14

ABOUT DHS, ABOUT DNI, HAVING

29:16

WEEKLY MEETINGS AND CONVERSATIONS, FLAGGING THINGS

29:18

THEY DIDN'T LIKE. I MEET, IT'S A PRIME ACTOR,

29:20

IT'S A PRIVATE COMPANY, BUT DID THEY BECOME A

29:22

STATE ACTOR WHEN THEY'RE BEING DIRECTED BY THE FEDERAL

29:24

GOVERNMENT TO DO THINGS THAT

29:26

INFLUENCE THEIR COMPANY POLICY IN THE WAY

29:28

THEY MEET IT OUT. Well, I

29:30

think we have

29:31

a national interest in so many things, but

29:33

obviously, I would say, you know, just as a

29:35

prime example, terrorism, you don't

29:38

want terrorists controlling messaging

29:40

and disinformation. But it goes beyond

29:42

that into hate speech and a like. But, you

29:44

know, I think we're lost in the weeds on this

29:46

one, Shannon, because I think this is not so much a

29:49

political story, although, you know, it triggers

29:51

all the talk about conspiracies between

29:53

big government and big corporations.

29:55

I think this is an eco anomics story

29:57

in which Elon Musk paid too much for

29:59

Twitter. And now he's trying to

30:01

stir up controversy to develop

30:03

a new audience He's worried about the fact that

30:05

with the increase of hate speech, you

30:07

see advertisers fleeing. So

30:10

he's busy right now trying to say to

30:12

people he's the victim. I

30:14

wanna make sure that

30:14

we get Mark in here too because there's a lot to

30:17

respond there. It looks like what

30:19

we've seen so far, the quote unquote, shadow

30:21

banning, the visibility issues, primarily

30:24

involved, conservative, conservative commentators,

30:26

there could be much more to come. There could be some that

30:28

targets the left we're waiting to see,

30:30

but Mark your quick observation

30:32

of what we've seen so far.

30:32

Well, Shannon, I think the reality is is not

30:35

surprised to many Americans that Big Tech is

30:37

left biased. And I think

30:39

that that's playing out for the American people. Thanks to Elon Musk.

30:41

I've not really heard Democrats before be

30:43

concerned about a isn't paying too much for

30:45

a company, but I'm grateful that Elon

30:48

Elon Musk is now the CEO of Twitter.

30:50

But I think the bigger issue here is why isn't

30:52

the mainstream media focused on the

30:54

reality less about the drug scandals and the sex scandal Sunday

30:56

Biden. But when Joe Biden was vice president,

30:58

I say it's Hunter Biden was getting tens and

31:00

tens of thousand dollars every month

31:03

from the communist and Ukraine government where

31:05

Joe Biden was, that was his portfolio in Ukraine.

31:07

Why are the mainstream media covering that?

31:10

WELL, I

31:11

THINK THAT WE WILL BE WHEN IT IS

31:13

FRONT CENTRE ON HOUSE HEARINGS, PROBABLY

31:15

STARTING IN January OF twenty twenty three.

31:18

we'll cover it as we know all of you will as well. Panel,

31:20

thank you very much. We'll see you next Sunday.

31:22

Thank you,

31:23

Jackson. The push

31:24

for answers and the mysterious murders

31:27

of four college students in Idaho. We're gonna

31:29

sit down with two crime experts

31:31

to discuss why we now seem to have more

31:33

questions and answers nearly a month.

31:36

after this horrific crime.

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32:00

IT'S

32:02

A STORY THAT'S CAPTURED THE ATTENTION OF THE NATION

32:04

FOR UNIVERSITY OF Idaho STUDENTS

32:06

STABBED TO DEATH IN THEIR OFF Campus

32:08

HOUSE NEARLY A MONTH AGO. DESPITE

32:11

DOZENS OF FBI agents AND STATE POLICE

32:13

ON THE CASE, INVESTIGATORS HAVE YET

32:15

TO IDENTIFY A SUSPECT. IN A MOMENT, We'll

32:17

sit down with former FBI supervisory

32:20

special agent James Gagliano Sunday former

32:22

DC police detective Ted Williams. But

32:24

first, we turned to elect IS MCCATIMS LIVE

32:26

IN MOSCO, IDAHAL, WITH THE LATEST ON

32:28

THE CASE.

32:32

Reporter: Shannon, INVESTIGATORS ARE DOING EVERYTHING

32:34

THEY CAN TO TRACK DOWN THE killer

32:36

in this situation and so many

32:38

people in this community are still on edge as

32:40

they just put out another

32:42

alert to travel in groups and be

32:44

vigilant as HILLERS NOT BARS. THIS

32:46

MORNING THE

32:47

SMALL AND USUALLY CITY

32:49

OF MOSCO, Idaho, SITS

32:51

IN THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT. AS

32:54

POLICE CONTINUE THE SEARCH FOR A

32:56

KILLER WHO MURDERED THESE FOUR

32:58

UNIVERSITY OF IDO STUDENTS NOW

33:00

A MONTH IN AND NO

33:02

ARRESS. THOUGH THE CASE REMAINS THE

33:04

TOP PRIORITY FOR MOSSCO POLICE CHIEF JAMES

33:06

FRY

33:06

THIS CASE IS NOT GOING COLLING COLD. Reporter:

33:08

INVESTIGATORS SAY THAT KAYLE GUMSAVACE, MATTY

33:11

MOGEN, ZANNAKURNODAL AND ETHIN

33:13

CHAIPEN WERE ALL STAPPED TO

33:16

DEATH. INSIDE OF THIS SIX

33:18

BEDROOM OFF CAMPUS HOME WHILE THEY WERE

33:20

ASLEEP. THE THREE GIRLS WERE

33:22

ROOMATES, JAPAN WHO WAS DATING

33:24

CERNODAL WAS SLEEPING OVER. INVESTIGATORS SAY THE

33:26

KILLER ATTACKED THE COLLEGE STUDENTS

33:28

WITH A LARGE KNIFE. THEN

33:30

TUCK OFF INTO THE NIGHT. WE ARE LOOKING FOR

33:32

A FIXED BLADE KNIFE. THE NIGHT

33:33

STARTED OFF LIKE IT WOULD FOR MANY

33:36

STUDENTS. POLICE SAY KAYLIE MATTY WENT TO A

33:38

LOCAL BAR AND THEN STOPPED AT THIS

33:40

FOOT TRUCK FOR A BITE E.

33:42

SPOTED HERE ON THE TRUCK'S LIVESTREAM.

33:44

BACK HOME JUST BEFORE TWO AM.

33:46

Reporter: AROUND THAT SAME TIME INVESTIGATORS

33:48

SAY ETHAN AND ZANA HAD

33:51

JUST NOT BACK PARTY. THEIR

33:53

BODIES FOUND AROUND FIVE

33:55

HOURS LATER AFTER A nine

33:57

eleven CALL WAS MADE from one

33:59

of the cellphones of the

33:59

two surviving roommates. Police

34:02

rushing in to find the gruesome

34:05

discovery. So how personal is this case

34:07

for you? I'm a

34:07

dad, with

34:08

daughters.

34:09

And that's

34:11

tough. You know you

34:12

know you know we're

34:14

human. we don't we don't

34:16

go to these and just

34:18

turn

34:18

it off. It affects us.

34:22

But WE

34:23

HAVE A JOB TO

34:24

DO. Reporter: THE FAMILIES LEFT WITH MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS. WE JUST HAVE

34:26

NO INFORMATION AS FAMILY AND IT'S

34:29

Sunday TOUGH THEY AFTER DAY.

34:31

Reporter: WITH NO ARREST, THE CASE STILL ACTIVE. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE

34:34

HAS BEEN CLEARED RIGHT NOW, DOES THAT MEAN

34:36

THEY MIGHT BE

34:38

RE INTERVIEWED?

34:38

we've actually reinterviewed people

34:41

two and three times because we'll

34:43

get tips or we'll get information that

34:45

we need to verify again. Shannon, right

34:46

now, police are working to track down the driver or person or persons

34:49

who are in this White Hyundai a launcher that you're

34:51

looking at. It's a stock photo or an example

34:53

of the make and model. They're TRYING

34:55

TO LOOK FOR, BUT IT'S A WHITE HUNDAY Sunday, two

34:58

thousand eleven TO two thousand thirteen MODEL.

35:00

THEY BELIEVE THE PEOPLE IN THAT CAR COULD

35:02

HAVE VITAL INFORMATION IN THIS INVESTIGATION, ASKING THEM TO

35:04

PLEASE COME FORWARD TO HELP CLOSE THE

35:06

CASE. JANAN? ALL RIGHT,

35:09

A LexIS McAdams' porting from Moscow,

35:11

Idaho. Alexis, thank you very much. Joining us now retired

35:14

FBI special agent James Gagliano and

35:16

former DC police detective

35:18

Ted Williams Gentlemen,

35:20

welcome. I wanna go over a little bit of what we've heard

35:22

from the police. The timeline they've given us, this

35:24

one thing jumped out at me. This is

35:26

from the police department. They say on

35:29

November third teeth. surviving roommates summoned

35:32

friends to the residents because they believed one of

35:34

the second floor victims had passed out and was

35:36

not waking up. At eleven

35:38

fifty eight AM, that 911 call

35:40

went in requesting aid for an

35:42

unconscious person.

35:44

Ted, THIS SEEMS STRANGED TO ME THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT TWO OF THE SURPRIVING

35:46

REMAITS WHO HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY RULED OUT

35:48

INNOCENT NOT INVOLVED WITH THE CRIME BY POLICE

35:52

that they were at least close enough to one of these girls that they

35:54

thought they were unconscious. How would they have not seen

35:56

the the stab wounds, the blood,

36:00

enough TO CALL NYMEL ONE AND SAY WE'VE JUST GOT SOMEONE HERE UNCONCTIOUS. THAT

36:02

SEEMS STRANGED TO ME.

36:04

Reporter: SCENNA, IT'S

36:05

ALSO STRANGED TO ME

36:08

BECAUSE YOU'RE absolutely right

36:10

from what we've been told by

36:12

the medical examiner out

36:14

there. This was a

36:16

very gory

36:18

of blood splattered scene,

36:20

and you would have thought that

36:23

the two roommates would have

36:25

even during the night

36:27

heard seen something. But

36:30

for them to call

36:33

their friends over before

36:36

law enforcement got involved

36:38

is certainly something that I'm

36:40

sure law

36:42

enforcement has it has been part of the their

36:44

investigation. But it is

36:46

strange, very

36:48

strange.

36:49

SO THEY ALSO HAVE SAID THAT WE HAVE NOT CHANGED OUR

36:51

BELIEF THAT THE MURDERS WERE A TARGETED

36:54

ATTACK. ARight JAMES. FBI HAS BEEN

36:56

BROUGHT IN, I THINK, forty THEY'VE

36:58

ALSO GOT ANALISTS. WE HAVE SCORES OF LOCAL

37:00

DETECTIVE STATE POLICE THERE IN Idaho

37:02

as WELL. WHAT DID THEY BRING

37:04

IN THESE FEDERAL AUTHORITIES that can

37:07

help the local officials. I mean, they were brought in the first week. It

37:09

was clear that they were going to need

37:11

some additional assistance.

37:14

Shannon, in this case, has captured

37:16

the national attention. And and for

37:18

the right reasons, you've got four

37:22

young kids that are going to school at the University of Idaho. They

37:24

live in the northernmost region of

37:26

Idaho, a place that's that's

37:28

idyllic. It's it's It's

37:30

remote. It it's the it stuns

37:32

the senses. And look,

37:34

so does that the the

37:36

viewers understand The FBI doesn't typically investigate

37:38

murder cases. Those are cases that Ted and

37:40

detectives and local police

37:42

officers handle. The

37:44

FBI investigates four thousand five hundred federal

37:46

violations. Only when they are

37:48

asked to come in on a case like

37:52

this, where I think I'm stunned, and I share that feeling with Ted that

37:54

with all the with with all the

37:56

attention that's been put out there, with

37:58

all the information that's been put

37:59

out there, with all

38:02

of the physical evidence that

38:04

had to been found at the crime scene. And

38:06

look, you know, Shannon, there are no perfect

38:08

crimes anymore. Sunday the bottom

38:10

line is there has to be a lead.

38:12

There's been six thousand tips called

38:14

into the national tip line. I

38:16

believe I believe THEY'RE GOING TO CATCH

38:18

THIS GUY OR THIS PERSON OR PERSON'S

38:20

VERY SOON? SO

38:22

THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FRENDSIX.

38:24

WE KNOW week we saw that a number of things

38:26

were being taken from the house that were given

38:28

back to families. Authorities have said we know

38:30

how important it is to them to get some

38:32

of these items back, but another former FBI

38:34

Agent Jonathan Gillum told Fox News he was worried about that. He said

38:37

crime scenes hold onto evidence and sometimes

38:39

you don't realize in a case like that

38:41

until you find a subject.

38:44

Now that crime scene has been tainted because they have

38:47

removed things. Ted, you've been there. What what do

38:49

you make of these decisions? do

38:52

you think that, you know, the forensics have been corrupted in any

38:56

way? You know, I'm deeply

38:57

concerned about

39:00

the forensics that has been

39:02

gathered gathered at this crime

39:04

scene. You have the

39:06

crime scene. You process

39:08

that crime

39:10

scene. This is what they have done. But what

39:12

is concerning to me initially was

39:14

that the students called

39:18

over individuals other than

39:20

law enforcement initially the next

39:22

day when they found

39:24

these bodies. And I

39:27

believe that that could have led to some

39:29

contamination of the crime

39:31

scene. James is

39:34

absolutely right. I do believe that this will

39:36

be settled, settled, resolved.

39:40

I believe that

39:42

you're going to forensics are gonna

39:44

be to drive in force. Look,

39:46

when you kill somebody off, somebody's

39:50

under these circumstances, you

39:52

leave a lot of trace evidence.

39:54

Oh, this isn't like where

39:58

something is solved right away. So what we

40:00

have to do, I think, is be very patient

40:02

here and let them continue

40:05

meeting law enforcement. TO PROCESS

40:08

THIS INVESTIGATION AND BRING

40:10

SOMEONE TO JUSTICE. Reporter: KATHY'S

40:12

PARENTS

40:12

HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.

40:15

THEY HAVE SPOKEN VOCALLY THEY SAY THEY

40:17

HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE

40:19

VERY HARD WORKING. THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN, BUT

40:21

THEY'RE FRUSTRATED TOO. THEY FEEL

40:23

LIKE KAYleigh'S MOTHER HAS

40:25

SAID THAT SHE LIKE SOMEBODY WAS CLEARED. POTENTIALLY SOME PEOPLE WERE

40:27

CLEARED TOO QUICKLY Sunday HER FATHER SAID THAT

40:30

THERE ARE INJURIES TO THE VIRUS VICTIMS

40:32

THAT DON'T MATCH. JAMES QUICKLY

40:34

DOES THAT tell you anything

40:36

about whether this was

40:38

targeted at one person, others got caught up

40:40

in it. What does it say to you that the

40:42

injuries are

40:44

so different? Yeah. I

40:44

think Shannon, I think Ted will agree with me. You have to follow the

40:46

evidence, bereft of fear or favor.

40:48

You can't have a predisposed notion

40:50

of what happens. You follow THE

40:54

EVIDENCE AND THERE'S A LOT OF IT HERE. SO I THINK

40:56

WE'RE GOING TO GET A RESOLUTION

40:58

SOMETIMES SOON. Adrienne: OKAY,

41:00

JAMES

41:00

AND TED, WE VERY MUCH APPREATURE

41:02

Virtis. Thank you. We will stay on this case. Up next, we're gonna bring

41:04

in a friend

41:05

of the show. Brian Kill Me to discuss one

41:07

of the biggest talkers of

41:10

the week. joins us

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41:12

If he's up, thanks.

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Abraham

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Lincoln at Frederick Douglass. Two

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backgrounds, but were able to put

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their disagreements aside to accomplish

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a common goal. THAT STORY IS CRONICALED IN THE BEST SELLING NOVEL, THE

41:45

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41:48

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BRIAN KILLMADE. BRIAN, YOU'RE UP

41:54

ON ONE DAY. YOU SHOULD GET TO SLEEP IN. WELCOME TO

41:56

FOX Sunday SUNDAY.

41:58

This

41:58

is sleeping in. It's not a two thirty wake up

41:59

call. It's a little bit later. So for that, I'm

42:02

thankful. But what I tried to do with the

42:04

paper back is bring up what happened just

42:06

to run the block

42:08

from you. that monument at that monument that was

42:10

dedicated by Frederick Douglas

42:12

in ten years after the assassination

42:14

of Abraham

42:16

Lincoln He didn't love the design, but the people that paid for it did.

42:18

They were freed slaves. And they

42:20

paid for it. And he said, okay. I'll dedicate it

42:22

with you, Lisa's s Grant there.

42:25

And then two years ago, they're trying to take it down

42:27

into Massachusetts and took out a replica.

42:30

So in doing history, I didn't

42:32

realize we'd be

42:34

looking at the war on history. And that's what's happening on a

42:36

daily basis. So that's what I tried

42:38

to add to the paper back

42:40

this time. Well, book

42:42

all

42:42

about how they came together. They had very different ideas

42:44

about how to get there, but to end slavery. And

42:46

it reminds me of something that is being debated

42:48

here in Washington now, which is

42:50

very different views on how to get there, but agreement that the border is in real

42:53

trouble. So we have this headline now from

42:55

Fox News dot com, senators, TELUS,

42:58

Sunday CINEMO REVIVE TALKS ON POTENTIAL IMMIGRATION DEAL DURING

43:01

A LAMED DUCS. BRIAN, THE

43:03

BORDER IS A MASKS. ANY HOPE

43:05

IN YOUR MIND THAT THEY'RE ON

43:08

BOTH SIDES TO ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING DONE.

43:10

I MEAN WHEN YOU CAN'T GET

43:12

THE PRESIDENT TO EVEN GO THERE WHEN

43:14

ASKED BY PETER DUSI Why aren't

43:17

you going to the border, being that you go to a border state? Is that more important things

43:19

to do? Doesn't that really say

43:21

it all? Because there is no interest

43:23

in securing the

43:26

border there before this this gives game over before it starts. I

43:28

salute tillerson sentiment for saying let's get

43:30

something done, but to say that we're gonna let

43:32

dreamer stay

43:34

that's pretty much a given. Most people know if you come here at

43:36

three and four, but Democrats Republicans are

43:38

eventually gonna get to allowing them to stay.

43:40

But you know what's happened over the last

43:42

year and a half, two years, five million people brought dreamers

43:45

with them. So now a story

43:47

that was somewhat contained when

43:49

President Obama decided to through

43:51

an executive order, tell dreamers they can

43:54

stay. Now all of a Sunday, it's more

43:56

complicated because you double the number that are

43:58

in this country. And does anybody think this administration

44:00

serious about sealing the border? Does

44:02

anyone understand that on

44:04

December twelfth, Title

44:07

forty two disappears, which means they expect

44:09

instead of seven thousand, which is untenable

44:11

to go up to fifteen

44:14

to

44:14

eighteen thousand. We're already seeing a

44:16

surge. We had three border guards

44:19

commit suicide last month. fourteen

44:22

this year. We had another one killed on

44:24

Wednesday in pursuit of another legal

44:26

immigrant coming year until we get

44:28

serious about stopping the having

44:30

security. which you know this, Shannon. You you work there every day.

44:32

Senator Schumer used to talk about having

44:34

border security. Used to have senator,

44:36

Rajil Biden, talk about border security.

44:39

They have suddenly changed and they think it's a great idea

44:41

to let every country come and

44:44

stay for free. Well,

44:46

excuse me, We'll give them a nice

44:48

welcome package, some cash, some belongings, and we also give them a bus

44:50

ride wherever they wanna go. It's insane.

44:52

No country does this. WELL,

44:56

AND THE DIFFICULT REALITY TOO IS THAT WE'VE TRACKED THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE

44:58

WHO ARE TRYING TO COME HERE WHO HAVE ALSO

45:01

DIED. HUNDREDS OF THEM around

45:03

the border or trying to get through these border crossings. So there

45:05

are people impacted on all sides of

45:08

this, and whether Washington gets anything done or not,

45:10

I'm not gonna hold my breath. I we also

45:12

have you here to talk because you're an expert on

45:14

all things soccer. The World

45:16

Cup has captured I'm

45:18

told half of the world's population

45:20

is watching these games when they're on.

45:22

So we are down to the

45:24

finals getting into next week. We'll talk about that. But

45:26

in the meantime, Reporter Grant Wall,

45:28

who is much beloved and well known

45:30

as a reporter within the soccer community. American

45:33

passed away there very

45:35

suddenly I to his podcast where he was talking about Thursday

45:37

that he'd been sick. He had this terrible cough. A lot of

45:39

people have this cough. And now he's

45:42

gone. What more do we know about him in

45:44

this situation? Number

45:46

one, he's in

45:47

great shape. And number two, he's

45:49

very well respected. One of his big

45:51

stories was a teenager named LeBron James. He put

45:53

him on the cover and said the

45:55

next coming. He was a hundred percent right. That was really

45:57

well done. An investigative piece that he did in a

45:59

book that he put out. The Beckham experiment when

46:02

David Beckham came here. The impact he had on

46:04

soccer in this country that I know that your

46:06

husband I know was very interested in.

46:08

But Grant Wall, and it's in the prime minister's

46:10

life in great shape, the premier

46:12

reporter, to die like

46:14

this. His brother, remember just something to think about. I'm

46:16

not saying anything diabolical

46:18

happened, but he was delayed for about an hour

46:20

because he wanted to

46:22

come in with a patch that's had a salute to the the

46:24

pride flag. His brother's gang and

46:26

was his salute to his brother and they said

46:28

all this stuff has to

46:30

be banned. Sunday everybody that

46:32

wears each of your team is gonna be fine. They're gonna be

46:34

sanctioned. They may even get a yellow

46:36

card per team. So he stood up for that.

46:38

His brother thinks he was killed. AND HE CAME OUT AND SAYS

46:40

THERE'S NO WAY MY BROTHER WAS SICK. WE GOT TO

46:42

INVESTIGATE THIS. THERE WILL BE AN AUTOPSY,

46:44

BUT NOTHING BUT TRAGITY

46:46

AND SADNESS as he has his wife has found out and the his

46:48

body's coming home that there that

46:50

her husband has passed away. No one

46:52

could quite get their head around

46:56

it. Yeah. I mean, like I said, in his podcast,

46:58

he talked about how his body had been.

47:00

He said betraying him or kind of giving

47:02

him signals that he was running too

47:04

hard and that he'd been sick with this cough.

47:06

We will wait and see

47:08

now what answers his family get. It

47:11

gets as we wait for

47:13

an autopsy and other things. But in the meantime, just praying with them and their

47:15

grief over this. Brian, thank you very much. We will

47:17

see you bright and early tomorrow morning

47:19

on Fox and Friends. Thank

47:22

you, Shannon. Thanks

47:23

so much. Congratulations on the show. It's

47:25

awesome. Thank you. Up next to

47:27

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